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biggest requests for the national guard is to hold certain areas we believe we need to hold. >> that is absolutely correct. just to add, if you want to get into the specifics of voek sehicles, we are going to be coming in with up-armored humvees, because i want to make sure our folks are protected. we will be carrying our weapons, because my folks need to be able to protect them selves they can do that. >> what we saw this evening is crowds moving back. is that where you're talking about, the national guard will secure? >> i'm not going to talk exactly where we're going to secure. it will be up to where the state police tells us we need to move. once we have those areas secured
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by police, we will come in and provide the relief for them. so they can then move on and secure other areas. [ inaudible ] >> we will have up to 5,000 that can be called up. it will be up to the state police and governor to tell us how many they need. >> when it comes to the city of baltimore and maryland state police -- [ inaudible ] >> general number around 1500. again, we are relying on -- the city has partners in all of this.
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certainly we're looking to bring in more. we're bringing as many as we possibly can. >> anyone else? [ inaudible question ] [ phone ringing ] >> it's obviously very disappoint disappointing. what started out as a peaceful protest with people expressing genuine concern about incidents that took place and was a peaceful incident for six hours or so 95% of the people involved were conducting themselves in a very peaceful manner. it was well under control. we had a lot of outside
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agitators come in from around the country, and we had some roving gangs and young people that were out looking to cause problems. it's unfortunate. i had a long discussion with the president about this this evening. he supports our actions 100%. we talked about the fact that we've got to find everybody to get the answers and resolve this situation with what happened in the freddie gray incident. but this is an entirely different situation. this is lawless gangs of thugs roaming the streets causing damage to property and injuring innocent people and we're not going to tolerate that. >> governor what was the hardest thing for you to see, whether it be on the line or on tv today, something that you saw in the city of baltimore -- >> all of it was deserving. when you see the law enforcement officers hurt and injured, when
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police cars were on fire when buildings were being set ablaze it was very disturbing and we called everybody together so we were fully ready to engage immediately. [ inaudible ] >> are you worried you're not going to get this under control tonight? >> we're going to put every available asset, as much manpower as it takes, to get this under control as quickly as we can. and we're going to maintain the state of emergency until it's put to rest. >> can you tell us what the president had to say in the conversation? >> he thanked me for the action. said he thought we were doing the right thing. he said i assume that you and your team will be exercising due restraint. i assured him that we were. the last thing we want to do is escalate the violence. and i assured him we weren't
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going to stand by and allow baltimore to be taken over by thugs. he said the justice department -- the new attorney general would be coming in to baltimore, we were going to sit down and work together to see if we can't bring calm to the community and find answers in the case of freddie gray but that was a separate situation, that he felt we absolutely needed to get control of our streets and he endorsed our action that we're taking tonight. >> did he say when the attorney general -- [ inaudible ] >> i don't know, ma'am. he didn't say when. all right. any other questions? [ inaudible ] >> i don't believe i do know for sure but i believe it's 1968. >> one last question is this unprecedented, and -- [ inaudible ] >> it's nowhere near as bad as that at this point.
