40% of the lights were out but they're not out for long. they're coming back. getting ready for hillary. all right. good morning to you out there. thanks for getting up with us this saturday morning. a lot ahead on a busy morning. it is full of anticipation because we can finally end -- see the starting line. hillary clinton expected to begin her second run for president this weekend. much more on that ahead in the show today. including the bill clinton factor, the former president, one of the most popular politicians in the country. can that be said when his wife is the candidate?

there were problems last time. will there be again this time? we'll discuss what it means for the rest of the democratic field that now includes one challenger whose name hasn't been talked about pretty much at all until now. he'll be here this morning to explain why he believes hillary isn't the best candidate and why he thinks he can beat her. what does hillary clinton's candidacy mean for republicans? rand paul spent time talking to reporters. and carly fiorina talking about hillary. a rivalry for the ages with a game for the ages last night. who was still standing after the red sox and yankees played for 19 innings. this morning, the sixict grader who aced bracket ology. he's 12 years old and beat out more than 11 million other americans. i was one of them who he beat. he will be here at the big board

to show us how he did it and give us tips for next year. we begin this morning with the announcement that's been anticipated for a long time. hnlt hillary clinton declaring her candidacy for president. her formal entrance into the race expected today come come tomorrow morning. this is a rollout that is designed to be small and gradual. no major speeches expected from clinton. a glimpse wantsof what she might be saying was in a epilogue. the september birth of her granddaughter has made her get back into the race. rather than make me want to slow

down it has spurred me to speed up. the focus of her rollout will be on the voters. a campaign source telling nbc news this will be not a blitz from a slow ramp up over the course of 100 days. after her social media launch tomorrow. clinton will make her way back to iowa for her first in person campaign event of the 2016 campaign. iowa of course is the state where her 2008 campaign began to fall apart after a third place finish. after iowa she will go to new hampshire. that's a state that's been kinder to both clintons. hillary bounced back from her iowa loss and defeated barack obama seven years ago. the clinton campaign is making strides to make this feel different than a presidential run. small scale launch strategy

being praised this morning by the architect of the campaign that beat clinton in 2008. david axelrod saying humility is the order of the day. at 20,000 feet there was a tremendous backlash to that. she begins her second campaign with a clerrer math to her party's nomination than any candidate has had in the modern campaign era. it looks like she may face one opponent in the democratic primaries. the same cannot be say for the republicans. in trying to succeed barack obama, she will be asking voters to give democrats a third straight term in the white house. only once since world war ii have voters given the party three terms. as bill clinton said himself, it's hard for any party to hang

on to the white house for 12 years. joining us now to talk about hillary's launch tomorrow what we can expect in the days and weeks ahead, we have a publisher of the federalist msnbc political correspondent, and another political analyst, along with the national political correspondent for "the new york times" who covered hillary clinton's last campaign in 2008 and is back on the beempt patrick, let's start with you, you watched this unfold in 2008 i'm sure you can remember her launch seven years ago, eight years ago. how do you compare the two? >> yeah. back then it was about strength and leadership. it was about being the first woman president. it was getting out there, trying to talk about how to deal with the iraq war, when she had voted to authorize t. sort of trying to thread that needle. trying to sort of show that she could be a strong commander in chief who would be ready, who

would be ready to protect the country. now, i think she needs to come up with an even more compelling rationale than she had back then. she needs to say why she wants to -- where she wants to lead the country to. without seeming like look i've been around for 25 years. why not run again, this is my time. front runner status got her in so much trouble the last time around. she was the one who stopped holding news conferences and town halls and were just doing big events. she's got to go out as much as possible her people say and talk to voters and make it clear what her rationale is. why she wants to appeal as much to, you know people who care a great deal about income inequality as to the wall street types. >> what do you think of this david? we're not going to get a big policy speech from her h. not any big rallies. she'll go to diners and talk to

small groups of voters. >> hillary has a host of problems. it's a good position to do leading so much. she's going to have to engage voters for a year and a half now. that's a hard thing for anyone to do without becoming tired to the voters. to have them think about her in a creative way and not feel she's saying the same old same old. even if she starts off with a great message, she'll be saying it over and over in different forms. if there's not a democratic primary to give consumers a different story, the story is going to be what is hillary saying, today today today today today today. eventually that will be hard to keep fresh and new and keep people engaged. her. there is no reebsason -- >> there is a reason for that. we'll talk to him later in the show today. >> no. insult -- i meant no insult.

>> i heard it once or twice. i do want to play this. the this was close to the eve of a rollout. elizabeth warren if there's been a clamoring for somebody in particular to run against clinton, it's focused on warren. bill mohr was on last night. this is what happened. >> if you choose to run, and you are the candidate, i will find a way to give you a million dollars. so does -- that change your thinking at all? >> i'm not running for president. >> we can officially say she's out. it is interesting, though what to expect from clinton in terms -- there will be martin o'malley looked like he's going to run.

lincoln chaffee might one. they don't want to have the impression they're taking anything for granted. >> honestly they can't. those primary states were all her dominance. they're small and unpredictable. it's not out of the realm of possibility that something someone else could win one of those states. you just never know with these things. democrats in hollywood are yearning for elizabeth warren i think in particular. i think that that impulse, especially that populist impulse is going to have to play out somehow in the democratic primary. i think for hillary clinton, at this point the question is what policies is she going to roll out that is going to talk to that particular segment of the party? i think that's where the rubber will meet the road. if progressives start to see we're having an impact. hillary clinton is doing some of the things we think elizabeth warren would do. she could help herself with that

particular segment of the party. >> we'll see how available she is to the press, everything that happens in news now, there is pressure on her to comment, to weigh in. it's no longer i'm just deciding what to do with my life. now i want to be president. okay what do you think of the iran dill what do you think of the corker menendez bill. >> these 140 statements she comes out, it's like she considered that sufficient. >> right, her twitter strategy has been interesting. she's picked issues that are like 80/20 issues. >> it's interesting, i think, what you're talking about here is the challenge for any candidate that's operated so long and removed from the voters. you're talking about populist impulses that are there. that's not who she is. she doesn't have that kind of approach. she's going to have to prove she can relate to people on issues that are not important to the 1% or wall street.

