un. that was heroic. spectacularly well done. the force is with you. well done. and thanks to you at home for staying with us the next hour. the force is with you too. the reason i'm doing the show in beautiful washington, d.c. is because i got an interview with the top in the senate, senator harry reid. like when we had to bleep him. >> that is so timely. yesterday on the senate floor, john mccain came to me and told me, that little incident we had together where i said -- us did this, i'm going to kick the [ bleep ] out of you -- >> i did not see that coming. that part of our conversation, i will have for you in just a moment. it was really funny. it's even funnier totally in context. but in this interview today, senator reid made headline

national news when he told me that he has a plan, before today, was a secret plan, apparently, to try to confirm loretta lynch to be the attorney general of the united states. this is the current attorney general of the united states. who the republicans don't like. eric holder is the current ag. and they made him wait for eight days, after his hearings for eight days on the floor of the senate. before eric holder, the attorney general was michael mukasi. and alberto gonzales and jarrett reno and dick thornburg. and one of the things about loretta lynch. if you take all the time the last nominees in to wait on the senate floor for a vote and you

take the wait time con bined and double it, loretta lynch has waited longer than that. she has waited longer than five months without getting a vote in the senate. loretta lynch, five months and counting. senate republicans will not schedule a vote on her. and they are in charge of the senate. what can you do. and senator harry reid told me that republicans are in control and democrats are not, and he is a democrat, he has a trick up his sleeve, that will allow him and the democrats to force a vote on loretta lynch, really? watch. one thing that has not been done and a historic delay, the nomination of loretta lynch to be the next attorney general of the united states. what is going on there? >> the first part of may, she

will have been in limbo, in purgatory six months. and we had republicans, mccain, mcconnell, saying what a good women she was. they are not allowing a vote. we are basing it on shell evidence. we are here trying to have a woman confirmed as attorney general of the united states. and i want to say this to all your viewers. we put up with this far too long. and we're going to either have a vote on her very soon. i will create one. i know parliamentary procedure around here. we will put up with it a little

longer. >> you have a way --. >> i will force a vote. >> what will take it to happen? >> i had a conversation today. with a number of rep republicans who say they have to get it done or they have an opportunity to vote against here. >> okay. that was a surprise. senator harry reid telling me, i know parliamentary procedure around here. we are going to put up with it a little while longer but not much. we will have a vote for her soon. what senator reid is preparing on doing to get a new attorney general in the country f, if he is proposing what i think he is proposing, it would be upset against the senate.

but it's not against the rules. with the republicans holding the majority, that means mitch mcconnell gets to vote on what gets on the committee. and it's not on the floor for a vote because mitch mcconnell doesn't want to. what he thinks he can do, because loretta lynch did clear the committee, he thinks because of that he can break protocol and himself call for a vote on her nomination. it's not the way they do things. democrats are not in control of the senate. but technically, he is not breaking the rules and he could need 50% of the senators to put her up far vote. there are 50 senators that confirm. it's a democrats and a small number of republicans.

this scheme, it's not how the senate runs but it is what he says he is now willing to do. and when he told me that in the interview today, and we released the clip, it went off like a shot heard around the world. we don't know that harry reid could do that. and it got covered nationwide. and word came back. this is politico today, he can't force a vote on her. harry reid thinks he can. he responded to the republicans today with this tweet, quote, i want everybody to know that loretta lynch's nomination will not remain in purgatory forever. he seems to think it can work. he does seem to have the republicans a little rattled. they may be scoffing at him and say it's nothing they are worried about. but they do seem a little

rattled. i will tell you how i know. there are a lot of things about going to the u.s. capitol. it's nice, should you go. first, it's pretty. it's lovely. you might against a chance to get up close and personal with lbj. it was trying to get the i'm squeezing your head thing. and one of the things about going to the capitol means you can pick up this in person. this is the printed calendar of business for the senate. i asked. it's okay to take. thursday, april 16th, senate convenes at 10:00 a.m. and it say what is today's pending business is. it's printed. senate bill 178, a bill to provide justice to the victims of trafficking. this is the bill the republicans are using for not voting on loretta lynch.

