>> erica green, who has done phenomenal reporting for the baltimore sun, thank you, i really appreciate it. all right, that is it for "all in," rachel maddow is next. live. good evening, rachel. we are live right now. i want to welcome you back to our continuing coverage of the rioting in baltimore tonight and the reaction to t baltimore is in a declared state of emergency. maryland governor larry hogan has declared a state of emergency, has activated the national guard. that means up to 5,000 national guards men and women. up to 5,000 military personnel could be among the law enforcement presence trying to restore order. that means military vehicles military gear including military weapons. baltimore mayor stephanie rawlings-blake has called for a curfew starting phenomenon.

nobody will be allowed on the streets between 10:00 in the evening until 5:00 in the morning unless you have a medical emergency or you are on your way to work. baltimore also announced that schools will be closed tomorrow. and on the one hand that makes sense. on the other hand, that is going to pose a real conundrum for some parents. if you're a parent of school-aged kids in baltimore and you can't get time off work with this late notice, if you can't get time off work, so you have to go to work and you don't want your school-aged kids to be unsupervised all day tomorrow in this environment, what do you do with your kids now that the schools are going to be closed all day tomorrow. it was when school let out that the violence and looting started this afternoon after the funeral of freddie gray freddie gray was arrested and loaded into a

police van. by the time he got out of the police van he had a nearly severed spine and the crushed voice box. although baltimore has had peaceful protests since then many people in baltimore have been calling for peace, even putting themselves between police officers and the enraged public public, we have seen people throw rocks and bricks at police officers, and police responded with some of the same bricks and with projectiles and tear gas. 15 officers were hurt in today's clashes. most of them minor injuries, but two injured seriously enough that they are still hospitalized tonight. in just the last hour we have heard from the family of freddie gray and the family's supporters. they've been calling for an end to violence. the family's lawyer spoke about

the ongoing investigations into mr. gray's death. >> we don't want to rush to justice. we don't want that. we want justice. we want accurate fact finding, no matter how long it takes, as long as it doesn't get stretched out unreasonably. we want to know all the details of this investigation so that we can decide as a community what to do next. we're not interested in prejudging the situation. >> the lawyer for freddie gray's family speaking late tonight. we also heard in the last hour from the mayor of baltimore, stephanie rawlings-blake. watch. >> with respect to how do we get to order, let's be clear, you know. the council president and i share the frustration of the negative images that are being shown of our great city but best belief we're going to use

all of those images to hold the individuals who are destroying our city accountable. so once people start getting arrested for the looting, for the dedestruction, they will understand this is not a lawless city. and the thugs and the, you know i'm at a loss for words. it is idiotic to think that by destroying your city that you're going to make life better for anybody. >> mayor of baltimore speaking tonight, saying baltimore is not a lawless city. she also then later tonight gave a more impromptu press conference in which she said we will bring order to chaos. we will bring justice. speaking with reporters, as she was out in the treatstreets at the site of a fire that we've been seeing throughout the night.

that fire that we've been seeing, a very large three-alarm fire in east baltimore. that fire is under investigation. it's still unclear whether or not that fire is connected to the riots in baltimore or whether it is a coincidence that it broke out while there is unrest in the city. also the police commissioner made remarks. he expects all the officers injured in today's protests to fully recover. there had been honestly there had been rumors that some of the officers that had been hurt or at least one had been hurt gravely enough that his life was potentially threatened. the commissioner speaking a few moments ago saying that he does expect all the injured officers to recover. joining us now is frank thorp who's been on the ground in baltimore all day. he showed a lot of the foot andage we've been able to show. >> thanks for having me. >> a lot of it has been how the

people protesting and rioting were such a young group. if they were young people it's raising lots of questions for what it means tomorrow with schools being closed and the curfew being imposed at 10:00 for everybody. 9:00 for people under the age of 14. was it mostly teenagers who were in the real fray with the police officers? >> reporter: yeah the majority of folks that seemed to be out protesting today or causing trouble did seem to be juveniles. the streets were pretty packed which makes it make sense that they're actually going to implement this curfew tomorrow but the majority of people who were either around the cars that were burning or in the businesses that were being looted did seem to be younger, younger people. and the older people that were out there seemed to be trying to talk these younger people down. they seemed to be trying to say, hey, this is counter-productive.

