tv NOW With Alex Wagner MSNBC April 17, 2015 1:00pm-2:01pm PDT
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a car bomb explodes directly outside the u.s. consulate in iraq. the massive sony hack just got worse for everyone involved. and "star wars" is breaking the internet. but first, jeb bush wants to have his pie and eat it, too. it's friday april 17th, and this is "now." >> hell with the diet. >> bush is taking his message to voters with a stop of politics and pie in concord. >> campaigns need to be about the future not the past. >> this will be the first time bush and rubio crossed paths since rubio launched his campaign. >> he said, he's a great guy, and you will not hear me criticize rubio. >> if rubio ever gets close to jeb bush in the polls, i cannot imagine that promise being kept. >> jeb bush speaking in
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manchester. >> the world that we're in is radically different than it was when my brother was up here. >> i have to prove that i'm not trying to break the tie between the adams family and the bush family. >> less than ten months before the first primary of 2016. republican presidential hopefuls are descending on the state of new hampshire. kicking off today, the new hampshire republican committee is first in the nation forum. a chance for those with an eye on the white house to break out of a crowded field in a crucial state. more than a dozen potential candidates are featured on the roster and within the half-hour, we are set to hear from jeb bush, a man putting all his eggs in new hampshire's basket at least literally. last night bush took the radical step of not only herb shooing his pail owe diet to eat pie, but also calling on congress to confirm attorney general nominee loretta lynch.
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>> i think presidents have the right to pick their team. there should be some deference to the executive. this should not always be partisan. >> those remarks put bush in the awkward position of agreeing with president obama, who aired his frustration over the stalled confirmation at a press conference this afternoon. >> there are times where the dysfunction in the senate just goes too far. this is an example of it. it's gone too far. enough. enough. >> up in new hampshire, bush also set himself apart on immigration, confronting a participant who said bush's immigration policies would be a tough sell. >> i respect your view but i don't have to agree to it. i'm not going to pull back from a belief that we need to create a society where high sustained economic growth -- it's not a zero sum game in my mind. a person coming that can create a contribution creates an
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opportunity for the next person. >> but it is not all party bucking. the one republican jeb does not appear eager to distance himself from is perhaps the one that could hurt him the most his brother. governor bush was asked today if he wanted to point out any differences he might have with his brother on for example foreign policy. >> look the circumstances for today are different than they were in 2000. certainly different than they were in 1988. so there's a whole new set of challenges. whole new set of opportunities. the world that we're in is radically different than it was when my brother was up here in 1999. >> jeb bush should hope so, because new hampshire dealt george w. bush a defeat in its 2000 primary. joining me now is msnbc political correspondent casey hunt. casey, how is jeb playing in new hampshire? he's taking a lot more questions, a lot more forth right it seems with reporters in the media than some of the other candidates are.
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>> reporter: good afternoon, alex. yes. jeb bush has been taking all questions from all comers here. that event that you showed with us at the snow shoe club a pretty classic venue in new hampshire. he asked what they were saying as he said they didn't have them in miami, florida. but he also has been taking question after question from reporter. it's a marked contrast with both hillary clinton, for example, but also with wisconsin governor scott walker, who since he got himself into a little bit of trouble with some questions a few months ago, has basically gone underground and has not taken questions from reporters here in new hampshire. he is scheduled to do a retail event on sunday morning. so we'll see if that holds. >> i know that governor christie is speaking behind you, and i thank you for doing this television in the middle of one of the appearances that i know you're going to have to cover. in terms of this massive drop of republican candidates on the
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state of new hampshire, who has sort of taken to the trail with the greatest facility as far as you've seen in the last few hours? days? >> reporter: i think that governor chris christie has distinguished himself here as the type of candidate who might take well. i think you've seen that reflected in the pages of the new hampshire union leader which was a pretty influential newspaper here. i think you're seeing frit the stage behind me now. taken a series of questions, put himself on display as this person who's going to tell you like it is. even if it's unpopular. and he's backed that up with policies as well. he made a major speech on entitlements proposing raising the social security retirement age. basically touching that third rail. so i think that you know people have written christie off in large part because of the bridge scandal. i think it's a distinct possibility that this is the state where he could potentially see some sort of comeback. i think that jeb bush has also
