continues after monday's violence. the 10:00 p.m. citywide curfew remains in effect. last night, more than 3,000 national guard troops fanned out to enforce that curfew, and the police commissioner insists that's what helped keep the streets calmer. >> i think the biggest thing is that citizens are safe the city is stable we hope to maintain it that way. >> there were some groups that defied the curfew and clashed briefly with officers who responded by using pepper balls to disperse the small crowd, but there were only about ten arrests made last night. 200 were arrested the night before. while everyone waits to see if the calm holds for another night, people are still demanding answers about how presiesly freddie gray died. the report is expected to prosecutors friday with results of the internal investigation how gray suffered the fatal spinal cord injury while in custody, but it could be a while

before the results are made public. meanwhile, in a radio interview airing this morning, president obama told host steve harvey he understands the anger and frustration many are feeling over gray's death. he also said he does plan to visit baltimore, just not right away. >> unfortunately, you know we've seen these police-related killings or deaths too often now, and, obviously, you know everybody is starting to recognize that this is not just an isolated incident in ferguson or in new york but we've got some broader issues. now, as i said yesterday, you know the kind of violence looting, destruction that we saw from a handful of individuals in baltimore, there's no excuse for that.

>> msnbc's joy reid is on the ground for us in baltimore. joy, you know yesterday we saw the community starting to come together to clean up. some of the protests at times actually seemed a bit jubilant. last night we caught some glimpses amid the small clashes between police and protesters actually some residents protecting the police. our cameras caught some of that. do you get the sense on the ground that this is a relative peace and a relative calm that's going to hold in baltimore today and into the night? >> well hi good morning, craig. calm, definitely i'm glad you used the term relative. you never really get used to being in an american city and seeing police in full body armor and shields and helmets and national guard troops and armored humvees rolling around or parked on the street which is what you have in baltimore right now. we've come a little bit of a way down the street into west

baltimore. you can see it's quiet and people are going about their lives. the barbershop is here the northwest variety store is opening up for business, so people are trying to get back to normal, but there is this sense of ominous overarching presence of law enforcement, particularly when you get to things like down the street where the library is, the city center, so they are still here, and i think that amount of tension is still in the air. >> occupied city to a certain extent. >> essentially, yes. that's what it feels like. it definitely feels a bit like a city that's under a kind of quasi military occupation, so while it's calm you can't describe that as normal difficult to describe that as normal, and craig, just talking to people. i had a great conversation with a young man who's a lifelong resident and lives in this area and said look you know when he hears people on the air talking about young thugs and people burning down their

neighborhoods, he makes a point in a lot of this area, we're in a predominantly african-american part of west baltimore, people don't own anything here people are renting here. people don't have a sense of place here. there's a book store, i don't know if you can zoom in and see, that was not harmed at all in any of those uprising that took place or the damage because it's owned by a local people by african-americans, it's part of the community, but for the most part, without that sense of connection, this person was saying to me this young man was saying what he expects the kids to do when they are seeing their parents even brutalized by police, they lose a sense of ownership over society, so that destabilization has to be addressed before we start talking about whether or not people should be staying in their homes and respecting the police. >> joy reid with insight and perspective as always on the ground for us in baltimore. thank you, my friend. let's bring in monica with vice news she's also been on the ground in baltimore since sunday. monica thanks for being with

me. i know you've also talked to a lot of residents. i want to start with you, same place i started with joy, do you get the sense this is a relative calm and relative peace that's going to hold in baltimore? do you get the sense the tensions could rise again? >> that's a very good question and it's hard to tell. you know i can tell you from being in the streets until quite late even after curfew last night, that the city is on edge as your reporter was saying earlier, and i can tell you, as well, that all the violence and the chaos has been spontaneous. what's being reported about gang members being behind us as far as we know and we've talked to gang members and leaders, is not true. yesterday, for example, there was a gang member who told me i want people to go back home and we're not in any sense agitating the youth and making them attack the police or provoke them in any case but you have to understand that the grievances of people here are so deep that it's almost like a pressure cooker. it can explode at any time and people are really angry because they want answers from the

