>> if we don't write the rules for trade around the world, guess what? china will. >> we writing the rules on trade. good morning. thanks for getting up with us this sunday morning. a triple whamy of severe weather as we come on the air this morning. the first named tropical storm of the season is making landfall as we speak. there is also tornado activity on the southern plains and on the furthest edge?

snow in may. the details in the forecast in just a minute. meanwhile that political storm that has been brewing on the trade deal is intensifying. we will be talking about president's latest remarks in just a minute. and plus prince is doing his part today to help the city of baltimore heal. he's got a new song about baltimore and a concert planned in charm city tonight. there's a case to be made that race relations are getting better. our thoughts on that are ahead along with much much more. we begin with severe and potentially deadly weather. severe thunderstorms causing damage in oklahoma and texas yesterday. tornados are a big concern as is possible flooding.

meanwhile may will feel more like february today in denver which could see as many as eight inches of snow today. on the other side of that snow system snowfalling in south dakota yesterday. the atlantic hurricane season getting an early start this year doesn't officially begin for another three weeks. >> happy mother's day. we have a lot going on. we will start with tropical storm ana right now which did make landfall in south carolina around myrtle beach. what we will be focusing on now it will dissipate. rains will be a problem. we could see three to five inches of additional rainfall basically along the immediate coast of the carolinas up

through virginia. that's where we will see upwards of three inches of rain which will cause flash flooding for later today. we do have strong storms going through the dallas fort worth area. just to the west of fris co-there. this is a nasty line of storms moving off to the northeast. they are going to see that right through today. here is a look back down through texas once again. it does push up. it looks like the main areas of concern is our enhanced risk. flash flooding will be major concern for her. so that is something certainly we will keep our eye on. >> turning now to the forecast

of the key legislative goal of president obama's second term. on tuesday the senate is set to vote on whether to fast track president obama's trade deal. if the senate gives authority, that means his administration would be allowed to negotiate a final deal knowing that congress only gets to approve or reject the final act. they will have a lot more leverage and lee way knowing that congress won't have a say in making changes. hypothetical changes that send a very real chance of settling the bill all together and for once it's not the republican rank and file that is standing in the way. it's fellow democrats including the democratic leader of the senate harry reid. president obama has been on a big push to get democrats on his side.

>> she's wrong on this. >> on friday at headquarters outside portland oregon president obama called out all of the democrats who were fighting him on this issue. and in an interview posted yesterday, he addressed senator warn's specific charge. >> senator warn said this week this pack could be used to roll back dod frank -- >> she's absolutely wrong. >> i passed it. >> they're coming at you pretty hard on this. >> i understand that. and think about the logic of that. the notion that i have this massive fight with wall street to make sure that they done repeat what happened in 2007 and 2008. and then i sign a provision that would unravel it? i would have to be pretty

stupid. >> here to talk about what's next for the trade deal is the senior political reporter with the huffington post. and also with the daily beast, betsy. i'm going to throw this question out to the entire table. we have this interview coming up later in the show. he is no one's idea of a sen tryst. he's not only on the side of president obama when it comes to this trade deal getting passed he stayed behind in washington when the president was in his own home state of oregon to help drum up votes. he seems to be going against voeks like elizabeth warren i'm just wondering how do you figure out where you stand on this issue.

what's going on here? >> i think first you have to recognize this is not a new issue. in 2002 the last time the congress approved so called fast track authority for then president bush, only 25 democrats in the house went along with it. i think in the senate, ever since ron signed on on the president's side and created this bipartisan deal, the fix was in in the senate. the house is going to be the problem. a strong element within the republican party. democrats have always been at odds over trade. i think what angers people like elizabeth warren and in the house, president levin is that the president is making them sound like they are the old guard. and he's not really recognizing

some of their valid complaints and in negotiating this deal democrats have been kept in the dark. it's been highly under wraps for national security reasons. >> let me push back on this. i keep hearing this charge that it's under wraps and top secret. senator warren was on rh's show and she talked about how she read the deal. if they want to have a briefing they can call it ustr. the trade representative will go there and talk to them about what's in the bill. >> but they're not allowed to talk about it. it's being treated like classified material. the secrecy thing is kind of a cover. they don't like what's in the

