this is not good people. >> 61-year-old mail man was looking to deliver a message to washington. it was a dare being act of civil disobedience that also happened to be a federal crime. >> on the ground the pilot quickly surrounded. >> terrorists don't invite an escort. >> guilty of murder in the first

degree. >> appearing to say wrong while staring at the jury. hernandez was immediately france transported his new home a mile and a half from the stadium where he was once cheered. hillary clinton was questioned more than two years ago about using her personal e-mail account. >> do i believe that her nonanswer was deliberate? yes. she lied by omission. >> we have to get rid of the unaccountable money is that flooded in our political system. >> she wants to then get the corrupted money out of politics. classic politician speak. >> is it possible while you were dealing with these serious issues of bridgegate that your moment passed? sgr i don't know. and neither do you. that's a good answer. >> classic christie coming out which we're about to show you. welcome, everyone, to "morning joe". we have mike barnicle here in new york and in washington

professor at nyu harold ford jr. along with willie joe and me. how are you guys? did you see that guy who flew -- what was that thing he was flying? >> gyrocopter. >> and here is the front page of the "usa today". d.c. security ruptured again. i mean map.n. >> making a political statement. wasn't trying to hurt anybody, trying to make a points. we'll tell you what it is in a little bit. >> he sure made the point. >> he made the point? will i'm not sure. he's lucky he wasn't shot down. >> next time maybe. >> new jersey governor and possible 2016 candidate chris christie has wrapped up a swing through new hampshire, the first in the nation primary state. christie got a rocky start as he visited a manchester diner where

locals met him with jokes and jabs. >> i was in that traffic jam. my anniversary. >> how it go? not well, huh. >> according to the "new york times," one customer asked him what happened to tony soprano in the last episode of the hit hbo series. another said he made sure all the bridges were open. later on in a town hall event, he went after democratic frontrunner -- >> let's stop there for a second. it's new hampshire. and guess what? if you can take as good as you give, guess what they like you. >> that's the best part about new hampshire. you'll get it all. >> they will pound you. if you look like you can take it, that ain't a bad thing. >> when new hampshire along with iowa i think in a sense is one of the few places where the candidate actually gets to meet and interact with really real people. no holds barred. >> none. remember we did an event with him in new hampshire and it was off the hook. >> they loved him. >> that was a while back.

things have happened but let's take a look. later on at a town hall event, he went after hillary clinton, but also spoke in very personal terms about his blunt style of conversation and his late mother. >> you know i read somewhere today secretary clinton said she wantsintends to raise $2.5 million for her campaign but wants corrupting money out of politics. classic. as i enter into a national conversation, i enter in with those traits. someone who is willing to speak their mind who is not going to wait for death bed confessions. you'll hear it now. and who has a confidence in the fact that even when people disagree with you, and argue with you, it doesn't prevent them from loving you. and that's a pretty good basis to go forward with. so that's who i am.

and that's who i'll always be. because we're always a part of what our childhood was and who our parents are, right? apples. my mom is the single biggest influence in my life. today she's the single biggest influence in my life. i know that if she were alive today and were here for this her son in new hampshire at a town hall meeting talking about all these issues, the one -- she would say two things. first thing is little buddy, don't get too big for your britches, okay? i changed your diapers, i remember you when. don't you get too big with me. the second thing she'd say to me is in a trusting relationship, chris, you owe people everything that is in your heart. and in new jersey for right or for wrong, i've always given people everything i've got.

>> he didn't just go after the democratic frontrunner. chris christie had this to say about jeb bush during another interview on wednesday. >> did you agree with the bush record, do you think the bush approach to foreign policy and domestic policy tracks with your own approach or is it markedly different? >> well, i'd like to see what jeb bush will have to say about these things. he's certainly got a father and a brother who have a record. and i don't know what jeb bush is going to say about foreign policy. the one speech that he's given so far i thought was rather general. didn't give you great insight. let's see what he has to say for himself. if i decide to run for president, you can conclude that it's because i believe i'd be a better candidate for our party, a better president than jeb bush or anybody else who decided to run. >> interesting. it looks like he had a really good crowd. how do you think just from the sound bites that you've seen and what you've read how do you think he did? >> he filled up several town hall meetings. >> he really did. they wanted to hear.

>> looked like capacity crowds. they wanted to hear. new hampshire voters just really don't give a damn about people in manhattan or gormgeorgetown, i have to say. they don't care what the "new york times" or "morning joe" has to say. what they care about, willie at the end is meeting the person face to face getting up there and then making their own decision. and yesterday it looked like there were a good number of people there who still wanted to make their decision. >> i know the "new york times" wrote it up as voters taking jabs. what i saw was good natured exchange. >> yeah. >> so i think you look at the crowds, you look at how he did and there is a reason so many people initially liked chris christie. he's an engaging person. we'll talk about his record in the state later. but he's funny. he has some self deprecation to him and he has a personality that draws people in. now, if you want to go to look

at bridge gaitte bridgegate that could change calculus. if you want to look at how new jersey has done there are certain things that you could argue there. but as a guy, you like him. >> people have the test who do you want to have a beer with. maybe that's one thing he passes. >> and the "times" had the headline even new hampshire bridgegate, he's getting jabbed over that. unfortunately, we started off the top of this with some of those clips. i don't think it was reflective of his day. >> it doesn't seem like it. i'll do a little more digging. >> it looks like he had a good day. there are a lot of politicians in any stage of their career who would love to have the launch in new hampshire like christie had. we're not getting swept away with the guy. just this is his story. and i've been saying it here for a while. people who want to discount

chris christie may just want to wait until the people in new hampshire have their say because these are a lot of the same people who said it was all over before new hampshire last time when in 2008 when hillary clinton kept that race close. >> i would agree. to build on willie's point and yours, one of his advantages and one of the reasons he's appealing is the straight talk and i think he made clear if he ran, or if he does run, that that's what he plans do. the challenge he has and i think it's been remarked about on this show many times is his temperament. we didn't see any of that yesterday. the kind of exchange he had on a radio show with i think the caller who asked about where his kids went to school. he can't afford those kind of gaffes the kind of exchanges he's had with reporters at times during press conferences there in new jersey that won't play well in iowa new hampshire. i would argue in many places around the country. but if the chris christie we saw in those clips is the chris christie who appears in early states including south carolina in the coming months, that's a

formidable candidate. >> and that's a problem also for a lot of people that are trying to fill the establishment main street part. it's getting awfully crowded. you have jeb, marco, you may have rick perry, you'll have chris christie those are a lot of candidates chopping up a very small piece of real estate. >> for chris christie, the most be be insightful element was the clip with matt lauer when matt asked him do you think the moment has passed. and he said i don't know and neither do you. and we don't know. what we saw this morning and willie arcticticulated it you saw a chris christie if he can sus sane that self-deprecating personality, in flp in thatnew hampshire, i don't know about any other state, but he'll go places. >> i want to show this headline. even new hampshire bridgegate dogs chris christie. that's just -- i mean "new york

times," you were doing some great work in a lot of areas. and just talking about what extraordinary job the new editor is doing. but they have had a naked ag again today agenda from driving this story. i'm not defending chris christie. he may not run. he may get indicted. >> so here are the quotes of people -- >> but for that to be the headline of a major national figure going to new hampshire accept bear rasing. >> especially when the article doesn't back it up. >> i would bet you that the reporter on the story would -- first thing this morning, he's saying, hey, i don't write the headlines. which he doesn't. but new hampshire -- "new york times" will cover what happened in new jersey and they will take that coverage and include it as part of their coverage in new

hampshire. >> the "new york times," again, i'm not a guy who bashes the "new york times," but again, you look at the headline this is just -- >> way down at the bottom a quote from somebody who was there, his name is bill mcdermott, he's 76 from new hampshire, in the past we've seen him so frequently in his role create an impression of ill tempered. but the christie he listened to he said was much more laid back more thoughtful. he told his story in a way that was much more professional than i'd given him credit for. >> draw. anyway, so there you go. >> nothing like -- >> we'll see if they cover it straight moving forward. we had jeremy saying i should run pr for the "new york times" because all the nice things i say about it. i think he'll probably take back the position when he comes here at 7:00. >> i do agree with the headline. >> the good news is the u.s. attorney is investigating.

indictments come down this week or next and we'll know whether chris christie knew about or ordered the closed sure of those lanes. so let's go to hillary clinton who wrapped up the first campaign swing on wednesday. clinton visited a produce processing plant and during a round table with small business owners, she continued to paint with broad strokes emphasizing her campaign's feedback first approach. >> in this campaign i will be offering specific ideas about how to help small businesses, how to jump-start them, how to grow them. but i need to hear from you because what are the skills you need who are the people that you're trying to recruit and what are the challenges that you are facing. i'll have a lot more to say about this as the campaign goes forward. with you before i roll out my policies, i want to hear from people who are on the front lines. >> the most specific policy announcement out of the clinton camp yesterday came in the form of a statement clarifying her

views on same-sex marriage. it reads, hillary clinton supports marriage equality and hopes the supreme court will come down on the side of same-sex couples being guaranteed that constitutional right. that goes a step further than what she told npr 11 months ago when she said same-sex marriage laws should be decided state by state. the announcement prompted a swift response from former maryland governor and possible democratic challenger martin o'malley who released this ad just hours after the clinton campaign released its statement. >> history celebrates profiles in courage not profiles in convenience. the dignity of every person tells us that the right to marry is not a state right, it is a human right. >> and so it begins. so what do you think of this rollout, hillary rollout? >> i think it's -- >> truthfully. >> i think it's a smart way to go. >> untilun filtered.

