protected police and cleaned neighborhoods and danced in the streets. they refused to let violence define their city. then there's the criminals defiant for defyiance sake. 209 arrested on monday. many have first court appearances today. we're outside camden yards where baseball is back after two games were postponed as we speak, the o's and white sox are making mlb history, the first game ever played without a single fan in the stands. baltimore's pastor organize a rally and vigil as well as for freddie gray's family. a free outdoor concert calling for peace and reconciliation and played the star spangled banner whose words were written in baltimore. ♪ baltimore schools are back in session and they are now wrapping up for the day. teachers are using this week's

events as a real life lesson one junior high teacher saying in this case she is a listener first and teacher second. our coverage begins with ron allen who is in baltimore along with tour'e. ron, let's begin with you, what's the latest on the ground? >> caller: there's a lot of concern of what happens when school let's out in the coming hour or so. you'll remember on monday when the problem started here that there was a big confrontation between a number of high school students and police at a local mall. police have been monitoring social media and deployed in force in places where they think there might be trouble where there are known gathering spots of high school students in particular after school. that's the big concern right now. as you said overnight things were relatively calm. the curfew was imposed at 10:00 last night. 35 arrests. which is relatively small number in a city of 600,000 people. we're moving towards that again today at 5:00 or so this evening, there's another rally and march planned and people marching from baltimore's main

train station to city hall to show support for freddie gray's family and to demand justice. we're going to have more of the marches just about every day going forward. overnight as well the governor here larry hogan, praised the community and people in the community stepping up to try and keep the peace. here's some of what he had to say. >> i really want to thank leaders of the community, not just elected leaders and the faith based leaders but just regular people in the neighborhood that were trying to convince friends and family members to get home. they were heroes out here in baltimore city that were out there doing a great job, convincing friends it didn't make sense to be out there and that helped. >> reporter: relatively tense situation for a half or hour or so at 10:00 because there was a several hundred police in riot gear trying to clear out an intersection at north avenue one of the main flash points throughout the past few days. a huge crowd, several hundred

people were not going home an defying police order to observe the curfew. but they backed down and at one point the police made a lot of noise with clubs and shields. there was some gas deployed and crowd scattered. all of that took an hour or so but things calmed down quickly, which was the good news about what happened last night. just 35 people or so arrested but most people heeded the call to go home and observe this curfew. and police in most of the people here are hoping that continues throughout the day. across town from where i am my colleague tour'e is standing by with more here's there where all of the trouble started last night and where things are relatively calm this afternoon. over to you now. >> ron, thanks for that it is calm here at the corner of pennsylvania and north. i'm joined by caldwell a member of the blood gang we first met last night. niko, you were out here last night. there was a line of cops preventing people from moving down north avenue. in front of that line was a line of citizens and a lot of them

bloods some of them krips, keeping people from hurting the police. at some point they would move people away from the police to help begin enforcing the curfew. a lot of people would say strange bedfellows helping the police. how is it and why is it those two groups are coming together here? >> i think people have a misconception, what it is is that -- like i said last night, based on the ideologies and beliefs of the bloods and crypts, our belief system comes from the black panther party of the 1960s and you know we all know they stood for peace and protecting neighborhoods and feeding their community and et cetera, et cetera. now as far as helping the police situation, we weren't necessarily helping the police. it's just that we know that martial law is in effect and strag alongs of the crowd that have a bad -- what is the terminology, a bad ideology of

the police they might throw things at the police and provoke the police. we were told if they would provoke any more after the incidents before happened that happened, that they would start shooting. so we had to stop that because there were too many innocent bystanders out in the crowd and too many children too many people and reporters. so we felt as though we had to handle this ourselves so the police won't try to shoot us. >> it's not yet officially not currently officially called martial law and i know i saw bloods and crypts helping enforce peace but i also saw with my own eyes folks who were bloods throwing rocks and bottles at the police not folks i saw with you but other folks. what do you say about that? >> maybe they -- i can only speak for the groups i was with. maybe they were bloods that we didn't know of that did things

