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the hatpies burg mayor does not believe the officers were specifically targeted but the loss remains just as raw. gabe gutierrez is there for us. >> reporter: tour'e good afternoon, this is an emotional time in hattiesburg the first two officers killed in the line of duty in more than 30 years. a public memorial service is now under way. and public here is remembering the two officers, first officer benjamin deen 34 years old and had been named officer of the year in 2012. then there was officer liquori tate, just 25 years old, a rookie cop who just graduated from the police academy less than a year ago. his family said he wanted to be a police officer since he was just 4 years old. on saturday night, police say officer deen made a traffic stop and stopped a vehicle for speeding. and called for backup and
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officer tate showed up and shots rang out. both officers were hit and the subpoena suspects took off in a police cruiser. they set to be arraigned in a short time, two charged with capital murder and fourth charged with accessory after the fact. we hope to get more information on what investigators say may have been the motive for these killings later on this afternoon. back to you, tour'e. >> gabe gutierrez, thank you for that. >> the fbi today updated its 2014 statistics and they say last year 51 officers were feloniously killed up 81%. the number of officers killed in shootings is rising and that's the light blue section you see there. it's up 56% from 2013 to 50 fatalities in 2014. the number of ambush killings are up 200% in the same time
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period leaving 15 officers dead last year. deen and tate were not the only officers fatally shot this year idaho police sergeant greg moore was shot and killed this month after stopping a man nypd officer brian moore died while attempting to question a suspicious person. in march, 21-year-old trevor casper shot and killed while attempting to apprehend a bank robbery suspect. joecy wells killed in a shootout serving a warrant to a double murder suspect in louisiana. fulton county county detective green and michael johnson shot and killed responding to a suicide threat. and yazi killed during a domestic violence called and philadelphia police officer robert wilson killed when he interrupted an armed robbery. the nypd also officer liu and rafael ramos in january, shot
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sitting in their quad car. these instances that officers families fear every day and officers fear every day. let's bring in retired detective marcus flaxton, former nypd officer eugene o'donnell. let me start with you, when i was in baltimore, some of the officers told me they feel there's a class of criminal that nowa days feels more emboldened than ever to shoot at cops. do you feel that's the case? do you feel like other officers would agree that's the case? >> i think if you look at historically from a historical basis that there's always been a time when criminal opportunists and individuals who will commit murders and killings of police officers were in the community. i think there's a heighten the sensitivity understandably and rightfully to much of what is happening around the nation. these deaths of these heroic
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professional police officers really needs us to reexamine a lot of the safety measures that we provide them and the manner in which we allow them or encourage them or authorize them to conduct their duties. but the fact of the matter remains, it has always been the case that police work is a noble and honest and profession of integrity and that risk is always a possibility. we have explained it to our families and it takes a special type of person to willingly volunteer to protect and serve and often times tragically these type of fatalities occur. >> indeed that is so well said there by marquez. as a former police officer, how news what we saw coming out of mississippi over the weekend as that weighs on you as you go out to serve your community? does that add to the heightened sensitivity that we're talking about? does that impact the way you think about and do your job?
