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hello, everyone. it is high noon in the east 9:a.m. out west. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." happy mother's day to all of you celebrating. a weather system stretching to the rockies. first tropical storm anna makes landfall the earliest on record for this time. meanwhile, this is snowy south dakota saturday. denver could see up to five inches of snow. it's may 10th, in case you're checking. domenica davis has the wild forecast. >> it is a wild one. let me say happy mother's day to you. >> thank you. >> we have not such a great beach day if you are trying to get to the beach for mother's day. along the carolina coastline here up into virginia this is all the remnants of anna now. it is heavy rain. the winds aren't too bad. but it is going to make for rip current and flooding a concern through the day. this is where it gets whacky.

this is through the high plain. we have -- i want to start up with nebraska and through the dakotas. that's where we have a tornado watch box and tornado warnings now. n progress. just west of sioux falls. now, just about 50 miles to the west, we're dealing with a snowstorm. so this system continues to be wild. not only tornado problems up to our north, but down south, as well. we've been seeing big storms all morning long. that will continue through texas and oklahoma where tornado watches will go through the afternoon into the evening. we have a new tornado warning south of ft. smythe texarkana to dallas. it's the midsection looking for the severe weather today. here's the mother's day forecast. stormy through the middle part.

along northeast, looking at above normal temperatures. feeling a bit like summer. new york, 83 for the high. boston, 81. atlanta, 88. storms start to appear in your forecast back to you the first of the week. >> thanks for the heads up. as domenica mentioned, tropical storm ana made landfall in north carolina. we have more from wrightsville beach. hi gabe. >> reporter: good afternoon. this morning about three weeks before the official start of hurricane season, tropical storm ana made landfall along the carolina coast. just to the south and north of myrtle beach. we're in between a rain band dry for now. we've been seeing choppy surf as well as strong winds throughout the morning as well as some beach erosion already. right now, ana has maximum sustained winds of about 40 miles per hour. it is moving to the north at about five miles per hour. a ana is the second earliest

tropical storm to make landfall in the u.s. on record. it is expected to continue to bring this heavy rain along the mid-atlantic, past virginia and maryland through tuesday. alex back to you. >> thank you. in other parts of the nation, cleanup this mother's day. more than 45 tornadoes were reported across the country saturday in cisco, texas, at least one person killed. three injured from a twister. >> not just large hail damaging winds, and tornadoes. that would be enough. flash flooding over areas with five to ten inches of rain, it could be a dangerous situation this weekend. >> that dangerous situation continued for residents in colorado when this large funnel cloud swept through the city of cheyenne wells. from there to the fatal shootings two of police officers in hattiesburg, mississippi. two brothers, marvin and curtis banks and their alleged accomplice, joanie holloway have been arrested.

curtis banks was charged as an accessory after the fact of capital murder. the shooting happened around 8:00 last night. it was during a traffic stop. the two officers 25-year-old lacory tate and 34-year-old benjamin dean, were taken to the hospital and died. they were the first hattiesburg officers to die in the line of duty in three decades. joining me from hatiesburg ryan moore with our local affiliate. gorge good morning. you were at the news conference. the mayor made a point to clarify the nature of the traffic stop. what was he trying to clarify? >> reporter: he was trying to clarify that no traffic stop with the officers is routine. anything can go wrong at a moment's notice. that's what the officers are trained for. however, in this situation, it turned for the worst quickly. >> absolutely. all right. the timeline, walk us through that, because the arrests happened quickly. >> reporter: that's right.

after the shooting occurred along bowie street near the east 4th street intersection, officers from multiple agencies in the pinebelt area were brought in a massive manhunt underway. they knew there were multiple suspects curtis and marvin banks. a female in the vehicle was taken into custody relatively quickly. i'm talking within the hour. then it took a few hours later for marvin and curtis to be arrested. both still caught in hattiesburg. police had to step back and let agencies, the fbi mississippi bureau of investigation, and outside agencies work the crime scene because it dealt with their department. they basically spent most of the time behind the scenes consoling one another. i saw people leaning down comforting and embracing one another, trying to make it through the night. >> you can imagine. it's been more than three

