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have databases and they made probablistic statements that simply had no basis in science. >> this extends -- i think there was an amazing piece about bite marks. >> we've had 24 exonerations involving bite mark >> peter neufeld, thank you. >> my pleasure. >> that is all for this evening. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. >> thanks man. >> the terrorist group isis has released another new very disturbing video showing members beheading and shooting dozens of people. what is different about this latest video is that it appears to combine the home base in iraq and syria with new execution footage which appears to have been very shot far away in the nation of libya. terrorist groups all over the world have pledged allegiance, to isis in recent months but it has not always been clear that that meant there was some sort of operational relationship between isis headquarters in
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iraq and syria and these far flung groups in plays like nigeria or somalia or libya or anywhere else. but in this latest propaganda film, the footage of these murders in libya, this massacre of people in libya, is not only interspersed with other footage that seems like it was clearly shot in syria and iraq, the whole thing also appears to have been produced by the same isis media production team that has made all of the other scarily slick videos we have seen from them. so somehow the libyan branch of isis got their execution footage to the guys in iraq and syria to produce this movie. so this is not just some random group of fighters in libya calling themselves isis because it's a cool new thing. it actually appears to be an operational wing of isis working with isis headquarters, but in a totally separate noncontiguous country. >> in the video, the isis
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narrator explains that the dozens of men who are shown being killed in the video were targeted by isis because threw are christians. it was reporting over the weekend that the men in the video are ethiopians. the ethiopian government confirmed today that its citizens were among the men killed in the video. even though libya is for all intents and purposes a war zone, libya still does attract large numbers of migrants from other parts of africa either because people come there looking for work in the libyan oil industry or they make their way to libya for another reason which is libya has become a place from which human smuggers pack up ships full of desperate refugees to take them on a very, very dangerous sea crossing from libya across the mediterranean see into europe. the closest european lan they're trying to get to is the tiny italian island of lampadusa. which is completely isolated in
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the middle of the mediterranean, very far from everything but it is technically italy and lamp adduce sa has therefore seen hundreds of thousands of refugees risk their lives to try to set foot on that tiny island as a way of getting themselves into europe. well, that human struggle industry produced this weekend what may be the deadliest single incident of what is a very deadly illegal human smuggling industry. nobody knows exactly how many hundreds were crammed onto a fishing vessel that rolled over and sunk saturday night 70 miles off the coast of libya about 120 miles from the island of lampedusa, but it is feared that the number of people who may have died when that ship went down is in the range of 700 to 900 people. a special ship that was passing by the fishing boat said the rollover might have been caused when people on deck all ran to one side of that overloaded fishing boat to the try to
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signal to the passing commercial vessel that they needed help. when all of those people moved to one side and all of that weight shifted that reportedly is when the boat went over. so far only a couple dozen people have been found alive, and a couple dozen bodies. the italian coast guard and every ship in the region has been called in to try to help find any survivors. that just overwhelming search and rescue effort was under way starting saturday night, the italian coast guard and the coast guard of the nation of malta were also called out while that rescue effort was under way, they were called to respond to two distress calls from two other boats that were also overloaded with refugees trying to get to europe. simultaneously in that same area, the coast guard from italy and malta moved in to rescue people on an inflatable raft that had been packed with 150 to 100 people. another distress call from a separate vessel that had something like 300 people on it. simultaneous to that, further
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east in greece, in the aegean sea, this incredible rescue effort was mounted. this is in the aegean sea off the greek coast near an island called whoeds and a wooddon sailboat overloaded with migrants crashed into the rocks off the greek island of rhodes and local people and the greek coast coward waded in to res pugh people off the rocks after the boat they were in grounded and then broke up in the sea. as you can see the footage is just incredible. people holding on to the wreckage as the boat is sinking. there's tons of kids. they rescued more than 90 people. this is not a new problem, but this is a problem that is getting worse. until last year the italian coast guard maintained a large and pretty effective search and rescue operation in the mediterranean, actively searching for undeclared overloaded boats like this to
