south carolina and top city officials have met with the family of walter scott, the man killed by a police officer as scott was running away. it was all captured on video by an eyewitness. the officer involved 33-year-old michael slager is now charged with murder. still, a rally held by black lives matter campaign is being held right now. this afternoon also city officials are set to hold a news conference. we certainly want to warn you the video which we're about to show you is disturbing. [ gunfire ] >> slager was arrested yesterday shortly after the "new york times" released that video of the shooting captured by the bystander. this happened again saturday morning. now rk scott a coast guard veteran and father of four was initially pulled over for a broken taillight on his mercedes benz. according to "new york times" moments before the shooting wires from a stun gun appear to

be extending from scott's body as the two men tussle and scott turns to run. the times also reports something, and it is not clear whether it is the stun gun is being tossed or knocked to the ground. now, as scott runs the officer opens fire eight times. slager told dispatchers that scott tried to take his taser. >> 2-23 shots fired. subject is down. he grabbed my taser. >> after he made the call to dispatch, slager is seen in the video placing scott in handcuffs before returning to the spot where they initially allegedly struggled. picking up something off the ground then dropping that object near scott's body. appearing on "today" this morning scott's family said they believe the shooting may have been swept under the rug were it not for this video.

>> this young man or whoever it was had the video i was telling some of my friends the other day that god has my back because when i saw it my heart was broken broken, the way i saw it on film, the way he was shooting the gun, it looked like he was trying to kill a deer or something running through the woods. >> joining me now from charleston, glenn smith, an editor with the post and courier newspapers. glen, let's talk about the role the state law enforcement agency played in expediting this to where we are now which is charges against that officer. >> well the state law enforcement agency is kind of like south carolina's version of the fbi. they come in typically whenever there's a police 46 involved shooting to avoid any conflict of interest. they were on the ground saturday morning, began the investigation not sure what the status of that investigation was up until about tuesday when we hear the video

first from the bystander came into their hands. obviously that sped things up rather quickly and led to the officer's arrest yesterday afternoon. >> per the post and courier some of the things that we've learned about officer slager's background include complaints filed against him regarding allegations of overuse of force. what can you tell me about his police history there? >> there was a complaint that came in a couple years ago involving tasing of a man at a home during a burglary call. an excessive force complaint was filed against him. it was investigated by the department and found to be unfounded, so no action was taken against him at the time. >> and regarding the investigation and where it stands right now, as i mention you have city leaders who have just met with the family. we have this news conference coming up as well. even with this video, this unedited video we should point

out which was originally i think, turned over to the family and then they took it to newspapers including the "new york times" and i believe your paper. what happens now with this investigation? >> our paper, yes. >> your paper, yes. what happens now with this investigation? >> well the investigation i imagine will continue while he's in jail. he'll probably be in jail for at least a few weeks until a bond hearing can be held. i imagine witnesses are still being interviewed. they have a lab probably be doing ballistic tests trying to get to the bottom of the autopsy findings, see what matches up. it will probably be continuing in the background for quite a while. >> and the reaction from the community as i mentioned there's a rally, a small rally, pretty much spearheaded by the campaign black lives matter. this is a very different situation than we've seen in other places where charges had had not been filed or there was a long period of time before a grand jury was even convened.

here we're seeing in a matter of days the officer charged. what's been the reaction in the community there? >> i think the community was shocked by the video. certainly the family appeared stunned. the city leaders seem shaken. they quickly took to a press conference yesterday afternoon and said that they do not condone this sort of action. they condemned it and said they feel for the victim's family. i think the community is shocked, like i say, but sort of the general theme seems to be let cool heads prevail. let's not let this turn into ferguson or some other place like that. there have been some rallies in the past few months sort of a sol dare di solidarity rally. and the message throughout has been let's keep this peaceful get to the bottom of things and let the justice system handle it. >> thank you very much for your live report from the scene there.