but trust and believe if that happened, they would have been handled accordingly. i'm not going to say they would have been sanctioned or anything, but we help enforce our rules. we don't want anything to do with anybody provoking the police to kill or hurt or harm anybody else. we want to keep the peace. >> what do you got? >> i know you said you can only speak for the bloods here when it comes to violence on the street as we've seen a number of young kids looting in the street and throwing things, do you think in general the gangs you can speak to your gang specifically, are they part of the problem or part of solving it? >> she's saying do you think the gangs are part of the problem or can they be part of the solution? >> i say there was a time where gangs probably were the problem but i think that that was because the streets, drugs and all of that were involved and

people's own personal vendettas against each other. but gangs based on the belief system that we originally were brought about from we're going back to those principles the original principles was that we stood for, protect our neighborhoods. we're going to be a part of the solution of the city because we need this. >> i want to bring in another guest, pastor dante hickman with us yesterday. what is going on in this community today? how are people doing now? >> it seems like they are calm but it's just containment because we need some answers. we need some investment. we need people to listen to our issues and not placate and brush it under the rug. we need to come together. >> nikko, we heard reports that baltimore police received credible threats that gangs had teamed up not to try to keep the peace but to kill police officers. was there any truth to those

reports? which is it? ? >> did you hear that? >> what do you think about this notion we heard reports that the bloods and crypts were teaming up to attack the police. what do you say to that? >> that's a misconception with that. we were teamed up because we are here for the neighborhoods. we didn't want the police to brutalize anyone else. some of us may have been angry but we didn't team up necessarily to go against police. i myself was victimized for protecting a store by a police officer. i watched a police officer run a young innocent guy over in the middle of the riots. we were protecting the black owned businesses -- >> were the krips and bloods ever thinking about hurting police here? >> we were never thinking about harm and hurting police. we were worried about businesses around our neighborhood that needed to be protected. we were thinking about kids and children that got caught in the middle of the riots. we did not -- i repeat we did

not have any malicious intent towards any officer. >> what do you got? >> this seems like an extraordinary alliance and extraordinary circumstances. i'm interested what happens when we get back to status quo. already we mentioned the number of arrests gone down from 200 to about 35. the reverend characterized it as containment. what happens going forward? >> what's happening going forward, this alliance between bloods and crypts will that continue in the future? >> it's definitely going to continue. it's never going to end in the city now based on like i said the beliefs we go by we made ties with the real political officials and right people -- we may the ride tie. there's going to be peace here. there's truce, this alliance will stand firm. >> pastor are you comfortable with the idea of the bloods and

crypts having power in the city in trying to enforce peace. >> they have natural power influence, it's the democratic way, they are using gangs to be a smoke screen to what the real issues are is the real tragedy. the justice we need to refocus on towards what happened with freddie gray. >> thank you both. appreciate your time so much. we're going to have much more in this hour of the cycle. we'll be right back. that would be my daughter -- hi dad. she's a dietitian. and back when i wasn't eating right, she got me drinking boost. it's got a great taste and it helps give me the nutrition i was missing. helping me stay more like me. [ female announcer ] boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals, including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones and 10 grams of protein to help maintain muscle. all with a delicious taste. grandpa! [ female announcer ] stay strong, stay active with boost. the new s6 hits the stores and i'm like... whoa. open the box and... (sniffing) new phone smell. jump on a video chat with my friend.

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the biggest thing we're out here to do is just pray for hurting people. there's a lot of hurting people out here right now. >> you were standing in front of the police keeping people from getting in front of the police and getting into it with the police. why did you do that? >> the reason why we did it, it wasn't just i, it was a community coming together. the reason why we did, people thought we were trying to protect the police but it wasn't about protecting police. it was about protecting our people. we wanted you to voice your opinion but allow the police enough room where they wouldn't feel threatened and you wouldn't incite the crowd to turn into a riot. >> that's just a smaterring of the folks in baltimoreans we've been speaking with today and people trying to keep the area safe. thomas, you're from all this around and there are a lot of good actors and a lot of people who want to keep the peace and have this community be safe. >> i think they want to take the narrative back and get the