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try to reduce the loss of life as people would try to do anything to get themselves to europe. that effective effort counter intuitively led to criticism that maybe it was making the problem worse, that maybe the italian coast guard was being too long effective at rescuing people and keeping them alive and em boldening the smugglers to take more and more people out in more and more dangerous conditions can because they were starting to be convinced that the coast guard would rescue them. that let to domestic pressure in italy, that italy should stop that program last year simply because of its effectiveness. that proactive italian coast guard effort was disbanded last fall. now today european corrupts are considering true basically restart it, maybe a sort of joint, beefed up effort to replace what the italians stopped doing last year. so there's this question, right, of whether or not you can keep people alive once the human smugglers have shoved them out
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into the open med terrain on these rickety overloaded boats. the question is whether your efforts to keep them alive might inadvertently put more of them at risk. >> there's also the more fundamental question of whether or not the human smuggling industry can be stopped. today, after what looks like it may end up being the deadliest disaster of its kind ever, with 700 or 900 people on board, many of them women and children after that and the simultaneous twin rescues of more than 400 people on the two boats off the coast of libya, and the terrifying rescue on the rocks in xwrooes greece today essentially as all of those things happened at once the prime ministers of italy and malta proposed doing something else calling for what the "new york times" described as targeted nonmilitary intervention against libya's traffickers. targeted but nonmilitary, a crackdown on the human smugglers
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in libya somehow, as the demand is higher than ever, right? as migrants and refugees flood into libya from all over africa, from all over the middle east, from all over that part of the world, trying to use libya as a launching point to try to get themselves into europe to save themselves and save their families. how would you crack down on that industry in libya if you wanted to? unless you were physically going to stop the smugglers loading people on to these boats, unless you're physically going to stop them which would effectively be a military action it is hard to imagine how else you would do it because there are no authorities in libya to crack down on them by any other means. libya doesn't have a government that controls its whole territory. it has a few competing groups that say they govern specific places, but there is no governing authority let alone one capable of taking apart a big lucrative criminal syndicate
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that may be handling hundreds of thousands of people for years. just for scale here. in the first 17 days of this month, more than 11,000 people were rescued while trying to make that crossing from libya. how many more got through? so this is a huge international humanitarian crisis made all more difficult to solve because it has to be solved in one of the world's ungoverned spaces, libya. but ungoverned or undergoverned territory is where the largest humanitarian disasters seem to emerge these days, particularly the ones hard to solve, ungoverned and undergoverned spaces are also increasingly where we tend to have our wars. this is some remarkable footage, a very short piece of tape. this was the capital city of sanaa earlier today. [ speaking foreign language ] [ explosion ]
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>> what was apparently a saudi air strike on the capital city of sanaa in yemen today had an unexpectedly huge blast. it's not exactly clear why that explosion was so big. whoever was filming this, the reason the camera gets all shaky at the end and everything goes dark is because the debris from that blast hits the camera. nobody exactly knows why that was so big. it may have been an air strike that hit a munitions dump or something, but that bomb today in sanaa is said to have flattened multiple buildings in that country's capital city. saudi arabia has been bombing yemen, including its capital city for about four weeks. the u.s. has been providing logistical and intelligence support to the saudis for this campaign although u.s. personnel have been not been flying bombing raids alongside the saudi pilots. there are reports today, though, that the u.s. military has become increasingly concerned that the saudi jets dropping
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bombs on yemen might be at risk of getting shot down over yemen. "wall street journal" reports today that the u.s. military, quote, is especially concerned about the possibility that iran might ship into yemen surface to air missiles that are capable of shooting down those saudi bombers. iran is siding with the houthi rebels trying to take over yemen. the saudis are siding against them. "usa today" reports since last week. the pentagon has been tracking the progress of a convoy of iranian ships headed toward yemen, specifically headed toward the gulf of aden. and the of pentagon believes what's on that flotilla of iranian ships might be a shipment of weapons for those houthi fighter in yemen that iran is supporting. if that's true and a big cache of weapons and they can successfully delivered them to it the hughtys in yemen and if