deal. >> i think there is some frustration that president obama is getting frustrated. lawmakers feel like right now they have to you know the public is relying on president obama to take -- i think that is what worries some of the senators. there is also definitely some pressure from businesses and state. most of the lawmakers are in favor of senator patty murray. it's not surprising that sharon brown where a lot of the manufacturing jobs have disappeared is against it. geographically there is some play there. >> i have to ask you because you brought up all of these states and companyies and outsourcing. it was reported that he asked

steve jobs why they couldn't be made in the united states and jobs told him quote those jobs aren't coming back. >> those jobs aren't coming back and others are still fighting to bring them back? >> i don't think so. i think that's the essential implication here. you don't have free trade if you can create the goods and services in your own. how ugly of a rift it has made on the right. talking about issues of jobs and workers. we had some conservative figures be very vocally opposed to this. >> why are they opposed to the trade deal? >> expanded immigration. a similar concept in terms of let's protect the economy. keep them from competing.

>> it sounds like protectionism doesn't it? >> it used to be a problem of democrats but i really think the fact that this is president obama pushing it and it's being framed as a major legacy item is a huge deal. a dozen nations. the biggest trade deal in some time. if you're a republican do you really want to hand him this victory. >> the tea party element really doesn't like this. >> can the united states afford not to do this deal given the way the world is today versus the way the world was when nafta was negotiating? >> we don't do this we will be letting china set the rules and china's weak labor standards that will become the default. president obama going to nike and saying nike will agree to create over the next decade when it has about a million jobs.

so convincing to a lot of people. i think the white house needs to make a slightly stronger case still. >> we're about to find out. still ahead as we continue this morning here is what president obama has to say about it. >> that's why he's not here. he's in washington d.c. as we speak quarterbacking this effort. >> senator ron widen missing out to a visit to his own backyard to win votes for the trade bill back in washington. he takes the time to talk to me about that and why he is prepared to filibuster to stop renewal of the pariot act. that's in just a bit. [announcer]when we make beyond natural dry dog and cat foods.

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>> there's a lot going on. let's get caught up with some of the headlines. first lady michelle obama spoke to graduates yesterday. let's take a listen to what she had to say. >> the world won't always see you in those caps and gowns. they won't know how hard you worked and how much you sacrificed to make it to this day and my husband and i know how frustrating that experience can be. we both felt the sting of those daily slights throughout our entire lives. the folks who cross the street in fear of their safety the clerks who kept a close eye on us on all the department stores. the people at formal events who assumed we were the help and those who have questioned our

intelligence, our honesty, even our love of this country -- >> and she was just getting started here. have any of you seen the entire or heard the entire commencement address? >> i read the text and my eyes got bigger and bigger. we talked a lot about president obama unbound in the last year and a half. i think we are seeing the same phenomenon with the first lady. she goes through chapter and verse of how she was characterized and how it made her feel and she tells these students that you're looking at me now as a fully formed human being but it was a lot of hard work to get here and i had to screen out a lot of negative comments. it is beautifully instructed for young people. >> she has had conservatives going after her. how she is perceived as being angry. she has had really nasty comparisons thrown her way.

she is admitting look i saw all of that and that really hurt. that is why they have worked to keep their daughters out of the public eye. >> i want to go back and watch the entire speech. there is a tone there of frustration, a little bit of anger, justified, justifiable anger. it's been six years that we have been listening to the barrage of criticism. did you want to jump in before i move on to deflate gate. >> i think this is a new side. we're used to seeing this side of the first lady. going on late night comedy shows and presenting this image of someone who's fun and happy and in a good mood and it's really interesting and definitely a change for her to have raw emotion. >> so, i teased it. deflate gate. it's in a way that my mind is

boggled. pressure is on to enrolling colleges. deflate case will be a four credit course at the university of new hampshire this fall. please translate this for me. it will be about the interplay between the systems. what does that mean? >> i guess he means take the course. >> is that for the lab, too? >> i think that's the academic version of click base. they are trying to get a title for this course that won't appeal to young people. >> new hampshire is patriots territory. >> uh-huh. and a little bias. we have got like 45 seconds but we have got to get this in. npr, mcdonald's revamps the ham burglar.

it has seen sales and customer visits decline. is that a work revamping the ham burglar? >> he still looks creepy. >> if it goes as well as the other project they did, it was familiar. it is awful. did not enjoy it. >> i don't know. i guess there's room for a traditional hamburger and fries, this may go out just like the new coke did a generation ago. >> i'm a prosecutor. my job is to follow the fast and drive them to the elements of the law. >> under fire for the charges she brought against six police officers in connection with freddie gray's death.

