this weekend. she'll be in iowa on monday. i'll be in iowa on monday covering the campaign for the first day in a report here on "the ed show" on monday evening at 5:00 eastern. that's "the ed show." "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed. thanks to you for tuning in. we start with developing news. the big announcement. in less than 48 hours hillary clinton is expected to launch her campaign for president. there's been a lot of hints dropped all along the way. >> well hello, iowa. i'm back! now, i'm obviously thinking about all kinds of decisions. all in good time. all in good time. >> sources close to the campaign tell nbc news clinton will announce as early as sunday with

a video message on social media followed by small scale campaign stops next week. starting in iowa. clinton publishing a new final chapter to her book today writing about the impact of becoming a grandmother. quote, rather than make me want to slow down it has spurred me to speed up. she'll enter the race as the clear front-runner for the democratic nomination, no doubt about it. and republicans know it. at the nra's big convention today, she immediately became a central focus for attacks from the gop 2016 hopefuls. >> i think all of us are what hillary clinton once called the vast right-wing conspiracy. >> we got a president, people like hillary clinton, who seem to think that you measure success in government by how many people are dependent on the

government. >> it's the liberal progressive world view of barack obama and hillary clinton and eric holder and all the other people who want to take the guns out of the hands of the good guys. >> we knew the gop attacks would come, but what's interesting is how this will play out with democrats. some progressives like elizabeth warren remain noncommittal and former governor martin o'malley a potential democratic candidate, isn't pulling punches. >> look i think the presidency is not a crown to be passed back and forth between two families. it is a sacred trust to be earned and exercised on behalf of the people of our country. >> it's a big moment. hillary clinton trying to make history and it officially starts this weekend. joining me now is president of the center for american progress.

she served as policy director for hillary clinton's 2008 presidential campaign. former pennsylvania governor and dnc chair ed rendell, and jonathan capehart of "the washington post." thank you all for being here. >> thanks rev. >> great to be with you. >> you were there in 2008. as clinton's 2016 campaign gets under way, what are your thoughts? >> look i think that over the next few weeks she's really going to be listening to people about her concern, sharing her concerns with the country. we were most successful in the past when hillary was able to hear from people she did it as a senate candidate as a senator. she wants to hear from people about what their anxieties are, what their hopes are for the future and show them that she has a vision for moving the

country forward. there are new challenges today and they call for new ideas and new leadership. she'll hear from the american people about those issues. >> when you say new ideas, new leadership you are referring to new as opposed to the president, or new as opposed to the clinton years? what do you mean new ideas and new leadership? >> i mean that these are new times. it's not the 1990s, it's not 2008. we shouldn't be relitigating the issues of the past. i'm saying that hilly has core values people know about but the country is in a different place than it's been in the past and she'll have to lay out her views on this issue. i presume she's not running for the third term of barack obama or bill clinton. she's running as her own candidate and a person who has ideas around those. >> a video on social media followed by a small-scale

campaign in iowa instead of a big rollout, that is interesting, but isn't neera right? won't she have to talk about things that were not on the table in 2008 like the trade agreements, like climate change like police what's going on in charleston, won't she have to deal with what's going on today to show that she can, in fact, be president? >> of course rev. there's no question about that. i think most of all in the video that she's going to release on sunday it's important for her to lay out a vision. i want to change the way washington operates the gridlock, i think i can bring us together and find common ground. i want to do something about income inequality doing something about raising the minimum wage. i want to invest in america, investing in our infrastructure our research and development and most of all our education for

our children. she has got to lay out that vision and that vision is different from 2008 in some ways but still the same. she can do it and she's done it before. and neera's right, she became a great candidate in 2008 by the end when she won all those primaries because she let it rip, talked about what she believed in. voters may not be so sophisticated but they're smart and intuitive. they can tell when they're listening to the real deal as opposed to something scripted. by the time hillary reached ohio texas and pennsylvania she was speaking from the heart and she was terrific. >> jonathan do you thing that hillary clinton has learned some lesson from 2008 the fact that it was late in the campaign when her authenticity started coming out and when the governor says she has to lay out a vision, how specific does she have to be. she did tweet yesterday about charleston but it was general.