decades since there was a shooting. what do we know about lecory tate and benjamin dean, the officers who were killed? >> both were outstanding officers. tate was new to the force, dean with the force for five years. both were as friendly as anyone you'll ever meet. both would do anything for you. aside from that, they loved people helping people, and loved how they served the community. >> ryan moore, thank you very much for the update on this tragic day. coming up at 1:00, i'll speak with the mayor of hattiesburg. in other news, a transformer exploded at a nuclear power plant in west chester, new york saturday. authorities say there's their are no reports of injuries from the incident and the fire which followed. it was extinguished and restarted again before it was completely put out. there are no ongoing emergency threats in the area. pope francis had a private meeting today with the president

of cuba raul castro. he thanked the pope for his involvement in reigniting talks between cuba and the u.s. the pope plans to visit the island in september on his way to the u.s. to a small town in switzerland. several people dead after a shoot-out. the city of roughly 4 500 inbound inbound -- 4,5 hundred inhabitants. police have declined to see how many were killed. in an exclusive interview with msnbc senator marco rubio is now responding to a "new york times" report on his close political and financial ties to billionaire norman brahman including donations and salaries spanning the past decade. >> you're a major donor of norman braman who was paying you a salary when you campaigned in 2010? >> first of all, that's been public for seven years. that was in my disclosure form when i filed as a candidate. he was a client of my law firm.

we did good work, and i'm proud of our association. the only thing he's asked my help on is charities whether cancer or genomic center at the university of miami, something donna shalala pushed for. norman braman has never asked me for anything from business in my time in washington, d.c.. >> joining me is senior congressional reporter for politico. with a good day to you. how common is it for a politician, a senator specifically to have this close of ties to one donor? >> it's common in the sense that in this era of big donors and big money and politics after the citizensish nationwide decision you're seeing this becoming -- citizens united decision, you're seeing this becoming a trend. newt gingrich in 2012. the reason his presidential candidacy and republican primary was able to sustain several month after it looked like he was dead in the polls was because of big donors like sheldon adelson. that's common.

the extent to which braman helped rubio financially and personally through his salary and as well as rubio is a guy who's not any -- he boasts about the fact that he is not one of the richer members of congress. he's had lot of debts, a lot of personal financial issues that he's had to deal with that a lot of folks have not to the extent that this donor helped in that regard makes it different than the other situations that are more common these days. >> i know in this article, marco rubio says that mr. braman is almost a father figure to him. something "time" alleges is that rubio steered the taxpayer funds to these favored causes of norman braman including it was the $80 million you heard in the interview for genomics center $5 million for a cancer center. the senator says he supported the project their merit. that there's no there there. do you expect that to hold

water? >> that's typically what you see. a fine line between acting officially and acting on behalf of a donor. it's something that members of congress deal with all the time when there is a big donor. someone who is helping them. and they're pushing something that the donor actually wants. that's a very tricky situation for them to balance. clearly he's trying to say that you know, he would have done this anyways. that's going to be a big question that's going to emerge particularly if rubio continue to pick up steam in the presidential race. >> you think any comparisons to be made to questions raised over hillary clinton's foundation donors? >> certainly. i think that will be one of the things if hillary faces rubio in a general election you can imagine the clinton people pushing back and pointing at that as one example of which to muddy the water a little bit. to help her deal with the questions about the clinton foundation. >> i want to switch gears and talk about what we saw yesterday, nearly all of the

declared -- the declared gop candidates speaking at the south carolina freedom summit. that was pout by citizens united. was this the roundup of usual suspects? are we starting to see the candidates differentiate themselves? >> not a ton. i mean i think that that was one of the challenges yesterday at the summit which was -- what was striking was that a lot of them were speaking from almost a similar talking point, bashing obama, bashing hillary. i think that will be the challenge particularly among lower tiered candidates ones that cannot raise the kind of money that jeb bush would be able to. that marco rubio will be able to. that those folks will not sound a whole lot it different than some other competitors. some of these cattle calls, it's going to be a challenge for these guys even if they do have some moment before activists and parties leaders, how do you show that you're actually a different type of candidate who believes something different than the rest of your guys. typically there's -- their policy positions are similar. >> okay.