she can connect to them about pocket book issues. the problem is i think there's a long time line here that where she's going to have to remain interesting and prove that. i think that's going to be a real challenge. >> she has some capacity to do this. she gave a great speech at the new americas foundation several months ago. in the clinton administration, people on the right criticize her for having been too liberal and too populist on some of the issues that cake up on free trade and well fare reform. i think when it comes to some of her policies she's towards that side of the policy. at the same time she has fun raised with goldman sachs. and she hasn't been as tough on the banks as elizabeth warren has. i don't think it's an impossible task. i think it's a different one. >> the other side of it too, look, republicans are going to spend the next year and a half when they're not nighting each

other attacking hillary clinton. >> you think? >> you want a preview, the rnc already has first hillary attack. this is what they'll be putting out there. >> hillary clinton has explaining to do. >> relations with russia. >> not really working out well. >> potentially catastrophic move for hillary clinton. >> millions of dollars for foreign governments. >> landing under sniper fire it was a lie. >> what difference at this point does it make? >> this is just parfor the course for the clintons, they're secretive. >> that's uplifting. the republicans what they're looking at when you put them against the leading republicans. what you see she does have sizable leads nationally over the most likely republican opponents, about seven, eight points on average.

nationally she starts off in a inveiable position here. the history of this country when it comes to third terms, we seem queasy about keeping the same party in there. >> it's a high hurdle. the haunted house, the scary spooky hillary, it brings up real issues. how is she going to define herself compared to barack obama. as much as compared to the republicans. it seems like that's one of her her short term challenges right now. it's to figure out a way to kind of thread the needle to talk about the economy, wage growth jobs in a way that -- there has to be some criticism. i think of what's going on over the eight years. she has to find some way -- >> isn't there an issue where she can do that? >> i don't think it's criticism. i think she has to say obama dealt with an economic crisis. got to a certain point, not as far as we need to go this is how we go further. >> the question is -- she's

going to be put on the spot. she'll have to -- give us an example. >> foreign policy. she'll throw obama under the bus on foreign policy issues depending on what's happening at the time. >> i think wage growth. there is so many americans who feel like their paycheck hasn't gone up. she may not need to attack the president in that kind of criticism. i think there will be a lot of democrats who will feel like my salary has not gone up in six and a half years. let's talk honestly about that. >> i think competence too. i think that you know when i talk to republicans and democrats, everyone says there's this yearning for -- in 2008 we did hope and change and everybody was optimistic. people view washington as dysfunctional and broken. they want somebody who can argue i can fix this y. can work with the system that's here and make it better. i think hillary clinton is in a pretty good position to be somebody who can make that argument. >> it would be more beneficial for her to have a sparring

partner. even if it was somebody who doesn't have a real shot at it. someone to trade blows with and get herself ready for the general election. >> looking like a winner is one of the best things that come out of a primary for any candidate. having the red balloons coming down, and just showing that you can defeat someone before the general election. >> even if it's. >> bernie sanders who is not yet a democrat. we'll see what happens. there is some interesting stuff happening there. as we see the former rhode island governor may be getting in the race. he will be here in less than a hour. i appreciate you being here. still ahead we'll have more on hillary's new rollout going live to her headquarters. later why a lot of baseball fans didn't get much sleep last night. remember, one of the biggest rivalries. we'll tell you about those 19 classic innings, stay with us trust me as your financial advisor? i would. i would indeed.

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so now is this the ready for hillary gathering? you know we had good news ready for hillary. had their first hire. the head of e-mail security. >> texas senator ted cruz one of the already announced republican presidential candidates at last night's nra convention in naphmistakenaph nashville. taking a shot at hillary clinton. for more on what's happening with hillary clinton's imminent campaign launch we go live to brooklyn outside hillary clinton's campaign headquarters. you're standing in front of the offices of the former occupant of the white house. >> very different backdrops this

weekend. hillary clinton is going to make it official tomorrow. but things are already gearing up at her campaign headquarters here in brooklyn. it's bustling with newly hired staffers, including a lot of top administration officials from the obama campaign including the communications director. i can tell you there's going to be at least one staff meeting today. ahead of that big rollout tomorrow. this is going to be clinton 2.0. it's going to be a retooled campaign. and we're going to see that right from the start. from the rollout tomorrow. clinton is going to make the announcement on twitter sometime tomorrow afternoon. and then she's going to also release a video. the fact that she's using twitter is significant. because you'll recall of course social media really helped sweet president obama into the white house back in 2008. so aides say she's going to make a are robust use of social media to try to reach out to some of the younger voters. unlike 2008 where critics say

she ran as the likely nominee, she's going to shed that heir of inevidentability this time around. she'll get up close and voters right from the start. shaess she's going to head to early voting states like iowa and new hampshire. she'll hold intimate gathering with voters in their living rooms and vfw halls and make some of those personal connections. we're going to see her play up her roll as a mom and as a grandmom. yesterday, she released a new epilogue from her book where she really talked about the experience of becoming a grandmother. polls show that she is trouncing her democratic rivals. things get a lot more difficult for her in a general election. as you pointed out at the top, republicans have seized on the controversy over the fact she used her private e-mail as secretary of state. that is chipping away at her lead in some of the early voting states. that will continue to be an issue for her.

she will have to continue to explain that as well as talk about her record as secretary of state. it all gets started tomorrow. we'll be following it all. >> there is scaffolding in front of that building. it really is being put together as we speak i guess. ahead, the baseball game that took so young, one player was a year older when it ended. can you win the white house while doing this? >> kelly, shhh. >> i'm sorry. >> calm down a little bit kelly. >> rand paul's prickly relationship with the media, will it help or hurt him on the campaign trail?

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>> before we get. >> cut defense spending now you want to increase it i wonder if -- >> why don't we let me explain instead of talking over me okay? before we go through a litany of things you say i've changed on. why don't you ask me a question have i changed my opinion. that would be a better way to approach an interview. >> is iran still not a threat -- >> no. no. listen. you've editoralized. ask me a question. you say my views have said instead of asking. >> that was wednesday, rand paul getting testy with the today show's savannah guthy. he was the same way with another reporter. >> sometimes i think putting in these categories is a mistake. i gave you a five minute answer. >> even yesterday, paul walked out in the middle of a periscope

interview with a reporter from the garden. we're less than a week into his campaign. he has a history of being prickly with reporters. even go far as to shoosh the nbc's kelly evans during than interview with her. clashing with cnbc's reporter back in 2013 about a former aide who made racially insensitive comments. how will rand paul's strained relationship with the press affect his run for president? joining the panel is a media reporter with politico. lit me start with you, look certainly, among politicians, i think they all have a long list of grievances with the media with how questions are asked and stories are written. a lot of those grievances they probably have a point on. when it comes to the republican base there is -- rand paul is standing out for his combatness with the spreszpress. is that an upside or down side?

