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what has she talked about so far? we will take a closer look at the madness. also ahead on the show this appears to be miami's moment with jeb bush and marco rubio in the race. we're going travel down to south florida in an effort to find out how voters there are split between rubio and bush. >> and the make believe world would not be the same without a body guard by the president's side. the real world president of the united states is dealing with a huge rift inside his own party.

more on that ahead. but we again this morning in new hampshire where a major early test for the 2016 presidential field has been playing out. 19 in all. 19 total 2016 hopefuls trying to differentiate themsels from the rest of the pack. day two of the first in the nation summit. yesterday also featuring john casik. his debut after raising expectations that he may go ahead and launch a late starting run for the white house. mike huckabee announcing that he will make a final decision in

early may. rand paul posting this picture in front of town hall upon his arrival in the state before greeting voters in a local diner out there. wisconsin governor scott runner could right now be considered the front runner on the republican side. >> the only pension system fully funded in the country. we have a debt in pension system that is one of the lowest out there. we no longer fund planned parenthood in the state of wisconsin. we signed concealed carry so that law-abiding citizens can have access to firearms who protect themselves their family and loved ones. we passed just about a month ago, the u.s. supreme court took action to allow us to uphold the

law that says if you want to vote in wisconsin you have to carry a photo id to prove who you are. we don't just want a fighter. they want someone who fights and wins. >> walker has been at or near the top of the field nationally ever since january. he has also been attacking president obama. showing walker ahead by double digits in that state, more than doubling up jeb bush who sits all the way back in fourth place this. jeb bush saying he doesn't see a coronation in his party coming his way and you can see why. there is a crowded field of republican candidate but moat

are giving the impression that they are less concerned about beating up on each other than the former secretary of state. the audience was eating up some of the anti-hillary clinton rhetoric. >> we get to august and am bas dour stevens is sending his own cables. we are worried about being overrun by the jihadist. i think her not doing her job, her not providing security for our forces for our diplomatic missions should forever preclude her from holding higher office. >> every time i ever ran for public office i ran against the clinton political machine. i ran against their money. i ran against them. if somebody wants to know what is it like running against their

organization and their apparatus, come see me. i will be happy to tell you. >> a weak america doesn't get it. we need a strong america to send a message to our strength that america is back and this can be done. >> the next 20 months are going to be a dangerous time. the next 20 months will be like lord of the flies. but january 2017 is coming. >> let's bring in this morning's panel now, robert costa joins us

now live. i guess 19 speeches from possible or actual republican presidential candidates. let me start with the keynoter. so a lot of attention and pressure. how did he do in the spotlight? >> i was inside of the room and walker impressed. it was a tight crowd. he sat next to former governor. it seems to be impressing the new hampshire voters. >> so you had ted cruz rand paul did anybody else surprise you or stand out or cause a

positive reaction from the activists up there? >> i think you have got to pay attention to john. cy asked him yesterday about how to go after clinton he said republicans have got take a step back and find a way to be more electable and talk about compassion in a different way. i think he sees the field and sees an opportunity and looking for a late opportunity tlr is a story that you and karen wrote for the washington post in today's paper. the headline is new hampshire could be make or break for jeb bush. there will probably be more independents than usual. we always talk about iowa and

angel angelicals. he has got win new hampshire and your early response was what? >> it was pretty good. in some respects it was muted. bush is getting more loose on the campaign trail. he had pie. he said he may be on a diet but he had a slice. in bush's favor is he's comfortable giving his own view. he is not going to win new hampshire or south carolina. new hampshire, this is the place that bush needs to win. his allies says he just needs to place in the top tier but the way the presidential elections win now you have to wip something in the first three. >> it's hard if you can't win one of the first three states.

