elieve that we have probable cause to file criminal charges. lieutenant rice, officer miller and officer nero failed to establish probable cause to mr. gray's arrest as no crime had been committed by mr. gray. accordingly lieutenant rice and officer miller and officer nero illegally arrested mr. gray. at no point was he secured by a seat belt while in the wagon contrary to a bpd general order. mr. gray suffered a severe and critical neck injury as a result of being handcuffed and shackled by his feet and unrestrained inside of the bpd wagon. despite mr. gray's seriously deteriorating medical condition, no medical assistance was rendered or summoned for mr. gray at that time. these accusations of these six officers are not an indictment on the entire force. >> i'm tour'e live again in baltimore. a city where many feel this is

the first step towards accountability and perhaps justice being served. charges against the six officers involved in what the state's attorney calls the unlawful arrest of 25-year-old freddie gray. one officer faces second degree depraved heart murder charges and three others facing involuntary manslaughter and misconduct in office are also among the charges. the most severe carries a sentence up to 30 years in prison. right now members of the baltimore united coalition are march from the baltimore state's attorney's office heading right here to city hall. we start with msnbc's craig melvin. what do you got? >> reporter: let's start with the six officers who were charged tour'e five of them we know at this point are in custody. the mayor held a news conference roughly an hour ago. she did not give anymore information where that sixth officer is. at this point, we've got a

number of calls out as well number of calls out to find out where that officer is and whether he's going to be turning himself in in the near future. the officers have also we're told been suspended. the mayor asked commissioner batz to suspend the officers immediately. up until this point they had been suspended but suspended with pay. that supposedly changed a short time ago we're told. we can also tell you that moving forward at this point, it appears as if that the mayor expects this is coming from a mayor staffer, she expects the protests and rallies this weekend should be peaceful. it's very interesting to hear the state's attorney during the news conference not just detail the charges but to in some ways layout part of the case -- layout part of the case against the officers talking in some detail about precisely why they were charged.

>> extraordinary day. thank you very much for that. president obama reacted to the charges. let's listen to that. >> and justice needs to be served. all of the evidence needs to be presented and those individuals who are charged obviously are also entitled to due process. people of baltimore want more than anything else is the truth. that's what people around the country expect i'm gratified we've seen the constructive thoughtful protests that have been taking place, peaceful but clear calls for accountability that those have been managed over the last couple of days in a way that's ultimately positive for baltimore and positive for the country. i hope that approach to

nonviolent protests and community engagement continues. >> here with me now, baltimore city councilman brandon scott. he serves on the city's public safety committee. councilman, when i was in the hood talking to people there was a tremendous amount of citizens and did not expect justice to be served. and now it seems folks are saying, the system is actually working. >> well, we know that's why we elected a new state's attorney in our city because we did not have hope in the previous state's attorney and as myself i went out for the state's attorney as well but today's decision is not justice or injustice, this is the infancy stages of this process. as leaders it's up to us to remain and explain to folks that there going to be processes moving forward but this is not the end but beginning of the process. >> folks can say what they want about what happened to freddie gray in the truck but what we've

seen from police officers since then, what i've seen with my own eyes tuesday night and wednesday night was an extraordinary amount of restraint from the police. we're getting two different messages. what do you think this moment does go forward for relations between community and police in the city? >> i think they are going forward police community -- this should be the cat putting changing event for everything wrong about my city that i love baltimore. all going to have to be uncomfortable and let our personal feelings and religions aside and work together to make our city whole again. that's the only way this is going to happen. we'll have to have policy changes and changes in mindset and culture. folks have to look at themselves in the mirror and make changes to themselves as well in order tore this change. we'll see great things. my local demand commander in my district have been working on trying to have a sports program where police officers are the coaches for young kids. we'll continue with things like