police. and they think that a man who was arrested and under police custody is just not normal. >> you've also got to wonder we don't know when this report is going to be made public. we know the prosecutors are expected to get it on friday. you have to wonder when the results of the report come out whether that might also be a bit of a trigger, as well. what are folks saying there, monica about the way that we have been covering all of this? what are they saying about the media? i'm sure they are saying a lot. >> they are. they are. that's a good question. i know that yesterday a lot of people came up to us and they said look the community wants the media to go home we want to go home it was a surreal situation, because you had more than five choppers flying over with us telling people to go home kind of a lockdown atmosphere, if you will pretty tense, and people wanted everybody to go home. but i think they want the media to be here as well because the

problems they have now are not new, if you will. a lot of them feel unfairly targeted by the police at times, they think they want the baltimore case to be on the headlines, they want people to know what the situation's like. there were fathers telling us yeah, we live in the neighborhood where there's drug dealers, crimes shootouts, where the houses are boarded up loads of houses boarded up. it's not a easy situation, but it's not new, if you will. i think they want the media to be here to hold authorities to account and i think they want the situation to be reported. >> monica with our friends at vice. monica thank you. and an unprecedented scene in just a few hours in the wake of unrest in baltimore and it's causing quite a bit of controversy. the orioles will be playing the white sox today at camden yards, but fans won't be allowed inside the stadium. in fact, it's the first time in u.s. sports history that teams will be playing to a closed

empty stadium. the riots had already led officials to postpone the first two games of the orioles/white sox series and the orioles decided to move their next series to the rays' ballpark in florida. major league baseball commissioner rob manfred issued a statement in part "after conversations with the orioles and local officials, we believe that these decisions are in the best interest of fan safety and the deployment of city resources." that decision prompted usa today to write this "at a time when a little show of faith could have gone a long way, major league baseball acted out of fear." but from the baltimore sun it was this "it might not seem fair, but orioles rightfully take a back seat to security concerns throughout the city." msnbc's kasie hunt joins me live now from camden yards. what's the reaction from orioles fans that you've talked to? what are they saying? >> reporter: craig good morning. well this is going to turn into

a pretty eerie sight for some of those orioles fans and the city as a whole. we can see already some people trying to go to the box office to buy tickets, being turned away, and this decision coming under a certain level of criticism because of the visuals that it's going to create. i asked the orioles' executive vice president about it earlier today. >> we want to be sensitive to the needs of the community, we didn't want to divert a lot of the resources for public safety to an event, but under the schedule demands of the american league, this is the only time the white sox are in here, and we already missed a couple of games, and there really is not an opportunity for them to play here. >> reporter: so there you have it their defense is this decision to play. i will also tell you, craig, we briefly ran into cal ripkin jr., who is of course a sports legend here in baltimore. he didn't want to talk about the riots, but he did say he was

going to potentially attend the game today. he also said he of course has never played to an empty stadium because it's never been done before. and i also should correct something i said a bit earlier in the day here today, ripkin of course, has been the highest number of consecutive starts not the most games played which, of course the legendary pete rose. >> i'm sure the baseball fans took to twitter to correct you on that one. they take that very seriously. really quickly, kasie, was there other alternatives to playing in an empty stadium? nationals ballpark in d.c. is about 40 miles away the nats aren't there right now. why was that not considered? >> well craig, we heard from some of the orioles officials they discussed it but never actually took it to the nationals franchise to discuss it. they are embroiled in a legal dispute over a television network that they share, so we're speculating when we say that might be part of it. we don't have confirmation on

that. they also could have potentially cancelled the game, but as you heard him say this it would be difficult to reschedule. one extra thing i want to note for you, i also asked how the game was going to go would they play the national anthem he says as of right now the in-park experience, quote, unquote, is not going to be different from any typical ball game. they are still going to run the scoreboard and play the national anthems, tradition of shouting "oh" in the anthem they obviously won't be here to do that today. maybe that plan will change in the long run, but earlier today that's how he said it was going to go. >> all right. folks near the stadium can at least experience the game. kasie hunt for us from camden yards, thank you. what does your gut tell you? this is the focus of today's gut check. do you agree with the decision to play this afternoon's orioles/white sox game in an empty stadium? you can go to