distractions of what happened on monday night away from the story that is trying to seek justice for the family of freddie gray and truth of transparency from the police department. but what i saw yesterday and what i've seen today, people that want the story out there that this is a town that they are not happy with certain frustrations that they are feeling but also not happy with the fact that there were looters and bad actors that took advantage of a crisis in the city. >> i was struck when i saw this group of folks standing arms locked in front of the cops almost protecting the cops and i asked somebody why are you here doing that? and they said the woman said to me we have to protect the cops sometimes too. we see they are afraid they are human and need protecting sometimes too and that made a big difference. >> you make a great point. last night there was a 4 foot body barrier between the lay people that come out here

protesters to lock arms in front of the barricade of the police line and i went to walk through it at one point. one of the gentlemen said please don't do that we want to create this 4 foot separation and i thought, oh, okay i'm sorry, i didn't realize. but they were trying to create a barrier so that people would not get close to the cops so there would not be anything mistaken for aggressive behavior. it was pretty peaceful until after the curfew. that's when we saw a few bad actors, we don't know if they are from the area west baltimore or coming from outside to take care of trying toage tate the situation. but we did see things escalate for a brief period of time last night as we were out here on the streets. but overall, there were only 35 arrests from last night. so they feel that the curfew is a success. and most people that i've talked to about the curfew, they are not torn about it. they are okay with it for now.

>> thomas thanks for your time. derrick, back to you. >> as we've discussed here baltimore is the latest example of a deep divide between police and communities they are sworn to serve. the president said it himself yesterday, this is nothing new. where does it end? let's bring in retired nypd sergeant and professor and claxton, a retired nypd detective and director of the black law enforcement alliance. joe, i think this is a lot of americans first introduction to the baltimore story but those following the narrative, know that relations have been awful for a long time. i was struck by a baltimore sun story that showed since 2011 there have been 102 cases of police brutality towards citizens that have resulted in $5.7 million in settlements

those towards citizens. this speaks to me of just a rotten culture between communities and police vice-versa vice-versa. how did it get so bad in baltimore? >> well when you look at it by the way policing has gone with the pro active approach crime being reduced 50% throughout the whole country, you have the tendency to get more of these types of complaints because you're out there looking for bad guys so to speak. it's more -- they used the word aggressive, i don't like that word but looking for trouble basically and sometimes you find it. these are the types of situations that you'll have to deal with too when they do come up. >> i saw something extraordinary last night out here after the curfew was beginning to be enforced, there were folks throwing bottles, bricks and glass bottles sometimes at police, 10 15 20 things flying at police.

and they were restrained. they did not put the clamp down. in other stiz we've seen a small another of dissent be met about a forceful hand that did not happen here. it seemed that letting off steam and letting the community blow off this steam was effective. is that a strategy that you think often can work? >> definitely. i think a lot of times we have to allow the law enforcement professionals to use a wider level of discretion as far as enforcing certain laws in certain circumstances. and you don't want to risk exacerbating tensions or the situation elevating the level of tension itself. what you'll find is and you have to have understanding from the very beginning, in many protests or demonstrations, that along with those who have a legitimate agenda who come in peace, there will be a criminal opportunist segment, looking for any opportunity to commit a particular crime and also you have as was mentioned earlier,

some aj taters coming to cause chaos. that's a dynamic that exists and you have to be prepared to police given those three separate elements that exist in the demonstration. >> this coverage has been dominating the airways as you know for the past couple of days. a lot of it has been very difficult to watch but last night there were a few moments that brought smiles to people's faces. it all came back to music. there was a guy who maeld me mile. he was impersonating michael jackson, giving him a run for his money along to beat it. he was awesome. i could watch that all day. there was also video of people throwing a block party, dancing to drums on the street. they are smiling and happy. and also today as we report earlier, the baltimore symphony orchestra performed the star spangled banner on the streets of baltimore. talk about the power of music and how it brings people together.

