reports tonight, hillary to announce po president this sunday. let's play "hardball." good evening. tonight "new york daily news" is reporting that hillary clinton will announce her candidates for this sunday, a similar report was running earlier in the day on a business website "business insider." also tonight the first look at the dashboard video showing what happened in that traffic stop that let to the police sheeting the walter scott. and msnbc's joy reid is in south carolina for us tonight. we want to start with beth. it looks like we're going to have a video put out by the clinton campaign on sunday, according to "daily news" and

"business insider" followed by a campaign tour. why do you think it's being done after all the suspension, buildup drama, that it ends up being a video, without any interviews, and a tour which would probably be in the fashion -- as the first lady did when she ran for senator and for the first time as president. >> well, msnbc and nbc are still working to confirm this news. we're seeing it bubble up in a couple places, but she did the same thing in 2007 they put out a video on saturday morning announcing she was going -- it was the famous video sitting on the couch in washington, saying i'm in it to win it. they only release the video, and there was a day of, you know, excitement, and apparently she was making lots of calls, but nobody saul her publicly under the next day. this is consistent with what she did last time.

>> let me go to joy right now. good to have you on the show tonight. and then, of course, the assumption she will s. controlled by a cinematic announcement, if this is all true, and it look like it is, according to our sources. >> first of all, it was going to become difficult to high this growing campaign with staff starting to coalesce in brooklyn where i live, and let's face it, where a lot of reporters live in the downtown brooklyn area. now that we know where that office is going to be, you see the activity is going to start to step up, and other announcements taking place. rand paul is out there. i'm going to miami on monday, because we'll have marco rubio, who is expected to announce his candidacy. i think the field is starting to get crowded. i think the suspension factor is starting to get limited.

it's becoming gratuitous that she's running/not running. she's got to go ahead and make her mark. as beth said, she does love the listens tour. -- which is a big news conference or big statement in the senate building or something -- we're used to the old days of kennedy. it looks like a purposeful, let me put it this way professional and controlled way to do this things. we're heard from everything, and our sourcing is saying this campaign will be rolled out in a controlled and in some way small fashion. they want to take a big global celebrity and bring her down to earth, to be somebody that voters can relate to a bit better than perhaps in the past. this is very consistent with that. another point is we have social media to do a lot of things that

didn't exist back in the past. you mentioned kennedy. social media can take care of ought manners of announcement. her video announcing that she's running. she can do a couple tweets. we've seen she's pretty adept at tweeting, and has tweeted in a lot 2349 past couple months. to get her out there in a message that she can control. like you say, she is going to have to talk to reports eventually but she doesn't are to did 2. >> how many millions can you reach just putting -- can you pretty much reach everybody? >> there are 1.3 billion active users on facebook. it's a very powerful tool, more powerful than any traditional media source. >> let's go back to some traditional stuff. joy, i want to talk about the

numbers right now. hillary clinton has had a very interpattern as a politics, not a first layy. her favorability numbers have been dropping, as they have done before. her highist favorable was after that kerfuffle with monica. then it dropped again when he ran and god involved in new york state politics as a senator. then she became secretary of state, it went swooping way up to the high to mid 60s but the minute she's come back into the public sphere, the political sphere, since leaving that office and with all the attacks on benghazi and all that stuff, her numbers are down in the 40s. people like you more as a public servant than as a politician. maybe that's the world we live in. >> no, absolutely. attacking the clintons is basically a profession among republicans.

of course also people have to consider not just the hillary clinton, let's face it, people respect her gravitas, her accomplishments, they respect her as an accomplished woman, but now you're asking yourself, do you want this person that you do respect to be the president? you start to measure her against the alternatives, against the republicans that are already in mind, then you get back to the 50/50 nature of american politics, where you'll have half the country, just under half say they want the republican. the big fight is for the last 5%. the question is, can hillary clinton get over the hump, get enough young voters,ing to as excited about the idea of a first woman as they did for a first black president. >> and thank you, joy. as we're getting reports tonight she will announce a sunday, we're also looking at a new quinnipiac poll that said rand paul is ahead of hillary clinton in swing states that really matter.

