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over. let me repeat. this does not mean the investigation is over. if new evidence is found, we will follow it. if new direction is given by the state's attorney we'll obey and follow through with the investigation. >> the rising tide from baltimore to minneapolis, across the midwest to california, and new york. protests spreading from coast to coast supporting baltimore's demand for answers in the death of freddie gray. >> we need to be out here everyday pressuring them so they do investigation. police can't investigation themselves. >> over and over we don't get justice because there are laws put in place to protect police. the thing is there's no police accountability and transparency. the challenger this hour, bernie sanders, makes it official. >> i will be running in a sense as an independent democrat in the democrat process is. the reason is from etpretty simple.
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i am not a billionaire. in the pile a teenager is pulled from the collapsed floors 120 hours after the earthquake hit. >> when you see it the floors are within feet of each other. floor after floor in a five foot span. >> your victim is pancaked between two floors. >> it is amazing he was still there alive. good day everyone. i'm in washington. we begin with breaking news in baltimore. in the last hour the police department announced the investigation in the death of freddie gray has been handed over to the state's attorney. the report includes information about a second previously unknown stop made by the van carrying gray after he was taken into police custody.
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>> the second stop has been revealed to us during the course of our investigation and was previously unknown to us. we discovered this new stop based on thorough comprehensive, ongoing review of all cameras and privately owned cameras. in fact this new stop has been -- was discovered from a privately owned camera. >> nbc ron alan and nbc tore from baltimore. thank you both. ron, what do we know about the report confusion of the timing why it was delivered to state's attorney a day earlier than we expected. >> reporter: police are saying they're doing this to get ahead of things. they're saying it shows how aggressive they are, how they're trying to answer questions that people have. folks in the community we've been talking to gathering across town see it as another step of
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deception. they felt that by tomorrow there was going to be full disclosure. they thought there would be finality to this investigation by tomorrow. so anything short of that is seen as a big problem, as contributing to the deep distrust that exists between the police department and many people in the community. i would dare say the great family. i was talking to a pastor very close to the family who was adamant he feels this is not a step forward and that police would reveal the second stop they have discovered via this private video. also for many people it speaks to and reveals something negative, something sinister if you will about how the police are going about this investigation. the bottom line is today we are fake taking steps backwards not
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forward. people here think anything short of finality and account of what happened during the arrest of gray, anything short is going to fall short of closure here. >> the major tweeted the family of mr. gray wants answers. i want answers. our entire city deserves answers. we will remain vigilant on this path to get answers. people expected a report which would reveal what happened by may 1st. then they were told it's just a report to the state's attorney. first of all, why no autopsy results? it's been a couple of weeks and we still don't know what the cause of death was. >> that's absolutely right. several have echo had the same sentiment. they thought they would get that same finality and report. they thought they would get something friday. they were never supposed to get
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something friday. now when folks from government are saying we were never going to give you something final friday they're saying can we trust you? are you being transparent? let me set the scene at the corner of north and pennsylvania. we're in front of the cvs boarded up. you see various chalk memorials and drawings. you see the peace line with heart for freddie gray. over here by the corner we see fewer people out than there traditionally have been at this corner. we see police arranged in a different formation we've seen before. traditionally they have been staged over here on the side of north avenue. today we see police loosely arrayed at all four corners as if they're almost ready for something. we see plastic handcuffs. are they expecting an unplanned march. we're not sure if that's going to happen. we're not sure what's going to happen here now. a lot of people on edge.
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they expected something to come tomorrow. right now they expect they may not get it. that's making folk frustrated. >> this is what the commissioner had to say about this the delay about getting this report out and disclosing anything to the public. >> i understand the frustration. i understand the sense of urgency. so has the organization and that's why we have finished a day ahead of time. i also know getting the right answer is more important than speed making sure we overturn and look under every rock is more important than coming forth giving a document. >> we don't know how people will react to this. there's got to be more frustration than acceptance of this 24 hour advance on the release of just the information that the report has been turned over when nobody yet knows in
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the public what happened. >> reporter: andrea i was here last night when the congressman and state senator cummings and pugh were here. they were saying there's going to be a large stack of documents released. don't expect things to move quickly. expect things to move with all deliberate speed. that's what they're telling the people. that's frustrating to people. people expected to get answers tomorrow, maybe today. they're not going to be getting them now. that message is going out. it doesn't lead to people having the sense there's transparency in this investigation. that's making people frustrated. i'm hearing that throughout the city. >> thanks so much toure. as we mentioned, baltimore remained calm overnight.