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developing right now, the supreme court justices will be weighing those arguments presented yesterday in a case that could make same-sex the law of the land. justice anthony kennedy could once again be the swing vote in what could be a 5-4 decision. at times, kennedy questioned aggressively the lawyers representing states opposed to legalizing same-sex marriage but at other times he openly worried about changing the definition of marriage. >> this definition has been with us for millennia. and it's very difficult for the court to say, oh, well, we know

better. >> nbc news supreme court analyst was inside the chamber for yesterday's arguments. first of all, in general, what was your take away after listening to the two and a half hours of arguments? >> i think it's going to be a nail biter. i think the court is very closely divided, as you suggested, a 5-4 decision is the most likely outcome here and justice kennedy, obviously torn by the fact that he has been a hero for gay rights advocates and recognizing they are the subject of what he regards as irrational discrimination so they are very very hopeful to pull it out and get his fifth vote. >> tom, one of the things that struck me yesterday reading the transcript was justice alito introducing this idea that perhaps some sort of compromise could be a state that denies couples to wed, same-sex couples to wed, but would still

recognize same-sex marriages from other states where that is legal. is that a possibility? >> it is a possibility. the justices have two questions in front of them the first is do same-sex couples have that right to marry under the constitution, but second if they do not but a state decides that they will allow same-sex marriages, like a new york or a massachusetts, if that couple then moves to texas or alabama, does that marriage have to be recognized. so that's the middle ground in front of the justices too. >> there has been speculation chief justice roberts might also side with supporters of same-sex marriage, but i want to play one of his remarks and talk to you about it on the other side. take a listen. >> every definition that i looked up prior to about a dozen years ago defined marriage as a unity between a man and a woman. you're not seeking to join the institution, you're seeking to change what the institution is. >> this is always what we do of course, we try to read the tea

leaves. based on that it would seem to be safe to assume chief justice roberts will be siding with the court's three most conservative justices scalia thomas and alito. >> the chief justice would say no constitutional right to marriage, but interesting whether you have a right to have your marriage recognized if one state is going to allow you to have it. chief justice is a very conservative justice, but he's coy in arguments, makes sure to explore the issues with both sides, very hard to predict. >> let's pivot here and talk about something happening today, another controversial issue before the high court decision. the lethal injection drug combination increasingly being used in executions all over this country and whether it violates the constitution's ban on cruel and unusual punishment. tell us a little bit more about what the justices are hearing this morning. >> sure, the justices have said we can have capital punishment in this country and can do it by lethal injection, but now we get

into the details. the justices have said you can't have unnecessary and undue pain and suffering, you have to find an execution method that is as humane as possible and they are debating a three-judge protocol led by the drug you mentioned from the state of oklahoma and the justices are trying to decide, does the state need to find a new way to execute prisoners on death row. >> how do you quantify though unnecessary and undue? >> it's a very difficult situation. we're talking about an execution, after all, but there is a real concern that the drugs involved don't serve purpose other than masking the suffering the inmate go through, so the justices who defer a lot to the states nonetheless are applying the principle we won't have cruel and unusual punishments. >> tom goldstein, supreme court analyst. tom, thank you. >> thanks for having me. a dramatic story of survival in nepal. new video of a man being freed from the rubble four days after

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team from virginia is looking for survivors outside kathmandu in a small community where people buried under the rubble can still be heard pleading for help. but there's hope here's why. late yesterday, rescuers pulled a man from that rubble rubble of a hotel, pulled him out alive and it was all caught on tape. that guy spent more than 80 hours banging on the rubble. the doctor who treated him said he managed to survive on sheer will power. nbc's ian williams remains in kathmandu for us. ian, what's the latest on the search, what's the latest on the effort to get more aid there? >> reporter: hi craig, where there is a lot of frustration here and that boiled over today

with protests small and angry outside parliament over the speed of government help but what we are learning is relief supplies are beginning to get through to some of the more remote areas and the search and rescue operation is now getting up to speed, as we discovered on a journey around kathmandu today. five days after the quake and rescue workers finally arrived at one of nepal's iconic landmarks. at least three people still under the rubble of the monkey temple. >> really sacred place. this level of damage is enormous. >> reporter: unesco world heritage site dates to the 5th century. most of the more than three dozen temples and ancient houses here have been damaged, some have collapsed completely. its size the all seeing eyes of the buddha still look out over the kathmandu valley below. where heavy equipment is now

being deployed to clear the rubble. and where they are giving up hope of finding anybody alive. this was a hotel of four or five stories with a restaurant and shops on the ground floor. they fear there are at least 12 people trapped underneath this rubble. nearby, up a narrow alley, another search through the twisted remains of what appears to have been a guest house still under construction. eight people okay one person died here. the search team calls for extra help. they cut away the rebar that failed to save the building revealing the body of a middle aged man. and after five terrible days of waiting, a relative confirms his identity. well, with every body found, such terrible grief. the government conceives that things have been slow but says this is unprecedented. they've never had to deal with anything like this before and they are hopeful that things