that to make sure small pieces to restore the relationship. >> a lot of people were nervous about what today would bring if the state's attorney didn't say anything or said something different. so now that this announcement has come out, what do you expect the mood to be tonight? do you think that folks will be sort of pushing against the cops any way? i spoke to an officer earlier who said perhaps things will be peaceful because of these announcements, perhaps things will be a little bit more aggressive because people will feel like this proves that the cops are out to get us sort of thing. >> i think the majority of people will be peaceful. a lot of folks will be excited and enjoying what they feel is a victory to make it feel like their lives matter again. we know there's always a small few -- i want to let the nation know, the majority of young people in baltimore are not violent and do not want violence in their city. we have a few folks, some of whom not even from baltimore,

who are starting problems and we'll have to deal with those people accordingly. most folks do not want that and they are going to be peaceful because they do not want to destroy. >> we've seen that folks wanting nonviolence and peace despite a small pocket of peace who want something different. back to you. >> thank you so much tour'e. here with us in the studio is former baltimore police commissioner kevin clark. it's a pleasure to have you with us. first i wanted you to tell us your reaction to the charges filed against the six officers and speak to your experience when you were head of the baltimore pd, was this practice of rough rides something you were familiar with and was an issue? >> your first question i'm not surprised that there were going to be some criminal charges brought in this case. what i am surprised is that the number of officers charged, some of the charges against them. and i think it's unprecedented that this is probably one of the first times that we actually see

managers in a police department held accountable, lieutenant sergeant, normally it trickles down to troops on the street and bosses who shall accountable for actions escape. >> another charge that is unusual is false imprisonment which pertains to the prosecutor's saying this wasn't a justified probable cause arrest in the first place. talk to us from your experience as a law enforcement leader about the difference between an injury that might be sustained in an open live interaction when there would usually be more danger to police versus here where the individual was already basically under detention? >> well that charge is going to be something that i'm sure the prosecutor is going to really have to make stick. in certain areas as you know if mr. gray was in an area deemed a hot spot a place of known criminal activity was occurring in a police officer works in that particular command is aware of that you pull up and do see

somebody run, you at least have reasonable suspicion to pursue that person. if you were standing on park avenue and 34th street and started running down the street and it's not known for criminal history, et cetera it might be hard to explain why you were chaseing something. to make it it was an illegal arrest, what i think we're looking at is what was written down on the charging document against mr. gray. what they wrote down and said were the reasons that they went after him. but just because they chased him in those areas, i'm not sure exactly where it started with the history of that location is and have people been shot there and drugs there and other quality of life issues that may give the officers some reason to explain why they went after mr. gray. >> the big takeaway here is that the police department is obviously in real need of reform. this is about more than just these six officers. you're someone who has run the department before. if you were still in charge

what would you be telling your officers and what changes would you be thinking about putting in place right now? >> i don't think it's just something that issier germane to the police department, the broken windows, quality of life at some point what's being used throughout the country to reduce crime which is down at record lows, we're still using the same medicine to treat the patient. it's overdosing the public and those people who are out there in the street that they call thugs and other things really that was more or less a revolt by the youth who these oppressive tactics continuously used by police are having a big effect on their life. you get a couple of summons and arrested for things that are minor and have nothing to do with patterns of crime in your neighborhood sitting in a park drinking a beer at the basketball game and get a summons. four years later when you try to

become a police officer or fireman it is preventing you from getting a job. >> do you think it will dig a deeper hole in the mistrust between the police officers and the black community? >> i think that's an overstatement. people in the minority communities do trust the police. there's a small percentage of people who will never trust the police because of maybe bad experience with them family members, et cetera got a bad deal. 95% of the people go to a doctor and pulls out the needle nobody wants to seep the the needle. what's in the needle can save your life and do good for you. you do need us -- most people support us and that small percentage of people are never going to support the police. it's really that issue is being overblown. the black community, latin community, they do support the police. >> let's talk about this weekend, do you think it's time to lift the curfew now that we had a few peaceful nights? how would you be preparing for a

weekend that's uncertain? we'll have some action and protests and marches and there's always that uncertainty that things could turn a corner again. >> it would be unwise at this time to relax any curfews, any show of police presence or even the military's presence in the area. their job is to protect the law abiding public maintain order within the city. to pull out now would be a big mistake. you havage taters in there with no interest in what happened to mr. gray. they have their own agenda and other people with other issues going on. right now you have to maintain and stabilize the city itself and you have to also make sure people have the right to gather and protest in an orderly manner. >> mr. clark you used to lead the baltimore police department. knowing what we know now, should the members of this police department stand by these six police defendants at this point or not? >> it's not a matter of whether the officers have to stand by and openly stand by.