>> we can't really tell. i wrote an article on monday about how rand paul and the media have no love story. then this week we're seeing that confirmed over and over again in all of these interviews. now, on one hand like you said there are -- his supporters who are probably really love this idea of him bashing the media. david from the atlantic had a great point. we're still talking about him shouldn't we be on to something else? from all of my reporting, this is who rand paul is. in a private setting with reporters, he just doesn't have the patience for them. this sometimes also lends itself to other aspects of campaigning. you know, he said that campaigning for president is absolutely no fun. i've heard from people where he'll walk into a room to give a speech. he'll give a speech and leave. he doesn't work the room or do the rope line that a lot of candidates seem to genuinely enjoy. >> you are nodding at that. >> i had an experience with him just like that back in the last

campaign when he was helping his father ron paul who was running. after the debates in new hampshire the surrogates come into the spin room and ask questions. he was doing that for hid dad. i asked a question about some news letters that come come out under his dad's name who had racist comments and stories. he literally turned his back on me. it's like i can't see you. the next day i try today get at another venue. he did the same them. i don't think it hurts him with voters within the republican base. to her point t shows me what time of guy is he and can he do the campaigning without getting too frustrated. >> it helps him with republican voters. this is the sort of thing they enjoy. >> well megan kelly -- >> let's get you -- >> i want to play this. this is his exchange with megan kelly. she was pressing him on this

point about are you too thin skinned in this campaign. let's play that. >> i do lose my cool. i lost -- i do lose my temper sometimes. i should be better at that. but the thing is you don't get any visual clues. it's much harder to have -- when you're sitting down with someone it's easier to have a reasonable conversation. >> what's your take? >> i think the real thing to understand about rand paul here he is going to be himself in this cycle. he's running as him. i think that that really is something where he has no filter for the kind of -- what he viewed as bs questions from the press. just to correct something about what you said about that guardian interview. he said that was the last question. it was not in the middle. >> he is -- he's flip-flopping and selling things he sold in the past. >> no candidate who has had more access in terms of the press being able to question. >> i wonder if that's about to change. >> i think they have been shutting it down a little bit. my question is what happened

when he stands up on the debate stages. the questions are coming from the moderators and also other people standing on the stage. i think at a certain point, if this ultimately comes through in that kind of a setting, are voters really going to buy that this is somebody that should be president? i think that's is the question that this particular set of exampled -- >> it's one -- that's the thing i wonder too, in terms of how republican voters think about this. it's one things to get their heads nodding -- is this going to work in the general election? >> savannah guthrie's questions were appropriate and good questions. he never answered them. they're questions that are going to come from republicans as well. >> newt gingrich ran his campaign on bashing the media. >> but let me ask you about this, in terms of how the media perceives this when you're asking a question of rand paul

and you're watching one of your colleagues does it have an affect on the press pfsh's coverage of rand paul? is it that we're going to lose access to him if we keep rubbing him the wrong way? how do you think the press is going to handle this? >> on one hand the press is annoyed. there is a good point that rand paul is actually incredible accessible to the media. he does so many interviews and goes on tv shows. that's a good point. that will probably change as the campaign keeps going. the reporters do appreciate that. and the prickliness at some point, it creates more of a story. it is something that they want just there are questions to be answered and they want to be taken seriously. some reports that i've spoken to they say they feel disrespected like rand paul thinks they don't know what they're talking about. that is disrespectful for a

reporter that's been doing this for years. >> the other thing too that was raised is this idea of gender, female reporters, my take on it was i've seen him do this with male reporters, it's just what he does. he doesn't like reporters. >> shooshing a reporter and so on, i think -- i'm not sure he'd do that to a male guy. maybe. we'll give him a chance. >> i've interviewed rand paul on several occasions. i've never encountered. i've tried to press him on points and he said no i didn't say that. you have the quote that he did say that. i find him to be respectful and acceptable. and like -- even more so than many others in this race. >> i would much rather see that kind of back and forth than someone who removes themselves

from the press. >> you look at rand paul he's been the most successful. thank you for getting up this morning, really appreciate that. it is hillary's campaign, but what kind of role will bill clinton have? we'll share reactions to reports that he is on the sidelines. how the nra is positioning itself against hillary's strong words when we come back. but mindy was actually not invisible. ooh, what are you doing? can you see me? she had just always been treated that way. yeah. you don't have to look at me like that. there are worst things than an attractive woman touching your body. i'll go. join the nation that sees you as a priority. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ you're only young once.

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the good guys won. >> i can tell you -- >> it is possible to do this on two hours of sleep. not advisable. >> why do they want to make baseball shorter? the best games are the longest ones. >> they only have 155 more to go after this. this is -- hillary is getting ready to run for president, the republicans gathering for the nra convention in nashville. this is the head of that group reviewing how he will be handling hillary clinton after the next year. >> her history of scandal and controversy, is almost endless. white watergate, cattle gate jennifer flowers gate. nanny gate. lincoln bedroom gate. travel gate. trooper gate. file gate. paula jones gate. vince foster gate. helicopter gate.

white house coffee gate. web hubble hush money gate. pardon gate. illegal gift gate. monica gate. benghazi gate. e-mail gate. wiped server gate. >> that's a nice trip back to 1994. is is. >> what did it have to be with paula jones? >> or jennifer flowers. she's going to bring about this era of deceit and deception. the basic line is game of thrones winter is coming. to bring in vince foster shows how far they're going to go. . that was a tragedy of a guy who got too much press coverage and he killed himself. it's kind of awful. >> it is interesting to me there was -- pause, the sort of the republican to the right hit the

pause buttenon in 2008. >> not only did they hit the pause button. they held her up as the kind of democrat. >> if only obama were -- >> right. yeah. >> now you can play this out. if hillary were to get elected, serve a term. she is nothing like obama was, we could -- >> the craziness back then. jerry fallwell was pitching a video how the clintons said kill dozens of people. i think all of that will come back again. those of us who are old enough to remember are going to have to relive it. "charlie hebdo" wandered into the realm of hate speech. this cartoonists making some interesting comments about that french magazine with the

cartoons about mohammed. he says free speech becomes its own kind of fanaticism. >> it's of a space of this whole conversation that says free speech is an act of violence an act of hate. i think that's a dangerous line to go down. >> i think it's important how you use free speech. for me one of the best lines in that speech and i like gary a lot. is what he says you got to punch up not punch down. and instead of punching down and making fun of people's religions, as opposed to -- not doing it with respect is something to discuss and consider. you have the freedom to do it. you shouldn't be hurt if you do it. but, you know it's not, i think a black and white issue. >> this whole issue of punching up and punching down as it relates to religion. which religions are going to be punching up or down. i think that's a disturbing path to go down in terms of free speech. this is from politico.