robert used the term muted. i think back to his reaction to george w. so many jokes. he mangles the english language but george w. connected with crowds. there was a populous appeal to him. >> i think what you see with jeb is somebody who dezoes a better job connecting one-on-one. he comes across rather well. i have got tell you watching the reaction of the people to scott walker, i truly hope that they will scratch a bit below the surface. they react so well when he gives the speech telling of his ash lishmentes. dig a little. i have never seen a candidate who twists a record in the same way. >> you had the experience of

working for george w. bush. wham do you -- >> they are two different brothers. george bush the president, connects well with the voters. where jeb bush gets it is on the policy angle. he can tell you legislation. he is very involved in what it is in making decisions when he was a governor. that's why he is so loved by floridians and still is. he' trying to commit from the emotional standpoint. hillary clinton should take some tips from jeb by basically saying i'm here to work for every single vote and persuade people to go with me but he is facing challenges. that's why they're looking at fresh faces saying is it a rubio or walker? i wonder to a certain point is

he going to be ready, what it takes nationally to win this election. >> rick makes the point that you want to take a closer look at the walker record. but in terms of what he is tapping into, i want to play this. >> we had to carry independents by 11 almost 12 points. you don't win the center by running to the center. you win the center by leading. they want people to stand up and look you in the eye and tell you kpablgtly what you're going do. they don't have to agree with you on every single issue.

>> i'm listening to that. you don't win the center by going to the center. this is the dream message. you can have your cake and eat it too. he's saying look i have won, i have profd it. >> when he was running for governor we're not talking about a lot of democrats who are maybe coming up to the polls. people are already strongly liberal or conservative. i think he's got a lot more to prove than just his record in wisconsin. >> he did, casey hunt did talk

to him and ask him a question after his speech and she asked if he would attend a gay wedding. let's play what he said. >> would you attend a gay wedding? >> in terms of that's certainly a personal issue for a family member p. we already had a family member who had a reception and that's truly my position is defined a man and woman. but for someone i love we have been at a reception. >> a simple yes or no would have done right? >> this is only going continue. >> this is becoming a question that err candidate is going get

i think. >> this is going to likely consume the republican primary. republicans may want to avoid the social issue but these will be right at the forefront of the party debate. this is something that republicans are still grappling with. they don't have a response. >> we're running low on time here. i wanted to put the whole weekend into perspective here. >> someone urnd the radar but someone you have covered so closely, chris christie. he has a lot of troubles with new jersey's problems right now.

>> all right robert thank you for getting up early in new hampshire. and coming up next first lady michelle obama met a founding father last night. sort of. we will explain that on the other side of the the break. and later, jeb bush and marco rubio are three miles and how many points apart? >> at that moment i thought he was entirely too young. he looked like he has just stepped out of high school. rubio proved me wrong and i am so happy. it took tennis legend serena williams, fencing champion tim morehouse and the rockettes years to master their craft. but only moments to master paying bills at chase.com.

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all right. we have a lot going on this morning. let's go to the wall street journal. >> michelle obama. you can see the actors backstage. let's see what else is in the news. my kind of country. 90% of the bets say it's going to be a girl.

>> look at how that shapes up. >> it could be a princess. >> why not sam or samantha. >> it sounds like alice in wonder land. >> didn't england have a prun sess alice who was mad? >> big story today.

fbi admits errors. years worth of false matches on crime scene hair. they have reviewed 268 trials. 95% of the cases. nearly every examiner compares a flawed testimony in almost all trials that they offer gins criminal defendants. >> that's bad. i tell you what they found interesting. they don't actually say if it was negligent or intentional. >> i think it's such a critical topic. i think it's going to be a big issue.

>> i think they can get past this. the sorts of stories. they have this story hitting today. it's interesting to see. how about this from wbtv in north carolina. memorials could be sent through a children's hospital. north carolina is a swing state. there's a guy who really likes to get the last word. >> yes. and there's still dead people that vote. think on that.

