standoff continues between the u.s. and iranian ships off the coast of yemen. and ben affleck addresses the controversy over his slave-owning ancestor. but first, president obama goes to the front lines of climate change. it is wednesday, april 22nd. earth day. and this is "now." president obama makes an earth day visit to the everglades, aiming to turn up the political heat on confronting climate change. by visiting the ecosystem known as the river of grass, the president is drawing attention to an area rich in beauty and in biological diversity, but also a potent example of the risks posed by climate change. the everglades' 1.5 million acres are poised between marsh and ocean, fresh water and salt water, a delicate balance leaving both tourism and drinking water under threat from rising sea levels. threats the president addressed just moments ago. >> climate change is threatening this treasure and the communities that depend on it,

which includes almost all of south florida. and if we don't act there may not be an everglades as we know it. simply refusing to say the words climate change doesn't mean that climate change isn't happening. >> the president's earth day remarks come as americans are confronting human impact on the environment, like never before. californians are operating under mandatory water restrictions, four years and counting into the state's historic drought. on the gulf coast tar balls still wash ashore five years after the explosion of the deep water horizon with reports that up to ten million gallons of oil has settled on the sea floor. got in oklahoma, the state acknowledged just yesterday that hundreds of earthquakes rocking the state are linked to fracking. the president's remarks also aim to highlight a climate contrast with republicans who seek to occupy the oval office come 2016. folks like florida's own marco rubio, who declared in bold fashion this week i believe

climate is changing because there's never been a moment where the climate is not changing. senator rubio questioned how much of that change was caused by human activity. joining me now is the director of nasa's goddard institute for space studies, dr. gavin schmidt. editor-in-chief of vox.com ezra klein. and former deputy campaign manager for obama 2012 stephanie cutter. dr. schmidt, let me start with you. in terms of the things that we can manage at this point you look at the ozone layer, and there was a concerted effort not to use cfcs to repair that. >> right. >> it seems like we made progress there. given where we are now, what we're looking at in terms of our environment, where should we be focusing our efforts and what can we prevent? >> so there's a number of things associated with the environment. particularly carbon pollution that's leading to the rising sea levels that obama talked about. the main thing that we need to be doing is capping our carbon dioxide emissions. those are the emissions that arise from the burning of oil

and the burning of natural gas and deforestation as well. they're linked to climate change, air quality, public health, ecosystem health, and there are an enormous amount of things that we're trying to do now, but need to be working on much more strongly in the future. >> what is sort of already baked in at this point, given what we haven't done in a timeframe when we probably should have been more aggressive? >> there are delays in the system. there are lags in the system that mean that the planet's temperature haven't caught up with what we've already put into the atmosphere. so we're still kind of catching up with what happened 20 30 years ago. what we're doing is baking in more warming, more mel more sea level rise into the future. >> some scientists say it's not a question as to whether places like miami will be under water. they will be. it's just a question of when. how accurate do you think that is? >> miami is really at the front lines of places that are highly

at risk of increased flooding at high tides increased storm surges, and increased damage when there's a big storm coming through, like we saw here in new york with sandy. places along the east coast particularly are very vulnerable because there's a slow sinking of the land as well as rising of the water. and that makes the risks much larger. it is a question of time. we're seeing this continuing decade by decade by decade. by the time we get to 2050 it's going to be worse than it is now and it's going to continue to get worse. >> and who's going to be president in 2050? stephanie, i thought it was really interesting that president obama gave a dig to the governor of florida, who did not meet him on the tarmac today. i made the reference to the phrase climate change. it is not smiled upon in the florida state house. and i guess i wonder, at what point in the future presidential cycle do republicans actually start talking about and tackling climate change? >> i think that's a great question. i think we're going to see a lot