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those weapons include game changing technology like surface-to-air missiles that could seriously affect both, of course, of the civil war inside yemen and the international war on and around yemen of which the u.s. is now a part. so as those eight or nine iranian ships steam toward the gulf of aden what they will find when they get there is a very crowded neighborhood already. the saudis have ships in the gulf of aden. they're sitting there off the coast of yemen to essentially impose a blockade to prevent weapons from being brought in to help the side that they're fighting. the u.s. is also participating in that blockade. the u.s. already has seven navy vessels in the gulf of aden right now. two destroyers, the "uss forrest sherman" and the "winston churchill." two mine sweepers, three
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amphibious ships, iwo jima new york collectively carrying about 2200 u.s. marines. if you add up the navy personnel on board the other ships they have about 750 u.s. sailors on board roughly. that means already right now in the gulf of aden, the u.s. has about 3,000 u.s. sailors and marines already there, as that convoy of eight or nine iranian ships heads right for them. those 3,000 or so u.s. sailors and marines already in the gulf of aden, they are about to get a very large influx of friendly neighbors into this crowded neighborhood. because in addition to the saudis having ships there and the egyp slunz already having their ships there and the seven u.s. navy vessels already there in addition to all of that the navy has now decided to send, as well a guided missile cruiser called the "uss more nandy which has about 400 u.s. navy personnel on board and also this little guy.
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the "uss theodore roosevelt" which is an aircraft carrier. that guy has approximately 6,000 u.s. personnel on board. the full complement of u.s. sailors and marines participating in whatever we're calling this off the coast of yemen right now is i don't know, ballpark roughly 9,000 u.s. personnel. the pentagon and white house thus far are declining to state what exactly this is besides a show of force. what's going to happen when those iranian boats get there? what's the interaction going to be between the iranian flotilla that the u.s. thinks is probably carrying weapons and the aircraft carrier? if the u.s. military determines that those boats are full of weapons that iran is planning to deliver to the hutis and the u.s. is participating in a weapons blockade, where nobody is allowed to give weapons to the houthis, is the u.s. going to stop delivery by force?
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and then is that war with iran? in order to get this aircraft carrier "the uss theodore roosevelt" in position off the coast of yem condition for whatever is about to happen there, the u.s. military had to take the roosevelt out of where it had been which is in the persian gulf. since early march the "roosevelt" has been in there in support of the u.s. air war against isis in iraq and syria. so that aircraft carrier is leaving the theater where we're at war in iraq and syria to go to yemen instead. the air war in iraq and syria we're about eight months into it. the pentagon says there have been about 3400 air strikes in that campaign in total. today in washington this letter was sent to house speaker boehner calling for a congressional vote to authorize that air war in iraq and syria eight months after it the started. for the first time it's actually a bipartisan call for a congressional vote.
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for the first time a republican has said we ought to vote on that. >> into the letter is co-signed by adam schiff who has been trying to get a vote on the war but also by a republican by tom cole who is not only a republican congressman but also a close ali of house speaker john boehner. that could politically be important. this is the first time a republican has joined in the calls for congress to vote on authorizing that air war in the house. i don't know if that makes that debate and potentially vote more likely or not, but it's becoming increasingly clear by the time congress finally does get around to it if they do get around to it it's entirely possible that by then we will be involved in a whole new war all together one in which we've got 9,000 u.s. personnel deployed already in another part of the world that is basically a hole in the map where the u.s. is involved without any domestic debate whatsoever, in a complicated fight, not against any recognizable government, but with a complicated set of allies
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fighting against what emerges when governments disappear. >> joining us now is deyon nissenbaum. i appreciate having you here. >> thanks for having me. >> in terms of the u.s. show of force in the gulf of aden we expect that we're going to be looking at nine u.s. naval vessels there all together and about 9,000 u.s. personnel. is that your understanding? >> yeah, well, the navy tells me there's up to a dozen ships heading there. they've got some resupply ships sitting there but obviously the big one is the "roos wealth." that's what they're hoping that they will send a message to iran. they want to put in an aircraft carrier. they want that to be a deterrence to say to iran, if you want to bring in weapons, we're here, and we want you to stop and to ratchet down the tensions here, and let's get to the peace negotiations, and not have things get out of control in the gulf of aden.