and the anti-abortion language that democrats will not pass. until, there is no vote on loretta lynch. they had plans to go ahead with this this morning, it was printed out. it was today's pending business and they yanked it at the last minute. and nobody knew why. now we know they yanked it right after harry reid told republican senators that he was going to pull this stunt, that he was going to bunk protocol and dump the silverware drawer on the floor. he apparently this morning told them that plan and shortly there after, they ranked their own bill, which they other wise had planned on voting today. senator reid's office told us

they don't know why the republicans freaked out and yanked their own bill they had scheduled right after harry reid through this particular variety of hard ball at them. but senator reid told us, it's a heck of a coincidence. so is senator reid bluffing? if he can force a vote, so we get a new attorney general, will it pass? will even the republicans who support loretta lynch to be the next attorney general, will they will afraid to support her this way and does it mean we will finally get a new attorney general after they force loretta lynch to wait longer, more than twice as long as the others had to wait combined. frank, it was nice to see you today after the interview and it's nice to have you here.

thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> after what happened today with what senator reid has threatened and the way it's received, are we any closer to getting loretta lynch -- >> i think it's not as effective as senator reid hoped it would be. he is a jedi master, to use a "star wars" term but what he is talking about is a simple majority. and the five republicans that said they would vote for it are unlikely to go to force the vote. the vote is going to happen after the terrificing bill. so it's highly unlikely you will see the five republicans vote with senator reid to try to force mcconnell's hand on this. >> although, the case on the

democratic side of this, looking at a guy like senator mark kirk in illinois who has a hard re-election up in 2016 and is trying to tact to the center, tact to the left so he can appeal to a blue state, he won't want to be seen as voting no on loretta lynch and the democrats will try to hang that around him. even though he will have to say, as his defense, it wasn't a vote on the substance of her, it was a procedural vote to not vote on her at all. >> that is true. but we saw the tactics happen when the government shut down. they tried to force republicans' hands and force them to vote on whether or not to open the government back up or not. and it didn't really work. not only that, but working for republicans in the situation is just the fact that they seem to

be very close to a deal on the trafficking bill, which is the big hold up. and senator mcconnell said they are trying to force it and dot the ts and cross the is. but at the same time, we don't know whether or not the deal will materialize. if they do vote on that, mcconnell said it will take a day to consider and they will get to loretta lynch before they move on to the iran sanctions, the deal they plan to do next week as well. >> if they move on the trafficking bill, if they break the impasse on that, that will happen as soon as next week? the next few days? >> if they come up with a deal and mcconnell stays true to his word, they could see it as soon as tuesday or wednesday. but the senate moving really slow. it's hard to predict when they are going to get an agreement,

early next week could be what they -- when they can actually finish it up. but it could leak into the end of the week as well. if they can't get an agreement, it can continue for weeks. >> that's right. and mitch mcconnell did vote she could have a vote on the week of march 16th. they could make sure he is get voted on at the beginning of the session. so the -- i don't trust anybody as far as i can throw them in the game. but it's a more interesting game all the time. frank, thanks for helping us understand. >> thanks. >> a busy show, stay with us. >> you tell me you remember the vegas visit. and i had never seen you standing. >> i always tell people that is my super power, that i'm secretly enormous. e® 21 day challenge. use listerine® and over 21 days

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in case you were wondering in the interview with harry reid why he was wearing sun glass inside, it's not because john mccoin followed through on his threat to beat up senator reid, he is still recovering from an exercise equipment accident that left him blind in one right eye. i asked him about the accident and how he was feeling and his response was more on less, could be worse. >> things happen. this was a freak accident and i'm not blind in my right eye. but i'm so grateful it didn't do any damage to my brain. almost got smacked in the temple there. and i'm -- accepted where i am and i look around, it's easy to do. people have a few more problems than i have. the main problem of not being able to see out of one eye, it takes awhile for my brain to

adjust. so i have trouble with depth perception. i stumble a bit. but i will be fine. >> i'll be fine. brain will adjust. we will have more on the show. and his take on why women are the best thing ever to happen to