of that debate in this presidential cycle. every candidate that has said they're willing to tackle it in a major way, emotion of them are climate denyiers. if republicans want to win general elections, that position is going to be able to hold. if they want to expand their coalition and winning the election, whether it's young people or women, parents or really the majority of the american people, that is contrary to what most of the american people think. so they're going to be out of step. >> there's a debate about how you handle the argument. the president made an effort to frame it around economics. think progress has a different sort of -- they have a different position on this. which is that the moral argument around being shepherds of this earth, future generations and our existence on the planet is a better argument. it's more convincing to broad

sections of the american public. where do you land? >> i have absolutely no idea. >> okay. moving on. >> i think that there is a deep difficulty in talking about climate change. i've written about this before that i'm very pessimistic that we're going to do anything in time. if you were designing an issue with the american political system you would design one where the costs are international before -- the worst costs anyway are international before they're national. where it hits the poorer before the rich. where the costs are in the future and the payment for doing anything is in the present. where doing anything about it has highly regional disparate impacts. so kentucky would take it much harder than, say, california. what you need to do on some level in terms of pricing carbon can be sold as a tax. it's like an issue that is custom designed to foil the american political process. and so on some level -- and this is why things like what rubio

said scare me. this is one of those situations where i don't think it's about that. they have to actually want to save the planet. and if they don't want to do that, if they want to try to fuzz up the issue and if they want to try to make people doubt, it's not a hard issue to do that on. but morally they should want to do something to preserve the climate. we've only got one of these climates, unfortunately. >> don't you think, if it's about -- i mean, setting aside the argument, if it's framed in terms of -- i mean sort of the genesis for caring is an economic reason -- i'm trying to avoid the word argument. but isn't that compelling -- shouldn't that be compelling for conservatives, although i guess the moral argument could be equally as compelling. >> i think it's better to frame it around welfare rather than the economy per se.

the economy here, $100 here means something very different in bangladesh. we can't bring everything down to dollars and cents. but if we talk about welfare everybody can get behind that. and there's a lot of things that people will all agree with. people agree that we should be spending more money, investments. they agree we should be having cleaner energy. some things cut across some of the more partisan lines. in ways that are quite surprising. senator inhofe supported reducing black carbon, soot in the atmosphere, which was also contributing to climate change. but, you know but he wasn't pro-change ing pro-changing carbon dioxide. there are lots of different ways to tackle this. there are lots of ways in different parts of the country and the world that will be useful and supported by a majority of people. i think we need to be focusing on things that we can agree on.

sometimes i think the language gets in the way. not mentioning climate change. that doesn't change anything. >> i guess the question is whether you can take the action you need to on a broad scale, if you're not acknowledging the problem. i mean semantics is one thing. but it's also sort of an outlier for how much people are willing to embrace an issue. stephanie, why isn't this a litmus test in this election cycle? i mean, it doesn't seem like it is. jeb bush who made the moderate compared to many of his other fellow potential running mates. he staked out a position on immigration that is counter to what the party line is. he doesn't seem to be taking the same position on something like climate change, which is a looming problem, a looming disaster in many of the same ways. >> uh-huh. >> i actually think it is a litmus test. but if a little bit of a different way. not as a singular issue, but as a holistic agenda. and is this candidate forward looking, future looking, are they bringing us back to the same policies that got us into this mess.

it's very similar to the problem that mitt romney faced whether it was on climate change. that was part of this problem. or gay marriage. or women's health issues. he wanted to go back to old past policies. he wasn't about the future. that's a problem for this electorate. and if republicans are continuing to deny whether climate change is happening or be unwilling to do anything about it, or even be unwilling to talk about it and putting a gag order on state employees, that is going to have resonance with the american electorate. they're going to see that as out of step and it's going to be backward looking. >> ezra, the other part of -- and you mentioned this. the fact that various parts of the country are under various levels of threat. there is a real estate bubble. and it is around sort of coastal areas that the national -- i think it's national flood insurance program is insuring. basically subsidizing people living in high-risk areas in