colorado, it's paul 44-41 over hillary clinton. in iowa he beats her 43-42. last week he beat her in pennsylvania, it's a regular person state. it doesn't have any -- what do you call the things on the side of the car, nothing interesting. it's just pennsylvania. she's down by a point there. back to you, beth. rand paul is the hot ticket. i think joy is right, this country is a 50/50 country. it gets very close to 50/50 for all the candidates, racing stripes. i was thinking of racing stripes. >> there you go. you're the pennsylvania guy, chris, so you can speak to pennsylvania and the racing stripes. i would agree totally with joy that it is a 50/50 country. it's not 50/50 on the electoral map. you tell me, democrats have won quite resoundingly. colorado has come over to be a

blue state as well. right now, as you say, rand paul is the hot ticket. i think that's why we're seeing him do well in some of this polling, but this polling really doesn't mean anything right now. what do you think will be her method of running? i mean, will they use the listening tour to sort of get back her vocabulary, her sense of the rhythm of the daily politics? will that be a way to segue back into taking tough interviews? even local reporters can be tough in their questioning. >> absolutely. i think what you're going to see is the smallness, this roll-out they're going to try to do in this initial campaign stage. it's going to be small, meeting with voters in their homes and small settings. don't ask me how she's going to pull that out of with a couple dozens reporters and camera crews and huge security details. it's a big concern for those working on the campaign, but they want to keep her from looking lie a hottie celebrity who doesn't neat voters, who

with sort of waltz in. that's sort of how they started in the 2008 campaign. she flamed out and lost to barack obama. they're not going to make the same mistake this time. let's go to hunter walker who broke that story for "business insider." tell us what you know and how you got it. >> thanks very much for having me. a source confirmed to me that sometime this weekend, saturday or sunday, secretary clinton is going to fishily announce her campaign. that will imminently be followed by some travel, and that's pretty much what we know right now. obviously the writing was on the wall for some time. she's leased office space with headquarters in brooklyn, interesting on ooh and cnn reported earlier in the week this was days away. >> apparently "new york daily news" you got the jump on this this afternoon. we got your stories off the

wire, but there's not much difference between those two stories. >> honestly i rushed over here from my office. i know we got it up first, but i haven't seen any other coverage. >> hillary clinton's official campaign announcement is expected sunday, a source has told "the daily news. "a source close to clinton told the daily news the secretary of state is likely no announce via video and social media. she's expected to begin her campaign with a series of smaller events in early voting states, including iowa and new hampshire, though it remains to be seen how low-key the trip will be. >> they have a few more details. they have sunday rather than the weekend. they seem to have the detail that she'll be doing it on video, but cnn reported earlier where she was going to try for a lower-key approach. she's kind of a rock star.

she's absolutely the biggest name in this race. she's leading in every poll. i think it will be difficult for her not to have an extreme level of attention. >> hunter walker, thank you. let's go to the other story. for the latest on the fatal police shooting in south carolina. south carolina state authorities have now released the police dashboard camera video of the incident. it clearly shows the traffic stop, and at one point you see walter scott running from the car, the dashboard camera does not show the fatal shooting where he fired eight shots. joy reid, of course, is still with us. tell us what you know. what does this -- i don't know what to say. it's a horror and other terrible things. to be honest with you, except for the worst possible impulses of people, it doesn't make any sense to me. >> yeah, and i think a lot of

people, particularly with the family when who i spoke for, they saw but for the video taken by a bystander, they believe this would have gone under the rug, the police would have believed the officer's story -- >> but what was his story? that is the hard part i'm sorry, you're right, we see him shooting like in a firing squad manner, very calmly shooting away eight shots at a guy who's -- just a middle-aged guy running away. >> exactly. the officer described in his report to his superiors a struggle over his taser, in which -- and this is the familiar thing you do hear a lot of time in police-involved shootings. i feared for my life and had to draw mild service weapon. that was the officer's original story, which for four days was believed by the department, and -- >> where are we on the taser. picked up and dropped and picked up again. what is that object?

do we know yet in the tape? >> neither the mayor nor the police chief in a press conference would say if they even know what the object was. it does appear to be a taser drop before, up and down they he walks over -- he wouldn't say, they're referring those questions to the state agency that investigated. but real quick, to this new piece of video, what you see in about this three-minute tape is a fairly normal traffic stop followed by walter scott running away. he clearly does not want to continue the interaction over whether or not the car has insurance, et cetera. then you hear very quickly, i'm going to tails you, then you tase tase tase, and then a lot of muffles, and then put your hands behind your back. if doesn't seem like for there to have been a struggle. the big question will be whether the officer fabricated events to

make it look-looking the story he told -- >> let's find out. it took us a lot time to get the facts in ferguson. indaytimes may be as early as next week for the chris christie bridge-gate scandal, but the question is how high will they go up the ladder? and how close to christie? and how damaged will he about? the lahti attack from dick cheney is obama is a man churian candidate. we'll compare it to his own performacy an vice president. he doesn't do well. in the inner saint tun, with this great new book "the residence." dozens speak out about the private lives of the first families they served. we've got the stories for you tonight. finally hope and change as one-time employees look into the future. this is "hardball," the place for politics. oh, i love game night. ooh, it's a house and a car! so far, you're horrible at this, flo. yeah, no talent for drawing, flo.

