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who is the papg seen in the video with walter scott and what did they see happen. dramatic video shows the events leading up to the walter scott event and it started with a routine traffic scott. when the officer goes back to run his driver's license. he starts to leave the car. he told him to stay in the car and goes to run his license and then he takes off. the scott family said he might have ran because he owed child support. scott owed more than $18,000 in back child support and there was a bench warrant for his arrest. for the latest reaction let's head to north charleston and adam riese. what is the latest where you are. >> reporter: good afternoon to you. the scott family is preparing for a wake that should begin in two hours. at the same time there is a
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candlelight vigil here tonight and tomorrow the scott family will lay walter scott to rest exactly one week after the deadly shooting. now, as you said why did he run, from what appeared to be a routine traffic stop. we are starting to learn some answers. nbc news has obtained documents indicating there was a bench warrant out for his arrest. he was 18,000 dollars behind in child support payments. he hasn't made a payment since 2012 and the bench warrant was sent out in 2013 and that is the reason he ran, because he did not want to go back to jail and ironically the officer is in jail and could remain in jail until august. he's hired a high-powered defense attorney based here in charleston and some are wondering how did he -- will he pay for that and he started an online fund and raised about $750. >> and we go to director for the black law enforcement alliance
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good day to you? >> good day. >> i just want to ask you for starters let's look at the context for what a bench warrant like this means. does it have any bearing on whether there was proper use of force, that kind of determination by an officer and what is the proper process for police shooting in an investigation like this? >> well first off. >> the issue of the warrant is totally irrelevant to the use of deadly physical force, which is the first tape that was released itself. the proper procedure for releasing and taking a person in on a warrant is just that you apprehend them and take them to court. you have to be mindful, there are various types of warrants you may have a felony or a misdemeanor warrant or a warrant that pertains to a violation of law. but they are all different. but nob of those -- none of those situations justifies the use of deadly physical force by
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a police officer and given what we've seen in video thus far it is clear that the warrant issue or any other potential issue that may come up over the next several days or weeks is really relevant to that police officer's use of deadly physical force on that day. >> mark ez stay with us as we bring in lisa green, the author of on your case. and lisa certainly on the surface, everything we've seen in this video looking pretty damning for that officer. and if you look at everything we've learned in last few days from the standpoint of a defense, is there anything out there that could bolster the officer's defense. >> it is not what is out there. but it is what is not out there. and i think we can look at the gap in video taping at one of the most important tape gaps since watergate. during the scuffle will the officer and his able attorney be able to argue that somehow he
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was in fear of his life of scott's behavior to the point where he any way, can argue this wasn't a murder where malice of forethought which is the requirement in south carolina, but something closer to manslaughter. there is no question that video is extremely damning but we are leave with an absence that leaves explanation here. >> and this police force in north charleston is not demographically representative of police forces and the police chief indicated they had trouble recruiting minorities and tried to recruit from other departments. is that an issue you've seen typically? >> across the nation that continues to be an issue. listen diversity is an issue across the nation in various departments. but i think it is important, although we support and encourage diversity and have a
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department more reflective of the community they deserve, that is not a panacea or cure of the issues plaguing the police issue right now. that will address the diversity but that is not the answer to prepresent these type -- prevent these types of issues and crimes by police officers having. >> what do you think is a more direct answer to these issues then, mark ez? >> rather than dealing with the completion of -- a complexion of the police agency you need to deal with law enforcement as a whole. the trend, the trend more millitiarize and mands- -- and more hands on and a service model. and we have to find a way, and we are able to do it at this day in age, to blend those practices into one professional police