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we want to make sure it doesn't get to that point. it's certainly the worst thing i've seen since i've been governor, which is only 90 days. any other questions? thank you very much. >> press conference wrapping up at the maryland emergency management agency held by maryland governor larry hogan, who, as he noted there right at the end, has only been governor for 90 days at this point, but has taken very dramatic action against what he described as lawless gangs of thugs. he declared a state of emergency that he described as indefinitely. so a state of emergency in effect in the city of baltimore. it starts now but it doesn't necessarily have an end date. he said it will last as long as they need it to. the governor explaining tonight that he issued that executive order. he agreed to establish that state of emergency in his words 30 seconds after baltimore made
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the request to the governor's office that the state of emergency be announced. now, the main difference this is going to mean in baltimore with the civil unrest with the incredible challenges that have just escalated over the course of today, as we seen violence targeting police and property looting, burning, the main difference is that this will also involve the maryland national guard being called out. we heard from the adjutant general explaining what people in baltimore should expect now that military personnel are being called out to handle this crisis, in addition to the police who are already out there on the streets. she said she wanted people to know that these maryland national guardsmen will be armed, they will be in up-armored humvees and said this is not martial law, yet she
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said because the military will not actually be in a command position. they will be in a support position. but still, this may mean up to 5,000 national guard men and women will be on the streets of baltimore don't. one of the things we are keeping an eye on is reports of two fires. i don't have a lot of detail yet on exactly what's going on with these two fires. at least one of them is a three alarm fire in east baltimore. most of the protests have been in north and northwest baltimore. but two fires, including one large one, one of the two fires has been reported tonight is a three-alarm blaze. that's no reason for me to say that these fires are related to the protests that we have seen today. we saw smaller fires set today, including one police cars -- or excuse me two police vehicles
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burned. but this large blaze with multiple fire companies responding in baltimore, we don't know if that is related to the rioting, to the protests and to the state of emergency that's been called by the governor. we'll keep you posted as we learn more. there's a lot going on in the news right now and we are keeping an eye on all of it. we'll have several live reports this hour and talking with a city official. we'll be talking with my colleague from here at msnbc, al sharpton, who as an activist, has been at the center of organizing efforts of people killed by police. and he also -- reverend sharpton has time and time again been called on by families of people who have been killed by police and also by local authorities, called on reverend sharpton time and time again to wade into
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situations to calm down tensions, to stop violence once it has started in communities that are this angry. so we'll be talking with him tonight about his involvement in the story, will you bs about questions how things like this can be cooled down once they're burning so hot. and we'll get a report from richard engel, who is on the scene of that massive earthquake in nepal being blamed for more than 4,000 deaths. there's a lot going on. but we begin tonight with these dramatic and scary clashes between protesters and police that we have seen unfold throughout the afternoon and into the evening in baltimore today. this rioting and looting broke out after the funeral of freddie gray. the governor of maryland declared a state of emergency in baltimore. he has activated the national guard. that could mean up to 5,000 maryland guards men and women involved in the policing efforts trying to keep the police, protect life and property in baltimore. we have been told that a number
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of police officers have been injured today. police in baltimore said today that the number is 15 officers injured, including two hospitalized. the governor tonight, giving a lower number saying seven police officers injured. we're still trying to track down what is the exact number injured and how serious those injuries are. again, we're told at least two police officers have been hospitalized. the mayor of baltimore declared a city wide curfew. starting tomorrow, no one can be on the streets between 10:00 p.m. and 5:00 p.m. unless you have a medical emergency or you are on your way to work. and anybody else presumably will be subject to arrest for being out on the street after 10:00 p.m. again, the police chief saying that 15 law enforcement officers injured, two still hospitalized.
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the number given by the governor seven officers were injured. we'll try to figure out which number is correct. again, baltimore officials and residents say they have seen nothing like this in baltimore sense the riots of 1968 following the assassination of dr. martin luther king jr. a thousand businesses looted or burned, a thousand fires set in baltimore in '68. some people say parts of that city has never recovered from the damage done in the riots. but tonight, the fires are back and this time it is again, part of something with nationwide significance. freddie gray's death last weekend, after falling into a coma for something unexplained, his death is the proximate cause of what has blown up in the
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streets of baltimore today and tonight. but it is just the latest in a recent string of police violence that have not only affected the communities and families involved, but they have blown up into a national conversation and at times a national crisis about police violence and how communities respond to it. you can also put a marker here on august 9th 2014 with the police shooting of michael brown, 18 years old and unarmed when he was killed by a police officer in ferguson, missouri. his death led to weeks of protests last summer. a few months later in november a grand jury cleared the officer who killed michael brown of all charges. they decided not to indict that officer and during the protests that followed, local businesses in ferguson, missouri were burned to the ground. another man, eric garner in new york he died after police put him in a chokehold after arresting him for selling loose cigarettes.
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he died a few weeks before michael brown was shot. but the protests in ferguson seemed to amplify the response to eric garner's death and thousands protested what happened to garner. then a grand jury decided not to indict the police officers inner ache -- in garner's death in december protested started again around the country. meanwhile, police in cleveland responded to a call in a local park. 12-year-old tamir rice had been playing with a realistic looking pellet gun. within a blink of pulling up to him in that park one of the officers shot and killed that 12-year-old kid. that was in november. no one has been charged in the killing. in february with police in madison, alabama, somebody
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reported a stranger walking through the neighborhood. mr. patell was a grandfather. one of the officers slammed him to the ground so far, it left him paralyzed. that officer was charged with felony civil rights abuse. that same month, police in washington shot an unarmed man who had been throwing rocks at him. they shot him 17 times as he ran away from him. 17 times. he was killed. no one has been charged. last month in inkster, michigan floyd dent came forward to say he had been pulled over and beaten by police. he was left with a fractured eye socket and broken ribs. it all happened to him in january, but the tape of his beating has been playing on a loop in the detroit area since it surfaced a few weeks ago.