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in baltimore, thousands will gather for a real for peace rally since the death of freddie gray. pop legend prince will perform. he's released a song for the rally. part of the proceeds will benefit baltimore youth charities. i spoke this week with author, talk show host and advocate tavis smiley about baltimore, racism poverty, and his fears about all three. i do want to talk about the baltimore protests tavis, of

course about the death of freddie gray. is there a larger issue here that is being addressed? >> i don't know if it's being addressed, but clearly there's a larger issue here. racism is still the most intractable issue in this country, number one. two, dr. king was right 50 years ago around the time that we were passing the voting rights act and civil rights act which we ought to be celebrating now 50 years later. king said five decades ago that the triple threat facing this country was something that we had to come to terms with. we had to reckon with. king defined that triple threat as racism poverty, and militarism. racism still the most intractable issue in this country, secondly to my mind poverty, threatening democracy. i think poverty is a matter of national security. and clearly in baltimore, once again, we sawmill trimp. the military -- saw militarism. the military staying on the game. racism poverty militarism, if we don't get serious about the triple threat in baltimore and

beyond, this might become the new normal. that is to say riots and uprisings might be something we see too frequently. >> you've written so much about this and talked about what we do not need. we do not need more commissions, more task forces. more fleeting national conversations. what is it that we do need more of to find an actual remedy? >> we need courage. we need conviction. we need commitment. we need leaders of character. barack obama some years ago said that our destiny is not written for us. our destiny is written by us. i agree with the president in that regard but that means that we need to be intentional about the chapter we're going to write. which means someone has to stand up and provide the kind of moral leadership. one could debate whether or not there's any real political leadership in washington. but certainly we're lacking moral leadership. this is not just about black and white. it's not even just about wrong and right. it's about humanity and dignity, and so long as we live in a

nation where we can't respect the humanity of other fellow citizens much less revel in their humanity, then we've got a problem. this democracy is growing older, but we're not growing up. we're growing older but not growing wiser. >> yeah. you wrote about that in "time" magazine. it was a powerful statement that you wrote, tavis. >> thanks. >> you criticize president obama. what should he be doing in your mind? >> you know, that word criticize always troubles me. i take your points. i take a big boy pill every morning i wake up. so i can handle the pushback. it's not so much criticism as it is trying to hold the president accountable. i think we, you and me and msnbc and pbs and all of those networks and periodicals and newspapers, the media at large, alex, i believe we are at our best when we're holding leaders accountable. and so it's not so much criticism as it is trying to hold leaders accountable to the best interest of the everyday american fellow citizen. when leaders push agendas like this trade bill the president is

trying to push through which i disagree with, when leaders push agendas that i right wing antithetical to the best interest of the american people i roll at our best -- our role at our best is to hold leaders accountable. if some find that critical, i accept that. ultimately it's not about my agenda or not even about the president or the presidency, it's about the people and these issues that i think ought to be better represented. >> president obama's stance on race relations has always been debated certainly. can he take a specific stance on specific race relation and still put himself forward as being the president for all americans? >> he can. this is not -- whether he chooses to is another issue. this is not a skill challenge for him. it's a will challenge. he's shown the skill to talk about race and shown it when he chooses to do so. when barack obama was running for president, so many of our colleagues in the media thought that the best speech he ever gave was the speech he gave on race relations at the national

constitution center in philadelphia. he chose to give that speech about race relations and got high marks from white folk for giving a great speech about race. that isn't easy to do. to get white folk to be with you on a race speech. barack obama pulled that off as a candidate, then senator obama, when his campaign was in trouble. when he had no choice his back was to the wall. the jeremiah wright incident had become too problematic for the campaign. he then stepped up to address the race question. now inside the white house, we have as i said in this piece, you know sorts of a hands-off approach by the president to a hands-up crisis. and that's problematic. the president has again the skill, does he have the will does he think that his presidency is going to be determined by race just because he addresses it? here's the part that's ironic for me. this president has done everything he could and can to avoid talking about the issue of race, and these moments keep coming up. these crises keep happening on

