cameras. we must have national legislation, we must have justice department oversight. we cannot depend that someone will be around with a video to assure justice. justice should be something that we can expect even when it's not on camera. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. have a great weekend. "hardball" starts right now. turn out the bally who boys. hillary's coming. let's play "hardball." h who boys. hillary's coming. let's play "hardball." o who boys. hillary's coming. let's play "hardball." o who boys. hillary's coming. let's play "hardball." who boys. hillary's coming. let's play "hardball." ho boys. hillary's coming. let's play "hardball." o boys. hillary's coming. let's play "hardball." boys. hillary's coming. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. for seven years the country has waited for this friend foe and yes, those few in the middle. the long prophesized second presidential campaign of hillary clinton and now it's upon us. this sunday the former first lady new york senator and

secretary of state will put out a video declaring her presidential intentions. reports say she'll file the declaration with meetings with small groups of voters. tonight we look at the how and the why hillary clinton is doing this and how nasty it's already getting from left as well as right. we knew it would be tough. today we light the way as brightly as we can from here all the way to iowa and that clincher we expect in new hampshire next year. we show you how successful campaigns like this have started before. it's going to be a big night especially for the hillary partisans who have waited so long for this great enterprise to begin anew. i'm joined by anne guerin political reporter with "the washington post," howard fineman, global director of the huffington post and reporter perry bacon. i'll start with you. you're on this case. it looks like it's starting. not why now because it's the right time. it's april. but why this way? a video followed up by apparently small meetings with people without a lot of press around?

>> well because they're doing the opposite of what a lot of the republicans are doing right now, which is to go big. they want to go small they want as many people as possible to see the initial part of it so it will be online. she'll probably tweet because that's her preferred medium of late. she'll tweet and release a video. she released a video in 2007. we're sure this will be significantly better than that. rather than follow up with a big rally and glitzy thing with television cameras in tow, she'll do deliberately small events in iowa living rooms and coffee shops which the campaign better showcases her strengths in terms of being a policymaker and a problem solver and a listener and will help dispel they hope the whole kind of juggernaut inevitability train which has dogged her, as you say, for basically seven years since the last one fell apart. >> almost like israel in a way

that sunday's become the big news day. because everybody watches television on sunday. you got madam secretary, the good wife we got mad men back "60 minutes" which is always out there, all the sunday talk shows. if she rolls this baby out sunday morning, everybody who is aware of life on this planet's going to know she's running for president. >> i think everybody was already aware of that i would say. also "veep" on sunday another show that really fits into this. a big one, too. this is a really smart approach to it. the big speech focusing on your ability to give big speeches and, two, it raises the question of what is her big, huge message? i think doing it in a gradual way is smart. this is obama's speaking skills she can be more gradual and talk in a more intimate setting. a good smart approach. >> howard, i want you to weigh in here heavily. we've watched rocky declarations of late. her book tour didn't start out with terry gross coming at her

and diane sawyer coming at her from the center and left and this week we saw with rand paul the sharp shooting that went on with savannah guthrie and everybody else tackling the guy in his first step out of the gate. so this is risk-free pretty much. >> well, and this is a i don't think so much about avoiding confrontational moments with the press corps, i don't think it's about that. it's more about the fact that she wants to run this time -- at least according to people around her that i've talked to -- to oversimplify slightly a civil-minded grandma. forget the fact she was first lady of arkansas first lady of the united states senator of new york secretary of state, she's a new grandmother, newly refreshed and concerned about the future of the planet. she just wants to go listen to people and be humble about it. more like the way she ran for the senate. remember when she ran for senator of new york.

low key because she knew she couldn't come off as a big shot. she wanted to be miss local. she will take that strategy this way. that's exactly how she'll approach it. civic minded grandma. >> how many centrifuges does civil minded grandma support in iran? and how long can you carry this metaphor metaphor? i like it. it's comfy, but maybe goes into the strato fear of things we argue about. >> she can't hold it for long but they hope it's a nice way to start. >> i agree. it's true to her. >> well right. to the extent that she really is -- >> i'm married to a grandmother, we know grandmothers their particular personality develops in that time of life. >> you might see a little bit of baby charlotte here at the outset. >> what policies she talks about in this video is what i want to see. talk about being the first woman president, foreign policy, the minimum wage paid leave?