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today family and friends will garth to remember walter scott. he's the south carolina man shot and killed by a police officer. the funeral for the 50-year-old kill be held in summerville.

we are live. what's going on there, today? >> good morning. it's exactly one week after the fatal shooting, family and friends will gather here at the church behind me in about two hours to say their final good byes. to say good bye to walter scott. in about an hour he will receive a police escort to the church behind me. last night there was a wake in charleston for the family. the mayor arrived and paid his final expects. at the same time, there was a rally of about 50 people at city hall. the group black lives matter. they want an end to police shootings and want a civilian review board. why did he run from officer slager when it was a routine traffic stop? we're learning more about that. police documents obtained by nbc news indicate he was $18,000 behind in child support payments. his family believes he didn't want to go back to jail. that is why he ran. officer slager remains in jail. he could be there until august. he has hired a high powered

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more now on the big announcement we are expecting tomorrow remember hillary clinton set to launch her second bid for the presidency. bill willhose roll in her last campaign caused his wife

headaches. some attacks on barack obama back fired and triggered a handful of media fire storms. he has resurrected his image. he stole the show at the party's 2012 convention and served as a valuable asset to president obama. this week clinton told town and country magazine if she runs his role should be a back stage advisor until we get closer to the election. her team is devising a strategy to keep him behind the scenes. bill clinton is pushing back on that report. telling politico that the piece was creative writing. what will the former president's role be in hillary's campaign? back with her panel. it's not just rand paul battling with the media. bill clinton has problems too.

it was so interesting to me to watch him in the 2008 campaign. bill clinton in 1992 he led jornl bush sr. the whole way. the primaries in 92 he had hiccups but it was smooth. he was thrown in a position with hillary clinton in 2008 because they were running so far behind. >> i think he saw that with some of the remarks he made. it had a racial connotation to them comparing barack obama to jesse jackson and suggesting he was winning because he was black. that caused a lot of problem. i think the remarks he made to town and country of all places -- >> when you look for political news -- >> it was quite astute. he's a smart guy. he's good at explaining stuff. it's a good political strategist. not be out in front of the

camera, let her do that. at the end of a campaign when you need more than one body. he'll be great to that. if he's already thinking that it will make the campaign manager's job a lot easier to figure out what to do with bill clinton. >> that was one of the things in 2008, there was sort of twin that clinton campaign -- so much has been written how dysfunctional the whole campaign was. there was a bill clinton department in the campaign and a hillary clinton department. and the lack of communication or how they were at cross purposes, it was shocking. >> it's clear it will be very important for the hillary campaign to come up with a bill strategy. they masmanaged it last time. the idea that he's going to stay out of her campaign is ludicrous. its not smart for him -- he's the smartest political mind in a generation, right? to put that on the sidelines is just underutilizing a resource you have. i spent quite a bit of time

covering bill clinton on the trail in 2014. his home state of arkansas was the center of this. he was very disciplined when it came to discussing his wife. he would talk about arkansas politics. but if he got asked about his wife. he said i will get myself in trouble if i say something and he never did. >> i like the idea you can contain bill clinton. that's a fantasy land. he's not going to be contained. he will be out there all the time. i think it's a question of how disciplined he's able to be. he will need to avoid comments that cause nevadanesis cycles for her. that will be a test. he has been treated very well by the media in recent years. he's bounced back from the point he was at. in the context of the campaign there will be different challenge and questions. >> his comeback from -- we show the poll numbers in 2008. bill clinton had his worst ever

numbered since he became a national political figure. there was a poll they polled. barack obama bill clinton, hillary clinton. the most popular was bill clinton. >> there was some questions about the clinton foundation. pictures of him are him going to haiti and working hard to make things good for people who are suffering from the earthquake there. what we know about george w. bush he's painting. the question about commenting on his work as an expresident has been positive. mostly it's a positive story. i bet you, in the coming months we'll see more pictures of bill clinton overseas than we will see him working in iowa or new hampshire. >> there's been more attention this week to the clinton foundation, is that -- does that resonate outside of the press that's covering this? do you think voters are picking

up on that? >> i think it depends on how the story evolves over the course of the next year. it has the potential to be a significant issue for her. obviously, they thought it was important enough in 2008 that they changed the way that they did things. and so they said essentially, that, you know, we think this was the right way to do that. thange they changed that. i think it fits into the narrative the republicans are building about her foreign policy not being correct. you combine that with an narrative of secrecy, i think it's dangerous for them. >> i think that's how much that entered the public consciousness. she writes about her memory quote would look like. if people feel that her quilt is made up from goldman sachs and wall street. it will be something that goes to the insulation factor the 1% factor. >> as opposed to jeb bush and all the corporate super pac

money and the koch brothers. all politics is comparison and hillary clinton will not be without comparison to who ever the republican nominee is. >> it's fine to have that money if the narrative about you as a person is something where you relate to the challenges of normal people. it's not okay to have that -- >> it's funny i used to say before all the scandal and everything. chris christie had what democrats call a top 1% message, but he came across as a 99% messenger. before all this. anyway, another full hour of news and politics is ahead. including look what we have to worry about, a real challenge in the democratic primaries. the new candidate weighing a run, he'll join us at the top of the hour to tell us why he's thinking about taking on hillary. stay with us for that. so wherever your long-term goals take you we can help you feel confident.