joining me now is jodi armor, a law professor at the university of southern california. along with daily beast contributor justin glaw who wrote about this. thank you for your time. >> good to be with you. >> jody let me start with you here. your legal background and also just your analysis of the fact that here yes, we do have a video. there was also video in the eric garner case and people have talked about in the past you know body cameras or how even cell phone video can even the playing field when we're trying to sort out the truth, but you've certainly been one of the first to raise the point that just because there's video does not mean the justice that the family is seeking here will be given. >> yes. as you point out the eric garner case involved ocular proof. we had video evidence that the world could see, and there wasn't an indictment returned. before him there was the rodney king case that involved another video of rodney king being beaten over a long period of time. and again the seemy valley jury

returned a not guilty verdict, acquitted all those officers. so just because you have a video doesn't mean you have a conviction. >> and as you've also pointed out you've pointed to the supreme court ruling on deadly force, a different case involving a 15-year-old. and you've referenced this when people have tried to understand this case and when an officer is able to shoot at someone who is running. >> yeah. the 1985 tennessee versus garner case held the supreme court held that it's unconstitutionally -- it's constitutionally unreasonable to shoot an unarmed and nondangerous fleeing felon. a number of states have statutes that allowed police officers to use whatever force necessary to apprehend someone who was fleeing, who was a felon. and the supreme court said no that violates the fourth amendment, protection against unreasonable seizures. when you use deadly force to apprehend, that's a seizure and it's unconstitutional.

>> let me bring in justin. justin, you wrote this article. it says the headline walter scott's killing is every black nightmare about white cops. i just want to point out that the newspaper, the post courier when looking at the department history says they've got 433 sworn officers they fought off accusations in the past according to "the post and courier" and say predominantly african-american skmunts. the newspaper reports that in september 18% of the officers were black while the city's population 45% as in the case with ferguson a history of african-americans in the community and minorities and in many kaszs poor people feeling that they were targeted unnecessarily by police officers. >> yeah. i wasn't aware of those statistics, but it doesn't really, i guess, come as a surprise considering what we've learned, i guess, from ferguson.

i was interested in what jody had to say about the unconstitutionality about shooting fleeing felons in the back. and if that's the case i would suggest people take a look at some of the police-involved shootings that happened in chicago last year because quite a few of those were people who were supposedly running away from police and ended up being shot in the back. so, i mean this is a situation where as difficult as it is for all of us to watch that video and as disturbing as it is i don't think this is anything necessarily really new or different. >> well, the new aspect of it is is we see it. and as you well know justin and professor you can get in on this as well i think to justin's point we've heard many stories. i've reported in chicago for years. as a reporter on the street there is a he said-he said often involving a minority person against the police. and the headline is often the background of that individual suspect and not digging into deeper questions about what happened there. but now you have this video

which is not necessarily a smoking gun. with all of that said i just want to play what just came in. new york city mayor bill de blasio, he's at the national action network conference where part of the conversation is focusing in on policing in minority neighborhoods. let me play a little bit about what he said. he's reacting to the shooting. >> we're all feeling some pain today i would imagine. i certainly am. we watched a video yesterday. once again we are watching a video. we watched a video that is so disturbing and so painful you can't watch that as a human being and not feel pain. it makes no sense according to what our core notions of humanity and decency and justice are. >> justin with that said the last time the mayor gave a similar remark about his son and telling the public that he talked to his son about being a young black male and the relationship with police and what he needed to do he got

backlash here and many said he was against the police department. and he'd riled up people against the police department. are you concerned this happens again? >> yeah. actually, i was a little bit concerned -- the shootings in south carolina. and the chief of s.l.e.d. basically said something that what a lot of law enforcement advocates will say in these situations which is just that you know people don't resist. and if they just complied, then these things won't happen. and i think that's just kind of a way to get around addressing the larger issues of when and why these shootings are occurring. and also addressing the issue of the fact that we don't really have any reporting requirements for this type of stuff. so we don't even really know to the extent these incidents are happening and of that information we can't address it.

>> with the north charleston mayor said yesterday regarding the charges against the officer. let's play that. >> we can't get my brother back. and my family's in deep mourning for that. but through the process of justice has been served. and i don't think that all police officers are bad cops but there are some bad ones. anyone gets shot the way my brother got shot down we've all seen the video. if there wasn't a video, would it have been -- would we know the truth? or would we have just gone with what was reported earlier? but we do know the truth now. >> when you're wrong, you're wrong. and if you make a bad decision don't care if you were behind the shield or just a citizen on the street you have to live by

that decision. and so we as a city want the family to know that our hearts and our thoughts are with them. our prayers are with them. anything that we can do for them we are here to do. >> so professor armour, you heard the mayor say when you're wrong you're wrong. but let's talk about this from a legal standpoint. will this case heavily focus in on what you and i were talking about along with justin and the use of force when someone is fleeing? >> oh, absolutely. and here we have videotaped evidence that there was some kind of at least arguably a constitutional violation. and so the mayor is saying look the moral credibility and moral authority of the criminal law, the criminal justice system's on the line. and when the criminal law loses its credibility, you have things like happened in los angeles in '92, the urban uprising. so it's important that the authorities stand behind this and say that we're going to

