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it is the anniversary. great to have you all with us tonight. i appreciate it. that's "the ed show." politics nation with al sharpton starts right now. >> good evening. thank you for tuning in. we start with breaking news from baltimore. about the death of 25-year-old freddy gray from a spinal cord injury that his lawyer says happened in police custody. city officials just wrapped up a press conference highlighting the central mystery of the case. >> did he sump a very tragic injury to his spinal cord which resulted in his death. what we don't know, what we need to get to is how that injury occurred. i know when mr. gray was placed inside that van, he was able to talk. he was upset. and when mr. gray was taken out of that van, he could not talk.
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he could not breathe. >> police released this surveillance video today. from the incident itself. but with the cell phone video that is really raising the questions tonight. here is nbc's pete williams on that. >> this cell phone video provided to nbc news by the lawyer for 25-year-old freddy gray shows the arrest. the lawyer says gray suffered a broken neck last sunday when police arrested and restrained him. the police have be given a cause for grape's injuries or specified why he was arrested saying there is an investigation into the incident. >> [ bleep ]. >> the leg. >> the lawyer for gray's family said he died sunday from his injuries. >> what we know is that while in police custody for committing no crime, for which they had no jifgs for making an arrest
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exempt he was a black man running. his spine was virtually severed. >> gray's arrest came after ran from four officers on bicycles. according to the time line 8:42 a.m. april 12 officers called for a police van. they said he was talking and conscious when he was put in. another vehicle shot by a witness showed the van stopped by a second location at 8:54. gray appears to be taken out of the vehicle. put on the pavement and confiened by more restraints. at 9:24 they called paramedics to the precinct to take gray to the hospital. >> freddie gray spent a week in the hospital and he died yesterday. city officials said an internal investigation is underway. there will be an independent review. six officers have been suspended and an autopsy on mr. gray was performed today. joining me now is msnbc law enforcement analyst jim cavanagh
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and criminal defense attorney eric thank you both for being here. >> thank you. case right now? >> well, when you look at the video that you just pl when the young man is picked up. he is in pain. he grimaces. his face grimaces and you can see, he doesn't seem to have the power to use his legs. so it seems to me and i don't mean to question doctors if i was investigating this case. does he have a spinal injury at this point? when someone is lifted up like that, the shackle behind them. and i've lifted up many arrested people. there is a natural tendency to stand unless you're doing some sort of peaceful protest and you purposefully don't use your leg to stand. most people when you lift them up, they will use their legs to stachbl he is grimacing in painful his legs seem tonight be powered as he is dragged to the van. so was there an injury at that
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point? the doctors need to answer those questions for the mayor and the commissioner. >> eric obviously i agree. obviously he looked like he was in painful he look to be grimacing. and he certainly wasn't doing a peaceful protest. not only does it raise a question about had there been a spinal injury. why wonderful the police call for medical back-up then? >> right. that's part of the problem. this young man, it didn't appear that he did anything wrong. like jim just said. it lookds like his legs were weak. the one thing that sticks out in this case there was a 30-minute gap between 8:54 and 9:24 where the question is what happened in that 30 minutes? i'm sure within the city limits of baltimore, they can get him to the precinct by then. why did they stop? to put more restraints on him? if he is in police custody in the back of the van, the question is why. we've had so many cases of
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police brutality. i'm so happy that people are using their cell phones. we have two sefts cell phone videos that the police officers may not have wanted to be known. >> we don't know what happened before the video was shot. clearly we don't know if something happened to cause the injury or whether there was some kind of confrontation. we don't know anything before the video. let's go to the time line of the events police released. at 8:39 officers approached. gray flees. 8:40, gray was taken into custody. 8:42 officers request a transport wagon. 8:54, the wagon stops. more restraints were added to mr. gray. 30 minutes later, 9:24 paramedics were requested for hospital transport for mr. gray.
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so there are gaps in time that are unexplained and unrecorded. what can the time line tell us? >> here's a big thing. when someone is injured during a police arrest it is usually because they are actively resisting arrest. that come in two forms. resisting arrest without violence and with violence. usually with violence is a felony. the police report said there was no force. mr. gray didn't resist with violence. he was not charged with resisting violence. where is the violence from the person that shows that this injury is required or even this rough handling? and once someone is shackled and their hands are cuffed there are witnesses reporting that he was tossed on the floor of the paddy wagon. thrown on the floor of the wagon and feet tied behind him. sometime people in custody, i've had them kick out the windows of the car. it seal like he was captured.