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department and i think there has to be across the board national standards for entities and agencies, small and large alike. >> and lisa you talked about this missing piece and how that could be important as scott runs from the car and is tasered and this passenger seen in scott's car that is now missing and maybe he saw this portion that none of us have seen. how important is it to find that missing passenger and to find out what happened here. >> critically important. and you can be sure that slager's defense lawyer is on that looking for other witnesses as are prosecutors and authorities. we need the most complete picture we can get of that incident and what happened immediately before so that when prosecutors go to a grand jury which may take months as adam mentioned, maybe next month, they can present a complete narrative and thus secure on the prosecutor's side the conviction
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they want on the defense side they are looking for clues that may shed light into what was going into the officer's mind at the time he shot. >> and markes talking about gap in footage or a zrepanceoy on what we have -- or incomplete dash cam video and a citizen constructed video and at what point do people look at these cases and say we do need a uniform standard of body cameras across the country for full video and complete answers? >> i think there is growing national support for the use of technology including the body cameras. but let me touch on something in regard to this quote, quote, missing piece or link in the video foot ooj. the video is complete. for air defense attorney they'll look for a story before this story. but what we saw from the civilian video is you have a
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police officer in a quite relaxed situation, not looking to be in -- not a reasonable position to be in fear of his life, he assumed the weaver stance he didn't seek cover or dodging and cutting and hiding and he assumed the weaver shot and fired off seven shot and the eighth after a brief pause. so it will be difficult, although the defense attorneys will present that the missing gap, it is difficult to overcome the video evidence by mr. santana. >> thank you for your time. and after a tornado ravaging a small illinois town with no warning siren and now the severe weather heading east. and as governors invade "the cycle."
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seems the political world is on the edge of its seat amid news we may finally get an official announcement by hillary clinton's much-rumored presidential bid. sources close say it could come early as sunday via social media sim lor to her -- similar to her
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2008 on you tube. i'm announcing i'm not just starting a campaign, i'm starting a conversation with you. >> after the expected announcement, hillary clinton will hit the campaign trail. but how long will she be the lone democrat. joining us former dnc chairman and hillary clinton support governor howard dean. that answers one of the questions. you are not challenging her. but some of the news in the last 24 hours is another name that came out of nowhere, the normer governor of rhode island lincoln chafee saying he is considering running for the democrat ic democratic nomination. clearly rushing her declaration.
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but lincoln chafee as a republican senator in 2002 voted against that. and there was frustrations about democrats who voted for the war and the obama having opposed the war and clinton voting for it has that issue died out in the democrat party. >> since i didn't win i had a long time to think about this and i realized now -- what i did was run against the democratic party. they were voting for bush's tax cuts which bankrupt the country and the biggest foreign disaster with the possible of 1812 where we got our capital burned down and we made the middle east -- >> but doesn't that -- >> in the last 14 years. >> you are supporting her right now but she was confronted with
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that choice and her choice was war and not everybody made that choice in 2002. >> and just about everybody did make that choice. >> lincoln chaffee didn't. about two dozen democrats didn't. >> yes. but just about almost everybody in the democratic party did. and to go back and relitigate something like that is silly. this campaign is about income inequality which you've talked about and it is about income inequality and with hillary clinton, who can handle the challenges abroad and i don't think there is anybody like her that can handle that. >> and you mention income inequality and he is on in the show later in the hour so he can speak about that and governor o'malley also out in iowa talking about the economic issues. and you obviously have your
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excellented candidate -- your selected candidate, governor but is it good to have the other challengers to your preferred candidate. >> as i always said. of course you have the primary. this is the most important office in the world. i happen to across the aisle think chafee did a wonderful job and i would support him, because of his stance on gay rights which is courageous for a governor to do and i think martin o'malley is a great human being and a good mayor so no it doesn't hurt to have a primary and have different ideas and that is what primaries are for. this is a good debate and not about catty or smarting ideas on television i think that is a good thing. >> on the other side republicans may have a clash of ideas. they have more than enough to go