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page motion requesting that the prosecutor rekuz herself. they say she has five conflicts of interest among them. the attorney is a personal friend and has donated money to her campaign and her husband is a city councilman. they say that if she doesn't drop the charges they will mo for an independent prosecutor. steve? >> thank you. tonight's concert comes at the end of a peaceful weak in charm city. lifted the state of emergency and national guard troops no longer patrolled the streets. cvs announced that it would rebuild two of the stores and keep all employees on the payroll while they do it. baltimore is on the road to but we shouldn't forget that it will be a long road

back. and an investigation encouraged by the city's own mayor. the state's attorney who brought charges against six baltimore police officers in connection to the death is facing criticism that she has been overze louse. a former prosecutor in baltimore calling the charges incompetent at best. writing in part if i were a baltimore police officer, i would be looking for another job immediately and as a baltimore citizen i may be looking for somewhere else to live. none of us will be safe. we are live now to discuss. thank you very much for being here this morning. >> i'm not sure. i can't hear paige. so we're going to try to get the

audio fixed with paige porter. many of you saw the blistering oped that she wrote. you're nodding. talk to us a little bit about what that oped was like were it just goes after piece by piece. one particular point that was very interesting is that the whole ethics is that you don't use prosecution or press charges to do crowd control. one of the things that was so striking is that it came so quick and it seemed to have an effect on how the protests were going. >> something else is that she did her own investigation independent of the police.

how much do you think that will be in her favor do you think? >> that seems like a problem. she is supposed to depend on law enforcement officials to gather information. it does suggest there are some issues here. >> there are so many people who come to distrust law enforcement. a bystander nearby. for a lot of people this was reassuring. it was nice that finally. >> i don't know there is any everett that she changed anyone.

>> i think she does articulate definitely what a lot of people will find on the police's side. that may or may not be a credible accusation. i don't know that the facts bear that out. >> the fact that the state's attorney said she did her own independent investigation. i think it's last year the baltimore sun did this exhaustive report. so there is -- there seems to be no love lost between a big

part of the community of baltimore and the baltimore police department. >> i think that people are looking at the facts, most people aren't lawyers and they don't know exactly what the process is but a man is dead. and he had a small pocket knife with him. he died while in police custody and in the very least the police officers behind this should go in front of a jury and face charges. now whether or not they're convicted that's what the jury will have to decide. >> let me read something to get you to react to this. she has created an expectation of guilty and conviction. many will blame the system as unfair or unjust when it may have been her own lack of confidence and or arrogance in bringing charges so quickly.

>> could be a big negative. that's a hypothetical. a big if. however she has mishandled it. not good. >> what everybody remembers is rodney king. the jury was moved to the valley. a white community where a lot of the police officers lived and they were acquitted and that's what led to the riots. those would get charged with something. may not go to jail for life and probably shouldn't. >> we will take a break and come back and talk with paige after this. l economy rating... the lincoln mkz hybrid.

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>> and we're back now continuing our conversation about baltimore. now story about the audio problems that we have had in the last segment there. in your oped you say that marilyn mosby has created an expectation of guilty and conviction. how has she done that? >> she got up there, talked about her independent investigation and she said to the crowd i heard your call for no peace, no justice, i will give justice for freddie gray, which is an unethical statement for her client it is not freddie gray. she gave that impression. i listened to your discussions. very interesting. i am not on anybody's side. your duty is to follow the

evidence wherever it goes. you do not have sufficient evidence to prosecute, that's what you decide. whatever the social consequences. it leaves room for interpretation that give me peace and i will get this justice for freddie gray. two weeks is not nearly enough time to do a thorough investigation. when we don't know how or when freddie gray sustained his injuries. she did not use her unit which is the most experienced unit in her office whose job it is to investigate suspicious deaths. she by passed that completely. the grand jury is an important

investigative pool. gather evidence. most importantly you get feed back from ordinary citizens and what they make of the evidence what they see. in most cases it would be particularly prudent to use the grand jury to give her some partial insulation. if you're using the normal process and having this kind of independent look at the evidence, that would give her some conflict of interest. she did not have any time to evaluate the police report. she got the autopsy report the same day she was announcing the charnls. what she relies on is her own investigation. that was not a good idea. we are already seeing reports of