>> this is amazing, we haven't seen anything like this, it's nice to see there are so many good people in the community that want to help heal things. maybe what we see in baltimore which we didn't see ferguson people that want to mend the fences. it's not going to happen overnight but finding a common ground like music and dance and those kind of things might be the way to do so. >> let's speak to that how do we move forward? let's hope we're all hoping and praying that the calm that we saw by and large last night and calm we're seeing in baltimore today we're hoping that lasts and things cannot only return to normal but that the relationship between the community and police can heal. if you are a local cop on the beat there at west baltimore, what are you going to do on the ground to try to build that trust with the community? >> one thing is you have to start with being honest and respectful and transparent. you have to establish those relationships way before there are any elements of violence or

any incidents that occur that can cause community outrage. let's be clear about something, although the music and cohesiveness of the neighborhood was important and vital distraction, especially yesterday, there are still those underlying and overlying issues that have yet to be substantively addressed. until those are addressed, this is only a temporary kind of environment and we can't depend on that environment and attitude and that positivity moving forward unless people feel they have received and are receiving justice. justice is at the core and hard of this situation and no festival, no dancing and by the way i can dance better than that michael jackson imperson ator. >> we'll see that next time. >> next time. >> thanks for being here. >> straight ahead, we'll take you to camden yards for one of the most bizarre ball games ever. there will be no seventh inning stretch today.

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we're back here live from baltimore with something that has never happened in this city or really anywhere in america, a professional sporting event with no fans in attendance. right now the white sox and baltimore orioles are playing in an empty stadium. the game was closed to the public due to security concerns. that unrest already led team officials to postpone two games and move this weekend's series against the tampa bay rays to tropicana field down in florida. kasie hunt is live in camden yards. i should mention she is a self-pro claimed lifelong orioles fan. >> reporter: tour'e it's good to see you, yes, this is a surreal experience as somebody who has spent a lot of time in this stadium when it's packed with people, including for the playoffs, we're up on a hotel

balcony where many fans rent these out and pack them to the gills for games, you have a handful of fans behind me. the orioles are now winning at the top of the sixth inning by a score of 8-2. but again, there's nobody here to cheer at all. the score boards are up and running like they always would be, there's music playing in between the innings and heard the national anthem and handful of hands came up with the usual o in the mid of the star spangled banner which drives other teams crazy. we also heard from the players who held a press conference ahead of this game. some emotional words from the center fielder adam jones who said this is a really hard time to be playing in this ballpark. this is a reflection of the reality of what's been going on in the ground in the city. something that's been really burning and residents have been struggling with for a long time. a collision of symbolism and

reality here in baltimore that's led us to a site that's really unusual. tour'e? >> kasie hunt thanks for that report. before the game members of the orioles talked about playing in front of empty seats. >> i think it's going to be different but obviously the safety of the players and the fans for that matter everybody that's involved is most important. >> obviously, it's unchartered territory and nobody has got experience at all. >> i wish that we had fans to help with the process. sports brings people together black, white, indifferent, they bring us together. for those three hours, have beers and hot dogs and nachos and forget about our daily lives, but today we'll have to play a major league baseball game without any fans. >> joining us now from camden yards, we have brent harris who

covers the orioles for comcast sportsnet. brent, you know this is a sad occasion, i think for me. i get it they've already postponed two games to postpone a third game and have the teams find three other times to meet during the season would be extraordinarily difficult and the city wants to have the police on the streets prepared to go if something happens instead of protecting fans at the stadium. but all at the players always say about playing for the fans and going all out for the fans and see a game go off with no fans, sorts of makes me wonder if that's a bit of a lie perhaps. >> adam jones said before the game that the fans give energy and passion for players to do what they do and obviously not having them in the stadium, it's going to be a different feel. we heard the word surreal. it's something we've never seen before. it is unprecedented for the players to go out there and perform with no audience with

no fans this is a game manny just last inning hit a home run, we would normally be hearing the cheers of the crowd. this place, camden yards, would be rocking, instead it is eye excellent. they are playing a game without way soundtrack. you can hear as soon as a ball is hit you can hear players talk about throw to second play at first. it's that audible. it's just a very odd situation for everybody here, it's just media in the press box and players on the field and certainly for players, it's a very difficult situation to go out. it's not normal from what they usually do. >> brent i have a question on the one handy imagine a lot of orioles are happy with the way it is turning out considering they are winning. >> don't jinx it. >> right. the question to me is why not play this game at the washington nationals stadium just 45 50 minutes away? you have a ballpark there, you

