waiting for at this point. thank you for joining us in this hour. we begin with breaking news out of south carolina. as chris just mentioned, a police officer has been arrested and charged with murder in the shooting death of an apparently unarmed civilian. at any moment now we're expecting a press conference of the family of the man who was killed. the site where we believe the family will be speaking. we'll go to that once that starts. the shooting happened on saturday morning in north charleston. a police officer stopped a mercedes sedan which you saw just there. the sedan reportedly had a brake light that was not working. the driver of that car was 50-year-old walter scott. you see him on the right in that family photo. we don't know the exact circumstances of what happened after the immediate police stop, but mr. scott ended up, at some point, running from the police officer that stopped him.

the police officer chased mr. scott on foot. that north charleston policeman fired eight shots as he pursued walter scott across a grassy lot in charleston. he was shot multiple times and died of his injuries. the officer's attorney told the local paper that the officer used his taser on mr. scott in this encounter, but that it had not subdued him. walter scott tried to overpower the officer and take his taser away from him. the attorney said the officer "felt threatened" and that he followed all proper procedures before firing his gun eight times at walter scott. that was the news as of yesterday in south carolina. he was as of yesterday. things changed late today when we got another side of the story. turns out there was a cell phone video taken by a bystander of what happened. the attorney of the family of walter scott got a copy of the video and gave it to the "new york times" and they published

it late today. i'm not going to play the video over and over again. it shows a man being killed. i will play it now because it is news worthy in this instance so you can see it for yourself. that cell phone video, again, was publiced just tonight by the "new york times." the paper got it from the lower for walter scott's family. i want to show you one more thing from the aftermath of the shooting depicted in that video. the officer that fired the shots reported that walter scott had taken his taser, or was trying to take his taser. after the officer shot and

handcuffed mr. scott, you can see the officer afterwards jog back to another spot a few feet away where the tape basically started. the officer a researches toward the ground, and he returns back to where mr. scott is lying down, shot, be the handcuffs on. the "new york times" says he returns to mr. scott and drops an object next to his body, and it may be the afore mentioned taser. the uncovering of this video appears to have radically changed the case. today the officer was booked in a murder charge. the officer is michael slager. he has been on the force for five years. he was charged at the north charleston police station where he works. he have seen a string of police involved shootings recently. and many of those casings, the

officers have not been charged and that is part of why those cases have become such high pro file things. that was case in ferguson, missouri with the killing of michael brown. that was the case in staten island, new york. the police officers were not charged. in the past few months, we have also seen cases where police officers using force have criminally charged for that use of force. in february it was a colorado police officer. he chased a man dan. we are going now to the live press conference being held by the family of walter scott in south carolina. >> we have the family attorney. we have the family of mr. scott with us. these are his parents right here.

his brother, his children, all of his family here to support tonight. and we're just here to say we have seen all of the developments that happened. and as we watch the news, where the mayor announced that the officer would be charged with murder, everyone in the home just started crying and hugging. it brought a short sense of relief and joy that the distance that we have to travel to try to get justice was beginning. and that for the first time in a long time, an officer was going to be charged when something like this happened. we can't bring mr. scott back. but something like this today can have a bigger presence than just what happened here with mr. scott. what happened today doesn't happen all of the time. what if there was no video? what if there was no witness or hero, as i call them, to come forward.

then this would not have happened. the initial reports stated something totally different. the officer said that mr. scott attacked him. pulled his taser and tried to use it on him. there was a witness that came forward with the video and in the initial reports they were wrong. and that doesn't happen all of the time across this country. it doesn't happen if you're african-american, it doesn't happen if you're caucasian. we're going to have a representative from the family speak. his brother. >> i'm anthony scott. and from the beginning, when it happened the first day, all we wanted was the truth. and i think through the process we received the truth.

we can't get my brother back and my family is in deep mourning for that. but through the process of justice being served -- and i don't think that all police officers are bad cops. but there are some bad ones out there. and i don't want to see anyone get shot down the way that my brother got shot down the way my brother got shot down. we have all seen the video. if there wasn't a video would we know the truth? or would we have just gone with what was reported earlier? but we know the truth now. and i ask that everyone continue to pray for my family, that we get through this because we do need prayer. because prayer changes things. it changes things, and justice will be served.