inconsistencies between hers and the police investigation. what that automatically sets up is a way for defense attorneys to exploit weaknesses in the case. they may not be big inconsistencies but the smallest ones will be exploited. >> given what you have just said and the press conference where she laid out the case there, should the cops not have been charged? >> i read the probable cause statement. the probable cause statement does not have probable cause in it to charge the driver of the van with second degree murder. okay? sit not in there. she also, i think, has mistakenly charged two police officers who arrested freddie gray. she is charging them with false

imprisonment for making an arrest without probable cause. it appears that they had immunity and second of all she didn't think through the profound implications of doing that. it's not because police officers were charged with a crime. they were charged with a crime for making an arrest. they have made a mistake. you are going to criminally charge every police officer who makes a mistake about probable cause. making a mistake about probable cause, cannot do their job. there was an article yesterday

in the sun. there are officers who are reluctant to respond to calls. >> one last question. you're not a fan of marilyn mosby's. i have gone back and read in your blog. tlents her winning election you focused in and zeroed in on how young she is back then and you made that point in your oped in the sun. do you the that your age and by that you might mean inexperience is driving your a large part of your criticism of you and what she has done? >> what i wrote as i was closing down my blog is that she was so inexperienced that she did not appreciate the enormity of the

job in front of her. i criticize where i see. her inexperience is huge. this is huge. she really stepped over. what i said in my blog has turned out to be prophetic. i'm not here. >> on that note thank you very much. paige, former deputy state's attorney from baltimore. thank you for being with us.

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>> the clock is ticking. just three weeks to go before the pariot act expires. the debate became more pointed on thursday when a federal appeals court struck down the nsa's massive surveillance program. unanimously ruling that the bulk collection is not authorized by the pariot act. democratic senator and patrick who are refused to renew the pariot act unless it includes new provisions.

started the leader to lead a formittable contention who are dead set on letting the collection of phone records continue. >> according to the cia had these authorities been in place. they would have likely have prevented -- >> one day. >> better not be. this congress failed to authorize a program that we know about. >> it is illegal? >> i was very pleased and of

course i am not exactly surprised. the fact of the master is this was a drag gnat surveillance program that was secret. >> mitch mcconnel has said this is very important. and had this not been around that 911 could have been prevented. what's your response to that? >> the facts show otherwise. for example, the president's own advisory group made up of some very conservative people people can strong national security credentials. i liked the kid at page 104. that report said that collecting all of these phone records on law-abiding americans does not really advance the cause of fighting terror.

they say it could be obtained by conventional means. >> what exactly does that mean in government speak? >> it means getting warrant. showing how we traditionally have in effect that there is specific information, probable cause, reasons to make sure that you balance security and liberty. an important judge has declared to be illegal. i want to say how this morning that if for example they decide to go with some sort of short term extension of this flawed line unless there are major reforms like getting rid of this

bulk phone record collection program. >> you want to get rid of it all together. put knit the hands of the phone companies. that's not good enough for you. >> the u.s. freedom act in effect would go back they would go back to what the tradition system was. >> let me ask you about senator rand paul. in an oped he was questioning if the usa fraedom act expands the pariot act. >> first of all, senator paul and i kid that we're sort of the founders of the informal ben franklin caucus.

i haven't had a chance to review senator paul's article but it seems to me that with pat lay hee's report what i call jonathan a federal human relations data base i think what pat is trying to do is very important. i do intend to go further and that's why i mentioned making sure we stop this ser 67 of american e-mails. i can be pretty confident saying that senator paul and i will be working on the issues in the day ace head. >> you were willing to go to the mat on this and willing to filibuster to insure that the surveillance program is dead. >> correct. and the question will be as you know the senate republican leadership has been looking at a

variety of ways to move forward to keep the bulk phone records collection program going. what usually happens is they say let's just have a short term extangs of it. i'm tired of extending a bad law. if they come back with that effort to basically extend this for a short term without major reforms like ending the collection of phone records, i do intend to filibuster. >> you support it. why aren't you in oregon with the president?