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last week, one of the officers was charged with mistreatment of the prisoners. today, we got video of the officers appearing to try to spray floyd dent's flood off their clothes and hads. an attorney for mr. dent says his client was dying there, still bleeding needing medical attention just out of view of the camera as the officers blew off stole and re-enacted the beating for each other. the beginning of this month brought nows of a shooting death of walter scott in north charleston, south carolina. that confrontation began with a traffic stop ending with the officer firing multiple times at mr. scott's back as he fled across a vacant lot. the officer has been charged with murder in that case. as the nation was absorbing that news, word from tulsa, oklahoma
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someone holding the title reserve deputy shot and killed a suspect in a drug sting. the reserve deputy a 73-year-old insurance executive, says he meant to draw his taser but pulled his gun and shot eric harris fatally. he had been a long-time generous donor to the sheriff's department. supervisors from the sheriff's office falsified his training records, so he allegedly be qualified for certain duties when he was not. last week, robert bates pled guilty to manslaughter, but the judge allowed him to go to the bahamas for a family vacation before any further proceedings. today, a top official in that sheriff's department resigned after a memo showed him asking
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staffers to modify records. the tulsa sheriff's department also released undercover video showing the man who got killed in the days leading up to the day they shot and killed him. this shows eric harris selling drugs to an undercover officer before making an arrangement to sell him a gun. why did they release that tape? it didn't happen on the day of the shooting. the sheriff's department said they released the video because the media which asked for it which could be true if anybody knew it existed, but it looks like what happened in ferguson, missouri, when the police chief released video of 18-year-old michael brown from before the incident which michael brown was shot and killed. tape of a unrelated incident in a convenient store that happened before he was killed, which the
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officer who killed him was not present. the chief said the media had been clamoring for that tape and he couldn't continue to withhold it. even though in ferguson there doesn't appear much record at all that anybody asked to see that tape. they just felt the need to put it out there to make michael brown look as terrible as possible. we have been live thing story over and over, month after month, shooting after chokehold after beating. just pick a month and google around and up pops a story and now a video of police violence mostly involving an unarmed man who is not white. day after day, week after week season after season city after city, and now baltimore. what you are seeing in this american city is the latest local manifestation of what is turning out to be a national crisis this year. in baltimore, it began with the arrest of freddie gray.
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we do have cell phone video of that arrest. i'm not going to play it over and over again. it is short and difficult viewing, but it does go some distance to explain what happened. april 12th. i'll show it once. >> aahh! [ bleep ]. >> i've been recording this [ bleep ]. i've been recording this. what car they come out of? him right there, he on a bike. >> don't worry about it, don't worry about it. >> the officers who arrested freddie gray in baltimore say that he saw them and took off running. that's why they gave chase and stopped him. they loaded him into the van, as you saw, he seems to be
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screaming in pain. whatever happened later, freddie gray emerged from that van with his spinal cord nearly severed and his voice box crushed. one theory is they may have given him a rough ride where they leave him handcuffed but not buckled in. more than one person has been paralyzed in baltimore before freddie gray. freddie gray ended up paralyzed and in a coma and on april 19th. a week after he was arrested he died. in the days after his arrest baltimore saw a string of peaceful protests as people came out chanting "black lives matter." a larger protest included some vandalism and violence. 35 people were arrested and six police officers incurred minor injuries. but mostly city authorities were
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able to keep the peace without using force and without taking people in custody. this is how the mayor described things saturday night. >> we've had these types of conversations before and i've made it very clear that i work with the police and instructed them to do everything that they could to make sure that the protesters were able to exercise their right to free speech. it's a very delicate balancing act, because while we try to make sure that they were protected from the cars and the other things that were going on we also gave those who wished to destroy space to do that as well. and we worked very hard to keep that balance and to put ourselves in the best position to deescalate. and that's what you saw this evening. >> that's what you saw this evening. that was the mayor of baltimore speaking on saturday.