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demonstrators showed support for baltimore around the country. in baltimore, dozens of protestors were released from jail including juveniles with no previous records. we spoke to one of the teens arrested. >> going into court you have chains around your ankles. >> yes, ma'am. >> what was that like? >> felt hard to walk. felt i was going to fall. a caved animal. that's what i felt like. >> like a caged animal? >> yes, ma'am. >> joining me now from outside baltimore city hall i was watching you last night. you were really concerned about the way some of these young people were treated. >> reporter: concerned not only how the young people were treated yesterday, but the
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office is concerned with how young people are treated everyday in the criminal justice system. what this young man experienced, that's what young people experience all the time. it's humiliating. from the public defend's office, they feel it's not necessary to put children -- i'm going to call them children. some 16-year-olds may not want to be called a child -- but in the eyes of law and his parents, that's what he is. of those young people in the juvenile detention center as a result of being arrested at least two were 11 or 12 years old. they were also my understanding is they were also shackled with iron bars around their ankles. their hands handcuffed behind their backs. could be a dramatic experience for a young person. this young man says he doesn't want to go through that ever again. he had never been through that
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before. >> and his father carlos sr. was there. i wanted to play a little of. that. >> you're saying your song didn't have to go through this. >> this isn't the lifestyle i would want him to go through at all. i tried my best not to let him go through central booking, juvenile looking. i instilled in him what i parents instilled in me. i try to teach him the better way and tell him i made enough mistakes for both of us, for all my kid cans. >> you see cycles and cycles of young people treated this way. i mean the larger picture is that political figures in both parties now. hillary clinton most memorable yesterday talking about the incarceration, some because of her husband's policies in 1994 with the three strikes and you're out bill has led to people being arrested and
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imprisoned for victimless crimes. most of those are african-americans. >> reporter: absolutely. you hear it a lot when you talk to some of those that have been arrested and particularly to those trying to defend those arrested on petty crimes. it was a revealing experience to be in the juvenile court yesterday and talk with those that act again as the public defenders of those that are picked up. they say again what we saw yesterday of the shackles and kids being scared of what's happening and potentially getting criminal records is something they see all the time. think don't think it's necessary. they think it's more punitive than it needs to be. >> thank you so much. right now on capitol hill bernie sanders is making it official he's off and running for president as a democrat. up next, the life long independent explains why. and later -- >> the chopper at embassy really
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the american people are facing good people. >> the independent senator will run in the democrat field in 2016. yesterday i caught up with the senator before his big announce to the talk about why. what is inspiring you to challenge hillary clinton which is the front runner by everyone's accounts? >> it's not taking on hillary clinton that's interesting. it's addressing the very, very serious crisis facing our country. crises that have to be addressed. we have people working longer hours for lower wages. at the same time we've seen huge increase in income of wealth and inequality. the top perone tenth of 1% own
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almost as much wealth as the top per percent. that's not what america should be about. billionaires, as a result of citizens united supreme court addition, are buying inging inging candidates and elections. not what american democracy is supposed to be b about. >> hillary clinton says she's the champion of everyday americans. why isn't she the best standard for the party? >> we'll let the american people make that decision. i have been working the last 25 to 30 years on behalf of working families. i have stood up and fought against disastrous trade agreements for example that have shut down plants in america and moved jobs to china and other low wage countries. i've been leader on climate change against the keystone pipeline. i have introduced legislation breaking up largest wall street
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banks that have so much economic and political power over the nation. i'm out there to defend real issues. i'm sure secretary clinton will do the best to make her case. >> her campaign is supposed to raise $1.5 billion. yet she wants constitutional amendment to limb limit campaign spending. is that legitimate? >> in the past i have received a higher percentage of small donations than any member of the united states senate. my senate are not going to be billionaires. we'll be heavily out spent. >> what about the money her campaign relies on from the same people that contributed to the
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clinton foundation? do you have concerns about foreign money going into the foundation when she was secretary of state? >> i do but i have concern about the unbelievably horrendous role money is playing on all campaigns. i think raising questions about secretary clinton's funding is legitimate. i think we have ask about about motives of republican billionaires that want to give tax breaks. >> she's come out about the ceos and hedge fund executives are making such extraordinary amounts of money. she was obviously the senator from new york and wall street. does she have a problem here in being credible? >> well look this is an issue that i have been talking about for years. in the united states ceos make