can let in fans. like adam jones said you can give people a reprieve from the situation going on in baltimore. was there any discussion about playing this game at the national stadium and why didn't they? >> well i think it was all about logistics, it was brought up to the manager before the game and he pointed out, there's a lot of things that go into it. team that's have to travel coming in and out of different cities and major league baseball has a rule that you have to every 20 days give teams days off. so rescheduling these games became almost impossible for the white sox, not a team within their division coming into baltimore in a fairly regular basis like if it were against the rays or toronto blue jays moving this game also had a lot of logistical issue. playing under these circumstances ended up being the best solution but certainly not merely ideal. i don't think anybody is happy to play this game today but i think the situation presented itself as one that they just

have to use because it was the only one that was available to them. >> and speaking of not being very happy, brent, i'm sure there are a lot of unhappy fans dying to get into the empty stadium right now. how are they responding to the fact they can't watch the game in person? i imagine the bars are pretty packed at this moment. >> well as i walked around outside camden yards to get to the live shot location across the street the bars that are normally packed just across the street, the pickles and sports bar, are empty. remember there was a lot of unrest and rioting that went right across those bars during the games over the weekend. those are empty today. now, there is about 100, 150 fans just outside the stadium. there's a small little van teenage point in right center field where they can see through the gates and see the game. they are cheering as if they are in the stadium. they are chanting let's go orioles and that's neat to see

but only 150 fans and the view is not that great. >> that's funny. >> all right, brent harris from camden yards, thanks for that. other news of today, including a staggering new number from the historic earthquake in nepal. we're there live next.

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climbers hundreds of feet in the air. it also wiped out the only medical facility on the base camp killing at least 15 maybe 17 people maybe more. >> it is still a developing situation at the epicenter in kathmandu. >> reporter: it's been around 111 hours or so since last saturday's earthquake and the numbers are staggering. as you said 5,000 killed 10,000 injured and over 8 million people affected. we've got this very compelling footage from our drones which you can see the disaster as itself is still unfolding. we got the prime minister assessing reportedly that at least maybe 10,000 people may eventually be counted as dead. now, that's as reports are still

coming in. if his assessment in correct, that would mean that this earthquake's death toll would surpass the death toll of the 1934 quake which has to date been the deadliest in the country's history. 8500 killed back then almost a century ago. now relief equipment is still coming in and airport is still congested but people are getting bitter on the ground. we saw people -- almost 200 people protest outside the parliament today. we saw people scuffle with riot police as well. when their buses, which the government promised them would take them out of the rural areas never arrived. but there's some hope yet. people are putting their do it yourselves hats on. we met some young nepalese activists who have basically put on their can do hats and organizing with their own

facebook pages and online mapping systems and relief supply chains. some organization in the lack of organization so to say, abby. >> thank you so much for that report. turning to a cnbc exclusive that premieres tonight, as you might expect it's about money. it's on cnbc after all. this one is about those who handled cash in all of the wrong ways, people who did not get off the hook following the financial meltdown and those speaking out for first time. cnbc takes us inside the prison walls face to face with some of the biggest white color criminals of our generation. >> i think i'm guilty of being reckless. >> i committed a crime so -- >> going to prison. >> shakedowns and strip searches. >> go where cameras are not allowed until now, the stark reality of time -- >> you do whatever you have to do to keep your sanity.