his watch. maybe it's him not stepping into his moment and being the kind of transformational as opposed to transactional leader that he can be. maybe it's an opportunity to be a statesman and not just another garden-variety politician. i don't know. i'm not all knowing. what i do know is when the same issue keeps coming up time and time again on your watch and you don't step into your moment i wonder whether or not when he's out of the white house he will start to rethink whether or not he could have done more while he was in the oval office as opposed to taking on the issue of my brother's keeper when he and michelle are no longer in the white house. >> let's switch gears here and talk about the 2016 election. certainly the gop field is filling up now. as far as the dems you have officially hillary clinton and bernie sanders. who do you want to see get the democratic nominations. >> you know, it's not a matters of what i want. it's a matter what i think is best for the country. i think hillary clinton is -- one has to admit, i think, that she is one of the most qualified in the race, never mind her gender. she's served this country

honablyhon-- honorably and well. she's a bit too hawkish for me and oftentimes not as progressive as i'd like. i think that bernie sanders would give her the push from the left that she needs. and i think ultimately this is -- this is good for her. she seems to have embraced his campaign publicly at least. i hope she means that -- in part because barack obama became a better candidate, alex, because hillary clinton pushed him. and i believe that when we are pushed, our better angels come out. we become better candidates. we become better people when we are willing to have our assumptions re-examined. willing to have our inventory of ideas expanded. so being pushed i think from a left flank ultimately makes her a better candidate for the midterm -- for the general election. >> tavis smiley's book is fantastic, it talks about his decades' long friendship with maya angelou. it's called "my journey with maya." it is out now. early on in his administration, president obama promised the country high-speed

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until, inhibition creeps in our world gets smaller quieter, but life should be loud. sing loud, play loud, love loud. dentures shouldn't keep you quiet, life should be ringing in your ears. live loud, polident. welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." u.s. military bases in this country remain on high alert today. the alert level was raised over concerns of isis-inspired attacks. homeland security secretary jay johnson said he's confident security officials can deal with the threat. >> every event every attempted event is definitely a lesson learned. but since nevin9/11, we've come a long way in our ability to

interface with state and local law enforcement just on my watch in the last 16 months. we've had to ramp up our communications with state and local law enforcement because of the manner in which the global terrorist threat is evolving. >> nbc's kristin welker is standing by at the white house. and with a good day to you, how concerned is the administration about isis-inspired attacks here? >> reporter: well, the administration has long been concerned about isis-inspired attacks, but those worries have escalated. this week the department of defense, as you mentioned, ordered a heightened state of alert for 3,000 u.s. military bases in sites across the country. now while that announcement is not the specific result of a specific threat, the military's concerned about several recent incidents including last weekend's shooting when two isis-inspired gunmen were killed after they tried to target an anti-prophet muhammad event in garland, texas. here's more of what jay johnson

had to say. >> isil, other groups, have called for attacks on government installations, military installations which is why we have ramped up our federal protective service at federal buildings around the country and why the military, department of defense is taking action itself. these are prudent, cautious steps in a time when the public and law enforcement and our government needs to be vigilant and needs to be aware. >> reporter: intelligence officials also say there has been an increased level of chat or line. isis, as you know has been effective at winning over recruits with those sleek videos on social media. the obama administration administration has s focused on trying to find ways to counter that messaging. there's no word on how long that new heightened state of alert will be in message. alex? >> all right. thank you. now for the headlines at 33 past the hour, isis has claiming credit for a prison break in iraq outside of baghdad. dozens of isis members

reportedly escaped. 50 inmates and 12 guards died in the incident according to officials. a daring rescue this weekend aboard the "genekwt"q2ueen mary ii." after learning a passenger was suffering kidney and heart failure, the coast guard raced out from cape cod. the man of safely airlifted to a hospital near boston. in southern california one little girl gave her mom the ultimate gift this mother's day, her life. the mother, a diabetic, was lying unconscious when her 6-year-old called 911. >> i told them that my mom froze. >> further mother's day i'm going to be thanking her. she saved my life. >> pretty fabulous there. the fire department responded. they are praising the girl for being so calm and so brave. now to the unusual late season storm that's dumping inches of snow in the colorado rockies. joining me from rapid city south dakota is, nbc's scott newall, how bad is it on this