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300 times what their workers make. i think that is simply immoral and an issue that has to be dealt with. it's an issue part of legislation dealing with. >> you're an independent in the senate. you're running as a democrat. how do you justify running as a democrat when you're an independent? >> that's fair question. i've been elected in vermont as an independent. i'll be running in the sense as an independent democrat within the democrat primary process. the reason is pretty simple. i am not a billionaire. to run outside of the two party system would require enormous sums of money and great expenditure of energy and time just to get on the ballot. i think right now the best path forward to win this election to raise the important issues that the american people are deeply concerned about, need to create jobs, need for health care for
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all, need to deal with climate change. i can do that best running in the democratic primary process. >> will you support her if she turns out to be the democratic nominee? >> that's premature and see what happens. i'll most certainly not be supporting right wing republican candidates. that's for sure. >> thank you. good luck on the trail. >> thank you. >> you can catch a live interview with bernie sanders tonight on "the ed show." first interview since announcing. on cnbc. a teen pulled from the rubble of a building five days since the earthquake happened in nepal. you're watching msnbc. building aircraft, the likes of which the world has never seen. this is what we do.
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country. a symbolic win for a nation surrounded by so much loss. >> joining me now from kathmandu, it's extraordinary. you came from visiting the young teen in the hospital. tell me how is he? >> reporter: he's doing remarkably well. no broken bones no serious injuries. dehydrated and very hungry. he was eating oreo cookies and granola bars. doctors say he is doing well and should be released in about two days. he's clearly shell shocked as to be expected say medical experts. he did have access to food and little bit of water which is the reason he was able to survive so long. really incredible story. doctors and first responders were able to dig him out. >> thank you for bringing us such extraordinary news. thank you for your work there too. up next, nearly two years after their battle began, the
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we were below the 88th southern parallel. we had traveled
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the same symptoms are there. >> democratic leader nancy pelosi from california but a baltimore native. her brother and father were both mayors. her brother was the mayor when 1968 unrest happened. i'm joined by someone else that knows quite a bit about baltimore and loves baltimore. actress star m.d. the tv series "the wire" crime drama set in baltimore. she started a non profit she ran for five years for incarcerated youth to turn their lives around. thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> you have spent so much time with people of baltimore, with the young people. one issue we're addressing is whether some of the laws the crime bill of 1994 under bill clinton as hillary clinton said yesterday led to mass incarcerations. many tell us incarcerations that disproportionately affected african-american men. >> oh absolutely.
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and i think that it's a -- there are a course of low lying issues of injustice in that city and throughout our nation that are at the root of what we saw a couple days ago and what's happening now. i think that what's happening in baltimore is also a result of the treatment of the black residents, especially men and boys of color by law enforcement on the street. the cultural violence against black men and boys who are in custody. there's a history of the kind physical violence against men in custody that the police department, that those six police officers are accused of right now. >> can you relate to this situation? you played a police officer in "the wire." at the same time you're sensitive to the issues of how
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law enenforsforcement and even african-american officers and you have an african-american police chief. you say color -- race exists still among law enforcement officials even those of color. >> absolutely. racism is not simply about color. it's about who has the power. you know as far as baltimore is concerned, i would say that it's more about the police their power in an unjust way and brutal fashion. it's been going on so long that black residents, particularly in marginal xized communities, have become use to it. this is something that they know -- this culture of violence
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against them is something that is -- for lack of a better word accepted. it's a way of life. so they know that if you get arrested there's going to be physical violence against you. certainly that there's -- and that has beaten the spirits of the people down. and now what you're seeing is after decades of this kind of treatment, the people can take it no more. so this is the only outlet. and honestly -- what do you expect when a lot of healthy coping mechanisms that our young people need. after school programs enrichments are not funded and not present in their communities. but liquor stores are. andrea don't get me started. i could really go down that track.