places like new york city or miami. big cities. if you look at that chart, florida in particular is in harm's way. you have a social divide but maybe this works in reverse in convincing people that this is a problem that should be dealt with. >> i think something that's interesting about what we are doing here is we are implicitly socializing the cost of climate change. whoo we're doing is miami, as new york, as various parts of the country that are more susceptible to the cost of climate change, again get buffetted by more natural disaster, you are using the mechanism of emergency disaster insurance. we will begin paying for the cost of one, the decision to live in places like miami, but two, the decision that as a

society are making right now to not do anything about climate change. we are really making that decision on behalf of the next generation. we are really making a decision now to not do anything. and the cost will be paid much more by our children than by us. it is such a deeply immoral thing for us as a society to do to be playing this game and just hoping it all comes out okay. >> our children are paying for people to live in south beach. enough said. gavin, ezra, stephanie, thank you guys all for your time. after the break, justice for freddie. more protests are planned tonight and tomorrow in baltimore for the 25-year-old who died after being held in police custody. plus could the man who shot ronald reagan soon be permanently released? and later, we will introduce you to a new high-rise that has one entrance for the rich, and a separate entrance for the poor. for real. that's ahead on "now." sunday dinners at my house... it's a full day for me, and i love it.

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after more than a thousand people took to the streets of baltimore in peaceful protest last night more demonstrations against the death of freddie gray are planned for both this evening and tomorrow. gray is, of course, the 25-year-old man who died of a spinal injury after being held in police custody. it is still not clear how exactly gray was injured. police say there's no evidence their officers used force, though six officers involved in the incident have been suspended with pay, while an internal investigation is carried out. this afternoon baltimore police said investigators have met with those six officers and the justice department announced yesterday it would open an investigation into gray's death. like other cities across the country, relations between the police and the community in the city of baltimore are tense at

best. according to a wide ranging investigation conducted by "the baltimore sun," between 2011 and 2014, the city paid $5.7 million in settlements to more than 100 victims of police brutality. victims including a 15-year-old boy riding a dirt bike. a 26-year-old pregnant woman. and an 87-year-old grandmother aiding her wounded grandson. joining me now is heather mcgee and dorian warren. so heather, the profiles of those people who are examples held up by the "sun," the one thing they have in common is that they are low-income americans and this disproportionately affects communities of color. i wonder if you think we are having a moment, wherein we realize we're living -- there are parallel tracks in american society. and the train is well on the course for both. >> well, we are a nation that has really given up on the idea

that police should be used as a last resort. right now our criminal justice system is being used as a first resort for all sorts of social ills that we are simply not addressing through common sense public policy. whether it's affordable housing or jobs or mental health, or health care. these are all the sort of roots of the issues that lend communities that are deeply segregated because we've given up on even the goal of integration in our communities. to be simply surrounded by a level of police surveillance, activity harassment, dehumanization that has reached a boiling point in this country. i think what's exciting about this moment is that there actually isn't anything different than what's happened between when we first started hearing black lives matter sort of resound through social media and into the streets, and what has happened in the ten years prior to that, except that what's different is that it's

happening and it's being covered on news shows like yours, people of all races are taking to the streets to assert that black lives matter and the new jim crow, of course, isas michelle alexander so beautifully put it has to come to an end. >> i guess i wonder, dorian, when we talk about reform, i want to read an excerpt from "the baltimore sun's" magnum opus, a piece that came out last year. it reports that officers have battered dozens of residents who have suffered broken bones jaws noses, ankles, head trauma organ failure, even death coming during questionable arrests. some residents were beaten while handcuffed. others were thrown to the pavement. in almost every case prosecutors or judges dismissed the charges against the victims if charges were filed at all. so this is a question -- there's certainly reforms that need to be undertaken in policing, and there are broader questions that we'll get to later about whether or not policing is even appropriate. but the criminal justice system,

the idea that -- it seems like nine times out of ten, that we err on the side of law enforcement. do you think that that is changing in terms of society and maybe even in terms of the courts? >> i certainly hope so. because frankly this is exhausting. week after week after week to hear the new name of the black person that was killed and there are no consequences in general for the officers. there's just no consequences for law enforcement. and people are organizing and it has sparked a movement. but in terms of the connection of others who are concerned, who are indirectly affected to actually say oh i'm exhausted by this too because black lives matter and by the way, because $6 million in taxpayer money is being spent. how much money are we spending to defend these officers, or to pay for their transgression. >> in baltimore alone, 2011 to