may 10th? >> reporter: yeah, mother's day. winter storm venus. supposed to be the goddess of love. where's the love for mother on this mother's day? the good news is we've had several inches of snow here. the bad news is, you know it really created really -- the upper teen windchills and the wind is still coming out of the north at 25 miles per hour. not a pleasant day. but the good news is in the last hour or so we've had some big improvements. we've had visibility improvement here. the streets which were really slush covered at one time started to improve, as well. and they closed i-90 for a portion there for a while. they've reopened it now. we are hearing that on a portion of i-90 there is a section where the traffic is going at about i guess around 20 miles per hour. and there's still a lot of people who have gone off the highway. and it's difficult to get help to these people. the highway conditions are not great. we have a winter storm warning here until 6:00. but the forecast which at one

time we're saying up to ten inches additional snow, that's improved, down to two to six inches. a miserable day to take mother to lunch or dinner. but it is improving. and things will get better by midweek in rapid city. should be in the 60s. back to you. >> all right. thanks for that. can i ask you quickly about denver. we hear they're going to get pounded, as well. >> reporter: denver had several inches of snow earlier today. and their winter storm warning ended at 9:00. conditions have improved there, as well. and this whole system though extended from here up in rapid city down through cheyenne wyoming, and down to denver. so it's been a very active weather day here. also i should mention to you, in the eastern part of the state near mitchell, south dakota there was a tornado warning and a possible touchdown of some sort near delmont. they reported damage there. so it's been an extremely busy weather day in south dakota, in wyoming and colorado as well.

>> yeah. i've got to tell viewers, we're looking at a split screen. on the left, that is the colorado rockies's each stadium getting cleared of the snow. that's crazy on may 10. thank you very much for the report from south dakota. now to a new report that examines u.s. prospects of high-speed rail service which would ideally connect major cities across the country. it was a promise made by president obama early in his first term. >> imagine boarding a train in the center of a city no racing to an airport across a terminal, no delays, no sitting on the tarmac no lost luggage. no taking off your shoes. [ laughter ] >> imagine whisking through towns at speeds over 100 miles per hour. >> of course they're with joe biden in the background, regular amtrak rider to his home in washington. in 2015, the promise of high-speed rail remains just that, a promise. while more americans are traveling by train, many trips are slower today than they were get this 100 years ago.

a contributing writer at the "national journal," and "why can't america have great trains," the article being discussed now. welcome to you. high-speed rail command around the world. japan operated the first bullet train in the 1970s. and france has had one routinely and smoothly since the '80s. china rapidly building a high-speed infrastructure. why not in the u.s.? >> yes. republicans and democrats have different answers to this question. republicans for most part say in washington that amtrak is run by the government. it's laden with bureaucracy and high labor costs. democrats say it hasn't been funded enough. if you look at japan and france and spain and china, the funding is much higher. for example, amtrak gets about $4 billion a year. high-speed rail in china is getting $130 billion a year.

the problem is possibly if you had talked to advocates, it's expectation, what we expect out of trains. in other countries, trains are expected to take a loss. they're subsidized. that's a big reason the infrastructure is at higher quality. in washington, we expect amtrak to make money. every year people especially in the republican party say, well, when is amtrak going to break even. so advocate will say why don't we ask that about bridges or roads, why don't those break even. we don't expect them to. we doo we see amtrak as a way to get from point a to point b, or is it part of the national infrastructure? >> what does china see at that u.s. doesn't? if you look at china and the vast geography they're trying to link cities putting in over $100 billion into this, okay. part of the problem with the united states, according to your article is the geography makes it difficult in places. >> yeah. >> not for china. >> right. china, four, is not quite as democratic as we are. the problem is not just geographic but also political.