saying we can do better more reform. but what does that mean? the devil's in the details. or does she have to be that specific yet? >> well i don't think she has to be that specific just yet. i mean by sunday she'll be the only declared democrat in the race. there are two declared republicans in the race. we're what 19 months away from an actual election day. i think by going and talking in small venues to people in iowa and presumably new hampshire, south carolina nevada the early states the early primary states on the democratic calendar, that through those events and through those questions and answers we'll start to hear and start to hear from her about what she thinks on things or thinks about things facing the country. we'll get to see what neera was talking about, her vision for the future because, as neera says this is correct. she's not running for a third term of barack obama. she's not running for a third term of bill clinton.

and if that's the route she ends up going down that's not going to be a winner for her. people are looking to the future. i think one of the other lessons -- two lessons i think she'll probably have learned from 2008 one to take nothing for granted. nothing is inevitable. and two, to absolutely play up the historic nature of her candidacy being the first woman president is something that the country should be looking forward to and she should not only run as being the first woman president but giving people a reason to elect her their first woman president. >> we're definitely going to be talking a lot about that coming up. neera, let me ask you this. the "times" reported back in september that hillary met with elizabeth warren seeking her, quote, favor. here's what elizabeth warren said to me when i spoke to her on this show not too long ago. listen to this.

a lot of progressives have questions about whether she'll be a progressive warrior. what would you say to them? >> you know i think that's what we got to see. i want to hear what she wants to run on and what she says she wants to do. that's what dpancampaigns are supposed to be about. >> how important will it be for hillary clinton to rally progressives like elizabeth warren? >> i think it's important for her to rally the broad swath of the democratic party and more and more americans. and you know having worked for hillary, i know her record on these issues. you know we talked about the -- we talked about the 2007/2008 campaign. she came out for derivatives, she went to wall street to discuss wall street and really criticize wall street's role in the coming crash and the big challenges we were facing. truthfully, if you look at how she ran her campaign at the end,

where she was a champion for the middle class, people were struggling, she really talked about how, you know she was getting back up after taking some blows, but it wasn't anything compared to what the american people were going through who were struggling at that time and who have been struggling. so i think that listening to folks, getting in people's living rooms, we're going to see -- she's going to see how the american people are feeling today, what are their struggles, what is frustrating them. but we're going to see not only how she is a champion but has been a champion fighting for a minimum wage increase is not new for her. that's something she's been talking about for a long time and a champion throughout her career. talking about the role that you know we have in rising inequality, wage stagnation. these are issues that are not new to her. >> governor i think recounting her record is one thing. but will she be able to rally progressives with just

recounting her record? >> well she should point out -- neer ashes's neera's right she should note that she took stands in the past. but no she can't just recite her record. she needs to talk about issues that are confronting the country now, and she will. she'll more than satisfy profwrespro progressive progressives. you heard in the excerpt she played, they're already casting her as this progressive way-out liberal. they know her record. hillary's got to do a balancing act like all candidates do. she's got a good record. she'll talk about those issues. minimum wage should be something right off the bat that should be job one not just for the hillary campaign but for america. every american who has got any decency knows that we can't keep people at the wage level they are today. hillary will champion that just as she has in the past. >> jonathan is she ready for the republican or right-wing

attacks, the benghazis, the e-mails, on and on and on? it's going to be clearly their angle to go after what all they have and then some. >> sure, absolutely. she's ready for it. and you know what rev, she's been fighting them for 20 years. so this really isn't anything they can throw at her that she can't anticipate and that she can't handle. >> neera tanden former governor ed rendell and jonathan capehart, thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks, rev. >> all of you have a good weekend. >> you too, rev. straight ahead, how will this campaign be different from her last? plus there's already speculation about how could be hillary's running mate. housing and urban development secretary julian castro is being mentioned. he responds ahead. and internal criminal investigation on the use of excessive force is under way in

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connection with women at appearances all over from a united nations conference on women's empowerment, to a silicon valley conference. it's been very clear, women are front and center. here she is last month at an event for emily's list. >> when women participate in politics, the effects ripple out far and wide. we're not just standing up for women but for all people and for our families our communities, our country and, indeed the kind of world we want for our children. don't you want to see more women running for school boards who will fight for better schools for our kids? don't you want to see more women running for mayor and governor who will put our families first? and i suppose it's only fair to say don't you some day want to see a woman president of the united states of america?

