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all right. welcome to "morning joe" everyone. i think the sun is coming up from new york. >> temporarily. >> it's supposed to rain at noon. >> come on! with us on set we have wet blanket willie geist. >> it's 48 degrees it starts snowing. >> what is the deal? why aren't we done? democratic congressman darryl ford jr. is with us. >> good morning. >> national politics phil mattingly and david walk. he's already complaining. i came out here to visit and the guy was having a fit. >> was he really? throwing things out?
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>> getting the coffee it's early. >> standard mattingly. >> everybody knows. >> is that what happens? one of those guys in this business. >> clubhouse boys if, you get him on boom boom he's going to get the hit. >> okay. white house correspondent assistant to the press julia pace is with us and he's no diva columnist for bloomberg view, al hunt. >> oh, al hunt these worst diva led zeppelin think 1971, hammer the gods. the guy, he takes it to a totally different level. >> and there are some stories. about him in hotel rooms. >> trashing them? >> completely trashing them throwing tv sets out the window. >> what would she say? >> thank god she doesn't know. it's horrible, anyway. we cleared all that up right, willie? willie, you think you are going to do like one of those ancestor
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things on pbs? you had dr. gates here. that's really cool. >> i think it's cool. you are kind of like you never know what you are going to get in life really like you say is like a box of chocolates. so sometimes you go back and you find, you know, you find out. you say like somebody back there that you didn't expect. right? >> it's all going to be out in the opened. >> it will be out in the opened. because this is pbs. >> okay. what did you get? >> i get, you know, it's very interesting. i got the really crazy history. but i wasn't on the tv sew. but ben affleck. >> oh! now i get it. >> you follow this right? old man gentle ben, he finds out that he has a slave like -- have slave owning. >> like eight generations. remember anderson keeper, did you see him? they show him, he's like, breaks down, starts crying. >> so emotional.
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>> very emotional. >> it's so devastating to him. it's like eight generations, ago, and irson, nono one is putting that on you. he starts working to scrub it. pressuring them to not let them know one of his ancestors 800 years ago was a slave owner. >> and came out in hacked e-mails. they came out. it was berp affleck e-mailed pbs according to e-mails asked they not include the part that it was revealed how many generations ago, he had a slave owning relative. >> they scrubbed it. >> he reported that yesterday. >> all right. >> here's the statement. >> i don't know why we are talking about this. >> i think it's absolutely ridiculous that somebody is that obsessive. >> i think it's fun. it is a little obsessive and
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self involved. >> can we get to the real news? >> less than a month after a justice department report that dea agents attended sex parties with prost substitutes overseas. >> wait, this is the real news? what agency is this? >> i'm telling you, this is the dea. >> willie why didn't we get involved in government service? >> you did. >> my bad. >> oh can i restate that? >> last night. >> willie why didn't you get involved in government service? all right. go ahead. >> attorney general eric holder said if a statement that drug enforcement agency administrator has inform him of her decision, michelle leonhart, she wrote she is a trail blazer for equality and led this distinguished agency with honor. but her eight-year tenure in the top job is ending. congress grilled her last week
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on how she handled the scandal on the site overship community. she has battled the white house on liberalizing marijuana policy opposing state moves to legalize its use and remove penalties for distribution even as president obama said they should be allowed to go forward. leonhart is expected to leave her post sometime next month. >> what can you tell us darryl hunt? >> i think when you are anti-pot and pro-sex party you are government. she may have served a long distinguished career blazer. she is out of sorts with the administration and congress. she has an a she has to go. >> where are we having all these problems? they seem to all be blowing up at the same time the dea, the secret service, a complete lack of discipline from top to bottom. >> i don't know if i go top to
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bottom. i'd worried more if it were in the pentagon and other places i suppose. i think both those agencies have trouble. it looks like secret service pay have a person there, informant to create discipline. dea needs the same thing. >> julian, your response or take from the white house? >> the white house has said as late as yesterday they had questions. they were drubld by what had come out when she was testifying on the hill. when you have the press secretary basically making that as far as they will go in terms of standing by you you know you are in trouble. i don't think there was anyway she was going to be able to stay on the job. especially given this was not a partisan attack on her. it was very bipartisan, you have 13 democrats that express no confidence in her. i think it was inevitable. >> let's go to baltimore the justice department launched an investigation into the death of freddie grey, hundreds marched if west baltimore yesterday demanding justice for the man
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that died from a spinal chord injury in police custody. it remains unclear. they are asking why police pursued him in the first place here's nbc's tom costello. >> reporter: the justice department announced it is opening its own investigation into how freddie grey suffered a fatal injury in police custody. demonstrators on the streets of baltimore are determined to find answers. gray family attorney billy murphy wants to know why freddie gray was being classied in the first place. >> the plan was arrested for literally running for a black as we also jokingly on the inside say felony running. >> reporter: just over the past four years, baltimore has paid out nearly $6 million in judgments and settlements involving police brutality and civil rights violations. but the mistrust goes back decades. local nbc reporter jane miller
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has covered the city for years. >> these folks in these communities, where there is higher crime, where there is depopulation and there is blight they are dealing with this kind of interaction with police all the time. >> reporter: the police commissioner was meeting with residents in the same neighborhood. >> we have a long way ahead of us. we are aware of that. >> baltimore bliss say they expect to finish their investigation by next friday. it will then go to the baltimore states attorney who will decide whether to file the charges in that city, it's a tough times, i don't think this is i think this is going to get worse before it gets better. people will be pretty angry. >> harold, tough times and again the question is what happened inside that van? >> you know what, culturally speaking police officers around the country do brave work every day. you know the country is watching activity. how this happened is a tragedy for this family, for this
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community. you have as to wonder how and why police are engageing in arrested citation quotas, maybe that 3450edz needs to be analyzed right away by the police chief in this country. secondly police officers one would have to think you'd want to pull back particularly with potential offenders not violent. there is nothing you can see he or she has done. for this kid to get into a police van and get out with his spine severed -- >> we don't know what happened. >> when he was in cuffs it was clearly agony. i'm not sure maybe in the heat of the moment you don't hear that as a cop. certainly, when you are listening to that tape, it's blood kurdleing. a zleem would make a mother wince. >> clearly, he was asking for an inhaleer. >> he said he was asthmatic. >> it's easy to judge from this side. let's move on to politics.
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republican senator and presidential candidate ted cruz is taking back comments he made more than to more than 100 gun owners in new hampshire over the weekend. he said he was pressing senate armed service committee chairman john mccain about eliminating a ban on soldiers carrying concealed firearms on military bases, but the arizona senator said that was news to him and mocked senator cruz now, cruz is changing his story. >> i may have misspoken in new hampshire that i said i had been pressing john mccain, what i had been pressing was the armed services committee and john mccain is the few chairman of it. i had sent a letter to the new chairman, i had not communicated that to john directly. although i had a hearing and will continue to raise wit john mccain because the committee ought to look at listen to the military's arguments. the military brass opposes this. we ought to hear their arguments. but i'm a big believer in defending the 2nd amendment rights of everyone including
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our soldiers. >> senior mccain later tweeted ted cruz is a friend. bless your heart. but says he is a valuable friend and valued member of the armed services committee. blah blah blah blah blah. i don't sense he's such a friend of john mccain but ted cruz learned valuable lessons, when you are in the bigs, everything you say is on mic. you can't blow it up like you did on the campaign trail in west texas. >> and when it deals directly with a law maker who you might not have the greatest relationship with over the last couple years, in a committee he is running, you better make sure you actually did what you said. i think this isn't a huge deal. can you get carried away on this stump. i think the humor of it all is contentious relationship back and forth to senator mccain over the years in congress. did he think he wasn't going to get called out about this? >> and al hunt, obviously
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steven hayes up in new hampshire, we were on the panel and steven hayes said that ted cruz was hated by just about every member in the senate, both on the republican and the democratic side and steven hayes said he wasn't saying that as a negative. but this does show that he's going to have to watch his back, ted cruz, whenever he starts talking about the senate. because he's sure to have critics in both parties coming after him. >> joe, i actually know a couple who like him. it may be limited to that. john mccain is not one of them. he called him a whacko bird i think about a year ago. this was silly. but also the issue was silly. he was pandering. whatever you think ability gun rights in there country the idea of protecting them on military bases really is in the a very high priority. so i think this was a blunder by a rookie candidate. >> all right. the war of words between 2016 candidate senator rand paul and the hawk issuing of the
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republican party appears to be reaching a boil. here's what senator lindsey graham had to say about paul's world view on "morning joe" followed by paul's response to those comments and others like them from for john mccain during an interview yesterday. >> a libertarian, he said we shouldn't have troops in iraq. he agreed with obama ma. he said we don't need a no-fly zone. generally speaking he has been more wrong than right. he has an isolationist view of the world that i don't share. >> this comes from a group of people who have been wrong about every foreign policy issue over the last two decade. they supported hillary clinton's war in libya. they supported president obama's bombing of assad. i'm really the one standing up to president obama and these people are essentially the lap dogs for president obama. i think they're sensitive about that. their foreign policy is so
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disjointed confusing and chaotic that really people need to re-examine those who want to be involved in every war. >> lap dogs for president obama he thinks they're sensitive about that. that's a nice little jab. >> i think barak obama would love it if john mccain were his lap dog. he's more like his junkyard dog. i think it's interesting if rand paul, he really pulled back on some of his foreign policy views over the last year. there are people who think he lost some of the passion among those committed voters. he's got a big decision to make now whether he goes back. he is a neoisolationist. there is a strain in the republican party that really likes that and he may bring from some people. on the other hand if isis starts beheading people the climate is not very conducive to that. >> larldharold, it looks like they will be going after each other
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non-stop. we had lindsay hughes on the campaign going after rand palm. he just laughed. >> probably the real weren't out of this is hillary clinton the republicans quarrel about their world view. rand palm at some point has to layout a world view. we know what he's a opposed to. he called it lap docs president obama, it may propose what we do in the gulf in aidan with war ships or ships confronting weapons. what would he do differently in afghanistan? >> are you talking sniern. >> i'd love to hear him ar tick -- tell us how uconn tain those threats. again, mrs. clinton is the beneficiary, she is able to stand above it all. >> senator paul, by the way, is in the news for another reason this morning having been identified as one of five candidates that charles and david koch will consider supporting. they said they will consider
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putting their cash and influence behind. scott walker ted cruz jeb bush and mario rubio. any choices there you think they might go with? >> no, i think one is opened. >> i think yesterday phil opened to jeb bush. there have been concerns in the bush faction that the koch brothers had no use for jeb. he was a status big government republican, but charles specifically came out go ahead saying he was opened to jeb. >> electability being the primary, at least what we order from their network. i feeled be for the other 14 or 15 candidates. >> there's a lot of them. >> i think the biggest audition process or whatever you call it, it's not necessarily what charles koch do their network in total could back a number of willing candidates. their willingness makes this so much money, more than that, it's so much grass roots power they bring to the table.