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endeared himself to many of the voters by taking question after question. he's been asked about those two issues on his right flank, both common core and immigration. so i think we'll see how that plays with the base over time. >> i want to bring in al cardin as chairman of the american conservative union. al thanks for joining me. i want to get your read on jeb bush's response to the george w. bush question specifically as it pertains to foreign policy. jeb bush at this point seems content to buck conventional wisdom to buck more conservative members of the republican base on issues including immigration and common core. are you surprised by what seems to be a somewhat vague answer in terms of how much he would heed to his brother's stance on international policy? >> well, look i think he's trying to do something that most folks thought unthinkable, and that is run a joyful campaign have it be open have it be
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transparent, but you're witnessing as you cover this presidential primary and now in new hampshire the fact that he's so much more open than anyone else. and he's being truthful. the world is different. it shifts. and every time there's a new geopolitical dynamic, your choices are different. so to give a specific point of view on foreign policy with all these moving parts, it's not really wise. i think people need to capture generally your points of view about foreign policy and i think he's done that. he said he wants america to be strong militarily. he wants america to identify its friends and identify its enemies and act accordingly. i think little by little he's defining who he's going to be. circumstances are different, but his values will come across in a way where americans can pretty much predict what his actions will be when a set of facts are before him. >> do you think the bush campaign is concerned by chris christie trying to make a play in new hampshire, by
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chris christie coming out with a plan for reforming the social safety net and specifically social security, something that jeb bush seems to be onboard with? do you think that's a threat? >> well look there are a lot of people that are involved who are qualified candidates who are already in the race. the only thing jeb bush can do is do what he does best and that's campaign create a good structure, have the resources to be competitive. but i think if he starts worrying about who else may jump or not jump in he's wasting a lot of time. chris christie needs to do what rudy giuliani couldn't do. rudy giuliani was a really popular mayor right after 9/11 who did real well in the northeast and kept postponing his chances because he couldn't do well elsewhere. by the time florida came along, he imploded. so chris christie may have a warm reception in new hampshire. he's got to see how voters in south carolina and iowa and elsewhere feel about him. but look he's got to do what
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everybody else will do. take a look at the polls, take a look at how many people are giving him financial support dip his toe in the water and figure out what he wants to do. we'll see. but if he jumps in, welcome. there are a lot of folks in the pool already. >> there are indeed. i want to bring in a reporter for bloomberg politics dave wiegle. i think a lot of folks were surprised to hear jeb bush say it's time for republicans to let loretta lynch go and by go i mean confirm the woman. the country's black, african-american female attorney general. how much do you think his talking abouts on these issues taking more centrist position shifts the landscape of the presidential field? >> i actually think if you're talking about this field, jeb bush does the least to move it in any direction. i don't see any voters or candidates really responding to what he does. certainly today, no one else decides to jump in the water. rand paul, who is very
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competitive with him in new hampshire, has said she's bad on civil issues. he's the frontrunner, he's like a planet that nothing else is really orbiting around. a planet people feel safe around right now. >> what does that mean he's a planet that nobody's orbiting around? can he continue being that planet through primary season? can he continue to talk about immigration reform and common core and actually not take the typical line when it comes to partisan politics? can he continue tootd that and remain viable in the race? do that and remain viable in the race? >> he can. so far, other people have done a better job of making the race about one of their issues. chris christie has done that wrongly before. this week trying to move the conversation toward social security reform is something that has always played well in this state and i haven't seen jeb bush do the same with
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immigration. but there is no frontrunner here. no one who is in the room just now packing the place for chris christie thought they were looking at a frontrunner. no one has really moved the debate because no one's really above 15% support. >> al, if you have chris christie trying entitlement reform and you have marco rubio who sponsored and was a huge hand in the senate the gang of eight immigration reform proposal i mean does that threaten jeb bush owning either one of those issues? >> well i have a prediction. and that is that by the end of this journey, jeb bush will be greatly advantaged by his position on immigration. here's why. i think most other candidates have been able to hide behind the word amnesty. when the sky clears and you get off of that the basic question is what are you going to do with 12 million people who are undocumented in this country?