they have a union that represents them. they are going to get very good legal representation. i can guarantee you, they'll get some of the best lawyers around. the officers will have to think more about what they are doing on the street. i think right now it's pretty much a blow to what they think they should be doing. a big issue now is that the way we police in united states now, it's taken a discretion away from the police officer on the beat out there. everything is reduced crime, anything quality of life is zero tolerance, et cetera. and these officers never had the opportunity like in the old days where you had the opportunity to tell a guy, take a walk down the block. leave the park. now they have to enforce and have to enforce. the old generals running police departments need to pay attention to what's going on in the street. >> time for a rethink in baltimore and elsewhere. we appreciate your insight. >> much more ahead from

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the manner of death deemed a homicide by the examiner is said to be a result of the injury that occurred while mr. gray was unrestrained by a seat belt in the custody of the police department wagon. >> we have jay gray with more on investigation and what to expect tonight. what do you got? >> reporter: tour'e, you've been on the ground and seen the swing and attitude of what's going on. another swing here today after the decision was announced and we've seen a lot of people celebrating or at least breathing a sigh of relief here. the protests expected to continue. there's a martha should wind up here outside of city hall at some point this afternoon. to discuss moving forward here and not only freddie gray but the changes that they believe are necessary and the way police interact with this community. the accountability for those police. as a result of protests expected to continue through the weekend

police and naturalional guard say they will stay at their post and the curfew will remain in place at least through the weekend. let's listen to what the governor had to say. >> we're going to make sure we have enough presence on the ground to take care of any vulalty. we know a lot of people will be out tonight and a lot more people in town tomorrow. >> reporter: yeah thousands expected to gather here and had planned to do that before the decision was announced today, it will be interesting to see the interaction and how things play out now that the case is moving forward. >> thanks for that jay. as we've been hearing and jay mentioned, there are people celebrating in this town but there's much more to be done with this case. >> indeed thank you so much tour'e. as you have been reporting in baltimore, the issues confronting the community go way beyond race. poverty and economic despair shouldn't be left to the police

alone to fix them selves. >> we can't just leave this to the police, you have impofrished communities where children are born into abjekt poverty. they've got parents often because of substance abuse problems or incarceration or lack of education themselves can't do right by their kids. if it's more likely that those kids end up in jail or dead than they they go to college. >> in an extensive interview request "gq" former baltimore police officer talks about this very issue and how conditions in those neighborhoods affect not only those that live there but those trying to keep them safe. author of "cop in the hood" thank you for being with us.

take us into the mind of the sort of rank in file police officer, the cop on the beat. how do they view these charges? do you feel the police officers may be a few bad apples but there but the grace of god go i. >> i feel the latter. most cops instinctively see it as an attack on them and others feel there's a strong feeling in police if you do something wrong you deserve to be punished. there is criminal responsibility. most police will sort of say, well that's how it works. that's our system. >> you have this interview in "gq" that had a lot of people talking. this is not a race thing, this is a class issue and in this four block radius you have no education, no jobs all the while no one is even paying attention to that and on top of all that, cops hate the ghetto. how you can protect and serve a community you hate? >> you do your best and most try to be professional about it but

it does transcend race. a lot of african-american officers are from those areas so they see it as a class issue. it's not just gee ogfy and not everyone in the neighborhood cops know there's good people there as well but they don't have to deal with the good people. they are dealing with people who can't handle their own problems or committing crimes. you do it day after day, it's tiring. >> peter, i was out there on tuesday night when cops were prepared for a riot didn't come, they are prepared for it. you can see the community can see they were afraid that they were in fear. they were extraordinarily restrained that evening but they did feel that fear. it's very difficult or is it possible to judiciously police an area where you are afraid of the residents? >> i think the fear of that was fear of the unknown. my -- we had less than a day of riot training in the police