>> anybody who thinks it club fed, i have people to introduce them to. >> you can kauch white collar convicts life on the inside tonight and you can catch him as co-host of "squawk box." early mornings for you? >> we've been making this documentary almost a year now in between all of the early mornings but we finally got to the prisons which changed the dynamic. >> it's incredible and i'm excited to talk about it. the life for many of these folks is so different from what they were previously experiencing. one you highlight, dennis kes lou xi went from making 100 million a year to this. >> i have no access to a gym or library. i couldn't go to the cafeteria. the food was brought to us. >> he tried to make up for the isolation by landing a laundry job that got him out of his cell six hours each day. >> earned about 85 cents a day

working in the laundry room. >> you went from being paid how much a year? >> a couple of years great appreciation of stock, earned $100 million or something in that neighborhood. >> $100 million in one year -- >> yes. >> to 85 cents a day. it's a big cut in pay. >> amazing, $100 million to 85 cents a day. you talked to a number of these folks, was there anything similar where they didn't feel they deserved to be there? >> there was a couple of things one was watching the journey, the mental journey and how broken they've become for better or worse. everybody in prison is guilty by the way some of them still don't think they are guilty. the ones that are guilty by the way, he admitted his guilty afterwards sort of. sort of an interesting exchange in the documentary about that. but the journey they go on and to see them when they do break and how they break, we went with a guy who had been convicted and

followed him into prison. a week and a half before he went to prison and just -- it was to watch a man break was really something else. but on thor end you say to yourself, okay there's lots of crime that goes on in this world. whether it's drug or violent crime, should these people be treated any differently? and they are, they are nonviolent offenders in with drug -- often times drug dealers or people with drug offenses. and the other flip side you talk about what's going on in baltimore right now, one of the big issues when they go in even white collar guys talk about getting thuged out. there's no rehab going on in the prisons. that was one of the sad lessons. whatever you think of them being there or not, the rehab element -- one guy joe nach yoe, he really -- as a whole different dynamic with a guy like that. >> you talked to a variety of white collar criminals and there

seems a range of reactions on the one hand you have former nypd commissioner say this is deplorable. on the other hand you have this interesting interaction. >> yep. >> there are working members who are going to watch this and say you wake up and you get to go to yoga class and go off to break fast and spend 12 months with your newborn child. this doesn't sound so bad. >> i get that reaction from the people in my life. we have to laugh about it. us that are here. because it's a rest a spiritual retreat. >> how is the audience that looks at you as somebody who pled guilty now saying you are on taxpayer dime at a spiritual retreat? >> it sounds absolutely ridiculous i know. >> on one hand you have most deplorable conditions you could imagine on the other hand spiritual retreat. what did you find?

>> you should know she looks like your neighbor and she could be your pal. she has ripped off people in a big time way. you can still feel bad for her. she's got four kids. her crimes she committed with her husband, her husband also in jail. she went into prison pregnant in month eight. so it's complicated. in the women's prison we found, yes, a solution that was a little bit more curby, if you will and some of the camps they are like big dorm rooms that your freedom is taken away but it's not impossible. at the same time some of these -- any time you have to move from one prison to another, they go on con air, put in with drug dealers and violent offenders. it's a mixed bag. >> such fascinating stuff. everyone should watch tonight. >> god bless you, thank you for saying that and thank you for having me. >> back to tour'e and our coverage from baltimore.

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>> new comments this afternoon. the first comments in fact from our newly sworn in attorney general loretta lynch, eric holder took on ferguson and lynch on her second full day on the job is dealing head on with the newest issue dividing our country. joining us now is "washington post" opinion writer and msnbc contributor, john than capehart who just returned to d.c. from baltimore. great to have you. let's start with loretta lynch, really tried to tackle these challenges head on. do we expect the same from her? >> maybe not the same approach but she and her predecessor, eric holder are coming at this from the same foundation that the rule of law and respect for law enforcement is paramount but so is care and concern for people of baltimore and the

anger the simmering anger, longstanding anger of the people of baltimore and in terms of their treatment at the hands of baltimore police. the "the baltimore sun" last year did an incredible story on the undue force of the baltimore police department and so when you have people demonstrating over the death of freddie gray, leave aside what happened on monday. people have been protesting since he died april 19th. there's a reason for that. >> cameras on cops has gone from being a marginal issue to a mainstream one. hillary clinton had this to say in a speech earlier today. >> we should make sure every police department in the country has body cameras to record interactions between officers on patrol and suspects. that will improve transparency and accountability. it will help protect good people on both sides of the lens.