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>> well i think what makes this more noble than even usual, these cops are out there in the midst of a firestorm of criticism which is totally legitimate but some does veer into hate speech and the profession and individuals. for these cops to be out there in the middle of that putting themselves in harm's way, officer moore in queens take ag gun off the street and giving his life to take a gun off the street to save the life of the young people in the community, that's nobel. we can absolutely, policing has to be criticized it's a nonstop process but when you see people online saying that police officers -- they can -- it's all right if they are killed because they choose the work so their lives matter less and crazy commentary like that it's important for people to push back against that rhetoric and that stuff. especially since there are unhinged people damaged people who hear that and take it to
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heart. >> as you said earlier, we've been having a national conversation for some time now about this. do you think we've been having a balanced conversation or do police officers and their families feel vil fid for the actions of a few here if that's the case how do we find the right balance and have the right conversation about this? >> well i think what's happened is the conversation prior to some of the more recent events has been unbalanced and it's been unbalanced and weighed heavily towards police officers and not really dealing or address the issues or concerns that the communities in which the police officers operate had. so i think no there's a shift and really it's really the tidal wave calling for reform. it may appear that now there's imbalance but i think there's always been an imbalance. those people who advocate reform on many levels reasonable people not the nuts who call for assassination of killing of anyone especially a professional police officer, not those but i think reasonably
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people are looking for to it become back in balance and i think another thing we have to remember is that law enforcement and police officers in particular are super hypersensitive to any form of criticism. we operate and we have prasted fraternally and us against them too often. i think any discussion that pulls away from that takes them out of the comfort zone. you'll see and hear a lot of times this kind of visceral reaction from law enforce. but it still remains a noble profession and we just have to be mindful not everyone can do it and should do it. >> and any homicide is a tragedy we want to provide. i want to ask you about this an enforcement model where these terrible shootings of police are often in force when allegations are raised by police shootings which are less common than the traditional violent crime we're talking about, generally they
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are often not fully investigated or enforced so that creates imbalance. speaking of that we have data on these killings of officers nationally. we don't have uniform data on police involved shootings. do you think it will be better to prevent both problems if we had uniform data? >> we have to be real careful. there's an extreme to this conversation not real helpful and you already hear it in different places on the internet about african-american crime and the issue we're dividing people up here. i don't think making an equivalent between the potential murder of a police officer and unintentional murder of somebody or unintentional killing of somebody trying to make an arrest are equal. i don't think that's helpful and not helpful to contextualize the police are different than other people, they doing different work. ordinary people don't do car stops and deal with people desperate and don't deal with the level of mentally ill armed
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people and nation -- there's a lot of reform conversation and good things that can happen but i think there is an extremist conversation breaking out and those of us that take a very moderate perspective on this and reasoned perspective, it's important to brip the conversation back and find the common ground here. >> i think that's fair. at the end of the show i'll have thoughts on how to make policing safer for the police. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> next the boston bombing trial reaches a key turning point. we'll go there live. more dangerous weather is on the way for the heartland. we'll track that for you. any moment now, we could learn tom brady's fate for his more probable than not role in deflategate, all of that and more as the cycle rolls on more likely than not for monday, may 11th. (dog) mmmm. we've been together since 2012. dinner is absolutely our favorite time together. i do notice that sometimes i eat better
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right now we're in a turning point in the penalty phase of the boston bombing marathon trial. court has been recessed to wednesday when courts will hear closing arguments. rehema get us up to speed here. >> reporter: as you point out, we're in recess until wednesday. that's when the closing arguments will come. the judge will then charge the jury. the deliberations will then begin, which will bring it into the penalty phase of this trial. we've had the guilty phase with that verdict coming on april 8th and now this trial is about to come to an end itself.
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there was a dramatic moment i think it's important to point this out with a last witness called for the defense and that was sister helen prajan she is a staunch advocator against the death penalty and talked about how she met with tsarnaev five different times and commented on how young appeared and said something about his demeanor that they had not heard. they heard about him as a child and student and him as a young man. but not about him as a defendant in this case and how he's reacted to what crime he's been committed of and she said when she asked about the crime committed. he said no one deserves to suffer like they did. she said he seemed absolutely sincere to her and pain in his voice when he said it. how that's going to impact the
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jury, we do not know. it will be interesting to hear after these deliberations are over and after this case has settled if any of the juror said that that had any i am pablgtmpact to learn how tsarnaev felt about the victims that suffered as a result of his action. crystal. >> dramatic testimony here thank you so much. >> also developing in boston today, the clock is ticking on tom brady's possible suspension for his role in deflategate. it isn't a question of if, it's just when and how many. the when may be as soon as today and how many ranges from two games to six. it is more probable than not that andrew brant is ready to weigh in. nice to see you. >> there's a preponderance of evidence that i'm going -- >> indeed. >> what did you say, when and how many? >> the when is the first part.