this isn't what we should be doing. i spoke to one woman who said burning down that cvs is not what they should be doing. that's not the way they should be enacting change by burning down businesses. they can protest, but by destroying parts of their city that's counter-productive. it is a lot of juveniles, but the police commissioner did say that they're confident that the additional resources that they're going to have tomorrow once they get the national guard will help in making sure that tomorrow is not as intense as today is. >> in terms of what to expect tomorrow obviously, that is go being to be the big change. we are going to see an influx of national guard troops out in the streets, and that means it will be not just a militarized policing presence there. it will actually be the military, with humvees and military weapons and military uniforms and everything that psychologically entails for the people who will want to be protesting in that environment.

prank frank, did it seem to you that the police were outnumbered, that they were outflanked that simply a larger number of personnel on the streets would have made a difference? >> reporter: it did. it did seem they were outflanked and it seemed that they decided to cede ground. i was driving with our security officer there, and there was looting happening on one corner, looting happening on another corner. there was a car on fire next door. and there was no cops anywhere near, nearby. so they had really decided, it almost seemed like a conscious desiscision to let this go tonight, let these folks do this trouble and then tomorrow really come in and implement some rule of law. but at the same time like i said we were seeing that we were at one corner in particular where there was a business being looted on one corner adjacent

there was an adjacent business being looted. but there was also a group of people sweeping and they were like show us sweeping. show us cleaning up these roads, because they want to be able to show that it's not everybody doing this. it's not everybody that's destroying the city. it's not everybody that's burning the cars down. it's not everybody that's looting these businesses. there are people trying to restore order. >> frank thorp, nbc news producer. i know it's been a really long day for you. thanks very much. appreciate having you here. >> reporter: nangs you. >> freddie gray's death last weekend after falling into a coma from something yet unexplained, that is the proximate cause of what blew up in the streets of baltimore today and tonight. but it is also just the latest in the string of police violence cases that have not just affected the communities involved, they have blown up into a national crisis about police violence and how

communities respond to police violence and difficult questions about police tacktics and police strategy around communities of color, especially when police forces themselves are not demographically representative of the communities. can you almost put a marker on august 9, 2014 the police shooting of michael brown who was 18 years old and unarmed when he was killed by a police officer in ferguson missouri. michael brown's death led to weeks of protests over late last summer. in november, a grand jury cleared the officer who shot michael brown of all charges in conjunction with that killing. they decided not to indict that officer, and during the protests, local businesses in ferguson, missouri were burned to the ground. another man, eric garner he died after police put him in a chokehold while they were arresting him for selling loose cigarettes. he actually died a few weeks

before michael brown was shot, but the protests in ferguson seemed to amplify the response to his police-involved people protested about what happened to garner. and when it was decided not to indict the officers the protests started again. not just in new york but around the cuntry country for eric garner. meanwhile, police responded to a report about a 12 year old. he had been playing with a realistic looking pellet gun. within a blink of pulling up to him, one of the officers responding to that call shot and killed that 12-year-old boy. no one has been charged in tamir rice's killing. in february it was suburban madison, alabama when somebody reported a stranger walking through the neighbor. patel was a grandfather in the neighborhood visiting his family.

one of the officers slammed him to the ground so brutally it left him paralyzed. that officer was charged with third degree assault and felony civil rights abuse. a man was shot who had been throwing rocks at him. seemed to be having some sort of episode. they shot the man, 17 times, as he ran away from them. nobody's been charged in that incident. last month, in michigan there was a man named floyd dent who said he was pulled over and badly beaten by police and left with a fractured eye sokt and broken ribs. in that inkster case the charge against mr. dent was erased. we got video of the officers appearing to spray floyd dent's blood off their clothes.