>> first i just want to thank everybody for coming out. right now, what i want to request of you and everyone watching is that you keep this family in your prayers. what is done in the dark typically comes to the light. and this is an example of what can happen when people are willing to step up and do the right thing for the right reasons. and it all goes back to this videotape. it has been pointed out time and time again and sometimes as i stand here today, i stand here and think where would we be without that video. and fortunately for the family,

fortunately for the investigating agency, and fortunately for the solicitor's office, we don't have to ask that question any more. so with that said, again, keep the family in your thoughts and prayers. and we will continue to work and make sure that justice is served and if possible, prevent this from happening to somebody else, because things like this do not have to happen and they should not happen. thank you very much. >> sir, what was your name? >> sorry, may name is justin bramberg, i am also the state representative for house district 90 --

>> he is an attorney as he said representing the family of walter scott who was killed in north charleston. they heard from another attorney of the family and from walter scott's brother. the story here is a walter scott was shot multiple times by a north charleston police officer during an altercation that began with a traffic stop for an apparently burned out taillight. the initial story from the officer that explained the fatal shooting was that there was an altercation involving the officer's taser. that narrative changed somewhat after the after a bystander to that student shot a video and turned it over to the video. they turned that video over to the new york times. they posted that video to the

new york times tonight. we have a little type play if you tonight. the mayor explained what happened, and in terms of the turning over of this video and the decision made to bring charges against this police officer. >> we do not look at the responsibility we have lightly. we take the role that when do wrong, we do wrong. the lesson that we take out of this and hopefully the general public takes out of it, is that when an incident occurs, give us the appropriate time to investigate. find out exactly what happened. and we will act accordingly. >> the mayor of north charleston explaining that the officer in this case made a bad decision.

there have been a number of high profile police shootings of civilians in recent months. it has happened a few times, in the last few months, and in february there was a colorado springs police officer that was charged in the same week. charged again in february. in january, too, albuquerque police officers, but it is rare when he finds himself a criminal defendant after something like this. i want to bring in andrew napp, thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> what it seems like from here, is that the publication of this video changed the trajectory of the investigation, and maybe even the speed of action around this case. is that fair to say? how do you see this as having unfolded in the last few days?

>> absolutely once the video came out today, and once we knew of it, the authorities knew of it last night, i think things moved fairly quickly. and like the family said, like many city officials said without the video, there was no telling what could have happens. there was a witness there that happened to be filming it. that video really resulted in the arrest of this officer today. >> what do we know, what can you tell us about how the video arose? obviously this incident happened on saturday morning. you can tell from the person remarking to themselves as they're shooting the video that they know exactly what it is they're seeing. they recognize the gravity of what they caught on video.

>> i note the person that shot it was a young resident of that area, and he brought the video to the family and then the family turned it over to us. but i think there was some hesitation or a apprehension of the person who shot it. the state law enforcement twine, it is not the police department itself, the force on which this officer served. but there is some hesitation there by this resident. but he brought it to the family, and i don't know what the time line was, but i know it was in the authorities hands, at least by last night.

so things moved fairly quickly. >> i now you have reported previously on relationships between this police department and community. is this a high pressure relationship, or an anxiety ridden relationship between police that particular community and local folks? >> it really depends on who you ask. a lot of the residents of mostly black and poorer communities in the city will say that there are some strained relations as far as their relationship with the police department. the city officials in the past few years have tried to address that. by opening a line of communication with community leaders. activists, and those people, those leaders say that the communication with the police

commanders have gotten better. but at the same time, the rank and file members of the police department still, there are still trained rips there with members of the community. i don't recall any incident like this in my memory, but there have been other controversial shootings in the past. and it has been an ongoing thing for the department. it has been something they have been trying to address. and i think this shooting tonight, over the weekend, was a combination of that. >> andrew, thank you for helping us understand the context there. i appreciate you being here. joy reid i should tell you is not only here, but she has been in contact with represents from walter scott's family. thank you for being here, i appreciate that. remarkable press conference by the family.

they're attorneys and direct relatives of the man who was killed, what have you heard in terms of the family and their concerns and what is happening here. >> the initial concerns were that for four days, the officer's story in their mind was a fabrication. the initial story by the officer was that walter scott posed a threat to him, attempted to take his taser and was violent toward the officer. and that was essentially allowed to stand as the story. that was the story his then attorney also told. the officers attorney told who is not representing him, we understand, now. the family felt that over the course of that time, that story was just bought with without question. then you had this person come forward, we don't know yet who this person is, but they filmed so much of this encounter, later in the tape if you keep going, the second officer comes up, and there is an interact with the other officer. what did the other officer see, what did they report what happened.