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i think the nfl is not going to let this drag on. i think now we have the wells report and it's time it's time for a discussion. i would think deliberations have happened and there might be some timing issues in terms of making sure everybody is apprised and knowing appeals may or may not be coming. but i'm guessing by this time tomorrow we'll have something. yeah it could come down this afternoon, tomorrow afternoon, i'm thinking this is the time within the next 24 hours. >> andrew nice to see you again. the wells report that the colts thought about the game was even played that the patriots migts do something and the colts said the patriot have had reputation of cheaters especially for monkeying around with the ball. that the reputation you hear about the patriots? >> you know this is sort of this age-old question pushing things to the edge versus cheating. that's the debate about all of
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this. what is cheating and what is pushing to the edge and trying to get the last little competitive edge. i think the patriots are known for pushing that and things that you wouldn't even think about quote/unquote cheating there are a little bit unrevealing with their injury reports, bill belichick doesn't do more than he has to do with media availability. these little things. is that cheating? no, it's going to the edge of the area. i think there's this paranoia about this team there always has been, maybe it's belichick or their successor real that they take things right to the edge if not over. the colts are one of those teams that has always been if you will paranoid about the patriots. i just want done how many teams besides the colts kind of weighed in on this. are we just looking at this championship game or not even far back this year buttal the way back with tom brady handling footballs for years and years.
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>> i can speak for myself here but what's sort of annoying they seem like they don't care, like a cockiness as part of this. they care about their fans and the fans care about winning and what they've been able to do swin for them. i look at the big picture, a-rod suspended for dope and cheated with cheers back on the field. suspect isn't it it going to be the same thing, suspended for a few games but like a little hiccup? >> depending on how long this is going to be and if we have appeals, yeah listen even in my appearances on tv and writings, i have heard from patriot nation. there's this divide out there and tom bratddy can do no wrong and he'll be welcome back no matter what. huge cheers for him especially if he comes back after a long absence. i think we will have a suspension. i just think there's a evidence.
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i know people harp on the more likely than not but that is evidence, circumstantial evidence is evidence. there's this scheme with the ball boy with the equipment assistant and officials attendant and it implicates tom brady, i think we'll see some of that and see a suspension sfwl will tom brady lose endorsements? >> i think that's going to be one that i would say no. i would say that this will not have the effect of the tiger woods, the lance armstrong, even the alex rodriguez. i think the infraction relatively speaking is minor. the issue becomes cheating and lying and i said this about the suspension i think whatever suspension comes down part of it will be for the scheme of tampering with the footballs but another part of it maybe more than 50% will be for this lack of cooperation for not turning over his phone even though the personal stuff on the phone could be vetted out, just this
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general noncompliance with the investigation. >> i think that's a great point. we know you'll stay on the story as will we. thank you so much. also developing right now out of central florida, george zimmerman has been involved in another shooting the police department tells nbc news they responded to reports shortly before 1:00 this afternoon but wouldn't say much more than that. our affiliate is reporting that zimmerman suffered a minor gunshot wound and was able to walk into a waiting ambulance there. a witness says the incident may have been related to an ongoing dispute. zimmerman became a household name for his involvement in the death of trayvon martin a crime he was acquitted of. up next tornadoes and floods and the severe weather is on the move again. rafael is tracking it all for us and gets us up to speed next. hey pal? you ready? can you pick me up at 6:30?
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another very active severe weather day. we're tracking a tornado warning in southeast louisiana, doppler indicated, nothing on the ground just yet but we're focusing on the midwest and ohio valley and tornado watch in effect for portions of michigan detroit through the evening. no tornadoes just yet but we're tracking this line two lines of severe thunderstorms racing towards the east. receipts let's take a closer look this is i-75 lima and producing winds up to 60 miles per hour and all of these storms are warned as well. a watch box in effect for portions of kentucky and these storms racing again along i-75 towards lexington, numerous severe warnings as we head into the afternoon and that's not the only threat. all the way from the gulf coast right to the ohio valley the worst weather expected to be in the midwest.