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>> joe, it troubling the headlines say the koch brothers will decide the direction, be it republican or democratic? >> $300 million. >> is that troubling me? the thing is, the koch brothers don't go to mount olympus say we shall declare. they have hundreds of people a part of this network. that's one of the reasons jeb is getting a second look. there are a lot of people in that network, say, let's take a look at jeb. >> i will say this i think charles koch and david koch get more respect in 2015 because of what they did in 2014. because in 2012 they listened to the republican party and wasted a lot of their.. so they said forgot this we're going to take this into their own hands. they did a lot better than
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anybody else. people are listening to them. they're not the king makers. they have a very, very big network and i think a lot of people talk to each other. coming up this morning, congressman joe ryan will join us. also white house director jen psaki and chris matthews and later country music star tim mcgraw. plus forget about hillary clinton, rand paul and mario rubio. how you can cast your vote for -- >> "the chew"bacca and hasn'ts solo 2016. >> cluebacca and hasn'ts solo. thank you very much for telling me. >> here's bill kierans with a check of the forecast. >> happy earth day, guys. >> they will be doing it by the river later today. >> good morning, everyone. severe weather will be in the cards. tornadoes possible. >> that will be the big story this afternoon. three days of a severe outbreak. all of it is out in tornadoally
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oklahoma, texas already this morning strong storms out there to the west side of oklahoma city. driving out on 40 this storm could get some very large hail with it. you will be spared the worst of it, but you will get heavy rain during your morning commute. this is an all day event. we will also see a few strong storms, d.c., philadelphia, baltimore, new york city this area of yellow and orange that's the enhanced risk about 3 million people t. dallas-fort worth metroplex to the side of that all eyes on that a few tornadoes in that region. tomorrow the same region of additional severe storms. of course, it's exactly where they will. we leave you with a nice shot this morning. a gorgeous sunrise, we just saw the chance of storms this afternoon. bring your umbrellas d.c. to new york. you are watching "morning joe."
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a gorgeous peaceful morning in boston at 23 past the hour. well come back to "morning joe." it took more than five months, but it appears the senate will finally vote on lorretta lynch's nomination to replace eric holder as attorney general. lynch is -- the vote is scheduled to happen tomorrow. if confirmed she will become the nation's first black female attorney general. the break through comes after lawmakers reached a compromise over language in a human trafficking bill. democrats filibuster the bill because it contained you a borgs limitations. they said lynch's vote would only come after the delay. mcconnell says he is pleased with the outcome. >> yeah i'm happy with it. i'm happy with where we are.
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we node to finish the trafficking bill. it was an important bill. it was hung up on an issue that everybody understood initially. you followed all this for an endless period of time. i said from the beginning to the end that we'd take up the attorney general nominee as soon as we finish -- >> be very careful that you don't destroy this human trafficking legislation that is so important. my centers are not going to sit back with shrinking violence and let this stuff go forward without responding in a fashion that will also cause some difficult votes for my republican colleagues. so let's get out get rid of this quickly. let's get lorretta lynch confirmed quickly and move on to other matters. >> it should go through. at least five republicans are expected to vote in favor of lynch lynch. julie pace, is this the longest
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time, though? >> this is. and the white house went through a couple of different phases on this. for a little while. they thought delaying lynch simply made republicans look bad. they were able to sit being on it. over time, though this became deeply frustrating to them. they felt like republicans had complained so long about eric holder, yet by delaying lynch's nomination, they were keeping holder on the job longer. they feel she is qualified. there are politicians that came out and said enough is enough. she will get some support from a handful of republicans and should get through relatively easy, but this has been deeply frustrating to the white house. >> it's unbelievable. go ahead willie. >> i said it yesterday, imagine you are sitting at home watching this, you are an american you are trying to figure whether or not she is being confirmed. you are hearing about sex trafficking bills and abortion and you wonder whether or not on
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earth whether she becomes the next attorney general of the united states. if you go back and read from late last year four republicans praising lorretta lynch time and time for her resume. >> she is popular with many republicans. >> her credentials, nobody has a problem with them. she was the u.s. attorney for a long period of time. in the obama administration, there are issues you can have problems with, whether it's immigration or some of the cases she did take in general people are for it. i think that's why this has been as julie said so frustrated for the white house, also so confusing to watch from outside. they're a major issue sure hold it up 150 days, without one, what's the rationale other than mitch mcconnell figuring out how to get through a bill they want to get through. >> president obama is trying to get support for his trans-pacific partnership. it it would create the pacific
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rim that many democrats are deeply skeptical especially in the wake of na nta. senator elizabeth warren warned against what she says is a secretive deal, saying it will impact domestic jobs, help the rich get richer and she is in the not chlt /* /* -- is not alone. >> i have never ever in my 33 years in congress ever supported a trade. it puts us as a disadvantage. so the answer is not only no but hell. i will not be the doing a single handed trying to defeat it. i told everybody how i feel. that's the way it is. >> but president obama in an exclusive interview with chris matthews maintained the deal is a must for international trained has to be done in broad daylight. >> they're throwing the kitchen sink at this trade agreement which will involve 11 nation's and ourselves on the pacific
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rim. why are they saying these things? >> i guess they don't want it to happen and i love elizabeth. we're allies on a whole host of issues, but she's wrong on this. now, understandably, folks in labor and some progressives are suspicious generally because of the experiences they saw in the past. i understand the anxieties that people feel and some of that has to do with globalization. a lot more of it actually has to do with autopation and just shifts in the economy away from manufacturing towards services. we're not going to be able to compete for low wage manufacturing jobs anymore. >> that ship has sailed. what we can do is compete for the high end, where we're adding value. >> harold, democrats have got to figure this out. trade has always been difficult for them. it looks like it's difficult again. a lot of drts going against the president. >> some of the concerns raised by elizabeth warren and others
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in the party are legitimate concerns. they have been answered. it's important to differentiate between two things, one trade and trade agreements. we have not had a trade agreement with china or india in years. in terms of income and trade volume, it's grown nine of ten fold over the last years. the concerns raids by some democrats in labor and environmental protection, this is the strongest packet we have seen in any trade bill, number one. number two some people are concerned somehow we will allow currency manipulation. >> that is not the case f. that were the case, these countries would have every right to be 81 set for us about the bond buying program in 2009, which allow us to revive our economy and spending. the bank of japan is not doing things for tear economy. i hope the president say stays where he is. i hope those opposed to this deal can be honest about the
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kind of things in this deal. it's actual lay good deal. >> you think democrats really need to get on board and support this bill? >> i think fluff of them should. >> you would? >> number one, they have 90 days to review it. if these things the without promise are in the pack, they should vote it down. this is a good trade agreement ever negotiated. >> hillary clinton says the economy is a top priority for her presidential campaign and insists she has always been a populist. plus, who the national journal says is marco rubio's biggest threat in 2016. a hint, it's not jeb bush. we'll be right back. ideas come into this world ugly and messy. they are the natural born enemy of the way things are. yes, ideas are scary and messy
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we also have to get unaccountable money out of our political system. that's been made really difficult because of recent supreme court decisions. a president can appoint different justices. obviously, that's a part of the job. but it may take a constitutional amendment to once and for all say no unaccountable corporate billionaire money flowing into our political system. we need to get back to one person, one vote and try to
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physical out how best to manage that in the future. >> that was hillary clinton yesterday. >> again. >> again talking about a need to overhaul campaign finance. to get big money out. you are kind of shaking your head. >> i'm forclintonmrs. clinton. i don't think that's an issue on the mind of voters. the clinton campaign offered they will raise multiple billions of dollars to compete against the koches and others. i understand the issue here t. real issue is how do you get to wages? i don't think this issue is the real issue. i think it rings hollow frankly in the minds of voters. >> it's certainly not a winning issue if you are going around bragging that you are going to be raising over $2 billion raising more than anybody else. i don't even know why she tries to take home that attack. it looks silly. >> i disagree with harold. christian, we have a corrupt system should be an issue.
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we have money that will produce huge scandals this year. having said that i don't think it resonates a lot. the problem here, i don't disagree with anything she said. her problem however is she is going to be taking money from lobbyists. barak obama ruled that out last time. so she's really rolling back some of the protections at least that obama had last i'm in. so i think it makes it harder for her to criticize. >> al don't get me wrong, i wish we had a republican system, in new hampshire and iowa and tennessee, people are more concerned about their wages going up. i don't agree with that to your last point president obama the president in a general election, he went on and raised money outside of the system. so there are a lot of dirty hands in this thing. >> if barak obama in 2008 promises to take public financing to limit the amount of money that came in to raise a little bit more. he went back on his promise and blew the entire system up. raised over a billion dollars
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and started the arms race. >> who was she sitting with? were they deeply interested in this topic? i'm serious. you also said, you said, harold, i didn't, that this does not seem like kind of a topic -- >> it doesn't resonate. if it resonated with voters then barak obama would have never gotten elected because the guy broke his promise to the american people and then like i said it changed how much money was coming into the presidential politics forever. >> can i weigh in? >> yeah. i think you are absolutely right. but i remember, you were still probably a fraternity boy in alabama, but i remember 1980 the ronald reagan, it was the first campaign that was publicly financed ronald reagan ran a whole lot of conservative issues to protect business and the like. no one, no one said in 1981 he was paying off campaign contributors. the debate was over the issues. it really was quite healthy and i think going to harold's point,
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i think that's why it's not whoever wins, there are going to be a whole slew of stories, who they are paying off next time. that's bad for the system. >> just a correction here for the second time in several weeks, i was not in a fraternity. i am not al i know this might shock you. i am generally not a joiner. never have been. >> a little bit different. >> you would not expect me at 2:00 in the morning to be lined up against the wall. no it does not work for me. >> the "new york times," this campaign casts hillary clinton as the populist. it insists she has always been. nothing stings members of clinton's inner circle than the suggestion their candidate is late to these issues. mrs. clinton was the original elizabeth warren her advisers say, a populist fighter who for decades has been an advocate for family and children. advisers have lists at the ready
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outlining mrs. clinton's calls as early as 2007 to eliminate the carried interest loophole roll back the bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy. but that was then and there is now. when everything mrs. clinton does will be viewed through the lens of a party under the influence of miss warren and her blistering critique of the financial sector. anybody? >> phil, what has she said on the campaign trail? i haven't heard anything. >> i would love to hear her say any of those things. >> a as i have been saying last year she went to gold man sax got paid in a speech and was talking about a great job. >> i like they have lists at the ready of her accomplishments and past statements. it's a great story from amy. look, on the policy side of things, they are fought wrong. if you track back, particularly how she was viewed in the clinton administration she was never viewed as being one tied
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to the corporate interests. shelves never viewed as the one closest to the center in the family or the administration in general. i think the difficulty is you look at her career over the last 12-to-16, 15 years and it's senators from new york paid speeches things of that nature tied closely to corporate interests. that's how she is viewed now. it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with her specific policies, that's how she is viewed. when you put that up what elizabeth warren said all over the place for the last couple of years, thoughts how the comparison is going to play out, much to their frustration. >> julia you listen to hillary clinton's advisers, they will tell you, hillary clinton was an elz beth warren that, in fact as it's listed in the piece, she called for a rollback of the tax cuts and the rest of it. still, it is a tough sell for hillary clinton to be the one as she says in the piece. the 1, must be toppled. >> it is. it is true that hillary clinton
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has worked on issues related to families, to children and women since the start of her career. i think what the clinton campaign has to deal with, though is that things she was saying when she ran for president in 2008 were before the financial crisis happened. were before elizabeth warren and this wing of the party gained so much power. the atmosphere has changed on a lot of these issues after the american people saw what was happening with the banks and saw a lot of the activity that the government did to prop up the banks and that's the source of this frustration. and we haven't really heard hillary clinton talk about that in this politico context as a candidate. how she shapes that message i think will really judge whether he is accepted by the progressive wing of the party. >> i don't think anyone, i would love to hear all that. >> it is unfair all this criticism of her. i love to defend her in the next segment. >> whatever, you just feel like you have to. >> say someone is saying that,
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it's unfair. i'll wait. >> you know what i mean her friends, i think they are in such a bubble. they are in such a bubble she is worth $100 million and she thinks she's poor. there is a reason why, the people she hangs out with are multi-millionnaires. >> top of the hour, we will take this on. >> up next. >> are you not. harold good-bye. seeing american military policy up close from the cockpit in the air force to a seat on capitol hill the pittsburgh's new standoff with iran. "morning joe" is back in a moment.