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he tried to run. he was captured and then he was in pain for some reason and that seemed to not have been taken seriously. not to have been regarded as really important and needed medical attention. and whatever injury might have happened was exacerbated by him laying on the floor of the police transport vehicle which then made a couple stops. maybe even picked up another prisoner. so there's a lot to be found out here for mayor and commissioner to find out what happened to this young man. 27 years old. he should be alive. >> eric police officials noted that freddie gray requested medical attention more than once, including asking for his inhaler. how would that play in? >> would it play in because if this man asked for medical help he obviously knew that he was in trouble. and as we've been talking about this reverend al 8:54 the
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police officers said they added restraints. that means his legs must have been moving just fine. his article must be moving just fine. the only reason a police officer would add more restraints is if someone is resisting or fighting someone else or something of that nature. so so many gaps in between these time lines, the big 30-minute gaps. one thing is sure. he was walking before the police officers had him in custody and he is dead now. so the police have a lot of questions to be answered. >> the police commissioner went through what officials would be for with the autopsy. take a listen. >> was there any evidence of kicking, punching strikes of any type upon his body? was there any evidence of the voice box being crushed or any damage done to the neck area? was there any internal trawl to the organs at all? was there any vertebra broken in a manner that would cause the
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severe issues we are dealing with today. >> jim, what can the autopsy tell us? what should we be looking for? >> you want to know from the medical examiner. where is this spinal injury? the back of the neck? was his neck broken? is it a scenario where an officer could have his knee on his head or snek not purposely trying to cause an injury that severe but just happened through rough handling. is that possible? i still say, he didn't walk to that van under his own power. there is some injury there affecting his legs. and one of the citizens who took some of the cell phone video is screaming at the officers. his legs are broke. he can't move his legs. when you see his legs they look distorted. out of place. so he has some injury that might have been exacerbated. he could have been screaming and writhing in pain in the back of the wagon. and may be they didn't read that right and thought he was
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fighting his restraints, when actually he might have been in pain. so there are so many questions and so many things the mayor and commissioner and the commanders have to get to the bottom of. the medical examiner if you're investigating this case, i would move in his house. i want to know everything that's going. on i want to know what this injury tell me so i can get to the bottom of it. >> we'll be finding out those answers. we'll be following this story and see where the investigation goes. jim cavanagh eric guster thank you for your time this evening. straight ahead. it's been 163 days. 163 days since loretta lynch was nominated to be attorney general. why are we still waiting for a vote? senator bernie sanders is here. plus we're learning more about the tulsa deputy charged after fatally shooting a man. what his training records and the gun he used revealed. and could mitt romney be making a comeback?
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after 163 days senate republicans finally expected to vote this week on loretta lynch's attorney general nomination. before they do we're hearing more of the same excuses for the delay. here's senator mike lee. >> there are a lot of concerns with loretta lynch that focus a lot on what president obama did with our immigration code back
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in november. >> loretta lynch didn't do this. >> she didn't. when questioned in front of the senate judiciary committee on which i sit, she refused to acknowledge that there are limits. >> they are blocking loretta lynch nomination over immigration, even though senator admitted she had nothing to do with changing the rules. it's a despicable game of politics and it has gone on way too long. >> do you think six months is reasonable? do you think this has been a little ridiculous? >> i'm not going to say that it is ridiculous. >> he won't say it is ridiculous but i will. it is ridiculous. as president obama said it is embarrassing too. >> there are times where the dysfunction in the senate just goes too far. this is an example of it. it's gone too far. enough. enough.