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>> is that an empty threat? or is there actually a plan wherein u.s. navy personnel or marines would actually board those iranian ships if it came to that? >> i don't think you're going to see u.s. navy personnel board any iranian ships. you know, that's probably out of the question. but you do have saudi ships there, and you do have egyptian ships there. they're the ones that are really taking the lead here in enforcing this blockade. i think they want a u.s. carrier there to support them. if there was going to be some kind of provocative showdown in the gulf, i think you would see the saudis and the egyptians take the lead. but they're really hoping this flotilla will go by and there's not going to be a showdown. this is pretty serious. >> is this a ratcheting up of the u.s. presence there that is likely to be quite temporary? is this specifically about this flotilla and if they do pass by and nothing happens or they're
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deterred from doing something they might have otherwise done that that aircraft carrier and some of those other vessels will leave? >> yeah, certainly the aircraft carrier moves throughout that region. some pentagon officials were trying to downplay this move early on, saying look this is just a normal rotation moving from the persian gulf to the med. they do this all the time. they transit back and forth. this is the kind of thing they're there to do. but we are really watching what the iranians are doing here. this is a provocative step. they are trying to prevent more arms from getting in. and if they need to camp there for an highway, they're certainly ready to do that. this is, you know, as the u.s. military likes to say, the enemy has a vote in this, and so what iran does is going to really affect what happens over the next few days. >> in terms of timing, how quickly do these ships move? and when do we expect that this
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encounter of whatever kind is going to happen might happen? >> it could happen over several days. they think it could happen as soon as this week, but the coast of yemen is long. it runs up through the red sea, so they could try to put those weapons aboard any of those places. so there's going to be several days of watching the ships as it's along the coast there. >> dion nissenbaum, thank you for helping us understand it. fascinating stuff. i appreciate you being here. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> it is weird to me that there's all of this political debate right now about technically foreign policy and about whether or not president obama is a strong leader. all the stuff that's going on around 2016 politicking and republican candidates in particular trying to position themselves as the new strong guy op foreign policy issues. and the debate is really not about the all of the super strategic, complicated, undebated stuff that's happening right now, not hypothetically but really in foreign policy.
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this thing in yemen is on. there's 9,000 personnel there. this thing in iraq and syria is on. congress hasn't said beep about it. the afghanistan war has just been ramped up again. they're going to keep 10,000 personnel there will through the end of the year. the talk in american domestic politics is about things that might happen. someday we'll have a debate about the things that are. we'll be right back. look like this. feel like this. look like this. feel like this. with dreamwalk insoles, turn shoes that can be a pain into comfortable ones. their soft cushioning support means you can look like this. and feel like this. dreamwalk. ford is taking the ecoboost challenge all across america. here we go! check out escape and find out why ford is the brand more people buy and buy again. wow! that's a four-cylinder? i thought it was a six. i definitely feel the ecoboost in the ford escape. that's like a sports car. i just opened my trunk with my foot. i prefer, without a doubt, the escape over the cr-v.
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one of the ships that was nuclear bombed was an aircraft carrier called the "uss independence." the "uss independence had recently returned from service in the pacific theater in word war ii. this is what it looked like after it was nuked in all its radio active glory. after that experiment, the beleague eared u.s. independence was moved to a naval shipyard in san francisco where the military studied how to decontaminate something like that. but then in 1951, so five years after they nuked it. they ended up towing the thing 30 miles out to sear and sunk it in a secret location in a location off of the northern california coast that till now has been secret. last month the u.s. government teamed up with the boeing corporation to try to map the wreck of the "uss independence using a little submersible craft. they did find it.