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around. but ultimately there will be a general election and let's assume hillary clinton does make it to the general election. who do you think poses the greatest challenge for her and who are you concerned about on the far right becoming the nominee. >> i'm hoping for some of the people on the far right becoming the nominee. let's be candid about this. and i am not doing this to be difficult. i think jeb bush is the most enable candidates. and my friends say don't endorse him. >> should this be important? >> yes. this is the most important office in the world. the two most likely to win is jeb bush. who does understand public policy and scott walker who doesn't understand public policy
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and is a very good politician. >> you don't think he does understand foreign policy. >> i don't. he hurt wisconsin. it was the 11th best wisconsin in the country and it is now 40th. that is scott walker's record as governor but he gets the headlines by beating up the unions and the working professors. that is great for politics but not good for his state. >> and we have campaign announcements coming and people exploring presidential runs. what is it like to think about running for president and how did you make the call to jump in? >> i work differently than most people. which sort of showed at the end, didn't it? once i decided -- i decided just like that and i didn't go through -- if you looked at somebody from a state of 610,000 people with $150,000 in the bank you would say you are clinically insane to run for president. i thought i had a strong
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message. the message was about universal health care balance and and balancing the budget. and i think it is one of the biggest problems with republicans. they cut taxes but not programs. if you want to cut taxes, you have to cut programs and they have not done that back to ronald reagan. so i wanted a balance budget and i thought okay you've been governor for six terms and so go do it and so i did. but the process is brutal. >> the primary. >> the primary and the general election is brutal. and one of the things i've come to understand is if you want this office you better be ready to go through the primary. and what will you do when vladimir putin demands alaska back. you get tested and those who
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come out the other end are well qualified to be president. >> and you did run a well-oiled candidate. and you were the only person to give me a interview. and up next. another former governor. who might have his sights set on the white house. and ari's exclusive interview, former maryland governor martin o'malley, that is next. and then one day you tap the bumper of a station wagon. no big deal... until your insurance company jacks up your rates. you freak out. what good is having insurance if you get punished for using it? hey insurance companies, news flash. nobody's perfect. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance.
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recovery and survival search crews are looking for more survivors after last night's tornado. it rip through the town of fairdale. nearly every building was damage or destroyed.
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only two people were killed. we are live on the ground in fairdale. what is going on. >> reporter: if you were wanting to take a snapshot of what fairdale looks like i'm standing in front of it. many homes were flattened and obviously unsalvageable and some were trapped for hours when a restaurant roof collapsed and they all managed to get out with minor injuries. what is happening here today, well power crews, they are all over the place making sure that the downed power lines have been cut off and there is no yus run run -- no juice is running in them. the first responders are going door-to-door doing double and triple checks making sure those unaccounted for are not buried in the rubble. and hillary clinton could
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head to iowa to announce her presidential campaign but she might found some company there. and martin o'malley is testing the waters in iowament and i sat down with him and why he thinks the democratic party must return to its roots. >> is this a business meeting? >> it is. >> former maryland governor martin o'malley is in iowa testing a presidential run. >> i do enjoy iowa. and one of the things i learned 30 years ago is how seriously people take their responsibility in iowa and they are never juked or thrown off by the inevitability or the pundits that polls say. >> he thinks iowa is interested in his argument. >> i think the democratic party have come up short.
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people expect us to put some common sense arguments in place. there are more repercussions for a chronic speeder than for a big bank being a chronic violators of s.e.c. rules. >> does that mean president obama has put in the wrong people in the s.e.c. in your view. >> yes i would say that. i think most people in watching what hasn't happened -- nonprofit a single executive faced any sort of prosecutions for the wrongdoing that went on and i think the s.e.c. has been feckless when if comes into reining in the behavior on wall street. >> and if your administration would try to pursue kapss that would put bankers in jail. >> yes. i would have the government do its job. our federal government has a job to do and we can't expect wall street to police itself. that is why we have a federal government. >> do you think the system is