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kills the germs. fights the pain. l in michelle. >> mr. president we are all watching what's going on with the navy. it seems like the old iranian missile crisis.
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what i signal are you sending to the iranians? >> we have been actually straight forward to them. right now their ships are in international waters. there is a reason why we keep some of our ships in the persian gulf region, that is to maintain free navigation. what we have said to them is, is that if there are weapons delivered to factions within yemen, that could threaten and a half gax that's a problem. and -- threaten navigation, that's a problem. >> that was president obama warning tehran the u.s. will do whatever is necessary to prevent iranian weapons from reaching the rebels. it comes as shiite rebels linked to iran have taken control of a military brigade if central yemen. joining us from capitol hill, a current member of the air national guard republican congressman adam kinsinger of illinois. good to have you on board. >> congressman, how concerned
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are you with this latest development? >> look. everything is concerning in yemen. this is what we have seen in iran and their destablization of the middle east. yemen, the legitimate government in yemen. i was in yes, ma'am an year-and-a-half ago. we were pretty optimistic about our ability to root out al qaeda to work with the yemenese government. when the government was toppled for all intents and purposes, you now have the wild west there. have you what you have in syria. you have what you had in afghanistan pre-9/11. which is an opportunity for a bacteria like al qaeda to move into yemen and basically establish themselves and we've seen that. so this destablization of yes, ma'am isn't very concerning not just for iranian influence but because of the presence of al qaeda and extremists in that area. so. >> can you explain to americans who wake up day in day out hear about problems in syria and problems in iraq and problems with isis and i can go down the list can you explain why terror
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experts are particularly concerned about unrest in yemen? >> yeah, look, yes, ma'am isn't basically right next to obviously saudi arabia. its right next to a lot of our allies in the arabian peninsula. yemen has been a problem for a long time. instable there can spill out all across the region first off, think about the uss cole bombing, all the terrorist attacks in that region. butly the about saudi arabia. if this spills into saudi arabia i had somebody once describe to me that saudi arabia is almost too big to fail. because you think about the holly siteholy sites that are there. the government can walk into the holy sites, you would have a sunni-shiite conflict bigger than one can imagine. it's very scary. >> experts believe that al qaeda in yes, ma'am isn't focused on causing great damage to the united states and kim as many americans as they can and i think they basically have the
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best inside track to do that. >> yeah. and they've done it. you look at isis isis' job is to establish a caliphate. the sole job is to attack americans, western allies and to kill innocent people. both are absolutely terrible organizations. this one is especially viral. >> al hunt is with us. al. >> i think the congressman is absolutely right. you not only have al qaeda on the financial and isis, you also have the iranian backed houthi s who also are not exactly a benign force. so it is just terribly important and it's a really dangerous place. >> all right. congressman adam kinzining ger. thank you for being on the show. >> it broke barriers for female soldiers ahead on ""morning joe."
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>> airstrikes have ended. peace is a long way off. >> they deny the ships in the gulf in aidand are delivering weapons. >> the uss aircraft theodore roosevelt is adding more ships. >> there is a reason why we keep some of our ships in the persian gulf region to maintain free navigation. >> growing protests on the streets of baltimore.
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>> six officers have been suspended and there is late word the feds are now getting involved in the case. >> i look at the information. i have a lots of concerns of what happened. >> are you what some people say you are to sort of a heat seeking missile and the heat is rand paul? >> no. >> and these people are essentially the lap dogs for president obama and i think they're sensitive about that. >> i'll play nice if they'll play nice. >> the real split screen of the day was fought between clinton appearances rather between them and the anti--clinton cot annual industry revving up once again. >> i think it's a political put-up job. i can smell eight long way away. >> we are not big in quitting in my family. you may notice that. >> that's what i want to know. okay. >> welcome back to "morning joe." we have phil mating li and al with us. cnbc's chris hardball matthews.
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mica, they just start talking. >> we were talking. >> it's an ongoing process. >> it is. we need to talk about what we were talking about for just a moment. >>. no. >> okay. fine. we will start this hour him we will get to your interview with president obama in just a second. i want to start in new hampshire, where hillary clinton has wrapped up her second swing of her 2016 presidential campaign as aides brief democratic lawmakers on capitol hill, clinton met with voters in new hampshire for the second straight day. she tried to walk a fine line praising president obama's handling of the economy but distancing herself from the transpacific partnership agreement. clinton, who reportedly is seeking $100 million in campaign funds for a democratic primary also repeated her call for an overhaul of campaign finance rules. >> we need to fix our dysfunctional political system and get unaccountable money out of it once and for all eastern if that takes a constitutional
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amendment. we also have to get unaccountable money out of our political system. that's been made really difficult because of recent supreme court decisions. a president can appoint different justices, obviously that's a part of the job, but it may take a constitutional amendment to once and for all say no unaccountable corporate billionaire money flowing into our political system. we need to get back to one person, one vote and try to figure out how best to manage that from the future. >> so that was iowa. and then that was -- >> you are slipped. i can tell you slipped up. chris, we need to analyze mica, you and me right here. >> okay. >> so mica is a democrat who has voted democratic every four years of her life. >> consistent. >> would never consider voting
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republican. she never would, but every time she sees hillary clinton, a woman, stop, who she wants to see elected president of the united states. >> i do. >> in these early sort of stiff dunder mifflin-typesets. she gets really upset. >> it's bad staging. >> she thinks she's too stiff and calculated. are other dollars thinking that way? >> all those observations sound right to me. i think that hillary clinton has to get back in the game. it's a while. eighth slow start. it shouldn't matter two weeks from now. no harm is done by stiff or growing pains getting into this thing. learning the vocabulary you speak every day and i speak every night takes a while to get into. we were in a conversation at the beginning of this show. you join the conversation. she's got to get into it. she's not an instantaneous pow like her husband. >> she's not like bill. >> bill is a pow. he's always ready to walk into a
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chip ought le and talk to everybody in the room. not everybody does that. >> people closest to jeb bush saying jeb's problem because he seems kind of like the stiff one when all these younger guys are flying around him. jeb has been out of the game a long time. he has been making money, doing all of these other things. now he's back and it's almost like he's in the same position as hillary is on the other side. >> i think w. we did a piece eight years ago where john kerry walks into a diner and grabs some poor woman who has an hour off from work, she's reading a novel. trying to get away from her job. he comes in and gives her a five-point plan for reconstruction of america. meanwhile -- >> oh good. >> h.w. sees a young cup welthree kids, one boy, two girls. he says what's it like being the only dude with the sisters, all those sisters around you? instantaneous connection. some people can do it. you can probably do it. >> hillary clinton can do it.
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>> well, when she's with somebody she trusts. i think i've seen the hillary that everybody likes, who knows her. which is den take this the wrong way, girlish, fun, upbeat, exuberant, totally unafraid of commentary. then there is the one in public who is aware her worst enemies are watching her, ready to get a jump on her. >> we had her on the show. we had her in stitches. we had a great time. >> how many stitches? just kidding. >> something has happened where i guess, you are right, it's no harm. >> maybe it's years of being hit. it's a combination. but it's what it is. she is what we are all describing. >> is al still? al, here's the thing though we are sitting here analyzing hillary. shelves ridiculed last week, high highland said for this very stiff and awkward coming out. this week she's looking stiff and awkward. but really, what does it matter?
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nobody is rung against her to speak of. so why doesn't she do this for another two, three, four, five, six months and have the press going crazy while she gets one photo op after another photo op? as phil was saying, that's all she wants, her with real people. every day people and there is no harm to it no need to swing for the fences when you are kind of out on the baseball field just playing by yourself. >> joe, i think you are right. i think she will. let me go to the point of being rusty. yeah, bill clinton is fabulous. let's think about bill clinton in '07 and '08. he hadn't done it in ten years. he was rusty. the best political performer of our lifetime suffers when he has been out of practice. it will take her a while. she has the lucksy, as you say she is not going to be tested by any of those democrats. i will tell you one mistake she is making, maybe there are others, i think she's making a
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mistake on trade. i think she'd be better off doing her semi sister soldier moment and saying, sorry, this is an issue. we had environmental protection, decent labor procedure, currency is a totally false issue and actually make labor a little mad. it might help bernie sanders and martin o'malley get 30 rather than 25%. i think it's a risk worth taking. >> that would be a bold move. it would distinguish her from other democrats, running scared. afraid of labor. look at chuck schumer, i know he has an acquired taste. i've acquired it. it takes a while. there is a guy on iran and trade the party is scrambling. it's every man for himself. the press can't control them right now. it's worse when it's playing pressure politic playing israel labor the button pushing. hillary is joining in that. al is right, why is she joining in the button pushing now when she can lead? >> because she's in a position
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that mitt romney was in in 2012. it always irritated me that mitt romney would never have those sister soldier moment, somebody would come out and say something extraordinarily offensive about the president. i said if you want to be leader of party, you have to show leadership. call those people out. he couldn't because his conservative credentials were questioned. so he froze. hillary is in the position where all the progressives are saying she's really too conservatives, she's a ne o-con. >> the parties are most are concerned. i said in a recent poll only a third of democrats call themselves liberals or progressives. this idea you have to appeal to the left is the only way to the nomination is a mistake. she has the freedom as you pointed out to lead the party. she can say, you know what trade's good. we were taught nit school t. best schools say trade works
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since the time we were in grade schools. who says it's good? labor is in a very scared position now. a million-and-a-half manufacturing jobs are organized. i mean the whom country of 142 million jobs there is like a million-and-a-half organized labor manufacturing jobs. you got the cw. why are all those unions against trade? labor is on its back foot because of losing card check which is a bad move to begin with. they're scared and angry as hell. i think she is playing to that. >> chris, the implicit pitch for hillary clinton from her out on the stump. also on background and newspaper articles and all the vest she is the original elizabeth warren. there is not new clothes for her that she has to come out and say oh, i'm a populist she actually has been from the beginning they say. is that a tough sell for her given where she is? >> clinton has won and they're popular today because of their astute moderation. they were for people who work hard and play by the rule. there is a brilliant when
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statement. it's not the criminal on the street corner, the guy or woman that gets to work in the morning play by the rules. shelves against abortion, i'm for making it safe, legal and rare to the liberal catholics. they were careful in drawing a line on the center left. right. why is she running off and pretending she's somebody else? she's not elizabeth, ii, she's hillary clinton. they're moderate democrats. that's why she will get a lot of women who vote for her who are moderate republicans. why would a moderate woman vote for a lefty? i think define the leadership of the party at its best. don't run off to all the pressure groups. don't push the button on israel. stop pushing the dam buttons like walter mon dame. this is the kind of party that nobody likes anymore. it never adds up to 50%. you take all the democratic pressure groups, it comes in about 44 45. they lose the elections every
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time. joe you know this, help me here. you know the republicans beat the heck out of the democrats. >> by the way you can say the same thing about the republican party. i do all the time. you get to 42 43 44 45%. if you play all the interest groups, it's those 10% you have to influence. that's one of the things al the republican was so great after the 2012 elections saying we have learned to become quite adept at speaking to ourselves. we are great converting our own. we have just not so good at getting others who wouldn't naturally vote for us on our side. that's why we keep losing elections. you can say that about both parties. >> i know you can. let me disagree on clinton. i do agree on trade. if you go back to 2008, your friend paul krugman embraced hillary clinton because she went to the left of barak obama on wall street legislation, on health care. making a mistake on trade she's
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not running as elizabeth warren. she's a mini-liz, she is in the saying she is going to break up the banks. i think to call this an ideological issue i think is an exaggeration. we talked earlier joe, about there is a populist streak out there for republicans and democrats. she's tapping into some of that. i don't think those positions are inconsistent. >> so are you saying paul krugman was my friend my buddy is is that what you are saying? >> i saw your lovely chat on charlie rose. >> he stopped being my friend after that. after i out debated him. >> stop you might have done a little better than he did. >> he said it was his cleveland moment. >> the first point which is the moment, you distinguish yourself in politics when you distinguish yourself. when you honestly do say something that doesn't fit with the usual rap. not breaking with interest groups. she sounds more like walter mon dale. not to knock walter mon dale.