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welcome back to "hardball." the suspension is building as the u.s. attorney's investigation of the bridgegate heads to a conclusion. the scandal has rocked the state of new jersey and hung over the head of possible 2016 presidential candidate governor christie. now "new york times" is reporting today that indictments could be coming as soon as next week. according to the times it'sing falsely predicted, but now seems to be true. the investigation into the lane closures appear to be, the and

interest and bribery, personally, and these -- and inner circle, bridget and kelly, david sampson, bill bronni, and david wild does that steen, are all put in over by him. , a great title for his show, and an opinion writer with "the washington post." steve, you're the best at this, so we rely on you, there have been false starts. do you believe the times story has got it vlgs if it's to come, it will come next week. >> i do think the idea of it being soon and imminent. i think what's --

>> we had reports starting last december that his endiamonds were imminent. it went in an unanticipated, unexpected direction. that involves david sampson, former chairman, christie's close confidence daniel. the investigation branched out beyond the lane closures, bejoined all the stuff about the george washington bridge that we know but, and now extends into, between united airlines to fly a flight from newark down to south carolina, very close to david sampson's vacation home down in south carolina. what's been suggested to me is that when it comes to the principal players in the closing of the lanes, in the actual george washington bridge scandal, that that stuff was basically done months ago, that that indictment was written months ago, but nothing will be announced under the david sampson piece is completed. we are probably now near the completion of that.

>> this is a story that's haunted this governor. he's always been good copy on the way up or down. cnnport taken right after his reelection, chris christie led hillary clinton by two points in the national -- that's nationally by 48-46. last month cnn poll, leads him by 15, 17-point shift without an indictment. now the fire may well be coming in all around him. richard nixon didn't get indicted to start it. it was the guys around him that had to go. >> that matchup doesn't tell the whole story. he was the colosses far in this field. he's polls len tha than donald trump and ben carson. this was the beginning of this, the bridge-gate that took him apart, but many other things did along the way as well.

now, the question is, look if there were no indictments, would that even help chris christie? maybe in a small way, but even a small number -- a small am of trouble for his aides will certainly not help his come democrat babb bridge. if this has mistaste sized, that's certainly curtains. >> from the very beginning, think ratching is on top of this, it seemed to me, the fact is you're both on this, it seed like he was toying with -- was i out there moving the cones? i mean his attitude was dismissal in a kind of superior way, like you've got to be kidding me, i'm too big, too important to involve myself in something like that. was his pr approach wrong so fa? >> you know, it's interesting.

you could look back if you look close at it. there's a way out for him. time was on his side for the first few months in late 2013, the final months of the year. there was a scenario that came very close to happening where chris christie would have successfully run out the clock on this. that was the key date there was january 15th of the year 2014. that was when -- was going to expire, and the new one was going to come in. what christie knew for all those months in late 2013, early days of 2014, is the incoming speaker of the state assembly, that new legislature, a democrat, had made a commitment that this investigation to the bridge that was being pursued was going to stop. it was not goings to be renewed for the new legislative session, so christie believed run the clock to january 150, and this goes away. the key day was january 8th, one week before the deadline when that e-mail came out.

when that happened, all bets were off, but one week later, the subpoena power would not have been renewed. okay. wet, last night the first episode of a show called "politics and pasta" the first guest was chris christie. he discussed several issues, including bridge-gate. >> i want to ask you, if you had one do-over, one thing to go back and revisit and do it differently, what would it be? >> oh, gosh, i mean, i wouldn't -- i wouldn't have been as trusting as some people, would have asked more questions on certain things in general, and i wish i had that to do over again. >> how would that have worked really? >> i don't know -- you did ask people, but people are going to lie to you, and will lie consistently. >> that's true. i think for me, you know, i'm