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the mayor and the police chief and freddie gray's family and local leaders calling for calm appealing for peace. then today in baltimore, they buried freddie gray. there had been calls for people not to protest on this day. mr. gray's funeral began in the late morning and they buried him at the shiloh baptist church. 2200 people capacity and it was filled and people stood outside. that church is near a school and a mall. and after school let out, after the funeral, this is what happened. local news say these clashes began when the schools let out and the kids flooded into the streets at once. whatever part of this might have been a peaceful protest, people set cars on fire they smashed a police cruiser, they hurled things at police who responded by appearing to hurl things out and in some cases with rubber
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bullets. among the 15 officers that were reportedly injured today, one was reported this afternoon to be nonresponsive, to be unconscious. but we're told that two officers remain in the hospital tonight. we do not have more information about their status other than they are hospitalized. the governor has declared a state of emergency and activated the national guard. the city curfew will be in effect for a week starting tomorrow. nobody allowed on the streets between 10:00 p.m. and 5:00 p.m. except in the case of a medical emergency or if you are going to work. even as the looting continues tonight, the mayor pledged that order would be restored in baltimore. >> with respect to how to get to order, let's be clear. the council president and i share the frustration of the negative images that are being
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shown of our great city. but we will hold the individuals destroying our city accountable. so once people start getting arrested for the looting and the destruction, they will understand this is not a lawless city, and the thugs and the -- the -- you know it -- i'm at a loss for words because it doesn't -- it is idiotic to think that by destroying your city that you're going to make life better for anybody. >> the mayor of baltimore speaking earlier tonight. there are reports of fires burning in the city of baltimore tonight, including this large one on the right side of your screen. the wbal chopper affiliate says
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that they are told by a police source that this large fire that you see here is a senior facility that was under construction that is burning or not thought to be any injuries associated with this fire. there are reports that there are multiple fires burning in baltimore. whether or not they are related to the protests this the streets, obviously another huge challenge for the first responders of baltimore tonight. part of what we have seen today is the fire department firefighters being -- having a hard time getting on site to respond to car fires and property fires that have been part of these protests. if this is indeed an unrelated fire tonight that happens to just be happening in the mid of of this other state of emergency, it's just not much of a challenge regardless of the cause of this fire and whether it's connected to these protests.
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erica green is a baltimore sun reporter who has been out in the streets of baltimore all day. thank you very much for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> can you give me what you've seen today in terms of the trajectory and where the momentum is? >> sure. i started out at the very beginning of how this all transpired. it started with a posting on social media of high school students saying they were going to have a purge, a play on the movie "the purge," was which a 24-hour time of lawlessness and they were going to converge at a mall in west baltimore. that indeed happened around 3:00 p.m. students and police confronted each other there. the police were ready for that because they did intercept that message earlier in the day. by the time i got there around 3:20 bricks were being hurled at police officers.
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the crowds began to swell on both sides. police officers came in with reinforcements. students from other schools, and i say students because even the police officer have confirmed they did confront mostly school-aged kids and really it was just an intense hour-long, little more than hour-long exchange, where the police were trying to hold lines and move students back and kids back and probably residents to side streets of the neighborhood. i did witness an officer severely injured, that came as a result of an exchange of bricks and other things between the residents and the police. the police did start to return the bricks being thrown at them. >> let me ask you about that for a second. you were right there on the front lines. >> i was right there.
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>> i saw some of what you posted at "the sun" and they have made great use of your imagery. but what you saw was people throwing bricks and broken bricks and rocks at police and in some cases police throwing them back at the protesters. but this officer who you saw injured, it looked like he was struck in the head. did you see him get injured or just the aftermath once he was hurt? >> it looked like he was struck in the head. what i captured was his comrades carrying him back away from the front line where i assume he was when he was struck. it was on that side street right before the officer was brought out that the police began to return the bricks. of course i did not see exactly what he was hit with but i mean bricks and glass littered the streets.
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and so yeah i'm going to assume it was brick. he was struck by something that really bloodied him up. >> what's striking about that report particularly because you saw it firsthand as a reporter is that you don't expect police to be throwing bricks. the police have talked about the fact that they are willing to be tactically aggressive willing to use pepper pellets, they're willing to use rubber bullets, we've seen them using gas today. but if they're throwing things back, that implies to me that the police feel -- that the police are a little out of control, or they may not be using disciplined police tactics. >> what i will say is that i watched the police -- this is just what i saw. what i watched the police have things hurled at them for a very long time, and they didn't do anything.