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somebody said why don't you fight the union with something. he says why should i argue with my friend? it's the auto default mode. >> we have part of your interview with president obama who says he disagrees with elizabeth warren on trade. take a listen. >> they're throwing the kitchen sink at this trade agreement which will involve 11 nations and ourselves on the pacific rim. why are they saying these things? >> i guess they don't want it to happen and i love elizabeth. we are allies on a whole host of issues, but she's wrong on this. now, understandably folks in labor and some progressives are suspicious generally because of the experiences they saw in the past. i understand the anxieties that people feel and some of that has to do with globalization. a lot more of it actually has to do with automation and just shifts in the economy away from manufacturing towards services. we're not going to be able to compete for low wage
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manufacturing jobs any more. >> that ship has sailed. what we can do is compete for the high end, where we're adding value. >> and to what do you say, chris matthews to elizabeth warren's point this feeds into the problem she is fighting against? >> you know there is a reality to the lol lowed out be ig cities i grew up in philadelphia and certainly in youngstown, erie everything else michigan city where there is nothing left by the diner, maybe. it used to be a block buster, not even that anymore. you got to blame somebody. trade is a good target. it's a lot of thing. there is no job for the kid out of high school like in the '50s. >> there is not. >> no starter job for the kid who house gets in trouble. the president says those jobs are going away because of automation. it's a reality of the world we live in. we have to find new positive jobs. you can't sell that to sherrod brown, though, or robert casey.
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fairfax they're going to boy it. silicon valley they will buy it. what surprised me was that labor union deal. new york city is a financial center for trading. but i guess schumer is thinking of that mid-west of the democratic caucus because the democratic party lost the rocky mountains, has lost the south probably, for a long number of generations all they have is the northeast and mid-west. upstate new york i look and i say, this is going to be top selling free trade in the democratic party. the south is always free trade. the civil war was about that. to a large extent. >> so it's going to be fascinating. let's talk a little about republican politics. you had john mccain and ted cruz going after each other yesterday. we had lindsey graham on this show yesterday morning saying he was more comfortable with barak obama than hillary clinton's policies than rand palm. rand palm i don't think le took too kindly to that. let's show those clips the being
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and forth between rand paul and lindsey graham. >> rand's a libertarian. he has a view of the world i don't share. >> yeah. >> he said we shouldn't have any troops in iraq. he agreed with obama. that was a disaster. when there was a chance to do something constructive about syria with the no-fly zone, he said, we don't need one. generally speaking, he's been more wrong than right. has an isolationist view of the world i don't share. >> there comes from a group of people who have been wrong about every foreignpolicy issue in the last decade. they supported president obama's bombing of assad. i'm the one standing up to president obama. these people are essentially the lap dogs for president obama. i think they're sensitive about that. their foreign policy is so disjointed confusing and chaotic that really people need to re-examine those who want to be involved in every whatter. >> chris matthews. >> i tell you one thing, i saw paul two weeks ago, it must have
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lit up the charts here when i saw rand paul beating hillary clinton in pennsylvania. there is a regular state who know their kids, they used to call them the republican, they're the ones whose kids will often fight. even if they're in the military, so i got the feeling that republican party is not a hawkish party. the leadership eadvantage gelvangelicals. they're hawks. i don't think the average republican voter is a hawk. >> not anymore. >> i think they're war wary as well. he might just pull this off. >> i still think there is a big disconnect between the republicanthe republicans in washington, d.c. and everywhere you go, you start talking about foreign entanglements. they don't want any part of it. >> in massachusetts they say the shape of the field determines the winner. if you have four or five people
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who is the biggest hawk? >> i'm crazy i'm insane i want to fight everybody, libya syria, i want to fight them all. along comes this soft spoken guy the youngest. enough of this crap. they knight might be fighting on who is the biggest hawk. remember jimmy carter, the shape of the field wins. you never know in fact, i'd like that to happen. maybe it's wishful thinking. >> exactly. are you done? >> never. >> he's never done. we will be watching hardball on msnbc. still ahead on "morning joe," there are more questions an answers about a man who died in police custody in baltimore. we will be going live to baltimore as the feds step in. >> we will go live to pentagon in a looming show down at sea between the u.s. and iran. the warning president obama is making to tehran. you are watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. woman: it's been a journey to get where i am. and i didn't get here alone.
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21 past the hour. we want to go to baltimore now where the justice department has launched a civil rights investigation into the death of 25-year-old freddie gray. hundreds marched in west baltimore yesterday, demanding for justice for the man who died from a spinal chorld injury while in police us the stowed. nbc news correspondent joins us tell us lou the city is responding. i spent some time there. i know a little about the history and the crime rate the murder rate, the struggles they've had. it has not been an easy time for cops or the community and i'm sure this is not helping. >> reporter: no, i think that's absolutely right. i think you talk to anybody in this community. you talk to the police the mayor, the people. they will tell you that the relationship with the police and the african-american community in particular especially in some of the high crime areas that have really struggled that that
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relationship is fractured and may be completely broken. it is very, very, very tense. there is very little trust right now between the police and the people in those communities and so now you've got this investigation into how freddie gray had his spinal chord nearly skefred and the police are investigating themself s and the people in west baltimore don't trust the police. now for the third night in a row they have been taking to the streets and protesting. they are demanding answers, they want accountability. they have been marching from the intersection where freddie gray was injured down to the police station in west baltimore. i was there last night. you had probably a thousand people or so. these are family, many holding their children's hands saying we den want this to happen to our children and one woman said it did happen to my child. my child they said, she said rather, was shot by police. i don't want it to happen to anybody else. so you know, regardless of what
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all of the circumstances are, surrounding each one of these individual incidents, the trouble, it creates this environment in which there is really very little trust anymore. so last night this was a peaceful demonstration, they were certainly demanding accountability. demanding answers, they faced off against police, nobody was tense, the police were not tense, there were no batons out or anything like that, in fact, a police commissioner said late last night he understands these concerns on the part of the community and if it were his child or his family, he'd also want answers. so now the justice department has started an investigation. they're going to be doing this as the police investigate themselves. as for that police investigation, they plan to turn over the results of their investigation to the prosecutor by the end of next week. i will tell you candidly, i think even the prosecutor's office is doubtful about whether the police can, in fact, do a good thorough investigation of itself. but the mayor and police commissioner are promising exactly that. guys, back to you. >> tom it's willie.
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as you indicated. it seems to most of us. the question is what happened in that van after he is placed inside? we don't know. we can't see. you talked about yesterday a camera in the back that doesn't record. we do know, though, there was another man detained in that same van who will be a valuable witness in all this. >> reporter: well, i'm not sure how valuable. by one account i have, the two individual in the back of the van can't see each other. so they're separate bid some sort of a divider. so listen that's all a part of this as well. i got to tell you, willie, there is a big difference of opinion as to where this injury occurred. did it occur at the moment of arrest or in the van and was he thrashing about inside the van? you may recall the driver stopped the van because he said that mr. dprai was becoming irate. >> was he being irate because he couldn't breathe, because he was already starting to go limp? we don't know the answers to all. that we know he repeatedly asked
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for medical help and an inhaler. yet it took them nearly 40 minutes before they called paramedics. there are a lot of loose ends here. already the police commissioner has changed the way his officers are supposed to respond when somebody in custody has asked for medical help. >> tom thanks, so much. we will check back from with you tomorrow morning as well. in yemen shiite rebels linked to iran have reportedly taken control of a military brigade if central yemen. it comes one day after saudi arabia says it is scaling back airstrikes and switching to a more limited military effort. let's bring in nbc news pentagon correspondent jim miklazewski. what's the latest this morning? >> reporter: the late set the u.s. naefd and iranian convoy are still on a standoff off the coast of yemen. u.s. warships and u.s. warplanes in the sky are still tracking that convoy of five guided missile cruisers and two
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surface, two cargo ships that are believed to be carrying heavy weapons intended for those iranian-backed houthi rebels you just talked ability. so far that convoy is simply clucking along at about 5 knots just outside the territorial waters of yemen. it has made no attempt so far to run a blockade made up of egyptian and saudi arabian warships. and officials here are loepping, look, they at some point they either ver to move in or simply turn around and go back to iran. the latter would be the preferable choice of course. >> mik, what's the significance of saudi arabia announcing this pull back from this air campaign inside yemen after a month? >> reporter: well, saudi arabia was under a lot of criticism world wide and including some pressure from the white house and president obama, himself. because much of their bombing campaign was simply scattered. they were going after heavy
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weapons, ballistic missiles that the houthi rebels had control of that could actually present some kind of threat to saudi arabia. but in doing so there was a lot of collateral damage. a lot of civilians, a lot of unintended targets hit. and at this point the saudis feel they have eliminated most of those heavy weapons. this does not mean by any stretch of the imagination that that fight is over. balls they will still conduct operations against those houthi rebels inside yemen. >> all right jim miklazewski, at the pentagon this morning thanks, so much. >> all right still ahead one of "time" magazine's 100 most influential people. country music star tim mcgraw grabs a seat at the table. and he will decide the country's next president, republican senator pat toomey on what he is looking for from the morning contenders.