>> i think she knows what her policies and her standing is on issues. and i think that it seems a little canned. >> staged. >> and depend like a phone call to elizabeth warren and other things that have tapped in to that message that is really resonating with people. it just feels like it's not coming from her gut and it feels like she has to really take on wall street. she has to take on some of the big areas where she's got some conflated activity with. >> by name. >> yeah. >> it does seem a little staged mike barnicle, but they're rolling out -- >> could be worse. >> the sunday tape that was fine. her larger problem i think is -- and you can see it in just what we saw this morning, she's basically been living in a protective cocoon for 30 years. she needs a primary to get in

shape. she needs a spring training version of a presidential primary. she has to have -- >> i actually was thinking that as i was watching her sitting around sort of that stiff, willie, just the opposite of what you see in new hampshire when you see chris christie people jabbing at him. like i said after last week in the carly fiorina interview where mika and carly went at it i said you know what if you're good, and she is that actually is good for a candidate if somebody jabs and you can jab back. hillary looks in these early stages and it's really early, like she's shadow boxing. >> it's so controlled. >> she really needs a strong competitor to sharpen her up. >> town hall or two wouldn't hurt. >> i think she'll get martin o'malley, might get jim webb. she'll get a couple people to sharpener will sharpen her up. i think the van trip purely

superficial, this is a new hillary, more accessible. and you'd love to see her answer a few questions from voters and the press. >> but real voters. note people picked and staged. >> at some point i would think she'll probably have to have a press conference where irts's not managed and controlled. at some point she'll have to hold a town hall meeting where she just stands there and -- >> i'd love to see it. >> and actually answer questions. is she capable of doing that? >> i think she's clearly capable of doing it and i think that to your point, all the points made earlier, i agree, they have to kind of let her go a little bit and let her -- she's the big experienced qualified candidate democrats want including me. let's let our best candidate and our best athlete take a few blows and catch some balls. i watched her in the last few days and i agree with everything that has been said she needs to be pushed around a bit, needs to

have tougher pitching come her way. i'd love to hear her talk a little more about a new compact between the american people and business between american people and government between business and government and how we raise wages. i think people are waiting to hear that. and hopefully if she gets in the settings that you all describe she'll be forced to do more of that. >> and mika i will say that if you were a bush or you were a clinton in 2016 and your families have had a stranglehold on american politics for a quarter century and you want a stranglehold on american politics for another decade you better put yourself out there. because it's not going to be pretty if you don't. you'll have to be real, you'll have to answer every question they ask you. and if you think you're going to play it safe as a bush or clinton in 2016, you have another thing coming. >> and who thinks she can't do this? >> she can. the question is will she. she did when her back was against the wall in 2008. she was extraordinary.

>> don't stop her when she has her back to the wall. >> but as a frontrunner she's very managed and stiff and awkward. but it's very early. still ahead a florida mail man delivers himself on to the lawn outside capitol hill. we'll have the details on theyrocopter set off the scare. plus the troubling statistic that more british muslims have joined militant groups than serve in british armed forces. the "new york times" magazine investigates what is behind the pull of jihad. and later artist its, icons, leaders and pioneer respect we'll reveal "time" magazine's brand new list of the 100 most influential people. but first -- >> 101. >> mr. 101 is what they call him, bill karins with a check of the forecast. bill, what's it look like shall. >> just about as perfect as it can get from about d.c. north, beautiful weather continues in new england, even northern vermont, could be in the upper 60s today.

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23 past the hour. let's take a look at the morning papers. "washington post," a mail man hoping to deliver a message to congress is now in custody after landing a small aircraft on the west lawn. it is the latest in a series of embarrassing security breaches. and this time there are questions that questions if the secret service and police knew in advance. peter alexander has more. >> this is not good people. >> coming in for a landing, gug hughes on board a gyrocopter. >> reporter: the 61-year-old mail man from florida was looking to deliver a message to washington demanding an end to big money and politics and government corruption. carrying 535 letters, one for each member of congress. it was a daring act of civil disobedience that also happened

to be a federal crime. hughes made no secret of his plan alerting the tampa bay times last year. >> i'm going to violate the no-fly zone, nonviolently and for nobody to get hurt. >> reporter: he acknowledged the risk to his safety. >> i don't believe that the authorities are going to shoot down a 60-year-old mail man in a flying bicycle. >> reporter: and insisted he was not a terrorist. >> terrorists don't broadcast their flight path terrorists don't invite an escort to go along with them. >> reporter: hughes told the paper he took off from gettysburg, pennsylvania an hour away rounding the washington monument, giving him a clear view of the white house before landing at the capitol. >> i had no idea he would make this far. i thought for sure he'd be forced down somewhere before this. >> reporter: just the latest in a string of security breaches including a drone that landed at the white house earlier this year. after arresting hughes authorities found nothing hazardous on board. >> capitol police will have to regroup and the air space in the

district, everybody who is in charge of that has to regroup. police helicopter should have been forcing this guy down before he ever reached the capitol. >> reporter: after blogging about her plans more than a year ago, the seecret service reportedly interviewed him in florida. he live streamed his flight but not sure whether law enforcement was aware of it before he got here. >> he's getting a lot of attention for this. >> is it just me? i'm sure it is. here is the wind up and here is the pitch. same thing with the guy running in to the white house. if you're running in to the white house and you have all these secret service guys with guns by their side i don't care who he is if you're breaking the fence, you're running into the white house and you're putting the safety of the first family -- shoot them. just shoot them. and hopefully they train to you shoot them in both legs. if a guy is going around the capital, one of the most

sensitive zones there is you better have a way to shoot something out of the sky. >> did he bring the gjro thing up from florida with him? >> he took off from gettysburg, pennsylvania. >> through anflew an hour to get there. >> the not like they didn't see this thing. >> he announced his plans on the internet and in his hometown newspaper. >> what is the protocol there? i guess the one guy said helicopters should have escorted him out, but that is literally the most row hinted air space on the face of the earth. once you breach that, i think all bets are off. >> it would be one thing if a plane took off from reagan national. he took off from gettysburg. i'm going to have to call you guys out. if you're in charge of security -- why am i the guy who always says what they're thinking? why am i the guy? if you're in charge of security

to you let him fly around in. >> no because it's easy after the fact to say he was 60 years old, just delivering letters. you don't know that when he's up there. >> shoot him down. >> plenty of warning -- >> okay, barnicle get out of your comfort zone. would you shoot him down? >> no i wouldn't shoot him down. >> what would you do? >> mika would you you shoot him down? >> if i did not know who he was -- >> at the very least -- >> a warning and another warning and then you're down. >> get a helicopter. if he doesn't go down you take a shot. there you go. >> harold, what would you do? >> i probably would have shot him down. willie said it best. you don't know -- someone is flying around the capitol, i was there on 9/11 and i think you

were, too, joe, and there were a number of visitors and constituents there. how do you allow a guy to land, 60 years old, 30 years old, he landed right within about 100 yards of the steps of capitol. i don't know how you don't take aggressive action. >> how do you get the guy keep flying around before you even think of shooting him down. >> i don't understand how a d.c. helicopter, cop helicopter, didn't escort him. once he breach that had area there between the monument and kacht, i don't p how you don't take aggressive action. >> monday morning quarterbacking i thought after we had the massive breach at the white house with the vet and there was, oh, he's a vet -- you don't know at the time he's a vet. sorry, this guy we did not know that this was a 61-year-old kook from florida. >> nothing against florida. >> nothing against florida or kooks from florida. i am one of them.

but i'm sorry, if you're flying around, shoot him down. >> how many crazy stories have we done that begin with the phrase a florida man. >> all right. okay florida man. >> none of them natives. they all moved down there boston boston. >> and jersey. >> and the "washington post's" robert costa had an interesting excuse for being late this morning -- >> traffic. >> he was with chris christie yesterday and he'll join us after a break. there's some facts about seaworld we'd like you to know. we don't collect killer whales from the wild. and haven't for 35 years. with the hightest standard of animal care in the world, our whales are healthy.

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34 past the hour. joining us now from manchester new hampshire, political reporter for the "washington post," robert costa. and here in new york professor at ucla matt bareto. co-author of latino america.

good to have you on board. >> bob, let's start with you. chris christie yesterday the crowds looked big and christie seemed to be in hid season form. >> the best moment was when he was asked about the ending of the sopranos. still an enigma to everyone who loved the show and so is christie's political future. christie didn't really seem to have an answer but he was pretty good at the town hall. >> and the crowds were packed. new hampshire it seems that where he went at least some new hampshire voters were interested in hearing what he had to say. >> he's trying to prove to everyone that it may be a crowded and competitive field but he has the personality, the blue state swagger that the republican party may need. i watched him for over 90 minutes at this town hall and i was reminded this is the cristhris christie of all, the one you and i watched in 2010 when he had

the town hall meetings in new jersey. he's getting his confidence back. he's not the really pushed around by bush and the success of walker. >> so from what you saw, was bridgegate dogging him the entire event? >> and we ask this because there is a headline in the "new york times" that bridgegate dogs christie even new hampshire. and certainly we saw nothing to suggest that from everything we read. >> maybe you saw it. >> did you see it? >> i was -- the reporter is a great reporter. and he's right, he was asked about the bridge. one of the retirees said he was actually stuck in the traffic jam. it was a playful tease. and i think the time was right in this sense that christie is -- it's almost a cloud that hovers over him. . even when he's at his best people are still playing around about the bridgegate stuff. but not exactly dogging him politically. people don't seem to be consumed by it the way some others may be. >> and while michael wrote the

article, he certainly didn't write the headline and mika was going through the entire story saying he might not like the headline that is attached to his story this morning. >> it doesn't sound like it led the day. definitely is a question overall in his campaign. let me read a couple must reads here for everybody. this one, "washington post," senate's shabby treatment of loretta lynch. she hasn't been confirmed yet. ms. lynch was an outstanding choice who should not have had any trouble getting confirmed five months ago. instead, lawmakers have used the opportunity of her nomination to excerpt length late testify leverage and score political points. the confirmation battle for the past several years have harmed the country. we have no doubt that highly qualified potential nominees decided against pursuing or accepting government jobs because they did not want to subject themselves to the broken process. >> just underlying that sentence by the way. continue reading. but underline that sentence. why would highly qualified people want to quit their jobs

and put their family and their reputations through the meat grinder that washington, d.c. requires you to unnecessarily? >> absolutely nothing wrong with this candidate. there is everything right about her. a return to good order in the senate should mean that presidential nominees obtain speedy confirmations, except in rare and exceptional circumstances. that hasn't happened and the republican majority has no one to blame but itself. >> harold, we have been bitterly critical of harry reid around that set. mitch mcconnell said he would make the senate work again. is this not a big test on whether the new majority leader of the senate is good for his word? >> there are a -- answer to your yes is yes. there are a number of u.s. sthorssthor s senators who couldn't meet the threshold they're setting.