there is a question of whether or not the officer in question dropped or put something down near the bodies. there is a lot of questions that this videotape begins to answer. >> in terms of the rebutting of the case that stood for four days, with the officers attorneys saying the officers actions were warranted because he felt threatened, has there been any rebuttal to that officers perspective to this videotape. >> there wasn't any other independent evidence, but what is interesting, when i saw the tape there what i thought about was the question oaf a fleeing felony rule. old laws that used to be on the books -- >> whether or not they posed a threat. so i called kendall, who we both know was an attorney for the southern district of florida, so ask even if there was no videotape whether it would be problematic for a police officer to shoot someone who was clearly

running away. he said that as a constitutional matter, and i looked up the case, tennessee versus garner, that the only circumstance under which a flees suspect can be shot, is if that person clearly posed a violent threat. meaning they were accused of a violent felony. in the case of mr. scott, this was a traffic violation. he has something no more serious than failure to pay child support. there was not obvious about him that made him an obvious danger to the officer. and then he says he attempted to attack me. there is a lot about the story that you have to ask whether a suspect like this person posed enough of a threat, clearly running away, i think that is the question that the videotape brings up. >> that gets you to the legal question. then there is the narrative and having that change what will

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he lead a 24 day march to the sea, and when he got to the sea, he defiantly made salt. through freaking out the british empire. and indians everywhere used this as a starting gun, but also to disobey british rule in that first month, what started as gandhi and 80 other marchers ended up with 80,000 people being arrested. police attacking people, the movement for indian independence being dramatized to the world,

and for the british public back at home that meant police, thousands of miles away were beaten for boiling seawater to get salt. you can't say they weren't warned. check this out. before he started the salt march, he wrote to the british ruler of india and said he didn't really want to do this thing, but he felt like held might have to. dear friend, before embarking on the risk i have dreaded to take all of these years, i would again approach you to find a way out in this letter he makes his case for what is wrong with british rule in india. he said the conviction is going deeper and deeper in me. many thing nonviolence is not an active force. i am showing it can be an intensely active force.

it is my inattention to send that force against british rule. if you cannot see your way to deal with these evils, on the 11th day of this month i will and so the viceroy was warned. and he led millions, it was not a immediate british climb down, but the march against it lead thely to a new nation and the british being overthrown and they were warned. and the principal of warning your adversary on time, telling your adversary who you are, what you plan to do, why you plan to do it.

when you will be there, this radical openness, that was part of his theory about how to win without using any force other than moral force. a generation after he did that, the warning went up again, but here. this from the jfk library. the letter was basically a friendly open heads up to jfk "my dear mr. president, we expect you will be interested in our freedom ride in 1961. it is designed to forward the services in the south.

and they were. they gave this detailed itinerary of where they would be every day. they gave a full explanation, and a complete list of names and biographies of every person who would be participating. saved them the trouble of investigating these folks. here we are. here is what you need. and you see a name you might recognize. john lewis. then the student body president of the american baptist theological seminary. he was a 21-year-old, a veteran protester that had been arrested five times in various protests. that let them know in advance of the freedom rights went to john f. kennedy, robert f kennedy, j. edgar hoover, to the president of greyhound and trailways bus

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when congressman john lewis, andrew aiden did a book about john louis, it went on the best seller's list for 47 straight weeks. absolutely incredible. it is a graphic novel. the first done by a member of congress. it was a juggernaut. now part two is out. book two.

there is john lewis at a crystal hamburger stand in nashville tennessee. the restaurant staff closed the restaurant, locked hill and the other protestors in in the dark. turned on the fumigating something they use for pesticides trying to kill them in that building. there is john lewis and the other students politely standing in line at the whites only movie theater. asking for a ticket, being sent to the back of the line, being told no, being beaten by police. being arrested for that protest. the improvement debated whether the violence was getting so dangerous, particularly the violence from police officers that maybe the moral thing to do was to protect people from that violence by stopping their demonstration, the marches, and trying to find another way. there is john lewis subbornly

saying no, we're going to march no matter what. when he game a freedom writer, he was beaten very badly. it was sheer happenstance that he was not there when the bus, the freedom riders bus he was on was fire bombed and ambushed in alabama. john lewis was a devotee of gandhi and the principals of nonviolence. was he not there on that bus when it got fire bombed because he was interviewing for a fellow ship to follow in gandhi's footsteps. he got it but he didn't go. so many of them were hurt so badly john lewis was one of those staying no. they had to go on. and he got back on himself.