>> thnchs is katherine cortez masto, the attorney general from the state of nevada and he is

senator harry reid's pick to succeed him from the senate seat. senator reid runs the democrats in washington and he has been in washington more than 30 years but he has run the democratic politics of his home state and it's interesting that he wants a woman to hold on to his seat for the democratic party. it's interesting and very deliberate. watch what he says about his home state and women if office. should we think of nevada as a blue state or in flux. >> i think it's a blue state. a lot of states had a terrible cycle. he had damage done but the party organization line helped develop is still there. and i'm -- one of the things i was happy to work towards is have nevada the third state in

the union to decide who is going to be the president. i'm happy about that. and nevada is a blue state and hillary clinton likely will prove that without any doubt. >> no terms of secretary clinton and her candidacy, it's historic if she is just the democratic nominee. there is never a woman that has been the presidential nominee. and if she is elected, all the more. you said the greatest change in the senate over the time you have been here is the increasing number of females here. what is different about female senators? >> two things i want to talk about about my experience in the senate. one that is really positive and one isn't. and when i came, it was barbara mckolski and that is it. now we have lots of senators and i said and i repeat it here on

your show. the senate is better because of women. men and women are different. i'm so impressed with how women appear to me to be more patient. they are less inclined to do things like war. like -- i just -- i mean, i just am -- i wish i could articulate the way i really feel about how much better the senate is because of women. >> in terms of women's leadership in the senate, it seems like senator schumer is going to be releasing you as democratic leader and others have played leaders over time, would it change to have a woman as senate majority or minority leader? >> i'm so happy, gratified that we have women who lead the

committees. feinstein, works, patty murray, budget. maria cantwell, small business. on and on with the women who are just so dynamic and prior to mccullski and i comes here, the answer is question. the country is ready for a woman to be president of the united states and of course the senate's ready for a woman being -- it's just a question of time until they will replace reid and schumer, there will be leaders that come from the ranks of women who serve so adequately here in the senate. >> in terms of -- i guess in terms of women and men being

different and female and male senators havinging different styles, you said something to my colleague john harwood about john mccain. senator john mccain, i told john harwood, had threatened to kirk the bleep out of you. was john mccain actually threatening to beat you up? >> this is so timely. yesterday on the senate floor john mccain came to me and told me, that little incident we had together where i said -- because you did this, i'm going to kick the bleep out of you and i said to you, if i were in your position, i would do the same thing. he said, you know, i felt so sentimental when i heard you say that. john mccain and i are friends. we came to the house together. we came to the senate together. >> so there is no actual threat of violence?

>> yeah that is how we talk to each other. i would like to tell everything here that my female colleagues have said something comparable. >> and women and men are not that different on that score. >> let the record show that i actually said bleep. senator reid did not say bleep. we had to add the bleep. i had to bleeping idea that was part of the job. that is what they do. senator reid said there in the exchange there is one great thing that changed in the senate since he has been there and that the influx of women and there is also one terrible change. and here is what he thinks is the terrible change. >> i talked about what is good in the senate since i have been here, and that is women. and what is bad is the supreme court making this horrible,

rotten decision, citizens united. it has changed the country dramatically. we have 15 people in the country who are making major decisions for all of us with hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. the court have agreed to spend $1 billion in the election. is that america? i don't think so. so if i can wave a magic wand, i will say i want the supreme court to reverse that decision so there is control on how much money can be spend on the campaign. >> without the magic wand, what can be done? i was surprised to see senator clinton put that at the forefront of what she wants to do. if that is what she runs on, that is right at the senator of american politics. and the point of focus for a national debate.