pretty good when i'm really aggressive about it. maybe i could have been more aggressive. i don't know. it's one of those things that's surreal to me still, and i don't really understand it still, but it's certainly something that has been, you know, a really bad pertain for me, you know, both personally and professionally. >> we have heard of between two ferns? that's over two bowls. you can smell the pasta. i want to eat it right now. >> it does look good. >> what do you think of that answer. >> i'm reluctant to answer this since you haven't given me a bowl of pasta, but that's like in the job bur view, what's your biggest flaw? i'm too trusting of people, i work too hard. that wasn't the problem. either the problem was he knew what was going on, he was complicit, or he wasn't managing his office properly. he defied the first rule in scandals, as steve was saying,

get the information out there, get it out there quickly. he didn't do that, and now it doesn't really matter. >> my experience as a longtime political guy is you reflect the boss. you end up being him or her sooner or later. thank you. you end up dressing and talking like them. steve, thank you for being ahead of this story, and dana milbank. up next, author kate anderson brower talked to hundreds of employees upstairs about what goes on up there. they were working with them closely and watching them 24/7. these are stories we probably shouldn't know, but to a great reporter they're great stuff. she's bringing them to us, this is "hardball," the place for politics.

the residence, it's called, in the people's house.

and the nannies that work for the presidents and their first families display discretion and dignity as detailed in the film "the butler." >> you know he got that job himself. the white house called him. >> i wanted to hear all the stories. >> i don't know how many stories ear going to here. they have sworn him to some kind of secret code. >> i liked that movie, but that doesn't go as smoothly or quietly. the clintons had a bumpy right says the ought thor, who writes some of the friends of bill who came to party at the white house at their first inauguration back in 12993 were deemed security risks and stopped at the entry gate. we found this clip from our own andrea mitchell at the time. >> the last bush aide was leaving the white house gate. >> i'll see you. >> 13469 clinton's closest friends and advisers were trying to get in. >> i gave the information the

other day. >> and they couldn't get in. apparently they had rap sheets of some sort. to discuss the new book is kate anderson brower, who covered the white house for bloomberg news and "business week" as well. let's run through a couple -- i like history. when richard nixon was basically boozed from the white house. >> i interviewed more than 50 people for this book, most of whom had never spoken to a reporter before, and they said watching the decline of nixon was harder than even jfk's assassination. watching his schedule change completely. he used to be in the oval office at complain, and then it would change to 8:00, there's a very humanizing moment with him after he announces his resignation. the head electrician left,

walked down the colonnade into the residence, and he heard footsteps, and it was the president. the electrician stepped aside assuming the president would want some privacy, and he turned to him and said, bill, walk with me. the two walked alone for a moment, and the head of electrician said you did the best you could, and the president said, thank you, i wish more people felt that way. the two parted ways on the ground floor of the white house. that to me is a humanizing moment. these people are human beings like everyone else. that's what i set out to do with this book. the staff is incredibly fiercely loyal. >> why did they talked to you? it's great stuff, dishing like i've never end. you start the book out and say they don't talk, so what was your trick? >> a lot of them had never been approached by a reporter before. so, you know, i built up a relationship over a year and a half. i went into their lirmts, had

lunch. they would invite me over. we became friendly. we checked in on each other. i had a child. they would send me notes. it was very sweet. we're friends. the tricky stuff between chelsea clinton and the seek yet agent. >> that's a different relationship. chelsea clinton was beloved, but a story told to me on the record by a florist, he was on a second-floor kitchen, chelsea was talking to someone, a secret service agent was getting ready to take her to see friends and she said, wait a minute, one of the pig says here, and the agent said, excuse me, man, i stand between you and a gun and a bullet. so i mean, there was tension. >> and she said -- >> she said that's what my parents call you. >> i'm not defending it, of course, but that word "pig" has a particular meaning for people in the '60s. that's a very '60s term.

why due think that antipathy had built up? any evidence in your reporting? why did they even kid around by calling them pigs. >> it took a long time for them to -- they had been through trooper-gate. they were at that point feeling like they were under siege. >> and nobody could be trusted. >> in some ways they were right. they changed the telephone lines to interior circuitry, so no one coulden listen in on the phone calls. with you staffer said that changed for everything that contained of changed the security system they had in place for decades. you know, i've been up there once when george bush sr. was president. everybody was in a good mood, it was the beginning of a new term. i was amaded about the top third floor. there's no windows, you can't see it from the street.