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places like detroit, cleveland under that enhanced risk for severe weather and threat will linger into the evening hours and maybe even into the early overnight hours. tomorrow the severe threat continues across the south including texas but extreme heat in the northeast, 88 degrees in new york city. right now we're tracking a couple of storms in and around new york city very spotty but heavy rain a possibility. we could see flooding but right now a quieter picture in dallas and that is good news of course, folks still cleaning up. right now we'll look. jay gray is in van, texas looking at yesterday's damage. jay? >> we want to give you perspective on the damage here. i'm standing on the other side of what was a chain link fence. these are the tennis courts from a school. this is part of the awning that ripped away as we walked around. that's the elementary school behind me. it's been ravaged with another school in van. they have four weeks left of classes and trying to figure out where they are going to hold the
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end of school. tler power lines and telephone lines down all across this small town. everywhere you go you can find debris and splintered wood and we have twisted metal and shingles off of roof tops and this is a school administration building as well. it's been damaged. we've seen administrators walking through, surveying some of this. this all of the assessment after what was a deadly tornado last night. at least two people here dead. eight still unaccounted for at this point. 43 people taken to the hospital and the mayor here in van tells us 30% of this town has been ravaged by the storm. there are homes that have been completely wiped away. others severely damaged. now they start to work but concern is more severe weather could be on the way at the very least, very strong rain. back to you guys. >> jay gray incredible there. now to politics and quick 2016 quiz for young abby huntsman is
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jeb bush a candidate? >> yes. >> incorrect. jeb has not announced -- he's undoubtedly going to be a candidate sooner or later. >> that quiz does not seem fair. >> the former governor of florida is building a super pac and talking to voters and letting us know how he feels about pertinent modern issues. >> knowing what we know now, would you have authorized the invasion? >> i would have and so would have hillary clinton to remind everybody and almost everybody that was confronted with intel yens they got. >> you don't think it was a mistake? >> retrospect the intelligence that everybody saw, the world saw, not just the united states was faulty and in retrospect once we invaded and took out saddam hussein, we didn't focus on security first and iraqis in this incredibly insecure environment turned on united states military because there was no security for themselves
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and their families. >> why would he say that? is politico right that he's hurting himself by waiting so long. will abby get the next 2016 quiz question right? >> yes. >> incorrect. let's bring in hunter walker from business insider. hunter, why is jeb out saying what he would have done if he had been in charge when the iraq war came? please answer. i mean -- this whole conversation is bizarre to me. we spent a bunch much time saying what we know now or things said then or please help me understand? >> there's no question that for jeb bush his brother's record is one of the looming issues over his noncandidacy candidacy at this point. you've seen in the past couple of days not only did he say this but also said that george w. would be one of his top foreign policy advisers if he does indeed officially run. >> is this what the base wants
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to hear? >> i mean i think there were two ways he could go with this and we're seeing his strategy. time will tell whether that's a good idea but i think when you're jeb bush what other option did he have my brother was terrible now vote for me? >> it was a lightening exchange megan kelly is a good interviewer and asked a very specific question knowing what we know now. and as we just saw, he does not answer that question. and then incorrectly uses the term in retrospect to have it both ways. her point was given that we know so much what a failure this was, would you want to avoid this foreign policy failure? and he failed to answer that. he says well my brother, what we did then -- hillary did the same thing based on what she knew then. >> he's misstating hillary clinton's position --
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>> before we even get into that we'll have a whole campaign to talk about, that's what he's doing, trying to actually avoid, almost as if you could see that he had done the candidate prep work for this question if it were do you stand by your brother but not what the way she asked it. doesn't that show something that basically jeb bush is prepared to as you just ee lus dated own the politics of w and the republican party whatever comes but not actually from what i just saw prepared to rec on with the harder foreign policy learning curve we've had, which is that these i countries are hard things. >> you heard him say we maed a mistake not building a community for iraq. the part you see him stepping away from is the intelligence misrepresentations in the leadup to the war. that clearly seems to be the
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most difficult thing for him to deal with is the fact his brother led us into the war on this questionable rational. >> embracing his brother and also embracing money. tour'e mentioned this politico piece, taking his time to get into the race and in the meantime aides say raising up to $100 million based on individuals and super pacs and their argument is that might hurt him because he could be rusty and not introducing himself as a full-on candidate, to which i would say at this point isn't money all that mat ares. is he doing the right thing here? >> i think it's a great strategy. you're seeing jeb bush prepare to run the first super pac campaign. we've had these dark money groups in there for a long time but this is the first time where the super pac may have more money and better advisers than the official campaign. so what he's doing is he's allowing himself to be hidden from the pesky campaign finance regulations and campaign contribution limits that will come in when he has to officially declare.