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i mean i have it on video. they definitely returned, you know, they definitely threw things back. but i would just say that given what i saw, i mean, these kids have no fear. so i was very surprised that things didn't escalate more quickly. i'm not going to say they're out of control, that's for people to decide. but i will say things were thrown at them for a very long time before they got frustrated. i think it may have been the sight of their fellow officer being pulled out that way that may have incited that. i don't know. >> we are keeping an eye on the live shots tonight in terms of what you expect over the course of tonight. we saw these very plaintiff calls from the police and local officials, because so many people were school age, people saying parents, find your children and bring them home. if you are an adult and able
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body, get out there and put yourselves between the kids and these police and calm this down. do you expect this will calm down tonight? >> it's 9:30. the curfew is at 10:00 and it's showing no signs. >> erica green, really appreciate you being here. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> in the midst of the reporting or the rioting today in baltimore, actually during the funeral for freddie gray in north west baltimore today, which was followed earlier this afternoon by those riots, while the funeral was happening today in baltimore, 38 miles away at the u.s. capitol, the u.s. attorney general of the united states was being sworn in. loretta lynch today becomes only the second woman to hold the job
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of attorney general after janet reno. only the second african-american to hold the job of attorney general after eric holder. she's obviously the first african-american woman to ever hold the job. it turns out that her first day on the job, in fact her first hour on the job, started almost within earshot of these terrible riots in the streets of baltimore. loretta lynch's justice department is already committed to looking into the freddie gray case specifically to see if it merits civil rights charges. today, the very first statement that she issued was on the subject of these riots.
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>> her first statement at attorney general today. today's split screen news of loretta lynch being sworn in as attorney general and these riots in the vote less than an hour away showed how quickly today she got out of the confirmation frying pan and into the fire of what it means to hold her very important new job. we do not know if she will go to baltimore the way eric holder traveled to ferguson. but one person who is going to baltimore is the reverend al sharpton. today, the mayor of baltimore was asked about that. >> anyone who wants to add to the calls for peace in our city is welcome. if reverend sharpton wants to come, if parents want to
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encourage their children to act within the law, anybody that wants to be a part of sending that message, i welcome it. >> joining us now is the reverend al sharpton. great to see you. >> great to be here. >> you heard the mayor tonight saying that she welcomes any intervention that will bring peace to baltimore. what do you intend to do? what do you think needs to happen next? >> well reverend west and some of the activists called on me this morning to come in and i said i would -- we have a chapter that works there who have been on the ground in the protests since this happened to freddie gray. one of the things that we have to stress is if the objective is justice and changing the accountability of law enforcement, we cannot do it in violent way or becoming like what we are fighting. this goes through the history of the civil rights movement.
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many people forget 50 years ago, yes, we had the edmond pettis bridge, but we also had the riots. so a lot of people that romanticize the civil rights era, don't want to acknowledge, even in dr. king's days when watts was burning. you always have had people acting in a way that ends up adding more than it is solving the problem. and it's usually police incidents that bring this on. when people feel they have no way of redress with law enforcement, they explode. that is not to excuse it or rationalize it. but that is the reality. i would want to work with them to show what works and what doesn't. the priority must be change and
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accountability, as well as let's not forget this family that suffered the loss. on the day they buried their son, they have to deal with this kind of violence that they don't want their son to be a symbol of. these are the things i want to communicate. the other thing that is important with the attorney general being sworn in todday this attorney general when he was a attorney here in prosecute, prosecuted the police. i was very much involved in that movement. she put those police -- one of those plifolice is still in jail tonight. so you have one that has a record that says yes, if the evidence is there. no if it's not. so it's an opportunity to have a new tone set at the justice
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department if they move forward, because ms. lynch has credibility in that area. but i think at the end of the day, the anger and frustration, many of us share and understand it. but the bottom line is we want to see change not just to vent an emotional reaction. people calming down and nothing changes. yes, we need calm but we need for real peace. there's a difference between peace and quiet. quiet means shut up and suffer. peace means let us learn to calmly deal with these situations but deal with them we must. >> nationwide, people are very used to turning to you and expecting to hear from you as an activist, as a national activist on those issues when there is a family that needs somebody who knows how to articulate their concerns and turn them to a constructive purpose. i think the country sort of e
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expects that from you. what is less known about what you do is that in these circumstances, very frequently you are there to try to turn otherwise potentially violent or violent anger into activism. how do you do that? looking at the streets of baltimore tonight, watching these fires burn looking at this escalating thing and all these young kids out there today, how do you with your national profile make calm with people? >> one is you work with the people that's on the ground who they trust and know. we get attacked by a lot of the youngsters and a lot of the older people. but you take that in order to say okay fine you don't trust this, you don't like this. but now how do we solve the problem so there's not another fred gray?