>> we have got one more. why he quit the daily show. interviewing john stewart who said i covered an election four times. >> i think that speaks to the political system and how burnt out people are on watching election election. it seems like they start earlier and earlier. >> i will never be burnt out on election. >> without john steward, that hour on comedy central -- >> go steve. get in there. >> it's more for us. up next a closer look at the agenda hillary clinton mapped out in iowa. and how will jeb bush handle challengers on the right who say he isn't young enough or conservative enough. >> i hope you absorb the record.

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>> i will have a lot more to say about this as the campaign goes forward. >> here are the positions that she did take as a candidate. >> building a work study. saying we need to expand pre-k,

make equal pay laws more enforceable enforceable. >> we are really missing out on economic opportunities because we haven't been able to agree on immigration reform. no we're not going to make it easy for you. >> no real surprise. they pretty much represent is standard democratic checklist. >> this deck is still stacked for those at the top. we need to reshuffle the deck

that plays a better hand. >> now that she's an official candidate it would be a lot harder for clinton to avoid weighing in. >> she was able to build an organization. he didn't have to get a position. >> she has more time because you know, by this fall they will be in the middle of a bunch of debates. but i think the big challenge for her, the issue that she touched on income and equality

she needs to explain what she will do that's different than what is already been done. in the 90s, the answer was clear. now it is increasingly clear that there are structural changes in the economy. that some people are being left behind and you have to come up with solutions that will address those structural things. and so it's going to be both as you said checking the box on issues that really stir the passions of democrats but also explaining how the path forward will be different. >> we're also seeing some of the other things. she got into all sorts of color.

started the wheels coming off the wagon. supports giving driver's licenses to undocumented workers. the former governor of maryland looking to potentially run against her. >> i'm glad secretary clinton has come around to the right positions. i believe we're best when we lead according to our principles and not the poles. leadership is about making the right decision and the best decision before sometimes

becomes entirely poplar. >> it seems these positions that hillary clinton has now on gay marriage it's a no-brainer if you're a democrat running for office right now. >> you know she's always been sort of a lagger on gay marriage within her party. she finally came out in favor of it a full year after president obama did. she said that she hadn't been able to speak out her feelings because she was a public official. so no i don't know she gets a lot of credit because there is a con sis tent pattern of her being behind where most people in her party are on this issue.

>> let me read the panel in here. curious what you guys make of the hillary clinton you are seeing this time around. >> i wish i could sit here and say it's been a wonderful week but it isn't. all political campaigns are contrived. but the whole point of a good one is to contrive the campaign to not appear contrived. it's just been horrible. i think she should have been way better served to come out and really start talking about the issues. she did snake some issue discussions in but they were pretty much missed among all the crazy stuff that was getting the coverage. >> it's been a huge distraction. we didn't even know she was talking about these messages. you know the server over in chipotle, the staged appearance

with the family. it's been a disaster for the first week. the message is getting lost. >> i'm not sure it has been that disastrous. it does look contrived. >> i would say that the message has gotten lost partly because of the media's coverage. these are things that are very standard. we need to fix immigration. everyone is saying that. republicans are saying that when they're speaking in new hampshire. i think that i guess, is the more interesting part of the clinton campaign. >> what's amazing to me.

there were many seniors who wanted to get a clims of hillary clinton. the van drove right past them they never got a look at her. >> could she -- harass couldcould they see the group of senior citizens that were camped out and running like wild animals? thanks for getting up early. still ahead on the show. how marco rubio may be criticizing his former mentor jeb bush without mentioning his name. and it's the eve of the second boston marathon to be held since the bombings. stay with us. ♪ ♪ the beautiful sound of customers

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>> so here's a plausible scenario. republican voters in key early states they end up being split next year unable to decide whether a member of the gop establishment or a younger more conservative upstart would be the best nominee to win back the white house from them. let's see the two competing front runners end up being jeb bush and marko rubio. that means that sometime in mid march of next year bush and rubio could be looking. they are not only do bush and rubio call the state of florida home but they both call the city of miami home.