we're at a low point in politics and it happens on both side. opposing appoints someone, people don't like the president's policy so they hold im up his nominees. do you expect him to nominate someone who he doesn't agree with? with? why would you hold up a highly qualified candidate to be attorney general because of a few ancillary issues. >> and the thing is mika a lot of republicans actually talked about supporting her. this is about a political battle that has nothing to do with loretta lynch. as they keep eric holder in as attorney general, the hand they hate so much. >> matt reading from the "washington post," rubio's familiar fountain of youth. while rubio casts himself as innovative thinker, it's hard to distinguish between between what he's saying and what reagan ran

on 35 years ago. rubio spoke with compassion about small business owners left to struggle under the weight of more taxes, more regulation and more government. nothing new there. he spoke of our leaders taxing and borrowing and relation lating like it's 199. change 1999 to 1979. and that could be the begingipper talking. playing the youth card may be 9 best option, but to make it work i wonder whether he's propose to going to lead us forward well into yesterday. >> i thought the speech itself was good. really well written and well delivered, but he has a whole message about the new generation, next century, and the first thing he wants to stand on is this embargo from 1962. he's obsessed with this. he wants to make sure that we don't change a single thing and that's not the next generation, that's the -- that goes before reagan. you're going back to kennedy years. >> i know one of the things that

probably frustrates you is that because he has a latino background latinos will rush to vote for marco rubio not based on where he stands on certain issues. what is his appeal in the latino community? >> he does have that son of an immigrant story. he has very, very different path to that. his parents came without any proper documentation but got immediately integrated in to america as cubans. and that's not the same story that a lot of immigrant families have. they come from different countries, primarily mexico, and they don't have that automatic path to getting a green card. >> but takes it is a powerful story. >> it is a great story. but he needs to recognize that difference to say my parents did it, they pulled themselves up by the boot straps. they had an ought path thatautomatic

path thatness nessmost do not. >> his father risked his life, came to america for hope of a better life. that is happening every day. mexico, people leave and come to america and leave their families mind to make a little money. >> absolutely is. >> that is far more appealing than a guy like me who was born in the suburbs of atlanta, georgia. >> yeah, i think he would probably do better than you. >> well, i wouldn't go that far. but you're sitting here almost saying nothing to see here move along. and i don't buy it. i think he has a very strong compelling story. not only latino voters but for all immigrants. >> he just needs to square this fact. he assumed the immigration bill very strongly co-author at the time saying in june of 2013 i want to help other immigrants just like my family had that help. now he has backed away from that. so there is a bit of a pitch that he needs to make to mexican americans when he says my family benefited from a federal government program to integrate immigrants who came without

papers and got to have an automatic sort of fast track. and now he's backing away from that. and that he another part that says your family had the special path how about ours. >> matt thank you so much. robert costa thank you as well. >> by the way, i'm deeply insulted. up next guilty of one murder and facing charges for two more. the stunning downfall of aaron hernandez. we'll talk to our friend brian shactman who has been covering every angle of the case in new england. and one attorney says he expected a hung jury. that's next. hey, girl. is it crazy that your soccer trophy is talking to you right now? it kinda is. it's as crazy as you not rolling over your old 401k. cue the horns... just harness the confidence it took you to win me and call td ameritrade's rollover consultants. they'll help with the hassle by guiding you through the whole process step by step. and they'll even call your old provider. it's easy. even she could do it. whatever, janet. for all the confidence you need td ameritrade. you got this.

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footprint is in my heart forever. he was my strength. i love him dearly. >> that was the mother of odin lloyd speaking after a jury convicted aaron hernandez of murdering her son. joining us now eric guster and brian shactman. great to see you, man. >> you, too. >> for people who haven't been following this closely or maybe just tuned in when the verdict came in yesterday, how did we get to this moment of conviction for new england patriots star aaron hernandez? >> well, i don't want to wax too philosophical. but for me it goes back to 2003. i was working in connecticut, we were doing a story on his brother d.j. hernandez who was a star quarterback and i was in their living room with d.j. with their father dennis, and their mother terry. and the father pulled me aside

and he said -- because aaron was there, as well, and he was a pre-tee and he said you think d.j. is good, wait until you see this kid. and the father died when he was 16. d.j. was off to college. and aaron was this incredible athlete who basically ran unchecked and his mother didn't necessarily run with the best crowd. and that's when this started. and i will tell you, he got a full scholarship offer very early from the university of connecticut. urban meyer saw how good he was at florida. they plucked him away and he starteded to show signs of real trouble in florida allegedly failing multiple drug tests. but he was so good as an athlete that people seemed to look the other way. we've heard this story many times across the board. and then when you get to the nfl, he was a fourth round draft pick, but first round talent. why did he fall? maybe the drugs or maybe the stories. but in terms of the actual case though -- that's the takerajectory of maybe he was enabled or

sfwilgts entitled to to whatever he thought he wanted but the key in the case, it was interesting when they called robert kraft to the stand, a lot of people were like this doesn't make sense but would key thing kraft said aaron hernandez told him he would eventually have an alibi. they never ascertained the exact time of the murder and then when the defense in the closing argument says he was there, he was there, then those two pieces of testimony and statements really turned the jury against aaron hernandez in this case. >> so eric you say you're surprised, expected a hung jury. we know there was no murder weapon found, there was no independent eyewitness to the murder of mr. lloyd. why were you so surprised? >> it was such a circumstantial case. you have a very rich guy, there is no motive he's a good looking guy, which goes into play with the jury, and they just seemed like they had to put these pieces together and they

may not have had it. and the jury was out for almost seven days and that indicates that they're thinking about things. and he may have had one or two people back there who were on his side with the evidence. >> so what do you think swayed them, what about the prosecution's case won them over in the end? >> a few pieces. number one his dna on the gum at the scene. you can't get away from that. second the video with him holding a gun in his house, you can't get away from that. so dna at the scene and him holding a gun at home, that connects him to the place and a weapon. as well as kraft when aaron hernandez was giving his alibi, which when i heard kraft testify, i thought he was sunk like a bag of rocks. because people start talking too much when they're in trouble. and they try to talk their way out of things. and defendants try to set up

their alibi and that's what he was doing, he was talking too much. >> so now this will hunchh hugely bright star goes to prison for the rest of his life i guess a mile and a half away from the stadium from where he played. >> they say it's a four mile drive, but one mile in direct geography. so they say that he could actually hear the cheers from his prison cell and the irony is incredible. but i todo need to i want to point out, a lot of people thought this case was the weaker case there is maybe a more defined motive in the next case that there is a murder weapon, there is also surveillance video that the double murder we now do not know when that case with l. start, that he will -- he doesn't look good in that one either. >> brian mentioned this when he was talking about his background. i had a former member of the new england patriots tell me recently had he been drafted by seattle, he'd still be playing.

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56 past the hour. coming up chris christie takes his town hall tour to new hampshire as the new jersey governor gets very personal have voters. plus more on the security scare that temporarily shut down the u.s. capitol. did the seecret service and police ignore obvious warning signs? that and much more straight ahead on morning skroe oig.

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this is not the good people. >> 61-year-old mail man was looking to deliver a message to washington. it was a daring act of civil disobedience that also happened to be a federal crime. >> on the ground the pilot quickly surrounded offering no resistance. >> guilty of murder in the first degree. >> hernandez appear to go say wrong while staring at the jury. hernandez was immediately transported to his new home a maximum security prison a mile and a half from the stadium where he was once cheered. >> everything is in bloom. >> hillary clinton was questioned more than two years ago about using a personal e-mail account when she was secretary of state. >> did i believe her nonanswer was deliberate? yes. she lied by omission. >> we have to get rid of the unaccountable money that is flooding into our political system. >> she intends to raise $2.5 million for her campaign, but

she wants to then get the corrupting money out of politics. it's plasticclass classic. >> is it possible while you were dealing with the serious issues of bridgegate that your moment passed? >> i don't know. neither do you. >> that's just a great answer. >> welcome back to "morning joe". mike barnicle and harold ford jr. still with us. and joining the table, pulitzer prize winning historian. >> very exciting. >> jon meacham. and on capitol hill "new york times" reporter jeremy peters. good to have you back. >> thank you. >> we have so much to talk about. i don't even know where to start. >> i think jeremy should defend his paper. we'll start there. >> jeremy you went from telling me that i should run pr for the new york times to this morning probably saying i don't know who he is. i don't know this scarborough guy. it's actually a really good story. but how frustrating is it when you bust your ass, you get a

good story, you write it up everything catches a moment in time. and then some dope put as headline attaches to explaining the next day to all your sources. >> the dope would be the editorial board, but okay. >> i didn't see anything that was so wrong with the headline. >> of course you'll say that. go ahead. >> if you have a complaint, should you get in your helicopter and fly over to eighth avenue to the headquarters and register your complaint. >> public editor is waiting for you. and i think hg hasillary clinton has seen a number of headlines like this that she would consider off point. but chris christie is looking to voters in new hampshire to help him regain some hoe men item as the race for 2016 heats up. the possible presidential candidate just wrapped up a tour through the state. a packed crowd attended his first town hall. he went after hillary clinton, but also spoke in very personal

terms about his blunt style of conversation and about his late mother. >> you know i read somewhere today that secretary clinton said she wants to -- she intends to raise $2.5 billion for her campaign, but she wants to then get the corrupting money out of politics. you know it's classic, right? classic politician speak. my mom is the single biggest influence in my life. today. she's the biggest single influence in my life. i know that if she were alive today and were here for this her son in new hampshire at a town hall meeting talking about all these issues? the one thing -- she would say two things to me. first thing is listen buddy, don't get too big for your britches, okay? i changed your diapers, i remember you when. don't you get too big with me.

the second thing she would say to me is in a trusting relationship chris, you owe people everything that is in your heart. and in new jersey, for right or for wrong, i've always given people everything i've got. >> jon meacham, sound smart. >> okay. >> very -- i think the answer to matt lauer, as henry kissinger used to say, it has the virtue of being true. we don't know. i think the more -- it's going to be a really interesting and possibly actually illuminating republican race. >> i totally agree. >> in sharp contrast to the democratic one which is not a race. >> no. >> so if you have a stage with rand paul and chris christie and marco rubio and cruz and governor bush, that's an interesting debate. >> totally agree. >> we've talked about this time and time again. and i talked an awful lot when i was writing my last book about the history of the republican party and you can have one

candidate after another candidate after another candidate that everybody wrote off as dead. richard nixon i think one of the most fascinating things, lost the governor's race actually had the political obituary of richard nixon. "time" magazine said point blank he would never ever hold office again. he's president of the united states six years later. we see it time and time again. >> and nixon and part of what made him endear was he always understood where the people were. or at least where just enough of them were. and so the question is does christie have that sensibility, did jeb. and i think that is the real interesting question. >> it's getting crowded for jeb. >> it is. >> marco rubio, chris christie it's getting crowded. >> it is. you wonder if that helps the brand name though. >> so chris christie didn't just go after the frontrunner.

he went after as well jeb bush. during another interview on wednesday. take a look. >> do you agree with the bush record, do you think the bush approach to foreign policy and domestic policy tracks with your own approach or is it markedly different? >> well, i'd like to see what jeb bush will have to say about these things. he's certainly got a father and a brother who have a record. and i don't know what jeb bush is going to say about foreign policy. the one speech that he's given so far i thought was rather general. didn't give you great unsight into what he wanted to do. let's see what he has to say for himself. if i decide on run for president, you can conclude that it's because i believe i'd be a better candidate for our party, a better president than jeb bush or anybody else who decides to run. >> interesting. >> if that was a swipe, it was a light swipe. from christie standards. what i think is interesting about chris christie is his perceived fall if you think he has fallen, as a flaming super nova in the republican party was based on bridgegate.