exchanging fist bumps, celebrating how well that arrest went and an attorney says that his client was still lying there needing medical attention out of the view of the camera as the officers celebrated blew off steam and reenacted a little bit of the arrest for each other. the beginning of this month brought news of the shooting death of unarmed walter scott in south carolina. that began with a traffic stop and ended with a police officer shooting mr. scott multiple times. as mr. scott ran away from him across a vacant lot. the officer in that case has been charged with murder. and as the nation was observing that news oh, look there's more. word came from tulsa, oklahoma that someone holding the title of reserve deputy had shot and killed the suspect in an undercover drug sting. this reserve deputy was a 73-year-old insurance executive. he meant to draw his taser but

mistakingly pulled his gun out and shot him fatally. he had been a long-time donor to the sheriff's department. it was reported that training record also been falsified for mr. bates so allegedly he appeared to be qualified for certain duties when he was not. he pled guilty to a charge of manslaughter in that case. and then the judge in the case allowed him to go to the bahamas for a family vacation before anything else happened. today in tulsa, a top official in the sheriff's department resigned once an internal memo surfaced which showed him to ask staffers to modify that officers records about training. he stepped down today in tulsa. but meanwhile, the tulsa sheriff's department inebs plikably released undercover video showing the man killed by the deputy in the days leading

up to the day that they killed him. the video shows eric harris selling drugs to an undercover officer. he makes an arrangement to sell the undercover officer a gun. they released that video because the media had asked for it which could conceivably be true if anybody had known it existed. but it's totally irrelevant to the fact that that man was shot days later by a tulsa reserve deputy. and it also looks like a lot what happened in ferguson missouri last summer when the ferguson police chief released video of michael brown from a convenience store. tape of a totally unrelated incident which made michael brown look terrible which happened before he was killed and did not involve the officer who shot him. the police chief said he had to release it because the media had been clamoring for that tape. he couldn't continue to withhold

it though in ferguson there doesn't appear to be any record at all that anybody asked to see that tape. so we've been living the story over and over right? month after month. shooting after chokehold after beating. this timeline i just did is by no means complete. you pick a calendar month in the last year or so. google around and up pops a story and now increasingly a video of police violence most often involving an unarmed man who is not white. day after day, season after season city after city after city and now baltimore. what we are seeing in this latest american city is the latest local manifestation of what is turning out to be a national crisis it began earlier this month with the arrest of freddie gray on april 12. we have video of that. you may have seen it already. i'm not going to play it over and over again as background material. it is difficult to watch, but this is april 12.

>> ah! [ bleep ] ah! >> walk! >> they tased the [ bleep ] out of him like that. >> ah! >> i been recording this [ bleep ]. i been recording. i been recording. what car he come out, yo? don't worry about it. don't worry about it. >> the officers who arrested freddie gray on april 12 said that he saw them and took off running. and that's why they gave chase and ended up stopping him. they arrested him. they loaded him into that police van. as you saw in the tape he seems to be screaming in pain as they put him into the van. whatever happened next, whatever happened over the next 45 minutes, freddie gray emerged from that van with his spinal cord nearly severed. his voice box crushed. one theory is that the baltimore

police may have given him a rough ride where they leave a suspect handcuffed but not buckled in at all. and they stomp on the accelerator, stomp on the brakes and whip the van around so the person goes flying. more than one person has ended up paralyzed that way in baltimore before freddie gray. but freddie gray ended up paralyzed and in a coma. one week later he died. in the days since his death, baltimore saw a string of mostly peaceful protests. these people came out chanting in the streets, black lives matter. larger protests on saturday did include some violence. 35 people were arrested in the saturday protest. six police officers were injured. but mostly city authorities were able to keep the peace without using force and without taking too many people into custody. this is how the mayor of baltimore described things on saturday night. >> we've had these types of conversations before.