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no one can deport 12 million people. it's not feasible. so what's your answer? he's already given an answer. he said look, i'll do what i need to do. but we've got to have an answer and a legalization with the appropriate remedies and penalties seems to be the only remedy. now, everybody else is poopooing that, but when you start asking them i will bet you anything that in of them will be for deporting 12 million people. and when they get to that answer, then folks are going to say, well, what are you doing? you've been dancing around this thing for a year. you've been criticizing jeb bush. and by the end of the journey, you're going to be in the same place he is. and so i think everybody's going to come to jeb's side of the equation. when it comes to fixing immigration. i think jeb's going to look like the one who had the courage to stick his head out first and foremost. the one who stood by the criticism. and the others eventually have to reluctantly join because they have no answer to what they
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would do to these 12 million undocumented people. so at the end of the journey, when you guys in the press do your job, you press them against the wall and ask them what they specifically would do they're all going to join jeb's camp, i bet you. >> we will continue to press them against that wall. thank you guys all for your time. after the break, a u.s. consulate is attacked in one of the safest cities in iraq. plus wikileaks publishes more than 30,000 personal e-mails and private files from lastier's sony hack, asserting the documents belong in the public domain. and later gwyneth paltrow fails the food stamp challenge, but gives herself a c-minus anyway. all of that is on "now."
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in the iraqi city of erbil today, a car bomb exploded directly outside the u.s. consulate. the state department says all consulate personnel have been accounted for. according to kurdish officials, two people were killed and eight are injured. an american working in erbil said he was sitting on the roof of his hotel about half a mile from the consulate and felt the shock waves. if i could feel the blast from here it must have been pretty significant, he said. the room shook, and a few things fell off the shelves. although no group has claimed responsibility for the bombing, a prominent iraq-based isis supporter has been tweeting that isis was boston the explosion. it represents the first direct attack on u.s. facilities since isis took control over large areas of the country last summer. joining me now is nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel. richard, thanks for joining me. i know we have a slight delay,
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so i'll get right to it. erbil is known as one of the safest cities in iraq. and i wonder how much this upends that perception dramatically? >> reporter: it is certainly something that u.s. military personnel, u.s. diplomats are going to be concerned about. they had felt that erbil was a relative pocket of safety. it is in the autonomous kurdish region of northern iraq. the kurds have been working very closely and have for many years with the u.s. government they consider very close allies. and it wasn't just in erbil it was in an area of erbil, a neighborhood very close to the airport. you do go to cafes. it is not like being in baghdad or parts of central or let alone
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northern iraq these days. we do have some new information about the casualties from that attack. a car bomb that exploded in front of the u.s. consulate there. a medical official in erbil has told us that an american woman was injured. that she has second-degree burns. that she's being treated at a local hospital. that her condition is not considered to be life-threatening. that she worked as a teacher in an elementary school and that the director of the school identified her as american. >> so, richard all of this is happening against a pretty violent backdrop across the country. we know there were two car bombs in baghdad. the largest oil refinery there's fighting happening around there. give us a sense of the worsening picture in iraq on whole.
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>> reporter: well it is -- it is so complex in iraq right now. i remember how the u.s. government and the u.s. military were struggling to deal with a very aggressive insurgency in iraq in the years of 2006-2007. and at the time there was tens of thousands of american troops on the ground. there was a white house that was completely dedicated to the project. there was a single strategy that was being carried out. and even with all of that effort, the challenge of fighting back an insurgency was enormous. now you have the u.s. involved with air power and a few advisers. but you also have the iranians involved. you have shia militia involved. shia tribes involved. the iraqi army carrying out its own security plan. so you have several different actors all operating, not always
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in concert, and that is -- to tackle an insurgency that is better armed and better motivated than even the insurgency that u.s. troops were fighting in 2007-2008. so it is an enormously difficult problem with a fractured alliance. >> nbc's richard engel. thank you, as always, richard, for the update. the attack near the u.s. consulate in erbil comes as the u.s. is confronting the risk of terrorism at home. today a columbus man indicted on federal terrorism charges pleaded not guilty to plotting to attack a u.s. military base. prosecutors say the 23-year-old returned to the u.s. to carry out a terror attack after training with a terrorist group in syria. according to the indictment, he said he wanted to go to a military base in texas and kill three or four american soldiers
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execution style. joining me now is senior analyst with flash point global partners. >> thank you, alex. >> the timeline on this is particularly distressing. the events leading to mohammed's arrest -- he became a u.s. citizen in february of 2014. how did that happen? >> well look. the u.s. security forces work in very sophisticated manner. to go through a complex processes, you know vetting every single lead every single red flag every single posting on social media and private communications, surveillance, so on, so forth. so it's likely that the evidence wasn't solid yet. it appears he brought his ticket to travel to athens but he actually had to stop in turkey. two months after he received the citizenship, which was in april 2014. he went to syria for only two months. he returned in june.