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senator finance committee, pat toomey of pennsylvania. always glad to see you. >> good morning, joe. >> how are the phillies and pirates going to do this year? >> it could be a little rocky. but we have hope. >> it could be a little rocky in april. a bad sign. all right. let's talk. we have a couple things going on here, chris matthews another pennsylvania boy here a few minutes ago, talking about why pennsylvania and congress women and senators might have concerns about this trade deal. what about you where are you? >> look, trade is a controversial issue joe. it has been for a long time as you know but the reality is this trade agreement is going to knock down barriers to allow us to export more manufactured goods from pennsylvania. it's definitely going to increase our ability to sell agricultural products overseas. it's going to help to protect the intellectual property of some of our really terrifically dynamic companies like
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pharmaceuticals and medical device companies. i think when we take an honest look at this we will see this helps encourage economic growth in the united states, job creation in pennsylvania and the united states and importantly, joe, you know, these countries that we're dealing with they're changing, they're evolving, some are rapidly developing. they were either going to do that under the influence of the chinese who are very aggressively trying to assert themself, oral they will do us with us. i would rather we set the rules than see that ground of the chinese. >> pat, isn't is this one more step in a globalization process that has gutted manufacturing not only in pennsylvania but across america? >>. joe, in fact, as you know, the united states is still the biggest manufacturer in the world by far. now it is not as large a percentage of our total economy as it once was. that's mostly because the service sector has grown so much fakt faster. its true a smaller percentage
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works in the work farce that's because of automation. when other countries fog down their trade barriers we have opened up our markets, we welcome imports. consumers have lots of great choices. now we have an opportunity in this trade agreement to knock down some of the barriers that keep our products out. so i think it will be very constructive. >> senator toomey, willie goift, chris geist, the old manufacturing jobs are gone for good, he said i think that ship has samed were his words. if i'm sitting outside philadelphia, i don't have a job, i'm thinking through this deal, what kind of jobs will be coming back to pennsylvania and to the rest of the united states if this deal goes through? >> there are whole industries that are rapidly growing and can continue to grow. so while it may be true that some of the old heavily labor intensive manufacturing jobs are no longer with us, you look at the growth in the medical device
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industry, for instance. these are manufactured products here in the united states. we've had a trade surplus for years in medical devices. it's based on a combination of innovation. i mean the amazing things we are doing with artificial the hearts and cochlear implants and joints and all kind of devices used for surgerys and just to cope with maldis of life. i mean this is a whole sector t. life sciences are a very exciting sector and i think have a tremendous potential for growth and we will sell more products from there sector to the other countries in this trade agreement if we can get it done. >> all right. senator pat toomey. thank you so much and congressman, guess who is coming up next? >> who is that? >> a little later on. >> oopts one. >> another what? >> another republican congress paul ryan will join us in our next hour. >> thank you. all my friends. i have friends in high places. >> still ahead at this hour, the pentagon is rewriting the rules when it comes to women if combat. but female fighters have long been on the battleground.
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joining us now, senior fellow at the foreign policy on the council on foreign reels, best selling author, gayle tzemacr lemmoh. it's great to have you on this show. congratulations on the show and everything. >> thank you. >> i think a lot of people might not have known there was an all women team serving on the battlefield. >> yes, i think it was something i learned over two years, a lot of holiday and express nights reporting all around the country. i had a real privilege of meeting with some of america's most seasoned military leaders
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and meeting with these sentence who were recruited by special operations to fill a security gap, which is that male american soldiers couldn't talk to women. >> and then they needed fe pail soldiers to go out out and so-to-speak get a relationship. >> that was the purpose. they were the only ones that can go out with women. >> the head of special operations command says this is what we need. we need the make sure that male soldiers have women who can go out and talk to and access the other half of the population. >> so what was the impact of having an all me fail unit? first of all, what were the limitations? >> right. the combat ban were in place. these women were attached to special operations unit. it was a story of conviction and valor. there was an all star team of female sentence all around the army who answered this call to serve, which is fe pail soldiers become a part of history, join special operations. so they went through a selection process that was about started
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with about 200-plus people and about 55 or 60 and 20 of them went to ranger regimen to 100 hours of hell to be selected at fort bragg by special operations units. >> you focus on first lute lute ashley white. tell us her story. she was lost? >> she was a part of this all star team of women. you had one on a fourth star deployment. one a bronze valor winner, one a best west point track star and ashley white who was really the heart and soul of the team this 5' 3," kent state grow-op. incredible marriage, lived in ohio. she said what can i do to serve the country? when they said we need women out there. she said, sign me up. shelves one of those people that never needed to tell you what she can do. she showed you what she could do and was capable of.
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>> one of the things you hear on capitol hill, when it comes to women's roles in combat, it's concerned how their male colleagues will perceive them. as you were reporting this out, did you feel there was a shift at all with these women if combat? >> i think it's a question of proving themselves. every single one of these women said i want no special treatment. they were in gym three times a day. they were absolutely the most fierce the most feminine at the same time because they had to in the heat of with thele show they were women who women they were meeting. you talked to rangers. i would talk to guy was had done 12 and 13 and 14 ranger deployments. they would say, you know what, those women proved themselves. they paid the rent every night out there. they gave them a shot. they said if you can perform out here. if you can help us get home safer and more quickly, you are a part of the team. >> gosh, i'm getting pulled right in to ashley's story. and i understand we've got a movie in the making? >> yes we do. the film option is going to
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cross into reese witherspoon. >> that's incredible. the film is "ashley's war." thank you so much. >> and her background, a troubled background. >> yes. >> your troubled background. >> you worked with mark halperin. what was that about? >> i worked in the abc news political unit. i covered impeachment in 2000, 2004, back in the day when we were factions hotlines to hotels all over iowa and you know i think what we've seen throughout, right, i think there is a hunger right now for stories of character and conviction and that's what this story is. that's what i think every campaign is about. that's what i learned covering presidential campaigns at the end. it's about the american character and spirit. >> that's fantastic. all right. thank you very much. "ashley's war" read it. i will make my daughters read it. too. thank you so much. still ahead when tom colicchio
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is cooking, what is he doing? >> he is drinking everything dry. >> does he do that when we are not looking? tossing out about a quarter of the food they buy in american households. tom joins us next explaining changing that could solve some major problems. we'll be right back. we come by almost every day to deliver your mail so if you have any packages you want to return
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>> there was a study in new york. they looked at the food waste in one county t. most waste came from households, more than supermarket, and restaurants, more than farms. >> in hour households we are wasting 15 to 20% of the food we're buying. that's expensive. imagine walking out of a grocery store, four backs stoping one in the parking lot, not bothering to pick it up. that's essentially what we are doing in our homes today. >> that was a scene from the documentary 80 just eat it" a food waste story. it's airing tonight on msnbc as part of our green is universal initiative. joining us now, award winning chef and msnbc food correspondent tom colicchio. >> good morning. >> tom, this is so important. my mother will be very proud of you. because she is extremely, has
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been throughout my entire childhood, concerned about the amount of waste in this country. she doesn't want us to waste a thing. >> we are wasting a combination of stuff that's left in the field when farmers are picking. stuff that goes to the supermarket and gets thrown out because there's blemishes, a banana that has brown on it an a that will gets bruised, it gets thrown out. and we waste at home about 25% of the food we buy. >> i don't disagree that. i've seen in the a lot of households. how do you change the habits broadly in terms of the first few things that you mentioned but also n terms of the mind-sets of americans. >> i think you raise awareness. this film is great. grant and jen who made the film they decided to go phenomenon for a few months without buying food and they just recovered food. and they actually spent $200 in six months on food and the rest for their recovery. they recovered worth about
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$20,000 rtworth of food. >> where do they recover it? >> dumpsters out of supermarkets? >> they would pick food with food that was wasted. >> not food that was opened. a full dumpster of milk that wasn't pass the expiration date fruits vegetables at one point they pick up green and black chocolate. monkeypox boxes of it thrown away. >> so this is not opened? >> no. >> i do that. >> don't even start about what goes o on in my parents' h house. >> i think if you go back to parents and grandparents, two generations away that grew up in the great depression where they valued food. and after world war ii you started -- fast food became popular, food became cheap and we stopped valuing food. but what i found amazing is that you have 40% waste in the system so it's all this inefficiency and the free market hasn't come in to fix this. >> how much of this is the
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standards that have been put in place by industry? is there a way to shift that? >> a lot of it is labelling. when you look at use by dates and best buy dates. that i don't mean much. the food is still good. so if you see milk that says use by or buy by, it's still fresh. we're programmed to look at that date going" we kwnt buy it after that." so a lot of it is getting wasted because we think it's gone bad. >> is there a way to shift that? >> you raise awareness get people focused on this. we're throwing out a lot of money and so the other thing is i think that in business there's either a way to incentivize business to do the right thing or punish business not doing the right thing. i'd rather incentivize business to reclaim that food. >> i would also -- i think in our own households, there has to be a change in attitude about what has gone bad, what is really worth throwing away. i think the amount of money we spend on food we throw away and then spend again the next day. the i know households including
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mine sometimes, that just had take out all the time which is ridiculous. >> it is. ful i started doing something called fridge friday, so on friday i look at my refrigerator and -- >> what what can you make? >> soup pastas, just use it up. a lot of times you see something that looks good, you'll buy it. a head of swiss chard and you don't know what to do with it but it looks good. then it ends up in the garbage. >> what's the payoff for this? >> number one again, we need to look at the amount of food we're wasting. we need to value food. there are a lot of great organizations that are reclaiming food. we're wasting h 40% of the food we grow and yet 50 million americans struggle to feed themselves so there are great organizations like city harvest, d.c. central kitchen ben simon started the food recovery network who now is doing another project where they're taking this food and getting it back into the marketplace at a heavily reduced price. so there's a lot of solutions. >> i like it. "call to action." hashtag "no food wasted" and
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you're asking viewers to jump in. >> tune in tonight. the movie is on msnbc tonight at 10:00. it's really entertaining but it also shines a light on a very serious problem that we don't talk about. >> it's great what you're doing, especially from the platform you have. "just eat it, a food waste story" airs tonight at 10:00 p.m. on msnbc. tom colicchio, thank you very much. coming up, the head of the dea is out following a sex party scandal involving agencies. why she found herself at odds with the white house and republicans. plus, he was mocked by senator john mccain claiming the two spoke about gun rights issues. what senator ted cruz is saying about the issue this morning. and he knows a thing or two about presidential elections. we'll ask congressman paul ryan what he thinks about the republican field for 2016. much more "morning joe" when we come back.
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welcome back to "morning joe" on this earth day. unfortunately, weather will be the big news story across the country. severe storms, tornados one of those days that all of the families in oklahoma and texas prepare for. they have their emergency plans in case one of these bad storms heads your way with a possible tornado. already we have a strong complex of storms near the oklahoma city area and that's now drifting down towards lawton. so if you're driving on i-44 south of oklahoma city very strong storms with large hail possibly as large as golf ball to baseball sized hail is expected already this morning.