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call loretta lynch for a vote. let her do her job. this is embarrassing. a process like this. >> maybe they're finally getting embarrassed because now senate republicans say we'll have a vote early this week. >> well we have a couple things happening on the floor. and i think this that will be resolved. my guess is over the next 72 to 48 hours it will be resolved. >> it will be resolved but this has become a pattern. republicans playing politics instead of governing. they've held up voting on our next attorney general, they have threatened funding for our homeland security and even shut down our government. all for no good reason. and wasting time. it's been 163 days since proebl
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nominated miss lynch and in the same time since the senate has held her hostage, they've managed to confirm several judges and even a new secretary of defense. she is supremely qualified ask already been confirmed to the senate twice. i hope the vote is held this week but republicans should be embarrassed. they should be embarrassed that it has taken more than 163 days for them to do their jobs. joining me now is senator bernie sanders, independent of vermont. thank you for being here. >> my pleasure. >> one of your republican colleagues say he expects this vote early this week. when do you think you'll finally get a chance to vote on loretta lynch? >> i hope we will have the vote this week as you've indicated. this is the longest time that i believe that any attorney general nominee has had to wait.
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and it is embarrassing, a disgrace and it really gets back tonight level of republican obstructionism for anything that president obama wants. same old story. if he wants it it is bad. the idea to attack her or to hold her up because she actually believes in the policy that's the guy who nominated her has presented is a little bit crazy. i've not heard one republican say she is not qualified for the job. >> senator, this zla having a real delay on the justice department. the "l.a. times" says the department is in quote, partial limbo, and promotions and quality decisions have been put off. announcements have slowed to a trickle. congress is waiting for input on the agency's budget policies. attorney general eric holder is still doing a great job but isn't the department forced to
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put up long term planning because of this? >> absolutely. eric holder is trying to get out of there. he has announced that he wants to leave. she is raring to go. obviously it is very hard for a large department like the department. justice to do its work when they don't have the lead-up who is supposed to be leading them. >> now, what is the buzz around the senate? you're there. are you expecting a vote this week? i mean i know you hope there will be one. are you having any indication that there will be a vote this week? >> i'm hearing mixed signals, but i hope very much that there will be. i think it will be a close vote. despite jeb bush for example, coming out and saying that it is important that she become get the vote it is very close. i think we have the votes very close.
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>> with all that this country is facing from terrorism all the way to the need to deal with voting laws and police reform how at this vital time can anyone elected to the senate play partisan politics with something as sensitive as the justice department? >> well you're absolutely right. but it goes further. we have so many serious problems facing our country with a middle class in decline with huge income and wealth inequality. with high unemployment. 11%. you know, with climate change for goodness sakes, which the scientists tell us is the major environmental crisis facing the planet. republicans have nothing to say. they're not allowing serious legislation or serious debate on any of these issues. their agenda is minimal. and they can't even allow us to vote for an attorney general for the united states of america. >> and politico has a story today, senator, that is not just
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loretta lynch's nomination being held up as important as that is. quote, there are 18 nominations waiting for a vote on the senate floor, including loretta lynch's nomination to the attorney general. and more than 130 idling in committees. and they say senator mccain said, quote, it's payback for the democrats using the so-called nuclear option to push through scores of nominations in the previous congress. so they're punishing the american people because democrats approved a lot of nominees senator? >> it is really quite crazy. the reason that reed finally, it is the republicans object instructed time and time again on judges and presidential nominees. and finally, reid said enough is enough. so now what they are saying is
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because reid stood up to their obstructionism now they'll obstruct even more. that is quite a weird thought. >> senator bernie sanders, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> now let me bring in joan walsh of salon.com. >>. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> what message does it send to the american people that it has taken 163 days to vote on loretta lynch? >> it is the justice department. maybe they don't care about justice. that's what i get to. senator sanders is right. this is an unpress denltd level of obstruction. and i lay it at the feet of mitch mcconnell who says we will do it differently. it really does look like loretta lynch has the votes the confirm her. she has at least five republican supporters. the question is will mitch mcconnell bring it to a vote. >> i'm glad you brought that up.