>> joining me now are democratic strategist margie o'meara and the huffington post's laura bassett. thank you both for being here tonight. >> good evening, reverend. >> margie how important is it that hillary is embracing running as a female candidate this time around? >> well i think it's important to separate out putting a finger on i'm the female candidate, vote for me and demonstrating through the policies that she supported for decades, not just starting sunday that would help women, that would help women in all various stages of their life and all various life circumstances. and i think she's able to do both. and i think that's why you see her benefiting from a gender gap across the board, not just with democrats but also with republicans and independents because i think women see not just that they want to support a woman candidate but that hillary

clinton specifically and women candidates more broadly really understand what it's like to be a woman in america right now. >> laura, in most of her speeches she's made recently she's been outspoken in a push for women's issues. listen. >> bringing women and girls off the margins and into the mainstream of every profession as well as every community and every country has to be our mission now. i know there are still people who roll their eyes when i or others say that women's issues are america's issues but they're just going to have to get used to it. and as women, let's do more to help all women lead on and succeed. there's a special spot in hell for women who don't help other women.

so what you do does not have to be big and dramatic. you don't have to run for office. >> you know laura, is this message going to resonate with men as well as women? >> i think it will. you know hillary is really capitalizing on a moment right now. 2008, it doesn't feel like that long ago, but it really was a different world in terms of the media landscape. so much has happened since then. the so-called republican war on women, for instance. the attacks on abortion access on birth control, todd akins' rape comment, rush limbaugh's slut comment. this rebirth of feminism and talking about women's issues. celebrities have made it cool beyonce, taylor swift, lena dunham equal pay. there's more women anchors, more

women reporters reporting on women's issues and i think men have been really supportive of the cause as well. so i think while i hadry couldn't necessarily embrace some of those things back in 2008 even if she may have supported them back then now is the time to talk about them because now is the time that men and women want to hear about them and are ready to talk about them. >> you know let's look at where many of the gop potential contenders stand on women's issues margie. on a woman's reproductive rights, they're all against the right to choose. on pay equality, they're all opposed to any legislation mandating equal pay. and paid sick leave, none of them support it. laura, is this coming to a campaign -- is this going to be part margie of a campaign ad near you? >> absolutely. look, and these issues have been important to voters well before they've been coming up in recent

pop culture references and in campaigns. i've seen for a long long time gender pay equity work well with women and be a strong message with men, not alienating. and even in very conservative areas of the country, you see men who say, well of course we should -- mammograms should be part of insurance. why wouldn't they be? of course we should have mandatory maternity care coverage. these are not controversial with the voter even if they've become controversial in washington. i think you're going to have a lot of folks on the right, republican candidates trying to figure out how to talk about this and struggling. whether or not it sounds like they're waging war or whether or not it sounds like they're simply tone deaf, we'll have to wait and see. hillary clinton went to beijing 20 years ago and said human rights are women's rights. these are not a new subject area for her. >> let me ask you this quickly, laura, does a primary hurt or

help hillary clinton if an o'malley runs and catches fire or bernie saunders or if an elizabeth warren changes her mind? does a primary help or hurt her? >> i think it absolutely helps her. i think that nobody wants to see hillary clinton coronation right now. they want to see her fight for the democratic nomtination. she's prepared to fight for it. the republicans are having to fight for it. they have a really crowded field. and they have to run the gauntlet of these attacks and hillary shouldn't sail right through because by the time she gets into a debate with a republican, she's not going to be prepared. the more people who are kind of nipping at her ooels the better for her. >> margie omera and laura bassett, thank you for your time. >> thank you. coming up, the disturbing police beating caught on tape in california. the fbi has now launched an investigation to determine whether civil rights were

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now to north charleston south carolina and an emotional meeting. the by stander who recorded the deadly shooting of walter scott on his cell phone met the scott family. and my colleague craig melvin was there. >> this is santana. this is feine santana. >> oh thank you, god, thank you, lord. bless him, god. thank you, god. thank you. thank you.