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thanks for staying with us this saturday morning. a lot more to come this hour including if it's not going to be elizabeth warren taking on hillary clinton, then who? a new name getting into the mix. he'll be here to tell us all about his potential candidacy minutes from now. also still ahead, how hillary clinton's most fearless adversary is making waves. president obama fornls ahead with a new relationship with cuba. also this hour with a verdict coming this week is it too soon for hollywood to be retelling the boston marathon bombings. we'll examine the 12-year-old who got a a plus in bracket olgy.

he beat 11 million people. we'll get tips from him on how he did it. we begin this hour with the challenge that hillary and everyone else didn't see coming. we are now thought to be just over 24 hours away from hillary clinton's official announcement that she's going to run for president again. numbers paint a mixed picture for her right now. clinton leading all the most likely republican candidates by solid margins in national head to head polls. also new polls in three states this week showing ominous signs in iowa colorado, and virginia saying she isn't trustworthy. that's how she stacks up against republicans. how about her own party? so far the story on the democrat side is about who is not running, like elizabeth warren he has resisted pleas that she challenge clinton. joe biden, the vice president not making any serious moves. the assumption is he would run

in this race if clinton were to stumble and lead it. that has left a handful of long shot democratic challengers to clinton. former maryland governor martin o'malley. vermont senator bernie sanders. he remains a independent, he is not technically a democrat. and jim webb. o'malley and webb are in iowa. >> we still have time. all of us. to be a great generation of americans. and our children and their futures is depending on it. >> we're never going to find an answer in the republican party on issues like economic fairness. and giving people who have no voice in the corners of power the voice that the dakemocratic party has always given them. >> here's a name no one was talking about until 48 hours ago. lincoln chafee. a former senator and governor from rhode island. he took the political world by surprise on thursday when he

threw his name into the mix. >> i'm lincoln chafee. i am a democrat considering a run for president of the united states. >> chafee has only been a democrat for two years. for most of his life he was a republican, a liberal republican. the son of long time rhode island senator john chafee. he was elected to the senate in 2000 defeated for reelection in 2006. he then became an independent, endorsed barack obama for president in 2008. and was elected governor of rhode island in 2010. he switched parties again and registered as a democrat. he is already showing a willingness to attack hillary clinton directly. saying her 2002 vote to authorize military action in iraq saying anyone who voted for war should not be president. he voted against the iraq war in 2002 t. back then he was the only republican in the senate to

cast that no vote. challenge for chafee and every other democrat looking to oppose clinton is an enormous one. a recent nbc wall street poll found that 86% of democrats say they would be comfortable supporting her. she also enjoys a larger lead in polls than any other non-incumbent presidential candidate has ever had in a primary race at this point. lincoln chafee appears ready to give it a shot. he joins us live from providence, rhode island. thank you for joining us. let me start with a basic question. until 48 hours ago i had no idea you were interested in this race. nobody in the media knew you were interested in joining this race. how did you get to the point where you're now saying you might run from president? >> i have also had a passion for national issues and my time serving on the foreign relations committee. after leaving the senate i

worked for brown university watson institute of international studies. and then became governor and focused on state issues. i've always had a passion for national and international issues. i made the decision somewhere in the course of my term as governor that if i finished my term well i'd look at the race. >> you've been thinking about this for a while. one of the things i said in the opening that jumped out at me in the last couple of days listening to you giving interviews is your willingness to attack hillary clinton on the issue of iraq war. her vote disqualified her. she says when i vote today authorize force in 2002 i said it was the hardest decision i have ever had to make. i thought i acted in good faith and made the best decision i can with the information i had. i wasn't alone enin getting it wrong. but i still got it wrong. plain and simple.

why is that not good enough? >> i was looking at the same evidence. i served for the same time in the senate. i made a different decision. elections shed be about adjustment. this is the most critical judgment calls in american history. we just finish would the veetietnam era some would argue. to get back into a quagmire overseas that jeopardized everything we have in the united states, i would argue, as i said a disqualifier to be president of the united states. and certainly a disqualifier to be the democratic nominee. that should be a republican war. >> you said in the last couple days you think hillary clinton is too close to wall street. what do you mean by that. >> raising the money always comes with compromising decisions. i know senator warren has articulated some of these points about senator clinton. but i'm going to really focus on the international issues.

we'll have a lot of similarities and -- i will with senator clinton. >> i want to follow up with the question of wall street. it's a question of judgment in your mind about the involvement in iraq. i'm curious, look at another vote you had to decide when you were in the senate. this is one of your first votes as a senator in 199. this was an issue of -- a law that separated commercial banking. there were a lot of people that the repeal in 1999 led to the too big to fall moment the collapse of the economy. minnesota senator at the time when this was vote was taken saying scores of banked failed in the great depression as a result of unsound banking practice practices. this was intended to protect our banking system. it was one of several

stabilizers designed to keep an similar tragedy from happening. now congress is about to repeal that stabilizer without putting a safe guard in its place. you voted for repealing. >> he voted against the war in iraq. he's one of my heroes. that was the very first vote. my dad had died in office in late october. the governor of rhode island appointed me to his seat in early nvl.earl early november. i arrived not knowing any of the issues. i was running for the senate and learning about the issues. but to know exactly what it was all about -- it was a conference report. the house had passed their version, the senate had passed their version. they compromised and come together on this conference report vote. i believe the vote was 90-6. >> it was a lopicized vote but it did come with warnings uttered on the senate floor that

this is going to lead to mergers between these giant banks on wall street that will make them too big to fail. is it a vote you regret? >> they were right. yes, i do regret that vote. in the context of how i arrived isn't senate after the funeral of my father and walking into his office and the very first vote. very first vote. it was a conference report. it was a lop sized vote. i do regret it looking back. >> i wanted to ask you obviously the iraq war played a huge roll in the election in 2008 and really animated the democratic party. in many ways that's the past. we're eight years removed from that. i'm wondering what is your rationale for running and what would do into the future. i haven't heard you talk very much about your own message and what you could bring to the race that maybe hillary clinton doesn't bring? >> well a lot of people on one of the previous tv shows i was on, they said let's put that

vote in the rearview mirror. we're live ing with the ramifications today from the 2002 vote. violence has spread into north africa. it's relevant. that vote is very relevant today. if it was all over and the middle east was calm this wouldn't be an issue. it is an issue because it's a mess there in the northeast. as far as what i would do, i want to be a peacemaker. senator clinton is finishing her secretary of state tenure with more wars than when she started. >> of all the candidates -- >> i give john kerry, he's making peace with iran and cuba. >> of all the candidates in this race. possibly senator rand paul sounds the most like what you're saying as opposed to clinton. do you think rand paul would make a better president than clinton. >> i'll let the republicans sort out their primaries. that's my challenge. >> let me ask you this your

criticisms of hillary clinton, we put the poll numbers up at the start of this segment. it jumped at me looking at the swing states of iowa colorado or virginia. 56% was the number in those states saying they don't consider hillary clinton honest and trustworthy, do you? >> i'm -- i run on my political career as trust chafee. when i started as a city councilman, i don't -- the voters of rhode island always know you can trust chafee. i'm going to run on my own record. not on senator clinton's record. we'll have a lively debate in the primaries. al whether she has credibility, that iraq war vote puts an arrow into her credibility. because we were there at the same time looking at the same evidence. >> governor, i loved in rhode island for a number of years. i'm very fond of it.