academy when i was there. you just -- they've never done it before. there's no playbook for that. i think that is the fear of unknown. baltimore has not at least since 1968 faced a situation like it did last week. in general, in the neighborhood you get used to it. it's your job, you're there every night. the cop on the street on patrol is not afraid of his or her area because that's their job. >> specifically in this case with five out of six officers here facing something less than second degree murder for freddie gray's homicide according to the coroner, what do you think would be justice in this case? >> that's a little out of my pay grade without my legal background. justice is by definition is going to be what happens. that's our justice system. but what i hope this doesn't take away from greater issues which are poverty, racism unemployment, the war on drugs. we as americans don't solve these issues and they are extreme in baltimore.

and then we throw cops in there and say do the best we can. when we make a mistake, we say blame them. if every police officer was perfect, we still wouldn't solve these problems. i mean, you'll have the issue of freddie gray's death and issue of the riots but also have the issue of crime and violence in baltimore. there's too much killing going on. putting these cops in jail isn't going to solve that problem. i personally think that's a greater problem. >> you have to deal with the policing issues which are real. >> absolutely. thank you so much we appreciate your time today. >> thanks. >> when we come back tour'e is back in baltimore with how to tackle the divide between the community and cops. it is a topic that "meet the press" will also tackle this weekend. check your local listings.

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i'm here in baltimore in front of city hall where there's lots of national guard and other

police. but a lot of people in this town were afraid of what would happen today after the announcement this morning from the state's attorney, people are feeling a little more jubilant and the mood has lifted and people are less afraid of what may or may not happen tonight. my colleague joy reid has been on the scene all week long. joy, what is the mood where you are? >> reporter: i'll tell you, tour'e, last night when we were in exact same square at the corner of pennsylvania and north avenues, everybody has gotten to know, the mood was kind of dark in terms of the way people were interacting with public officials that came down. there was a police official going back and forth with residents demanding to know when or if there were going to be arrests of these officers and elijah cummings who came and told people to go home and got into real intense back and forth with people. people are supportive of him but people are really intense and wanted to know when there was going to be justice for freddie gray. there was a huge sort of movement of police did a show

of force, just to clear away the press. fast forward to this morning and even as we got here with probably twice as many police officers national guard, either pennsylvania police here montgomery county police all of these endless numbers of officers, the mood of the people who are in the square is absolutely jubilant. if you can see, over my right shoulder there's like a huge honking wave going on -- where it is -- honking their horns and people are waving signs and waving t-shirts in the air. people are really happy and feel like this is the first step towards justice. people are cautiously optimistic because they understand charges are charges but the question is whether or not there will be a conviction and trial. people that we spoke with did say that's a whole another matter. there's a little less confidence that may have a positive outcome. for today, loots and lots of

happiness in west baltimore. people feel in a very rare occasion you have seen police officers ats least charge and indicted and arrest warrants issued in the death of a black man. >> indeed joy, there is a lot of shock and a lot of relief in this community. folks feeling like the justice system working for them. that's one of the things i heard repeatedly over the last few days, people feeling so cynical saying that justice never works and never comes to their community. so they didn't feel it would come to this community. they didn't even fee it would be an announcement today. they felt the justice system and powers that be would keep them help everything more calm. the system is actually working. but ari, one of the questions going forward, where will this case be tried if it's moved to one of the outer counties you could have a different result than if tried in the city. >> thanks tour'e what you've seen out there and reporting all week and joy as many other folks

is the tension between what the public felt they saw and what was going to happen. this was faster than usual. we heard of course from prosecutor mosby talking about the work her team put in for this unusually fast indictment. let's take a listen to that. >> my teamworked around the clock, 12 and 14 hour days to canvas and interview dozens of witnesses. view numerous hours of individuals toshio footvideo footage and hours of statements and surveyed the route and reviewed medical records and leveraged the information made available to us by the police department, the community, and the family of mr. gray. >> here is legally what is different about that process. in many of the cases we talked about the conflict of interest when prosecutors who work with police on other investigations have to turn around and investigate them. there's a delay where the police