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in june that's when his brother was killed in syria. so it's really interesting that he might have returned after his brother was killed or just because he finished his training of six to eight weeks. >> the fact that he was able to go and come back after receiving that training also raises some questions. >> sure, it does raise some questions. but i think the u.s. security forces were pretty vigilant at tracking his moves. and the moment he returned, they arrested him. they had to gather enough evidence to be able to detain him and indict him. >> with lone wolves if we can call them that there's a lot of debate over whether or not they fit a particular profile. but we keep coming back to brothers who are radicalized -- if not in tandem, then generally the same timeframe. i wonder from your perspective, what do we glean from that and is that any use in trying to understand things domestically? >> absolutely.
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we saw it in the "charlie hebdo" attack. we saw it with the boston bombings. it seems like you have the peer pressure that exists within the family structure. brothers that will look out for each other. when one of them goes radical, his younger brother could easily be radicalized because he looks up to his brother. this has been a trend that goes back all the way to pre-9/11. you saw a lot of saudis chechens joining al qaeda who were brothers or cousins from the same family structure. i wonder how they use that to disrupt future networks. >> i think it's legitimate. when one member of the family adopts an ideology, it's important for the security apparatus to check on the entire family and check what has been going on. any red flags that they can track and trace and see where they can go from there.
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and now, we present the stories that will absolutely dominate your entire weekend conversation. gwyneth paltrow has given up on her food stamp challenge after just four days. wikileaks is creating more misery for sony pictures creating an online searchable database of hacked sony e-mails, and jerry seinfeld calls youtube a gigantic garbage can.
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actually a giant garbage can. but first, two verbal tirades caught on camera went viral this week. the first starring normally mild-mannered d-wade turned out to be a fake "funny or die" video. the second showing britt mchenry belittling a virginia towing company employee was, unfortunately, very real. >> it's why i have a dug. i wouldn't work at a slum like this. that's all you care about is just taking people's money. with no education. do you feel good about your job? so i could be a college dropout and do the same thing? lose some weight baby girl. >> espn responded by suspending her for a week. she said in an intense and stressful moment i said some insulting and regrettable
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things. i am so sorry for my actions and will learn from this mistake. joining me now is chris hayes, jess mcintosh, and contributing head or the for "new york" magazine annie lowery. all right, chris, so let's talk about britt mchenry. polarized the internet. where do you stand on the reaction and the punishment? >> okay so a, let's say just absolutely inexcusable horrendous behavior that i think just as an independent judgment of her character, i don't know her at all, and it's an edited videotape. >> it is an edited videotape. >> importantly. but, reveals i think something deeply dark and messed up in her character. and i would hope that i would never act that way. i don't think i would. i don't think people that i love or care for or friends with would ever say those kinds of things although would say things. like i can see myself losing it with someone. just not saying those things. all of that said, the reminder of the ceaseless modern
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surveillance in every sort of iteration. and she's warned of it. she looks up into it. and people said to me she invokes her job and she's a public figure and represent the brand of espn all of which i get, but i do worry about creating norms in which private behavior of being a jerk becomes -- i'm serious, subject for labor punishment. and not for the britt mchenrys or the chris hayess or alex wagners of the world, but for people that work in other environments in an age of social media, when you come interview for your job as a claims adjuster and someone saw the picture of you at the party and you're fired. >> but this in particular rankles the people who watch it all of us. i mean there's like identity politics. there's fat-shaming. there's classism. there are a lot of very -- >> it's like bingo. she said it all. >> it's like wack-a-mole. >> it's disgusting.
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>> i guess maybe i think this is different than doing something stupid. >> i just don't think that it was a private moment of jerkry. like she was saying this to another human being. and if you're having a conversation with a friend and somebody's sitting at the table next to you is filming you, i think that that would be the grossest violation of privacy, even if you were saying things that were as bad as she was caught. she chose to say that to another human being. that's not private. >> there are people that look at this, i think megan garber in "the atlantic" is one who sort of sees this as a positive development in a way. she writes technology at large has afforded a reciprocity between a people who in a previous era would have occupied different mace places on the spectrum of power. it's basically taking britt mchenry for task for what she said although she's not doing that herself. but by virtue of this videotape, she gets some kind of justice or heat.
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>> yeah, i mean that's not quite the lesson that i take from it. in this case i agree, britt mchenry was doing something really rude. it's especially chilling that she delivers it not in this hot heated she's losing her temper manner, but she sounds like regina george. >> from "mean girls." >> yeah. that's all very weird. but i think that we've now entered this period where there's this real backlash to the backlash. there's a book that's become very popular about whether we've gone too far in the public shaming of people for things that are just you know, they're accidents, they're transgressions, but they're pretty human. i think that this definitely caused me to think about what if my worst moments with customer service representatives were caught on tape. it's chilling to think about that. so that's sort of the lesson that i took away from it. i think that britt mchenry her behavior was reprehensible, but i don't think it's the sort of thing he the should have lost her job for. >> well she's been suspended for one week.