>> let her talk. >> it will be more generic. >> she's got a new edition of her book out. she posted a new epilogue on huffington post writing about her granddaughter charlotte. she offers clues on the message she'll use in her run for president. she writes i have always believed that every child should have the chance to live up to his or her god given potential. that principle has animated my entire career. now as a grandmother, i believe it even more passionately. unfortunately, too few of the children born in the united states today and around the world today will not have a chance and you should shouldn't have to be the granddaughter of a president or secretary of state to receive excellent health care education and enrichment. as a kid, roman catholic first time seems like nothing now. but it was an issue back then. everybody wondered how it would hurt or help.

it helped in the big states and probably hurt him in states like kentucky and ohio. in other states it helped him. so it may have been a wash. look at this number for hillary. you never know if people are being honest about this. a vote for hillary because it would be the first female president. does not much matter to me 83%. is that true or just a good thing to say showing that you're gender neutral? >> i suspect when we finally get to people voting it will be somewhat less than that. but that number is -- >> you mean people admit that it's more. >> right. but more people saying that it isn't a big deal than those for whom it is a big deal has been the trend for quite a while now. >> is it a wash? >> it more or less i think it is. >> well that's progress. that's progress for a woman. it's a wash. >> because she ran the first time now it's not new. however, interestingly she's going to emphasize it more this

time than last time. they were a bit afraid of it. they were afraid it would make her look too soft. so she stressed her capability -- >> you think it's a wash or a -- older women our age, my age i think it's a help. it's a plus. >> i think it's a wash and the democratic breakthrough politics as has to a certain extent been devalued by the fact that barack obama was such a historic figure last time around. the sensationalism of a-ha we're breaking a barrier here has been lessened just a little bit by the passage of time and the fact that obama was elected. >> people tend to lie on questions like that. that said i do think it is an asset. harry reid said that people do want to break the next historical barrier. you may see an increase in women's vote where it would help. >> i want this to be nice. the guy has to have a little something extra to beat her. >> and you can't say certain

things about her. >> be careful i say this, but i think attacks on hillary can boomerang. it happens. here are a few moments from hillary clinton's 2008 campaign. let's watch. >> i'm running for president and i'm in it to win it. when you are attacked you have to deck your opponent. you know i have so many opportunities from this country. i just don't want to see us fall backwards. over the last week i listened to you, and in the process i found my own voice. now together let's give america the kind of comeback that new hampshire has just given me. although we weren't able to shatter that highest, hardest glass ceiling this time thanks to you it's got about 18 million

cracks in it. >> so much emotion in those pictures. i remember every moment. it was when she thought she was going to beat him. when she thought she was going to lose to him. when she beat him and then later on when she lost to him. all the cycle of that campaign. it was a thrilling campaign. reminding ourselves as we all should, you didn't know who was going to win that one for a long time. >> right. and that's actually this time out a bit of a problem for her because it's not any secret who's going to win the democratic primary unless something really untoward happens. >> can the "post" report that now? i agree with you. i'm teasing. we just know what the facts on the ground are. we know. >> but i covered her campaign. she got better. and i thought she started off pretty weak but by the 18 million speech i was in the room. that was move. when she was in ohio and texas, she connected with voters like she didn't in iowa.

the biggee factorst factor is there's no iraq war. she ran a strong campaign. >> next time we meet together the four of us hillary will be in the race it will have started and we'll be talking about the presidential campaign going on right now that's so great. we love that thank you. we like the season and it's coming. anyway this weekend anne gearan howard fineman, i love it. going global. when we come back what we can learn from successful launch of winning president. we'll show you to the role model in a minute. and how she can beat back the most nasty knocks against her. because the rivals have already started. here they are. >> benghazi-gate, e-mail-gate, hillary clinton has more gates than a south texas cattle ranch. >> with attacks like that from

wayne lapierre coming already on the day before she's even announcing this weekend and both from the right and the left you're not going to believe some of the knocks already thrown against her. plus the united states senator mike lee of utah will be with us. he says the constitution has been willfully subverted by the congress, by the president, by the supreme court. he makes his case here tonight. you can argue with him as you watch. finally let me finish with this historic moment from watching this weekend in american politics. this is "hardball," the place for politics. the beautiful sound of customers making the most of their united flight. power, wi-fi and streaming entertainment. that's... seize the journey friendly.