so i've been watching you and your dad for a long time. putting aside -- i know you want to make the focus international relations. but economic concerns,b obviously, will be a big driver of both the primary and the general election. so can you tell us some of the ideas you might have and what you would do post the obama administration in terms of dealing with flat wages, and generally what you see about the state of the economy and how to address it. particularly will there be any difference between you and hillary clinton on that front? >> i came in as a candidate for governor of rhode island. rhode island is suffering one of the worst of any state during the great recession, high unemployment, high foreclosures. our capital city almost went bankrupt. i focused on education, infrastructure roads and bridges. those four pillars of a good

economy, that's not going to change. i'm going to continue that. if i'm elected president. invest in infrastructure and education. work force development and helping our states on the federal level. make sure the states are in good financial footing. >> i want to ask you this -- i close with this. this is from the department of what an incredibly small world we live in. i just found this out about you this morning, you were a student -- you high school days attandover in massachusetts at exactly the same time the same class at another presidential candidate, jeb bush. not only apparently were you guys in the same class attandover, you lived -- there was eight of you in the same cottage. you lived with jeb bush? >> i think there were 11 in the cottage. yes, we know each other well. >> what was he like? what was jeb bush like? >> that's for another day. we got -- along well. we played ping-pong together. we got along well.

it was a small dorm. >> i'm sure there are great stories. maybe we will get them out of you another time. we appreciate you joining us this morning. >> thank you for having me. still ahead. hillary clinton's most fearless adversary is making waves in the 2016 field. that is next. later, making friends with a former foe. president obama forges a new relation with cuba at this weekend's summit of the merkz. stay with us. checked bag fees. no foreign transaction fees means real savings. we can go to any country and spend money the way we would in the u.s. one of the best things about priority boarding is you can just get on the plane and relax. i put everything on the explorer card. i really want my united miles.

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how is it that you feel your record on foreign policy is stronger than hillary clinton's who was secretary of state? >> i know as i say, many of the leaders on the world stage today, i've done business or tried to do business in many of these countries. >> you think your experience is deeper and better than hers?

>> well i think my record of accomplishment is better than hers. >> even before we knew hillary clinton's presidential announcement was imminent undeclared republican candidate carly freereny has been ramping up her opposition of clinton. >> what difference does it make when our embassy is deliberately attacked by terrorists and four americans are murdered it makes all the difference in the world, mrs. clinton. and the required response has never come. like mrs. clinton, i, too, have trarvel travelled the eglobe. unlike mrs. clinton, i know flying is an tivactivity, not accomplishment. please name a accomplishment. she may like hashtags but she

doesn't know what leadership means. >> she consistently polls around 1% in the republican race. she is still the only republican woman who is seriously vying for a spot on the 2016 debate stage. she is using that opportunity as you see in those clips to forcefully and pointedly attack hillary clinton in ways her male counterparts in the republican field largely have not. so much so that she has been dubbed the antihillary clinton of the republican party. it's a roll that could help her standing nationally within the party and maybe her party's general election chances as well. my panel is back here with me to talk about the carly fiorina factor. they're -- it is striking to me that -- you can't seem to be two minutes in a cary fiorina speech without an attack of hillary clinton. part of it is she's a democrat. she stands out among the republicans for what she's doing here. >> frankly, the republicans need a woman to criticize hillary

clinton. if they're going to get through this election cycle without seeming as though they're beating up on her. in 2008 there are moments she said now the president said you're likable enough -- it's different and difficult to go after a woman candidate than a man. and carly fiorina has the possibility to play a pretty unique role in this race. >> she's during her party a favor. >> i think this is a joke. she was the head of hewlett packert, hp, and they laid off more than 10,000 people on her watch. she was forced out by the board. stock prices went un7% when she was forced out. she oversaw merger that was a disaster. she got a golden parachute for failing as ceo of that company. they'll play the sound bites about her attacking hillary. once they start to pay attention

to her they'll see she has no business being in this race. >> what do you think is going on here? how is she being received? >> i think he's been received generally in a positive way from a lot of republican audiences. sort of surprisingly. she actually overperformed the level of republican support that you see, if you look back at the senate race that she ran in california. i think having a woman on stage who is a professional business woman is something that isn't a negative for the republican party. last time they had michelle back bachmann bachmann. did that help them? i don't think she has a victory -- >> there's something else in it for her. the party doesn't want 12 guys on the sage saying how terrible the first female president is. >> they'll keep doing it. she's adding to the chorus. i don't see her as being the designated anti-hillary.

because you see rand paul and ted cruz they're chomping at the bill to go after hillary. they're not reticent at all. the fact she's up there, too, i don't think affect what they do. >> the tenor of the attacks is slightly different. you have them going after benghazi and policies as secretary of state. carly fiorina's attacks are pointed and personal. they go after hillary says i've flown all these miles. i think it raises her profile. when it starts to get to the point -- if hillary starts to run, this is history i'm going to be the first woman president of the united states. is your best attack against that really you know over 60 man? i don't see that. >> here's another aspect of it too. the grounded democrats sort of gained in the 2012 election with the the idea of war on women they called that. here is carly fiorina addressing how she would stop democrats from doing that.