2014 i think it was the $5.8 million spent on legal defense. but that's with a fairly low ceiling. the number would be a lot higher if there wasn't a limit on this. there are a lot of questions that you have to ask about his injuries. spinal cords are not usually severed by the use of reasonable force. spinal cords are not suffered simply because a suspect is placed in the back of a police van for a 30-minute ride. there are a lot of questions here. do you think that between the doj, between the attention this case is getting that we will find out what happened to freddie gray? >> i think that there are a lot of questions, but not that many

possible answers to what happened, a citizen being dragged into the police van, and the point of which he was taken out, with 80% of his spinal cord severed from his neck. there aren't that many possible things that could have happened when this young man was handcuffed in the back of a police van surrounded by police officers for half an hour. so yes i think there may be testimony that comes out. i think there may be explanations given. but frankly, if this were you know, a civil case or something like that, just between two civilians, i think we would be a lot more clear that some injury happened and that it was a perpetrator and a victim. the fact that we even have to sort of keep these assumptions of where we're believing that no excessive force was used which is what the police are saying, is a bit insane. >> i want to talk a little bit about a point heather made about when and whether and how we use

police. really a relevant and incisive point to make, we ask ourselves were the police justified in shooting? but in this time of heightened concern around policing, a more essential question might be were we justified in sending them? that's the big question right? should we even have police get involved in child support payments, which is why walter scott was running. should a policeman with a gun be the person that mediates someone who has a situation for someone who hasn't taken their medication? but do you think we can even ask those questions? >> you just did. >> i can, and i'm sure many people have an issue, but as a society, can we even ask those questions? >> i think we are heading in that direction. if we think back to a year ago and ferguson that discussion was about well the city

politicians aren't representing the residents. this is a case of a black police chief and a black mayor. so that sobers us up a little bit to ask the deeper, more radical question, what is the role of policing in the first place? how do we even define what public safety means? and have we gone too far? have we gone past the limit in terms of the role of police and how do we rethink what police should do in this society? there's some that would argue we wouldn't even need police if we didn't have poverty and other social ills sort of an anarchist society that we wouldn't even need police forces in the first place if there was justice. that's one pole of the argument. i think another side of that is, can we curtail what are the functions of police very discreet things that maybe are just around violence. >> well, to your point, heather, we have made police the sort of intermediaries to deal with poverty. they are the people that interface with poor people. people that don't have access to health care. people that don't have the sort of social resources that

privileged people do. thank you guys both for your time and thoughts. thank you alex. just ahead, heavy fire power on the waters off yemen. u.s. and allied warships are converging on the region tracking an iranian convoy suspected of trafficking weapons for the huthi rebellion. more on that show of force coming up next.

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cons, despite an announcement from the saudis yesterday that they would end their month-long air campaign to focus on a political solution. yemen has been a country without a government now for three months. since the saudi coalition began its bombing campaign over three weeks ago, many residents have been living with no electricity no water, and no food. nearly a thousand people have been killed and nearly 150,000 people have been forced from their homes. coming up, john hinckley has spent three decades in a psychiatric hospital. now the man who tried to assassinate president reagan is back in court and could soon be free. that's next. t. tylenol was ok, but it was 6 pills a day. but aleve is just 2 pills all day. and now, i'm back! aleve.