>> jonathan is hillary going to be alone on this issue, or do you think other campaigners are going to join her? >> if those other campaigns are smart, they will join her. what we have seen in the last year is that video is a very powerful thing. we're talking about freddie gray, walter scott. >> when people can see what happens, there's accountability there on both sides. some could say the camera on the police officer might make the police officer instead of reacting with overwhelming force, think a little harder about what they're going to do to someone.

>> yesterday, president obama and senator rand paul both spoke about something they're passionate about, but also something that could be politically sensitive. they talk about the importance of a father figure in children's lives. >> where children are born into abject poverty, they've got parents often because of substance abuse problems or incarceration or lack of education themselves can't do right by their kids. communities where there are no fathers who can provide guidance to the young men. >> it's something we talk about not in the immediate aftermath, but over time. you know the breakdown of the family structure. the lack of fathers. the lack of sort of a moral code in our society. this isn't just a racial thing. >> both of those statements

sound somewhat similar. as you know rand paul has gotten a lot of criticism for what he's said. is that because he's a republican? >> that might play a part in it. but i'm glad you played those two sound bytes side by side. they're both basically saying the same thing with varying degrees of, you know warmth if you will. but they're saying something, both of them are saying something that i heard on the street in a conversation i had with two men, cedric and keyon, about what they thought was happening there. yes, it was keyon who said flat-out, you know we're supposed to have role models. he's talking about their neighborhood there. but our role models because of the drug plague that went through baltimore earlier, he said our role models you know they're dealing with drugs. they're not in a position to give us any guidance. and cedric said it's going to be up to us, the current

generation. they're 23 and 24 years old. they're now viewing themselves as the role model for the generation that's beginning togoing to come up behind them. the president and the senator are saying things that the young people on the ground there know full well they are very cognizant of that. >> we talk about fathers, we talk about body cameras. the issue around policing and what's been happening over the last year is larger than those two issues. and it seems certain to me that the issue of policing whether you think that we need reform or the status quo is just fine for you, that issue is going to be huge in the 2016 race. >> oh absolutely. when you've got rand paul who's talking about it. the president who's talking about it. secretary clinton who's talking about it. in all the powerful pockets here in washington and around the country, people are looking at this and talking about it. i think it has to do with the fact that the american people over the last 12 months have

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today out here on north and pennsylvania, it's pretty quiet for the most part. but yesterday it was basically a party out here. we saw this marching band come through in the afternoon. it was an extraordinarily exuberant scene. this is three or four projects in baltimore coming together putting together this massive marching band. thunderous drums. pompoms. really cute dancers.

it was a party out here before the curfew started to be enforced. it was about baltimore trying to show its best side and some folks are suspicious of the media out here. but some folks keep coming up to us and saying thank you for being here. because they say you are helping to show our better side not the other side that a lot of folks are seeing and they want to see that. they want that show the best side of baltimore. >> yeah i think the thing that i'm certainly hoping is that now that the violence has waned and we're hoping to god that it continues and stays that way, that the attention doesn't wane. that there's an organization, that there is a movement that moves people across the country to make real political change here, because that's what needs to happen. >> yeah there's thousands of abandoned homes. there's lots to be done after the media leaves. that does it for "the cycle." live from baltimore today. "now with alex wagner" starts right now. >> the death toll is still rising in nepal, as aide workers

struggle to reach the hardest hit regions. hundreds of women and girls are rescued from boko haram. and hillary clinton delivers her first major campaign policy speech calling for criminal justice reform. but first, the baltimore orioles are back in camden yards, but the fans are not. it's wednesday, april 29th, and this is "now." >> calm and order restored in baltimore. >> right now, the curfew is lifted and students are back at school. >> we have had 35 arrests. of those 35 arrests, 34 were adults and one was a juvenile. >> things are back to normal if you count as normal seeing armed police officers and national guardsmen on every corner. >> after cancelling two games in a row, the baltimore orioles will finally play this afternoon. >> it's the first time in u.s. sports history that teams will be