they live three miles apart from each other. how these allies could become rivals in the face for president. >> this is an interesting place. if you go about a mile and a half that way jeb bush lives that way and if you go due west about two miles, there is marco rubio. >> a lot of people don't know exactly how to handle it. >> we have two good men. >> jeb bush is one of the best governors we have ever had. a person that wanted to be fair to marco rubio would say a semi meteoric rise. he was a commissioner a

relatively small town in west miami. >> when my term expired in april of 98 marco rubio was the one that was elected and sat in my seat. at that moment i thought he was entirely too young. he looked like he has had just stepped out of high school. rubio proved me wrong and i am so happy and i will admit it every day of my life. >> i was a democratic leader when marco was the speaker and jeb was the governor. >> marco rubio comes from west miami, working class roots. jeb was entrenched in helping

build this community from a business perspective. >> a lot of positive sentiment for jeb versus marco. >> i think that governors will have an advantage because the american people will want someone with experience as an executive running an organization. >> i am registered as a democrat but i always vote for the krek person in this coming election it's not democrat or republicaner it's rubio. >> you will see some of us go one way and some go the other. the important thing for those of

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>> that was marco rubio launching his candidacy. making use not only of the word yesterday but saying generation or generational seven times. marco rubio will tell you he was referring to hillary clinton but he could also be taking shots at jeb bush. in the last segment we reported from there. now i want to ask the panel. >> really that jumped right out ruching the rubio speech on monday night. >> she's yesterday, she's been

on the stage without ever having to say jeb bush's name, though. >> he's a little light on policy issues because of experience. jeb bush has a lot of executive experience and on the campaign stage it's not quite as energetic. >> that's the other contrast right? if you're stark pressing the generational issues then the question is you can be ole, you can look old. jeb bush he seems to act his age in speeches. you feel the generational distance. >> rubio can say it worked for president obama. >> right. but we want to have the fresh

face. we want to make sure we're able to bring together the establishment and tea party folks together. the question will become does rubio have the experience? is he able to push through knowing there is such division between bush and rubio. >> i don't think it will be generational in the fight for republican nomination. should rubio get the nomination i think it will become hugely generational in that fight. you will look at the pictures and say who is that old lady or that kid in high school. whichever way you answer that question -- it is interesting. the last bush clinton race the theme was generational. it was bill clinton, the boomer the voice of this generation

against the last world war ii vet to be president. >> marco rubio spees like a grown up but he speaks like a young kid. >> we heard this from a congressman. if you're looking at what republicans are looking for and maybe what swing voters are looking for, they always tend to look at the end of a suspectcy for the opposite of that. barack obama was a senator with no senate experience. others who may say that's not a problem. others may safe wait a minute that's the same background as bm. >> we want executive experience. >> foreign policy could be very.

rubio did serve on the foreign relations committee. is it enough to convince voters to go his way? >> foreign policy is his specialty. he has tried to to make a corner stone of who he is. these are big issues and i think he's trying to play. >> yet, nobody in this country has the foreign policy experience of joe biden and we don't even talk about his name any more. >> that's a different story. >> it's true. when it comes to experience, we value it so much but in other ways we want freshness. >> although it's interesting the generational thing on cuba. he is with the older generation. >> sure. it's very, very personal.

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this sunday morning. it is the 20th anniversary of the worst act of domestic terrorism in american history? we're going preview a day full of events. is that faction of the right likely to have the same impact in 2016? could he be seeing more christine o'donnells next year? >> also it's getting to be crunch time for president obama on a key initiative that is splitting his party apart. we will take a look at what that issue is and where it stands a little later this hour and we will take a look at the make

believe world of the presidency. he will join us to talk all about that show later this hour. but we begin with a birthday. >> they huddled in the rain in washington. lined up in the sun in florida. along roads, at city halls and parks, hundreds of protests with a single message. >> this was today's national tea party. tea as dm taxed enough already. >> so that was six years ago this week. the first mass gathering of the tea party movement which over the next few months would become a dominant player in american politics. tea party helped to chase

specter away from the democratic party and into the republican party. >> the political atmosphere obviously, has been toxic. and it's very clear that some of the votes that i have cast have added to the toxic environment. >> there were several more tea party wins. >> i'm not a witch. i'm nothing you have heard.