>> cannot be there decisions would be ongoing pretty much around the clock trying to find a way as we did in the senate finance committee to move forward in a bipartisan way. >> how do you address the concerns of your fellow democrats who are really against this bill? how do you allay their concerns that tpp is just nafa 20 years earlier? sthoez rules come first and then you go to the specific green land my central argument on the floor speaking to progressives. as you know a majority of senator voted for the legislation.

nice central argument would be to lay out item by item by yit. how what we are doing now is very different from the 1990s in the nafta days. >> is thank you very much. >> thank you. >> once again our thanks to senator ron widen for taking the time to join us. a live look at writesville beach, north carolina experiencing the first named are tropical storm of the season. there's also snow in south dakota and the possibility of tornados from kansas to texas. more on that and mothers as a powerful political force as we continue on this mother's day. stay with us.

40% of the streetlights in detroit, at one point, did not work. you had some blocks and you had major thoroughfares and corridors that were just totally pitch black. those things had to change. we wanted to restore our lighting system in the city. you can have the greatest dreams in the world, but unless you can finance those dreams, it doesn't happen. at the time that the bankruptcy filing was done, the public lighting authority had a hard time of finding a bank. citi did not run away from the table like some other bankers did. citi had the strength to help us go to the credit markets and raise the money. it's a brighter day in detroit. people can see better when they're out doing their tasks, young people are moving back in town the kids are feeling safer while they walk to school. and folks are making investments and the community is moving forward. 40% of the lights were out, but they're

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this sunday morning. much more still ahead as we continue. we're following the progress of tropical storm ana as it moves ashore in the carolinas. there are tornados and snow. also just ahead, the war on poverty is increasingly under fire. is it time to rethink the approach after 50 years? more on that with two people actively involved in the fight plus why david cameron's stance should be a cautionary tale for conservatives here at home. >> we have simplified how to follow the money. all you have to do? follow the billionaires. >> happy mother's day mom. we will be looking at moms as a powerful political demographic. we will begin with the three developing weather situations

that could affect tens of millions today. a line of severe storms that could cause major flooding and damage. pringing with it the same threat of tornados. out west winter is back. parts of colorado and wisconsin could be buried under as much as two feet of snow. meanwhile the first tropical storm of the year is moving ashore in the carolinas as we speak. >> right now we're in the northeast quadrant of the storm. we are dry. the sun is starting to peak out through some of the cloud bus there is choppy surf behind me.

we are starting to see some beach erosion as well as strong winds. it is forecast to bring up to 50 inches of rain to some parts of the care loo thats. that could lead to some flash flooding. ana is the second earliest storm to make landfall in the u.s. it was virtually stationary. now it is moving north, northwest. it's expected to take a turn towards the north and as it breaks apart it is expected to weaken starting today. it will bring heavy rains through virginia and maryland. >> thanks for joining us. we begin this hour in baltimore.

conversations about how to heal baltimore have centered on policing and race relations as we discussed earlier in the show. but there is also a renewed discussion on how to attack poverty. the chicago tribune pushed back on recent calls from the left for more spending on anti-poverty programs suggesting the entire approach needs to be rethought. we have spent trillions of dollars on the war on poverty and poverty not only persists. bush is not the only prominent report. >> we just did 50 years in the war on poverty. spent trillions of dollars.

deep poverty is among the highest on record. >> not as an exercise to save money but as an exercise to save lives. >> here to discuss this is president of the save the children action network. >> so give me your reaction to that excerpt that i read a moment ago? >> i think you have got to look at what the war on poverty actually is. the great society, creating programs like head start. you also had in president johnson'ses great society, medicare and medicaid. what do we have in common? i think it's his great commitment to early childhood

education. he started a huge access program in florida. the problem was we had great accessibility but the problem wasn't as good as it should be. so i wish that we would talk about the things that we have in common and that we ought to be pushing forward together on. >> one of the chief architects. this week the senate passed the budget that would cut spending by $10 trillion. it would repeal the affordable care act. this is the way to reduce poverty in america. mark? >> i was down just a couple of weeks ago in south carolina and that state which is not a blue state and the legislature is run by republicans has made a commitment.

they have increased the amount of money that's going early childhood education. governor scott to improve the accessibility. governor snider in michigan. there is early learning nation rising up. i don't know whether the folks in washington realize that or not. the business community is very much in favor. that is real tli key to getting people out of poverty. look is head start perfect? absolutely not. should it be improved? save the children is now running head start programs that were struggling. we need to invest more dollars intelligently. i met with the governor a couple of year ace go and i said look if they're not doing a good job, you should fire us.

