that should have never been victimized can now see resilience at its best. crises come in life. it is how we respond that show who we are. boston has taught world a lesson. again today. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. the anti-hillary overkill. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. tomorrow night president obama comes here to "hardball." first we'll get to that hot topic of his big pacific trade deal. and all the fire work surrounding that. i expect a hot discussion here with the president and trade supporters, given all the debate and controversy about it. especially on the progressive

and labor side. we'll also have some "hardball" time with the president exclusively on a whole range of front page stories. iran isis and hillary clinton's rollout rollout. can he count on them? tonight we set the stage and start with a legion of republican presidential candidates, up to 19 at the latest count. that holds one abiding unifying belief. the best way to run for november 2016 is to bash hillary clinton in 2015. it is the number one past time. it is like a chore us of angels. >> i'm starting to worry when hillary clinton, there needs to be two plaenls. one for her entourage and one for her baggage. >> hilary. >> how would i classify it? we're different people of different generations.

so you know, we're going to approach things that different ways. >> hillary clinton must not be president of the united states. >> the clintons all too well. they play to win. and they play and do anything necessary in order to win. >> as i was coming up i was a little bit started. i could have sworn i saw hillary's scooby doo van outside. and then i realized it couldn't possibly be that because i'm pretty sure y'all don't have any foreign nations paying speaker, right? >> skin crawling. any way, they had a new weapon to hit her with. an author has charged hillary clinton with doing favors for foreign entities for payments made to the clinton foundation and the former president bill clinton in speaking fees. it was this charge that triggered a rare hillary clinton retort. here she is. >> we're back into the political

season. and therefore, we will be subjected to all kinds of distraction and attacks and i'm ready for that. i know that comes unfortunately with the territory. i think it is worth noting that the republicans seem to be talking only about me. i don't know what they would talk about if i weren't in the race but i am in the race. and hopefully we'll get on to the issues and i look forward to that. >> i'm jones by howard fineman. director of the "huffington post" post". and the author of the book, the presidency in black and white. april, you start. i was looking at the press. i've never seen them look so frightening. maybe it is the lighting but they look like they're ready to jump her. >> every word that she -- she hasn't been talking. this was like the first time she's talk to the press on this tour with her scooby doo mobile.

the $60,000 van. people want to hear what she has to say. the republicans are very interesting. >> they're not running against her yet, are they? >> yeah. they are. she is the one to beat. and they are hyping her up even more. if they point fingers at one another, they will show the party is so fractured. >> is this the only thing they agree on? >> i don't even know what they think about her. even the happy jokes. they weren't at all funny. >> they need better joke writers if they're going to ten. they need better writers. so not funny. even karl rove has said -- >> oh my god. >> even karl rove has said the republicans can't win if attack the hillary is the only thing

they do. even he recognizes you have to do something different. in talking to my friends and sources in new hampshire which i've been doing today. even they were cinching at a lot of this stuff. a lot of them were undecided. this is what they do right now. >> here he is yet on "meet the press." warning that the republican assault on hillary clinton was only playing into her and her plans. let's watch. >> when voters want is someone who will lay out an agenda of how you move the country forward. you showed the republican candidates showing all their time attack hillary. that's great. let them do it. from my perspective every second they don't talk about how to move this great nation forward is great for hillary clinton. >> he is not only the best saleman in the world. he is so smart about this. who will make you president of the united states?

>> and he knows a lot about position ask is exhibiting it as govern. and i think he is right. i think she has to be careful. >> she is in front of a firing squad. >> she has to respond. this is the political season. this is kind of stuff you can expect. this came out the day before she arrived in new hampshire. >> this thing being -- >> the book about selling access to the state department. i think she should say flat out in addition to what she said that it is baloney. and i would have liked to have if i were advising her, i would have said to do that. ? why didn't she say this is bs. none of it is true. >> it may be true. it may not be as true. with a would be true? >> sometime when you dig, somebody throws something out.

they don't have anyone on the record. so she wants to make sure she is okay 100% before she goes out. and definitively says something could incriminate her. i think she is being very strategic in her words. >> among other things republicans have been attacking her for her age. this is where you get into trouble. let me remind you, most voters are women. get that down. more women voters than male vote here's show up and vote. number two, older people especially retired people have a little time to think about politics and they take it very ear just because there's a lot at stake for older people. so they're watching these people and listening to them. you attack somebody for being too old? smart? no. let's watch. >> don't tell me democrats are the party of the future when their presidential ticket for 2016 is shaping up to look like a rerun of the golden girls.