♪ building aircraft, the likes of which the world has never seen. this is what we do. ♪ that's the value of performance. northrop grumman. and now the stories that you will not be able to stop thinking about no matter how hard you try. a d.c. judge will determine whether john hinckley should go free. there is something called a poor door, and there are 90000 new yorkers who would like to walk through it. and john boehner and nancy

pelosi were not sitting in a tree but they were k-i-s-s-i-n-g. can we wait for the kiss? we passed it. but first, ben affleck speaks out for the first time about his slavery censorship controversy. affleck says he regrets asking "finding your roots" to omit the fact that one of his distant ancestors was a slave owner. "i didn't want any television show about my family to include a guy who owned slaves. i was embarrassed. the very thought left a bad taste in my mouth. affleck's request became public knowledge last week when wikileaks published a trove of hacked sony e-mails, including some from gates asking michael lipton for requests about his request. he admitted to do this would be a violation of pbs rules, actually even for batman. and once we open the door to censorship, we lose control of

the brand. but when the show aired three months later any mention of affleck's slave-owning ancestors had been left out. yesterday, pbs said it was investigating the matter. joining me now is joan walsh. heather mcgee. and liz, who comes out looking more suspect here, pbs or ben affleck? >> i think pbs. i mean i think you can make any request you want. i look bad whatever. but pbs is the one who ultimately allowed it to happen. but i think the fact that ben affleck couldn't look at his own history and say i'm a part of it i'd like to explore it, i want to learn more, makes me feel sad for him and angry. our family has a very sordid past some relatives on my father's side, where my dad's first cousin was one of the architects of the cheney murders and my sister wrote a book about it. so it was an exploration of our

own family to see what that was. and people were actually i think happy that we wanted to talk about it and recognize our privilege and history and what that is, so it grosses me out. >> i talked to the great brian stevenson about this. he said well it surprises me that anybody in america doesn't think their ancestors had slaves. this is part of american history and it's a way of talking about it, ben affleck. >> it seems like that's kind of the point of the show. henry louis gates has devoted his life to this. so the idea that he was faced with this. in the e-mails, he comes off trying to do the right thing. >> but doesn't that make it worse? >> he knows exactly what he's doing. he fell on a sword in his omit statement saying i did this on my own, but it doesn't look like that from the e-mails. first of all, why do you say yes to this show? you did. you don't want this included? it's been really nice working with you, we're just not going

to do the show. >> i think this is not actually surprising to me that ben affleck wanted to do this. because we do not as a culture have any collective acknowledgement that slavery happened, that it built our economy, and that every single one of us around this table no matter my parents -- my ancestors were slaves. you're talking about your family member who was an architect of the freedom summer murders. it doesn't matter if your family came here very recently. we all as people living and working in this economy and this democracy are shaped by the legacy of racism in this country. >> and are benefiting from the systems built by slaves. >> exactly. and so this is a broader issue than ben affleck. it makes a lot of sense to me that someone in the very mainstream of our popular culture would feel like there's no sort of safe room for him to even talk about it. it's an american denial that we

need to move past. i feel like it should be an individual thing. >> i think this is what we're supposed to be talking about. affleck says it left a bad taste in his mouth. slavery should leave a bad taste in everybody's mouth. >> kale. kale leaves a bad taste in your mouth. slavery, a little bigger. >> that's what we were talking about in the previous segment. >> as someone who has been in "gili" -- he obviously had his shame censor. i'm going to stop. but i agree. this is the fundamental question of our american identity and whether we're truly reconciled with it. moving on. the latest from the haves vus have not files. a stallering 8,000 new yorkers have submitted applications for 55 affordable housing units in the "poor door building." it has separate entrance. one for the building's wealthy owners who get access to the pool, the gym, bowling alley, and private theater. and one entrance for the lower income renters who do not.