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when mitch mcconnell became majority leader he made a huge big deal. a huge deal about how well the senate would function. listen to this. >> i heard a lot of discussion about dysfunction in washington. i think there are a lot of people who believe that just because you have divided government that doesn't mean you don't accomplish anything. the senate in the last few years doesn't do anything. we don't even vote. we're going back to work and actually pass legislation. >> he made this big deal about progress and votes and passing legislation. if he can't hold a vote on the attorney general, i mean, what does he do? >> and he can hold a vote. he just won't hold the vote. that is incredibly disingenuous. the prize goes to senator chuck grassley. he is now blaming harry reid for
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not bringing this up when the democrats had the majority in december. you and i talked about this at the time. both of us had some questions that. the reason senator reid and the white house didn't push it they wanted to start fresh. it was an olive branch. a show of good faith and it was said at the time. openly at the time this wasn't a big secret. now senator grassley is blaming senator reid for doing what they perceive is the right thing to work the republicans. it is just mind blowing what this woman has been through. >> i wrote this in my piece today. some level of dog whistling here. because they did confirm the secretary of defense and others but the fact that it is a woman and an african-american plays to some empties on the far right to want to send messages to overly
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qualified women and blacks. it seems to be somewhat singled out here that we'll make an example out of lynch. >> i agree. at worst it is sending that message and senator dick durbin happened to be white, compared her to rosa parks. they got really angry. >> the signal is there and they didn't get angry enough to call the vote. >> jones walsh, thank you for your time only the. >> thank you. still ahead, dramatic video of a rookie police officer who refused to shoot a man apparently trying to commit suicide by cop. tonight, he is being praised as a hero. also we're learning more about the deputy who fatally shot a man. more on his training record and the gun he used. jack's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today, his doctor has him
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developing news in the shooting that read to the arrest of an oklahoma reserve deputy. roberts bates said he accidentally used his gun instead of his taser when he shot eric harris earlier this month. harris died later at the hospital. and now the tulsa county sheriff says he reassigned two other deputies who were at the scene because they received threats. one pinned harris' head to the ground with his knee. the others swore at harris when he said he was losing his breath. >> they've been re-assigned. they haven't been suspended but we will take action on that once some of the court cases are resolved with mr. bates. i'm not sure if we'll go ahead and do an internal review or not. >> also tonight, new questions about whether bates had the
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proper training for the job. the tulsa world newspaper reports that robert bates qualified on a revolver he carried during a fatal shooting. and his gun was not on the list of firearms deputies can carry on duty. today the sheriff said the use of that gun was a simple mistake. offering this explanation. >> bob did mistake a gun for a taser. he mistook it. >> joining me now, dan, the family attorney, the harris family attorney. thank you for being here first of all. >> thank you, reverend. i appreciate the time. >> what was your reaction to the sheriff's comments today? >> well it's not surprising to me. i've worked really against this
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organization almost for a decade now. and it is very consistent with some of the systemic issues i've seen coming out of the tulsa county sheriff office. >> it seems like they've gone from saying where mr. bates himself said he reach for the wrong object to the sheriff saying ted gun in his hand. >> i'm cutting out. i can't hear. i can't hear you. >> i think we're having a little technical difficulty on the that -- let's try to get that straight. what i'm raising is i just played the contradiction between the whatever the sheriff is saying today and what mr. bates originally says is a very glaring difference in stories. because as i showed you, when matt lauer interviewed mr. bates, he demonstrated that the taser was in one place and the gun, another.
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officer jesse kidder later explained what he was thinking as he handled this dangerous situation. >> the law enforcement officers across the nation with split seconds decisions. i want to be absolutely sure before i used deadly forceful. >> he is a former marine with a purple heart from his two tours in iraq. he deserves a lot of credit for how he handled this life and death issue here at home. great work officer kidder. and i feel that those of us that question police cases, that question bad policing are obligated to show the officer kidders of the world that do the right thing. the objective must be good policing and standing with the police. not just nitpicking and creating an atmosphere that would not lead to a constructive society that is accountable to all. i have no problem. i am happy to salute officer
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time now for conversation nation. joining me political comedian and radio host john and radio host stephanie miller thank you all for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> hillary clinton was in new
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hampshire today. and in a quick press conference she bashed the gop for attacking her instead of talking about the issues. >> we're back into the political season. and therefore, we will be subjected to all kinds of distraction and attacks and i am ready for that. i know that that comes unfortunately with the territory. it is i think, worth noting that the republicans seem to be talking only about me. i don't know what they would talk about if i weren't in the it's ray. >> stephanie, hillary slamming the gop contenders. will we see more of this. >>? i think she's right. what happens if she's not in the race. i think of them looking into the camera and starting to sweat profusely. they have no ideas exempt hillary bad. it has been obama bad for so
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many years and now hillary bad. what is the new idea there? >> john? >> well i think stephanie miller is absolutely right as she tends to be. i will say there is no legislative agenda. they will have to make this about personality and pant suits and chipotle. if the news ever talk about what hillary is eating or wearing, you are not actually watching news. >> you are trying to convince people to trust with you being the leader of the free world. and you would think that all of them in new hampshire this weekend, they would do more than just try to get best sound bite against hillary clinton. >> you would think so. can we say we're really surprised? this is how campaigns work and this is the position hillary clinton will be in as the lead democratic contender at this point. there are too many republicans that are thinking about throwing their hat into the ring. too many options and varieties there.