>> just yesterday, a leader from yesterday -- began a campaign for president by promising to take us back to yesterday. >> i think that health and age is fair game. fair game for ronald reagan and john mccain envelop one theme they're playing up. i don't get it. that she is a grand mother. she stresses in the end of her book, hard choices. the idea is to humanize her. frankly, how do i say it? being a grand mother just means to me that you're getting older. >> what is the point? everybody is getting older. every voter is especially getting older. >> can i tell you, at my age i could be a grandmother. i have small kids. and i'm offended by that. number one, when we look at our politicians, we tend to want

someone more mature with wisdom meaning gray area. that's male. when it is female it's a double standard and it's not right. >> so you think it works. >> no. it doesn't work. what i think is happening is that it is a double standard. and women are not held to the same standard. in this country when we start looking at a politician -- >> most of course annor team on broadcast. the guy looks like he is 50 something and she is 30 something. >> they're changing them out. the younger blond haired woman or the younger man who doesn't have -- >> that it republicans -- >> you're right. there is an age differential. >> your poemt is the right one. republicans have to be very careful. first, if they run the whole campaign against hillary, they're not saying where they want to go. the other they know is that i've watched hillary for a long time. nothing humanizes her and

nothing make hillary more appealing when she is under what other people regard as unfair attack. when she is the victim and pause otherwise, she is a dominating figure. a controlling figure. >> so what was obama's biggest mistake? he made a few. likable enough. and she said you hurt my feelings. >> i think she prime times that debate. that is a cool answer. >> this is the number. a new cnn poll has some bad news for republicans. none of the candidates come close to beating hillary clinton. clinton beats marco rubio by 14. she beats former governor jeb bush by 17. she. chris christie and rand paul by 19. dr. ben carson senator ted

cruz both lose to her by 24. these are runaway number. in no sport do you lose by that many points. >> and then you have martin o'malley coming in at the end of june. i wonder what his names are. >> it is not his fault. it is very hard to beat her. >> at this time he isn't good. so far. >> it boenlt stay that way. it shows how fractured they are and how far behind they are. and it shows a lot of strength for her. and she has a lot to play with here. >> how about the boomerang? there's great irony. she waited her turn. not that she wanted to but she did. she's older. there is always a reaction to what we have. obama is too young. sbhes the right age. >> you made that point. >> but she has a pedigree that no one else has. a as senator a secretary of

state and she has a pedigree -- >> you give me that robert deniro. >> i wish the camera caught you doing that. you talking to me? a new book by conservative writer howard set to be released next month. they're leaking it now. as i said korgt to the new york time. foreign entities received favors from mrs. clinton's state department in return. his examples include a free trade agreement in colombia that benefits the natural resource investments. development projects in the aftermath of the haitian earthquake in 2010. and more than $1 million in payments to mr. cleanse by a canadian bank and major shareholder in the key stone exel pipeline around the time it was being debated. a clinton spokesman called it partisan fueled fix that twists

facts. oliver stone does it. this happen and that happened. there must have been a deal. >> what they're trying to do is what the republicans are trying to do, what rupert murdoch will help them try to do. it is his publishing company. parenthetically, rupert murdoch and hillary clinton were bud whiz she was running in new york. they made a peace pact last time. that won't happen this time. what republicans will do with their media allies to do to hillary clinton in this several month period what the clinton people did to bob dole many years ago when he was the republican nominee and sat there while the clintons teenage him. the theory of the republicans, if we can drive her personal negatives up.

the republican don't have obamacare to run against. the current deficit is dispierce. the economy is disappearing. what do they have to do? destroy her character early on. do it early and do it often. that's their strategy. that is their strategy. and they're going to double down on it. and everybody will say they need to do other things. >> you used to do it the summer before. now you do it the summer before the summer before. an interesting strategy. i saw jerry brown used to use that. hit him early on his pension. >> so basically throw spaghetti out. her e-mail haven't worked. then you have benghazi and it is still not working.