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we're just starting the morning. this will get more active throughout the day. the target zone for people greatest at risk is this little orange striped area here. they call that an enhanced risk of severe storms. we could see general storm there is the mid-atlantic region with lightning but it's the tornado risk we're most concerned about. it's just to the north of the dallas-fort worth metroplex area. three million people are at risk of the severe storms later this afternoon into early this evening. this looks like a three day severe weather event. this is thursday's risk area. same spots here texas into areas of louisiana. if we get reports of tornados on msnbc, we'll get you those details. now it's time for more "morning joe" top of the hour, right now.
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>> strikes may have ended but peace remains a long way off. >> they denied they're delivering weapons. >> the u.s. aircraft carrier "theodore roosevelt stalking iranian warships but at a distance. request. >> there's a reason we keep our ships in the persian gulf area. >> six officers have been suspended and there is late word the feds are now getting involved in the case. >> i looked at the information. i have a lot of concerns about what happened in the van. >> are you what some people say you are, a heat-seeking missile and the heat is rand paul? >> the these people are the lap dogs for president obama. >> the real split screen of the day was not between competing clinton appearances but rather between them and the anti-clinton cottage industry revving up once again. >> i think this is a political put up job and i can smell it a mile away. >> we're not big on quitting in
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my family. you may have noticed that. [ laughter ] welcome back to "morning joe." 8:00 on the east coast, 5:00 a.m. on the west coast. back with us on set we have harold ford, jr., and phil mattingly. in washington julie pace and al hunt. >> willie, do you think you're going to do one of those ancestors things on pbs? because we've had dr. gates here that's really cool. >> i think it's cool. >> you're kind of like you never know what you'll get. life's really, as you say, like a box of chocolates. >> oh, god okay. we need to move on. >> but you go back and you find out somebody's back there that you didn't expect right? >> and it will all be out in the open. >> it will be out in the open because this is pbs. >> what'd you get? >> it's very interesting. i've got this crazy history. but i wasn't on the tv show. but ben affleck --
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>> oh, now i know where this goes yes. >> gentle ben finds out that he has a slave -- >> slave owning ancestors. >> eight generations back. remember anderson cooper. they show anderson and he's -- breaks down and starts crying. >> it was emotional. they had a closeup >> it was very emotional. so devastating to him. it was like eight generations ago, anderson, nobody's pinning that one on you. but anyway, ben affleck is saying -- you know, and so -- is. >> did he cover it up? >> he starts scrubbing it. >> you can't scrub. >> it he starts working to scrub it starts pressuring them to not let them know one of his ancestors like 800 years ago was a slave owner. >> it came out in hacked e-mails and it was ben affleck e-mailed pbs according to these e-mails and asked they not include the part where it was revealed that however many generations ago he had a slave owning relative.
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>> and they scrubbed it. >> they did and he came out and said he regretted that yesterday. >> after it came out. >> i'm glad we settled that. thank you. there's the statement. i'm not sure why we're talking about this at the top of the hour. >> i think it's absolutely ridiculous that -- >> i think it would be fine. it's a little obsessive and self-involved. can we get to real news now? >> i think that was real news. less than a month after a justice department report that dea agents attended sex parties with prostitutes overseas, the agency -- >> wait this is the real news? what agency is this? >> i'm telling you, this is the dea. >> willie? why didn't we get involved in government service? >> you did. >> oh, that's right, my bad. >> okay -- a little too much -- >> willie why didn't you get involved in government service. go ahead. >> the down. attorney general eric holder said? his statement that drug enforcement agency leon hart has decided
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to retire. holder wrote she is a trailblazer for equality and led the distinguished agency with honor but her eight year tenure during the top job is ending. congress grilled her last week on how she handled the agency's prostitution scandal with 13 democrats and nine republicans on the house oversight committee giving her a vote of no confidence to carry out her duties and she has publicly battled the white house on liberalizing marijuana policy. opposing state moves to legalize its use and reduce penalties for its distribution even as president obama said they should be allowed to go forward. leonhart is expected to leave her post sometime next month. >> al hunt. what can you tell us? >> i think when you're anti-pot and pro-sex party you're probably in trouble if you're a government official, joe. >> okay. >> so she may have served a
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long, distinguished career. she was a trailblazer but she's out of sorts with the administration and congress. she's gotten a agency in trouble. had to go. >> why are we having all these problems? i mean, they all seem to be blowing up at the same time with dea, with secret service. just a complete lack of discipline from top to bottom. >> well, i don't know if i'd go top to bottom joe. i worry about it more if it were the pentagon and some other places i suppose. but both those agencies have been troubled. it looks like secret service may have the person to reform it and create some discipline. dea needs the same thing. >> julie, any response or take from the white house? >> well, the house had said as late as yesterday that they had questions, they were troubled by what had come out when she was testifying on the hill. and when you have the press secretary basically making that as far as they'll go in terms of standing by you, you know you're in trouble. i don't think there was any way she'd be able to stay on the job. this was not a partisan attack
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on her, this was very bipartisan. you had 13 democrats who expressed no confidence in her. with i think it was inevitable. let's go to baltimore now where the justice department has launched a civil right investigation into the death of 25-year-old freddie gray. hundreds marched in west baltimore demanding justice for the man who died from a spinal cord injury while in police custody. it remains unclear how that injury happened and an attorney for gray's family is asking why police pursued him in the first place. here's nbc's tom costello. >> reporter: the justice department has announced it's opening its own investigation into how 25-year-old freddie gray suffered a fatal spinal cord injury in police custody. on the streets of baltimore, demonstrators have been peaceful but determined to get answers. >> i have a son and i would never want this to happen to my son. >> reporter: gray family attorney billy murphy wants to know why freddie gray was being chased in the first place. >> the man was arrested for literally running while black or
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as we also jokingly on the inside say felony running. >> reporter: just over the past four years, baltimore has paid out nearly $6 million in judgments and settlements involving allegations of police brutality and civil rights violations. but the mistrust in the community goes back decades. local nbc reporter jane miller has covered the city for 30 years. >> these folks in these communities where there's higher crime, where there's depopulation and there's blight they are dealing with this kind of interaction with police all the time. >> reporter: the police commissioner was meeting with residents in this same neighborhood. >> we have a long way ahead of us. there's a lot of frustration in the community. we're aware of that. >> reporter: baltimore police say they expect to finish their investigation by next friday. the case then goes to the baltimore state's attorney who decides whether to file charges. and this city, it's had tough times. i don't think this is -- this is -- i think this is going to get worse before it gets better.
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people are going to be pretty angry. >> tough times and again the question is what happened inside that van? >> or outside. >> culturally speaking, police officers across the country who do brave and courageous work everyday, but you notice the can country is watching packive thety. how this happened is a tragedy for this family, for this community. but you have to wonder how and why the police are engaging in arrest and citation quotas where they have to stop people. maybe that needs to be analyzed right away by the police chief the country and secondly police officers, one would have to think you want to pull back a bit, particularly when some potential offender is not violent. nothing you can see he or she is done. to speak toe this issue -- if this kid to get into a police van and get out with his spine cracked -- >> he went into it with his spine cracked. i don't get that. >> we know when he got out he didn't have. >> it the scream when he was in cuffs was clearly agony. maybe in the moment you don't hear that as a cop but when
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you're watching that tape and listening, it's blood curdling. >> and they're dragging him. he can heartily walk right here. >> he was asking for an inhaler. >> he's asthmatic. he said he was asthmatic at one point. >> i don't know. easy to judge from this side of it but i want to know more about this for sure. let's move on to politics here because we have a lot going on. republican senator and presidential candidate ted cruz is taking back comments he made more than -- to more than 100 gun owners in new hampshire over the weekend. he said he was pressing senate arms services committee john mccain about eliminating a ban on soldiers carrying concealed firearms on military bases. but the arizona senator said that was news to him and mocked senator cruz for suggesting they discuss the issue. now cruz is changing his story. >> i may have misspoken in new hampshire when i said that i'd been pressing john mccain and that what i have been pressing is the arms services committee and john mccain is the new chairman of it. so i had sent a letter to the previous chairman but i had not
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communicated that to john directly, although i had at a hearing and will continue to raise it with john mccain because the committee ought to look at -- listen to the military's argument. the military brass opposes this. but i'm a big believer in defending the second amendment rights of everyone including our soldiers. >> senator john mccain later tweeted a quote "ted cruz is a friend." >> bless your heart. >> bless your heart, that's such a beautiful dress you're wearing. he says he's a valued different blah blah blah. i don't sense he's such a friend of john mccain's but ted cruz learns valuable lessons. when you're in the bigs everything you say is on mic. you can't blow it up like you did on the campaign trail in west texas. >> and when it deals directly with a lawmaker who you might not have the greatest relationship with over the last couple years in a committee he's
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running, make sure you did what you said. i think this isn't a huge deal, you can get carried away on the stump, we've seen it before when it happened but the humor of it all is his contentious relationship back and forth with senator mccain over the years. didn't he think he wasn't going to get called out about this? >> and al hunt, obviously -- steven hayes up in new hampshire, we were on a panel and steven hayes said that ted cruz was hated by just about every member in the senate, both on the republican and the democratic side and then steve hayes said he wasn't saying that as a negative. but this does show that he's going to have to watch his back. ted cruz wherever he starts talking about the senate because he's sure to have critics in both parties coming after him. >> joe i know a couple who like him. it may be limited to that. john mccain's not one of them. he called him a whacko bird about a year ago. and this was silly but also the
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issue is silly. he was pandering. whatever you think about gun rights in this country, the idea of protecting them on military bases really is not a very high priority. so i think this was a blunder by a rookie candidate. all right, the war of words between 2016 candidates senator rand paul and the hawkish wing of the republican party appears to be reaching a boil. here's what senator lindsey graham had to say about paul's world view on "morning joe" followed by paul's response to those comments and others like them from senator john mccain during an interview yesterday. >> rand's a libertarian. he has a view of the world i don't share. he said that we should haven't any troops in iraq. he agreed with obama. that was a disaster. when there was a chance to do something constructive about syria with the no-fly zone he said we don't need one. generally speaking he's been more wrong than right. he has an isolationist view of the world that i don't share.
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>> this comes from a group of people who have been wrong about every foreign policy issue over the last two decades. they supported hillary clinton's war in libya. they supported president obama's bombing of assad. i'm really the one standing up to president obama and these people are essentially the lap dogs for president obama and i think they're sensitive about that. their foreign policy is so disjointed confusing and chaotic that really people need to reexamine those who want to be involved in every war. >> al hunt, lap dogs for president obama and he thinks they're sensitive about that. that's a nice little jab. >> i think barack obama would love it if john mccain were his lap dog, joe. i think you know, he's more like his junkyard dog. i think it's going to be interesting whether rand paul keeps with this. he pulled back on some of his foreign policy views over the last year and there are people who think he lost some of the passion among those committed. if paul voters. and he's got a big decision to
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make now as to whether he goes back, and he is a neoisolationist and there's a strain in the republican party that really likes that and he may bring in some people. on the other hand, if isis starts beheading people, the climate is not conducive to that. >> harold it looks like these two will be going after each other non-stop. we asked lindsey if he was coming on the campaign to go after rand paul and he just laughed? >> probably the real winner out of this is hillary clinton because you allow republicans to quarrel about their world view. rand paul at some point has to lay out a world view. we know what he's opposed to and what he likens lindsey graham and john mccain approach, he called it lap dogs for president obama but what are his proposals? what would he do in the gulf of aden with the ships trying to deliver weapons? would he confront them? what would he do in syria? what would he do differently in afghanistan? >> you're talking about rand? >> yeah, we know he's against these guys but tell us how you contain those threats.