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rigged? >> i think in many ways yes. sure. i mean look for 30 years we followed this trickle down theory of economies that said concentrate down and keep wages low so we can be competitive, whatever the hell that means. and for the first time since the second world war ifr i -- wages have declined rather than go up. >> and part of your project is moving the democratic party away from wall street and toward main street aeb working class -- and working class issues. >> absolutely. it is about calling the party back to its true self. and it seems special interest trump massive interests. and americans want to give their kids a better future. >> and he had a philosophy for
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measures. and he used city strack to track performance. >> as a city we started measuring results. and in baltimore, smaller things done well did well. >> he cut violent crime by 30% and he also repealed the death penalty and harsh marijuana laws. >> i want to read to you what rand paul said this week. i see criminal justice applies law and any law that disproportionately imprisons be repealed. do you agree with him? >> yes. and sadly for many years in our state and city we had different standards of justice. >> the naacp sued maryland and said in 2005 there were 108,000
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arrests and those numbers later dropped and what do you say that that kind of policing was? >> we allowed our city to become the most violent and addictive in america. i promised to recover all of our neighborhoods from the 24/7 drug dealer occupation. we made our police force more diverse and we reduced the time in the office and the police-involved shootings and reduced violent crime. >> he was appalled by this week's video of a south carolina officer shooting a fleeing unarmed man. >> i think all of us who watched that video have right to be very horrified and outraged by it. >> and while jurors will consider the death penalty know. week in the boston bombing trial, o'malley remains against
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it. >> i'm opposed to the death penalty and i don't believe it works. and in the case of this individual, he shot rot in person for the harm he's done for so many people and children. it is not a deterrent. those in this globe responsibility for the greatest number are places like yemen, iraq iran communist china, i don't believe our country belongs on that list. >> if he does run, he'll face the biggest name in democratic politics. >> you have bush you have paul dynasties right there. >> are you saying paul is a dynasty dynasty? >> you tell me. are there too many dynasties right now? >> i don't think the presidency is a crown to be passed back and
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forth through dynasties. i think candidates should earn this trust. i don't believe it is a her editary right. >> and she doesn't believe clinton is inevitable. >> and there is an inevitable front-runner until they are inefitiable. >> and would you like to be the front-runner or where you are right now? >> i like where i'm at. >> and can you see his approach to crime and policing with extra details on the cycle at msnbc or look at photos go straight to my instagram page atari mel bur instagram. and coming up a potential rival coming up.
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president, it seems the playing field might be leveling with early polls showing support starting to slide. that same field getting more crowded. we heard on this broadcast from martin o'malley and howard dean. now lincoln chafee and senator from rhode island surprising many with an announcement he is considering running. with us former governor and senator lincoln chafee. good day. >> good afternoon. good day. >> i spent most of your career as a republican. why should democrats pick you as potentially the person to lead the party in 2016. >> well i've never changed in my convictions whether on environment or fiscal responsibility or on using the tools of the government to help the less fortunate. certainly not getting into these kwag priors over -- quagmires overseas and on these issues i've stayed consistent and i've evolved from a republican to an independent and now to a democrat as my party changed, it
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changed away from me but i've never changed. >> so you said the labelling evolved but you haven't. and the quagmires in iraq and you said this should disqualify her and this should disqualify most of congress. and is this strictly your disagreement over the iraq war. >> we'll have disagreements. but this is the big one. we live with the bad decisions, we just finished with the berlin wall coming down the soviet union and america was admired around the world and then we made this decision telling our allies saying we believed there were weapons of mass destruction around there. i didn't believe it. i didn't trust bush and cheney. but it was such a bad decision.