stick to the rule of law in cases like this. >> thank you both gentlemen for joining us. we greatly appreciate it. we'll continue to follow the latest developments throughout the hour and give you as much new information as we possibly can. thank you so much mpkts we're following more developing news out of afghanistan. u.s. officials tell nbc news an american soldier has been killed and two others injured after an afghan soldier opened fire on u.s. forces in islamabad in eastern afghanistan. jim miklaszewski joins us now. what do we know happened here and how is that afghan soldier able after so many changes had been made to ensure this wasn't happening, how was he able to carry out this act? >> as u.s. troops have drawn down and the u.s. prepares to withdraw from afghanistan, one of the concerns of u.s. military leadership one off sort of lone wolf who's going to carry out this kind of green-on-blue

attack they call it afghan soldiers attacking their american allies. that's what happened this morning in jalalabad in eastern afghanistan. an outlaw soldier who's supposed to be one of the friendly forces opened fire on those forces. the americans returned fire and killed this individual this one afghan soldier, instantly. the incident occurred in jalalabad in eastern afghanistan following a high level meeting between u.s. government and afghan government officials. in fact nbc news is told that ambassador donald yamomoto who is serving as a political adviser to the u.s. military there inside afghanistan was there at the scene initially. but his party had departed the scene and was well out of any threat or danger when the shooting occurred. now, there's no motive yet for the attack. no clear indication that this individual was tied to any kind

of militant group or the taliban. so that will take some time to investigate. but this is a clear sign that even as the war winds down and u.s. troops leave, thai still in harms way there on the ground in afghanistan, tamron. >> thank you for that. developing in boston day two of deliberations in the boston marathon bombing trial. a verdict could come at any time. this morning the judge answered two questions asked by the jury after their initial seven hours of deliberations yesterday. the first question had to do with the definition of conspiracy. the other with the definition of aiding and abetting. 17 of the 30 charges dzhokhar tsarnaev faces carry the death penalty. if he's found guilty of any of those, the same jury will move to the death penalty phase of the trial which could come as early as next week. we'll bring you the verdict from boston as soon as it happens. and today rand paul is in the first in the nation primary state of new hampshire this morning. he seemed to take issue with

"today" show host savannah guthrie over changing views but specifically over iran. >> you once offered to drastically -- >> before we go before we go before we go through a litany -- >> you want to increase 16%. i wonder if you've mellowed out. >> why don't we let me explain instead of talking over me. >> sure. >> we'll let him explain. coming up more of the interview and the very latest on his first full day in campaigning. plus, as we await others to announce their campaigns including hillary clinton, what bill clinton is saying about his role in any possible campaign coming. and developing now, dangerous storms are in the forecast from texas to pennsylvania with tornadoes expected. we'll get you caught up on the forecast affecting a number of states for the next two days and pretty severe weather and join the conversation online at newsnation, that's where the team hangs out. meet the world's newest energy superpower. surprised? in fact, america is now the world's number one

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welcome back now to 2016 presidential campaign and senator rand paul's appearance on "today" show this morning. savannah guthrie asked mr. paul whether he's changed position on some key policy issues. >> you once said iran was not a threat. now you say it is. you once proposed ending foreign aid to israel. you now support it at least for the time being. and you once offered to drastically cut -- wait wait. >> before we go through -- >> you drastically wanted to cut defense spending and now you want to increase it 16%. i wonder if you've mellowed out. >> why don't we let me explain before talking over me okay? >> sure. >> before we go through a litany of things you say i've changed on, why don't you ask me a question. >> okay. is iran still not a threat? >> no no no no no.