>> thank you god. thank god. >> does this put you at peace? >> gloria. >> i don't know how this would have turned out with the video. i don't know how i could thank you more. i'm appreciative. i'm grateful. i'm so glad that you had enough courage to turn that video in so from the bottom of my heart i wanted to really thank you for doing that. >> for myself as a person and for them you know as a family i'm sure that they would look for justice also. >> thank you. >> what an emotional scene that was. and we're live in north

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breaking news out of south carolina. we're learning the passenger who was in the car with walter scott when he was stopped has spoken to investigators. we're also learning of a second dash cam video that captured part of the encounter. we're working to get that video. joining me now from north charleston is msnbc's national correspondent tremayne lee. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> what do we know about this second passenger? >> we don't know much at all. the one thing we do know that he's been adamant about not being identified. until today, until later this afternoon we didn't know if he'd talked to investigators or not. but what's critical here when you watch the dash cam video released yesterday, there's a

moment in which walter scott steps out of the vehicle and officer slager demands that he hops back in his car. then 20 seconds later he hops up out of the car and runs. the only person that might have insight into what was going through walter scott's mind why he decided to run, is walter scott and that individual in the vehicle. now again the south carolina law enforcement division has not come out and given any details about the meeting or what this passenger may or may not have said but now one piece of the mystery is solved at least from a law enforcement perspective, that they have spoken with that second individual. >> second dash cam video we're working to get it. what can you tell us about that trymaine? >> that's still a work in progress. we have to imagine until we discover otherwise that this video does not capture the final moments of his death. so we have a gap here. we have that first dash cam video, then we have the video recorded by the witness on his cell phone. we're not sure if this second dash cam video does anything at

all in the way of exposing anything about that gap between the dash cam video and that witness' cell phone video. >> we're being told that the witness with the cell phone video is not on this tape. >> okay. so that would mean -- that would have to mean that the second dash cam video was further away closer to the scene where the car was actually stopped. there's still that gap. it's unclear what that video might show the gap between the first dash cam video and the witness' cell phone. >> what's the reaction on the gound ground after this second cell phone video has been released? >> not much more. >> i'm talking about the dash cam video from yesterday, by the way, but go ahead. >> i got you. it doesn't do much in terms of the folks on the ground are organizing around walter scott's death, because for them the important video is the one that shows him being shot down by the officer. so there hasn't been much made

about the dash cam video. it's more about what they saw with their observe eye swn eyes. right now behind us at north charleston city hall dozens are gathering for a candlelight vigil. people went into the council meeting and demanded if they could get a sitdown with the mayor and the city council to demand a civilian review board to keep their eyes on the police department. they also want to tonight train folks on how to shoot video. they do have a do shoot campaign meaning whenever you see anybody being pulled over or arrested by the police you pull out your cell phone and you shoot it. many have said without this video, where would we be? >> now we showed the emotional meeting between the family and the young man who shot the video on his cell phone. and i talked earlier this morning with one of the brothers anthony, who was upset

with some erroneous reports that i wasn't welcome there, which is not true. i have not talked to him since. i will over the weekend. do you know anything about the state of the family in terms of where their heads are after that meeting and, of course, on the eve of the funeral tomorrow? >> you know this is a very emotional time for the family for so many obvious reasons. now, for people who are watching this network and for reporters covering every little detail but for that family i think we have to remember that their brother, their son was killed and his killer is now facing murder charges. and so as we get steps closer to that funeral which will certainly be one measure of closure in one sense, the closure for the family may never come as they continue to mourn the death of their son and their brother. >> well i think that the nation is praying for the strength of that family as i told the

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that wasn't the last we heard from barack obama. in 2012 it was -- it was julian castro's turn. the democratic mayor of san antonio galvanized the entire crowd in charlotte by telling his story, an american story. >> my grandmother never owned a house. she cleaned other people's houses so she could afford to rent her own. but she saw her daughter become the first in her family to graduate from college. and my mother fought hard for civil rights so that instead of a mop, i could hold this microphone. >> last year president obama anointed julian castro to his cabinet as secretary of housing and urban development. he's tackling what he calls an affordable housing crisis and working on new jobs programs for lower income workers and there's

been all kinds of speculation castro could be hillary clinton's pick for vice president. earlier this week before the hillary news came out about her campaign i spoke with him about that. but i started by asking about hud, what he's doing to tackle that affordable housing crisis. >> many americans have the american dream of finding a good place to call home home ownership or at least an affordable rental, but so many americans today have a challenge in terms of affordability. in fact the last analysis that we did about a year ago showed that there are 7.7 million americans who are of modest means who are not on any kind of government housing assistance right now that are paying at least 50% of their monthly income in rent or live in