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and we live with it today. it is not just 12 years ago and we can put it in the rearview mirror. >> so governor let's talk about domestic politics which is sure to come up in a campaign which is social security and what to change about it. elizabeth warren a woman that many would like to see jump into the race. let's listen to her. >> over the past generation working families have hacked at chipped and hammered. if we want a missile class that continues to serve as the backbone of our country, then we must take the retirement crisis seriously. seniors have worked their entire lives and paid into this system. but right now, more people than ever are on the edge of financial disaster once they retire. and the numbers continue to get worse. that is why we should be talking about expanding social security
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benefits, not cutting them. >> do you agree with senator warren? should we expand social security. >> i agree that we need to do more to help the middle class. they are getting squeezed. it is distressing what is happening to the middle class today. i agree with education, whether it is head start. why should the wealthy have the pre-k. they can afford to send the children to the pre-k school and the pell grants why should the wealthy send their children to college. so pell grants worked well for generation and others -- >> and so would you expand social security. >> at the time it was a entitlement that many said we could not afford in the present state, age of retirement in my
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time of the senate so i'm hope to what we do with social security. >> so governor you run for president to win, what is your pathway to winning the nomination? are you willing to spend some of your own wealth to get there? >> well i've been in 12 elections in my career starting at the local and through the federal and state level, 12 different elections and the pathway is hard work and radsing necessary funds. that is the -- >> but i have to say because you are a straight shooter and having gone through this with my family it can get to the point where you have to put in your own family wealth are you going to be willing to do that? >> well what is needed in a presidential campaign is well beyond what my family can afford. >> so no? >> governor lincoln chafee you have people talking and talking beyond partisan lines. we look forward and thank you
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constitution of the united states. >> we need to go boldly forth under a banner of liberty that clutches the constitution in one hand and the bill of rights in the other. >> clearly over200 years later politicians still point to those two documents as the bedrock of our democracy and it wouldn't have been possible for the then 36-year-old james madison. the fascinating new book becoming madison calls how he transformed himself into the sort of statesman that we are so desperately seeking today. with us the book's author michael signer. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> and talk about how madison is emblem attic of how we should judge the ideas less than the personality of our candidates. >> right. this book goes into the story of
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james madison. keep in mind he was 5'4" and 100 pounds and he had crippling panic attacks and he overcame that to shape the country and the world and what was so remarkable is he focused on challenging americans to overcome the lowest common denominators and to focus on the substance at hand and to overcome their prejudices and to think about the country they wanted to build together and that was the country embedded in the constitution. what i thought was so incredible by ted cruz citing patrick henry and citing the constitution was patrick henry lost in the battle for the constitution of the united states. that was the story of this book becoming madison. is he defeated the anti-federalists with patrick henry wanting to go to a state's rights philosophy and this
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little diminutive anxious introvert defeating the hero and by challenging colonial americans to embrace the constitution and embrace a federal government and embrace a philosophy of the future. so it is an incredible story. >> you said a 5'4" 100 pounds demminuive. and one of the founding fathers. i'm trying to imagine in the year 2015 everything is on television and you tube and seriously somebody -- physically, could somebody elect a 5'4"100 pound president. >> listen we elected barack obama with his -- he's pretty tall now. >> he's a good-looking tall breast player. -- a basketball player. and i think we could. he created a constituenty that
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was about presidents. my first book was about demagogs. and hillary clinton is a high moment of her career. and with barack obama you see the debt crisis. and so i think the american people are ready for somebody -- it would be new. but i think that the heroism has played it out in a way that we might be ready for someone serious and short and introvert. >> and are we focused on height but shadily that -- sadly that could be the case. and we talk about washington being dysfunctional and you wrote about how madison figured out a way to get things done.
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what did he get right? >> so many different things. and i call the core and focusing deep on the conviction within your heart. and you look at politicians you can tell they are reiterating talking parts and leader knowing what they are talking about and focusing on the state. we have a cynicism about government itself. that is a product of a 50 year conservative campaign to delegitimate government and he would focus on the idea not the man. so you keep the focus on the ideas. and you look at the challenges serious long-term challenges immigration, climate change infrastructure education, the wage gap. these are serious challenges and i do think the american people are ready for a serious discussion on all of them and just thinking that heroes will play it out and somebody like ted cruz will manipulate our