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the police commissioner says police fired some smoke cannons throughout the crowd of people who broke the 10:00 p.m. curfew but calm was restored after 3,000 national guard troops patrolled the streets there. president obama is speaking out about monday's riots. in an interview this morning the president condemned the violence, adding the underlying issues cannot be brushed aside after the crisis passes. and the department of justice said it has met with freddie gray's family yesterday, no details were given about the meeting. the department says a special team is also meeting with residents about police and community relations. meanwhile, that baltimore mother we told you about yesterday who is still getting a lot of attention for dishing out some tough love to her son is now speaking out. toya graham seen on video, the video that has since gone viral, confronting her son amid the rioting in baltimore monday afternoon, graham telling cbs

news she caught her son throwing stuff at the police and recognized him in part by his baggy sweatpants. >> lo and behold i turn around and look in this crowd and my son is actually coming across the street with this hoodie on and a mask. at that point, i just lost it. and he gave me eye contact. and at that point, not even thinking about cameras or anything like that that's my only son. and at the end of the day, i don't want him to be a freddie gray. >> many folks not just on the streets of baltimore, but all over this country are calling her a hero for jacking up her son like that in the streets, commending her for her actions. we talked to some in baltimore to get their take on the video that's gone viral in a big way. >> i think she was right. >> reporter: if your son were old enough to be out in the street rioting and you saw him, what would you do? >> the same thing that mother did. go find my son and take him

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baltimore schools are open after being closed yesterday. tonight, protests in solidarity with baltimore are planned around the country, new york boston, minneapolis, as well just to name a few of the cities. in about two and a half hours, the baltimore orioles will be playing the chicago white sox, but they'll be playing that game in an empty ballpark in baltimore. no fans are being allowed into camden yards because of security concerns after monday's riots. it will be the first time in u.s. sports history that teams will play to a closed empty stadium. turning now to our first read on politics this morning, hillary clinton talked about the unrest in baltimore. she also called for reform of the criminal justice system in a speech at columbia university. at this hour prime minister shinzo abe is speaking before a joint session of congress the first japanese leader to ever do so. and tomorrow vermont senator bernie sanders will be announcing his presidential bid. i'm joined now by nbc news senior political editor mark murray. let's talk about playing what

former secretary of state clinton had to say a short time ago at that event in new york. again, this is clinton's first speech as a candidate. she addressed the situation in baltimore and she also connected it to the needs to reform the criminal justice system. here it is. >> one in every 28 children in our country now has a parent in prison. think about what that means for those children. it's time to change our approach. it's time to end the era of mass incarceration. we need a true national debate about how to reduce our prison population while keeping our community safe. >> this is something that we've heard from senator rand paul as well, some other candidates talk about criminal justice reform. is this going to be a theme, not just now, but, mark is this going to be a theme throughout the 2016 campaign? >> yeah craig, and from republicans and democrats. as you mentioned, there really is a bipartisan appeal to this

issue. you end up having republicans like rand paul even rick perry on one side democrats like hillary clinton, former maryland governor martin o'malley almost every politician wants some type of criminal justice reform and it's ironic because the era of mass incarceration as hillary clinton was just referring to in a lot of ways was begun under her president in the 1990s. that was an era of let's lock up everybody as long as possible put them in prison that's the way to reduce crime and you're seeing a pushback and kind of blow back to that. of course, the devil's always going to be in the details, but there is at least a bipartisan interest in getting something done here. >> it's fascinating to me because there was not -- wasn't that long ago in american politics and you start talking about an era of mass incarceration, you're immediately labeled soft on crime. interesting to see the pendulum shift. let's turn to prime minister shinzo abe, the trip to capitol hill this morning, also some complicated politics at play