he went on to birmingham when where they were dragged off to jail, driven into klan country. they went to montgomery where they were beaten by a mob. a mob that beat up the press. a mob that beat up a man sent from bobby kennedy's office in washington to try to make peace with local authorities in montgomery. they went to jackson, mississippi where they were beaten and vailed and sent to the state penitentiary. john lewis did not take that fellowship and go to india. he stayed in the south. he was refusing to stop being nonviolent. he became ahead of the student nonviolent coordinating committee, at age 23, he was the man who spoke just before martin

luther king gave his "i have a dream" speech. he was the youngest speaker that day. he was beaten and arrested atmosphere frequently and recently than anyone else who spoke that day. he worried everyone the most that day. he writes now in the new book about the frantic up to the last second appeals to johnson lose for that speech to please tone it down. and he did tone it down a little. >> robert john lewis.

joining us now for "the interview" is congressman john lewis, and nate powell, who helped do this book. thank you, gentleman, this is amazing. you're doing a trilogy. collectively, what did you learn when part one was so successful? what did you learn about telling this history and how much people knew about it and what they can still learn from it? >> so many people didn't know

the history, and we felt we had an obligation to tell the story, the whole story, the complete story. from the point of children, young children, college students, and adults. they wanted to know. >> were you surprised by this? nate you had been in the graphic novel community, andrew you knew the subject matter, were you surprised it was taken up, in particular by so many schools. book one and book two is being taught nationwide? >> i think when we look at the kids and how much we want to know, they say what happened, what happened after that? they want to know about the tactics, a reporter called us and said he gave a book to his 9-year-old son and his son red it and he put on his sunday suit

and started marching around his house demanding equality for everyone. >> congressman, one of the things i didn't understand before reading this is why they needed to talk you out of some of your more incendiary rhetoric. seeing you as a congressman, learning about you, i didn't understand why you would ever have to be talked out of something like that. i feel like reading this book, i understand more about the coexistence of nonviolence and anger inside of you. >> people said you need to wait, you're going too fast. you cannot use said words, but i want today insist that question need to do it here and now. the urgency that people could not wait. they could not be patient. with the philosophy and the

discipline and unbalance. >> did you feel frustrated when the other civil rights leaders said no, we have a problem with your speech, your tone will hurt our political efforts? in the book it is clear that you're surprised, taken aback that you're controversial at the moment. were you resentful? >> no, but on occasion i took one or two of the laters older than 23. and i said this is our speech. and we prepared for the people that we're working with, the people that we represent in the heart of the deep south in rural alabama. we understand the suffering, the pain, the hurt, and the disappointment. >> nate, i want to ask you about how much there is really graphic, it's not gory, but a graphic depiction of violence here. did you make a deliberate

decision about showing so much of the violence that he was subjected to? >> a very conscious focus that all of us as a team determined early on was in congressman lewis's words, we simply have to make it plain, we have to tell the whole story, and as opposition to the movement intensifies, the natural consequence of the story telling is that graphic violence and verbal violence are made more plane. so as it is received by readers, by schools, by libraries, that is the kind of thing that cannot be swept under the rug. especially in this time and place, allowing people to connect as victims and perpetrators and violence within the book is very powerful. >> and you don't see it very often. we have all db we're all steeps in the iconography of the movement very little of it was

about what it meant to be a perpetrator of violence. i wonder if because it has been adopted so aggress i havely and enthusiastically, there is one scene in the book that is not central to the narrative, there is not a discussion about it, but in montgomery, the mob of people attacking you, attacking the protestors there, and there is women holding babies, screaming racial epithets at people, and one woman who very graphically tells her young son to physically attack a man on the ground. she has maybe a 6 or 7-year-old son. cheering on her son literally to get blood on his hands. where did that story come from? >> that story was in the congressman's recollection and from other places it is cited. for us. think about that kid, he was

just a few years older than president obama bright now. i mean that is a real person that has to live with that. when you confront these stories, we're confronting not just things from the past, but things that people are living with today. we can't hide any of that. we have to have a true conversation about where we are going. >> are you looking forward to finishing this trilogy? >> yes, but it will take a little time, but we will work together and we're going to finish it. >> congressman john lewis, great job, guys. you're taking the world by this stuff, well done, great to see you. >> thank you, good to see you.