there's 50 states and lots of competing interests. so when obama made his prom i, it wasn't just a promise. he allocated close to $11 billion for high-speed rail. the problem, it was up to governors in states like florida, wisconsin and ohio to use money for high-speed rail. and in the tea party wave of 2010, you had rick scott and scott walker and john kasich who rejected several billions of dollars for high-speed rail. that money ended up getting diverted into incremental borrowing sort of not so interesting projects. so the obama promise which was earnestly made and -- and in good faith ended up not working in part because there was a partnership that wasn't fulfilled between the states and the federal government. >> so amtrak cites the acela top speed of 150 miles per hour. a symbol of progress. the reality is a lot different. the acela averages 69 miles per hour on that corridor, the most popular one between washington and boston. other rail corridors are even slower. why can't amtrak speed things

up? >> i mean, look, if you look at the acela corridor, it's chugging along, hitting different cities. it's hard -- there's a madrid to barcelona which goes an average of 150 miles per hour or so. there are lots of stops in between. part of it is the infrastructure is old. you would need something like $150 billion to upgrade the track, to gets newer cars. to get dedicated tracks. one of the big problems -- this is wonky -- but amtrak shares all its tracks with freight railroads. they own almost all of the tracks in the united states. basically these big sort of very profitable bully railroads tell amtrak to get out of the way. amtrak shares with commuter rails especially in the northeast. so what you need in short is a lot of money. and the government is not going to spend $150 billion on amtrak any time soon. >> with amtrak having been created in 1970 they were taking over the passenger operations from pirate railroads, ultimately, do you think that was a mistake? could private enterprise have done it better? >> probably not. the reason why amtrak took it

over is because the prior railroads were unprofitable. the frailty railroads owned the passenger lines were and begging for congress to take it off their hands. they were big money losers. passenger rails has been a big money loser. i don't think that -- we probably have no trains at all if the private -- public sector hadn't take ten over. there's certain areas where the public sector is more than happy to spend a lot on transportation infrastructure. between sort of for highway and for airlines basically through taxes and federal subsidies, they're get being 50 times more in federal funding than trains are. if t's never been a priority since the inception of amtrak. >> i tell you, for me who has as operational expectation of that l.a. to san francisco high-speed rail corridor, you were telling me during the break, maybe a couple of decades. okay. thank you very much. good to see you. >> thanks. what's in a name? a look at the challenges facing hillary and jeb as they each try get from behind the shadow of their family legacies.

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tofsd my first time to be able -- today was my first time to be able to meet with pastor jonathan physical welfare reformy -- jonathan falwell. here at the university his dad used to be president, then his brother became president. somehow i don't know what it was, we really hit it off. [ laughter ] >> i'm not sure what's in store for you, jonathan. but i'm pulling for you man. >> that was charming there. it also was potential republican contender jeb bush delivering the commencement address yesterday at liberty university. despite his jokes about the bush legacy it could be a serious liability for him in 2016. of course, jeb bush is not alone. hillary clinton, too is working to get from under the shadow and policies of her name. so come k they overcome it? joining me is "newsweek's"

andrew cooper "the cost of jeb bush and hillary clinton." thanks for joining me. >> thanks. >> talk about the hurdle tell me how high it is for jeb push bush. >> you know, it's a mixed blessing. i guess any family legacy is. and especially in his case. he's got all the momentum that comes with being a part of the bush name, the bush family, the bush brand. problem is his brother enunciated a number of policies that will not play well in this republican primary. he's got to find a way to distance himself. his brother is seen as a big spender. his brother was very pro-immigration reform and a number of things where jeb's got to make his own way. >> so you're talking about really the animus of george w. bush for many democrats, that's obvious. with regard to republicans, how does he get out from under that? >> well, i think he's playing an interesting gave he's pushing

off in some ways you know, he got asked by one interviewer about whether governors can be good foreign policy presidents. and he cited ronald reagan but not his own brother. on the other hand he has stuck to his guns on the issue of immigration reform. he's going to walk a line here. it will be interesting to see how he does it. >> the biggest legacy issues for hillary clinton to battle, what are they? >> it's most -- it's a little easier for her. bill is very popular among democrats still. so there's not as much need to push off him personally. there are policies from the '90s that hillary clinton is already distancing himself from. certainly on the question of law enforcement and more prisons being built and people being put in the prisons. she already said this past week the era of mass incarceration is over. that was distancing herds in a big way from her husband.