i'm you. >> fast forward to 2013 and was able to force an unpopular shut down. the influence is undeniable and there are currently three declaredial candidates whose early tea party support helped make them senators. that path had a lot more obstacles the last time mccain sought reelection. >> with all the illegals in america, more than half come through arizona. we have got the right plan. plan's perfect. you bring troops state, county and local and state lawmakers together and complete the dang fence. >> what influence does the tea

party have today? we will discuss this with our panel, mercedes rick unger and lauren fox are all back with us. we are joined by a member of the house tea party congress live from wichita. i wanted to just ask you a big picture question. we say it's the sixth year anniversary from the start of the tea party movement. you came to congress in the big republican class of 2010. when you look at the origins and where we are now, what would you say is the biggest success of the tea party movement has been? >> i think we have changed the debate in washington. instead of talking about bigger government and bailouts and obama care we have talked about the constitution smaller government reducing taxes that we haven't always been

successful about making that happen. when the phones light up salespeople start e-mailing and calling in. >> what is the biggest fact your? >> probably to reign in spending. we have dialed back spending. people are still worried across america where they say they're members of the tea party or not they are worried about the future of the american dream. >> what about the role of tea party lawmakers like you within the republican party in

washington? he basically instituted a purge and you were thrown off of a key committee post. what is that relationship like in congress? >> that's nothing new with washington insiders. washington is about spending more money and taking away our liberties and the rest of america says we have had enough. he understands the conservative values and protecting marriage and life and liberty. those are eninherent to the republican party.

>> i voted against john boehner twice. what i hear from americans is they're ready for change and ready for a republican party that does in washington what they say they will do on their platform. we peel obama care. and what we have seen in the last three months is going in the wrong direction. again when the phone lines light up millions of americans start calling in and that's when you see the tea party has a major impact in washington d.c. >> all right. appreciate you getting up early.

thanks for the time. >> thank you. >> and now for another perspective we are joined by steve in washington. he is close to house speaker john boehner. let me just start with this. polling shows strong support of the idea of comprehensive reform. what do you think that does to the image of the republican party more prodly speaking? >> clearly the tea party was a tremendous force in 2010 and moving forward. i think like most successful move xs despite what the congressman said it's more for more of a national platform i

would argue that that has weakened and wayned a little bit in other parts of the country. republicans as a whole, a lot of americans are not so crazy about the affordable care act and would like to see it addressed but not in an amnesty fashion. the other thing is sometimes we're our own worst enemy by the tactics that are employed. we look like we're obstructionist. i would argue he's going into the right direction.

there's a portion of the republican base that likes that but that's not what most americans are comfortable with. >> that seems to be there's a sort of tension that seems to drive whether it was the government shut down or the show down over the debt seal inging if you try to do any kind of a deal whether it was the deal that boehner was going down the road with obama, you know on entitlements back in 2011. it opens up room for somebody to say this is a sell out. there is -- i guess what the tea party has shown me is there is a big audience for that.

>> there is. i would argue that it's not as big as 2010. it's very tough to take 10% and turn it into a workable majority. that's where the competition early is going to be. >> we just have a few seconds left. i did want to ask you, the governor of your state, ohio looking at maybe a late entry into this race. >> i served with john and he balanced the budget in 1997.

they don't think that bush can claim it so they are looking to be the outside horse. i know he formed an explore tory committee. we'll see. >> all right. still ahead in the show we go to the white house. not the real white house. he's up next.

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wasn't hearing many attacks on hillary clinton. >> it's the one unifying factor of the republicans is going after hillary clinton. >> and they also don't like barack obama. >> that was classic lindsay graham. he had a point but he went over the top as he always does. >> let's see if he stays in the race through the actual start time. aflec asked cbs to not reveal former slave owners. he was participating in the pbs show finding your roots. the show's host writes to sony usa asking for advice saying to do this would be a violation of pbs rules even for batman.