listen. you've editorialized, let me answer a question. you ask a question and you say, have your views change instead of editorializing and saying my views have changed. >> joining me live now roger simon, chief political columnist for politico also 2012 libertarian party candidate and president and former two-term republican governor of new mexico gary johnson. thank you so much for joining us gentlemen. governor let me start with you. savannah guthrie laid out things actually said by senator paul compared to other things that he said on documented interviews. he never addressed those differences. he referred to iran as not being a threat saying they could barely make their own gasoline. now we know where he stands with sanctions, for example. he also in a budget plan wanted to cut aid to israel later on saying that was not the case. are those not changes in policy? >> well clearly. and, you know rand paul is

engaged right now in trying to get the republican nomination so that involves having to pander if you will to the right. and these are issues that are really important to the right. republicans are all about a balanced budget, all about cutting spending but not when it comes to the military. you know it just doesn't fit. >> so do you believe that he is like so many others trying to have it both ways? in one respect he wants to have the libertarian slice of the pie but he knows to win that primary he must say different things even if it truly is a change in policy that he may not at least today be willing to admit? >> well, he's probably not the only one guilty of that when it comes to republicans trying to get the nomination. republicans that are trying to get the nomination for president really have to cater to the right. and so when it comes to libertarian ideas, you know the areas where he's crossed ways is marriage equality, woman's right

to choose building a fence across the border. i think that that's really crossways with libertarian ideas, milltarian intervention. let's top with the military interventions, let's balance the federal budget. that does mean cutting the military. there are many where he's crossways with military ideas, beliefs, but he is out there trying to get the nomination from the republican party and this is what that involves. >> so roger simon, let me bring you in. your thoughts here. there were very specific things that savannah laid out. and as she pointed out, his own comments things that are on record, he as we often see people accuse you of talking over them and not letting them finish, she then asked him to finish and he did not. >> you don't win battles with the press that way. you know running for president is unlike running for any other

office. he's a first-term senator. he's run once. he's never run for president. he's not used to the treatment he's going to get. and he's going to get what i think is a totally fair litany of questions by savannah guthrie, and he's going to have to answer them. if he's going to stop and fight with the press every time they bring up his record he will never get a chance to present his views to the american people. >> i get what you're saying. this is the first time around as far as running for president, but he watched hi father run three times. and while his father's not playing a major role as pointed out by "new york times" and others he was pretty much silent yesterday. he's seen the game play. >> he's seen the game played but don't forget his father was always treated as somewhat of an exotic candidate. he had these libertarian views. he presented them very clearly.

he in the debates there was no mistaking where he stood. but where he failed was no one could imagine him sitting in the oval office behind that desk. rand paul must not only lay out his positions but present an image that is presidential. you can imagine him making decisions that effect your life the life of your family the lives of everybody on this planet. and you don't present that image by getting into bickering with reporters. >> let me play just where he did clarify his position to aid to israel and iran. >> my opinion's not any different than netanyahu's opinion. when he came before a joint session of congress in 1996 he said, you know what eventually israel ought to also be independent of it and israel's defense may be stronger because then they wouldn't be forced to buy defense products from outside the country. >> do you still think iran is not a threat as you said in

2007? >> 2007 was a long time ago. and events do change over long periods of time. so we're talking about eight years ago. we're talking about a time when i wasn't running for office and i was helping someone else run for office. what i would say is there's always been a threat of iran gaining nuclear weapons and i think that's greater now than many years ago. >> governor are you worried that libertarian part of senator paul will disappear? >> well no. i'm not. i mean i'm heartened by the fact that there's attention being given to what it is to be a libertarian. and like i say i would just like to point out that when it comes to immigration, when it comes to marriage equality when it comes to drug policy balancing the federal budget a woman's right to choose these are libertarian positions that libertarians have had since the inception of the

libertarian party. i think they're most reflective of americans and their beliefs today. and right now senator paul is a social conservative. and conservative for republicans has come to mean social conservative not its roots which is limiting government freedom. freedom limiting government. >> thank you so much for your time. we're out of time. roger, greatly appreciate you joining us. love to talk with both of you very soon. appreciate it. coming up was there a mistake with the new maya angelou tribute stamp? it was chosen in her honor with a beautiful picture and a quote that's also very lovely. but is it her quote? the post office is standing behind their decision to keep the stamp the way it is. it is our "news nation" gut check. taxi. vo: after years of being treated