investigation comes first and they hand it over then the prosecutors do their work. what was interesting and i think new in the information we learned from the prosecutor was that they didn't wait at all. they went and started conducting independent inquiry. that's important because to the extent that in a case like this the police are suspects now today defendants, an independent inquiry will have a different goal and different objectives and flexibility than what the police officers are going to do who by the way are of course entitled to their own defense and to the right to silence and other things that defendants are entitled to what we learned there. this was a different type of investigation we've seen in other similar circumstances. >> that speed was really remarkable. the thing that strikes me today, if you look back at where we were on monday and how awful the world in baltimore seemed. i would love you to speak to

this who could have ever predicted that by friday we would have this result i don't just mean the charges filed but this community, which i think is really a testment to the character of this community in baltimore has come together and said that activity the violence is not what we're about. we are about uniting for positive change. joy, it's really remarkable. >> i mean i can tell you, that as we've been here throughout the week. we've seen the coming together the entire week. this is something that suddenly happened today. for instance, on the day at a schools were closed tuesday, you saw children mobilizing to give kids a place to go. the marches we have walked through and walked with people entirely peaceful. people were already organized. an organizational momentum of its own. there was never a negativivety i encountered down there. it was always a community coming together, not just united with

one another, but united with volunteers and people across the country who were holding up the black lives matter signs. the portrayal isn't quite accurate. it's always been a unified community. one of the things i'll say, not just unified about freddie gray as i walk around this neighborhood, this area of west baltimore, they are talking about all of the other problems. we saw buildings with windows knocked out that were not knocked out by rioters or looters, they were already knocked out. these were communities already suffering. think what people have been asking me and saying to us when they come up to us don't forget about us once the freddie gray situation is behind us we have the preakness stakes coming up and businesses will want to stay open past 10:00. hotels are losing lots of money. they are worried it wilt get back to normal here meaning the relationship with the police will deteriorate all over again. i think we've got to make sure we're putting it in perspective,

the positivity i felt i felt all week. there was one incident of a few, couple hundred kids that we have to keep in minds the pathology that went into what they did. that was one group of people the protests have been peaceful the entire time. >> such an important thing and needs to be said joy. i want to point out the state attorney woman in charge of a lot of this marilyn mosby, heard her present the report. she has been incredibly impressive giving us all details of day one. i thought she handled herself impressively and showing real compassion and anger as she rightfully should. tour'e, as joy was mentioning, this is a reminder for all of us to take a step back here and do a little bit of soul searching and realizing what's going on here. how do we make proper changes but also the importance of media here and shining a light on what's going on not just in baltimore but in cities all over

the country, not just when there are protests but whenever a crisis exists. >> yeah abby that's right, america has been doing soul searching around these issues the last several months they keep coming up over and over. i have seen this city for most part united and looking for a solution looking for a moving together as a community. i did a three-mile march, we were part of covering a three-mile march yesterday led by athletes and not just folks marching but folks on the sides cheering them on. and city bus at one point blocking traffic so the march could continue. joy, thank you for joining us as we continue. coming up more on a huge weekend in the world of sports two of boxing's best will face off. the triple crown will kick off. there will be game sevens and the bronk bombers are off to beantown. all of that coming up next.