what if he's exonerated completely this this federal investigation? what if he's vindicated and everything he said which is that he didn't know and was not connected becomes rue?true? how do you undo the shots he took in the heat of that battle? >> thejon meacham, the famous as far as bridgegate goes, where does he go to get his reputation back but he is governor after all. and a lot of bad things went on under him. but it seems to me jeremy he has bigger problems and that is his approval ratings in the 20s in new jersey and a lot of that has to do with the fact that they have an economic crisis there and they have had credit downgrades, one after another. he can't go around bragging about the new jersey miracle because he inherited a mess and it's still a mess. >> that's right. and that a takes away a good

reaction rationale for running. what i find so intriguing is the way he has been trying to rehabilitate himself, one town hall meeting at a time here. my colleague was on the ground there and he told me this is all part of a deliberate strategy that they're doing to kind of tame christie a little bit, make him seem a little bit softer around the edges. but of course christie's brand is all about being himself. being here, this brash persona. so how are you going to do that if you can't feel like you can be yourself? >> well, i think that what i saw is very vintage christie but kind of toned down and tailored up a little bit. and the way you would do that is to put yourself out there and let people come at you with anything and everything they've got. and, look i don't agree with any of his policies and i'm not sure he'll make it, but i'll tell you this much bridgegate has made him better

performance-wise. he is far more almost likeable he's willing to go personal, he's still quick on his feet. but that brashness that is a little bit in your face that's pulled back a little bit. >> he's still standing. he's still alive. >> it's made him better. >> because he was smart enough to get off the stage after he got beaten up. we haven't heard much from chris christie at all for several months. and now he's doing it the right way. he's not doing this pre-packaged rollout. he's going one up to hall meeting to another to another. and you do 100 town hall meetings you meet enough people, it doesn't matter what the big newspapers outside the state say. it matters what republicans that vote in this primary next february think. >> people will listen to sermons from sinners, not from saints. and so if willie is right and he's exonerated and he has a compelling story about what he learned from this and what he would bring to the white house,

in the end, it could end up being a plus. >> interesting. hillary clinton has wrapped up the first campaign swing of her second white house bid and she visited a produce processing plant in norwalk, iowa. and during a round table with small -- >> are those boxes real? or is that a painted wall? you know you're asking the same question. is that a hollywood set or is it real? >> she painted with broad strokes emphasizing her campaign's feedback first approach. >> in this campaign i will be offering specific ideas about how to help small businesses, how to jump-start them, how to grow them. but i need to hear from you because what are the skills you need who are the people that you're trying to recruit, and what are the challenges that you are facing. i'll have a lot more to say about this as the campaign goes forward. but before i roll out my policies, i want to hear from people who are on the front

lines. >> jon meacham, your thoughts. >> every president has had an early bloody episode in the primaries or caucuses. in 1980 ronald reagan lost iowa to george bush. 1988 george bush lost iowa to -- >> third place. >> third place. pat robertson. barack obama lost new hampshire to senator clinton. she needs a sparring partner. and there -- >> how about just real people. coming at her and asking questions. >> the comeback kid in new hampshire in 1992 when he was left for dead politically. >> and he came in second. >> and he came in second. >> so she's got this feedback first campaign. >> we're still 53 years away from the election. we all understand that. but still hillary clinton has to get into the diner. we saw chris christie in the diner.

that's where she's got to go. not behind the tables. she has to get out, she has to actually interact with ordinary americans. >> so is this going out and meeting with the people, jon meacham? >> the dunder mifflin scene? no i don't think so. >> there is new reaction this morning, we were talking about the feedback first thing, that she is saying that is he wants to hear from people first. not answering questions. there is a "new york times" report claiming clinton was questioned more than two years ago about using a personal e-mail account when she was secretary of state. now, congressman darrell issa purportedly investigating the use of personal e-mail by obama administration officials, is now speaking out. and he says clinton's refusal to reply to a letter asking her about her use of personal e-mail was, quote, lying by omission. >> we did eventually get a response that wasn't responsive. we received a response that here are the rules, but never

answering the question that obviously many people perhaps even the respond dechbt knew that hillary clinton was breaking the law. do i believe she knew it? yes. come i believe she deliberately did it yes. do i believe that her nonanswer was deliberate, yes. she lied by omission. as richard nixon discovered it's not the crime, it's the coverup. in this case her destruction of documents, her willful circumvention of law, her arrogant deletion of documents really is one of those nixonian moments. >> there are partisans that will say let's not listen to darrell issa. or this may be about benghazi so let's discount everything. that's what the clintons have always done. always talk generalities and look over there, look over there. no, we want to look right here.

and if you look right here, she was asked specifically by the oversight committee do you use personal e-mails at the state department. and there was no response. >> yeah, she's got a problem in terms of her testimony. but i have to tell you, i have had great difficulty detecting any public interest in the e-mail -- hillary clinton e-mail thing as an issue. >> i think you're hanging away the wrong people because every poll that we've been showing over the past couple of weeks -- >> i understand that. >> -- say that people do care that it feeds into a narrative about the clintons. >> that's different. it is part of a narrative. political life for 30 years. but in terms of -- aah, what about the e-mail, i can't detect it. >> journalists ask we questions that are important. is it an important question? >> it's a legitimate question to

ask and get an answer to. >> some guy took your bicycle helicopter. i don't know. you must not have locked the garage. >> we all have these in florida. great state. >> almost deadly serious here, a small gyrocopter piloted by a 61-year-old mail man crashed on to the lawn of the u.s. capitol yesterday. peter alexander is joining us now. peter, what can you tell us about this latest security scare? >> reporter: mika, joe, good morning. this definitely gives new meaning to the idea of air mail. we're standing in the middle of the national mall this was the flight path ultimately heading up just shy of the capitol there behind us. michael mccall head of the house homeland security committee said had it gotten any closer to the speaker's balcony, police with long guns could have taken it down. the pilot's desire was to start a new conversation about big money in politics but instead

he sparked a new discussion about the state of homeland security. following this unprecedented stunt, new questions this morning about security in the nation's capital. how did the u.s. military, capitol police and secret service all miss this? the stunning scene playing out wednesday as 61-year-old florida mail man doug hughes, look to go deliver a message to washington. carrying 535 letters, one for each member of congress protesting government corruption. >> this is not good, people. >> reporter: ultimately landing on the capitol grounds where he was quickly arrested. the flight wasn't a surprise. hughes blogged about his plans in 2013 and shared details with the tampa bay "times" last year. >> i don't believe the authorities will shoot down a 60-year-old mail man in a flying bicycle. >> reporter: after a heads up about hughes' timing, ben montgomery drove to washington to watch, but never alerted to authorities. >> it's not my job to pull the

plug on somebody doing splik this. >> reporter: seecret service interviewed hughes in 2013. >> commanders need to pregame and rethink all the possible ways people could attack their protected areas. too many are getting through. >> reporter: we spoke to hughes' friend. >> i won't deny the fact that it was kind of a stupid thing to do. but it was also very brave and very patriotic. and he is going to pay a very dear price. >> reporter: police believe that doug hughes took off from gettysburg regional airport. that's about an hour away as the crow flies. of course he ended up landing himself behind bars. he's likely to makeis first court appearance here in washington later this afternoon. back to you. >> peter alexander, thank you. >> it really is frightening as you're going down the mall and you see it going down the mall it's going right towards the speaker's balcony which is the very heart of the capitol dome. it wouldn't have taken much to

cause some absolutely serious -- >> i'm just -- doctor wouldn't they act on this in some -- >> look at that. going straight into the capitol. jon meacham, we've been asking -- we've been having an informal poll here. >> yes, because we're security experts. >> shoot him down? >> sure. >> okay. >> harold, you're next. >> how do you know what that is? >> because if you're from the south, this is an easy answer. harold is another southerner. harold shoot him down? >> i'm a tell low tennesseean. >> even memphis thinks. >> rocky top. jeremy peters, shoot him down or let him fly around is this. >> i don't know. the last time the capitol building was -- >> civil liberties. >>ky kycan i get a lifeline on that?

>> oh, high godmy god. we have a different attitude. we are jack seasonian in our approach toward gyrocopters. >> the real question is why didn't a police helicopter first intercept and if the helicopter gives the guy a warning and he doesn't land -- >> then he shoot the him down. >> but planlg if you're not a mail man and you're somebody with bad intentions. >> maybe in d.c. there aren't many security agencies with access to helicopters. >> i will say they will have to be ready to shoot the next one that comes down because if you're a terrorist and you're looking at this boy, air space is so -- >> it's wide open. >> -- porous. >> next week would not be a good time to fly a gyrocopter. >> go put a lock on it. >> who built that thing? >> i don't know but i need one. >> you do you need on get to the "new york times" in it. >> no. i don't think he's welcome

there."new york times" in it. >> no. i don't think he's welcome there. still ahead, an arizona police officer is facing scrutiny after hitting a suspect with his police car. >> this is great. >> why the police department says the officer should be praised for his actions. >> why is that great? >> plus kanye west would almost certainly consider himself one of the most influential people. "time" magazine seems to agree? >> oh, my lord. >> we'll reveal who else is on this list.

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a police officer facing scrutiny after video surfaced of him taking down an armed suspect by hitting him with his car. miguel almaguer has the story. >> reporter: as police pursued the armed suspect, dash cammers captured the violent collision.

>> man down. >> reporter: this the graphic view from officer michael rapiejko's squad car as he slams into the suspect at 40 miles an hour. >> outside the box and it's unusual, but if he doesn't take that action i believe we're probably answering questions to a much more horrific tragedy. >> reporter: mario valencia was hospitalized but survived the crash. booked for holding up a convenience store, trying to burn down this church robbing a home hijacking a car, then driving to a walmart where police say he stole a rifle. marana police officer spots the suspect holding the rifle to his chin. >> he has the gun to his neck. >> reporter: a single shot is fired into the air by valencia. >> one round just went out. >> the gun is loaded. >> reporter: moments later,

officer rapiejko rams the suspect. >> i believe the intent was to kill my client. it's a miracle that he's not dead. >> reporter: with officer rapiejko cleared of all criminal charges, there is public debate whether the actions saved lives or displayed excessive force. >> anybody okay with that? >> i think we need a "morning joe" medal and we can go pin it on this police officer. >> absolutely. you know, he stopped a crime in process. i mean the other police officer was right. if he doesn't do that what else are you talking about? does he go into another store, did does he lower the gun and shoot someone behind the 7-eleven counter? the cop was right. >> just for balance here, nfl affiliate in tucson does report that the officer behind the wheel was the sutsbject of a lawsuit while with the nypd. a man who had parked his car claimed the officer approached him and told him to get back

into the car, the officer threatened to shoot, handcuffed the man and choked him. charges of obstruction and disorderly conduct later dismissed and the civil case settled in 2008 when new york city agreed to pay the man $20,000 to drop the claim. >> and by the way this officer put his own life on the line ramming into a wall there as well. >> didn't see the wall. >> maybe not. willie. >> let's take a look at some of the other morning's papers. this from greenville south carolina. michael hubbard is being credited with saving one woman's life. hubbard stopped the woman from jumping off a bridge. it was captured on dash cam video. hubbard says if that was me or one of my family members sitting on the side of that bridge you definitely want them do the same thing. stuff like that you don't really have time to think. this whole job is quick reaction. good work by the cop there.