>> in the famous words, we'll see. we'll see. i'll see. howard fineman, thank you both for coming on. coming up, tomorrow i'll talk to the president about it. when we come back we'll hear from both sides. it is a hot fight in the progressive world. plus, candidates from both sides are speaking out against the secret dark money. what are we going to do about this sneaky money? why would you want to give money and not have it known? and mike huckabee takes wheel of the republican clown car. he says parents shouldn't let their kids join the u.s. military until president obama is out of office. is that sedition? and this is about a guy thinking about being commander in chief. what a full mooner he has

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no more secret trade deals. are you ready to fight? no more secret deals.

no more special deals for multinational corporations. are you ready to fight? are you ready to fight any more deals that say we're going to help the rich get richer and leave everyone else behind? are you ready to fight that? >> we are standing together to open up one gigantic can of whoop [ bleep ] on anybody. on anybody that tries to take our jobs. >> my whole presidency has been about helping working families. and lifting up wages. if i didn't think this deal was not doing it i wouldn't do it. i didn't get elected because of the chamber of commerce. >> welcome back to "hardball." this fight over the president's trade agenda has exploded into one of the hottest fights in american politics and it is getting hotter. it is shaping up to be one hell of a fight between president

obama and progressives. and hillary clinton appears to be stuck in the middle. as secretary of state she did support it. as you saw there, tempers are running high. environmentalist say this massive negotiation will kill jobs and rig the system for the wealthy and powerful. critics include people like senator elizabeth warren, senator shuck schumer. and they say that we don't write the rule with these trade deals, the economic powerhouses, then china will do it. as i said at the top of the show tomorrow we'll have president obama himself on the front page stories of the day. senator let me go to senator brown.

you've been pretty consistency on this original posing the trade deals way back to nafta. what is it about ohio and your state's interest in opposing this whole trade effort? >> i want trade. i want more of it. i don't want it you said rules where businesses all across the country have documented this practice where you shut down production in wilkesbury or canton ohio and you move it to china and then you sell products back to the united states. since nafta we've lost more than 5 million manufacturing jobs. not entirely because of fast track but we know what's happened. when we signed on with china, we had about a $10 or $15 billion job. now it is $25 billion a month with china and that translates into manufacturing jobs. >> why do we have 30 million

more jobs in this country. where did they come from? >> we have at love service jobs that don't pay close to minimum will. >> 30 million. >> you can say that. look at -- >> it's a fact. you know the facts. we have 142 million people working in this country. we had 112 when you voted against nafta. explain why it exploded the number of jobs if it has been a job killer. >> talk about wages. we've had jobs that we've lost have been replaced by generally low wage jobs. there are people in this country that haven't had a raise more or less for a decade. and what has happened look at cities in the midwest. the industrial midwest and all over the country. cities of 30 and 50,000 that have in a sense been hollowed out. lost union jobs in many cases, declining wages. and in a shrinking middle class. >> how do you explain the growth of the sill colon valley? the groet all along the highway

in this area. the huge development high-tech industry. there are areas where jobs have exploded and they're very, very well paying. so where did that come from if not from trade? >> well some of it comes from trade. i'm saying i want more trade. i just want it under rules that don't encourage company to shut down production in toledo and pittsburgh and move it to mexico city or beijing and sell products back into the united states. ultimately, the middle class shrinks, the middle class struggles with more and more student loan debt and all the other problems inflicted on the middle class. these trade agreements are more of the same. the evidence is in. >> i'm not sure it is. some evidence certainly. you know the argument. you represented pennsylvania for all those years. i do point to the history lesson if you need one. jack kennedy was for free trade. he opened up trade. bill clinton certainly did nafta. he was a big free trader.