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when you go through the litany of situations that you outlined so well tonight, you understand what people nationwide are saying. wait a minute every region of the country has a police situation now. a lot of it because now we're videoing. a lot of it people were hold that i was hallucinating these things and we were making them up. people are seeing it now and people are saying something must be done. we're facing a national crisis and denigrating activists and the overwhelming majority of people that have march, and in the cases are been peaceful. to blame them when someone steps out of line is not the answer. the answer is let's deal with the problem. obviously the system of accountability is broken. it needs to be fixed. >> 245r89.that's right. people feel like they haven't been heard and --
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>> we can't increase the brokenness and violence increases the brokenness. fix means we have to step back from violence and say, wait a minute, if a police officer is out of order, he should be held accountable. it's got to work both ways. but violence only in my opinion, makes it worse and adds to the victim of the victim. >> reverend al sharpton leader of the national action network, thank you. >> thank you. >> >> as the clashes between rioters and police in baltimore were escalating this afternoon as police were being pelted with rocks and other objects, a nows chopper caught this footage of what appeared to be officers rushing an injured colleague away from the fray. several officers had been injured, including police officers having broken bones and one officer they described as
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nonresponsive, as unconscious. by this evening, the number of injured officers were at 15. the chief did not go into detail on the injuries but said they were in large part caused by flying debris. what we still do not have is how many civilian injuries there are. but that sends to be the number you don't get, if ever, at least until a long time down the road. joining us now is neil franklin. he spent over two decades with the maryland state police. he's been out on the streets of baltimore today. thank you very much for your time tonight. pleasure to have you here. >> rachel, thanks for having me on tonight. >> we are told that there will be a curfew put in place as of tomorrow night in baltimore. we've seen these protests escalate over the day. the national guard will be
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joining the policing effort. from your experience and what you know about baltimore, what do you think is the best strategy for law enforcement to respond to a situation like this one? >> well i think with what you see now is the course of action to take. obviously we need resources in people. the governor has made that available. we have local law enforcement from many other jurisdictions joining in tonight. right behind baltimore county police department has assembled and are ready to go. that's where the baltimore police department was at a disadvantage earlier today when i don't think many people expected the level of violence the level of action that occurred at the mall in northwest baltimore. once police started deploying, it was a little difficult to deploy the number of officers needed to bring that under control. as long as that took things got out of hand.
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now we have the numbers of law enforcement personnel, boots on the ground as we would say, a assembled and in place and i think you're going to see us get a handle on this issue. we will get through this. we will get through tonight. we will get through tomorrow and the rest of this week. my concern is where do we go from there to prevent this from happening again? if we don't solve the systemic issues of policing and the criminal justice system we're going to be back here again and again and again. >> what we saw today from the police officers in the street were some tactical decisions that they talked about and some decisions that they didn't. there was at least one incident which police picked up broken bricks and threw them back 589 the protesters. we did also see police use nonlethal projectiles of various
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kinds and tactical and up-armored vehicles. the adjutant general of the maryland national guard said there will be up-armored humvees on the street tonight. is there -- as the police response starts to become more of a military response and starts to look more like a military response, is there a possibility that creates a more militant attitude among the protesters? >> it's possible but you're going to have to expect that appearance. i say the appearance of a military response. i don't think you're going to see the things that we saw in ferguson. you're not going to see that here in baltimore. obviously, the police officers have to have the equipment, the vehicles available to protect themselves. some of these rocks are literally bricks being thrown at them. as they deploy and move from one
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place to another, they need protection. for example, when one of the vans pulled into the location at the mall carrying extra police officers to be deployed someone hurled a brick through the back window of this van. so you are going to need those vehicles to move police officers safely and others, civilian citizens, in and out only some of these problematic areas. there's not much of a choice now. we have to get control of the city again, and we've got to do it quickly. the messages are being sent out i'm so glad to see the clergy in the city take to the streets, gathering other men to take control of their neighborhoods. we need that. we need the mayor's office, city hall and we need to continue
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reserve of these police officers that have been put in a very tough place. >> noel franklin, veteran officer with the maryland state police, thank you for your time tonight. i appreciate it. >> thank you, rachel. >> on saturday night, during the ninth inning of the baltimore orioles-boston red sox game in baltimore, this was the message that flashed on the jumbo tron in center field. due to an ongoing public safety issue, all fans are asked to remain inside the ballpark until further notice. thank you. that was the jumbo tron in the 9th inning of the game the time most fans were thinking about going home. but the baltimore police locked everybody inside. they closed the gates to the baseball stadium and would not allow anybody to leave. that was because of what was going on outside of the stadium that night. what began as peaceful protests in baltimore on saturday turned into a night of violent clashes.