break that down for us. >> well you know craig, to me the biggest thing about what the prime minister is actually doing is trying to sell the tpp, and that's the transpacific partnership trade agreement. that's a big administration priority for the obama white house. it's also a priority for a lot of republicans who want to see free trade. it's opposed by organized labor and progressive democrats. it's really turned into one of the biggest last legislative fights that we're probably going to see in president obama's fourth quarter of his presidency and you're hearing the japanese make the case on why the trade deal should get done. >> live pictures while you were talking about the prime minister. really quickly, let's talk about bernie sanders, the announcement expected tomorrow. bernie sanders in his heart of hearts knows he's not going to be president of the united states. why would he run? >> to be able to turn the conversation to the issues he wants to talk about, craig. we've seen elizabeth warren have a similar effect even though

she's not running for the presidency, where when she talks, she's able to get a lot of her issues discussed. bernie sanders believes him being in the race and having a candidate that says look we need to expand social security not cut it ends up helping democrats and, you know progressives. notable bernie sanders is an independent in the united states senate, he's going to be running as a democrat but he clearly wants to be able to move the conversation to the left and push hillary clinton, the likely democratic nominee, to the left as well. >> mark murray always good to see you. thank you. >> thanks. coming up police in southern california searching for a driver who hit an elderly woman right there, then took off. it's just one of the stories that we are following around the "news nation." also as baltimore picks up the pieces from the riots that started mostly with students there's renewed focus today on helping lift a generation of children out of poverty and away from gangs. up next i'll talk live with hip hop mogul turned social activist

russell simmons, along with david banks, the founder of the eagle academy. they've been working with young men of color for years. first, though there's a lot going on this morning and here's just a few things we thought you should know. joseph clancy and other top officials are testifying today at a house hearing on that gyrocopter that flew over restricted air space and landed on the lawn of the u.s. capitol two weeks ago. clancy told lawmakers the secret service did not have prior warning about the flight. meanwhile, doug hughes the man who fly the gyrocopter is now under house arrest in florida. he faces four years in prison for the incident. jeb bush told an audience of supporters in puerto rico that he supports a push for statehood for the u.s. territory. the former florida governor and likely presidential candidate made the comments during a series of public events on the island yesterday. >> i believe that we should have -- the port ricans should

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more problems are expected today after a glitch with an ipad app that pilots used grounded dozens of flights. that tops our story around the "news nation" this morning. an app that gives pilots their flight charts crashed yesterday, forcing many pilots to return to the gates to access a wifi connection to try to fix the issue. passengers on about two dozen flights had to board other planes. american says that they have to uninstall and reinstall the app, which is taking some time. american started using ipads in the cockpit back in 2013 as a

way to save on fuel and money. some scary moments for passengers making an emergency landing at philadelphia international airport. check this out, a fire broke out in one of the engines of the turbo prop united express plane, causing one of the propellers to stop mid-air. that plane was on the way to new jersey, it managed to land safely in philly and the plane was sprayed down with foam. the nfl, the national football league's central office is ending its more than 70-year status as a tax-exempt organization. the league has been under pressure from some lawmakers who have questioned whether the nfl deserves a tax break. and police in california are looking for a hit-and-run driver caught on camera knocking an elderly woman on the ground right there. you can see the vehicle drove through the mcdonald's parking lot just as three people were leaving the restaurant. suddenly the car backs up, hitting that 85-year-old woman. eventually the driver gets out and spends a few seconds looking

at the victim but then the guy gets in and the passenger got back in the car and they sped away. fortunately, the 85-year-old woman is okay. well talking about the talking about the rye nots baltimore yesterday, president obama made a significant point about addressing problems that go beyond police relations and stem from broken urban community. take a listen. >> if we are serious about solving this problem, we not only have to help the police we're going to have to think about what we can do rest of us to make sure we provide an early education to these kids. to make sure we're reforming the criminal justice system so it's not just a pipeline from schools to prisons. so that we're not rendering men in these community unemployable because of a felony record for a nonviolent drug offense. that we're making investments so they can get the training they need to find jobs.