what can be done? >> you can change the law and make it a great deal. when we had 59 senators and had a vote, it was the disclose act and the people had to disclose the money they gave. a lot of it is hidden money. you never know where the money is coming from and we lost that. not a single republican. not a single republican voted with us. we got 59 votes, every democrat voted for it so there could be disclosure. is if there was a law passed and the people with the dark money would have to come out of hiding and tell us who they are, that would be a big help. >> senator harry reid speaking to me today at the capitol. and senator hillary clinton, one of the things she is trying to fix. she said this week in iowa it may take an amendment to fix big money.

and short of that, if there were more democrats in congress, they could pass a change in the law, pass a legislation to at vooes prevent the money from being anonymous. there is lots more ahead. stay with us. >> john mccain came to me and told me, he said that little incident we had together where i said you -- you did this i'm going to kick the [ bleep ] out of you. game night. ooh, it's a house and a car! so far, you're horrible at this, flo. yeah, no talent for drawing, flo. house! car! oh, raise the roof! no one? remember when we used to raise the roof, diane? oh, quiet, richard i'm trying to make sense of flo's terrible drawing. i'll draw the pants off that thing. oh, oh, hats on hamburgers! dancing! drive-in movie theater! home and auto. lamp! squares. stupid, dumb. lines. [ alarm rings ] no! home and auto bundle from progressive. saves you money.

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so minnesota's getting weird. earlier this week, we reported that the minnesota state senate decided to keep its rule for forbidding senators to make eye continue with each other. and the radical change of being allowed to have water at their desks. but it turns out the minnesota state government has another controversy. the umlauts. the umlauts over a town were removed by highway signs. this is a town that calls itself america's little sweden. the umlott is important to them and to have the state take it away, it was shocking.

well, yesterday, because state government is more heroic. red, the minnesota government ordered the state department to reinstate the dots on the road signs. he said if i have to drive to lindstrom and paint the dots, i will do it. and see lindstrom has the umlauts. and the lawmakers are happy to have debates about icon tract rules and whether or not they are allowed to drink water. and governors will drive across the states to add umlauts themselves. and a case that is more serious than that. and nobody is talking about it. that is the big story next.

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in the '80s, the federal government intentionally crashed a airplane. this is not a conspiracy theory from a rand paul website. this actually happened and the

plane was not a prototype, or on milt airplane. what they crashed on purpose was a full size commercial airliner. it happened in california. the government took a boeing 720 airliner in the desert and crashed it in the ground. the idea was to test a new fuel additive to make it less combustible. could it haem them from bursting into planes on crash. they flew the plane. by remote control and this is how it went. the less combustible jet fuel in a passenger airliner. watch. >> 100. >> another view through a camera

in the nose of the plane, right until the time the lens breaks. >> yeah, so that didn't work. that was the supposedly less combustible jet fuel bursting into flames just like it wasn't supposed to. this is the view from inside the cabin of the plane. the test dummies handle the impact of the crash and the cabin fills with flames and it's bye-bye to the dummies. and when we think about the test crash stuff, it's usually the cars and the dummies in the steering column. but sometimes it's a full sized plane so the government can see what happens when you crash something like that in the ground. sometimes it's planes and sometimes it's automobiles but sometimes what the government are crashing on purpose are trains. >> at a railroad testing grounds in colorado today, the

department of transportation sends two cars at 26 miles an hour into a concrete wall. here it is again, different view. and unusual test to learn more about rail car safety. >> that high speed crash test of a passenger train car was conducted by the federal railroad administration. they wanted to see how passenger trains could be made safer in the event of a crash. so they started crashing them into walls in colorado. the federal railroad administration. it sounds like an agency that we got rid of in the 1800s. it's not as ancient as it sounds and it's supposed to make sure what is happening on the rails in america and happening safely. in the 21st century is a concern.