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she has not lost her job. >> but there were people who were like she should lose her job for this. i think that maybe the punishment in this case fits the crime. but i do kind of feel bad for her as well as the woman who got really yelled at here. >> from one controversial woman to another controversial woman -- >> segue. >> i didn't say anything about the hair color, which they also both have in common. gwyneth paltrow admits to failing her $29 a week food stamp challenge after just four days writing on her blog my perspective has been forever altered by how difficult it was to eat wholesome nutritious food on that budget even just for a few days. this has actually set the internet aflame. >> it's the limes. she bought seven limes. >> is it a good thing that she did this? that we're even talking about it it? >> i get the microcriticism of gwyneth paltrow being the most absurdly wrong messenger for this ever and that she went about it in the strangest,
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funniest way possible. i get the micropoverty tourism is problematic and we step into that realm way too often. so i get both of those things. that said, i have been in a setting like this discussing snap twice now this week. and that had never happened in my career. and i think it is awesome in a moment when we are doing terrible things to poor people in terms of policing them in terms of what kind of food they can buy, whether they can take their kids to the movies. we are being mean bullies when it comes to poor people at snap benefits. and i am really happy that i have a second to say that. >> there are people that have taken to internet and written essays and so forth that say you know, one of the biggest offenses here is that she didn't approach the snap challenge in the way that low-income people actually do, which is not by running out to safeway and grabbing what you can get. you actually have to have a strategy. you have to find the cheapest grocery store. you have to think about the most
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ka nutritious foods you can get for the lowest dollar. she kind of just went out and did this sort of gwyneth paltrow shop. if that's such a thing. >> basically -- look, the entire enterprise is a ridiculous stunt. i guess i would say like don't overthink it. it's a ridiculous stunt. that is an amazing institution. those people are incredible. they're not only making sure people get fed, but fighting battles on capitol hill. like they are the voice of righteousness, to not cut people's food stamps purely out of some punitive disgust for poor people or some belief that they're undeserving. so i guess my feeling is a little bit like jess's. if all this cashes out to people talking about the food bank then that's all good.
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>> so i think two things. i'm totally with jess and chris that i think she was on the side of the angels here. it's really difficult to live on the kind of constrained budgets that poor folks live on. i think there's all sorts of technical problems with the food stamp challenge, which is that even most people on food stamps that's not all of the money that they spend on food. of course, they're very burdened in other ways. they need to pay for gas and electricity. but putting all of that aside, i think that there's something kind of horrible about the fact that so many celebrities and public figures have done these food stamp challenges and it's gwyneth that's getting all of this hate. >> when she announced that she was consciously uncoupleing from the food stamp challenge -- >> i think it's a good thing that she did it. i agree maybe the way she went around it was ridiculous but at the end i think she probably empathized with these people. >> and a bag of black licorice. i want your thoughts on this
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chris. more grief for sony pictures as wikileaks republishes all of its hacked e-mails online in an easy-to-use searchable database. according to julian assange this shows the inner workings of an influential multi-national corporation. it is newsworthy and at the center of geopolitical conflict. agree or disagree. >> i really genuinely feel torn about this one. i felt torn about the sony hack from the beginning. as a reporter my feeling is i don't judge where information comes from as long as i can verify it. a source can leak something to me for completely nefarious reasons, but if the data and information is newsworthy that's not my problem, right? >> do you think independent of you being a reporter, as a citizen -- >> so that's the broader question. this was a crime committed for certain ends to embarrass sony and there islyly
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ickey feeling about it being used in the same way as the stone documents. but at least an affirmative division by a whistleblower. this was a sheer criminal act to intimidate and basically extract something from a company, it appears. >> and a private american business is not exactly the same as the federal government. >> going back to the private moments of jerkry. i think an e-mail between co-workers is something you don't expect especially if you're working the entertainment industry and you're not subject to all sorts of archiving processes like the federal government is. like you expect that that's going to stay private. >> it has, i think, forever changed the way anybody in any corporation, including this building including myself e-mails. >> as long as they don't come for our g-chat transcripts. >> oh lord. >> help all of us. >> it's all done.