that's hard. >> one of the organizations that's working to make a true difference in these communities, especially with young men is the eagle academy. the all-boys prep academy has a system of six public schools strategically placed in high-crime areas in new york new jersey. the school takes the unique approach with mentoring and teaching principles of leadership all in an effort to change the lives of many young men of color for whom the odds are stacked against. i got to know the organization a number of years ago. i'm joined by a guy who doesn't need much introduction, russell simmons. founder of the rush card def jam records, on the advisory board of the eagle academy. joining us in studio, david banks, president and ceo of the eagle academy foundation. also i wrote a book recently called "soar," about how schools can save our young men of color nationally. thank you both for being with me on this wednesday. russell, let me start with you. last fall through the rush card you supported the community

program called safe streets in baltimore, i understand. let me start with getting your reaction to what we all saw unfold in baltimore monday evening. and even to a much lesser extent than last night. >> the frustration, the anger, hopelessness that exists in communities is overwhelming. and when injustice is done and it can turn into the violence that you saw. we have to understand that what the president said -- i'm happy to hear him say. he said it in 2007 when he started his run in 2008. reforming the prison industrial complex, dismantling it and their influence government and laws that have incarcerated our people and trained some young men to be criminals, nonviolent men to be criminals, and then put them back in the community without hope or opportunity. the truth is in the -- the particular problem we do have an issue where police are

charged with policing themselves. if your brother kills somebody, you're likely to bury the body. we need special, impartial, independent prosecutors across this country for oversight for police. >> beyond that -- >> this is common sense. oversight for police. >> i want to say -- yes. >> beyond that russell, body cameras, as well. there continues to be -- >> body cameras is something everybody's accepting. but for the police to have to police themselves, it's so damaging to them because we don't get indictments in cases where we should. and good police are then brought in to this discussion. so we need oversight. of course, body cameras, but special prosecutors so that police don't -- are not charged with policing themselves. we don't live in a police state, and we should have proper oversight. >> david much of what we saw unfold on monday initially involved students. involved young people. young people that looked like me

and you. you see the images of folks throwing rocks at officers. what was your initial reaction as well? >> listen, i understand people respond -- there's a level of anguish, a level of anger. not simply about the case in baltimore, but this ongoing series of assaults and murders that we're seeing that are taking place across this country. that's part of the reason it exploded. what we've done in new york city, we've created the eagle academy for young men, a network of all-boys schools. we've instill aid values system in young men where we found mentors for the young men provide opportunities for them during the schoolday and after school. when we look at the situation with the mother from baltimore who's been heralded for chastising her son, as she should. what i really am struck by is the fact that where are the fathers? that's a huge part of what we're facing -- >> you know where a lot of the fathers are. >> that's what i mean. we've got to have a reform that speaks to the issue. the new york times came out, 1.-- "the new york times" came

out, 120,000 men missing incarcerated. as we watch the issues take place, does this country care enough about black men to make a difference? does the country feel like it needs black men? that's a fundamental question that has to be answered. we can look at each of these situations that in isolation, but that's a deeper question. i contend that we must recognize that if this country is to be economically viable, we cannot continue to have this much wasted human capital sitting on the sidelines. these are young men with talent. we've got to invest nurture them. we've got to get them into this economy. >> russell, one of the things that president obama alluded to yesterday is this outrage machine that rears its head every time something like this happens in this country. it happened after ferguson, in north charleston, as well. are we a week from now, two weeks from now, going to have moved to something else? >> no, no. i think in this particular instance, we will have a change.

i believe governor cuomo in new york who has promised to make change through legislation. he said if that didn't work the next thing would be an executive order. that would be one of the states that led in this issue. this has to change across the country. but the truth is as david has pointed out, we need to educated and give opportunities. the eagle academy has twice the graduation rate of the schools of public schools in this area. and around this country. and the graduation rate is so young amongst african-americans, it's staggering. but i mean, it's -- david's organization, the eagle academy, it's got i think 85 -- correct me if i'm wrong -- 85% 8% graduation which is twice that was the normal school system. >> really all around this country. and russell's been a big support. it's part of the reason i wrote the book, "soar," how boys lead learn, succeed in --

>> i'm glad you worked that in, not the fact but that boys learn differently. folks -- i was one of those boys that learned differently. russell, thank you very much as always, sir. david, keep doing the great work that you have been doing over the eagle academy. >> thank you very much. >> that's going to do it. i'm craig mefl anyonelvin in for tamron hall. mark owns restaurants in the lake tahoe area. realizing the needs, he started a bakery for bread, butcher for meat, plus pasta and pastry. american express for travel and entertainment worldwide. just show them this - the american express card. don't leave home without it! and someday, i may even use it on the moon. it's a marvelous thing! oh! haha! so you can replace plane tickets,

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