some part of me joan, is like happy that there's mixed income housing happening. >> it's a little tiny bit. a sliver. >> but this is like the end times sort of dante version of mixed income housing, is it not? >> yes. what level of hell do you live in? >> right. >> and also, you're the wealthy resident. do you make sure no poor people follow you into the gym? >> what happens is the "downton abbey" music plays and the bell rings and you know which way you go. no, it's awful. some of the tone of the coverage is like well, you know, those snooty elitists said this was a terrible thing but the poor want those apartments. of course they do. there's a housing crisis in the city. but the idea that people can't even stand to look at somebody who doesn't have their status, let alone live in the building is so unbelievable. >> i'm being a contrarian here because i don't actually think this is a good idea. but it's like the most direct

representation of the bifurcation in society. here you have -- you keep the poor just kind of like they're there. but they're not really here. you know i mean? >> we're also talking about people who make around $20,000 and $50,000 a year. >> 60% less than the median income in new york city. >> there's an affordability crisis around the country. the national low income housing center does a great study every single year, which they continue to call out of reach. and you basically have to make about $25 an hour in order to have, you know, a two-bedroom apartment in new york city. the minimum wage is $8 an hour. so i think that this is an issue of the fact that taxpayer money is going to subsidies in some ways this building as it is so many of the sky rise developments right now. and it makes perfect sense.

it should serve more new yorkers than just the very few, many of whom don't even necessarily pay. >> and we got 55 units. >> 90,000 applications for those units. >> argued his client has been in full and stable remission for two decades and is clinically ready to live full-time outside of a mental hospital. so i'm all for rehabilitation, but we are talking a lot, liz, about what happens to people who aren't guilty of crimes who get killed and somehow this seems to be in very, very stark contrast. two systems of justice depending on the crime. >> yeah. i just -- i don't know. i feel very conflicted about,

you know -- i mean on the one hand, how do we treat incarcerated people who have severe mental illness. has he served his time? i don't know. because i have such mistrust of our incarceration system that i don't even know what to make of somebody who had delusions and shot the president based on those delusions, and does our system do anybody justice because it sure doesn't seem like they do a lot. >> he's been held longer than other people who committed similar crimes when it didn't involve the president. >> and let me be clear, i'm all for rehabilitation. >> but the fact is that over half of the people who are in our jails and prisons in this country have mental illness of some sort. that's a department of justice. so if we just continue to use the most dehumanizing incarceration system of any

industrialized nation in terms of the conditions under which inmates and prisoners have to live as basically the non-treatment for mental health, the majority of people within those four walls have some mental health issue. we're going to end up with this kind of society where you have two million people under lock and key. >> because of mental problems. >> i'm going to end this on a high note, joan. the kiss. john boehner and nancy pelosi shared a tender moment in the rose garden as they celebrated the passage of the medicare doc fix, because nothing brings john boehner and nancy pelosi together like the medicare doc fix. joan do you think it is possible -- are we going to show the kiss? >> we saw it. >> it was very brief. >> looking for body heat?

>> i haven't seen them either. >> it was fast, but boehner walks up to pelosi and gives her a kiss. >> and she gives him the side face. >> she's very gracious. but it's a forced smile. >> you think it's an icy -- that looks like she's happy. >> it's a beautiful day in spring. >> she looks like a woman who is very practiced in suffering through a kiss for political reasons. god bless her. >> joan walsh heather mcgee, liz winstead, no better people to sit and talk about everything. thank you for your time, my friends. coming up, tom colicio weighs in on the tsunami of wasted food in the u.s. that's just ahead.

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when we think about contributors to climate change, we usually think of power plants or oil rigs or suvs. but one of the biggest drivers of our warming planet is the food we produce. more than a third of all the food raised or grown worldwide is never eaten. in america, that figure is closer to 40%. that's about 20 pounds of food wasted by every person in the country every month. almost all of this waste ends up in landfills where it spews the methane gas into the atmosphere. as we commemorate earth day today, at 10:00 p.m. tonight, msnbc will air "just eat it," a documentary about the colossal

amount of food waste we throw out every day and what we can do about it. >> the amount of fruit that's left either in the field or as discarded after it gets in the packing house, i've seen it as high as 70%. the least i've seen is 20% that gets thrown away for a lot of times no reason that a couple would think would be practical. >> i'll call the food bank and say i can get you an extra load this week, because we're throwing away perfectly good fruit with nothing wrong with it there's just nothing wrong with it. >> joining me now tom colicchio. chef, so how did we get here? from world war ii, where it was all about eating what you can grow. we were very economical with our consumer habits. to this culture of excess and waste. >> i think it started with convenience foods fast foods how they process foods. we started -- we didn't value