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ethan hawke and uma thurman. >> in the not too distant future, our dna will determine everything about us. a minute drop of blood. saliva, or a single hair determines where you can work, who you should mary. what you're capable of achieving. >> the movie came out in october of 1997, did terribly. 16 years later in october of 2013, it made an unusual comeback. or at least the wikipedia page

had an unusual comeback. >> in the movie "gattica," -- >> the weird thing about that line from senator paul's speech today, where he says dna plays a primary role in determining your social class is that line appears almost verbatim in the wikipedia page. hey, that's what rand paul said. that was october 28th, 2013. we were reporting on a rand paul speech in virginia that day and discovered he had ripped his speech off from wikipedia. he just copied the wikipedia page word for word and that made up a big chunk of his speech. we were first to report that that night. then it sort of blew up in part

because it turns out rand paul did this thing all the time. a reporter at buzzfeed reported out that rand paul plagiarized sections of a different movie on immigration reform. that was for the movie "stand and deliver." i don't know what you liked that movie, but he liked that wikipedia page, because he copied and pasted that more than once. the wikipedia entry for "stand and deliver" says, in the area of east los angeles in 1992, a new teacher at garfield high school, that's wikipedia. here's rand paul. >> in the area of east l.a., in 1982, in an environment that values a quick fix on education

over learning, he was a new math teacher at garfield high school. >> rand paul was just reading wikipedia and passing it off as his own words. a few days after that, one time he ripped off the associated press in his state of the union response in 2013. and then again in a speech at howard university in 2013, he ripped off a passage from the conservative group called focus on the family. also, there was him plagiarizing in an op-ed. pages and pages of his book were just copy and pasted. he did a lot. and all these stories started to break. and senator rand paul at first refused to answer any questions about them. look, rand paul mum after plagiarism allegation. but then he decided to talk about it. in his explanation where he had found up to be ripping people

off and copying portions of people's work and presenting it as his own, his explanation was that it was very unfair for people to be point thing out. people were only reporting this story because they hate him. >> i take it as an insult and will not lie down and say people can call me dishonest or misleading. like i say, if duelling were legal in kentucky, if they keep it up, it would be a duel challenge. but i can't do that, because i can't hold office in kentucky. >> after saying he wished to duel with people, senator paul then sat with an interview where the interviewer described him as furious. he said, i feel like if i can just go to detention after school everything would be okay. but do i have to be in detention for the rest of my career? "the new york times" described

him as clearly shaken. >> then he sent out a sarcastic page of footnotes of things he talked about. when explaining why he plagiarized so many times, he blamed it on the stress of his heavy workload. things are done quickly and in a hurry and sometimes i get things sent to me while i'm doing a speech. he said, we write something every week for "the washington times" and i'm riding around in a car in between things trying to figure out if i can approve it. we probably take on more than we should be doing. being a junior senator probably is hard. plus a once a week column. it's probably tough. if it is tough enough for you

that you cannot handle that kind of a workload without plagiarizing and threatening to duel with people who report on you for doing that and it makes you threaten to quit politics forever and go home and back to being an eye doctor, maybe being a junior senator is not for you. today, senator rand paul announced he would like to be president. >> i have a message! a message that is loud and clear and does not mince words. we have come to take our country back. [ applause ] today, i announce, with god's help, with the help of liberty lovers everywhere, that i am putting myself forward as a candidate for president of the united states of america. >> in the span of a year and a half, rand paul went from being a junior senator was too much

work for him to declaring he's ready to be president of the united states. which is technically a bigger job than the one he has now. "first look" is up next. good morning. right now on "first look," dramatic cell phone video captures a police officer shooting and killing an unarmed man. >> 233 dispatch shots fired. subject is down. he's got my taser. >> but that cop's version of the incident does not tell the whole story captured on video. next to the terror group isis using new english language radio bulletins to spread their message. then, the huskies make history with a big three-peat. and severe weather ahead, including possible tornadoes, that and much more as "first look" starts right now. good morning, and thanks for joining us today. i'm betty nguyen. all right, so reaction is pouring in following the shooting death of an apparently unarmed and african american man