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took the stand for the defense. she talked about she had met with tsarnaev five times since early march. this is the first time we're hearing from someone who's spoken with tsarnaev since he was arrested and since he was spending the time in jail since 2013. and actually shared this information with us as a witness. she said when she saw him he was pleasant open and respectful, and she said we talked about his crime. they had disagreements, but he was always respectful. when asked did he express his feelings about what happened to the victims, she said he said emphatically, "no one deserves to suffer like they did." she said tsarnaev seemed absolutely sincere and she said his voice had pain in it. she thought that he was remorseful and sorry for what he did and when she was asked if she believed him she said yes, she did believe him. it's interesting when it was

rebuttal at that point, i should say, that's when the defense rested sister's testimony. following that the prosecution began its rebuttal and after first in cross examination of her, if she was an advocate against the death penalty. if she did speaking engagements wrote books, et cetera she said, yes, she did. then on redirect she was asked whether or not she was paid for her testimony today, and she said, no she said she was not paid, no money went to her ministry or to her order. she was also said if you would have told the jury that if you did not think that tsarnaev was remorseful, would you tell the jury something different? she said no she wouldn't, she would just simply tell the truth. tamron? >> rehema ellis live in boston thank you very much. turning now to more breaking news, three people dead and nearly a dozen remain

unaccounted for after another round of severe weather last night. this is the scene this morning in van, texas. that's about an hour east of dallas, where the search is on for ten people still missing after a devastating tornado last night injured dozens of people and damaged about 30% of that tiny town. here's also new video on the ongoing search and rescue mission. at day break, crews began combing through the rubble with search dogs looking for anyone who might still be trapped. the storm since 26 residents to the hospital some of them with life threatening injuries. the tornado in van, one of dozens of twisters reported yesterday in iowa more than 100 people were inside this high school when a tornado came directly overhead tearing the roof off that building. moegz amazingly, everyone made it out safely. flooding also a big concern today. look at this video. this is north texas, the texas national guard air lifted about a half dozen people to safety

after they were stranded in homes by the fast rising waters. >> all of a sudden. i mean there was nothing you could do even if you saw it coming. >> it's scary. it really is. to know you've got to be air lifted because there's no other way to get to you, it's scary. >> joining me msnbc meteorologist bill karins. we know 40 million people now potentially in line for more severe weather, but you look at what happened this week, just a checklist. >> we didn't even mention the snow. >> right. >> two feet of snow also the tropical storm in the carolinas. it was quite a trifecta of storms. that's not good when tamron mentioned ten people still missing, that tornado struck at 9:00 local time there, just about an hour to the east of dallas. it's been about 12 hours and still can't locate those people. i hope they can. maybe they are at work or somewhere else. combing through all that rubble and debris is tough work. as far as now, we're actually looking okay. it's not too bad out there.

all those storms that did cause problems last night in texas, they are still going on still pushing to the east but they are weakening. houston, you look all right. austin, lightning strikes you can see on here and back towards lufthas been. we're doing okay storms die off. they'll fire back up. we still have the cold front marching across the country, very warm air across the eastern half of the nation cold air heading east the collision is going to happen right in the middle of the country here, from memphis, southwards tupelo down through the new orleans, baton rouge area lafayette, houston, austin san antonio, damaging hail and wind possible but this is closer to where the actual storm is so the winds are veering with height a bit. that helps the thunderstorms to rotate. if we're going to get tornados today, ohio southern michigan fort wayne, louisville, cleveland, back up to detroit, grand rapids will be okay even indianapolis. we're not going to get a lot of

tornados today, just a few. eastern north carolina, our friends are about to say bye to a storm that's been with you for about a week. now it's bringing light rain and gusty winds, but tomorrow you'll return to some of your warmth. tamron, worst of it today, michigan, indiana, and ohio. if we're going to get bad storms producing pictures like we saw, that's where it will occur. >> all right, bill thank you. let's go to van, texas. kerry sanders is standing by. what's the latest as far as looking for those unaccounted for and assessing all that damage? >> well as you can imagine, the aftermath of something like this, the confusion that takes place and the stories that are told that may not be true. i tried to track down who is who and where they are, maybe simply, a lot of people hoping just a sense of the confusion rather than a case of somebody being buried under the debris or perhaps even killed. i'm right now over behind the intermediate school that's the middle school there, and it is a mess. it is really torn up the power