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they found is sitting upright about a half mile below the surface of the ocean, and that it's amazingly intact. believe it or not, there may even be a plane still sitting on the flight deck. a half mile below the sea. we've posted a link to the sonar images of this thing. if but want to check it out, it's pretty amazing thing to see. it's also a pretty amazing ship. we sent this guy to do hard combat in the pacific, then we nuked it then we sunk it and now sitting upright still basically intact and proud. an aircraft carrier's work is never done. we'll be right back. automotive innovation starts... right here. with a control pad than can read your handwriting, a wide-screen multimedia center,
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in the september before the 2012 election, karl rove's super pac american crossroads released this damning ad.
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>> a president who skips half of his intelligence briefings, but finds time to play more than 100 rounds of golf. >> no. half of his intelligence briefings? before it appeared in that attack ad, that same claim appeared in the op-ed of "the washington post." it was not long before it made its way to the whole universe. the president playing hooky. the president doesn't do his daily intelligence briefings, he plays golf instead, and then just as your crazy great uncle was e-mailing you about it with the caps lock key stuck on and posting about it all over his my space page "the washington post" fact checked their own opinion piece on this matter and ended up setting the record straight. it turns out president obama did not miss more than half his daily intelligence briefings. ta-da. he does get the daily briefings every day, every single day. the scandal is that sometimes he reads them.
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i know, reading, very suspicious in a leader. >> it turns out that breathless but not exactly factual bit of reporting with all the that political purchase which "the washington post" had to debunk from its own pages, that bit of news came from a right-leaning research group called the government accountability institute. they released a report called daily briefs complete with not accurate thoughts, showing how president obama was having fewer and fewer briefings by the year, except he wasn't. the guy that heads up that research group that wrote that report is named peter schweizer. that all happened with the presidential daily briefing stuff, that was 2012. the following year he resurfaced in this column for politico.com. this was showcasing his reporting, something else his group had discovered, another damning bit of news about
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president no-bama. this time what his group says they uncovered from july 2010 and november 2013, president obama had zero one-on-one meetings with the head of health and human services kathleen sebelius which is right in the midst of this roll out of obamacare. and that's a terrible scandal. they delved into his schedule, and found that he saw her only once in that whole time and it was in a joint meeting with the treasure robbery secretary tim geithner. gosh, president obama didn't even care what was going on with obamacare. wrong again. turns out cabinet secretaries who regularly visit the white house do not always appear on a visitors log or get listed in public schedules. kathleen sebelius did visit the white house tons of times during that time period, despite what peter schweizer and his government accountability institute made up and then convinced oftentimes reasonable outlets like politico to print
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as if it were fact. so that's peter schweizer and his research institute they're back in the news. he is releasing a new book on may 5th that's titled "clinton cash," the untold story of how and why foreign governments and businesses helped to make bill and hillary clinton rich. the book reportedly delves into the donations giving to the clinton foundation run by former press bill clinton while hillary clinton was secretary of state and it looks into whether or not secretary clinton did any resulting favors for the people making those donations. the author's conservative research group is already calling this their new book. you kind of see how this fits into a pattern of things, right? this is not a surprising turn. when you take a closer look at the organization and who is backing him, it is a who's who of big right-wing funders, including one of the guys behind
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the right wing media site breitbart.com for which he's previously written. also the billionaire family that is currently bankrolling ted cruz's presidential run. again, none of this is particularly surprising. he previously served as an advisor to vice presidential nominee sarah palin and also a speech writing consultant to the president george w. bush. if you were going to expect where the new tell-all book was going to come from this is where you pick a new citizen united style book attack on hillary clinton. no real surprise that before this book hits the shelves, none other than the fox news channel has an exclusive television deal to report on the explosive contents of the book. tonight the host at fox news who is called bret baier had a special report. on this new book. if that's not enough for you, this friday he's going to having an hour long special on it it, the tangled clinton web.