hillary clinton at state department. we're not sure where she is now. she was for this deal. so this idea of the democratic progressives are against freep trade isn't established at the presidential level. when you have to protect local industries, continuing pattern. but not nationwide. the democratic party is not anti-trade. your thoughts? >> well first of all, the governors, 13 governors signed a letter to all the democrats in the congress including five from industrial states myself saying that this deal will increase jobs and increase high paying jobs. chris, the statistics are pretty clear. export jobs pay 18% more than nonexport related jobs do. if we're talking about highway jobs this is the area to do it. and consider ohio. what this deal does is it eliminates tariffs on goods. i'm going to give you five very good industries in ohio.

soybeans, pork metals machinery products and chemicals. they have tariffs ranging from 30% to 70% to 100% for pork. all those tariffs would be eliminated. today, those industries export $19 billion from ohio firms. if we eliminate those tariffs, the sky is the limit and the good paying jobs will be created. >> when i hear him talking about dollars and export sure exports have gone up but imports have gone up dramatically. phillies had a good series. they scored six runs five runnells and eight runs. the thing is the indians scored nine runs ten runnells and seven runnells. you can't just talk about exports. you talk about net trade relations. and the huge trade deficits we've run up with almost every country we trade with.

every shirt we wear is 100% cotton from china. our khaki pants which a lot of people wear. all come from china. the fact is nobody wants to go back to buy their clothes from south carolina. nobody wants to have protectionism again. they want to buy a toyota or any other kind of german or japanese car. they don't want to be told they can only buy american stuff how many do you say we're protectionists. how do you tell people that? >> i guess i don't understand why the word protection is a bad thing. we want our families protected. our neighborhoods protected. >> why shouldn't a consumer be allowed to buy what they want to buy in a free country? >> of course they should. but wits lower wages. where the emphasis is on corporate takeovers and stripping all kinds of assets, laying people off. and they don't make enough to buy the products. look around the world.

the people making cars in mexico, they don't have parking lots at those auto plants because the workers don't make enough to buy the cars they make. the fox cam workers in china making iphones don't have enough money to guy iphones they make. that's not the economy we want. we're moving for a the love americans. i'm thrilled with how well north america is doing in the silicon valley but i also see what's happening to working class people that ed rendell spent much of his people fighting for. i don't understand why he is for these trade agreements. i know the senator who -- one more thing. i know that senator casey who is the great senator from the state of pennsylvania is strongly against these trade agreements as i am. and he knows what this has done to his state also. >> in my eight years we spent a lot of money and resources promoting trade and exporting.

when i left pennsylvania was the ninth fastest state in job crease. the number one in job creation. and we tripled our exports in eight years and those were good paying jobs. >> congratulations. >> small manufacturing factories in middle size cities all over the state. >> you can have all kinds of examples and those are great things. governor strickland, by the way former governor of ohio thinks this is as bad as i think it is. i'm glad to hear your success stories. you have to look at net benefit and net loss. we're losing so many more manufacturing jobs. >> we created almost a million manufacturing jobs in the last four years. >> after losing 5 million in the decade before ed. >> but we're moving up. >> trade agreement will stop the success we've made. >> i think tearing down our economic growth isn't the way to sell this.

we do have 142 -- 30 million more jobs since you voted against nafta so something is working. >> in a country that's he knows the of millions of people larger than it was in 1993 too. >> the unemployment rate is lower than it was when you voted against nafta. it is lower. it is. >> the infrastructure revitalization program. that will create more manufacturing jobs. >> no question. >> tomorrow night i'll argue the other side of this fight. tomorrow night i'll go the other way. there are two sides to this argument. thank you. there are two sides. thank you, sir for coming on. i root for you all the time to be vp with hillary by the way. thank you. a reminder to both of you and to the public watching. tomorrow on "hardball." i will moderate a discussion on trade featuring president obama and local business leaders out in the well to do part of virginia.