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we're an hour away for the weigh-in for the boxing match of floyd mayweather and manny pacquiao, it's a showdown years in the making and more than belts and titles and bragging rights on the line. the purse is nearly $360 million. most will come from those of us who weren't able to score the big ticket ringside and putting up $100 each to watch it on pay per view. what will happen tonight? joining us now from the site of the fight, jane wells, lots of money in this fight. >> reporter: it is getting so loud in here that i hope i don't repeat what you just said. they are getting ready for the weigh-in that's going to happen later. here's the amazing thing, for first time ever in las vegas, they are charging for people to

come to the weigh-in. people are paying $10 to get in here. that money will go to charity but even those tickets are being sold on the secondary market. the money in this town is crazy over this fight. we're talking potentially a half billion in revenues. we're talking more than 3 million pay per views, about $100 a piece, 300 million right there. the tickets here were sold out quickly. they have resold on the secondary market. hotel rates skyrocketed but here's what has happened. they have started to come back down as we get closer to fight night. tickets have come down about 30% off their highs in the secondary market. they now average just under $6,000 according to stub hub. the highest asking price is 350 grand, the highest sale price is only 41 grand. and while hotel rates are stay way up best example, i paid $85 to be here last night. for tonight, earlier in the week

that would have been $1500 if i stayed tonight. that's now down to around $400. so several times above normal but prices have come down a little bit as we get closer. >> that is unbelievable but i'm sure fun to be there. as we mentioned, a lot of money will be changing hands tomorrow but before that sports fans will be focused on the kentucky derby. the kickoff of the horse racing triple crown and joining us wednesday again from an undisclosed location is the head odds maker pat morrow, always good to see you or whatever you call that. where should people be putting their money? >> if i were a betting man and many a betting man, i would say mayweather has seen such a decrease in his odds since opened at minus 300 or 1-3. we've dropped him down to minus 210 now and much like the super bowl there's so much public

money that has come in on pacquiao it's not worth it for us to take a stand. mayweather is the guy to back right now. >> will the fight go the distance? >> unfortunately that's what we're expecting as well. we're not expecting knockouts or tkos early in the match. if anything that would cost us several hundreds and thousands of dollars on profits. we are expecting the two not landing too many meaningful punches but kind of punches that will be scored and not be knockout punches leading to a 12th round decision. >> pat, i know you're a betting man and gambleing man but also a fight fan like me. i would think that mayweather's defensive prowess will give him the edge. but you're right, probabley will

go the distance. i think because of mayweather's defensive focus, it may not be as interesting a fight as folks would hope it would be. what do you think about that notion, that these two guys will not create a fight that lives up to the hype? >> well you know there's also this narrative that if it goes 12 rounds and goes to decision that's the kind of fight that might lend itself to a rematch and another $100 million purse for the potential winner next time around. i'm not trying to read too much into that. there's enough at stake they would like to win at this one. looking at history at how these guys fight, you don't see a lot of knockouts, we have to tip a little towards mayweather being a little bit more technical and much stronger defensive fighter as you noted and we might see the odds knocked down here or there, but otherwise, we are expecting this to be a fight that goes to decision. forget who wins the fight, if it fight doesn't go to decision and

mayweather or pacquiao before 12 rounds we'll lose money, that's how invested we are in the two decisions. >> for me i'm a little torn who to cheer for. we did get to meet floyd mayweather jr. on "the cycle." i have that personal connection. >> very charming and lovely. but i do always love the underdog. i'm a little torn there. let's turn to the kentucky derby, who are the favorites? >> the favorite right now is american pharoah. i think two scratched and moved to the 17th. shouldn't be much of a difference. a lot of handicappers but american pharoah has been our favorite from the start. they have seen close to 33% of the betting. when it's a race that has 20 horses in there, it is fairly

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gridlock prevented the people of ft. lee from going about their daily lives, whether they were trying to get across the bridge or whether they were traveling only a few blocks across town. it was the first day of school. and the traffic apparently prevented many children from getting there on time. many people were apparently late for work. and local officials reported that first responders were being delayed as they tried to reach those in need. every investigation is always ongoing. we're always receptive to new evidence. what i will say is this, though. based on the evidence that is currently available to us, we're not going to charge anybody else in this scheme. >> that's u.s. attorney paul fishman outlining new federal charges in the bridge-gate investigation. steve kornacki was at that announcement. he joins us with more. what are the most serious charges here? >> well the most serious charges, you have a nine-count indictment against bill baroni one of the top new jersey top christie appointees at the port authority. bridget kelly as well.