this is what is happening an the rails around the country with increasing regularity. this is an oil train that exploded in illinois last month. 100 tanker cars filled if oil and when it derailed, the cars exploded and the fire could not be put out for ways. and mount carbon, west virginia, the cars full of oil exploded and turned that air in in west virginia into the scene of a flaming inferno. it led to the evacuation of hundreds of people and threatened the drinking supply in the area. and a few months before, lynchburg, virginia, and the cars full of oil blew up in the city along the banks of the james river. this is not in the middle of nowhere. it was in lynchburg. it's the nightmare scenario if you sat at a railroad crossing

in your town and have seen the oil cars rumble by. a bunch of the tanker cars full of oil just dumped their contents right into the james river. it caused the evacuation of hundreds of people. incredibly, nobody was killed. this keeping happens. and one after another, we have watched as the oil trains roll with increasing frequency, we have seen the trains one reason or the other derail and we wait for local first responders to tend. and really, they burn for days. but in that equation n the burn, derail, erupt equation, the erupting part is not necessarily

a given. trains carry hazardous material but they don't always have fire balls they can't put out. trains carrying hazardous material is not a new phenomenon. but what is a phenomenon is where they are coming from and what exactly they are carrying. is how many cars of crude oil was travels in the end of the bush administration in 2008. this is now, and the oil fields of north dakota. and that matters because that particular oil is really freaking combustible. and as the trains have been going off like bombs one after another all across the country, will is a policy question about what the government can do to make it more safe.

and the answer to that question is in part the federal railroad administration. the administration that sounds like an old fashioned agency but it does things like crashing train cars into calls in colorado to see how to make them safer. now what we need are rules how to make the bomb trains safer. next month we expect new rules from the obama administration to tell them what they got to do to prevent more of this from happening across the country. this is a fight that is going on for months now. largely behind closed doors. i'm desperate to know what they are going on to come with up. i want to know if it's enough to make news shows from action movies about the end of the world.

we have scored our second great interview tonight. the woman who is now in charge

of making sure that trains are safe, including the oil trains that seem to be blowing up around the country. she joins us live in the studio in a momentum. i'm so looking forward to this. please stay with us. . it feels like that brick's on your face? try zyrtec®-d to powerfully clear your blocked nose and relieve your other allergy symptoms. so you can breathe easier all day. zyrtec®-d. find it at the pharmacy counter.

one of the challenges we face. how do you safely move energy products like this, very volatile, flammable products across the country, from the ground to the refineries on the coast.

>> that is sarah fienberg speaking in february at the site of an oil train explosion in west virginia that led to the evacuation of hundreds of people. and it was a little personal from her because she is is from that area. sarah feinberg joins us on set. >> and thank you for having me and the reporting you have been doing a long time. >> i won'ter what it feels like to see the footage of the trains blowing up. i mean, obviously, it's your job to fix it. did i feel you have a grasp of what is happening. is it just volume or are we doing something wrong? >> it's volume. it's quantities in the tank cars as we have never seen before. it's a volatile energy product. it's not just your typical heavy crude that has moved for a long

time and it's moving more than 1,000 miles on average to either direction to the coast. so it's a lot of product and it's moving a really long ways. >> and terms of what the product is, in this case, is that clear and does everybody on all sides of this agree that the oil from north dakota, the shale oil, is a more combustible material. that it's more dangerous to ship? is that contested science? >> i think everybody agrees it's volatile. it's a flammable and con bustible liquid. and those will say crude is crude, there is risk. there are others that believe you can lower the volatility. right now, it's an on going debate. the department of energy is teaming up with the department -- you know if you are lowering the volatility you make it safer. but what all do you need to do to take it safer for transport?

>> it is a hugely expensive to make it more expensive? it's my understanding, there are a lot experience to conditioning the oil so it's safer to ship. >> i'm not an expert on physics and taking volatility out of products. but it's done in texas before it's put in pipelines and shipped. it's a possibility and it can be done. but the science is still out how to treat the product before placing in transport. >> i want to play the footage from you in mount carbon in part because there were not a lot of reporters on the site. >> my hometown reporters. >> and some of the things happen in the middle of city center. it's hard to get the footage of what happened. having been there, can you give

us a sense of how big of conflagration it is? >> if you have a smaller incident, the firefighters have a chance. but the reality is, this product is explosive. it's reacts violently. the best thing is to be trained how to respond to the incidents. in mount carbon, they did the right thing. they got everybody out of the way. they got everybody out of harm's way. >> they are doing harm reduction. they are not stopping the problem. >> you are evacuating, trying to buy time. >> the oil industry is the most profitable industry. when we look at the rules to get safety standards improved, should we look at the railroad industry as partner who want to

work on this because it affects their bottom line too or are they get snapshot and see just

the ball and make sure we're making this as safe as possible. >> thank you for being willing to talk with us about it. this is something that freaks me out. it's nice to be able to talk to you actively involved in trying to fix it. sarah feinberg, the acting administrator of the federal railroad administration which is a thing that your tax dollars pay for. aren't you glad? we'll be right back.