of this tornado came through picked up the metal sheeting as well as the very strong metal poles that were used out here as sort of a makeshift car park and literally twisted them into a pile of rubble. and portions of the roof of course, were lifted completely off. other portions have collapsed. over on the bool fieldall field, piles of debris, things have collapsed, part of a gymnasium, as well as trees ripped from their roots. i had a chance to speak to some of the people that survived this folks who had to hunker down, they say they had a little bit of warning, they heard the sirens going on and off, on and off, and because of where they live they weren't sure whether they needed to take it absolutely seriously or not, but then, of course they reck nietzed this is the real thing, they were diving for cover. some folks had to get into the hallways, into the bathroom.

i spoke to one man 17 years old who lived across the street from the school everything is gone he's wandering around the grounds of the campus looking to see if he can find anything. among the things he found was one of his little tool kits. >> wow, all right, this devastation is unbelievable. looking at some of this video, as we mentioned, 30% of the buildings and structures in that small town destroyed or damaged by this. thank you very much kerry. also following a developing story in mississippi, where the suspects charged in the killing of two police officers are due in court this afternoon. a vigil is being held later today for officers benjamin deen and liquori tate who were gunned down saturday night. gabe gutierrez joins me live from hattiesburg. we know just an outpouring of grief for the family members of these two officers. >> reporter: that's exactly right, tamron. those four suspected expected to be arraigned this afternoon. two of them charged with capital murder in the deaths of these

two police officers. really shaken this close knit community. overnight in hattiesburg, a candlelight vigil, the city mourning the deaths of 34-year-old denbenjamin deen and liquori tate who graduated from the police academy just a year ago. >> they took away my baby. >> reporter: on mother's day, she had this message for her son's killer. >> the hurt is unbearable. >> reporter: his family says tate wanted to be a police officer since he was 4. >> he was a hero. he backed up his partner. >> reporter: police say officer deen stopped the car for speeding saturday night, when tate arrived to back him up, shots rang out. both officers were hit and the suspects took off in one of the police cruisers. following a man hunt -- >> did you do it? >> no, sir, i didn't do it.

>> reporter: police arrested curtis banks and charged him for being an accessory. two others were charged with capital murder. a fourth suspect was later charged with obstruction of justice. the shooting comes as police around the country are on edge thousands turning out to mourn a fallen nypd officer on friday. according to the national law enforcement memorial fund the number of officers ambushed and killed last year was three times higher than the year before but hattiesburg's mayor says he does not think deen and tate were targeted. >> i think we had police officers in the wrong place at the wrong time and someone who didn't want to go to jail would rather shoot his way out, that's a sad commentary. >> reporter: those two police officers are the first killed in the line of duty here in hattiesburg in more than 30 years. that public memorial service is now scheduled for this afternoon. tamron? >> gabe, thank you very much. developing now, first saudi arabia, now three other countries will not send representatives to a white house

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arabia's king salman a key u.s. ally announced he won't attend and his decision appears to have ripple effects. in wake of that bahrain's ruler also announced he won't be there, and as of now only the leaders of kuwait and qatar, two of the six arab states invited to the summit are planning to attend. nbc news senior white house correspondent chris jansing joins us live. the new york times says among those reporting that this of course, has to do with the nuclear deal in the works with iran. >> well, tamron there's never been any hiding the fact that saudi arabia had serious concerns about it not the least of which is that if sanctions are eased on iran that means they get more money and allows them to potentially expand their influence in the area something the saudis are already very much concerned about. now, what both saudi arabia and u.s. officials will tell you is that this is not a snub they say, in fact the analysis on many corners is that the king is