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but mrs. clinton is the beneficiary here. let these guys go at it and she's able to stand above it all. >> senator paul is in the news for another reason this morning, having been identified as one of five candidates that charles and david koch will consider supporting in the republican primary. the other four candidates, the billionaire brothers they they'll consider throwing their cash and influence behind scott walker, jeb bush, ted cruz and marco rubio. >> all right. >> any choice there is that you think they might go with? >> no. i think they're wide open. i heard yesterday they were even -- even open to jeb bush. there have been concerns in the bush faction that the koch brothers had no use for jeb because he was awe status big government republican. but -- >> big deal. >> charles specifically came out yesterday saying he was open to jeb. >> electability being one of the primary reasons. i feel bad for the 14 or 15 other candidates that didn't even make the initial --
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>> there's a lot of them. >> the bigger issue here as they go through the audition process or whatever you want to call it. it's not what charles and david koch decide to do. it's how they direct their network. their willingness to get behind anybody makes this so important. it's so much money and more than that, even, it's so much grass-roots power they bring to the table. still ahead on "morning joe," amazon may not be the only company to make its deliveries by drone. the household name that may be following its lead. up next, he may be the most influential republican not in the race for president. congressman paul ryan joins us live from capitol hill. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] who are we? we are the thinkers. the job jugglers. the up all-nighters. and the ones who turn ideas into action. we've made our passions our life's work. we strive for the moments where we can say, "i did it!" ♪ ♪ we are entrepreneurs who started it all... with a signature. legalzoom has helped start over 1 million businesses, turning dreamers
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i agree with every word he said in the speech with respect to trade and asia and getting in there and helping write the rules instead of china writing the rules. the president is in the middle of negotiating a trade agreement with asian nations representing h 40% of global gdp. this means more jobs for america, more eximportants for us, this is something we have to get on top of and i agree with him on that. >> that was congressman paul ryan on "morning joe" following president obama's state of the union address in january and the chairman of the house ways and means committee joins us now. also with us from nashville pulitzer prize winning historian john meacham and national political correspondent for bloomberg politics phil mattingly is still with us at the table. >> paul, so good to see you. you've co-authored a piece in the "wall street journal" with ted cruz on supporting this trade deal. why do you support it? >> because it means more jobs. we need to open up exports for our markets, for our businesses for our workers so that we can
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have more jobs. joe, 95% of the world's consumers don't live in america, they live in other countries and if we want to have more higher-paying jobs we need to make and grow thicks in america and send them overseas. we have to open these markets. >> these trade agreements have the potential of giving us access to a billion new customers. one in five jobs are tied to trade already and these jobs pay more. we want more. >> how is it going to create jobs here in america? because there are some democrats even who are concerned that it does the opposite. >> well, right now if you want to snell a lot of other countries, in many cases you have to manufacture in those countries to penetrate those markets. we want to eliminate the trade barriers so we can make things in america and send them overseas by having lower trade barriers. mika, we already give these countries good access to our markets. we want fire access, equal access to their markets. that's what's really important here. the other thing, mika is if you're standing still on trade you're basically falling behind
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because all these other countries regoing around the world getting better agreements for their countries and their markets and they're winning and we're losing. there have been 48 trade agreements in asia alone we've been a part of two of them so our ability to export has gone down 42%. so it's important we get on top of this. it means higher wages more jobs and being able to keep our manufacturing here in america so we can send things overseas. >> chairman ryan, phil mattingly here. you've said since the beginning of congress that president obama would need to bring democrats on board for this to move forward. there's obviously a lot of skepticism. is there a point where you can move forward even if he can't bring a large number of democrats or any number of democrats aboard? >> he's going to have to bring democrats. this must be bipartisan for it to be successful. and look if you don't have trade promotion authority you won't get the best trade agreements you can get. that's why passing this trade promotion short so important.
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it puts in place a process to bring bills to the floor to get good trade agreements and it brings account eblt and transparency to the system. so being i have trade promotion authority we are addressing the legitimate concerns people have had with past trade agreements and we think that will get us more democrat support, more bipartisan support. we negotiated those with ron widen, the lead democrat in the senate finance committee so this bill, the trade promotion authority bill we're working on, that's bipartisan and that's meant to put this on a bipartisan footing so we can have bipartisan trade agreements because we think it's good for all americans, good for american workers. the last point i would make is you know the rules of the road in the global economy are being written right now. the question is who will write them? will it be america and our allies writing the rules for our benefit or china writing the rules of the global economy for china's benefit which i don't think is good for american workers and i think that appeals to both republicans and democrats. >> so our good friend lindsey graham was on the show yesterday: and lindsey always
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lights it up wherever he goes. we've known that are that for 20 years now. >> yes he does. >> and yesterday he said among other things that he was more comfortable and there are a lot of republicans who feel this way, but he was more comfortable with hillary clinton's approach to foreign policy than rand paul and ron paul's approach to foreign policy. would you agree with lindsey on that front? >> i'm not going to go into that, joe. >> why is that? because it would make people uncomfortable? >> no, i mean, look, if you're asking me to pick between rand paul and hillary clinton i pick rand paul. >> on foreign policy. >> let's not get into that. i don't want to get into who's better on foreign policy. i think rand paul has evolved and matured in very important and significant ways. we agree -- i agree with rand paul on so much more than i agree with hillary clinton. but, look let's talk about trade. that's why you asked me to come on the show. i don't want to get into this 2016 stuff. aren't you tired of talking about this stuff so early snout let's wait for a while and get
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stuff done in congress let's get bipartisan accomplishments then worry about who's running for president later. that's the way i see it. >> it's kind of important. >> i think joe has evolved and matured. >> it's important but it's april of 2015. >> and a lot of people are deciding who to get behind. you peer just pushing me to asking you other questions about 2016. >> yeah thanks. >> talking to me that way. john meacham here. john has a question. john, be forewarned, he doesn't want to talk about 2016. >> i get that. [ laughter ] i get that. even down here. . so about 2016 -- >> there are substantive issues before us let's talk about those then we can talk about this stuff later. that's the way i see it. >> congressman i think folks would look at what you're talking about in trade and the president and wondering so what happened to the dysfunctional white house that we hear so much about from republicans? that the president doesn't engage and doesn't have a vision on these issues?
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is this a case where if you agree with him if it's a vision and if you disagree it's dysfunctional? >> a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then. the president has terrible foreign policy. he's made so many mistakes on foreign policy but in this particular case i think he's going in the right direction so i think -- this is why we have smart policy here. we have smart opposition. where we think the president is going the wrong direction we're going to offer al tern tichs and oppose the direction he's headed. that's the case for most of his foreign policy but where we think he's heading in the right direction we'll support him. he's heading in the right direction on trade and he's engaging in congress more than any issue i've ever seen him engage before and that's to his credit so look, if as far as i see it as what can i do to help wisconsinites get more jobs? what can i do to help grow this economy faster get higher wages? getting these good trade agreements on our terms as americans is in our interest. if the president is doing something right, let's help him.
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if he's doing something wrong oppose him and offer alternatives. that's how we should conduct ourselves. >> paul ryan, i know it's awfully early and i feel really badly, you know i do about asking you a question about something that is so early in the process. but how are the brewers doing this year? >> they didn't start off too well. they'll be okay. they have a good pitching team. they've got -- you know they changed the lineup a bit so we'll see if that makes a difference but they got off to a rough start. >> but it's early paul. >> but we're actually in season right now. >> yeah okay, paul whatever. >> thank you, paul nice to have you on. >> always great talking to you. coming up, mika, it could be a big, big day forring into. >> it could. the latest service the company is launching and how it could revolutionize the cell phone industry. plus white house communications director jen psaki will join us.
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. 31 past the hour. time for business before the bell with sara eisen. sara what will be drawing the market this is morning? one doughw component is coca-cola. coke has been struggling as
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americans ditch soda and go for healthier alternatives. coke put out better numbers and their key is higher pricing. so while we may be drinking less soda, we're paying more and coke's been shrinking the bottles and able to charge more prices so those results look better but like a lot of big multinational companies, it's struggling with the stronger dollar which makes its sales overseas worth less when they bring it back home. so watching coke watching a number of earnings including mcdonald's which were just out coming in better. also a few other stories i wanted to point out. amazon isn't the only one working on drone delivery. the u.s. postal service made a short list of some companies like -- car companies like nissan and traditional companies but on that list of who would provide the next generation vehicles, a company called workhorse which makes these mobile delivery vans with a drone on top that can fly apparently 35 to 50 miles per hour, drop off a parcel come back to the van, recharge
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itself, pick out its own gps. i don't know -- i know you guys have mixed feelings about that idea but it could be interesting to watch. it was developed at the university of cincinnati's engineering school. the vehicle is called horse fly: so we'll see if the post office goes with that. and then finally, interesting story here, "wall street journal" reporting that as we know google has been working on a wireless service it could be announced as early as today. more details on that, that it's going to piggyback off networks of at&t and t-mobile services and perhaps most interestingly for consumers it would be a charge as you go data plan. in other words being able to pay for as much data as you're going to use instead of what we do now which is basically pay for a bunch of data per month. so we'll see if that shakes up or disrupts the pricing model which is very competitive amongst these wireless carriers. >> i'm still thinking about the drones. i don't think i like it. cnbc's sara eisen thank you so
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much. joining us from washington nbc news political director and moderator of "meet the press," chuck todd we'll be joined by jen psaki in just a moment. chuck, how are you doing? >> i'm good. >> we're going to be asking jen psaki about yemen. and i know yesterday it was said that with yemen and the potential threat there it should not interrupt the negotiations and the framework going on. do you think that's going to hold? >> i obviously they want it to hold. i don't know. this has been the trickiest part of the entire iran deal right? it's not just that here we are actively potentially in a hot military confrontation with them. i mean at least now saudi arabia is saying that they're done with their air campaign, but their air campaign was being supportedgistically by the united states and at the same time we're supposed to cut a deal with them and convince the
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american public you can trust them on this deal. it adds to the political kept schism that this deal -- that iran will hold up this end of the bargain. that's the problem. joining us now, director of communications at the white house, jen psaki. >> good morning. >> would you agree we that, jen? there's already a lot of skepticism for this framework. lack of trust as iran being a fair player in this now you have this yemen intervention. >> well, mika, as the saying goes, the proof is in the pudding. the fact is, iran has abided by the jpoa. we'll the be watching closely. our key part of any iran agreement or negotiation. but there's no question here that even if there's an iran deal, which we're working hard on i'm knocking on wood here as we're working to get there there are still other concerns we have. we're not rubber stamping or supporting their human rights violations, their state sponsorship of terrorism around the world. that will continue post-iran
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deal. and that's something that we work with the international community on. >> the fact though, that u.s. ships have had to steam into the persian gulf to stop the smuggling of arms into yemen doesn't cause the white house concern? doesn't give you reason to pause on the other deal? >> well, i think it's important to remember that there are several foreign policy levers working at the same time. this is obviously an example of that. but we've also had examples of iran's detaining iran citizens, iran supporting syria and their actions that were killing of tens of thousands of innocent civilians there. we've long had concerns about iran. we've long opposed them on a number of steps. we have ships in the region for a reason. obviously we have contingency plans but, again i think nobody would question the fact that it's in everyone's benefit, the united states, the region everyone, to prevent iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. that's what we're working on with this deal. >> jen, phil mattingly.