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he's installing a shadow campaign with the best advisers and trying to keep himself out of the fray -- >> having it both ways krystal. >> the other thing that really benefits jeb, just how many people are in this campaign that throw their hat in the ring of the conservatives don't seem to be out -- falling all over themselves, but when you have that many candidates splitting up the vote it lowers the threshold of what you have to get to to succeed. >> they are looking at this in terms of lanes. the only one who as a real clear lane is rand paul. you have a moderate establishment friendly lane that has jeb bush people are very worried about rubio, there's scott walker then the hard corps conservative size with ted cruz and mike huckabee. i think that crowd is not necessarily great for jeb. the one thing he has going for him is hillary clinton. what you could see happen is in
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new hampshire, because she has no real challenger that causes a lot of moderate independent voters to vote republicans -- >> with this many if they wanted to get a table at the chinese restaurant it would take two hours. >> any restaurant really. >> not just a chinese restaurant, krystal is right, any restaurant. >> i like chinese. >> that's why all candidates are stopping at chipotle. >> boom. >> that looked like a preplanned cuisine joke and it wasn't. that was top of the dome of the hunter walker answered questions correctly unlike abby. >> my money is on abby. >> thank you. >> can you hold a gulf arab summit without leaders? the white house is about to try.
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building close relationshipwise multiple american presidents but in a surprise move the new king of saudi arabia is announcing he's skipping this summit. the white house says it's not because ofny sub tan tif disagreement. >> there have been some speculation that this change in travel plans was an attempt to send a message to the united states. so the message was not received because the feedback we've received from the saudis has been positive. >> the decision comes at a time when the new king has taken a somewhat more activist approach to foreign policy with the iran -- with the war against the iran back rebels in yemen and that put the u.s. in a somewhat difficult position of trying to choose how to intervene for peace or watch the dangerous proxy war continue. the next guest knows all about,
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wrote a new book called the "the fog much peace." how are you? >> very well thank you. >> let's start with the saudis and closeness of theu.s. saudi relationship has been criticized as constricting our choices and now there might be some sort of new friction. >> this is a reflection of a broader pen nom none. the u.s. has been used seen as the ultimate security guarantee and it is no more because of the new distribution of power. and that means that all of the regional powers are taking harder position and saudi arabia israel and two different countries are two illustrations of that. >> let's talk about syria, a country where you spend a lot of time and work hard to try to bring peace and obviously we see chaos in civil war and isis there. it seems like the perfect example of no good choices, no good options, perhaps the father piece you talk about.
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what should we as united states be doing? >> what's sad is i think if one has taken a harder position tougher position with president assad two years ago it might have been less difficult to solve than it is now. but at this stage, there is a stalemate but neither side has a perception of a stalemate. they all think they can win. and so without the united states getting a strong sense that assad cannot win and the position that it supports will be -- cannot be just bombed out of existence, i think you won't have any negotiation. you're not going to end the war just by winning, you will end the war with negotiation, before that negotiation can start, you need to create that sense that nobody can win. >> that syria, you look more broadly at the interventions in the middle east with the intent of creating peace and calm to the area. question is have we brought
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peace anywhere? it feels like we've just further poked the hornet's nest wherever we go in the early 2000s there was much too great optimism on social engineering and you change the country and bring peace. i think now there's a sense that it's difficult and complicated and let's not just touch it. think the real debate on intervention today is how to find a reasonable solution. lower emissions but that doesn't mean we will not engage or intervene, sometimes intervention is needed. but the kind of inver vengs where you throw military force, there's no political strategy behind, that is bound to fail and that's what happened. >> you need compromise. >> you need compromise and use the force to push for a political solution. the force is there to impose an order, it doesn't work. >> there's a u.n. report discussing american short comings in terms of policing and race in terms of surveillance.