>> absolutely. do you get a sense that hillary clinton is -- has evolved from her statements and president clinton's old positions, or is she following the voters? >> always hard to parse that out. democrats have done rethinking about the positions, whether it's that question of filling up the jails, whether it's some the trade agreements. you know, nafta does not look as good in retrospect as it was hyped at the time. i think in general there's rethinking, but she's conscious of the politics of it too, and the benefits come from pushing off some of her husband's positions. >> can i ask about george h.w. bush? a much different legacy than his son. tough to find someone who doesn't like him as a person. is he too far removed from the game to make a difference for jeb bush? >> no. i think in a way he -- he helps more than his brother. look i think his presidents leave office and more time elapses, you know between when they leave the white house

people tend to look more fondly on them. certainly some of the things his father did whether it was, you know putting together a united coalition and the first gulf war and then pulling american troops out before incurring huge casualties the way we did under his son's war, i think those thing look good for jeb. he looks like his father and less like his brother, i think that helps him. >> okay. "newsweek" contributor math use contributor. thanks. the age-old question, why do diets never work? my next guest says they never will work, but there are some other key ways to lose the pounds and keep them off. stay with us. rise asked people a simple question: can you keep your lifestyle in retirement? i don't want to think about the alternative. i don't even know how to answer that. i mean, no one knows how long their money is going to last. i try not to worry but you worry. what happens when your paychecks stop? because everyone has retirement questions. ameriprise created the exclusive confident retirement approach. to get the real answers you need. start building your

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based on her research and self-control and the psychology of weight loss. tracy with a welcome you to, we'll get right to this. i know you say there are three biological, physical changes happening when you diet. what are they? >> that's right. so when not enough calories come in to your body your body doesn't know that you're trying to lose weight. your body think you're in some sort of situation where there's not food around. and you're in danger of starving to death. so it sets into motion what i call biological starveation mode. what happens first of all, your body makes changes so you can survive longer on the same amount of food. it does that by altering your metabolism. the same amount of food that normally you lost weight eating now is not going to -- you're not going to lose weight with that much food. that's one thing that change. another thing that happens, your body goes to great lengths to make sure that when food becomes available, you notice it you think about it and you eat it.

and you eat a lot of it. it does that by changing your hormones so you are less likely to feel full given the same amount of food. then there's neurological change. there's neurological changes that make you notice food more, that make you think about it more. and you basically become preoccupied with thoughts of food. especially the foods that you're forbidding yourself from eating. >> you're saying this is a lot more than willpower. willpower alone won't do it. >> absolutely. if you've struggled to keep weight off, it's not because you have a weak will, it's because the rules have changed. the games changed under your feet. things that were working before are not going to keep working. >> so what does work? i mean, i want to know about the strategies that do work. we all watching want to know about the strategies that work. >> yeah. yeah. so what i recommend is for people to aim for their lowest weight that doesn't set off that biological starvation mode. okay. i have lots of strategies in the

book to help you get there and stay there. and once you're there you can be happy you can be healthy, and you can get on with your life. >> so it's -- >> here's one of the strategies in the book -- >> okay. >> would you like to hear one? >> give me one. >> okay. so this is a strategy to help you eat healthy food, and it does this by taking away obstacles between you and that food. so the hoist thing you can eat is -- healthiest thing you can eat is vegetables right? there's one big obstacle to eating vegetables for many of use -- we don't like them as much as the other food on our plate. this strategy is going to take vegetables out of the contest that they're definitely going lose, right, the contest between vegetables and spaghetti. and it's going to put vegetables in a condition test they might one -- a contest they might win. vegetables versus nothing. i call the strategy get alone with the vegetable. all it is, put a vegetable on your plate and eat it before you put anything else on your plate or even on your table.

we actually tested this with kids in school cafeterias. we gave them a cup of baby carrots before they went into the cafeteria to get the rest of their food. four times as many kids ate vegetables when we did that. >> okay. that is a super good example. as a matter of fact, i think a lot of people watching will go home or be at home today and grill vegetables first or put out raw vegetables, eat them first. and then go for the rest of it. >> absolutely. >> this is a great book "secrets from the eating lab." thank you very much for coming on and giving us an idea of how to spend our days in the kitchen and at restaurants and the rest the grocery store. i appreciate it. have a good one. >> thanks. >> thank you for having me you, too. ahead on this mother's day, i'm speaking with a ma'am who takes issue with the helicopter style of parenting and says tough love is the way to go. boys?

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