and i've made it very clear that i work with the police and instructed them to do everything that they could to make sure that the protesters were able to ebser size their right to free speech. it's a very delicate balancing act, because while we try to make sure that they were presented from the cars and the other, you know things that were going on we also gave those who wished to destroy, space to do that as well. and we work very hard to keep that balance and to put ourselves in the best position to de-escalate. and that's what you saw this evening. >> that was baltimore mayor stephanie rawlings-blake speaking saturday about the protests then. the mayor and the police chief and freddie gray's family and local leaders all called for calm called for peace. today they buried freddie gray. there have been calls for people

not to protest on this day, the day of his funeral, same kind of calls we've seen in other stories like this. mr. gray's funeral began in the late morning. they buried him in baltimore. the church is near schools, near a large mall in northwest baltimore. when school let out today, this happened. local leaders on the ground today in baltimore say these clashes began when schools let out and school kids flooded onto the streets. whatever part of this might have been a peaceful protest, people also set cars on fire smashed a police cruiser looted stores hurled things at police who responded with rubber bulleting and hurling projectiles back at protesters. among the 15 officers injured, one was reported to be unconscious, nonresponsive. two officer we're told remain notice hospital tonight. the governor has declared a state of emergency and has activated the maryland national

guard. the city curfew will be in effect for a week starting tomorrow at 10:00 in the evening. the schools will be closed in baltimore tomorrow. and even as the looting continued until late tonight, the mayor tonight pledged to restore order in baltimore. mayor stephanie rawlings-blake saying she was heartbroken by the destruction, heartbroken by the burning of stores where people in the neighborhood shopped and worked. and as we've seen in other cities that have gone through this there is a call out tonight for people to plan for tomorrow morning to show up and clean up tomorrow morning from the riots tonight. we're going to post a link to that. we've got much more to come. please do stay with us. happy anniversary dinner, darlin' i'm messing up every dish, pot, and plate... ...to show my love.

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it was april 4, 1968 when of course martin luther king, junior was assassinated outside his hotel room in memphis, tennessee. there were riots across the country including in baltimore, maryland.

for a series of eight days. hundreds of people were injured. 1,000 businesses were burned down or looted. 1,000 fires were set. the governor of maryland at the time, spiro agnew, the city of baltimore is a different place but is seeing rage in the streets again. and national guard in the streets again. in response to the rioting today, the governor of maryland, larry hogan has declared a state of emergency, and he did tonight activate the national guard. >> we know how hard people work to be able to have the city that we know and love and to watch a group of criminals go through our city with an intent to destroy, what does that solve? i understand anger.

but what we're seeing isn't anger. it's destruction of a community, the same community they say they care about, they're destroying. you can't have it both ways. >> that was baltimore mayor stephanie rawlings-blake speaking there. with us is a councilman. >> thanks for having me on. >> it looks like the city is a little quieter now than it was this afternoon and in the earlier part of the evening. do you think people are tired out? do you think that there's stuff going on that we don't know about? or do you think things may be calming. >> i think it's the middle thing. it's a lot of stuff that you guys have no idea. it started all out in central west baltimore, my district. but unfortunately, it's continued to spread in different

areas throughout the city, and even going into baltimore county. >> in terms of the mayor's response tonight, she's saying this is a small group of criminals responsible for the violence tonight, violence which obviously doesn't solve anything. nobody's fighting her on that. but there does seem to be some disagreement as to whether or not this is outsiders who aren't from these neighborhoods who are taking advantage of the situation in order to just be destructive or whether this is an uprising that is community based, that is people who are rising up in their own community, expressing their own rage maybe not in a constructive way. >> violence never brings justice. you know, we saw earlier today that's continued to grow and spill out in other parts of the city is young folks. and i do not condone or prove anything that they have done. however, you know, a lot of these folks, a lot of these young folks feel completely

disenfranchised. completely disconnected. and 95% of the protests have been positive and productive. and unfortunately we've seen on saturday night and now tonight and today some unproductive and violent acts. it's really the children crying out. these children are from abject poverty, from areas that haven't gotten the type of representation in the education system. they feel hopeless. they got part of the movement, they got excited, but they really feel like there's no hope for them tomorrow. and unfortunately, this is their voice, the voice is destruction. the voice is anger. so one, they must stop. and we have to develop the tactical solutions to make that stop. but in order to heal our city we have to figure out how to get to our children. at the end of the day, you know, when we're raised and born up, you know, our parents tell us you can be whatever you want to be in life. but unfortunately, we know that's not always true, depending on the area code and zip code that you come from.