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welcome back. sometimes fact is stranger than ficktion and that is the case with our next guest. in 2001 mike with you a rising star at "the new york times" but it came crashing down after he fabricated stories about cocoa plantations. he lost his job and moved to montana but tracked down by a fellow reporter who tells him a guy arrested miles away for murder is telling the cops he's also mike finkel. what follows is a story of murder stolen identities and
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gripping trial. "true story" recounts the strange and true tale making its way to the silver screen staring jonah hill and james frankel. i once to start and play a portion of the movie where jonah hill plays you and finds out that an accused murderer stole your identity take a look at this. >> hi my name is pat fraydo. i'm a reporter with the oregonian. i'm sure you're buried this by now but i wanted to get your sipe side on the christian lungo story. >> who? >> christian lungo, the child killer. he murdered his entire family in newport. you must know about him. they finally took him down in cancun last week. you hadn't heard. >> why are you telling me this? >> because when they yap hended him he said he was mike finkel. of the "new york times." >> whoa. i have to say, i have never even read a story quite like this. that scene actually happened to you in real life. what was going through your mind
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when you got that call? >> yeah. it was possibly the creepiest moment of my life. career low feeling terrible strange phone call comes, i thought it was a guy asking what happened at "the new york times" and he's asking me about four murders which at the heart of the story is a huge strategy three children and a wife killed and i was comfound and confused. >>? life we think about the connections we make with other people and often think about them deliberately who do you try to meet and spend time with. what in this story, this experience that you had, revealed the way you can be drawn up in something completely randomly? >> as my -- in my career as a journalist i spept times and p in really unusual places in the middle east, months and months in afghanistan, i thought i could read people. look at someone, i'm not going to get in that car, you're telling me the truth. in this encounter it pulled the rug under me. i couldn't tell whether this guy
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was telling me the truth or he was lying. he would look me in the eye, no clue, it was like a surface of utter calmness and normalcy and underneath this guy at the time he was accused almost certainly killed his family and later turns out he is guilty. >> wow. talk to us about the relationship that you developed with lungo over the course of this period? >> even that question gives me a knot in my stomach because it was a really confounding relationship. on one hand, you know it's like this classic sociopath, he's charming witty, sitting at this table he would be much more quotable than me handsome. he went to mexico as mike finkel and immediately picked up a photographer and slept with her like this skill and smoothness and then underneath, what's underneath you start peeling away the layers and you don't know. when he plays him in the movie he does an amazing job. he looks normal and looking into his eyes --
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>> why you? >> that was my first question. i have one fan, a psychopath. this guy had been reading, like me when i was growing up what i wanted to do most in the world was run around and see places around the world and write about them. didn't want to be a photographer or filmmaker, really a journalist. this guy chris lungo also wanted to be that and read my articles. those are the kinds of articles i would like to do. that's the way i would have written it. >> he identified with you. not strategic for his crimes. >> he was a fan and when on the run he's like i'm going to fulfill this unusual fantasy of being a journalist. he took on my name not only my name. >> bizarre. >> talked about stories he wrote that i actually wrote. met a photographer quote/unquote hired a photographer and they became a couple. this is really unusual stuff. >> wow. >> what is it -- in this movie jonah hill plays you. what is it like watching this movie and seeing a famous hollywood star playing you? do you feel like yeah he got me
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or that's not what i would say, that's not how i would handle it. what's that experience like? >> it's a little surreal to say the least. jonah hill is so talented. i was honored he played me. i thought he did a good job. it's a movie. things different in real life. >> like hanging out with you to capture your character, personality? >> we had one relatively intense dinner which he asked me a bunch of questions he his artistic to take what we talked about and go off with it. >> this is a redemption story for you, moved to montana, gone through all of that thinking your life will be changed forever and after this it was. >> mostly a tragedy and never stop thinking about mary jane and the three children killed. i have three children of my own. i think about that. some of the crazy shakespeare yan themes not just life and death but crime and punishment and redemption, indeed. all those things come to life. >> it is really the craziest story. >> it's unbelievable.
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what lesson do you draw when it's all over here. >> there's a lot of lessons. sometimes when a person like lungo people are like how could you stand and talking to a person like that? it's true sometimes i can't stand it. sometimes because someone is evil or don't understand it that's the person you want to try to talk to. a lot of people said that to me it's my great hope maybe there will be some person charming on the outside, really empty on the inside. >> wow. thank you for being with us. i look forward to seeing this film. >> appreciate it envyinvitation. >> that does it for "the cycle" "now with alex wagner" starts now. >> nearly every republican 2016 hopeful is making a pitch to the nra right now. president obama is poised to make a major announcement on cuba. and joe biden stole a pacifier. but first, game of thrones returns this weekend, not just
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