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what impact does that have on our standing around the world? >> well i think the u.s. remains by far the most powerful country in the world but the kind of soft power that has been the greatest asset of the united states that has considerably weakened. even if a lot of countries still see the american way of life as a model, i think they don't -- all of the discourse on freedom has been compromised the impact has been undermined by all we've seen from nsa to behavior of the police and that kind of thing. that's very important. if you pretend to all the high ground and people think you're not doing your homework at home it feeds into anti-american propaganda. >> internationally there was tremendous hope about barack obama's predcy, everybody remembers the nobel prize.
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what do you think the reception is to the candidates we're seeing and the role they play in the world, someone like rand paul that would be potentially far less interventionist? >> i think a lot of people are worried in the world because everybody complains about the united states when it intervenes and everyone wants the united states to be around. and so the sense that -- at the moment obama is trying a very difficult balancing act, whether he's succeeding or not depends but he's trying hard. and the sense that the u.s. could move the situation would really just stays behind his borders, that is worrying and frankly that doesn't work. if you don't treat the problems early on then they fester and become much more difficult too address. >> all right thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you, appreciate it. >> up next he's fast and loud. the star of discovery's hit car
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carjacker from stopping it. our next guest has. his dad started buying and fixing up cars as a teen and ultimately went from sleeping on his sister's couch to owning the famous gas monkey garage and starring in his own reality show about it on the discovery channel. competed in trans continental races including the famed can none ball run. topping out at 200 miles an hour and shattering the 1979 speed record by five minutes. his new book called fast and loud takes readers behind the journey and tips for flipping your own vintage cars. so great to have you here. >> having a good time. that's what it's all about. >> are you that guy when you see an old awesome car you stop on the sidewalk and have to circle it around five time? >> and i'll knock on the door and try to buy it but it's a hobby like anything else and
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turned into a passion and business. i'm very blessed to be where i'm at. >> what is it about american men and cars? really though -- >> european men have the bug too. >> it's a symbol of freedom. it's an extension of freedom and extension of yourself. you're able to customize it and makes it your style. no different than the suits we're wearing or what have you. the freedom of being able to get away. >> and good american car can be super testosterone and masculine and bring that stuff out. i want to hear about the cannonball run. >> it was a while back in 2007 and we just had an opportunity and it was the right time and right place to try to go across country and try to beat the record. the record stood since 79. everybody knows the movies from the '80s, burt reynolds and these guys were doing that stuff back then. they really were. now this more folk lor and maybe
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a guy here or there tries it. but someone bet us money we couldn't do it. >> is it legal? >> it's not legal. >> don't try this across america. >> they shouldn't try but you're doing 200 miles an hour on a real street and might encounter or cars and cops? >> you might, looking back on it probably wasn't the smartest thing i've ever did. you probably find a few you're not super proud of but it is something that's engrained in automobile history here in the united states. you know there was a reason they were doing back then. something cool to be a part of. >> let's talk about the good and nonreckless work you do. flip cars for profit and charity? >> we have gas monkey foundation i started two years ago. what we do we have a national car donation program similar to one in almost every city. you're able to go online and do nature your car, truck or boat and it will get sold and the money goes to alzheimer's and
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dementia, my dad has it and he's the one that got me into this business and there's only fleeting moments now that he realizes what i'm doing and other times he doesn't get it. >> what i'm doing and other times he doesn't get it. >> if someone at home is watching this and thinking they like cars, how would they want to get going? >> how can they be you? some people want to know. >> for mistakes i've made in cars i probably could have went to harvard about three times. you've got to be willing to make mistakes. you have to work within the confines of whatever you can afford to do. it's a full spectrum. there's $500 cars out there as much as there's $50,000 cars out there. so the hobby really is achievable for anyone and everyone. that's what we try to show the most on the show. you have fun. you can enjoy this with your family and with your kids. and, you know get out there. make a little money if you want to. or at least have something fun in your garage. >> what is the fascination with the older models. take them as they were. because we live in a commercial culture right now where everyone
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wants the upgrade, the update the newest thing. and you're sort of glorifying and spending time on things that are decades out-of-date so to speak. >> trust me, the brick phone is coming back. but it really is about the nostalgia and the cool factor and there is a lot of new technology that you can put into old cars now. as a matter of fact, we do it quite a bit on the show where we just recently took a 2015 dodge srt and stuck it all underneath a 1971 dodge. and so you really can have a little bit of fun there. but we're not doing anything different than even the guys did back then. they would buy spgomething that was really cool and try to make it cooler. >> they want to do the safer question. i want to go back to that. 32 hours from coast to coast. what were you driving and how did you get there? >> was it all a night? >> it was straight through. that's the whole thing. you get to stop if you want to stop foot food. we stopped for gas. 2,811 miles.