>> if hillary clinton had to face me on a debate stage, at the very least she would have a hitch in her swing. >> that was thought the sound bite i was looking for. she's basically making the case you can say war on women against mitt romney. try it against me. >> republicans want more females in their party. i think this is something that she's trying to do and it's filling that role very admirably. the thing is she's not going to be president or the nominee. she will be someone who will be rolled out very regularly by the republican party to respond against hillary and contrast republican policies and say they're better for women and professionals and businesses. that's her role. i think that she's going to probably do a good job of it. >> it is interesting, as we say, hewlett packard background is one thing. one thing she ran for the senate is lost. it's rare to lose a state wide opening.

it's hard to lose and go national. >> rick santorum. >> right. ends up winning 11 states. still ahead. tiger woods is waking up a happy golfer this morning. someone else is being talked about as the new tiger woods. the new old tiger woods. first, while you were sleeping last night, history was being made. look at that historic picture right there. stay with us.

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nations since 1958. this chance encounter -- it's the second time the two men met. they were at the opening of the americas. the united states kept them from here. in december when the president announced he was moving toward normalization of relations with cuba. the decision was made for cuba to come here and for the meeting that's going to happen later today. it would be difficult to overstate how important this meeting is going to be. now, last night, when the two of them actually talked. believe me everybody is looking at the pictures and the short video and parsing it for meaning. they seem comfortableual one another. they don't know heecheach other. just a couple of chance encounters and a couple phone calls, including one on wednesday. they'll get a measure of each other later today. and they're expected to talk about a range of issues not the least of which is the president's decision to take

cuba off the list of state sponsored terror nations. and that would open the way for embassies to open, both here and in cuba. here in the united states washington, d.c. that's what we're going to be watching for, the moments in this summit. >> that normalization we're watching that take shape in front of our eyes. thank you very much. we appreciate it. we'll have much more on the president's trip with how our relationship with cuba is developing when we'll be joined with the former governor of new mexico and former presidential candidate. al right now, back to the panel. jeb bush weighing in on that handshake you just saw. he's weighing in on twitter. obama meets with castro but refused to meet with benjamin netanyahu. why legitimatize a cruel dictator of a repressive regime?

there you have the moment of history, obama with the cuban leader, and now you have the leading republican candidate here to respond. >> this is the debate. going forward or sticking with the past. we've had an embargo on cuba for 50 years. it hasn't worked. we shake hands with people who run oppressive governments and regimes from saudi arabia to china in pursuit of our foreign policy interests. there is some -- i don't like the repressive regime of castro. >> republicans in 2016. marco rubio in particular, he has a family history -- when obama announced this he was vociferous in opposing this. we have a new nbc polling, people are saying we're over

this. >> this is what's going to be interesting. ted cruz jeb bush marco rubio all have strong ties to the hispanic security. rand paul is saying this hasn't worked, we need to move on. >> that's shifting the cuban americaen commute as well. >> it will be interesting how the republicans criticize obama and within their own ranks -- >> just looking where public opinion is on this it's a kind of issue where republicans ultimately their message will be like we don't like this but we'll live with it and move on. it's hard for me to see -- >> i think rand paul's involvement here is going to make it an issue in the republican primary. >> look, i think that this is going to be part of the overall republican message. that this president has engaged with many of our enemies to the

detriment of our overall national security. i think that's how it fits in to the broader narrative. jeb bush's wife is mexican american. he has close ties to the hispanic commute in miami. it's possible they're becoming more isolated with time as this -- i think you even see that in the generational splits in the cuban american community. many of the chirp of these people who came and fled cuba don't have the same degree of animosity. i think public opinion overall -- >> there's an affinity between americans and cubans. i've bipeen there twice. this artificial embargo for 50 years is artificial. once it comes down we still have a lot of things to work out. they need to change in a lot of ways. it's all going to be positives and it will be harder and harder for the marco rubios and jeb

bushs and ted cruzs to hold on to their position of their parents. >> my cousin married into a cuban family a few months ago. i texted him, what's the reaction here, he said the whole family is smiling. all generations. up next it may be april 11th. for us, march madness continues. the 12-year-old who beat the entire country. that's 11 million people with his ncaa bracket. he is waiting for us at the big board to show us exactly how he did it. stay with us. eating right, she got me drinking boost. it's got a great taste and it helps give me the nutrition i was missing. helping me stay more like me. [ female announcer ] boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals, including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones and 10 grams of protein to help maintain muscle. all with a delicious taste. grandpa! [ female announcer ] stay strong, stay active with boost. hey, girl. is it crazy that your soccer trophy is talking to you right now?

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espn's website. out of those 11.5 million, it was a sixth grader from illinois who emerged victorious. he finished at the top of the challenge. unfortunately because he's 12 years old he was not able to collect on the prize. he did get an x box from his local best buy. another one that was donated to the make a wish foundation on his behalf. while it isn't maui he got to join us on set to walk us through his bracket. congratulations, it's amazing you beat 11.5 million people. how does it feel? >> if feels good. i can't believe i beat all of them. >> the tournament starts and the first two days thursday and fridays, i think they played 32 games total. when did it start to occur you wow, i might have one of the

topbrictstop brackets here? >> until about the elite eight -- i didn't realize -- i was on the bus and i remember i saw that i was ranked number six. so -- >> you were sixth in the country. you're on the leader board you see your name there. >> yeah, i'm look really? i thought it was like a joke or something like that. then i realized it was real. and then after every game i kept moving up one spot. once i reached the championship i was first. >> espn tells you -- you get in first place and espn tells you, sorry you're too young you can't get the prize? >> yeah. you had to be 18 years or older to get the prize. i wasn't really guaranteed the prize because you had to -- they take the top 1% and put it in a raffle. even if i was eligible. i still wasn't guaranteed a prize. >> come on espn this is not real gambling. let me ask you, by biggest

frustration i follow college basketball i fill out the bracket. it's destroyed within hours of the tournament starting. the one who wins the bracket, they know the least. how much do you actually follow college basketball? >> i kind of like notre dame a lot. i don't watch the season. i love watching march madness, other than that i don't watch that much. >> let's take a closer look. this is the whole bracket. 67 games that were played. basically the key is for all these games that were played. you've got a total of five or six wrong? >> yeah, six wrong. >> basically this is the first round here. most of your wrong guesses were the first round. when you got to this sweet 16, elite 8, final four4 you had all the teams. >> the sweet 16 i had two wrong. >> let's take a look at some of the upsets that you called. so ucla was the 11th seed.