when you look around the country both republicans and democrats believe in education. that's where we should be investing and investing early. is there an appetite to do all the things that you just said? >> if you look around the country, the family that has coined this phrase that's what's happening. you see republicans and democratic governors go. has got a new idea about pay for success bonds.

if you deliver resulteous can get compensated and grow the programs. i wish washington would get in line. to help kids lift themselves out of poverty. save the children action network. >> thank you. >> assistant to the president and white house director of the policy council. i want to get your reaction to the fact that the war on poverty has failed. >> the war on poverty resulted in reducing poverty by a third. so when they talk about the safety net we have to understand that the safety net does prevent hardship in this country but it's not enough.

we pig youred out how to get pre-k to every one. also other programs that help provide opportunity. so this is really about making sure that we're making the investments that we need to create opportunity around the country. he has cut the deficit in half. we know how to do this but it requires communication and work. >> the baltimore sun is calling for more federal investment in their city. president obama has offered some

lip service to hear public concerns. that -- but merely attempting to calm the pop ewe lis. >> that's exactly what president obama has proposed. investments in housing and early childhood education and in the lowest performing schools to make sure our children graduate ready for college and career. this is exactly what the president is proposing more of. we're not getting the cooperation. we're taking this conversation around the country along the lines of what you heard mark sh rooifer just say. we're engaged all along the country.

we're having a consideration about the my brother's keeper program. we're building action plans and me tricks to be sure we know what goals we're trying to reach. the obama administration is engaged in the hopes that by taking this conversation around the country we can bring it back to washington and congress can start doing it's job. >> new york city mayor is going to be in there. a call for a $15 minimum wage. would president obama back a minimum wage of $15 that many fast food workers and now the mayor of new york city are calling for?

>> so the put forward a proposal for $12 minimum wage. that's very exciting. it is an incredibly important thing to be having this conversation. if you are working 40 hours a week you should be bringing home enough money that your family isn't living in poverty. >> thank you so much for coming in. white house director of the domestic policy council. still ahead, we look swoo sboo one of the most powerful demographics of all of politics. moms. but first the lessons on david cameron's victory. that's next. stay with us. (mom) when our little girl was born we got a subaru. it's where she said her first word. (little girl) no! saw her first day of school.

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>> when david cameron pushed through the legalization of same sex marriage in the uk last year it was harolded as a dth nail for conservative government. >> the only thing, david cameron was re-elected on friday. his conservative party winning an outright majority by a huge margin. conservative leaders in the uk managed to move with the times. they even managed to live with single parent health care systems.

things like lowering taxes and being tough on crime and terrorism. we have been witnessing a different scene here with candidates and possible contenders largely tripping up recently when they were asked if they would attend a same sex wedding. which leads me to wonder if the republican party here would benefit by taking some pointers from our friends across the bond. and back with us on set, amanda of the daily beast. >> is there a cautionary tail here for republicans in the united states? are they taking the wrong issues?

>> it's not just about threats. most of the english speaking are going there. and that party in australia is about how a free vote will introduce a same sex program to australia. will be free to vote their on conscious in about 70% support the idea. it's coming there, too. and one other thing, all of these countries have in common is some kind of universal held care guarantee. if something happens then you switch into a different gear and after that you're on the road to

surfdom. once you take certain issues out of politics suddenly are more competitive. >> how do you both energize the republican party's conservative wing while still attracting new voters? >> he is conservative. >> the republican party is the party of people who pay their cable bills on the day it comes due. we do is not have a mobilization problem. solving a problem that democrats have and republicans don't. our people vote. >> i want the panel to jump in here. you have been wanting to get in. >> it's not just looking at what conservatives didn't talk about.

but also what conservatives emphasize and the track record they were able to push. it will help mitigate the effects of the economic downturn. it's a great strategy. the differences is that there is not this sort of blind allegiance. there's an acknowledgment that these countries are more diverse now.

that people want health care for example. we're going to shape policies around this. or saying that we need to keep things how they are or going back to how they were ten years from now. >> i would like to ask david if there are less than four republicans on held care for example, the brits aren't talking about doing away with the health service. on cultural issues the republican party here i think tried to steer clear of them were unsuccessful. >> i don't want to make a scene like these are squishy parties.

the dulltural issues are work. one of the most important things that cameron did was to greatly toughen the work requirements for people who received benefits from the state. get rid of the inhair tans tax on single family private homes. he did very robust things. attracts people with skills. people with higher levels of education and immigration policy in the national interest. these are -- toel nor's point, all of these parties are interested in opening more space.

sit not the same as government health care. >> one quick last question. >> the point is to govern the society you have not the society you wish you would have. you are elected by the voters of today. >> that is a fans tick point to end on. thank you so much for getting with us this morning. the system is said to be worse than dysfunctional.