not the best one on the details of the iranian deal so they are sending people who are better equipped to talk about that in some detail. having said that even the white house acknowledges that on friday they talked about the meeting that was going to happen between the president and king salman on wednesday, then of course the summit on thursday. it wasn't until friday night that the white house was officially informed that he was pulling out and some details of that were worked out on saturday. and so as one congressional leader said to me while he accepts the fact that king salman may not be the best person to get into the details, this was to be a leadership conference. that was the description by the white house and at the very least it looks unseemly tamron? coming up, jameis winston is now suing the woman who accused him of sexual assault. the nfl's top draft pick says he's losing endorsements. the latest is next.

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reputation, saying she's vilified mr. winston with the objective of getting him to pay her to go away. ms. kinsman is motivated by the most insidious objects, greed. kinsman, who most recently identified herself, filed her civil suit against winston last month, two weeks before the nfl draft. she claims the former florida state quarterback sexually assaulted her while she was intoxicated in december 2012 after meeting her at a bar. winston has maintained his encounter with kinsman was consensual. prosecutors declined to file charges against him in late 2013 and he was cleared by the university following a student conduct hearing last year. kinsman is also suing fsu. responding to the countersuit, kinsman's attorney said the filing, "will place all of his prior misconduct and history front and center." joining me now is vice sports contributor, thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks for having me.

>> your report has become a part of this story, as because in the case filed against the young woman, the countersuit, i should say, your reporting is quoted because of information that you received regarding what happened in the conduct hearing. >> right, that's correct, so in the countersuit it mentions the media circus around jameis winston that the suit claims she created, and they specifically the only thing i think they specifically mention is a vice sports article i wrote late last year, december 2014, that included the transcript of the hearing, the disciplinary hearing at fsu as an example of i guess, sort of the lengths that she will go to create the circus. >> in your report vice obtained a transcript of the hearing, which you pointed out reveals harding and others were often confused by what the procedures of the hearing where were that

winston and the woman told incredibly different versions of the events that night and looking at the whole what was presented it's unclear how harding, the judge, came to the final decision. that was a part of what you reported there. it's interesting the developments that have happened before the draft and even where we are now, which include and cannot be ignored, this young woman coming forward for the very first time in this documentary, telling her version of what happened of what she says happened. i want to play a little bit of that. >> he put me on the tiled bathroom floor. i was trying to like push him off and kick him off, but he was just too big, and i said please, stop multiple times. i said no. eventually he pushed his hand over my face and pushed my face into the floor. and he just continued to rape me. i didn't know really what i was supposed to do.

i tweeted someone help me. my friend responded and she was like, well, tell me what happened. we decided that we need to call the police. >> and you said she was raped? >> yeah. >> okay she did not know the person? >> no. >> we did ask jameis winston's attorney to give us a comment, knowing that you would be on the show and that we would be showing the documentary and they said ms. kinsman told many different and inconsistent accounts of her encounter with mr. winston, fsu, the university, on its website, they went to great lengths to protect the rights and integrity of the student conduct code. as you know because you've covered this story, this is a larger issue as "the new york times" points out, this is more than about two individuals who are now suing one another, it is this culture, what some refer to as the rape culture on some universities. >> right. exactly. i mean that's the whole point of the hunting ground you know

kinsman's story gets a big chunk of that but the entire documentary is about sort of the ongoing issue of the way campuses handle sexual assault allegations and investigations and we see over and over again that campuses just tend to not -- university administrators just don't tend to do the job that they are supposed to be doing under federal law as mandated by title ix so the winston case because it's so famous and because it's gone on for so long and had so many different parts to it is really important in the discussion because we can really talk about how all these things come together including the aspect of college sexual assault, which is at this moment a real topic that keeps coming up over and over again. >> because of the documents and the information you were able to obtain, we also at least in this case get a glimpse of these conduct hearings which they have not been i think,