this is not a story about football but this is one of the best newscasts about football that i have ever seen.

>> the chicago bears have one of the worst records in pro football. one win, five losses so far this season. the low point came last sunday when had he lost to the previously winless washington redskins. the paying fans expected a better product. even the players who are the product admit it's not much good. >> they deserved every single boo that we got. >> one bear fan who is tired of getting mad decided to get even with the bears by suing them for damages. >> jim tully, a salesman, has filed a small claims suit charging the chicago bears with consumer fraud and asking a judge to award him and his wife the cost of two game tickets, transportation and a baby-sitter for the last game. $58.40 all together. >> october 1981, they paid 16 bucks each for two seats on the 40 yard line plus 18 bucks for gas plus $15 for a baby-sitter plus $2.40 for tolls and he wanted it all back. his lawsuit claimed that the

chicago bears were lying to customers when they tried to pass themselves off as a professional team. he did not get his money back from the bears but he tried. and this week, another disgruntled illinois man on the sidelines is trying again. except this time he doesn't want his money back from a terrible illinois football team. this time he wants his money back from a terrible illinois congressman. he is suing recently resigned illinois congressman aaron schock for fraud. howard foster says he donated 500 bucks to the campaign. 2012 because he believed schock was an ethical man, a breath of fresh air in illinois politics and that he had a bright future in congress, but the lawsuit says "the opposite was true and while aaron schock may have been a new young face in congress, he willingly followed well tread paths of political she's for personal gain." and so the dude wants his

donation back. he wants to make it a class action lawsuit where au of aaron schock's donors can get their money back because he was such a fraud. congressman aaron schock resigned last month after an ethics probe started to digging into his handling of campaign money. as he announced his resignation that probe yielded to what is now a federal criminal investigation into him. and while aaron schock has personal little left congress now, it's interesting. his office is still there and his staff is still there working in what is now known as the office of the 18th congressional district of illinois. they're still doing all the things congressional offices do like constituent services with no member of congress. but because his staffers are still working in congress, they have a responsibility to notify congress as an institution if they receive, say, a subpoena. and this week are, that happened. four of aaron schock's former staffers who all still work for congress if not him, four had to

officially report to congress that they got subpoenas to testify before a grand jury in illinois investigating aaron schock. and as illinois prepares to run a special election to replace him in congress now that he's resigned, one county in his district is so annoyed with having to replace lim under the circumstance they have just sent aaron schock a bill for moisture it will cost that county to hold the special election for his seat. an invoice for $76,000. payable upon receipt, please. latest fec filings out yesterday show the former congressman's campaign treasury in the first quarter of this year spent over $3,000 on bowls from tiff ofnys and even more than that on gourmet popcorn for campaign volunteers. aaron schock made being a congressman seem really glamorous, made it seem really fun. seems like he had a ball being a member of congress. it will be interesting to find out how he paid for all of that. but there does now seem to be an inverse relationship between how

much fun he had while in office and this opposite of fun that is piling up on him now since he quit. watch this space. "first look" is up next. >> good friday morning. right now on "first look," stuck inside a plane's cargo hold. the call for help. >> hello. i'm trapped in this plane, i called my job but i'm in this plane. you're where? >> and the energy call got even more bizarre. a new study that shows a connection between snoring and sleep apnea to memory loss. a new star wars trailer sent stock up $2 million and we've got it for you. you think your winter was tough, check out these towering snow walls. and one of the most dizzying