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they have on zero in. the one plan of attack is going after hillary clinton. it is the easiest thing to do. >> you would think one or two would break from the pack and say i'm not going to do this. here are my policies and ideas. especially sense it is not working. look at this new poll where hillary clinton is double digit against double digits by everyone of them. up by 14. 17 against jeb bush. 14 against rubio. on and on and on. it is not even working. >> well yeah. what i like as a woman, keep playing this age card and the searchist card. we're going to have like 100% turnout in the country with everyone with a vagina. this is not working for them. marco rubio and others are saying the leader from yesterday with yesterday's ideas.
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that's not true. his ideas are yesterday's ideas. >> a good friend of mine said similar to that what stephanie said today. rubio talks about being the younger guy. but he is talking the old ideas. he doesn't support same sex marriage. i mean, the fact that you're a young guy with old ideas. i would rather have an older guy or lady with young ideas. at least 21st century ideas. >> you got bernie sand here's has ideas that haven't been tried yet. you're right. they want to go on hillary clinton's age from the party with bob dole. and ronald reagan. still our oldest president ever. ageism doesn't work. in this case you have hillary clinton running against herbert hoover economics.
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and every guy in the gop field is running on doing exactly what george w. bush did but calling it something different. >> alanna brace yourself. they said there may be more in the race. where is someone else getting in? maybe you didn't see this one coming. the "washington post" road house new hampshire could make or break jeb bush's presidential campaign. and it brought up this idea. floated by a skratic strategist. >> jeb bush has to win new hampshire. it is a must win. he will lose iowa. i'll go further and say if jeb bush loses new hampshire, they'll get mitt romney back in the race. >> the romney may return story is getting headlines but he is long denied a third repeat or three-peat. >> i'm not running. i'm not planning on running. >> i'm not running for president. >> i'm not doing it again.
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>> i'm not running for president. i've said it so many times. >> can you see any chance romney gets in? >> no. i think the world is done with mitt romney running for president. >> but is romney done with it? >> i think he should have gotten the message the first two times it didn't work out for him. the new york time is reporting that the koch brothers seemed to have picked their new favorite. governor scott walker. that's who they want to throw their port and money behind. that just shows that you people are ready for some fresh blood. >> we'd better make sure that it is the koch brothers on the phone. >> i'm a comedian. i'm the guy praying mitt romney gets back in the race. i want him on that wall. i need him on that wall. i have a box full of old mitt romney jokes in my closet that are rustling that want to come out. >> none about his wife. i love his wife.