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>> that is a moment from the trailer for season four of hbo's hit lit call satire veep. these days the satire could be called potus. in veep we have a woman president of the united states. helping her every step of the way is her dedicated body man played by the hilarious tony hale. you might know tony from arrested development. excited now to have tony join us

live from la where he has gotten up at an ungodly hour this morning. i really appreciate it. let me start with this. the character that you play on veep, the body man for the vice president and now the president, this is a real role in politics. >> he always carries around a bag and has anything that his person needs, and typically people do this in their 20s. and they are -- with a politician, 25 hours a day. no social life never see their families and then they go on to do other stuff. my character has stuck into his 40s because he has no identity outside of selena. she is his queen.

pretty much if she ever leaves office he's still going to carry her purse to the grocery store because that is his life. >> the show is veep. how has that transitioned from her going from the number two to leading the country? how that has affected your character and your role on the show? >> i bleerngs well her being president alone is the country's in trauma. let's acknowledge that. she's obviously had to bufferin up her game. and my character is not great about bumping up his game. with president he doesn't have as much access to her. gary would rather her scream at him than distance herself from him. that's like emotional suicide. >> tony it's rick under, a very loyal fan of your show.

i notice your character is really being pushed out of things. >> what is poor little gary going to do about it? this episode coming up he breaks. >> ah. >> and something comes to the surface where it does draw them a little closer. he thought this might be coming with her as president and this has surfaced. >> there's a good tease. these jumped out at me looking at what real accomplishes say about their show. dan fifer said the more you know about politics the funnier it is

talking about your show. take us behind the scenes about how this show comes together. what do you guys do to try to get politics right? >> well the fact that someone said it's right like oh. we're in trouble. >> they're all british and it's interesting their perspective of american politics. we have this interesting process when we rehearse before we shoot. what i love about the show. you know they have to go behind the scenes and loz thaur minds. you know they have to get insecure and say i don't know what the hell is going on. i don't know what i'm going to say. i love that we show a glimpse of

that because they're human beings. >> just the indignity of playing that number two roll. it's just ignored by the president and now she's in a position where she has to decide how she's going to treat her on vice president. she is subjecting him to everything already. >> there's a line where she says yeah, i wouldn't want him to endure it but the precedent's been set. >> nothing you can do about it i guess. >> >> there's a lot of viewers who would probably kill me if i don't. a possible return of arrested development. you guys did the 15 new episodes. anything to this? >> i get all of my news from the

internet. that was the first i heard, too. i do know that whether it's you know, seven episodes or 17 we would all jump at the chance to do it again because we have such admire ration. >> i am one of those people that if you put 7 or 17 episodes up i will watch them. >> you guys have had a plate of donuts in front of you for the past hour and nobody has touched it. >> you're giving me ideas. tony hale we will send one of these donuts out to you. tony hale from veep. it's on tonight. appreciate it. >> and still ahead, president obama and republicans agreeing on something that most democrats oppose. it actually happened and we will tell you what it was all about. and next -- >> and the scooby van is coming

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from your live shot yet. >> that is what the first day of iowa campaigning looked like. clinton's stop at a gas station in pennsylvania made national news. so did the chicken burito bowl. her events attracted five or six times as many reporters as there were participants. so far this is not your father's presidential campaign. or your mothers. >> what are you doing people? there are a lot of good reasons to be chasing the van. if the van was the good humor truck. and you were five. if zane was in the van and you were five.