i heard nixon never got invited up there by the president. maybe bush sr. was up there once with the reagans. what you've gotten into is the tabernacle. >> it's amazing how private they are. it's funny to me a lot of these workers never bragged about where they worked. one butler told me he worked at 1600 pennsylvania avenue, and 99% of people had no idea what that was. they were not out brag being their jobs. >> what was it like having the first african-american family in there. among a staff which has historically been african-american -- their first social secretary could tell -- so proud, they never thought this moment would tum. some of them told me they'll be working as long as they can, because they're so proud, and the obamas, you know, it's interesting, they -- the president said himself these

butt letters do have a special relationship with them. they look at sasha and malia and think of their own children, grandchildren. >> you have a great picture. >> james ramsey passed away recently. sadly a lot of these folks have passed away. i talked to them at the end of their lives where they were able to share things -- >> have you heard from the clintons lately? >> no. >> you're a hell of a reporter. the book is called "the residence." good luck with the book. up next, every now and then dick cheney pops his head out to slam obama. his theory that's putting him out that makes him look like he belongs in the backseat of is the clown car. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics.

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welcome back to "hardball." in the past cheney has called obama the weakest president of his lifetime. well, now the former vice president of the united states is going much further, entering the realm of the looney right. he implied this week that the president could be a man churian candidate trying to take down america deliberately. >> i vacillate between the various theories i have heard, but, you know, if you had somebody as president who wanted to take america down, fundamentally reweaken or position in the worked, and reduce our capacity to influence events, turn our bock on our allies, it would look like exactly what he's doing. his actions constitute in my mind the worst president we've ever had.

>> rudy giuliani just said the president doesn't love this country. >> i'm saying, and i may be wrong, i do not tect in this man the same rhetoric or the same language, the same love of america that i detect in other american presidents, including democrats. >> while multiple scandal continue to play the administration, your commander in chief decided it was appropriate time to apologize for american yet again. >> he does not believe in exceptionalism. he's not interested in america's place in the world, who considers or strength part of the problem. >> this man hates this country. his father was a communist, hi mother was a leftist, sent to prep ivy league schools where his contempt for the country was reinforced.

this is what we have, a radical ideologue, a ruthless politician who despises the country. >> i hope nobody went to harvard where they teach people to be communists. ted cruz said if you want to understand him, he taught at harvard, this is the mccarthy stuff again by him. >> they saw he learned at the need -- >> it sounds -- >> yeah, so i believe he actually likes america. he may or may not be a good president, but that's not my problem.

>> what's so bizarre about this is the bush administration had conceded it would not be a good idea to attack iran's nuclear facilities. and it was under the bush administration that iran got closer to developing -- >> all those sentry fujs. >> which went exponential under bush. >> and that the u.s. got more out of it than he originally thought. he's pandering to the far right. it's really no surprise in that venue you would float these theories. >> when he had lost his father

they age of 2, he had no conversation with his his father, but somehow through osmosis or genes, he somehow became a mao mao? >> and what's really alarming is that we've always had conspiracy theories in american politics. the fact that dick chen yes is really floating a conspiracy theory about how american politics works, and this man was calling the shots from the white house, that's what's so disturbing. >> why is cheney joining the bandwagon? i remember people really didn't like nixon, but they didn't accuse him of being an manchurian cant. they bought the fact of his biography. this crowd denies the very

facts, what is cheney up to, what is he up to now? is he just pandering to hewitt? >> i've been to tell you, if you traffic in the proper media channels, you hear enough of this stuff, it kind of seems normal. there are the blogs you hear it on, the radio shows, a.m. radio is covered with this kind of conversation, and it comes not out of mainstream. >> a friend who teaches high school said if you listen to cheney, his attack on the liberals, oar this administration, he's guilty of everything he's accusing him of. he left us with two quarters, an economy that was in the toilet. obama's economy is pretty good, and certainly fantastic compared to what he inherited, certainly not as bad as they were, and we wouldn't be in the war if it wasn't for they guys.

>> everyone acknowledges the failure of their foreign policy and most americans have a negative perception of their legacy, their record. >> they used to have these gigantic pictures at conventions. well, will he have a big poster at the next republican convention? will he get primetime? >> with a snarl. >> that's always great. darrell hammond does him best. iran's nuclear program flourished under the bush-cheney era. >> and how about the national debt? it tripled. >> everything went wrong. >> the guy won't stop. >> nobody is staying he did it on purpose, right? they failed, but they -- i don't know -- >> compared him in the past rather nicely to the troll that lives under the bridge and waits to the kids who crosses the bridge.