>> nice. the detroit free press, federal bankruptcy judge has ruled general motors will not have to face steps of lawsuits predating its bankruptcy that involved defective ignition switches. the ruling could shield gm from nearly 10 billion worth of potential lintdabilities. plaintiffs can still sue who claim a loss in value, but only if the actions occurred post-bankruptcy. faulty switch which is has been shown to slip have been linked to at least 84 deaths. >> so 84 deaths and 84 families who will not hold gm accountable. huh. wow. all right. let's go to the telegraph. a masked thief recently escaped with more than 200,000 euros worth of antique pocketh london.

after climbing through a 2 foot square ventilation shaftd, he slithered across the store like a snake in a bid to avoid detection. the store's owner says it was very much a mission impossible adding he clearly knew what he was doing, probably the tiediest burglar in history. he made sure everything -- come on. >> that's because -- was and he voiding security sensors? why was he snaking around? to avoid the security -- >> just to get -- >> just to look cool? >> i've seen much more impressive things. coming up, as members of congress debate the iran nuclear deal, bill crystal wants them to consider something else. we'll ask why he says one of the greatest parts of politics is sometimes saying no.

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32 past the hour. joining us now, bill crystal.

>> marco rubio's launch, what do you think? >> very successful. local media are like, wow, he can give a good speech. some of us who have been following him for four five six years, who supported him and had the huge upset victory, we've had a high opinion of him. he's on the foreign relations committee and intelligence committee. sometimes that doesn't matter much. but he has been serious about that and he knows world politics well. and so between that and his feel for domestic politics coming from a big state of florida, he's formidable. >> very surprised chris christie is looking good up in new hampshire. >> i love the way they rule everyone out. he has a minor scandal, he's finished. and then up again. it will be a fun few months to

watch. christie rubio, walker are talented politicians who all won races they were supposed to lose, have won repeatedly in tough states. democrats usually have taltal lebt talented politicians. >> i wrote about this last month, everybody said christie was dead. is this all preseason. i wrote him and i was like hey, you know what nobody knows if he can it will the curve ball until you get up to the plate and they throw you the curve ball. i think he can. i think it will be interesting if the investigation stays away from him, i think there is an interesting thing going on with jeb bush and marco rubio and chris christie. there will be a crowding out. >> failure of jeb bush to totally dominate and crowd out the field, that was their plan. look, he's still formidable. if you had to bet a one person,

you might still bet on bush. but their theory was go early, all the funds raising and intimidate rubio from running, maybe intimidate christie from running, make walker look like a governor from a medium state. but all these guys have a chance. >> i'm really surprised marco rubio ran against his mentor. and i'm not saying that like how dare you do that. i don't believe in staying it in line when it's your time as jfk said, when you see blue sky, you go towards it. well, marco's done that. but i have been around politicians long enough to know that they're always covering their back sides. they don't jump out like this. this is -- >> he'll give you up the senate seat presumably. walker is in his second term for governor christie, jeb an ex-governor. they're not giving up anything to run. they're still governor or still

a private citizen. rubio really is putting it all on the line which i think is sort of impressive. >> so jeremy peters has a question for you bill. >> i'm wondering if you look at these candidates in the republican field apart from rubio and maybe christie there is really an absence of a great communicator type, right? i mean rubio really can command presence on the stage. and i wonder if, though it's more than just about his speaking abilities. if rubio is able to connect with average voters, if he can empathize with them in a way that is going to be really crucial in and election that very well could turn once again on these questions of who cares about me the nos. and most. and if rubio can talk about his bartender father and maid mother is really capable of doing that. >> i'd say rubio, walker, christie, all come from middle american every day american whatever the phrase we're supposed to use these days is

back grounds. i love every day america which is the one hillary uses in her campaign. what is an every day american? when you think about it it's an incoherent phrase. >> it's a recent peripheral rating american. >> i guess you can't say the common man. but i think it's an advantage to the republicans to have these middle american candidates. >> so this candidate gets the most chatter? >> i think we follow the news and i do think most of us have been through it enough times not to get too carried away by one week or even one month. i've always had the view that it would be a real competitor race. i've always thought this was the year the republicans break from the we nominate the next in line front-runner or some

challengers that can never quite make it. and it really is wide open. >> is there one or two -- >> and message matters. christie gave a serious speech on entitlement reform which is an issue the others haven't quite focused on yet. he is a tough guy and if people get the sense finally we'll get someone who will make tough changes, message counts for a lot. and i think walker has a message, look what i did in wisconsin. rubio has a message. jeb is a capable guy, let's see what his message is. >> like jeb and hillary have the same issue almost. >> i was struck how much the rhetoric republicans are using against hillary, if they internalize it will hurt jeb. every time a republican says to himself or hear as republican he likes saying she likes saying we can't just nominate the same old same old dynasty, you know all the hitllary, wealthy person, out

of touch can every day americans, i have to wonder if he sort of thinks implicitly what i just said about hillary sort of a p applies to jeb bush fairly orunfairly as well. so i wonder if that will hurt jeb on the republican side. >> thank you very much. and up next he has conquered the box office and broadway. and now bradley cooper is one of "time" full list of the magazine's most influential people. we have other names on the list. and some writers for this issue straight ahead on "morning joe".

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every time i crash the internet it's like this little drop of truth. every time i say something that is extremely truthful out loud it literally breaks the internet. so what are we getting all of the rest of the time? >> conkanye west and his wife among this year's am picks for the word's most influential people. nancy gibbs joining us with the full list. nancy, another great issue this year. you know what i love about this some of the pairings. the people you have -- jon meacham writing about tim mcgraw. we'll get to that. >> and elon musk. >> and i've spoken to kanye about that relationship because it goes well beyond music into the importance of design.

they talk about design as the way you will solve the world's problems. mar is thattha stewart writes on kim kardashian kardashian. >> and then scalia writing about ruth bader ginsburg. >> because this is a list about influence, not power. even people who are rivals competitors, appreciate who it is who is changing and rewiring our conversation. a ska lee a scalia writes about the influence gipsburgnsburg has even though they won't agree on a great many things. >> another one that jumped out at me hillary clinton on elizabeth warren. >> yeah that may have been a little mischa advice. but she talks about how elizabeth warren continues to hold people's feet to the fire. >> elizabeth warren's journey there janitor's daughter to harvard professor to public

watch dog to u.s. senator has been driven by an unflagging determination to level the playing field for hard working american families like the one she grew up in in oklahoma. she fights so hard for others to share in the american dream because she lived it herself. >> what is interesting is i think -- one thing that is interesting, the list gets more interesting to as accept bell every year because we're living in this har moppic convergence of business and politics and technology and science. and so i learn things about people in doing this that i had no idea about. it's why we have john lewis for instance write about tim cook. here is tim cook running the most valuable company on the planet, he's launched the apple watch to enormous fanfare, but lewis points out this is the year cook has emerged almost as another civil rights leader and as a social activist. very often it's when they're driving outside of their normal lanes. >> and then that would lead to the question of why you would

have jon meacham write about tim mcgraw. >> exactly. talk about outside -- >> are you suggesting that i'm not a country music expert? >> not the true. a couple of nashville's finest right here. >> exactly. >> so what did you decide to focus on meacham? >> mcgraw is a really formidable guy. big reader. interesting actor obviously. and when i talked to him about this, he immediately went to the point art reflects life and life reflects art. and when he first came to nashville, he was raising hell and now with his wonderful wife faith hill and three daughters, he's raising a family. and a lot of the songs are about a search for a connection. >> and he'll be on the show next week. >> that's cool. i'm looking down this list. hillary clinton written by the widow of steve jobs. fascinating. >> about the revolutionary impact that she has. she's active in education reform and she writes about hillary from that perspective.

we learn things -- i did not know for instance that the barefoot contessa, taylor swift writes about her, she used to work on nuclear policy. >> who knew. >> and how about our buddy bradley. quite a year for mr. cooper. >> and we've caught up with him a few times especially went to see him on broadway. the guy does not let it get to him. it's nice. he's a good guy and he doesn't let all this fame and -- it's unbelievable the span of his talent. especially starting with those movies that he started with. >> he now finds himself in a position to have a significant voice on veterans issues because of the role that he played. and so a whole other opportunity for him opens up. there is a whole artistic -- >> bipolar disorder that he took on with one of the movies that he did which sort of merges with the interest in vet ans.

he really wants to take this to a level where he can give back. it's nice. a great guy. the new issue of "time" magazine is out now. nancy gibbs, this is always a great one. thank you so much. still ahead, cell phone video captures an alleged sexual assault in public. and police say it's not the first time. we have a live report on this disturbing case from panama city, florida where officials are very concerned about losing control over spring break partiers.

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>> 52 past the hour. a third man has been arrested following what police say was a gang rape on a florida beach in broad daylight that was caught on camera. >> now a popular spring break destination is under pressure to make big changes. >> neighbors's gabe gutierrez joins us live from an ma citypanama city beach. gabe, what are you hearing from law enforcement and what happened? >> reporter: mika good morning. law enforcement officials and locals are trying to figure out how to take back control of this beach. it has been a wild year here and now some critics are wondering whether this annual college tradition has spun out of control. this morning, many here are asking, is spring break broken. >> there's some bad things happening on panama city beach. >> reporter: after this video

surfaced showing what police say is several men sexually assaulting an unconscious 19-year-old woman last month on a beach in broad daylight while bystanders do nothing. >> within 10 feet of where this happened there's hundreds hundreds of people standing there watching looking, seeing hearing what's going on. >> reporter: three men have been arrested? >> heartbreaking. absolutely heartbreaking. >> reporter: in this community, there's been a dramatic increase in violent crime. a gunman shot seven people at a house party last month. in bay county which includes panama city beach, arrests have more than tripled compared to last year. drug arrests are five times higher and police nabbed twice as many suspects for weapons-related charges. they even set up so-called spring break jails or mobile booking cages. >> we have a cancer in this area right now. >> reporter: wes pittman has

lived here almost 40 years. >> we have gone to an era now of total violence and animalistic conduct. >> reporter: officials are already clamping down, banning alcohol on the beach between march 1 and april 18 and closing bars at 2:00 a.m. instead 406 o'clock a.m. >> we will do what it takes to take the beach back and get it under control. >> reporter: but each year panama city beach attracts some 300,000 partiers who shell out millions of dollars -- money business owners like sparky sparkman don't want to lose. >> there's some residents in this community who think, we don't need spring breakers. what do you say to those folks? >> i don't want to find out and i don't think they want to find out, either. >> reporter: the city council could vote on more changes next month, including banning alcohol on the beach year round. the mayor says all options are on the table and, joe and mika the big question right now is what can local officials do when they're trying to strike this delicate balance between business and safety? back to you.