>> jane joins the panel now. she's a journalism professor focusing on media and politics. we talked earlier about john stewart opening up about why he is leaving the daly show. he is sick of the media circuses every night on his show. i'm curious. that scene we showed at the beginning of the reporters running across the lawn in iowa there are like hundreds of reporters to cover her for an event where she will talk to maybe ten people. is this excessive? >> yes. and i can't tell you how irresistible it is. it's very funny. if you're a camera crew and she goes to a different entrance you are forced to chase her.

it's political tmz celebrity sightings. her goal is different. her goal is to get to people and have them hear her positions on things in a controlled setting with friendly people. i disagree the fact that she didn't make news in a sense because some of the positions are more like the progressive agenda. of course the media who are on the trail are really reduced to looking pretty ridiculous. she's almost playing to that. >> on the one hand it's incredibly trivial. i think we can show headlines that were out there this week. this is a candidate for president stopping to get lunch and it became -- yet at the same time i have to tell you i read the whole story about her visit. i was kind of fascinated by it.

you recognize she's a former first lady. she has not driven a car in 20 or 30 years so to see her standing in line at a fast food restaurant is something. >> it reminded me of that feature in celebrity magazine. they go and get groceries and eat lunch. i think the celebrity factor for her is enormous. she is trying to back off and she wanted to back off. she apampbtly is the one who wanted to drive as opoed descend from a plane. she's trying and they are setting up situations for her to connect with people. we will get to the more serious stuff but i think the media lost this round pretty badly. >> let me get the panel in here. just watching this unfold this

week watching it through the media, i'll tell you one thing, when i saw the thing, my initial reaction was to campaign coordinator had to coordinate this. this is the ultimate viral thing. >> we live in a different time. it's in an instant, anything can end up the candidates have to be cautious everywhere we go. >> we will just do that to the newspapers. we will make money. what do you think? >> people analyzing what was in her bowl. what does that say about what kind of candidate she is going be.

it's a little ridiculous. >> jane that's a really good point. we have got 19 months. >> the networks all have young people who are charged with getting everything. in they miss something, if she trips and you didn't get it you don't have a job or a career going forward. why do we have to chase her. that would be a rat call notion. everybody is chasing the trivia. she is going have to speak. she is going to have to do interviews. i think there are things in the woes and "new york times" did

write about. >> it is one of those scenes that i think we will play back a few times. >> and we will go live to oklahoma city.

>> a massive car bomb exploded killing men, women, and children. >> that was tom brokaw 20 years ago tonight. the day a bombing of the al vet p -- killed 168 people. 19 of them were children.

>> there are families numbering about 4,000 people. many tell me this is the one day a year where they all come together and some of the memories are happy memories. they all come together here and the ceremony has just begun. sit a quiet place here, very

serene serene. president clinton will be the final speaker today. some of their family members, some including siblings who were born after the events ot 1995. this is a way to on nor their lives and mark this day. the broader oklahoma city commune i can. here they talk about the oklahoma standard. they are asking people to do something as an act of kindness to honor those that were killed here. as a way to say that this is a community has has done a lot of healing through pain and saddens here. there are certainly memories that are very rich and today they come together to remember. >> all right. telly o'donnell in oklahoma city today. you will be able to hear president clinton's remarks once

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a lot of what happens in washington seems easy to predict these days. if president obama supports something, chances are the republicans will reject it. the gop's own bills will be dismissed as too far to the right by democrats. there was thu snews this week that seemed to break those notions. an agreement struck by key congressional leaders to move toward completing a trade deal called trans pacific partnership or tpp. the democrat i didn't go and republican leaders of the senate finance committee along with care man paul ryan of the house ways & means can committee agreeing to allow president obama to pursue an agreement that would be fast tracked

through congress with an up or down vote without i any change s to that agreement. the rift this time isn't between president obama and congressional republicans. it is a schism within his own party, within and among democrats, labor unions vurmt tall groups liberal are activists coming out against the deal. that puts them at odds with president obama. the president firing back at critics within his party at a press conference on friday. >> being oh posed to the new trade agreement is essentially a ratification of the status quo where a lot of folks are selling here but we are not elling there. >> nbc white house correspondent kristen welker joins us live. in terms of what the white house does here they are at odds with their own party. will they get their way on this? >> well look. i think you will continue to see president obama try to sell this deal to the american people in an effort to harness political prort for members of his party. that could include road trips. the president's main message to