food anymore. so it's easy to waste. it almost becomes disposable. when you look at the amount of waste in the system, starting from the farm to the packer, to supermarkets, right to the consumer. right along the entire scale there's waste. you don't notice it. you have the vegetable, the carrot bags, a couple of days go by, it ends up in the garbage. >> i guess i wonder, so what seems to be required is a culture change of sorts. one, getting consumers used to the idea that just because the peach is funny shaped that you can still eat it. but also, there's meats that are a big energy suck and getting us to eat less of it. >> i think that culture shift are going to take longer. this film will inform the culture and things can start to change. so we have to address it on

levels. finding those ugly fruits and vegetables and using them. if something is claimed before it's wasted in the field and it goes to a food bank, it's not wasted anymore. we have to repurpose this stuff. there's a lot of organizations doing amazing things. here in new york city we have city harvest. in washington, there's d.c. central kitchen. college kids are getting together and claiming food waste. so it's happening. millennials, this is something they're very interested in. this idea of food, they want to know where the food's from, where it's sourced. so things are changing. the culture is starting to change. but this is something we don't talk about that often. >> at all. >> not that much. >> the fact that 40% of the food ends up in the garbage can. the environmental impact of that. it's not just a peach that dropped from the sky. it was a peach that was harvested and grown with electricity, with water. >> manpower women power. >> we literally -- it's

unsustainable. >> and then if it ends up in a landfall, now you have methane buildup, which is worse than co2 for the atmosphere. in new york city, we just started composting programs. and i think today mayor de blasio announced that by 2020 we'll separate food waste from regular waste. >> so for the consumer that's like oh my lord what do i do about this? in the movie one suggestion i thought that seemed good was a bin that says eat me first. so you know don't throw out those carrots. you're going to make a carrot puree. what do you do as a normal american? >> italian grandmothers used to make vegetable soup. >> minestrone. >> exactly. i call it freak friday. we go in on friday. and we open up the refrigerator. clear out all the vegetables. make a soup. make a pasta. but i also think it starts with

shopping. try to make better decisions before you shop. everything looks great so we want to buy lots of it. and we want to load up our refrigerator. but we have to have purpose for everything. the other thing is we need to learn how to use your freezers. if you make a big batch of beans, you can freeze some. >> i think the idea of you cooking whatever is left over in my fridge on friday is a good idea. >> well, i think your husband will do okay. i think you're okay. >> tom colicchio, it is always good to see you. thank you, my friend. you can catch "just eat it" tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. coming up, apes as people. that is not the premise of a charlton heston movie -- well, actually it is. it's a legal debate heating up the new york courts. that's next. but now you can give them even more when you save with sentry® fiproguard® plus. with sentry® fiproguard® plus, your pet is just as protected against fleas and ticks as with frontline® plus.

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court has clarify. the court has clarified that order. the judge now says she only intended to let each side argue its case. still, it is a big step forward. the judge is implicitly saying that chimps are, or at least could be persons. according to a spokesman for the non-human rights project. the chimps in question, hercules and leo, not pictured here, are being used for medical experiments in a new york state university. their lawsuit contends that chimpanzees are too emotionally complex to be held in captivity. if hercules and leo win the advocacy group asks that they be released into the care of save the chimps an annual sanctuary in florida, home to 250 rescued

chimpanzees. that is all for now. "the ed show" is coming up next. good evening americans. welcome to "the ed show." live from pensacola, florida. let's get to work. tonight -- >> our officers our task forces are interviewing witnesses to the event. >> later transpacific partnership. >> folks in labor and some progressives are suspicious. >> the answer is not only no, but hell no. >> generally because of the experiences they saw in the past. >> if it doesn't stop, we will be railroaded. and -- >> i hope you're listening because this is so serious. >> in places like this, folks don't have time we don't have time, you do not have time to deny the effects of climate change. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. we start this evening