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so that's all exactly what you would expect, right? that's all par for the course. what is not par for the course what is surprising is that along with the fox news channel having some sort of exclusive deal to advance hype this anti clinton book from this conservative activist who has a history of doing stuff like this we are also now learning that the "new york times" and "the washington post" have also entered into some kind of arrangement with the author with peter schweizer to pursue the material included in his book in advance of its release. so fox news channel, okay, and the "new york times" and "the washington post"? running with this guy's thesis in an arrangement that that he made with him in advance of the book being published? we reached out to the news outlets to get information, they told us they stand behind the agreements. they told us there was no payment involved, no financial aspect to any agreement. they both said essentially they were taking material from the book to further their own
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independent reporting on the clintons, but it is strange or at least striking given this particular author's history with inaccurately reporting things in the past, but reporting them in a way that is appealingly exclammer to and exciting enough to the political press that he sometimes gets past the standards of real news outlets and gets his stuff in print and then those outlets have to correct him later. while "new york times" and "the washington post" seem to be working with the author, there's an effort on the other side to -- to undercut the author's credibility, i guess we could say? to promote this guy's past? to put this guy in context? it's headed up by a media watch dog on the left called media matters. we've got more on that night next. stay with us.
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kinds of distraction and attacks and i'm ready for that. i know that that comes unfortunately with the territory. it is, i think worth noting that the republicans seem to be talking only about me. i don't know what they would talk about if i weren't in the race, but i am in the race, and hopefully we'll get onto the issues and i look forward to that. >> former secretary of state hillary clinton in new hampshire addressing questions about reported allegations in an upcoming book that's not released yet called "clinton cash." the book is basically opposition research from a conservative group led by a guy who does this stuff and has for a long time. the family bankrolling the ted cruz campaign are on the board of his organization. the surprising twist, the whole shopping the opo-research story, the twist that doesn't make much sense to me yet at least is that the midst of celebrating their
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multiple pulitzer prizes today the two most esteemed newspapers in america, the "new york times" and "the washington post" both outlets today said they have had made agreements with the author of that opo research group that they will follow up on his reporting. joining us is a combatant on the other side. david brock. his group put out a whole dossier today on peter schweizer and his history for getting things wrong. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me on. >> it's not unusual for campaigns or for partisans who support or oppose campaigns to try to shop oppo research to try to get it to the cover it as news. do you think there's something different peter has done with this book? >> i don't know if it's
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different but i would say it's disappointing that the '90s is chasing the same story as fox news. i think what we have here that might be unique is a convergence of millions of dollars being spent by republicans on opposition research, and a press corps that's so competitive on the clinton beat that they're looking for any anti-clinton crumb. what happens in the situation, which may be happening here, is that, you know, i have no problem with the "times" vetting books. i've written books. that's not really unusual, but i think they didn't set the bar particularly high here because this is author has a rap sheet as you already set up as long as my arm. we did a 7,000-word report for media matters today. we found ten instances of really seriously botched journalism, and retractions, corrections, media getting burned by picking up this material and these weren't our words but people saying sources that don't exist and facts that don't check out. and not meeting the standards of journalism 101.
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so i think you have the journalistic story, and then you have the political story that you've covered, which is to say this is much more of a coordinated political attack than it is a typical book tour. >> in terms of the way this -- the way this campaign is shaping up, it is very unusual to have a de facto nominee pre-primary on the democratic side. that may change but right now with a 50-point lead in the polls over anybody else she is the defacto nominee. this weekend in new hampshire, there were, i kid you not, 21 republican candidates in appearance at one of the republican forums, there are so many of them. how is that going to drive the part of this process that is paying for opposition research? i mean, back in your conservative days, you were hired hands on the anti-clinton oppo-research side. how do you think that's going to work this year with this dynamic? >> that's right. i was once involved in what was correctly called the vast
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right wing conspiracy but the atlantic magazine upgraded to say a right wing conglomerate. i think that's what we have now. they do this all the time. they take the good works of someone, in this case the good works of the clinton foundation and they try to turn it into a liability. what we are seeing is swiftboats docking early. this is a political campaign, very sophisticated. they have briefed marco rubio and briefed rand paul but i would say if those folks thing that a winning political strategy is attacking a foundation that's done things like stopping the aids epidemic in africa, let's have at it. >> david brock, founder of media matters, thanks for your time. >> thank you we'll be right back. stay with us. ent for drawing, flo. house! car! oh, raise the roof! no one? remember when we used to raise the roof, diane? oh, quiet, richard i'm trying to make sense of flo's terrible drawing. i'll draw the pants off that thing. oh, oh, hats on hamburgers! dancing! drive-in movie theater! home and auto. lamp! squares. stupid, dumb. lines.