i'm not saying that folks can't overcome things. i'm not saying that folks can't be different than the environments they grow up in, yet we know the challenges that these children face on a daily basis. unfortunately, with the lack of education that some of them might have, their communication is in violence. it's not in intellectual. the systemic policies that have plagued urban america, not just in baltimore but all throughout this country, that's what the culmination is. a lot of people want to tie it to freddie gray. freddie gray was the last straw for some of these children that want everyone to feel their pain. >> talking so eloquently there councilman about the perspective of kids and teenagers in your district and in west baltimore, what do you think's going to happen tomorrow with schools being closed?

it puts a lot of families in a difficult situation, particularly if parents are in a place where they can't get time off in short notice. i can imagine being the parent of a west baltimore teenager and not wanting my child to be unsupervised and on his or her own in this environment when there's been so many kids in these situations today, but what's going to happen with the schools closed tomorrow. what do you expect with the kids at west baltimore. >> imagine if you are the parent of a first grader. it throws off the day. i'm not sure how that adds into a productive day. what we've done is basically for the folks who are causing the destruction, who are causing the violence, we've basically given them the day off. and for the children who are not participating, who decided not to but maybe decide to tomorrow, their parents have to go to work. i don't understand the calculations behind that particular decision. and, you know, unfortunately, it's a time now that folks are being tested.

i mean, at the end of the day, it's not like there's a playbook for this type of situation. i don't think we've seen a major urban city grow up in, go up in flames in the way we've seen baltimore since the '60s. and i think there's been a lot of scrambling, a lot of trying to develop policies and procedures on the fly. and unfortunately, it appears that we weren't prepared for it the way we should have been. city councilman nick mosby. thank you. >> thank you so much, rachel. joining us now is my friend ben jealous, a partner at capehart capital. thinking about the nitty gritty decisions, is there a template for good decision making by local leaders in times like this? >> what we know is just some basic facts. we know that in most cities, most of the mischief is done by

kids between 3:00 and 6:00. >> at first i thought you meant between 3-year-olds and 6-year-olds, i thought, those tyrants! >> i know, i've got one. but when you expand that to the whole day and you make things much harder. at the same time, we also know that the folks in the guard may be good soldiers, but they're not experienced at keeping the peace in a city, in our country, in a civilian context. so you have folks who are not very experienced at being cops being brought in with military weapons. you have young people who would be in school who often of them many see their teachers more waking hours than they see their parents, who could be left home by themselves. it's easy to say this may not be the best set of decisions for peace in the city. i think the counselman made a very good point. >> i don't envy baltimore mayor, city council or the school district any of the decisions

they have to make right now this what is a scary situation. to the councilman's point, he says we weren't ready, we were making decisions on the fly and maybe they weren't all great. but you have tried to shepherd a number of communities through unrest and anger. are there best practices? >> certainly. you don't add tinder to the fire. and you don't pour gasoline. the fear is if you're putting more young people out on the street in the midst of a motion like this, the curfew doesn't go into effect until 10:00 in the evening, but the parents leave the house at 7:00 notice morning. you may be bringing in tinder. you may be pouring gas when you add the national guard. and people who are inexperienced and from further outside the community. i think where the sense is coming right now is from people closest to the ground. when you see the clergy calling and saying, let's get out in the streets in our own community, and let's take it back.

when you see calls happening as they're happening right now between clergies, let's open our churches tomorrow so kids have a place to go. >> that's happening tonight? >> yes. and that's the kind of steps that you need. >> and that may be building blocks to not just the symptom but the community building to solve the greater problem. >> quite frankly, there's the opportunity here to really acknowledge. it's too easy to say that these are criminals or thugs. >> outsiders. >> these are our kids. you know, the congressman before he was 19 had been picked up more than a dozen times. could you have called him a criminal. he was a future congressman. we've got to acknowledge a truth. my family has lived in west baltimore for 80 years. my grandfather was a juvenile probation officer in the western district for more than 30 years.