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i think to be an effective politician you need to be a professional ingrate. you have to be willing to take peel's money and then not do everything they want you to do. you have to. that can be a hard thing to do.

i've learned it. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was of course jersey governor chris christie potential presidential candidate. now you have to ignore the money people give and you ignore them and don't give them anything. he was talking in new hampshire. a can you please hours after christie's event in washington, a florida mailman flew a gyrocopter, i didn't even know what they were landing steps from the u.s. comment. he was arrested. he was trying to bring attention to campaign finance reform which did he to some sentence. this is becoming increasingly important in the 2016 campaign trail. during hillary clinton's first week as an official candidate for president, she said one of her top priorities is to fix this rotten system. >> we need to build the economy of tomorrow. not yesterday. we need to strengthen families in communities, that's where it all starts. we need to fix our dysfunctional

political system and get unaccountable money out of it once and for all. even if that takes a constitutional amendment. >> unaccountable money. as campaign finance accountant says it has gotten to a point where candidates can't just complain about it and point out twla opponents are doing. they have to offer tankible solutions. let's bring in the roundtable. senior politics editor with the daily beast. from mother jones is that the national reporter. i don't think the average person as hillary clinton would say, the everyday person don't give money to candidates. they don't know anybody who does. so talking about money was somewhat boring because people can't identify with it. but stinking dirty, you know hidden dark money, it is called i think, bugs people.

the idea that some clever billionaire can influence politics like a safe cracker. screw some democrat he doesn't like or liberal he doesn't like and jam in money for one of his pals that will be his useful agents in washington. the sneakiness of it. >> in the last five years since the supreme court citizen united citizen, i think we've seen a growing awareness about how campaigns are financed. and advocates for tighter fence rules have tried to make this a campaign issue. now we're seeing evidence that it is really on the minds of voters. hillary clinton talking about it as one of her top campaign planks and now a lot of republicans are weighing in about the influence of big money and trying to find a way to propose solutions without completely endorsing an overhaul. >> why would a person want to hide that they're giving away money? most people would say i give a lot of money to that guy.

why do they sneak their money in in. >> i think a lot of reasons. people don't want a political payback. they don't want to be held accountable for rigging the system. you have ted cruz running and he has raised $31 million. a lot of it from a hedge fund guy who has had trouble with the fcc. and the koch brothers backing walker. >> in 2020 and 2015 the democrats in the congressional races, both times tries to run against the koch brothers. look at all this money. it didn't work for the koch brothers. but i think hillary is doing something interesting. if you connect it up maybe you can get a foot in the door with some people on these issues. >> what is the connection? >> the connection is that you have members of the senate and the house who are doing things to represent the fund here's are

becoming more and more important with the rise of super pacs and dark money. they have on cater to these people. even more so than they ever had to in the past. >> new numbers i am hearing, there is more money coming in. somebody runs for the u.s. senate. they'll get more money in that campaign from super pacs than from dialing for dollars. they. in other words, the money they raise in $2,700 allotments. it is lower when they add it up. so the big money guys have more clout than all the little people. they can give $2,700 a year. >> until there is a scandal that blows up the system i don't think you'll get the voter involvement. they would push their lawmakers to change things. the gyrocopter guy drew more attention to terrorism than did he to campaign finance. >> and then before that all the money was in peel's rain coats. no control. >> and the lobbying scandals.

>> then later we had mccain -- >> that came in. and he was involved in that. he clean up his act. >> and the clinton finance scandals obviously. the last two major scandals involved two presidents. president nixonon and president clinton. will it take a presidential scandal? >> how long do people stay marked by dirt? how long do people focus on it? not that long. >> i think it is maybe even shorter now because of the way the information universe works. we cycle through so fast. the internet twitter, facebook. i think you're right. you need a major treads. presidential scandal. >> we're both red heads. it is hard. the roundtable is staying with us. up next, the clown car. wait until you their zany talk. it's not even nice zany.