substandard housing or both. so the question is how can we make that american dream more real? >> tell me a little bit about the new jobs program. how is it designed to work? and what kind of success is it having so far? >> this program is called jobs plus and the idea is that we're not just in the housing business. we really ought to be in the lift you up help lift you up so you don't need our housing business. what we really want is to spark opportunity in the lives of people who live in public and subsidized housing, so jobs plus is basically an initiative to connect folks who live in public housing to the information and the resources that they need to get effective job training and to get a decent job so that they can provide for themselves and their families and ultimately get up and out to the kind of life and success that they want to have. >> why is housing still a civil rights issue today? >> it's a civil rights issue

because so much of being able to have success in our country and just generally is based on having a good place to call home. and what we see impoverished communities whether it's big urban areas or in smaller communities is that so many folks who have traditionally been shut out of opportunity in the past continue to face significant barriers because they can't get affordable housing and so to the extent that we address housing affordability, we also create a platform so that we can build on that and create success in their lives in education, in employment and ensure that really they can come fully into the fold of opportunity in the united states. it all starts with having a good decent safe place to call home. >> okay. let's switch gears. there's been a lot of talk about what offerice you might hold next,

perhaps a run for the white house with hillary clinton, something or like being on the ticket. any big announcement you want to make here on "politics nation". >> i don't want to make any big announcement today, though thank you for asking. i have found in life if you do a great job with what is in front of you, that that opens up other opportunities ahead. and so i don't know what the next few years is going to hold for me personally but i can tell you that in these nine months that i've been here at hud, i get a big kick out of knowing that the work that we're doing is helping a whole bunch of folks out there in our country have greater opportunity in their lives because i feel like i've been very blessed in my own life to go through the public schools and so reach my dreams of becoming a professional and getting involved in public service, and i love seeing that in the lives of other people. so i'm trying to do a great job with what i have in front of me

here at hud, and i think that that will take care of the future. >> well, you're doing a great job for sure secretary of housing and urban development. >> thank you. >> julian castro. and thank you for being one of our speakers at the national action network convention this week. >> it was a pleasure to do that. >> thank you, thank you. straight ahead, we're learning more about hillary clinton's rollout plans and her go small strategy. is it the right call? and we have some breaking news on that police beating caught on tape in san bernardino california. the fbi is launching an investigation to determine whether civil rights were violated. forget about it. tylenol was ok, but it was 6 pills a day. but aleve is just 2 pills all day. and now, i'm back! aleve.

time now for "conversation nation." joining me tonight is liz plank, jason johnson and msnbc contributor victoria defrancesco soto. thank you all for being here tonight. >> glad to be here. >> thanks, rev. >> we start with news that hillary clinton will launch her campaign as early as sunday. "the washington post" reporting her approach will be to think small and focus on iowa new hampshire, south carolina and nevada saying advisers think, quote, the go-slow, go-small

strategy plays to her strengths allowing her to meet voters in intimate settings where her humor, humility and policy expertise can show through. but is this the right approach? nbc's first read said there's a risk to this go-small strategy. it lacks a message. victoria is this a possible strategy that is risky? >> i disagree with first read. here we need to go slow and steady. she's so far ahead of everybody else. at least 40 points in the democratic field. she needs to connect with voters. she doesn't need a big splashy campaign. if you're martin o'malley maybe that's what you need. but she needs to get into the setting and show that emotional side and the humility we've been talking about. because there have been issues with hillary clinton being seen

as a little steal, a little rough. but if she can get one on one with folk she already has name recognition, she already has money. now about making that connection and the message can be wlilgtsed down further as we go into the coming months. we still have about 500 days left to the presidential campaign. >> jason, isn't it a lot of campaigning media, how does the media focus in if there's just a series of small encounters? there's not a lot of drama in that. >> there will be people who want to watch. look, i'm going to go through all the political speech here and be honest about what's going on. lots of people think hillary clinton isn't warm they don't think she's friendly. you can't humanize yourself if people have watched you for 20 years. she's going to these small places because she doesn't answer questions very well. because she doesn't want to be under a lot of press scrutiny. because hillary clinton has never had the charm, the connection or the empathy of barack obama bill clinton or even george bush. this is a way of avoiding the press for a while at least until the heat gets too big when we