>> than has been a problem for a long time. gabe, thank you so much. nbc's gabe gutierrez, we appreciate it. john asked me if this was my district. it was. it's always been the hard charging place for college students to come down but it's gotten worse and worse and worse every year and it does at the end, willie, you said you're down there 20 years ago, 30 years ago, whatever and it was pretty rough back then but, man, at some point you have to say the money's not worth it. >> this would be it. >> i went to school in nashville and that's where we'd go. i know those scenes well. i never saw anything like. this i don't know if it's more cops on the beach or those parties but you have to ask not what's wrong with spring break, what's wrong with 200 people as the sheriff indicated, that stood there and watched a woman get raped. that's not spring break, that's people. >> we're part of an observational culture now.

>> oh come on. >> we observe, we film, we let things happen. >> i hope not that. >> didn't we see that on the front of the "daily news" a month or two ago in queens in a mcdonald's. >> the fight at the mcdonald's. >> and the idiots are watching somebody get raped or beaten up and doing nothing about it. up next he hasn't yet said if he's running for president but chris christie did fill up a town hall meeting in new hampshire. we'll look at the new jersey governor's day in the granite state. first it was a drunken drove driver, now a eyegyrocopter pilot makes a public protest. the big questions surrounding the security breach. we're back in a moment. go get help, boy.

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>> this is not good people. >> the 616-year-old mailman from florida was looking to deliver a message to washington. it was a daring act of civil disobedience that also happened to be a federal crime. >> on the ground, the pilot quickly surrounded offer nothing resistance. >> terrorists don't invite an escort. >> guilty of murder in the first degree. >> hernandez appearing to say wrong while staring at the jury. hernandez was immediately transferred to his new home, a maximum security prison a mile and a half from the stadium where he once cheered. >> everything is in bloom here! >> hillary clinton was questioned more than two years

ago about using a personal e-mail account when she was secretary of state. >> do i believe her non-answer was deliberate? yes. she lied by omission. >> we have to get rid of the unaccountable money that is flooding into our political system. >> she intends to raise $2.5 million, her campaign, but she wants to then get the corrupting money out of politics. it's classic politician speak. >> is it possible that while you were dealing with these serious issues of bridgegate back in new jersey, that your moment passed? >> i don't know, and neither do you. >> that is a good answer. >> that was some classic christie coming out we'll show you. welcome, everyone, to "morning joe," we have mike barnicle here in new york and former democratic congressman and visiting professor at nyu harold ford, jr., along with willie and me. did you see that guy who flew -- what was that thing he was flying? a bicycle? >> gyrocopter.

>> a gyrocopter. >> and here's the front page of "usa today." "d.c. security ruptured again." man. >> he's making a political statement which mika will explain later. said he wasn't trying to hurt anybody, he was trying to make a point. >> yeah, but how do you know? >> he sure made the point. >> he made the point? i'm not sure. he's lucky he wasn't shot down. let's start with politics -- >> next time maybe. >> stop. new jersey governor and possible 2016 candidate chris christie has wrapped up a swing through new hampshire, the first in the nation primary state. christie's last day got sort of somewhat rocky start as he visited a manchester dine where locals met him with jobs and jobs about his reputation. >> i was in that traffic jam, by the way. >> were you? >> my anniversary? >> really? how did it go? no wet, huh not well, huh? >> not well. >> reporter: according to the "new york times," one customer

asked him "what happened to tony soprano at the end of the hit series?" another said when he heard christie coming he made sure the bridges were open. later on in a town hall event he went -- >> let's stop there. mike barnicle it's new hampshire. guess what if you can take as good as you give guess what? they like you. >> that's the best part about new hampshire. you'll get it all. >> they'll pound you. you know what? that ain't a bad thing. >> when new hampshire along with iowa is one of the few places where the candidate meets and interacts with really real people and there's no holds barred? >> we did an event with him in new hampshire and he was off the hook. they loved him. >> they loved him. >> that was a while back. things have happened but let's take a look here. later on at a town hall event he went after democratic front-runner hillary clinton but also spoke in very personal terms about his blunt style of conversation and his late mother. >> you know i saw -- read

somewhere today that secretary clinton said she wants to -- she intends to raise $2.5 billion for her campaign but she wants to then get the corrupting money out of politics. [ laughter ] it's classic, right? classic politician speak. as i enter into a national conversation, i enter into it with those traits. someone who's willing to speak their mind who's not going to wait for deathbed confessions, you'll hear it now, and who has a confidence in the fact that even when people disagree with you and argue with you it doesn't prevent them from loving you. and that's a pretty good basis to go forward with. so that's who i am and that's who i'll always be. because we're always a part of what our childhood was and who our parents are, right? always. my mom is the single biggest influence in my life.

till today she's the single biggest influence in my life. i know that if she were alive today and were here for this her son in new hampshire -- [ laughter ] at a town hall meeting talking about all these issues. the one thing -- she would say two thing to me. the first thing she would say to me is listen buddy, don't get too big for your breeches okay? i changed your diapers, i remember you when don't you get too big with me. the second thing she would say to me is in a trusting relationship, chris, you owe people everything that's in your heart. and in new jersey for right or for wrong i've always given people everything i've got. >> he didn't just go after the democratic front-runner. . christie had this to say about jeb bush during another interview on wednesday. >> do you agree with the bush record? do you think the bush approach to foreign policy and domestic

policy tracks with your own approach or is it markedly different? >> i'd like to see what jeb bush is going to have to say about these things. he's certainly got a father and a brother who have a record and i don't know what jeb bush is going to say about foreign tollsy. the one speech he's given so far i thought was rather general and didn't give you great insight as to what he wanted to do. let's see what he's got to say for himself. if i decide to run for president you can conclude it's because i believe i'd be a better candidate for our party, better president for jeb bush and anyone else who decided to run. >> looks like he had a good crowd. how do you think from the soundbites you've seen and what you read how do you think he did? >> listen he filled up several town hall meetings. >> really did. they wanted to hear. >> looked like capacity crowds. they wanted to hear. new hampshire voters don't give a dam what people in manhattan or georgetown have to say. they don't care what the "new

york times" or "morning joe" has to say. what they care about, willie at the end is meeting the person face to face getting up there and then making their own decision. yesterday it looked like there were a good number of people there who wanted to make their decision. >> i know the "new york times" wrote it up adds voters taking jabs at chris christie. i saw good natured exchanges. guys giving him crap about something in the press. so i think you look at the crowds and look at how he did and there's a reason so many people initially liked chris christie. he's an engageing person. i'm not talking about his record: he's funny, he's got self-depprication to him and he's got a personality that draws people in. now, if you want to go to look at bridgegate, there may be indictments coming this week or next that could change the calculus in all this. if you want to look at how new jersey has done under his leadership there are things you can argue that have not been so great but as a guy when you meet

him face to face as some people in new hampshire found, you like him. >> people have that test, who do you want to have a beer with? maybe that's one thing he passes. >> the "times" had the headline even even in new hampshire he's getting jabbed over bridgegate. we started off the top of this with some of those clips. i don't think it was reflective of his day. >> it doesn't seem like it. i'm going to do more digging. >> it looks like he had a good day, harold. there are a lot of politicians in any stage of their career that would love to have a launch in new hampshire like christie had. we're not getting swept away. this is a story -- and i've been saying it here for a while. people who want to discount chris christie may just want to wait until the people in new hampshire have their say because these are a lot of the same people who said it was all over before new hampshire last time when, in 2008 when hillary clinton kept that race close.

>> i would agree. to build on willie's point and yours, one of his advantages and one of the reasons he's appealing is the straight talk. i think he made clear if he ran or does run that's what he plans to do. the challenge he has, and i think it's been remarked about on this show many times, is his temperament. we didn't see any of that yesterday, the kind of exchange he had on a radio show with the caller who asked about where his kids went to school. he can't afford those gaffes, the kind of exchanges he's had with reporters at times during press conference there is in new jersey. that won't play well in iowa new hampshire, i would argue in many places around the country. but the the chris christie we saw in those clips is the chris christie that appears in new hampshire and iowa and other early states including south carolina in the. coing months if he decides to run, that's a forbiddable candidate than what we saw a few minutes ago. >> that's a problem for people started to fill the establishment main street. it's getting crowded. you've got jeb, marco, you may have rick perry, you're going to

have chris christie. those are a lot of candidates chopping up a small piece of real estate. >> for chris christie, the most insightful element we showed was the clip with matt lauer when matt asked him do you think the moment has passed and he said "i don't know and neither do you." what we don't know. and what willie just articulated far better than i could is you saw a chris christie that if he can sustain that type of personality, that kind of self-deprecating personality in new hampshire, i don't know about any other state right now, but in new hampshire he's going to go places. >> i want to show the headline and we just got this printed online. but even in new hampshire bridgegate dogs chris christie. that's just -- i mean "new york times," you were doing some great work in a lot of areas and good on you. i was just talking about what an extraordinary job the new editor is doing but they have had a

naked agenda on driving this story from the very beginning and that is an embarrassing headline for the "new york times" to write this morning. i'm not defending chris christie, he may not run, he may get indicted he may get 1% -- >> so here's the quotes of people -- >> but for that to be the headline, a major national figure going to new hampshire is embarrassing. >> especially when the article does not back it up. >> and the article doesn't back it up. >> i would bet you, joe, that the reporter on this story, he would -- first thing he's saying "hey, i don't write the headlines." which he doesn't. >> "on his best behavior." go on. >> the "new york times" is going to cover what happened in new jersey and they're going to include as part of their coverage. >> yeah, but the "new york times," again, i'm not the guy that runs around bashing the "new york times" -- >> "jokes about the bridge thing, how he handled it." >> you look at the headline this is just -- >> and way down at the bottom a quote from somebody who was

there, his name is bill mcdermott 76 from new hampshire. "in the past we've seen him so frequently in his bombastic role. it created an impression of him as ill tempered. but the christie he listened to in londonderry was much more laid back more thoughtful. he told his story in a way that was much more professional than i'd give him credit for." >> anyway. so there you go -- >> nothing like the "new york times" covers it straight moving forward. the u.s. attorney is investigating this. there will be indictments coming down this week or next that will know one way or another whether chris christie ordered the closures of those lanes once and for all. coming up on "morning joe," they're from private schools with good jobs and comfortable lives. so why are so many british citizens leaving everything behind to join the wave of foreign fighters in syria? we'll talk to the reporter behind the "new york times" magazine investigation. plus, the secrets of selling anything to anyone. in this case it's multimillion dollar apartments. >> let's talk about price.