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those protests on saturday lasted until late into the night. six officers incurred minor injuries. about three dozen arrests on saturday night. this is what appeared on the camden yards jumbo tron earlier today. your attention, please. after consultation with the baltimore city police department, tonight's game has been postponed. they called off the game. the city of baltimore, beyond just a baseball team, has effectively been shut down over the street protests and fires and looting that began this afternoon after the funeral for freddie gray. those protests have continued late into the night tonight. a 10:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. curfew is due to go in effect tomorrow. joining us now is city councilman nick moseby. councilman, thank you very much for joining us. i appreciate your time. >> thanks for having me on
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rachel. >> how are things in district seven tonight? how are things in the streets of the part of baltimore that you represent? what do you think is going to happen tonight? >> so the actual arrest and all the incidents leading up to the untimely death of mr. gray took place in my district as well as the majority of the protests. and tonight, a lot of the pictures that you guys are seeing of the rioting and looting. this is just one small glimpse of all that's been taking place over the last two weeks. it's been an amazing time for young folks in baltimore who feel disenfranchised, they feel without a voice. a lot of them stood tall and exercised their voice in the right way. the unproductive violence we saw today is one small snippet of it. but the majority of the time they were very strong and very passionate and unfortunately this is going to overshadow all
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of the work that they've done today. >> in terms of what you are expecting as a city leader and what you are hearing from mayor, law enforcement, other authorities that are trying to respond to the state of emergency that's been called, the activation of the national guard potentially, there will be thousands of national guards men and women on the streets. not martial law. how do you feel about that response? >> rachel, i have a low complex start around that. actually i just left west baltimore where a group of probably two to 300 men walked the community and really brought calm and allowed the police officers to leave. i understand and know that at the end of the day that violence is not acceptable anywhere. it's critically important that we develop ways of calming down our communities. and unfortunately, we might need
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some tactical assistance in doing so. how we grow from here how we heal our communities is really about the relationships with these young folks. they're living out the sins from generations ago. unfortunately, you know, they're doing it in a way -- undereducated in a way that's more violent as opposed to being intellectual about it. they're begging for our help. tonight is not acceptable. however, this should be a wakeup call. this is an urban america thing. it's critically important that in these communities that are social, economically depressed, that we provide real opportunities for these young adults. that's where the actions you're seeing tonight. again, it's not acceptable. it should not go without corrected.
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i want to lay out to your audience, this is bigger than freddie gray. >> in terms of trying to bridge that generational divide you're talking about, it has been striking to see those protests today kickoff basically when school got out to hear the police and local authorities say that these are school-aged kids. some of the people arrested were juveniles. to hear the cries today that parents should find their children and get them home. you're a young man yourself councilman. talking to reverend sharpton he was talking about the criticism that he has felt that he's too old to be connecting with young people who are so concerned here. do you feel like there's a constructive dialogue between adults and the young people who are so fired up? >> i think unfortunately we do not allow their voices to be
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heard in a way. when you're dealing with a population who has been failed by the educational system unfortunately, they don't necessarily know how to articulate themselves in the right manner. this movement that started in a very productive manner provided them the opportunity for that voice. unfortunately, through the frustration we've seen tonight, that voice was done in a way that was violence. again, you know, we have to correct it. but this is a call to action. at the end of the day, all change begins with our youth. that's the history of this country. that's where i hope to organize. that's where i hope we can mobilize some of the young brothers we've been talking to on the streets. we hugged them, we loved them. we told them to stop the violence. now we have to build on that. it's all about relationships.