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up next, president obama is set to meet cuban president, raul castro, and we have new polling that suggests that cubans are hungry for change. and guess what, they want to leave cuba, no surprise. this is "hardball," the place for politics. tonight for the summit of the

americas, and tomorrow he may meet with cuban president raul castro. and in a latest step towards normalizing relations between the united states and cuba's, president obama is expected to support removing cuba from the official list of state sponsors of terrorism. meanwhile, a new survey conducted in cuba reveals that many favor closer ties with the u.s. almost 97% of those surveyed said that normalizing relations is good for cuba. 97%. it also shows a majority of cubans are unhappy with how things going in their country today. 53% said they're dissatisfied with the political system. when asked if they can express themselves freely in public, 75% said they have to be careful about what they say. it also found that 55% of cubans want to leave their country, and among those what wont to leave, a majority say they want to come to the united states. in fact, 52% want to leave. despite -- to come here. and despite their disfaction, the report say that 73% were optimistic about their future. paul, what do you make of these numbers? >> i don't know much about cuban polling. is it expected -- >> it's tricky and there is some bias towards -- there's bias towards people who are willing to take a risk to talk. >> that's right. >> and my poll that shows that 93% answered one way for anything, i distrust. that's a communist number, right? >> or a non-communist number. but at least it does show, and i don't think it would surprise you to show that people in cuba are excited about the future possibilities of an economic boom if they build ties in the united states. >> but what gave it similarity is the numbers.

but they said they like their health care system, which we've all known about. and it's not expensive, like it is here. in fact, it's a socialist system. and they also like their education system, which we've heard. they don't like their economic system, which makes sense. they're still driving '57 chevies, which actually i like, but day don't like their political system, because 75% said you can't talk down there. that sounds right. >> i think you needn't look further than the cuban economy to understand at least some of these numbers, even if you take them with a grain of salt. cuba has said that this embargo has cost their economy upward of $1 trillion over the last five decades. you have all these people -- >> but here they say economic system, they don't say how the economy is doing. it's an economic system. it's not all being blamed on us. >> well, i think that if anything, this will give -- this will undermine castro in some ways, because he'll run out of excuses. he won't be able to point to the embargo and place all of the burden on the united states. >> but all these numbers say to me, open the door. what do you say? >> i think that's right. and it's interesting that the politics of free trade cut so

differently there than here. here, it's people are very suspicious of change, but there, they want to open everything up economically. they're not afraid of losing their jobs to, you know, to importers. it's just the opposite. >> thank you, jonathan, thank you, sabrina and paul. when we return, let me finish with karl rove's nasty swing at hillary clinton today in the "wall street journal." you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. i win again. paul george the all-star. you still got it. play for the check? nope, with papa john's new payshare it already split the check for us. so, we wont be needing this anymore. introducing payshare. new at papa john's. share your bill on any mobile or online order. like our philly cheesesteak pizza, with original philly cheesesteak company steak. a large for just $12. better ingredients. better pizza. papajohns.com

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let me finish tonight with karl rove's nasty swing at hillary clinton this morning, in his "wall street journal" column. he said her run for the white house is a case of personal political ambition. when did having ambition become a disqualifier? more to the point, when did it become an attack line in partisan campaigning? i know, you know, karl rove knows that personal ambition is what fuels politics. we don't go out and pick candidates for office, they pick themselves. that's the way it was in high school, in college, wherever there's been an election in our lives, the ambitious come forward, put their names on the ballot and campaign for the job. we don't pick our candidates, they pick themselves. our job is to choose among those who have decided to put themselves out there. the question people should be asking right now is not whether hillary clinton is ambitious, but is she ambitious enough to fight another grueling, two-year campaign for president? politics is based on people having ambition for high office. lincoln, the roosevelts, kennedy, the reagan all had personal ambition, so did the great body of the u.s. congress.

and for that and for most part it didn't start evidencing itself when their names began showing up in the newspapers, it began way back in student and in kmus politics. mitch mcconnell put it best the morning following the 2014 election. he said, i have a caucus of class presidents. hillary, like bill clinton, is politically ambitious. if she won't say so, that just puts her in with the rest of them. name a politician who ever comes out and says, i want to win at this thing. i want to make it as far up the totem pole as i can get. they don't say that. but that's what gives the american policy its zip. whatever other goals a political person holds dear, this one is clearly at the core. that goes for liberals and conservatives both, for women and men both. to suggest it's bad in someone who may well be the first woman president is to stick her a negative for which every male candidate has been seen as a positive. it's called having a fire in your belly. and that's "hardball" for now.

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