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let's look at the morning paper, shall we? the "washington post," a mailman hoping to deliver a message to congress is in custody after landing a small aircraft on the west lawn. it's the latest in a series of embarrassing security breaches and this time there are questions that the secret service and police knew in

advance. nbc's peter alexander has more. >> this is not good people. >> reporter: coming in for a landing on the lawn of the u.s. capitol, doug hughes on board what's called a gyrocopter. the 61-year-old mailman from florida was demanding an end to big money in politics and government corruption. caring 535 letters, one for each member of congress. it was a daring act of civil disobedience that also happened to be a federal crime. hughes made no secret of his plan alerting the tampa bay times last year. >> i'm going to violate the no-fly zone non-violently, i intend for nobody to get hurt. >> reporter: he acknowledged the risk to his safety. >> i don't believe that the authorities are going to shoot down a 60-year-old mailman in a flying bicycle. >> reporter: and insisted he was not a terrorist. >> terrorists don't broadcast their flight path. terrorists don't invite ans

supreme court go along with them. >> reporter: hughes told the paper he took off from gettysburg pennsylvania an hour away rounding the washington monument giving him a clear view of the white house before landing at the capitol. >> i had no idea he would make it this far. i thought for sure he'd be brought down or forced down before this. >> reporter: it's the latest in a string of security breaches including a drone that landed at the white house earlier this year. after arresting hughes authorities found nothing hazardous on record. >> the capitol police will have to regroup and the airspace in the district everybody in charge of that has to regroup. police helicopters should have been forcing this guy down before he ever reached the capitol. >> reporter: after blocking his plans a year ago, the secret service interviewed hughes in florida. he live streamed his flight but it's not clear whether law enforcement was aware of it before he got here. >> wow. >> he's getting a lot of attention. >> i -- is it just me? i'm sorry, i'm sure it is just

me. i'm going to say it. >> no don't. here it comes. >> here's the windup and here's the pitch. the same thing with the guy running into the white house. if you're running into the white house and you've got all these secret service guys with guns by their side -- >> joe -- >> i don't care who he is, if you're breaking the fence and running the white house and putting the safety of the first family, shoot him. just shoot him. hopefully they've trained you to shoot him in both legs. if a guy is going around the capitol, one of the most sensitive zones there is you better have a way to shoot something out of the sky. >> well and he -- >> it's a mystifying story in the sense that it was the -- did he bring the gyro thing up from florida with him? where did he take off from? >> took autooff from gettysburg pennsylvania and flew an hour to get there. it's not like they didn't see this thing. >> posted his plans on the internet and his hometown nope. >> what is the protocol there. one guy said helicopters should

have escorted him bull that's literally the most prohibited airspace on the face of the earth. once you breach that i think all bets are off. >> and it would be one thing if a plane took off from reagan national. >> air defense systems did not detect the continuer the. >> he took off from gettysburg. >> i'm going to have to call you guys out. >> what? no don't make us say it. >> why am i guy t guy that only says what they're thinking? why am i the guy? if you're in charge of security for the capitol, do you let him fly around or do you shoot him down? >> it's easy after the fact to say "oh, that was 60-year-old man he was just delivering letters." you don't know that when he's approaching the capitol. >> shoot him down. >> why did they not have another helicopter coming from gettysburg. >> barnicle, get out of your comfort zone. would you shoot him down. >> no i wouldn't shoot him down. >> oh, good guy. >> what would you do? >> i'd never have you garden the

pentagon. >> would not shoot him down. >> mika would you shoot him down or let him fly around? >> if i didn't know who he was and i was running security there -- >> you don't know who he was. >> a warning and -- another warning then you're down. >> get a helicopter. >> then he doesn't go down then you take a shot at him. >> haurld, definitely. >>. i would have shot him down i mean willie said it best you don't know. someone's flying around the capitol. i mean i was there on 9/11 and i think you were too, as well joe, and there were a number of visitors and constituents. how do you aa i how will a guy to land 60 years old, 30 years old or not, he landed within a hundred yards of walking to the steps of the capitol. i don't know how you don't take aggressive action. >> how do you let the guy keep flying around before you think of shooting him down. >> right. the initial thing would have been to do what the cops said. law enforcement. beyond how a d.c. cop helicopter didn't escort him.

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>> you know marco rubio? you know the guy running for president, ladies and gentlemen. that's right. he is stepping down from one direction and he's going to run -- [ laughter ] i love this. hillary clinton is now in iowa and she's spending every waking minute of her day meeting ordinary people. and it's to prepare her for a job in which she will never again meet an ordinary person. [ applause ] fascinating, isn't it. >> and she's going around to the beck. >> wow they're -- >> and we'll see her very soon. >> guy in the orange pants is pretty quick. alex, i mean i'm looking at these people -- wow. all right, orange pants, he's outnumbered you? what are we doing here people? there are a lot of good reasons for you to be chasing a van.

if the van was perhaps the good humor truck and you were five. [ laughter ] if zane was in the van and you were five. [ laughter ] or if you're not so much running towards the van as away from godzilla. [ laughter ] who, more than likely would be chasing you saying "it's day two, people! slow down!" >> maybe i've been in this business too long. i just wouldn't run. i'd walk. you know? time now for business. especially when you know you won't get anything. let's go to cnbc's chief international correspondent, michelle caruso cabrera. big numbers for netflix in their first quarter earnings. i started with this because i'm sure there are many of your audience members who are huge fans of "house of cards" which is created and distributed by netflix, one of their original

productions, a new strategy they started a couple years ago. their stock is moving higher as they reported earnings. the subscriber growth looked good. it's coming from overseas a lot and they're saying that their original content creation is also helping them to retain customers as well and they're cost competitive compared to hbo now which costs more money. that's the new competing offers from hbo. now, the actual profitability was hurt because those overseas sales with the rising strong dollar it makes it harder to bring in money from overseas. the translation doesn't work out as well so the profitability itself, but investors are focused on can k they keep up subscriber growth. the other thing we're watching the housing starts. we'll get those numbers. the reason we're so focused on them is there's been a lot of data that's been soft about the u.s. economy and we want to see if the housing number which is expected to be one of the best we've seen in months because of the terrible winter maybe that will show things are improving within housing and giving us a

better grounding on the economy. >> michelle thank you so much. two of the united states' strongest allies in the middle east find themselves at odds this morning. it centers on saudi arabia's air strike campaign against shiite rebels in yemen that are believed to be backed by iran. iraq's prime minister, who is visiting washington said there was no logic to the operation. he also questioned if saudi arabia was looking to expand its presence and said the white house agreed with his concerns. that drew a strong response from the saudi ambassador to the united states. >> i have not heard any u.s. official tell me that the operations were not proceeding well and i have not heard any u.s. official indicate to me or give me a sense that saudi arabia has ambitions beyond its borders. so i can't -- i don't know how the iraqi prime minister got to that assessment. but i would think that the iraqis should really focus on

the problems in their own country and find ways to move the country towards reconciliation. >> a spokesman for the national security council also denied that president obama criticized the air strikes. >> you know, john meacham, you would think the iraqis would not act quite so much like a client sate of iran while we're still fighting to keep their government above water. >> you would think after all these years. and this is going to be what we're going to be dealing with forever. >> exactly. we're going to find time and time again egypt, saudi arabia most likely the united states on one side along with jordan and iran syria, if syria survives and iraq. >> right, right. >> and iraq on the other side after a trillion dollars, after 4,000 american lives, this is what 2003 has brought us. >> with that backdrop take a look at this. the new issue of the "new york times" magazine takes an

in-depth look at the flood of foreigners joining isis and other extremist groups particularly from great britain. the cover story is titled "her majesty's jihadists" and the author of the piece, mary ann weaver joins us now. mary anne this is incredible. joe, you and i have been talking about this for weeks in terms of why they do it. now these numbers. >> i'm looking at what mary anne's done. if we could keep you on set for a week so we could talk about pakistan and egypt, two books you've written about. but now isis. you know after a terror attack we always have people coming on our show foreign policy experts and terror experts wrings their hands talking about the disaffected young arab man who comes from a poor background who has been trampled underfoot by western hodgeegemony. you report a lot of these people

from britain are middle-class well toll do. >> middle-class well-to-do, well educated. a large number of students graduate students doctors, lawyers, economists. this is not a movement of the lumpen proletariat. >> you've just described osama bin laden and ayman al zawahiri the leaders of al qaeda. >> one of the things that was most alarming to me was the realization that yes, there was osama bin laden, that was the first generation. this is now the third generation of western men and women who have embraced jihad. >> what draws them what attracts them to this air of unreality on the reality. >> specifically in britain because that's what you're reporting on here. >> i think there's a negative and a positive. i think the negative is lack of assimilation assimilation. i think if you're a young man or

increasingly a young woman in britain and you have to say "am i british or am i islamic? am i muslim? where does my identity rest?" and i think the lack of integration is the negative. i also think that they feel very strongly that the community of muslims is under attack. it's us against them. >> so the lack of integration that you find in britain, that you find in france is the nature of american society the fact that you are able to integrate probably a bit bitter here than you might be able to in london or paris? is that one reason why we don't see as many homegrown fighters here based on what you've studied? >> all right. i went to a neighborhood that is right on the fringe of london aldgate east it used to be largely jewish neighborhood now it has the largest mosque in britain and i got lost when i

was en route to the office to where i was to meet someone and i went down all of these little tiny alleyways, cul-de-sacs. i was the only woman in evidence who was not veiled. and i'm not talking just about the hijab, the head scarf. i'm talking about in some instances the full face veil. i felt more -- and i've never felt that way. if i go to atlantic avenue in brooklyn for example, i don't feel i have that to wear a veil. >> but you say they seemingly have an identity crisis in that are they british or are they muslim? but it's not as if muslims are recent arrivals in great britain. >> no, they're not. and this is one -- i talked to a number of young men and a couple of young women. they were second generation. their parents were -- their parents came to britain, they wanted to be british. they wanted to do everything to become part of the homeland. whereas this generation now with

islamism, with jihadism with muslim identity being much stronger now they are rejecting what their parents and their parents' generation wanted. >> you've written about why they do it. what can be done about it? >> well i think first of all i think there's got to be more of a sense of you belong here we belong with you. i think there's got to be integration, more integration. i think that bills like this new counterterrorism security bill that has recently been passed by the british parliament, that is not the answer. that is even more exclusion. and, three, vis-a-vis their feeling that they and the muslim community are under attack they look at us they see what they perceive to be indiscriminate bombing led by the united states, whether we're talking

about syria or iraq or assistance in yemen and they feel, again, it is muslims under attack. >> let me repeat this. "more british muslim men have joined isis and the nusra front that are serving in the british armed forces." is this as revelatory a piece of information in great britain as it is to us here? >> i was astonished. >> i'm astonished. >> i really was. and this was something i've spent a lot of time reporting on the islamic world. this was the first time i'd been to britain and it's astonishing. there are 600 to 700 britts who are either serving with isis or the al nusra front. 600 to 700 and they are arriving according to the best intelligence estimate 1,000 foreigners men, are joining isis per month. >> certainly a reason that we have to look at this in a whole

different light and not the stereotypical way. mary anne weaver. thank you very much. her piece is the cover story this in sunday's "new york tiem times" magazine. thank you very much. >> he's behind the legendary roles including "fraser" and "sideshow bob." we'll look at kelsey grammer and the roles he will be playing.