many would say, scrutinized as much as they should because of the protections allowed to the alleged victim and the person who's being accused. nevertheless, at different universities these hearings have been -- we've had eyebrows raised on how they are handled. >> right, exactly. i also wrote another piece in december about the case at the university of tennessee at chattanooga and have the hearing transcript for that disciplinary hearing and they are just very different and one of the things that's happening is as these things are coming out, we're seeing the universities there is no sort of set way they are actually handling these cases, even in the winston case the fact they brought in the former supreme court justice, supreme court justice to handle the hearing was a brand new thing. as far as i know that was the first time they had done it which was part of the confusion happening during the hearing, you know he was unfamiliar with sort of what was going on because it was a brand new thing for him, so we're just seeing sort of an ad hoc response in the last few years as

universities scramble to meet these title ix obligations and, you know, one of the things we have to be really clear about is that both the criminal justice system as it is and these university hearing systems, they are unfair to everybody, because they are just -- they are often handled sort of one by one the systems in place just aren't fair to anyone at this point. >> jessica, thank you so much for joining us. obviously, we'll continue to follow these counterlawsuits. up next how republican presidential candidate carly fiorina and her team are firing back at critics who are examining her controversial record at hewlett packard. it is part of this morning's first read. and this -- >> succumb to feelings of despair and anger only means that in the end we lose. >> based on discrimination in a powerful commencement address at tuskegee university.

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we are back with your first read on politics this morning. jeb bush says just like his brother, he would have authorized the 2003 invasion of iraq. carly fiorina defends her lack of political experience and also her controversial tenure at hewlett-packard as the ceo, including people who were let go and fired. plus the washington post now reporting that bill clinton is unlikely to play any kind of role in his wife's presidential campaign. joining me live now to talk about those stories, senior political editor mark murray. mark, let's start off with this new interview of jeb bush comparing him to his brother and hillary clinton. >> tamron one of the big take aways is how -- >> hillary clinton, to remind everybody and so would have everybody confronted with the intelligence they got, and in retrospect, once we invaded and took out saddam hussein, we

didn't focus on security first. >> all right, so that's a little bit of what he said. i'm sorry, go ahead. >> tamron i think one of the big take aways is how hard it's going to be for jeb bush to get out of his brother's shadow. a poll from last year found 66% of americans saying the iraq war was a mistake, wasn't worth it and you end up having jeb bush pretty much agreeing with his brother. this is going to play out at the republican debates and the general election if jeb bush becomes the republican nominee. >> obviously, the strategy is to avoid saying it was a mistake and then bringing in hillary clinton as a way to diffuse any kind of criticism that would come his way. >> that's right, it was smart of him to bring up hillary clinton. hillary clinton would argue she apologized for that war reauthorization vote back in the 2008 presidential campaign so she's done her penance there, and -- but it was not bad politics for jeb bush to bring up hillary clinton there. >> let's talk about a moment

from "meet the press" yesterday with carly fiorina defending her lack of political experience and also her record at hewlett-packard. let's play what she said. >> well they did fire me. i'm very open about that. i was fired in a board room brawl. the truth is this it is a leader's job to challenge the status quo, and when you do you make enemies. >> chuck was asking her, though about the process for hewlett-packard and the company where it stood after she left. >> yeah the big challenge for carly fiorina is this was her one very big job. she hasn't held elective office before, this was her one job and according to a lot of analysts, she didn't succeed at hewlett-packard, so that's a question she's going to be asked and it's worth noting not having elective experience was the quality that would rank the worst among all these kind of qualities that we had, so that's a big hurdle for her to overcome. >> all right, let's talk about

this "washington post" report that bill clinton is unlikely to play any kind of role in his wife's presidential campaign. how is that possible? >> with one big qualification, tamron, in 2015, i don't think it's any surprise he's not going to play a big role when her competition is bernie sanders, martin o'malley, lincoln chafee she probably won't have to utilize her husband until the general election or the convention not dissimilar to bill clinton playing a role for barack obama in 2012. >> i get the notation of 2015 and i get the explanation of the general election or the primaries, but in reality when you, for example look at the jeb bush interview where he pivots to her, the attacks or her being called on the foundation or any other decision after he appears in the hearing from benghazi seems impossible she will not have the strongest ally that she has, one of the most popular politicians these