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time for our first read of the day. the white house is trying to minimize the number of democrats willing to break from the administration by backing legislation that would allow congress to reject the nuclear deal with iran. senators ted cruz and rand paul are all in but the gop presidential field will soon get a lot more crowded. the question is who's next and when. marco rubio is expected to kick off his campaign early next week. what about jeb bush, scott walker, chris christie? the same question being asked of course about former secretary of state hillary clinton. rumors are flying that she could make an announcement as well as perhaps even early as next week maybe this week. president obama veered off script at the easter prayer breakfast yesterday. what he said has a lot of people talking. so let's talk about it with nbc news senior political editor mark murray. so, mark let's look at your calendar, your magic i guess what is it crystal ball. let's talk to the people that you talked to behind the scenes and what have we come up with the calendar here? >> well what we know is that

marco rubio's going to be going on monday. it will make him the third republican presidential candidate to officially be in the race. and then after that it's anyone's guess. but i do think we are expecting a hillary clinton announcement within the next week or so. kind of the any day now is the guidance that i think the political community ends up having right now. but then after that tamron a lot of the governors you mentioned jeb bush scott walker, because they're governors and they could end up being in charge of a super pac, might not see announcements in the later in the spring if not early summer. >> plans to take a role as a backstage adviser. let's play what he said. >> okay. >> oh, we don't have what he said but i'll read it to you, i think it's important and hillary does too that she go out there and run like she's never done before and establish her connection with the vote skpers my role should primarily be as backstage adviser to her until we get much much closer to the

election. he also said that he's got nothing that makes him angry right now. so he doesn't now how effective he would be as a campaigner. >> well he's going to be just a fascinating piece in the entire hillary clinton puzzle of course in 2007 and 2008 he was sometimes a very big asset for her presidential campaign sometimes a liability. so tamron this will be a story we're going to be following throughout. also chelsea clinton might also have a role too. so a lot of different story lines there. >> all right. let's talk about also white house battling to stem the democratic defections on iran negotiations. we talked about chuck schumer yesterday and tim cain as well. what's the latest there? >> yeah. so here's the name of the game that there needs to be 67 senate votes to override any kind of veto coming from president obama on this. and of course that would have a sizable number of democrats who would make up part of that 67 or plus coalition. so the white house is trying to actually peel these people off. it's no surprise that president obama had an interview with the "new york times" tom friedman

an interview with npr, two outlets which a lot of democrats and democratic voters are probably listening to and president obama is trying to make his case to the democrats on please don't undermine me on a very big foreign policy goal and potential achievement i might have. >> thank you, mark. i can't let you go because we did talk about this and we teased it, president obama ad lib ing at the easter prayer breakfast. let's quickly play that. >> sure. >> on easter i do reflect on the fact that as a christian i am supposed to love. and i have to say that sometimes when i listen to less than loving expressions by christians, i get concerned. but that's topic for another day. >> reaction to that mark. >> yeah, tamron we really don't know what he's talking about. some people believe it had to do with the whole religious liberty

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of that. >> joining me live now chicago sun times bureau chief lynn sweet. lynn, great pleasure to see you. so part of the criticism many people in chicago believe that rahm emanuel appealed to the wealthier chicagoans and didn't focus on some of the issues for the middle class and poor. people in that city he says he's got this second chance what has he said he will do differently? >> well, i think one of the things he has to do differently and as you know tamron from working the streets in chicago, is that if he has policies he wants to do, he needs to get buy-in. we'll see how long he remains humbled. i think maybe 10 20 minutes might be it because he did win. and but here's what will be different, the campaign spawned an opposition that's not going to go away and he had governed mainly by fiat in the first four years. and i think his ability to just call the shots now is diminished with this.

first thing up he has enormous financial woes. the city has to contemplate perhaps finding more revenue. but during the campaign both chuy garcia the man he beat and rahm himself ended up ruling out property taxes. there's enormous pressure to get the financial house in order. >> lynn you know chicago politics pretty rough and tumble. do you believe it was a wakeup call for somebody who's been seeing both on the local level and national level as tough as nail sns. >> well he's tough. but i think the national press frankly didn't understand the amount of animosity rahm had developed within the city. you don't close 50 public schools, tamron, and not have some backlash. >> yep. >> you don't raise millions from the wealthiest people in the city and around the country and spend $30 million for a campaign and not expect this to be cast as the candidate of the billionaires. now, having said that his margin of victory came largely from the

lake front, white upper class. he had in some of those lake front wars 80% plus. but he did well in the african-american wards of all different economic strata. and one thing that is out there jesus garcia did create a big hispanic vote output. not big enough though to make a difference. >> all right. thank you very much lynn. pleasure having you on. see you soon. thanks, lynn. >> thank you. up next, it is our "news nation" gut check. have you see the new maya angelou tribute stamp? some people are talking about it wondering if it should be changed. plus history in the pool. three swimmers became the first african-american women to win the top three spots in a single ncaa championship event. one even broke a record. another is an olympic medal holder. up next the top two champions from stanford will just swim on in. let's get a pool. we're going to build a pool.