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great stay at home mom. stephanie? >> there is a new idea. this is party of fresh ideas bhoux sflom a bush? how about zombie reagan? seriously. there is a party out of ideas. >> all right. now to the gyrocopter pilot breaking his silence. he land the on the u.s. capitol last week protesting politics. now he is speaking out saying he expected to be stopped along the way. and this. >> at the time that i was flying at the capitol mall and it was a huge thrill. i wasn't worried about getting shot down. i was worried about my flying and i was getting focused on making my landing. and i think that's the same thing every pile does when they make a final approach. >> many people are standing up for hughes. praising him for bringing attention to money in politics
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including bill mahr. >> nobody talked about why he did it. which was to bring attention to a very important issue. maybe the most important issue. that elections are bought and sold now by billionaires. this guy is a hero to me. i'm not going to make fun of him. >> i agree with the pirate on the issue. is he a hero? >> as he hero to me. he can pay the fine. he broke the lawful as he big boy. the fact is at some point the bad guys aren't even the republicans. hate is going to hate. the democrats are neck deep in money as they are in some cases. in this case, the bad guy is the media. this guy goes and flies a gyrocopter on to the capitol lawn to protest that our congress and bought is paid for. and the media finds that a bigger story than the fact that we have a congress that is bought and paid for. so this guy is doing the media's job. and as plate comedian i resent that. it is our job to do the media's
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job for them. >> is he a hero? >> yeah. i think this is an incredibly important issue. i think he should be landing gyro commenters at political campaigns. maybe the next one hillary clinton holds. the grip that money has on our political system is insane. and john brings up a great point. the media is always too quick to call something a political stunt without really diving into why it is that someone pulled it. >> stephanie, you have the last word. >> i think so. it is not a whacky idea is true. the vast majority of american people agree with him. that said, i am concerned about secret security. it is a bad day for secret service when they say, oh. >> thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. it is patriots day in boston. the great tradition of the boston marathon. thousands ran. and thousands came out to cheer
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on their heroes. one of the runners? our very own politics nation. she finished in 3:25. congratulations, miriam. and coming up, the city shows what it means to be boston strong. breathing down my neck pressuring me into a decision. when i go to the supermarket there's no one pushing me to buy the more expensive cereal. i just want to shop like i do everywhere else. ♪ ♪ as long as people drive cars carmax will be the best way to buy them.
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sibling problem. who would ever want to be overshadowed by their big brother? definitely not jeb bush. especially when it comes to foreign policy. this likely 2016 candidate is doing everything he can to make people forget. he is more than a little related to our 43rd president. and our 41st president. first, he is like i won't talk about the past. then he is all, i am my own man. for some reason that's not quite cutting it with reporters up in new hampshire. >> are this any other problems you have with your brother's foreign policy? any place he made mistakes? >> i'm not going to get into that. that's not particularly relevant in a world of deep insecurity focusing on the past is not really relevant. >> you know what?
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maybe jeb bush has a point. after all, he is not the one that got us into a disastrous war in iraq on false pretenses. there's just one tiny thing he left out. 19 of the 21 people advising jeb on foreign policy worked for his father, his brother or both. he is making the past relevant by taking advice from people from the past. did jeb bush think we wouldn't notice that he is evading the relevant in the room? u know that the lack of saliva can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath? well, there is biotene specially formulated with moisturizers and lubricants... biotene can provide soothing relief and it helps keep your mouth healthy too. biotene, for people who suffer from a dry mouth.
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finish line in 2013. and since then the city has shown the country and the world how to be resilient. >> the marathon is certainly a symbol of hope and joy and now more than ever strength and resilience. a symbol of how great our city is and everything that we love about our city. this year's banner reflects the pride that we feel. there is only one boston. >> that strength and that resilience is epitomized by rebecca gregory who is near the finish line when the bomb went off. she lost her leg and nearly her life. and today, she was at the finish line again. only this time she crossed it as a runner. in 4:18. that is boston strong. >> it was the hardest thing i think i've ever had to do. when i got started in the race the ptsd came back from just the
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marathon in general. so it was my nerves. and it was also just physically the rain and everything preventing me from doing this. but i crossed the finish line. i took my life back today. >> and it is worth noting two weeks ago, dzhokhar tsarnaev was found guilty of the bombing. co-face the death penalty. the people of boston are showing grace and dignity. a couple who lost limbs in bombings oppose the death penalty. saying a life sentence is the best route to healing. then the parents of the youngest victim 8-year-old martin richey. they're asking the government not to pursue the death penalty. two years later showing the world what boston strong is really all about. that day that the world saw humanity at its worst, victims that should have never been
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victimized can now see resilience at its best. crises come in life. it is how we respond that show who we are. boston has taught world a lesson. again today. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. the anti-hillary overkill. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. tomorrow night president obama comes here to "hardball." first we'll get to that hot topic of his big pacific trade deal. and all the fire work surrounding that. i expect a hot discussion here with the president and trade supporters, given all the debate and controversy about it. especially on the