critics is the deal has labor and environmental pro-vegass to protect workers. you aerd him reference it that 95% of the world markets are outside of the u.s. essentially he's arguing if the u.s. doesn't have a role in these trade deals american businesses workerers are going to be lft been hind. the president brushed aside the notion that this is going to divide the democratic party somehow headed into 2016. the reality is it is a divisive issue. the labor universitien i don't knows are against the deal. today say it will cost jobsment elizabether warren is getting a lot of pressure to run for president and as been vocally criticizing the deal. standing firmly with unions that's putting pressure on the democratic front runner hillary clinton who of course need it is warren branch of the party in 2016. it is the little bit cally divisive but you will hear president obama defend the deal ment he's getting pressure uh to show progress on this

before the prime minister of japan visits in a few weeks. steve? >> kristen with well kerr live at the white house. thanks for that. the debate on the trade deal spilling over to the 2016 race. former maryland gover nor martin o'malley hinted he may run against hillary clinton calls the trans pacific partnership a bad trade deal. he's against it i. hillary clinton this week issued a statement saying she will be watching details of if i agreement before deciding whether to support it or oppose it. warring democrats isn't what president obama is looking for nor hillary clinton as she tries to build a coalition at the start of the cam pane. to the panel now, looking at how democrats move forward. we talked about it earlier in the show. hillary clinton and what possession she's taking. this is a perfect example of something. clearly she doesn't want to weigh in on this now. you have warren and the lay br unions on one side the presidents on the other. if you're a democrat up running for president you don't want to be in the middle of this.

how long can she sit it out? >> she's smart. i listened to governor o'malley say it is a bad trade deal. tell us what's in the trade deal? i don't know. none of us know . we are forming opinions based on how we reacted to nafta. >> that's a big thing. the trade deals is have animated the democratic base of today. >> why won't anybody say let's see what's in the deal. >> for hillary clinton this could be a flip-flop moment. she said the tpp is a gold standard for trade agreements. she's walking a fine line when it comes to the trade agreement. >> you had to remind us. >> that's why i'm here. >> how will it shake out? >> the president has to be careful. it is a rare opportunity to work with congressional republicans. when mitch mcconnell was elected he said i will work with the president on trade. this is the president's big momentment he has to be careful. hillary clinton is separate and apart to wait out, see where the details are. she can't win with her base

before the primary if she comes out the for this. she might look luke maybe she won't negotiate with republicans on capitol hill and we'll have a repeat of the dysfunction we have seen over the last eight years in the obama administration. >> if you are hillary clinton and you have to be strategic about the breaks with the administration on anything. that's a good point. if you are breaking with the administration it's the one time they have agreement with republicans. maybe that's not the message. >> mercedes you have to listen to what she said. she's right. hillary did come out in favor of the deal in a major way going back a few yearsment she niece a tough spot. >> in terms of the room on her left martin o'malley coming out against this and elizabether warren being against this this. rick you're saying nafta. that's an agreement from 20 years ago. that was the signature trade deal under bell clint if the '90s. bill clinton had to fight his party, the labor unionsment the legacy of nafta is apazing. 20 years later how it affects the democratic base of today.

they are skeptle call of a trade deal spp i don't know about you. i have yet to see data that shows us how much impact -- positive or negative -- it had on american workers. there is a built in concern levelment if level. if you're a democrat your tendency is to side with the university yops but we don't know. >> thank you for getting up with us todaymentle thanks to the panel. you can catch more of me during the week with special guests every monday night on meerkat. google it get the app and check us out. we'll be joined by alex witt. ask anything you want. we have to say good-bye to one of our own. producer jack bohr has been instrumental in everything the show has done and become in the past two years. he's headed off to greener pastures. we with want to thank him for that. there's his "up" debut on screen nowful thank you, jack.

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