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time now for the news nation gut check. the u.s. post sal service dedicated a new mya angelo stamp yesterday that features this quote. a bird doesn't sing because it has an answer it sings because it has a song. but the quote may not be dr. angelou's. joan walsh anglin told "the washington post" she wrote the punctuation, exception the pronouns were changed. in defense, the postal service says maya angelou cited this quote frequently. but a spoerks person said had we known about this before hand we would have used one of dr. angelou's many other quotes. do you think the post office should reprint the forever maya angelou stamp? go to newsnation.msnbc.com.

turning now to what's becoming a dynasty in women athletics. >> uconn has done it again for the tenth time. they are the champions. >> so the university of connecticut women's basketball team continues to rewrite the record books, winning their third straight ncaa championship in a row and tenth overall. they beat notre dame in last night's game. it is the tenth championship for head coach geno auriemma i always mess up his last name, forgive me. that ties john wooden for most titles. and basketball is not the only sport where women are making history this year. three female african-american collegiate swimmers finished in the top three slots during the ncaa national swimming championship. now, it was the first time the winners' podium was comprised entirely of black women. 18-year-old freshman phenom

simone manuel and lea neil finished first and second in the freestyle swim. natalie hintz came in third. their feat even caught the attention of rowdy gaines who tweeted a photo of the three ladies on the podium with the word "history." lea and simone join us now. congratulations, ladies. thank you so much for joining us. >> hi. >> thank you for having us. >> absolutely. all beautiful smiles. you know we're so proud of you. we were so eager to talk to you because you have a special message to inspire young kids particularly kids of color, kids who live in minority neighborhoods who don't swim. let's talk about your story first. lea, how did you get into swimming? >> well i started swimming in the first grade just because my friends and classmates were taking lessons. so they along with their parents, suggested my mom enroll me in classes as well. i've been swimming ever since. >> so they enrolled you so that

you could learn to swim or they knew that i don't know this one might be a star. >> no i don't think they saw anything in me back when i was 6 years old. but i think it was just to learn how to swim and be water safe in addition to just having fun with my friends. >> and simone you are from texas, right? >> yes. >> sugar land of course. well, let me ask you. i know you've talked about the fact that a lot of kids particularly african-american kids are drawn to basketball or football or track as opposed to swimming. why do you believe that is still the case even now? >> i don't know. i just think that swimming is just an awkward sport. people don't think about putting their kids in the water, to be water safe. i think that if you put your kids in the water at an early age, then they might learn to

love the sport. so i think a big factor is getting parents to realize that it's important for your child to be safe and maybe they might grow a love for the sport. >> how did it feel to be on that podium ladies with natalie there as well? and having rowdy put up on social media for all to see that it was history. how did that feel lia? >> i think i could speak for all of us while we were on the podium, we didn't think about just how much of an impact we were making. we just went into the race wanting to swim the best as we could and as fast as we could and hopefully either go best times or break an american record. we accomplished that. in addition to doing our best we also just happened to place top three. so i think that was really cool. >> i love how you say you just happened to play top three. no you worked for that.

you worked hard for that for sure. well simone what's next for you? >> this summer i'll be focusing on world championships. that's the big meet this summer in russia. so that's the big goal. >> lia, what's next? >> i have world university games in south korea and world championships as well. >> okay. well, between your busy schedule and collecting all that hardware cullen jones, the olympian, taught me to swim. i'm getting better but let me know when you have free time because my backstroke is whack. but i can swim across the pool. that's very important. we know 70% of african-american children have low to zero swimming ability. it's important to get the message out. it doesn't hurt when we have wonderful, beautiful, successful ladies like you to show you can do anything. thank you, ladies. so proud of you. so happy for you. hey to natalie.

hope she's watching. congratulations. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> that does it for this swimming edition of "news nation." i'm tamron hall. it's not warm enough to swim yet. sooner or later. up next "andrea mitchell reports." american express for travel and entertainment worldwide. just show them this - the american express card. don't leave home without it! and someday, i may even use it on the moon. it's a marvelous thing! oh! haha! so you can replace plane tickets, traveler's cheques, a lost card. really? that worked?

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