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candidacy for the presidency of the united states. >> welcome back to "hardball." hillary clinton is expected to launch her second bid for the white house this sunday. but is it possible to understand where a campaign is going based on where it starts? i think so. back in february 2007 on one of the coldest days ever illinois senator barack obama made clear why he was running for president. opposition to the war in iraq was a big part of it. here he is. >> i opposed this war from the start. i thought it was a tragic mistake. it's time to admit that no amount of american lives can resolve the political disagreement that lies at the heart of someone else's civil war. >> as hillary clinton runs to succeed her 2008 rival and former boss president obama, what will we learn from her presidential announcement and what direction does she want to take the country. roger simon and susan page susan, do you think -- obama made it clear. i'm running against that damn

war in iraq that nitwit made us fight that war. will hillary clinton have as sharp a statement on why she wants to be president? >> the risk for her is with this approach that she's taking is that she won't make a clear statement. the biggest imperative she has is not to convince people she's a nice person or to talk about her new granddaughter but to say this is why i should be president in your life this is what i will do for you, this is my vision for the country. it's easier to do that in a big speech, big forum, than in these softer. >> what about her book which talks about being a grandmother and wanting every kid in america to have the advantages of her granddaughter, charlotte, which is a hell of a commitment a great commitment a great society commitment. >> this is about her 18th chance to make a first impression. she's redoing herself yet again and it's a good image.

it's softening her. >> it's real. she is a grandmother. >> and it's a human thing that everyone can understand. it is not necessarily the true hillary clinton. not necessarily has anything to do with how you would be president, but it works. >> then-arkansas governor bill clinton announced his campaign for the presidency in little rock in 1991 promising to turn the country around and be a champion for the working middle class. i think this is a good leading indicator of bill's presidency. >> we've got to turn this country around and get it moving again. we've got to fight for hardworking middle class americans for a change. >> people work hard and play by the rules. there it was. i'm going after the regular person working hard not keeping up with costs. i'm not that aloof george herbert walker bush from walker point, maine. >> and it seems to me the announcements that work best are when you actually get a sense of the authentic person. when the person is who they are

and they're not trying to be somebody else. they're not trying to answer some question that's been raised about them or address some vulnerability. that's what you saw with bill clinton. that's what you saw with barack obama and his announcement speech. >> the fact that we call him bubba tells you everything you need to know about bill clinton. he went to ivy league schools and is a rhodes scholar but he's a kid from arkansas almost from the wrong side of the tracks. >> here's what you get from a big announcement speech. springfield, sub zero tens of thousands, bubba clinton, thousands of people. the speaker draws energy from the crowd. every speaker you talk to every presidential candidate talks about i felt the crowd, the crowd brought me up. when you're doing it on videotape, when you're doing it in a living room with 12 or 20 people, you don't get that energy. >> it is the way you want it. >> it's the way she wants it because -- >> let's look at george herbert walker bush. he did what hillary clinton has

to do now, run for a new presidency following a couple of presidencies of your own political party. you're changed but you're not really an assault on what's been going on. here he is making a bid for a third political term ronald reagan planning to stay the course actually. >> i'm following a great presidency and a great president. ronald reagan returned dignity and good sense to the high office he holds. >> well that was easy. and the reason he won, one of the big reasons besides destroying -- because of willy horton and all that because it was pretty good times politically. >> he could say i'm offering you a third term of reagan. >> will hillary say this is a great presidency and a great president? >> president obama has fervent supporters where you can't say what he did was bad, on the

other hand, a lot of americans want change. >> hard to do this. george sr. would say things like a kinder gentler. he didn't mean kinder and gentler than mike dukakis. he meant than ronald reagan a honored huh he conducted the last campaign on the willy horton stuff. the difficulty for secretary clinton is that she does not want to be the third term barack obama, definitely. on the other hand -- >> she can't say that. >> she can't criticize. >> she can't say that. >> she even has a special difficulty. >> does she want to be bill clinton's third term? are you sure? >> she would be delighted to be bill clinton's third term. >> you think so? >> she may be bill clinton's third term. we were in different economic times. barack obama is a different thing. she cannot insult barack obama because she can't insult african-american voters. >> will she be like clinton?