a lot of people said they didn't belong. they won two games. what did you see in ucla that you liked? >> i only picked ucla because two years ago me and my mom took a trip to california and we went to the campus and went to shops. i just decided why not give them a shot at winning. >> if you had gone to dallas you might have picked them instead of ucla. >> see, it's the random guesses. this was a big upset early in the tournament that you called wichita state against kansas. big upset wichita beats kansas. you got it what's the logic there. >> last tournament they were number one ranked seed in the tournament. i thought maybe they still had some good ibn them. al i don't like kansas at all. >> i agree with you. michigan state, the final four had three number one seeds. all the favorites making it.

one surprise michigan state spartans. al they beat good teams to get to there. why did you pick michigan state. >> they may not do that good in the season but they do good in the playoffs. they always step up and do good in the playoffs. i thought that maybe they would make it to the final four. >> you're right. tom izo is the coach, they always do great. the attention you've got for the last week or so what are your friends saying to you right now? >> when i first got to school everyone was freaking out i was there. it was pretty cool how they were like jumping on me. i was trying to open my locker and they were crowded around my locker. they were excited. >> are they saying take me to best buy sort of thing? how do your parents feel? >> they're happy. they're happy i'm number one in the world. they're as much as excited as i am. they came along with you to new york.

thanks for joining us. is there one tip -- next year everybody gets the bracket. what's the best piece of advice you can give us? >> just pick whatever team you really want. pick the team that you want to win. simple as that. >> it's never worked for me yet. i'll try it again next year. thank you very much. congratulations, that's cool what you did. up next residents whose homes were in the path of this deadly tornado may be able to go back today. we'll go live to illinois with a live look at the devastation . really? really. straight talk. now based on your strategy i do have some other thoughts... multiplied by 13,000 financial advisors it's a big deal. and it's how edward jones makes sense of investing. the new s6 hits the stores and i'm like... whoa. open the box and... (sniffing) new phone smell.

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today residents of fairdale illinois may get to return home to see what's left of their homes after a tornado tore through their home on thursday night. it killed two people. the entire town was evacuated. police said it was too dangerous to return yesterday. the weather channel dave malkoff

is reporting. >> we are right around the corner from that town that got taken out. an ef 4 is dangerous. pieces like this flying through the air at up to 200 miles an hour. homes with roofs pealing off like this one. this man lives in this house, he was not home at the time. good thing. because you see the top floor? that's where his three kids live. they live on the top floor. in fact one of the cribs is right up there. and the tree came crashing through the house and it crashed on to the crib in that corner room up there. this is a story of survival. they happened to be out of town. they were in contact with their family as they were telling them their home were lost. they're putting the pieces back together. two women around the corner were not as lucky. they were neighbors and they

were also up on the top floor. that's not the place you want to be in a tornado. they were killed. we have two fatalities here. and a very tight knit community. there is only about 100 people who live in fairdale. and it's only about a quarter square mile around. but everywhere you look i guess we could pan around here and you can see how much damage there is trees taken out, this was their barn where they kept their tractor for the farm. that is gone. and everybody is recovering today. they haven't been back to their home. some people haven't even seen what they lost yet. they are going to go back to their homes today just to take a look around. you know steve, sometimes yes it is just things in your house. but there are things like photos and videotapes and momentoes from your kids. it is hardbreaking to come back

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there is a lot going on this morning. let's get caught up on the other headlines making news with today's panel. although before we do that i want to correct the record. we believe just two segments ago we had sam holts who won the bracket challenge. i said his proud parents are here today in the studio and we showed what we thought were his proud parents but they are the equally proud parents of casey hunt. >> it is my mother's birthday this weekend. >> she found out about the son she never knew about.

glad we cleared that up. let's see what's in the headline this is morning. here's from "the washington post," a fat tax refund says your strategy is wrong. the tax deadline is next week. i got my h&r block appointment for monday. this is the advice from the "washington post" financial columnist. many people like the big refund, but that means you gave the government all yearlong, money you could have invested. it's like the snow day thing at the end of the school year. give me a day in the middle o of the year. i want the big refund. i want to feel like it's free money. >> when they give tax cuts they try to give them back not all at once because people won't spend it in a manner. psychology is as important as anything when it comes to your personal finances. >> we have breaking news that we

want to go to. apparently the family of walleter walter scott, that family is now arriving at the church. we're going to go live there for a report right now. i thought we were going live to a report down there. as you can see, the family is arriving. the funeral is later today. the shooting took place it was a week ago today exactly. now, as you can see a lot of people gathered outside the church for the service. today walter scott will be laid to rest. but obviously, the story is going to continue for some time to come now. stay tuned for more updates throughout the day. we'll now very awkwardly transition back to head looibs. this is from the associated press. boston cool to wahlberg's plan for a movie on the marathon attack.

critics saying it's too soon. it's about the attack from 2013. just this week you got the verdict for dzhokhar tsarnaev. now we wait to see if he's going to get the death penalty. mark wahlberg wants to start a movie. a lot of people in boston are saying it's too soon. >> sometimes it can take five years or longer to get a movie made and up so i don't know how fast he wanted to do. it will be hard for him coming from there as well to do a movie if there's a lot of community opposition. >> the boston thing, we'll talk more about this tomorrow as this decision on the death penalty comes down. the polling in boston shows people are against the death penalty for tsarnaev. we'll talk more about that tomorrow. let's see what else we've here. this is from pacific standard magazine. i have never heard of this magazine. >> it's a good magazine. >> the article says in the age of smart phones, boredom may be

a thing of the past. nearly all 18 to 29-year-olds use a smart phone to avoid boredom. the phone might be able to save you from more than boredom because l.a. times thinks your phone and gps sensors could develop an early detection system for earthquakes. so you are saving your fellow man from an earthquake as you play words with friends. >> i'm happy to do my part. >> when i talk to people who are younger than me i say there used to be days when i was bored. you would end work at 5:00 go home, you didn't have a family yet and didn't have much to do. you couldn't work. people couldn't find you, this was before cell phones computers and so on. you'd say what am i going to do? nowadays nobody's to do list is never finished. you can do another text catch up with someone. there's the end o of boredom and i think that's a bad thing. >> it kills creativity.

>> i agree with you. i'm guilty. i sit at night looking for reasons to use the phone. thanks to the panel. thank you for getting up with us. join us tomorrow at 8:00. we'll preview the looming indictments surrounding bridge gate and former ambassador to the u.n. bill richardson on the expanded relationship with cuba. before that you're going to want to stay tune edd for melissa harris-perry. she's coming up next, see you tomorrow.

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