my cousin was on the force. and the reality is that we've seen law enforcement degrade over the last 30 years in baltimore in some pretty profound ways. and there's an opportunity here for us to say, look, these are all of our kids. let us treat them as if they are all of our kids. the real issue here, you have a whole bunch of folks who feel trapped, who feel concerned that their kids are going to have worse opportunities than they had. and theirs haven't been great. let's offer more jobs to people who live in the heart of west baltimore. we have people here who feel like the cops focus on what they are, poor, black, and not who they are. let's figure out how to get the cops out of the cars, just like we did in los angeles after the riots, right, because other cities have burned in the last 40 years. >> yeah. >> and let's change the dynamic. what's happening tomorrow, i think, cause all of us for concern.

what people should be doing is saying how can i help? what can my church do? what can i do? how do i convince my boss not to fire me so i can stay home, not just for my kids but the other parents on the block. that's what's most beautiful about west baltimore that in many ways it's a community where folks still care. historically leadership has come out of the holmes housing project, out of pulaski street. and folks may have moved out to ashburton but they can come out to the heart of west baltimore. >> i would make a modest plea that any employers who have employees with kids, tomorrow is an impromptu take your kid to workday. >> what i've said to my staff tomorrow, we're all going to the church and we're all going to help out because that's where we need to help out. we can handle investments or next week.

>> ben jealous, it is great to see you. we have much more to come, including a report from richard engle about rescue efforts following the earthquake in nepal, incredible footage. we'll be right back. stay with us. oh, i love game night. ooh, it's a house and a car! so far, you're horrible at this, flo. yeah, no talent for drawing, flo. house! car! oh, raise the roof! no one? remember when we used to raise the roof, diane? oh, quiet, richard i'm trying to make sense of flo's terrible drawing. i'll draw the pants off that thing. oh, oh, hats on hamburgers! dancing! drive-in movie theater! home and auto. lamp! squares. stupid, dumb. lines. [ alarm rings ] no! home and auto bundle from progressive. saves you money. yay, game night, so much fun.

as we continue our coverage on the unrest in baltimore, there's a ton of other news we're keeping our eye on. we'll have a report in a minute from richard engle from nepal where search and rescue efforts continue from the earthquake which has claimed nearly 4300 lives. it is morning now and we have a report on rescue efforts coming up. also, and this has been swamped in other national and international news, but there really has been very heavy weather in the american south in the last few days, including some crushing hailstorms and thunderstorms near hurricane-force winds hit the alabama coast during a major sailing tournament two people confirmed dead. four additional people still listed as missing today although the coast guard had to suspend their search for them in the face of these ongoing alabama storms. in new orleans today this

freight train was rolling across a trestle bridge that crosses the mississippi river when the local abc station had a camera rolling. watch those cars. they caught it on tape as about ten of the train cars were blown offer the bridge and crashed down below. amazingly, nobody was hurt. and amazingly, there was nothing dangerous in the cars that crashed and fell all that way. just unbelievable. we are awaiting what is going to be a huge supreme court day tomorrow and another huge one of the day after that. they will hear arguments in the marriage case that could overturn all remaining bans on same-sex marriage across the country or not. then on wednesday the court will hear arguments in a case that could end lethal injection in this country or not. the state of texas has decided to mark the occasion of that case reaching the supreme court

by scheduling an execution by lethal injection for the night before the court takes up the case of whether lethal injection is constitutional. last-minute rush. everything must go. amid all that other news, baltimore today and into tonight has been fairly out of control with the rioting that followed the funeral for freddie gray. gray died last week after something yet unexplained happened to him while in police custody.