days, her husband. >> well and you know bill being an ally is sometimes a double-edged sword. on the one hand he is a great explainer in chief, as he proved in 2012 he's a brilliant politician, but he also says some things that make things complicated for her, as we saw in 2008 as well as just a week ago in his interview with cynthia mcfadden, so it cuts both ways tamron but for him to be the champion for her, testifier in chief, talking about the clinton economy in the 1990s, that's probably better terrain in a general election. >> mark thank you very much. have a good morning, we'll see you tomorrow. >> thanks tamron. a high school principal in georgia is apologizing for remarks she made at the school's graduation ceremony on friday that many in the audience found to be racially insensitive. it was all caught on cell phone video, so they end of the graduation ceremony the principal and founder of the tnt academy, nancy gordeuk, accidently skipped the valedictorian's speech.

when the crowd started leaving the church where the ceremony was held she tried to regain their attention. >> you are being so rude to not listen to this speech. it was my fault that we missed it in the program. look who's leaving, all black people. >> okay at that point many people started to walk out. nbc's sarah dallof joins us live now from stone mountain georgia. sarah, you talked to the principal today. she's trying to explain what she meant by that. what is she saying today? >> well good morning, tamron. nancy gordeuk is receiving hundreds of angry e-mails. she is facing criticism from here in stone mountain georgia, to across the country. people on social media condemning that remark at the graduation. we spoke to her just a little bit ago. she offered an apology yet again

and also explained her version of events leading up to that remark. >> you look left all i saw were black people getting up and leaving. i said oh look who's leaving, all the black people. so i made a statement. it wasn't a racist remark. anybody that knows me knows my heart is with these kids. i apologized to my family and my kids, and their graduation, i'm sorry it ended up like that and i apologized and we'll continue on. >> reporter: i also spoke with the aunt of one of the graduates who says gordeuk's remarks and her odd behavior throughout the entire ceremony have forever put a tarnish on the memory of this graduation and the accomplishment of all those young men and women. this aunt would like to see gordeuk reach out and make a private apology to the students away from the glare of the media spotlight. as for gordeuk, she says she is considering a leave of absence or appointing an interim

principal, but, tamron she says the work at tnt academy will continue. back to you. >> sarah, thank you very much. well coming up a terrifying collapse a stage gives way during a choir performance in china. it is one of the stories we are updating and following around the "news nation." and shark tracking. a massive great white nicknamed mary lee is making her way up the jersey shore. researchers are watching her every move. why so many people are fascinated with this shark. coming up i'll talk live with one of the scientists monitoring the shark and what we can learn from this journey. coming up.

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mary lee is her name. she's about 16 feet long and weighs around 3,500 pounds. researchers have been charting her movement with a tracking device they attached to her in 2012. her movements are now posted online and she's gained quite a following. in fact, more than 30,000 people follow her on twitter. in the last month she's made a nearly 20,000-mile trip up the coast and while she's got close to beaches in jersey over the weekend, this morning she is south of long island. joining me now is dr. bob hutter senior scientist on the research team. thanks for joining us. >> good morning, tamron great to be here. >> great to have you. okay let's start off with before we get into i think, some of the headlines and why the average person would be excited about this great white shark being so close, why are you and the researchers excited to track her and what can we learn from this journey? >> well we have this new technology now these tags we put on the fins of these large

sharks and learn where they go in their daily lives. in this case the tag on mary lee will last up to five years and we're getting a picture for the first time of the entire part of the ocean where the sharks go and where they go that tells us if they do go to different countries, who we need to work with to protect these very depleted predators in our oceans. >> and what are we learning for example, about either a lack of food or what she is searching for and how to save the great whites from obviously, to your point, some of the conditions and some of the fears that we have regarding saving these great animals? >> well you know sharks have been really decimated over the last 25 years, including white sharks but they are starting to come back through good fisheries management, and these are animals that are feeding on large prey they are not interested in people they are looking for things like seals