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i believe that's at the root of all. >> in the last couple of days there's been more community outreach. yesterday the symphony out on the streets playing. today the ravens and brandon williams, a nose tackle was out there. watch. >> when things like this happen we like to come bring hope to the community. we're passing out toiletries and food items. we're passing out hope giving people hope that a better day will be on the horizons. >> sonia thank you so much. you and others are speak up for baltimore that have not been well served for decades. maybe this can be a turning point and more of a conversation and not just the case. >> thank you. >> thanks so much for being with us. >> already. thank you. here in washington two years ago, proponents of same sex marriage took a big step towards equality at the supreme court.
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in two months millions of americans will find out if justices will take another major step. the plaintiffs in the supreme court case that ended ban on same sex marriage in 2013. you were one of the two couples that brought that case. so good to meet you in person. >> thank you for having us. >> you were briefly able to get into the chamber of rotation as onlookers took place. what was your impression sandy of being in there to hear this most definitive argument? >> felt honored to be in the court to bear witness to arguments tuesday for these two incredibly important cases and bringing marriage equality to all in our country. and feeling hopeful this is going to be the case the time we have the major turning point in our country. >> one of the big arguments in the mission question that was argued was according to the argument from the michigan
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attorney a that same sex couples can't be good parents because they bond out of affinity and love but not to have children. you have four among you. how did you react to that? >> every time the other side raised this it's been maddening. to think of ourselves, our kids our family and how much we love each other and how much we try to be upstanding citizens and model for them what it means to be part of a community. to have people walk into court without knowing us or tens of thousands of other families and make comments and declare families like ours aren't equal and not as good. sends a terrible message to couples and to our kids and their friends. it sends a negative message i think we've seen terrible results from. kids feel terrible when that happens. >> the court is deeply divided.
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there's one swing vote, justice kennedy, who talked about how marriage is defined by relationships of men and women for a long time. he talked about the dignity. >> marriage is an institution that's changed, grown, shifted over many years as society has shifted and changed. when we see now, many families do have a same sex couple heading up that family. all families do deserve the dignity and legal and protections and social acceptance that the institution of marriage brings. marriage is good for family, good for children, good for couples, good for society. i thinks that it's an amazing thing to bear witness to change in our country. it's good for everybody. >> and couples that don't have the choice or don't want to have children. >> one of the things notable to
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both of us in the years we've been married and we hope it happens for couples fighting for their rights now. just getting to reduce the word this is a might have or describe myself as a married person. i see reactions from strangers, people that a own stores when you make a reservation. there's different acknowledgment and recognition. this is a responsibility as well a right. sandy and i are feeling fortunate we get to enjoy that responsibility and right. we know already from first hand experience what this has done to enhance our lives. >> your kids must be very proud of you indeed. we hope to talk to you in a couple of months as we find out what happens most likely in june. great to meet you in person. >> thank you. hillary clinton carving out her own identity as a candidate breaking ranks in a key part of her husband's legacy is. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc.
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well the baltimore ravens are making a play to help restore the community's spirit in baltimore as we reported. two bus loads of coaches and players visited with students today and delivered boxes of food and supplies. while they're out reaching out to the community, hillary clinton is blaming in part what happened in baltimore on some of the key policies law enforcement decisions made by her husband while he was president. joining me now for our daily fix, chris and huffington political editor sam stein. welcome to you both. sam, this is a case where hillary clinton is taking step by step to first of all move left and identify herself very differently from the clinton white house years. >> yeah well i wouldn't say it's moving left per se.
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a lot of conservatives like paul and rick is spoken up about their desire to see criminal justice reform. this bridges the divide. this is a break with her husband's record which was a lot about spending more money to put cops on the street more arrests, getting cleaner neighborhoods, et cetera etc. now of course the times were different. you were dealing with huge crime waves in the early 90s that a lot of democrats thought they needed to respond to. joe biden was one of the same democrats who today had the same conversion. times are different. it's definitely a philosophical break from where her husband stood decades ago. >> there's support in republican field for some of these steps because will there was a crack cocaine epidemic. they did three strikes you're out. they built prisons and hundreds
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of thousands of african-american men around the country were arrested for victimless or petty crimes. in other areas, she is moving left i think you could say on trade. chris, she certainly is signaling she is not comfortable with the proposed trade deal whereas her husband was there nafta. and on the marriage act he signed. times have moved and both evolved. >> i just got from watching bernie sanders announcement speech. i don't think sanders is beating hillary clinton in a primary, but he will represent the beating liberal progressive heart of the party that she doesn't. now liberals are fine with her being the nominee. i don't think there's huge unrest on the left of her being the nominee. i think they do want her to pay some attention to their issues whether it be on trade. she's talked about campaign nequality.