for hundreds of years, nepal was a monarchy. but in 2001, the crown prince, the member of the royal family who was next in line to be king, he went berserk. the crown prince went and got himself a fully automatic assault rifle and machine pistol and semi-automatic shotgun and

killed his entire family, his father, the king, his mother, the queen and basically all the rest of his immediate family, almost all the rest of the royal family of that nation until finally he killed himself. nine members of the royal family killed by the crown prince in 2001 before he finally shot himself. after he shot himself, he didn't die right away. he went into a coma during which time he was king for a hot minute until he died too. the country was already in the grips of a communist insurgency. but the massacre of the royal family pushed the nation of nepal into crisis. they're technically a post-monarchy country. the country is very poor. the government of nepal, such as it is doesn't have great reach in the country. infrastructure is pretty

terrible. nepal is a very, very beautiful part of the world, but its people are fairly vulcanized. its population speaks more than 120 different languages. outside the capital of kathmandu the communities don't have much of a connection to each other or to their country as a whole. and that is partly a function of the strange politics of nepal and the topography. what separates communities are some of the highest mountains of the world and terrible roads. and landslides are a feature of every day life. and one of the most active and most feared tectonic fissures anywhere in the world. nepal is split in half by a fault line that experts have feared could produce one of the largest earthquakes in one of

the countries that would be least able to handle it because of lax building standards and the lack of basic governing capacity to be able to handle a crisis of huge international proportions. the quake that hit nepal on saturday morning is being blamed so far for the deaths of more than 4300 people. nbc's richard engle is in kathmandu. communications even by satellite have been very difficult today and tonight. so we've asked richard to file this tonight from his reporting today. >> reporter: rachel, what's amazing about this story, even three days after this earthquake when we speak to medical officials, military officials, they have no idea of the scale of the problem. they are all concerned that they are going to eventually reach some village or town that has been cut off because the roads are blocked, because it's inaccessible because of avalanches or landslides, and they're going to find that the

town is destroyed and all the people killed. so they are very cautious about the death toll. now they talk about 4,000. but they are very worried that in the coming days, as they learn more, that the number could rise dramatically. this is the moment nepal was brought to its knees. the quake left thousands dead and much of this already poor country without power. short of clean water. centuries-old temples fell. here in kathmandu, the historic town center was devastated. many are staying outdoors in parks and on the streets, terrified of repeated aftershocks, two more big ones today. nepal has mobilized its troops for relief work. volunteers desperately dig by hand. this woman used to come to this very spot to have coffee in the shade of a temple. mostly, they're searching for

bodies in these piles. but sometimes there's unexpected. a man pulled out alive today. international rescue teams have finally arrived. but getting outside the capital is a struggle. roads blocked, helicopters in short supply. nbc's ian williams reached one town just outside the capital. >> reporter: some of the worse damage is around these narrow alley ways where there are few buildings that haven't been impacted by the quake. this one propped up precariously by pieces of wood. >> reporter: in more remote and inaccessible villages, the toll is still unknown. in a hospital in kathmandu, we saw workers take away dozens of unclaimed bodies to be cremated. a line of people watched, hoping to identify missing loved ones. inside the emergency room, every bed was full. >> we have received a lot of

patients with blunt injuries. >> reporter: a doctor told us they're working back to back shifts. hospitals in nepal are overwhelmed. this one doesn't have nearly enough beds so patients are left to recover on blankets and under tarps in the parking lot. this family is spending a third night outdoors. her five month old daughter died in the quake. sunita broke her arm. and they have no home to return to. >> richard engle reporting from nepal. he's in kathmandu. we'll be right back. stay with us.

we're going to go back live now to the streets of baltimore, maryland where the protests tonight have not been as easy to follow as they were earlier this afternoon. but where fires continue, including what appears to be a second cvs store on fire. we saw footage today of a cvs store in west baltimore being looted and set on fire. ben jacobs from the guardian newspaper is at the site of another cvs on fire. thanks very much for joining us.

>> caller: thanks for having me. >> so what are you seeing? >> reporter: it's a little over a mile southwest of the first cvs on fire. this had been hit about 45 minutes ago, the fire's smoldering, it seems to be relatively under control but one of the fires i've been to this night. there are building fires, car fires and things are on edge. >> when you've seen things on fire whether it's a store or car fires or other building fires, have they been in the midst of active protests or are these buildings just burning out on their own by roving arsonists? >> caller: they seem to be burning on their own. there seems to be an element of copycat stuff. it's not massive protests. and folks i've talked to around say it's not even connected to freddie gray at this point.

it's something much more bigger and much more, sort of more wide ranging. >> at least certainly taking advantage of the situation in the city tonight it would seem. one of the things, ben, that we had been focussing on in the mid afternoon was the difficulty that fire brigades and firefighters were having responding to even the fires that we could all see, the ones getting national television coverage. there was one scene where a protest appears to have cut into a fire hose to interfere with what firefighters were trying to do. are you seeing any of that? >> caller: at this point it's more spread out and there's less of that. firefighter did tell me that the city's fire department is totally out of resources at this point. they're pushed to their absolute limit as they're dealing with all of this and dealing with all the chaos going on in the city.