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years until we have a new commander in chief who will once again believe one nation under god and believe that people of faith should be a vital part of the process of not only governs this country, but defending this country. >> remember that thing in the constitution? i'm curious item that says no religious test for public -- remember that one? riding shotgun is wayne la pierre, who offers this denigrating political insight. >> i have to tell you, eight years of one demographically symbolic president is enough. >> we'll get to that. illustrate sitting in the backseat is congressman steve king, who is convinced the immigration reform directives are secretly a way to get out the democratic vote. >> the president is importing millions of illegal aliens who

when they arrive they are undocumented democrats, he thinks. this is the president trying to stack the electoral in america with millions of people lawlessly bringing them -- >> so let's start with wayne lapierre. for the first time in its history, and then a little sideswipe, he knocks the fact they may well elect the first woman. this is his knock. your thoughts? >> i think a lot of the comments are aimed at ginning up the basis right now. it will be a challenge for candidates like jeb bush who is trying to strike a moderate -- >> who is the base they're talking to? why do they have a problem with a black president? >> i don't know. you're going to have to ask wayne lapierre. i think a lot of the comments are intended to incendiary. >> i think we've seen the base

of the last eight, seven years that's been a profound reaction to barack obama, and they keep wanting to depict him as the other. whetherist demographically symbolic a secret socialist or a muslim i lose track. >> kenyan. >> or a secret kenyan. they keep saying he's not american, he doesn't believe in america, he's not an american exceptionalist, and the base has gotten so used to it that to score with them you can't go go from 1 to 10 you have to go to 11 12 or 13 to registered. >> particularly when you're talking about the clintons you really need to say anything you just need to say clinton and it kind of gets crazy. i think they do need to go the extra mile. >> rand paul is asking his twitter followers to send in any dirt on secretary clinton. do you know of her accepting

money from foreign countries? report it now. it's like if you see something, say something. >> but they're not asking you to donate. >> what do you think of huckabee saying don't join the military. don't. >> we laugh at some of this stuff, because it's so outrageous, but at the same time it's so profoundly anti-patriotic and it's realtily hard to imagine people saying this ten years ago. i think the standards have fallen even below what they used to be even during the clinton year to say don't join the military? >> that's his message. it's untrue it's insulting -- >> they talk like they think the base is wearing sheets. they may have underestimated statistic republican voter. thank you, jackie could you in addition, and david corn and matea. two young good governors.

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let me fin tonight with the two young governors i listened to yet on "meet the press." they're the best news in american politics i've heard for a good while. both were positive focused on job creation and didn't use their time to trash the other side. this stuff has become far too rare. first terry mcauliffe of virginia, then john kasich of

ohio. both deserve our attention, because both give us hope that our political system is bringing up at least a few good apples. >> what voters want is someone to late out an agenda to how to show the country forward. that's right, let they do it. from my perspective, every second they're not talking about how we move this great nation forward is great for hillary clinton. let he lay out her positive agenda. it's what i did when i ran for governor. we had a historic win. >> if you cannot convince people you understand their problems and you're going to try to fix them, you're not going to win anything. so i'm not so much into the attack mode and all that other business. i'm into solving problems. frankly chuck if we don't solve problems our children our communities certainly, and around the world or friends think we're confused and our enemies are emboldened and we're not fixing anything and

we can if we stop hanging out in our silos thinking we have all the answers. and realize you can promise without losic your principles. i'm impressed. join us tomorrow night for my meeting with president obama. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. \s tonight on "all in" saddam hussein's men plot to take back iraq, and a report from der spiegel and the former numbs number of times reporter judith miller on the -- that led america to war the next 20 months will be a dangerous time like "lord of the flies." 18 republican hopefuls square off. and anthony weiner on