and small whales for example, and mary lee spends a lot of her time really fairly close to the coastline. so we're learning that these white sharks are not that far off our beaches, in this case this morning she's about 20 miles off, which is still pretty far, but fairly close, and yet they haven't really bothered people over their lives. >> what did you think when you heard as many as 30,000 people were following mary lee's twitter account? i know that it's not affiliated with you guys but she's got a fan base now. >> oh we're all part of this you can follow mary lee on facebook or twitter, instagram. there's an app for your smartphone to watch these animals. it's very important to a scientist that we're sharing these data with the public in real time, so all of us together are learning about movements of these great predators all at the same time. >> and i should point out her twitter account is not affiliated with the project, however, this is drawing great

attention to the project of tagging whales. but with that said here her size, i've read a couple of different articles that said she could be pregnant you believe she is. what do we know about her health condition and her size? >> yeah we don't believe she is in the sense that we have any real data to support that she is pregnant, but she is certainly a mature female. she was 16 feet and 3,500 pounds when we tagged her, but that was two and a half years ago, and she was mature then. so this kind of tracking which has never been available to us before, is going to reveal things like what their reproductive cycles are, where they give birth, and where the important areas are to protect them. >> well, thank you so much for joining us. we greatly appreciate it. i know our connection was a little dicey, but great to have you on and my dream is just to see this shark, but from afar. thank you so much. my favorite story of the day.

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atlanta sunday a day after arriving in the country. he was in guyana as part of delegation monitoring the election which takes place today. >> a scary moment caught on tape in china over the weekend. 80 singers were in the middle of their performance saturday when the floor gave way. eight hurt two seriously. the cause of the collapse not known. that's scary video. fox is pulling the plug on "american idol." idol's 15th season airing in january will be the last. ryan secrest will be back for the final season. now my next guest, reality tv star richard rollins star of "fast and loud" and founder of

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good to see you. >> good to see you. >> let's get to the fact what you all accomplished before 21. >> my dad didn't get to finish school. had kids early, always worked two and three jobs. his driving force bringing me up was get the education. don't have to work like i do. >> you ended up -- when you look at the list of things you did -- was it because you didn't have a specific passion or you were looking for that good job, that american dream? >> it was more entrepreneur spirit. in our great country you can do anything you want to do. i was able to do the things i thought i wanted to do. once i got to do the policing and fire fighting i was driven to do something else. i didn't know what i wanted to be. it was one of the times i saw my dad cry. he was like why would you leave that? i got in printing and advertising and led to ability

to start gas monkey garage. >> talk about the sketching out an idea of i want to start a garage to the success story you have. >> there wasn't a lot of car shows. what drove it home for me was i made calls and was asking why there weren't car shows on. the networks told me you can't build a car that fast. you can build a motorcycle faster than a car. i was like it's all steel, wheels paint. it was to prove them wrong. yes, you can build cars in a timely manner. we wanted to push the family aspect and involvement i had as a child with my dad. he had the motorcycle or toy car in the garage he played with on the weekends. we wanted to make it something that was achievable for anyone and any income level. >> wow. listen, i don't know how achievable some of the things on your show -- that would take a

lifetime for us to be able to do. i told the story of you getting shot over this mustang. what happened? >> wrong place at the wrong time. >> i love you smile about it. only a texan would laugh that off. >> i was a policeman at the time. i was young, only 21 years old. when i would go out with my friends, being that age, i didn't carry a gun even though i could. guys came up from behind a restaurant and decided to shoot first and ask questions later. i fortunately was smart enough to grab the gear shift and get out of there. >> that's amazing. you were once on your sister's sofa and now have this huge empire. is this how you saw it playing out? >> you know i'm a dreamer so yeah. it's what i hoped for. it's been a long long way to get there. we're blessed to be where we're at. a lot of things going on. >> if you could own one car, last car on earth, you'd be able to drive, what would it be? >> it changes everyday. >> you get one choice.

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