free trade, reform different programs? >> free trade, yeah. >> she'll go with that yes? she'll go with tpp, the big trade thing? >> i think, i mean you can ask her but i think she'd go for that. that fits her -- >> that's the questions i would ask and she doesn't have to answer them for the first week or so. because the first thing we'll ask her is where are you on trade? and where are you on charter schools? are you with randy winegarten, with them or the reformers? these are tough questions for people. >> where are you with the wall street banks? >> are you going to break with elizabeth warren or be your own person? >> it will be middle class, middle class. >> it will be a tough debate. up next senator mike lee of utah. he says the u.s. constitution is being subverted. he's coming here next to make his argument. this is going to be interesting. discover card. hey, i heard you guys can help me with frog protection? sure, we help with fraud protection.

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welcome back to "hardball." there have been many constitutional fights waged including the highly anticipated supreme court ruling coming up on gay marriage that's likely to come down i hear now in june. but one lawmaker in washington says the congress, the president, even the supreme court itself often gets the constitution wrong. senator mike lee of utah makes the case in his new book "our lost constitution the willful subversion of america's founding documents" going back to the constitutional convention in philadelphia senator lee explore exploresexplore explores several constitutional provisions through history, provisions that he now says are viewed as a nuisance by many in washington. i'm joined by the author, senator mike lee. this is going to be lively. because most of our lives, my life has been taken up by what are called landmark decisions by the supreme court. the brown case in '54, segregation in schools can't

work because young african-american kids would look at dolls and we prefer white dolls over black dolls which meant they got the message from school that they were inferior. this isn't written in the constitution but it was a decision by the court back then. of course you have the civil rights act of 1964 which passed constitutional review based on what's called the interstate commerce clause which allows the federal government to go into the littlest store and gas station and say you cannot be discriminatory against black people because we say so. in your book you say that's covered by the tenth amendment and should have been covered by the states. we have roe v. wade where justice scalia said they discovered it it was never written in a law. progressives would say based upon finding things seeing things that are inherent that weren't written but you say we should go back to only what's written. >> well, with respect to the civil rights act of 1964 that's justifiable and should have been

justified under section five of the 14th amendment. that would have been the more appropriate way to do it. it gives more dignity to the civil rights movement to do it that way. brown versus board of education, the right reasoning, the right conclusion. >> where does it say in this document the u.s. constitution that you can't have separate but equal schools? for years they got away it's separate but equal, it's okay. >> but it was wrong because separate isn't equal and separate can't be equal. you're treating people differently based on race. that's why brown versus board of education was right. >> if you had sat on the jury if you had been a judge on the warren court you would have voted to outlaw separate but equal? >> absolutely. >> you would have voted to accept the constitutionality of the civil rights act of '64? >> yes. >> i think your colleague has a little more problem with that. >> which colleague? >> rand paul. he's had a few burps over that. i understand because i was around at that time and i remember the arguments. the arguments were you got to do

it this way because we'll never get three-quarters of the states. this is the only way to do it. we'll stretch the interstate commerce clause and get it done that way. >> the same argument finds more support under section five of the 14th amendment. that's what it was intended to do. >> which phrase? >> section five of the 14th amendment is there to make sure that congress has the power to pass sort of protective legislation, to make sure that the purposes of the 14th amendment are carried out including the equal protection clause. >> even in the private sector? >> yes. >> let's look ahead, gay marriage this summer. do you think it will happen? i keep hearing 6-3 with roberts who you're no fan of. >> it wouldn't surprise me. it wouldn't surprise me to see a 5-4 decision. >> where do you find protection of gay marriage or acknowledgment of it? >> that's the issue before the court. the argument made by those seeking that outcome here is that it's under the equal protection clause. i don't believe that clause covers that i nonetheless do

believe the court's likely to rule that way either by 5-4 or 6-3. >> this follows the lawrence case liberty, too. aren't there a lot of factors here? struck down the sodomy clause? >> that's one of the reasons that the court's headed in that direction. if you look at lawrence v. texas in 2003 or 2004. >> where would you vote 6-3, for or against it recognizes gay marriage? >> i don't think it's in the constitution. i don't believe the equal protection clause addresses that particular issue. again, i think the court is likely to -- >> could you argue inherently it's discriminatory towards people born gay not to allow them to bond? >> some of that depends on the definition of marriage and the traditional definition of marriage has always been something that is up to the states to decide. each state ought to be able to decide on its own what marriage is. marriage historically traditionally has been a union between a man and a woman. >> but historically it was a union between people of the same