basically you have a federal prosecutor saying there was a three-person conspiracy wildstein, kelly and baroni to shut down these lanes for not endorsing chris christie's re-election and coming up with a bogus idea of a traffic study to cover their tracks when the public caught wind of it. that's what wildstein said in court today. that's what prosecutors are buying. now you've got bill baroni's attorneys saying david wildstein is a habitual liar. wildstein and baroni personally very, very close relationship there up until this all started. really best friends. >> they seem to have relied a lot on the information wildstein gave in term of the indictment vis-a-vis baroni. the key phrase from fishman, he says no more indictments in this scheme. what else are they looking at? >> a couple pieces there. first of all, the name david sampson, the chairman of the port authority.

christie's close confidant. he was christie's top guy at the port authority. there's been reported of all sorts of other investigations that are sprouted up from bridge-gate that really don't have anything to do with this scheme with the closures, with the cover-up, but that have to deal with land deals and have to do with conflicts of interest and a shakedown of united airlines for a flight to his vacation home. so what fishman was saying there, the wording most people read that is very precise and leaves open the distinct pocket that there will be news probably big news on david sampson sometimes? the not too distant future. >> and chris christie said today, today's charges made clear that what i've said from day one is true. i had no knowledge or involvement in the planning or execution of this act. he obviously wants no part of this at all. as we know now, he doesn't, right? question is will there be a perception, will this continue to drag on with him as donors and voters think about this is the guy that also hired these people. this is the guy that also led

the office they worked in. >> i don't think it ends today for him at all, for two reasons. first of all think about who the government has cut a deal with here. david wildstein will now be the star witness for the government in its prosecutions of baroni and bridget kelly. just after this hearing today wildstein's lawyer came out and once again said chris christie had knowledge of these closures at they were happening. we have evidence to prove it, and we've provided that evidence to prosecutors, when paul fishman was asked about that, he simply said "i can't comment on that right now." the other piece is if you think about the defense that they'll be offering, a lot of that is going to rest on the idea that nothing, nothing happened in the name of chris christie in the name of his administration or in the name of any of the appointees of his administration at any of the authorities in the port authority being one of them. nothing happened. not even a press release going out without top people in the governor's office knowing. i think that's going to be a key part of their defense when this thing finally gets to court. >> you look at this indictment, sometimes they're circumstantial, vague dots being

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from here in front of baltimore's city hall a big march has just come through. they started at the state's attorney's office. some church groups part of that. amnesty international part of that. another big day and another big protest here in baltimore marching through the streets. a lot of people here feel like it was the protests and these

marches that have led to the state's attorney's office announcing what it did this morning. but i hope not. i hope that it was the evidence and the system following the evidence that got us here. a system that would follow the evidence ari, whether or not there was video, whether or not there were marches. that would be actually justice. >> appreciate your reporting all week. along with a lot of our colleagues, as you say. the prosecutor today outlining serious charges against those six officers. they will get their day in court. and if this entire story moves to an emphasis on justice and a process that is fair to all, i think that would be a good thing for baltimore, regardless of the outcome, which we are a long way from finding out. >> all right, thanks for that. that does it for "the cycle." "now with alex wagner" starts right now. we are following two breaking stories right now. in new jersey a press conference is expected any minute from bridget kelly

responding to new charges filed against her today in connection to bridge-gate. kelly is the former deputy chief of staff to governor chris christie and the woman who wrote the infamous e-mail "time for some traffic problems for ft. lee." but first we go to the major unexpected developments out of baltimore today. there are celebrations on the streets of that city this afternoon following the announcement that criminal charges have been filed against six police officers in the death of resident freddie gray. in a detailed and troubling account of what happened to mr. gray while in police custody last month, states attorney marilyn marilyn mosby ruled gray's death a homicide. >> the findings are comprehensive, thorough and independent investigation coupled with the medical examiner's determination that mr. gray's death was a homicide which we received today, has led us to believe that we have probable cause to file criminal