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when you look at yemen specifically and u.s. interests particularly on the counterterrorism front there's a report that for the first time in six or seven weeks there was a drone strike targeting aaqap. how would you describe the u.s. capabilities with everything going on in yemen over the last couple months? >> you're right. we can't talks about operational steps, that hasn't changed since i started at the white house three weeks ago but the fact is counterterrorism operations, there are a number of contacts and points of contact we've had on the ground and we continue to have on the ground. as you know our ambassador to yemen has been moved, relocated to jeddah, as has some of his close staff. the fact is is it much easier to have a presence on the ground, a diplomatic presence that has a range of components from the government? of course it is. that's what we want to get back to. but we're working to maintain as much as we can our counterterrorism cooperation on the ground to take on the threat of al qaeda and other terrorism threats that we're concerned
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about. >> jen, chuck todd is in the d.c. bureau and has a question. >> hi, chuck. >> hi, jen. happy earth day, i see you're wearing green. >> i happen to love green but now i'm just going to take credit for wearing green because i love the earth. so thank you for that. >> let me go back to the iran question. if we do this deal with them, they get more resources and more money and look what they're doing with that money in the middle east. there's an argument to be said they if you kept these sanctions in place you at least handicap iran from being as aggressive. look how aggressive they're being without the financial resources that they're going to get after there deal. how do you explain giving them more financial -- resources back, that they clearly are going to use to flex their muscles in the region. >> well i'm glad you asked this question, which may surprise you that i'm saying that, but the fact is, how sanctions would be unwound and which sanctions would be unwound and the timing of that have is part of the
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negotiation. that's why we're all talking about it righting? and some of it is -- there's a perceptions but iran would get a flood of money that would come back. that's not the case. aside from the negotiation about the sanctions related to their nuclear program, there's also sanctions that are in place because they're a human rights violator, a state sponsor of terrorism. so this is a case where we have an overarching goal here which is iran having a nuclear weapon is in no one's interest. that's scary nobody wants that the american people don't want that, nobody wants that. but there are other components we will keep in place and we are certainly factoring in working with congress, how these sanctions would be unwound as part of a final deal. >> hillary clinton said "from my perspective, i want to make sure we get small businesses starting and growing in america again. our economy has stalled out." do you agree with hillary
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clinton's perceptions but that the economy is stalled out? does the president agree with hillary clinton's view of the economy? >> well, i don't think we've put it in those terms. the fact is that there is more we need to do on the economy and we haven't been talking about this issue a lot publicly because as you all know there's a lot to talk about happening globally happening domestically. but the fact is there are a number of components, tax cuts for small businesses obviously the trade agreement we're working on, that helps. >> but was hillary clinton wrong in her assessment that the u.s. economy is "stalled out"? >> well, the fact is i don't know what statistics she and her team are looking at. there are a ranger of statistics that you can look at. >> are there some that are correct. >> what about the white house? does the white house believe they've stalled out. >> i wouldn't put in the those terms at all. there's more we need to do. we risk having a growth level that is not where we need it to be if we don't take more steps to address the economy. and, frankly, the trade agreement that we're talking about is a good example of this
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because more than 90% of exporters are small businesses and that's one of the reasons we are talking about it. >> jen psaki, thank you very much. we know the president is making an earth day visit to the the everglades national park to highlight the rising seas. we'll watch for that today and thank you very much for being on the show. >> my pleasure, pray for no rain. thank you, the everyone. still ahead he's part of the upcoming supper blockbuster "tomorrowland" and says he still doesn't know what the movie is about. country music superstar and one of "time" magazine's most influential people in the world tim mcgraw is up next. thank you for being a sailor, and my daddy. thank you mom, for protecting my future. thank you for being my hero and my dad. military families are thankful for many things. the legacy of usaa auto insurance could be one of them. our world-class service earned usaa the top spot in a study of the most recommended large companies in america. if you're current or former military or their family, see if you're eligible
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♪ night, if oh i don't ever want to know ♪ no other shotgun rider beside me singing to the radio ♪ that was tim mcgraw performing at last night's "time" 100 gala. the recording artist joins us now. we have john meacham with us from nashville who wrote tim's "time" 100 profile. in the magazine. that was nice of meacham to do wasn't it? >> he's a pretty nice guy to do something like that. >> he didn't write so badly, did he? >> well, the fact that-the-only listens to classical music -- [ laughter ] >> in his paisley smoking jacket. >> he's a pretty upper-crust guy. >> he is yes. >> man this is a real honor. i've been a fan for a long time and i love your story. i absolutely love your story and where you started and everything else. talk about your dad first of all, if that's all right.
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just for people that don't know that watch talk about your dad and that special relationship. >> my dad. i didn't know my dad. i met him once when i was 11. my dad tug mcgraw was a baseball player. i met him once when he was 11 years old and i found out he was my dad because my mom and step dad were going through a divorce. my step dad was a truck driver, cowboy, great guy in a lot of ways. in a lot of ways he was a troubled guy. but i found my birth certificate and it said my dad was a professional baseball player. >> a big professional -- we all grew up watching tug mcgraw. >> so i met him once but didn't get to know him until my early 20s i really got to know him and my brother and my sister mark and carrie. i've got another brother matthew mcgraw from tug. so -- then he died a couple years ago from brain cancer at 59 years old. >> now did you write "withlive like you were dying" for him?
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>> i didn't write the song but it came during the time he was sick and oddly enough he was sick at the time, he was staying at our cabin in nashville and i had the song but i never played it for him because i didn't want to play it for him before he died and after he died we went in the studio to record it my uncle hank my dad's older brother who was also a ball player played minor league ball for 13 years, a quartzerback in high school, he was in the studio with us when we recorded that song. we were in upstate new york and i remember 2:003:00 in the morning regarding that song with my band, it was pretty special for him. >> it had to be official for him. >> you performed last night. >> i did. >> i heard kanye west performed last night and there are rumors, and i won't attribute this to anybody, but i've heard he performed part of his act on his back at one point? he was laying down singing? is that something you have ever trade to bring to the table? >> it's kanye, what are you going to do? >> i've tried to do it but it doesn't work for me.
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>> we prefer you standing up. meacham, go ahead. >> pretend like you know something about country music. >> how are you, sir? we miss you. how do you know when a song is right? you must have stuff coming over the transom all day long. >> well, you listen to songs, whether you're writing or listening to demos from song writers, you open your heart up and listen and it moves you in a visceral way. if it doesn't hit me right away i pretty much know it and i'm even harder on songs that are right. so i have to open myself up and in the first verse or two i know with will the song is right for me. it's got to sound like -- anything you do in life, certainly music and art has to come from an honest place and if it doesn't do that, it won't work and it won't reach people. so if it doesn't reach me it's going to be tough for me to reach someone else with it. >> 32 number one songs. >> his career sin credible.
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>> over 40 million albums sold. >> and you want to spread awareness of type two diabetes because you've been touched by it in your family. >> yes family members who lived with diabetes. i had an aunt who died from complications with diabetes and 30 million americans are affected by diabetes so i don't think anybody has not been touched by it in some way, whether it's family or their circle or friends. so i've teamed up with merck and the american diabetes association and what we're doing is asking americans to go to americas americas americasdiabeteschallenge americasdiabeteschallenge.com and check their a 1c. >> as the father of three teen daughters can you tell joe what he's in for? he thinks that raising daughters are so easy. >> my daughter is perfect. >> it's fantastic. >> how do you survive? how do you survive? >> how do i survive? i survive by saying "it's
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fantastic. they're so wonderful, i love them." >> those girls go after their moms, your wife has three teenagers on her hands. >> but my wife is pretty tough so she can handle it pretty well. but i have a houseful of opinionated women so it's interesting to watch. >> mika, you'll be interested in this because mika does this know your value grow your value telling women how to be strong and in part how to deal with it. >> they should come. >> how to deal with it when you might be in a stronger position than your husband career wise. i was in the grammys, i think it was 2000 2001, this was the year of faith hill. wherever she went. >> uh-oh. she needs to come to know your value. >> and i get to see you from five feet behind walking around and everybody's going "faith hill. and here's tim." >> has that changed at all? >> it's always like that. >> biggest guy in nashville and country music and you know what he does the whole time? he's got his hat up, he's sitting there.
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turn best husband. you quietly stayed out of the way. it was really something, though. >> i'm very proud of her. i think not only is she an amazing artist but she's an amazing woman, an amazing mom. i think she's the most beautiful girl in the world so i feel fortunate to be her husband. >> and by the way i'm a connecticut guy, i want to thank you for what you've done to help the people in sandy hook. >> i thank you. >> that means the world for our community, it really does. >> well thank you, it's -- you know, back to leading with your heart. when you've been given great opportunities, i'm a dad, i'm a brother, i'm a husband i'm a son and when you see things where you can help and you see situations you can help in i'm going to lead with my heart. i live my life leading with my heart, i do the things that i do and support the causes that i support, try to help in the areas that i can help and i do that with my heart. if i have a decision to lead with my head or heart i lead
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with my heart every time. >> that's why you're so influential. thank you, tim. we have a thousand other questions. >> come back next time, bring faith and we'll try not to ignore you. >> and go to americasdiabeteschallenge.com. >> we'll do that. we'll be back with much more- three-quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do, drive three-quarters of a car? now if you had liberty mutual new car replacement, you'd get your whole car back. i guess they don't want you driving around on three wheels. smart. with liberty mutual new car replacement, we'll replace the full value of your car. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. >>who... is this?! >>hi, i am heinz new mustard. hi na na na na >>she's just jealous because you have better taste. whatever. >>hey. keep your chin up. for years, heinz ketchup has been with the wrong mustard. well, not anymore. introducing heinz new better tasting yellow mustard. mmm! meet the world's newest energy superpower. surprised? in fact, america is now the world's
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of one albert. are. hunt, you will not and are not and will never be a frat guy. >> i was never in a frat. why would anybody think i was in a frat? i'm not a joiner, my friends remember that. if it's way too early, it's "morning joe." stick around we have "the rundown" coming up next. and good morning, i'm jose diaz-balart. first on "the rundown," protests are growing louder and larger after the death of a man fatally injured in police custody. more demonstrations are expected today, the day after the justice department announced it's conducting a civil rights investigation into freddie gray's death. six police officers, five men and one women have been suspended. nbc's tom costello is in baltimore with the latest. tom? good morning. >> reporter: jose, good morning to you. as you know, this department of justice investigation is going to run as the city