race. >> correct. >> in our legal system you couldn't marry across the racial line now you can legally. virginia had the law against that. >> loving versus virginia was the case that decided that. those who were advocating for that outcome -- >> it is a dusty old document that must be adhered to in terms of original intent. because this high school debating point. air force, where is that in here? there's no air force in there. there's an army and navy and the navy includes the marines but the army air corps was okay but when they created a separate force called the air force, where is that in here? they didn't have airplanes back then. >> i think it's just fine because it contemplates our armed services defense structure. >> it doesn't have to be literal? >> it doesn't have to be literal. but the application is sufficiently broad. there's nothing in there that talks about the faa or the fcc, the ability to regulate interstate air waves. >> is that the post office? >> no, more of the application

of the commerce clause. they're unavoidable national. you need federal law. >> i keep thinking the gun case is never far away from the -- d.c. versus howard in which you have the right to own a handgun in your house. you live out in the middle of kansas and have a shotgun in the house. fine, you're not going to kill anybody unless they bother you probably. but this question about the right to bear arms as a straight right separate from the need to have a militia, how did that get separated? because we grew up with the idea you were allowed to have a gun because you had to have a gun ready to join the militia with. it was part of your right to yoin the militia. but that's now been separated. apparently kennedy did separate it. you can have a gun if you are going to join a militias. there's no militia in d.c. are you on with that ruling? >> yes -- it's an individual right. this goes back not to that

ruling a few years ago in the heller case. this goes back to 1791 at the time of the bill of rights including the second amendment was ratified. it goes back further than that. >> my next question if you're a literalist, an original intent person, why do you ignore the militia part of that phrase of that sentence? it's all in one sentence. >> yes, it's all in one sentence but we're also told the right to bear arms exists. >> the need for a militia makes the right to bear arms. >> there is also the need for a militia. >> it didn't say also. it doesn't say also. >> the way the early militias were formed was that the individual citizens having arms exercising their right to bear arms were able to come forward with their own guns with their own ammunition. >> why did they even say militias was a right in itself? why bring it up? if the original intent was just to give people the right to bear

arms, why talk about the need for militia? >> i think it had to do with the fact that militias were formed by free individuals with their own arms coming together for their common defense. >> thank you. this argument will go on throughout the history of our republic. i hope it never stops. the book is called "our lost constitution." senator mike lee, an intellectual in the united states senate. up next -- does that hurt? >> not too much. >> the attacks on hillary clinton are coming from both the right and the left. which ones have the most bite and how will hillary defend herself? the roundtable is up next. you could sit at your computer and read all about zero-turn mowers. click. scroll. tweet. or you could just sit on a john deere z435 eztrak and feel its power. you'll know it'll get the job done fast. when it's time to pick a mower you've got to get on one. visit your local john deere dealer for a test drive today. sign up to take your turn on a z435 and save 100 dollars on

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i'm page hopkins and here's what's happening. president obama made a surprise visit to the panama canal before heading to the summit of the

americas in panama city. he called the canal a testament to human ingenuity and vision. illinois' governor has declared two counties disaster areas after devastating storms tore through the middle of that state killing two people. college basketball player lauren hill has passed away at 19 after a battle with brain cancer. she raised a million dollars for pediatric cancer research. now back to "hardball." you want me to go there? all right. all right. let's do it. whitewater, yeah you can't make it up. whitewater-gate, cattle-gate, gen gennifer flowers gate trooper-gate paula-jones gate vince foster-gate. helicopter-gate, white house

coffee-gate. pardon-gate, illegal gift-gate, monica-gate. benghazi-gate. e-mail-gate, wiped server-gate. hillary clinton has more gates than a south texas cattle ranch. >> well that was the most worked on performance i've seen in a while. that was nra executive vice president wayne lapierre hitting all the hard right's fund zones or erog nus zones in his attack on hillary clinton today. as they say all is fair in love and war, but with hillary clinton set to enter the field we'll see one hell of an assault on ft. hillary. the clintons are capable of launching one hell of a ponce. this was her philosophy the last time she ran for president. >> when you are attacked you have to deck your opponent. and that is what i believe. >> you have to deck your opponent. not slap them not hit them don't smack them deck 'em. the attacks from the right and