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she's not your traditional populist. he very much is. he'll drive a contrast of a sort and move her further in that direction. she's also point out going in that direction. i would say probably though it's always difficult to distinguish her politics from her husband's. she's probably more naturally liberal than he is. we're going to find that a out in many more ways i think as this campaign carries on. >> she was in the white house even though it wasn't reported widely back then. bernie sanders could have made the announcement inside. according to ethics laws others have. he moved it outside to make that point. he was very critical in his interview about the money and experience of conflict of interests in the book. that's really an issue he's
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going to talk about, money and politics. >> yeah and i was looking at his first cspan appearance in late 80s when he was mayor. he was talking about these same issues, about the dangers of u.s. becoming ol gar ki. it's something repeated and become up in the post era. it's one of the main contrasts he has with with hillary clinton. she can move left with issues we talked about but she'll tie issues to the party. that's what bernie and others will focus on in the months a ed. >> we've got to leave it there. up next film maker rory kennedy's extraordinary film about the day saigon fell 40 years ago today. you're watching msnbc. prz ♪ building aircraft,
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. today marks 40 years since the fall of saigon and end of america's devastating war. a new academy award accounts the final days in detail including the evacuation of american military diplomats and thousands of vietnamese. u.s. allies were trying to escape. it tells stories of officials that defied orders to help others get out. >> myself and others took the bull by the horns and organized an evacuation. in my case, that meant friends of mine that were senior officers in south vietnamese military. as north vietnamese came closer and closer to saigon these people were dead men walking. i had arranged signal with intelligence community friends that said if i'm having a barbecue that meant come to a
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predesignated place with your family and suitcase. the party meant i was going to get them out. black ops were essentially violating the rules. in this case meaning you're not allowed to bring out vietnamese military people who were under obligation to stand and fight. we were fully expecting if we got caught doing this we would be run out of country, end of career do not pass go. but sometimes there's an issue not of legal and illegal but right or wrong. >> anne marie kennedy joins me now. congratulations on the academy award nomination. tell me about the story you uncovered so much. those that lived through this did not know about diplomats and others defying others to try to help the south vietnamese escape. >> i think that's right andrea.
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that's one of the reveals of this film. when we look back on vietnam, it's not a bright shining moment in our nation's history. when you watch this film and see heroic acts by the americans and many south vietnamese who arguably risk their lives, certainly risk their jobs to try to save as many vietnamese as possible particularly this the last 24 hours, it's an extraordinary thing. i've gotten so many e-mails and feedback from the film about how -- i think the film takes an unflinching look at government policy at the time and fact we abandoned vietnamese at this moment in history. it also celebrates americans and makes people proud. >> and one of the things that i was always unaware of and saw the film replayed on pbs which was great this week -- >> thank you -- >> is the people that barely got out. the marines at end.
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there were 11 of them. let me play a little of that clip. >> when that chopper landed i told the marines, go get in. i was the last one out. as i was putting my foot on the ramp, i fell down. i'm just hanging on and the ramp is going up. >> the ramp was closing. i did what i was trained in my first tour count. i went one, two, three, ten. one, two, three, ten. ten? i looked at the crew chief and said put it down. i knew i was missing one man. i remember looking at the ramp and two hands were over the top of it. >> so the marines grabbed me and just pulled me in. >> the last marine out of vietnam from the roof of the embassy. >> this is one of so many stories and incidents that
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happened during those last 24 hours. i think so many of us feel that we know this story, we're familiar with the iconic image of a helicopter on top of with what we think is the embassy. it's not even the u.s. embassy. here's another moment few people know that 11 marines were forgotten on top of the embassy. they were left there. there was a press conference all americans are out we're done. he got the call saying actually there's 11 marines there. we've got to send another helicopter. there's so many dramatic events and moments during this 24 hours. it's extraordinary. it's kbnbeen wonderful to share with people. >> brilliantly filmed and told. >> thank you for having me. >> congratulations indeed. that does it for us on this
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