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are finding that they just can't get the drugs they want to use for lethal injections. they just can't get them. it's getting desperate. first it was the companies that make the drugs. they stopped shipping them to prisons saying they were deliberately misusing those farm suit cas by uing them for executions. some states then turned to compounding pharmacy wiz hand mix drugs in small batches. they're used to make drugs for patients who might need particular medicine but maybe you have some allergy to one of the ingredients used as a filler in the drug. maybe they'll make you a batch of the drug without that filner it. it can come in handy in a case like that. but compounding drugs is a delicate business with life and death consequences. there has been trouble in that industry over the past few years. in 2012, there was a huge problem. a compounding pharmacy in massachusetts sent out contaminated batches after steroids that were meant for spinal injections. that botched medication gave hundreds of people fungal meningitis all over the country
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from the new hampshire top idaho. dozens of people died. in december, they arrested 14 people associated with that compounding pharmacy. they charged the two top executives from the firm with murder. yeah, that massachusetts case, other recent instances of compounding pharmacies running into the sharp end of the law has made for a bad patch for the compounding pharmacy industry. perhaps sensing that their industry was in need of an image upgrade so people stopped thinking of them like this late last month, the leading trade group announced that just like the drug industry had stopped providing prisons with drugs to kill people in executions compounding pharmacies should opt out of that process, too. that was the new message from the compounding pharmacists association. stop making drugs for killing prisoners. so the states are really up against it now. they can't buy drugs to kill prisoners from the drug's manufacturers. increasingly they can't go with
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plan b either where they get compounding pharmacies to make them the drugs. so states that want to kill their prisons by injecting them with pharmaceuticals they're getting to be out of options here. almost. but look at this. this is amazing. this is an inventory of the drugs on hand at the mississippi execution chamber. you can see right there. pentobarbital, sodium powder. pen toebarbital is one of the drugs they use to kill prisoners for lethal injection. but not as a powder. it has to be liquid, right? mississippi for some reason has it on hand in powder form. but if you wanted to inject it into somebody to kill them, you have to get it mixed into injectable form by a pharmacy. with pharmacies getting out of that kind of business who's going to cook them up that drug and why do they have the active ingredient on hand in a different form? today, we learned about a new court filing raising a prospect that the state of mississippi has been thinking about home brewing their own execution
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drugs. this new legal challenge says the state either intends to mix the stuff up itself for the next prison right there at the prison where there does not appear to be a compounding pharmacy or maybe they plan to send that raw ingredient which they have obtained maybe they're going to send that raw ingredient to god knows what pharmacy if the state can find one that's still willing to do that work. so prisoners challenging mississippi plan has been able to figure out that mississippi has raw drug making ingredients stashed at the prison but not the drugs themselves. they're on hand at the prison where they kill people. the prospect is therefore raised that mississippi is going to make home brewed lethal injection drugs. as the supreme court gets ready to hear a case that could get rid of the collapsed increasingly impossible system of lethal injection, that apparently is the way one state is trying to get around the hurdles. on tomorrow night's show we'll have an exclusive report on
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something even more radical something no other state has done ever but one pioneering state has cooked up something even more intense than mississippi trying to home make their own injectable drugs. the story is strange. it is exclusive and it will be here tomorrow night on a little show that we call the rachel maddow show". welcome to colorado. >> jungle, baby. >> land of the legal weed. and home to america's latest billion-dollar industry, marijuana. this is part of history because what did the end of alcohol prohibition mean to that generation? dynasties, right? >> i took everything i had. 401, ira and dropped it into this. >> i feel like we're in a once in a lifetime position. every state is looking at this. >> the demand really is that much more than the supply. >> we grew closer to 1,000% last year. >> this year we're doing $12 million. >> i hate to fail.