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>> we live by the hook! >> wow! that looks good doesn't he? >> he is special. >> that was the scene from the new musical "finding neverland." front and center none other than kelsey grammer as captain hook. joining us the director of the show tony winner diane paulus. she's done a few things in her life. she's the artistic director at the american repertoire theater at harvard and things like that. how did last night go opening night, right? >> it was a brilliant opening night. >> you weren't stressed at all? >> you know you work so hard by opening night as the director it's really the moment to give the construction to the public. it's a rite of passage for the whole company and it's always this special celebration of the cast's work you know? and they did so well last night and it was such an amazing reception. >> how did harvey do last night? did he survive?

was he pacing back and forth wildly? >> he survived? >> it has to be though,ing? big and this anticipated it has to be nerve-wracking for you, for harvey for everybody who's hosting. >> i think, you know, for us we've been through opening nights in the theater before. this was a first for harvey so you know i was like it's going to be okay trust me. he was great. he was so proud. >> and kelsey grammer, just really special. you said he was special. he really is. >> he's so special. what's extraordinary about him, he's such an amazing performer, he's a tremendous human being, such a leader of our company, so generous and creative and matthew morrison too, two leading men who couldn't have been more special human being and artists. >> what is it about the story of peter pan that my two older boys and i would sit and watch the movie, my younger kid, it really is timeless and we'll go see this and it will be special. what is it about this story? >> well, everybody knows peter pan but what makes this special, it's the story behind peter pan,

how peter pan was made. we don't remember that in 1904 peter pan was a radical experiment and it was avant-garde and crazy. that's what i love about this show. it celebrates originality, it celebrates the courage to be who you can be to write your own story. it celebrates family. i have two girls, i made the show for them and it's really a show that reaches audiences of all ages. >> that's fantastic. >> for those who didn't see the movie, and i saw the play in cambridge. >> yes. >> last fall. but there's an element. that includes power of the emergency nation in this play that really becomes vivid. almost electric. especially for kids. you can imagine -- you can just imagine entities that when you sit there watching it. >> well, that's what i wanted to direct it. not every film can be a musical, but this film deserves a musical theater expression. because it's about the imagination which is timeless which is powerful and it just

allows us new the theater to turn the kensington gardens into a lagoon and you see all the seeds of how peter pan was corrected through tracking j.m. barrie's life through these kids. >> i just love it. i was looking at your list of accomplishments and i didn't see mother of two daughters so i'm adding it. >> that's a big one. you wanted to go into politics, right? >> i was born and raised in new york city, loved new york all my life. wanted to be mayor of new york but i find i'm forming lives through theater. >> and there's still sometime. >> at the end of "indiana jones and the last crusade" the knight said you chose wisely. >> great to have you on. up next his clients include cameron diaz sarah jessica parker daniel craig. the star of bravo's hit show "million dollar listing new york." frederik eklund is here and he's next on "morning joe."

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>> i got a call from a buyer that came to my open house and i gotten a offer. >> good morning, fredrick, how are you? nice to see you.

>> but the one thing i was afraid of of course happened so i have an offer, $60 million. with a couple minor tweaks. >> define tweaks. >> he wants to blow out the master to make it bigger he wants to blow out the kitchen and add a swimming pool. >> no no and no. >> wait why no? okay, hold on that was a look at season four of "million dollar listing new york. requests joining us now real estate broker fredrick eklund, he's the author of the new book "the sell. the secrets of selling anything to anyone." i want to hear how to do that. but finish what happened there. they want to put a pool where the kitchen was? >> yeah, the buyer wanted some changes to new development and they didn't allow any changes but the deal did happen and the building is now sold out, about $150 million sellout. >> good god, who are these

people? but you got the deal done. >> yes, at full affect ask. >> so is that part of the sell. why did you write this book? >> well, i came to new york now 13 years ago and i didn't know new york didn't nope the names of the streets or the neighborhoods and now for the second year in a row i've been named the number one broker in all of manhattan, 30,000 agents and i thought it would be a good time to share that journey and all my secrets of selling. >> that's incredible. >> so we go through your secrets. >> 13 years ago you came here and knew nothing. ? >> give us your secrets. >> you say be you. >> yes, the first part of the book is being you. i did that mistake when i first came to new york. instead of being the guy you see on the show high-kicking and a bit eccentric and colorful just authentic me i watered myself down and i was nervous and i tried to copy other big real estate agents in the city and that's a mistake we all do when we're new to something. so really sharing the authentic you to the world is -- reality

tv has taught me to be me and that's when i become more successful. >> you say find your message and your audience. >> yes. i go through in the book how to obviously, promote yourself on social media, how to pitch yourself, how to dress. i have systems in place to make my day more efficient, my team of course, closing the deal all of that yes. >> you have something here interesting third chapter, you talk about shadowing a winner. i love that advice. talk about it. >> well when i first came to new york became a real estate agent i sat by myself i was very alone, i didn't know anything. and i lost a lot of time. i think the biggest advice i can give to someone new in the industry, any industry really, is to find the top person within the industry maybe work for free for sick months sit there in a team as a sponge and just learn, listen. >> that's brilliant advice. mika you've talked about this a lot. a lot of millennials especially come out and they want to run

something -- >> they want to run the place. >> 23, 24 instead of finding somebody. i had a -- you know it took me fellier to figure out -- i would say you need to find the right general. that's what they say inside the pentagon. find the right general and anything's possible. you have to find the person and say "why does it work for them? what do they do right?" sounds like that's the advice. >> and while not everyone can work for free the point is important. come in at an angle where they don't owe you anything at this point and you can give and learn and grow from it without the pressure of having -- go ahead barnicle. >> clear something up. you come from sweden 13 years ago, you don't know the industry, you don't know the streets. how do you start selling real estate? >> i got my license and i stlat with no clients and i had a dream to be successful and to be one with new york but it took me a while to get started. i got my first clients and i did my first deal and i remember i framed that show heat on my wall

and i was so proud and so incredibly excited to be able to make money in something so fun, to sell real estate. today i have a team 11 people and we close $1.1 billion last year. i do a lot of new development so i'm part of the team to actually program these big, big skyscrapers sometimes, maximizing light and air, the amenity spaces, the sales galleries, pricing them out and, of course selling them. >> let's talk about quickly filling up. we're a political show here mainly. >> we're good at that. >> you look at a guy like marco rubio, for instance, people are saying, oh he's getting ahead of himself, he might fall flat on his face. i look at your chapter on failing up and it's all about taking the chance to fail because that's the only way you succeed. you have a quote from thomas edison who said "the secret to success is failing a thousand times." >> yeah i fail several times everyday. i think what i do is we lose a lot of deals and we win a lot of deals.

it took me a while to realize it's really just understanding that picking yourself up and not even -- the word fail injury so negative but you know it's part of being successful. i think all auk saysful people know failing is important. i like the naysayers, people saying no to me. i see that almost like a road map to where i should go and in big conference rooms when we're discussing new buildings, if everyone's agreeing i almost start to think i'm going to go the other direction. >> there's a song that kate sings in the backseat of the car everyday now -- >> not about the pony? >> no not about the magical pony. it's "don't believe me just watch." and that's basically what you're saying. what's the hottest neighborhood in new york? >> so many. lower east side is really hot. >> i've been hearing about the lower east side for a while. this has been a ten-year promise. is the lower east side really starting to take off? >> how do you define hot.

as an agent, it's important for me to tell my buyers where to buy in the future. so i think east village is really undervalued because soho is so expensive. the most expensive neighborhood in new york. it surpassed tribeca. but everything is moving east and south. >> this is the guy who didn't know street names 13 years ago. the book is "the sell." and million dollar listing new york airs wednesdays at 10:00 p.m. on bravo. fredrick eklund thank you so much. >> thank you guys for having me. >> nice to meet you and congratulations of the baby on the way. up next what if anything did we learn today?

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welcome back kids. time to talk about what we learned today. mika, what did you learn? >> oh my gosh. well, i learned i think we need to go to "finding neverland." that looked good. what did you learn today? >> well i'm going to ask mike. mike, what did you learn? >> i learned two things. you're right "finding neverland." is great. my new hero is the cop into the car who crashed into the guy with the shotgun alleviate ago lot of problems. >> john meacham, what did you learn today? >> i learned there's such a thing as a gyrocopter. i thought gyro was a sandwich. i learned you can fly anything you want around washington, d.c. >> and you can give them about an hour warning, fly from gettysburg -- >> you can put in the your local

paper, you can blog about it and then you can give them an hour's notice then you can fly into the capitol and land right there on the lawn. >> i also learned people from tennessee and northwest florida have no problem just saying "shoot 'er down." >> way too early, what time is it? >> now it's time for "the run down" straight ahead. have a great day, everybody. good morning, i'm jose diaz-balart. developing right now on t run down a stunt turns into a secure scare on capitol hill. a florida postal worker expected to appear in court soon, a day after letting a gyrocopter at the u.s. capitol, causing a major security incident. doug hughes piloted his small open-cockpit craft from gettysburg pennsylvania, to washington, d.c. through restricted airspace and then a no-fly zone before plopping down on congress's west