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>> you know what? there is still a lot going on this morning that we need to catch up on. jeb bush quoting evangelicals let's take a listen to it. somebody here is being small minded and intolerant. federal authorities are demanding obedience. and in a free society, the answer is no.

>> he was basically taking a stand in favor of the religious freedom clause that they have tried to erect so that people can deny services to others. >> i think the way most people in the country associate the word religious freedom is with what happened in indiana. it's interesting that that is what he would focus on. >> is jeb bush doing this to get favor with conservatives. >> yes, absolutely.

>> that's where he has got to capitalize. his dad went there in 1990 to give the commencement. he brought george h.w. bush under his wing as he was gearing up for his first presidential bid. it's definitely some dynasties. >> another story. nickel by nickel. >> all there. >> all watching it. >> do you hate this? >> you can bring your own cloth bag if you would like.

i am hoping they are making progress. >> most of that is not actually going to take in pieces of trash from the river. a lot of that will pay for other things. the city government argues that this is part of it and if you teach fifth graders, maybe they won't put trash in the river. >> i city think it's a good program. >> new york city is more expensive than any other place. they want a tent cent fee.

>> when i read somewhere that they were -- that's all i needed to hear. >> now we're going a little before this. >> our last story here world war two soldiers get to mom, lost for 73 years returns home. a pillow sham emblazened on his army base in california was discovered last month on ebay. there it is on the screen. who took it? >> it was discovered? >> the buyer purchased an unopened envelope and found the sham inside. why it was never delivered a mystery. the woman it was intended for

passed away in 1956. >> he purchased an unopened envelope? >> it sounds like the start of a really good lifetime movie. >> it's really change. as soon as i saw this story it is supposed to be this heartwarming thing but who's the person who put it on ebay? >> an ebay buyer purchased an unopened envelope? >> it was postmarked from 1942. >> you know like bidding on old storage yuptunits that people have stopped paying for? >> an unopened envelope? it's mother's day. i'm so glad they got it back. still ahead. april showers bring may flowers so what does may snow in south

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this week hillary clinton announced she will start courting donors. it's guaranteed that a flood of big money will dominate this election most of it unregulated. a woman was refreshingly candid when she said her agency's ability to regulate money is worse than disfanksal. the likelihood of the laws being enforced is slim. so what's the best way to fight the culture of big money when the regulatory system is not functioning properly? also a former ftc chair joins me now. >> what do you think is the reason behind why they are not able to function and do its job right now? >> the answer is pretty obvious.

we have a commission that is made up of six members and it was designed so that no party could take over the apparatus and use it to punish the other party. >> is that because of polarization? because the two sides are polarized? >> they are polarized. the agency is there. . the way to make the agency work we have to wok together. to fit on our original positions. we had a group of commissioners that have taken a different task.

they are well founded. we don't care whether it's democrats or republicans. we just want to take care of some of these laws. >> you witnessed it actually operate as it should. is there a first step that can be take on the move in a different direction? >> well i think we have to find a way to get back to the way the agency used to work. sport for campaign regulation may be wide but it's not very deep. i think that really has to change that the american people are throwing their hands up in disgust and they have to get more engaged on the issues. and i believe they do.

>> that is something that if the sec can't finance other big money what can other agencies do? >> the justice department is starting to step in. this is another reason why it is not good even for the political actors who think they are getting away with something it leads to a race to the bottom. one person does something that's a little bit outrageous and everyone else looks around and sees that there are no kons gwens and everyone else thinks they have to do the same thing. the justice department will step in and they can throw people in jail. and there's no in between. >> i would like to get your reaction to something real

quick. there was a reaction to senator marco rubio's connection. he has financed the legislative agenda and has subsidized personal finances. they have asked them about this. take a listen to this. >> you're a major donor who was paying you a salary when you were campaigning for the senate? >> my disclosure form when i filed for the candidate. he was a candidate. >> you don't feel like you have ever had any relationships.