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unfortunately, we didn't proactively have the relationships to get in front of this and that's why we're on national tv from a negative perspective. >> councilman thank you for your time tonight. good luck with your constituents on this. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> he represents the district where a lot of the protests have been tonight, it was also where the arrest was of mr. gray. joining us now is joel anderson. joel's a senior national reporter from buzz feed news. thanks very much for joining us. appreciate your time. >> thanks for having me. >> can you give me some sense of what you've seen? one of the things we're trying to figure out with this curfew going into effect tomorrow it's unclear what that's going to mean tonight. whether this is likely to be an all-night thing. >> it's really hard to predict.
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at times, the protests -- the people out on the streets are gaining momentum that there's going to be a larger conflict. all of a sudden as soon as that energy builds it sort of dissipates. so it's really tough to know. i got here around 3:00, and it seemed really really dangerous. i thought there was going to be chaos all afternoon long. right now, it seems like it's sort of calmed down a bit. >> in terms of the injuries today, one of the things that happens on reporting on incidents like this you get specific information about injuries to police officer. we were told on saturday night that six police officers incurred minor injuries. we were told today that 15 officers were injured. two seriously enough that they were still hospitalized tonight. tons of concerns for those
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officers. also, though there's concern about the level of violence out on the streets and whether or not civilians and protestors themselves are being injured. did you see any of that? >> you didn't see a lot of that. there were not a lot of protestors or people in the street that got hurt. it certainly feels like there's the potential for that to go around. people throwing bottles out there, people breaking into stores. there's chaos around one store and you don't know what's going to happen. i haven't seen a lot of injuries out in the streets tonight. certainly it's at that break going into tomorrow you might start to see more of that and see more reports of that. >> about the interventions that the councilman was describing in terms of respecting members of the community in particular, men in the community stepping up to be a calming influence. did you see evidence of that today? >> oh, absolutely. a lot of the older residents
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were definitely trying to step in. prevent confrontation with the firefighters putting out fires. they're some of the most people that are the most frustrated right now. so yeah, they're definitely trying to reach out to some of these kids. getting mixed results from that but they're definitely trying to you know calm some of this anger down. >> joel anderson, thanks very much appreciate it? >> thanks for having me. >> well, you are looking at what we've got now in terms of images from baltimore area today. riots and looting did break out on the streets. they have seen days of mostly peaceful protests over the death of freddie gray. after something happened to him in police custody which put him in a coma and ultimately killed him. the governor of the state of
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maryland, larry hogan, has been on the job for 90 days. he called a state of emergency in the state of maryland. he said it does not mean that the military will be taking control. they will be operating in a support environment for the police, but it will be military personnel with military vehicles out on the streets of baltimore. the mayor of baltimore order add occur fie from 10:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. starting tomorrow. the mayor of baltimore says that will last one week. if you're under the age of 14 it will be a curfew that starts an hour earlier at 9:00 p.m. the police chief in baltimore says 15 officers have been injured. one reported to be unresponsive and unconscious. these protests game after the funeral was held earlier today for freddie gray. he suffered a severe spinal cord injury during or immediately
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after being arrested by baltimore police. that church was packed with mourners, plus standing room filled plus an outflow to the outside of the church. elijah cummings of maryland delivered a speech promising justice for freddie gray. >> i've often said that our children are the living messages we send to a fuj we will never see. but now our children are sending us to a future they will never see. there's something wrong with that picture. and so family it is our watch. we are the adults. we are the ones who are passing through. and for me, i'm in the twilight years. but i am telling you, we will not rest, we will not rest until
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we address this and see that justice is done. we will not rest. >> democratic maryland congressman elijah cummings. we're told he joined a group of 200 to 300 baltimore men who walked through the streets of those neighborhoods calling for peace. we continue now with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> thank you. we're going to continue our live coverage. thank you. the death toll in nepal is over 4,000 tonight after saturday's earthquake earthquake, but here at home, all eyes are on baltimore today after a day of rock throwing at police looting, burning a police car and a store. it's just been announced tomorrow baltimore city schools will be closed. >> we are deploying every resource possible to gain control of the situation and to ensure peace