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the shower. ♪ the more you know ♪ technology jobs are growing at a rate three times faster than any other private sector job in the country. nowhere are those jobs more concentrated than the place whose name is synonymous with the industry itself, silicon valley. hbo's start-up send-up of the same name silicon valley debuted last year with more than a few laughs. the second episode of its second season airs on sunday. earlier this week i sat down with one of the show's stars, zack woods. zack congratulations on being in one of the funniest shows on tv, and on hbo, which has a very high bar. >> thank you. >> what is it about "silicon valley" that makes it so hilarious in your mind? >> i think it's a few things. i think one thing that's funny
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about "silicon valley" is there's all these guys who have incredible resource incredible wealth and no social skills. they're like these massive -- they're like tycoons, they're like vanderbilt or rockefeller, but they have no interpersonal skills at all. that's funny to me. also i think it's funny that there's these guys who run these enormous organizations, but have the sort of affectation of being like kind of an every man. >> like mark zuckerberg in sandals. no big deal. >> i'm wearing crocs, i couldn't possibly run the world. >> we were talking about the apple iwatch. it's amazing to me the resignation that i have at least when it's like oh a new apple product. i don't want it, i don't need it but there's no way -- i'm going to have it. >> it's a mandate. >> the tech industry exerts this disproportionate pull over our everyday lives. i feel like we've just capitulated to it. >> that's so interesting.
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i had a smashed up iphone 4 for a long time. >> it's like a political statement. >> but people used to -- when people would see it i would feel like they'd give me these very withering looks. like it was a moral failure to not have the most updated version of the technology. >> do you feel like you pay more attention to the news out of silicon valley now that you're on a show that focuses so much on the culture around "silicon valley"? >> yeah, totally. i was pretty tech illiterate before and still am. but now when i see articles in the newspaper, i'm much more inclined. >> like angel funding. there's like a whole lingo that goes along with it. >> i don't know the whole lexicon, but i'm more interested in it. and i've met some of these people. "silicon valley" will sometimes have these screenings and it's weird to be in a room with people that are hot shots, but i have no idea who they are. so i think i'm often not
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appropriately -- >> deferential? >> yeah because i don't know. >> is it seen as a mark of accomplishment to be parodied on "silicon valley," if you're in actual silicon valley? >> i think so. i think people like being made fun of as long as the ridicule is accurate. i think people basically just want to be paid attention to and known. so if you're getting it right, if it's familiar to them, it's a type of flattery in a way. even if you're skewering them i think just saying this is worthy of attention and this is worthy of being attuned to the specifics of that world enough to make fun of it is flattering. >> you also are in "veep." and i wonder which is more of a comedic gold mine washington, d.c. and politics or the west coast and technology. >> it's interesting. someone told me once that like the most important thing in new york is money. the most important thing in d.c. is power. and the most important thing in l.a. is funny. so that's sort of the -- >> what a lovely country we live
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in. god bless america. >> so with "silicon valley," i feel like maybe the thing -- maybe the degree to which you're an iconoclast, that you're a successful rogue. so i don't know which is more funny. i think they're both pretty funny. i think the idea of people just tirelessly desperately pursuing power is funny. and also people trying to be like you know, this god -- >> nonchalant. "silicon valley" airs sunday at 10:00 p.m. on hbo. coming up have you felt it yet? there's a great dispurr bansturbance in the force. more on that after the break. my sister had to come help. i don't like asking for help. i took tylenol but i had to take six pills to get through the day. so my daughter brought over some aleve. it's just two pills, all day! and now, i'm back!
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>> chewy. we're home. >> as of this afternoon, the youtube clip has over 22 million views, meaning about one million people are watching it every hour. the teaser alone has reportedly added $2 billion to the stock value of the studio's parent company disney. twitter has released its own emojis to coincide with the trailer. and a japanese airline is rolling out a 787 airplane painted like r2d2. because why not? the kicker to all of this hype. this mash-up of matthew mcconaughey's character in "interstellar" watching the "star wars" trailer. the force is indeed strong. that is all for this show. "the ed show" is coming up next.
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good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" live from detroit lakes, minnesota. it's friday. let's get to work. tonight, myth-busting the trade deal. >> this is the most far-reaching and progressive trade promotion authority that we've seen going through congress. plus the tulsa deputy's story. >> i still can't believe it happened. and the republican king maker. >> welcome aboard. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. hillary clinton has broken her silence on the transpacific partnership. her spokesperson nick merrill e-mailed this statement to "the ed show" just moments ago and it reads. hillary clinton believes that any new trade measure has to pass two tests. first, it should put us in a position to protect american
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