the left are coming rapid fire. they're going after her time as secretary of state of course her use of private e-mails, her ties to wall street her vote for the iraq war, you name it. and rand paul has dropped this sugar plum into the water for reporters when fox's carla cameron asked him a question about hillary clinton. >> i think there is big news coming on the clinton foundation. i think there are things that went on at the clinic foundation that are going to shock people and i think they're going to make people question whether or not she ought to run for president. >> can you tell us what you're talking about? >> then it wouldn't be a secret any more carl. it's a secret by now. >> there's a politician trying to lead the press to water. anyway, the roundtable tonight, sam stein, april ryans author of "the presidency in black and white." there it is a great book. betsy woodruff for the daily

beast. let's talk about hillary's ability to punch back. a great rapper i heard about who said who he gives me burdens also gives me shoulders. does heshe have the shoors to s does heshe have the shoors to shoulders to take the punishment. >> let the haters be -- >> we need more maxims. let her haters be her motivators? >> that's the line. >> she's got a lot of motivation. >> absolutely. she's been dealing with this for most of her political career. the big question is will the people criticizing her, will they undermine their own criticisms? for instance wayne lapierre goes after hillary and makes jokes about texas cattle-gates will people get distracted and focus more on the messenger than the message? >> she's got shoulders. i ran intoers kin bowls in

chicago and he's working with hillary clinton and he'll do everything to make her the next president of the united states. >> that's become bbs's former chief of staff. >> yes. >> left of the party, the democratic party respond to her nomination right now? on cbs yesterday elizabeth warren gave a measured i would say careful statement. let's watch her. interpret her, sam. >> do you think she's the future of the democratic party? >> well i think we have to see, first of all, if she declarses and what she says she wants to run on. that's the interesting question. i'll tell you where i stand on all of the key issues. it's up to others to say whether they stand there as well or in a different place. i'll tell you where i stand on minimum wage equal pay for equal work -- >> name me one thing that you would like to see hillary clinton do and say and commit to that she has not committed to. >> well i'd like to see her

address all of these issues. >> in other words, be me. every one of her issues she wants her out there as the champion on. that wasn't an endorsement there. what's warren up to politically? >> she wants to maximize her leverage without jumping into the presidential race. >> what is this if she announces. she said if hillary announces? >> i guess she had to wait a few hours to get the announcement. the worst thing they can do is be flattering towards clinton. she wants to drag them towards her ideology in the party. she says hillary needs to do more -- >> i have seen this before. and it will kill them. >> i do not perceive a situation in which -- >> you drag somebody over to the hard left against their natural political instincts and they lose position in the center and they give away ten votes for every one they pick up. you have to follow the position where you're instinctively

headed. you don't move over because someone is scaring you. >> they've been enormously successful getting republicans in congress to move their direction. we see the democratic party move more to the center. >> is that better government? is that what we want? >> we're not talking about better government. we're talking about basic strategy. >> would help hillary clinton win the presidency? >> this is what i will say. >> it might move her to the left. >> i'll disagree. >> of course. no surprise. >> i don't see a left/right divide. >> people always say that when they're on one side or the other. >> i saw ted cruz saying there are two americas. who made that famous? john edwards. >> barack obama. 2009. >> it was mario cuomo. >> mario cuomo, too. that's a populist rhetoric from ted cruz. it's not necessarily right or left. >> but when does it come to the party instead of personal agendas. when does it come to where it's all about the parties and pushing the party's agenda

forward? when does it become that instead of this is what i want? i think we should look at the economy. >> hillary clinton has struggled to define her legacy as secretary of state. take a look at this. >> when you look at your time as secretary of state, what are you most proud of? >> i really see my role as secretary, in fact leadership in general in a democracy as a relay race. you run the best race you can run. you hand off the baton. some of what hasn't been finished may go on to be finished. >> people say where is the marquis achievement. no sweeping agreement, no significant doctrine. >> we haven't had a doctrine since containment worked with the soviet union. but we've had presidents who have made some tough calls, some hard choice some of which have worked and some of which have not. >> apparently the friendly or neutral reporter will ask the best journalistic question.