>> are the fires that you're seeing confined to a specific area of the city or are they really ranging? >> caller: no. they've been raging across the west side and the big fire, by the church happened along with smaller outbreaks closer to john hopkins hospital. and it's surprising folks in the neighborhood to see what's going on in their part of the city as well. there's been reports of fires in downtown baltimore. >> wow. in terms of the response, obviously, we've been talking mostly about how we expect the policing response to be upscaled. members of the national guard expected to join now that this executive order has been issued by the state of emergency has been proclaimed by the governor. but if the firefighters are also saying that they are completely out of resources, you haven't

seen any sort of augmenting resources trying to help out the baltimore fire department, have you? >> caller: i haven't seen any augmenting resources yet. it's all baltimore city fire department folks as opposed from the police. we have police from a number of jurisdictions. and i'm now seeing my first armored car in the city as well. >> so you're starting to see the arrival of new equipment that you didn't see earlier on tonight? >> caller: yes. >> ben jacobs from the guardian, appreciate you calling in to us. >> caller: thanks so much. >> what ben's been reporting is multiple fires raging that do not seem to be at the center of active protesting but do seem to be raging through the large quad rants of the city, overtaxing the fire department. today thousands and thousands and thousands of people packed into the new shiloh baptist church for the funeral of freddie gray.

it was completely packed today, plus there was standing room, and people in an outflow. mourners and supporters of freddie gray and his family. public officials, including the mayor and head of the naacp. elijah cummings spoke and promised justice for freddie gray. but the eulogy was delivered by a local pastor. and that eulogy brought the house down. >> i don't know how you can be black in america and be silent. with everything that we been through ain't no way in the world you can sit here and be silent in the face of injustice. you mighty people accomplish what you will. this is not the time for us as a

people to be sitting on the corner drinking malt liquor. this is not the time for us to be playing lottery or to be at the horseshoe casino. this is not the time for us to be walking around with our pants hanging down past our behind. this is not the time for us to have no respect for our legacy and for our history. this is not the time for tattoos all over your neck. but lift up your head oh, yea and be lifted up that the king of glory shall come in. >> pastor jamal bryant delivering that at freddie gray's funeral. there have been a lot of calls that there should be no protests on this day, the day of freddie gray's funeral. some police officers injured on

saturday night. nearly three dozen people arrested. but when schools let out at about 3:00 this afternoon, things did take a turn in baltimore, and there were many hours of looting, burning cars, rioting, and tonight the fires continue in baltimore. we just heard a live report from the guardian reporter talking about fires burning in the city and overtaxing the resources of the baltimore fire department. we'll expect national guard troops on the streets in the morning. in terms of the freddie gray case, the baltimore police department says it will conclude its investigation into the circumstances of freddie gray's death due to something that happened to him in police custody. they said they will conclude that investigation this friday and hand over their findings to the local prosecutor. we'll see what their decision is.

and we'll see how baltimore reacts. if's going to be a hot day in baltimore with the schools closed and the curfew going into effect and the national guard on the streets. guard on the streets, it's tough times. "first look" is up next. breaking news right now on nbc. thanks for joining us. i'm betty nguyen. two simple words from this morning's baltimore sun. they're talking about the chaos that overtook pockets of the city and today overnight hours. police department issued a tweet saying we are deploying officers with the fire department to ensure fire fighting operations are not disrupted. that statement half less than 24 hours after freddie gray's funeral funeral. right now a day of mourning turned into a evening of lawlessness. you're looking at pictures that followed the