>> so norman has never asked me to do anything. >> this kind of relationship between donors and politicians make you uncomfortable? >> i don't want to talk about any individual candidate or do nor but this is an era where everybody has got their billionaire patron. i want one where office holders are responsive in which candidates try to follow the rules, play by the rules knowing there could be some penalty if they don't instead of trying to get around their rules. the last election was the most expensive in midterm history. and we had the lowest turnout

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this winter storm venus. here it is. as you can see the problem here is not the 31 degree temperature although that combined with 25 mile an hour winds give you a windchill of 17. i would say we have about maybe five inches here. what that has done for the streets here is made them very slushy. the plows have been through here look at this stuff. this is hard to get through and that is really wet snow. the speed limit has been cut down to 40 miles an hour pause travel is treacherous here. the other concern here in the black hills northeast which is where most of the storm will come is that a lot of ranchers have calves and lambs and those animals really do get hype thermic in weather like this.

back to you. >> on may 10. my thanks to scott at the weather channel. up next moms take to the streets this mother's day weekend.

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thanks for staying was this mother's day sunday. steve is off celebrating with his mom. happy mother's day to her. while some critics see the day as just another holiday drummed up by the greeting card industry it's been a chance for mothers to advocate for the safety of their children. in washington, the million moms march brought together motherers who lost their kids to violent encounters with the police. while in new york the gun

control group moms demand action for gun sense this america crossed the brooklyn bridge for the third stlagt year calling tr more gun safety protections. 'among the speakers a teacher from sandy hook elementary school. >> the evil that occurred that day and the days that followed are simply indescribable. the horror of learning the details. the spreadsheets of wakes and funerals. the photos. the sore ceremonies and such small caskets. how does this make sense to anyone let alone kids? it doesn't. >> joining me now, founder of moms demand action shannon waz. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> you have chosen to organize mothers. what have you witnessed in your experience that made you believe mothers make a potential

political force? >> if you look at the history of the country when moms when women get involved things change. where it's children labor laws or drunk driving. when sandy hook happened i went online looking for something like motherers against drink driving. i started a faeb page. what was intended to be an online conversation became an off line movement. >> you mentioned mothers against drunk driving. what did you learn if them that inspired you to do what you are doing now? >> we created a system very similar. we have a chapter in every single state of the country. our moms are in state houses every day going toe to toe with the gun lobby, pushing against bad bills and supporting good bills and we are winning. we didn't get the vote we wanted from congress. what we we realized was much like marriage equality. if we go to businesses companies, state lawmakers and pull the levers like our votes and our wallets we know we have the power to use and we'll win.

>> what issues other than gun violence do you believe mothers are effective at championing? >> i honestly believe there is no stronger love than a mother's love. when it comes to championing the rights of children, we are effective. i ap the mother of a gay teen in indiana. i don't think there is a tougher place to raise a gay teen. marriage equality is in the same play book for gun safety. go to the businesses build momentum, show what people want and get the control vote. >> the gun issue has faded a little bit from the national stage in recent months. war your plans to reignite the debate if 2016? spp we have leks coming up. we'll be interested in where candidates stand on the issue of background checks. we'll fight at the state houses continue to get businesses and hopefully kroger won't allow open carry in their stores. our moms are energized. people talk about the intensity gap. when we realize how insane the gun laws are in this country, we

are terrified and there is no going back. >> how disappointing was it that congress could not get out even a background check bill? >> the same congress we had in place the day before sandy hook was the same as the day after. it is beholden to the gun lob by. but you have a. mo. what are you more afraid of -- the gun lobby or a group of moms coming after you? >> a group of moms. >> exactly. >> shannon watts, thanks for joining us. and to betty woodrough, eleanor cliff thank you. up next is melissa harris-perry. stay tuned. happy mother's day to all the moms including mine. have a great week.

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and the magical power of black girls' hair. first, the making of oh aa modern movement. good morning. i'm melissa harris-perry. donde johnson, sr. jeffrey alston. for many of you this may be the first time you have heard of them. the mention of their names didn't elicit thoughts or ideas. you can't summon an image of their faces or details of their lives. but if i said the name to you that's different -- fred die gray, your neurons are firing making connections in your mind between the name of this man and all his name has come to signify. now you are thinking about the image of a young man in a red t-shirt squinting slightly against the sun shining on his face. now you are thinking about police violence. now you are thinking about the worth