roger mudd asked ted kennedy why he wanted to be president. 70 words later it was restoration. he wanted to bring back camelot. diane sawyer terry gross was tough on hillary. maybe that's why she's going to talk to regular people next week because she's not talking to us. more pleasant perhaps. >> if anything this highlights the fact that it will be tricky for her to target her record as secretary of state. while she was secretary of state they took money from foreign governments. >> they've had a lot of time. all these years to think about her major accomplishments. why don't they carve them up and say here they are. >> a power point presentation. >> foreign policy is messy. while two years ago it may have seen a draw down from iraq today you don't have a draw down from iraq. >> you say it if you believe it. >> not with isis roaming. >> you cannot take this from her. she was the woman of diplomacy. you have to remember that.

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>> this is mind boggling. >> i didn't say she had brain damage. she had a serious health episode. this will be an issue in the 2016 race whether she likes it or not. >> we're back and the hard right suspect afraid to go nuclear on their attacks on hillary clinton. karl rove suggested at one point hillary clinton might have brain damage, a claim which he walked back. and there are even some who say hillary is a follower of sharia law. why not throw that at her? i'm back with my round table. april, what is this conference zone that people on the right feel they can throw anything they want at her? it's just throw it at her. >> we learned the last presidential election mitt romney had his binder of women.

we are one of the biggest voting blocs in the nation. >> the largest one. >> the bottom line is they're going to beat her up. we're going to see a lot of sexism maybe even racism when it comes to challenging president obama. i think minorities and women are under attack when it comes to certain segments of the republican party. >> is that true? >> you can always find a fringe person. it's unfair to say women are attacking women and minorities. >> i said some. >> we can always find the racist. >> and the sexist. [ all talking at once ] >> the republican party is very -- >> let me join in here -- >> from reince priebus on down they have had a concerted effort in three dozen states to make it

harder for black people to vote and admit that's why they do it. >> you can make that argument -- >> that's a statement of fact. >> voter i.d. polls really well. it has a lot of support with the base. all i'm talking about is a republican strategy. >> you have a white population getting smaller in size against a larger population of people of color. what is your strategy? make it harder for them to vote. >> let me say this. i want to go back to this voter i.d. issue. many african-americans in the south do not have cars. why do they need an i.d. if they don't have a car? it's almost like a polling tax or something along that lines from the '50s and '60s. so we have to go back into that issue again. there is race there are issues of race. >> in the northern part of the city where i am have even white

people live in row houses and don't have cars. >> we're talking the south. >> i'm talking pennsylvania where it was a big issue. >> republicans also went after president obama, also went after president clinton. the idea that they're only going after hillary clinton because she's a women, i'm not sure i can go along with that. >> what's your point of view? >> i'm not -- >> thank you. taking on the latest here on the right is a challenge and you've met it. we'll be right back after this. audible safety beeping the nissan rogue with safety shield technologies. the only thing left to fear is you imagination. nissan. innovation that excites. hey, girl. is it crazy that your soccer trophy is talking to you right now? it kinda is. it's as crazy as you

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we finish tonight with this historic moment in american politics. i think hillary clinton has a sound 50-50 shot at being our next president. this is an extraordinary position to hold at this point, without knowing who the republicans will nominate. there is no candidate on the horizon that can close in on her in the summer of 2016 with a commanding position. i think the country is 50-50. i think the political contest is going to have equal chances for the red or black to win, which in this case is the red or the blue. it's a big day today. let's hope the race for president will come down to differences of true value, not gotcha.

not other wedge issues. but to a reasonable debate between a candidate of the center left, hillary clinton, and one from the right. if on the odd chance the republican candidate comes from the center right, i'll have to adjust my prediction but part of my prediction is it will be a candidate from the further right. that should be very good for hillary clinton. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. tonight on "all in" -- >> suspect being tased. >> a california horse chase turns into a police beating caught on tape. >> it's disturbing. >> tonight, the latest from san bernardino. the latest from south carolina. and the question -- how much do we know about how often police turn vieolentviolent? then hillary clinton is ready for hillary, but is she ready for the press corps? i want your response on something ted cruz said we shou