get to the primary season. >> liz, will it work? >> yeah i have to agree. this is not her first rodeo. she ran before and she made some mistakes and she's learning from them and she's not going to make them again. that's what gives her an edge. she's done this before. and in 2008 retail politics helped president obama get elected. it helped him become the candidate for the democratic party. we've seen rand paul and ted cruz make these big grand announcements and that didn't really work well especially when you think about young voters. if you look at yikyak the anonymous twitter platform. a lot of the comments are best ted talk ever. people don't resonate with that kind of message. i think she's smart to do it smaller this time. >> what does hillary's news mean for joe biden? will this end speculation of a possible run for president for himself? the draft biden movement is out with a campaign a new one, that biden is in the headlines for

something else. michael bloomberg's daughter posted this picture of biden with her son saying quote, what's a boy to do when the vice president steals your pacifier? jason, we'll talk politics in a moment, but how great is that picture? >> i think the picture is awesome. it's why i want joe biden to run. he has to run. he is so much fun. there will be a picture like this of him every week at car washes, at pep rallies, kissing babies. >> everywhere. >> taking their candy. it will be great. >> liz, does he end this? does this stop the draft biden and come out with a new ad does this take the air out of that? >> there are so many pictures out there. the uncle joe photos. i think this is particularly one that's probably more funny than sort of creepy. i think there's been some that have made people feel uncomfortable, especially in his relations to women. again, we weren't there in those moments, but some of those photos out there make you want to look twice.

sure, he's authentic, he's goofy, funny, he's a guy you want to go have a beer with but i'm not sure he's someone you want to vote for. i think he's going to have to work against that image. >> what do you think? does he have a chance or now that hillary comes it's all over and just ride out your vice presidency. >> first of all, i think it was courageous to take that pacifier from the baby. that's something i would never do. look, what does he have to lose if he runs? he gets more publicity. he can get bigger speaking fees some more books. he has nothing to do in going forward. and he loves politics. he loves the spotlight. this is fun for him. so if i were a betting woman, i would say joe biden throws his hat into the race. >> as one of the most be loved and reviled crazes of the 21st century. the selfie. from the clintons' group shot with jimmy kimmel to ellen's

epic oscar selfie to even the president of the united states in on the stick action. but one 2016 hopeful is coming out with a bold and party platform. ben carson is calling for people to abandon the selfie imploring people to quote, please stop saying selfies wreak of quote, obvious narcissism. jason. can you get behind this campaign? >> i don't know what he's doing. first of all, he's a medical doctor. he's not a psychiatrist. i don't need his psychological evaluation. >> but is it narcissism? >> no it's not. it seems like he's running for grumpy next-door neighbor. i don't know why he's confusing isis and ferguson voters and protesters. obviously ben carson doesn't know what he's doing. he has new clue what he's doing. >> a lot of time but liz,

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an fbi investigation is now under way for possible civil rights violations in california. after a brutal police beating was caught on tape by a knbc chopper showing san bernardino county police catch an identity theft suspect after a wild chase on horseback. >> here we go. here's the deputy chasing him. deputy fell down. oh, you shot him with a taser? here we go here we go. suspect being tased. suspect being tased. >> officers then kick and punch the suspect on the ground with his hands behind his back. knbc counted as many as 11 officers surround the man kicking him 17 times, punching

him 37 times and striking him with a baton four times. the man did not move for 45 minutes. he had no medical attention after the two men had beat him. the suspect, a 30-year-old first led police on a vehicle pursuit before abandoning it for a stolen horse. >> well obviously it's disturbing. i'm not sure if there was a struggle going on with the suspect. it appears there was in the early parts of the video. what happens afterwards i'm not sure of. but we will investigate it thoroughly, and if there's any misconduct on behalf of the part of our deputy sheriffs we'll deal with that appropriately. >> that video came out after the cell phone video dominated headlines all this week showing walter scott shot and killed by an officer in south carolina with his back turned running away. we simply can't rely on citizens with video cameras.

we must have national legislation, we must have justice department oversight. we cannot depend that someone will be around with a video to assure justice. justice should be something that we can expect even when it's not on camera. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. have a great weekend. "hardball" starts right now. turn out the bally who boys. hillary's coming. let's play "hardball." h who boys. hillary's coming. let's play "hardball." o who boys. hillary's coming. let's play "hardball." o who boys. hillary's coming. let's play "hardball." who boys. hillary's coming. let's play "hardball." ho boys. hillary's coming. let's play "hardball." o boys. hillary's coming. let's play "hardball." boys. hillary's coming. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. for seven years the country has waited for this friend foe and yes, those few in the middle. the long prophesized second presidential campaign of hillary clinton and now it's upon us. this sunday the former first