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we only averaged 86.7 miles an hour. did we get fast? yeah. but you're not driving that fast all the time. you're out in the middle of the desert. just trying to get from point a to point b as quickly as possible. >> it was a 1999 ferrari. >> what's your favorite car to work on? >> you know what? that's what's really beautiful. we're not locked into any certain genre. we build something different every time. we're not a misuscle car shop. personally i'm a '32 ford nut. i think dodge is making the fastest stuff out there. >> so many questions, so little time. thank you so much. we appreciate it. up next, the most shocking thing toure saw in baltimore and what has to do with our top story today. but before we head to break, we have to give a shoutout to one dad who stole the show on mother's day. oh yeah here's "the cycle's" sports picks. we take you sunday to citizens bank park. daniel murphy at bat.
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he launches a ball into the stands in the waiting hands of the phillies fan who not only makes the one-handed grab, but does so with his 7 1/2-month-old son strapped to his chest. no glove, no problem, folks. the phillies they could have used his skills. this guy gets our pick for play of the day. my school reunion. i don't know. who wants to play in idaho? gotta get milwaukee up to speed. we win in flint, we take the lead. we'll close the deal if we just show... when it's go, go to the new choicehotels.com. the site with the right room, rewards and savings up to 20% when you book direct. choicehotels.com hey! have an awesome vacation everyone! thank you so much! you're so sweet. yummy! key lime pie at 90 calories. it is so good for not giving in.
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they would stare straight away giving that 1,000 yard stare saying i'm just standing where i was posted. part of what those yelling citizens are angry about is the perception that black cops are sometimes more vicious than white officers. david simon says "the most brutal cops in our sector of the western district were black officers." to many from baltimore, it was not a shock that three of the six officers charged in the death of freddie gray are black. when citizens view joining the police force as a betrayal, as co- colluding with the enemy, you know relations have gotten deeply bad. the reason why they're so frayed, why so many urban citizens view police as another inner city problem, is because we have put our police officers who we need in a horrible position. david simon says "they're an army of occupiers and once it's that, then everybody is the enemy." many in the community feel the police function as an occupying force and some agree.
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a retired police chief once said, when you're telling cops that they're soldiers in a drug war, you're destroying the whole concept of the citizen peace officer, a peace officer whose fundamental duty is to protect life and be a community servant. general colin powell told us what a soldier's duty is it's to kill the enemy. when we allowed our politicians to push cops into a war that they'll never win, that they can't win and let them begin to think of themselves as soldiers the mentality comes that anything goes. studies show black and white people consume and sell drugs at similar rates. people who have been to college know how easy it is to get drugs. but police focus their militaristic drug war tactics on the hood because it's easy to get arrests there. but are all those arrests making a difference? is a militaristic posture making us safer? a retired dea agent wrote raiding family homes in the middle of the night didn't win
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many hearts and minds of vietnam vets and it's unsuccessful here. this is particularly true in the black community. at the basis of our current policing crisis is that the war on drugs has forced our police officers into war footing that violates the basic tenets of policing and makes it harder for them to do effective police work. if we really want to have better policing, we must look beyond ideas like body cameras and bias training and black lives matters protests. all of that is valuable. but for a real answer we must look to end the war on drugs. and the political will is there. a recent pew poll says 2/3 of americans believe the drug war should focus on treatment rather than prosecution. we can get more effective policing. america, we can do better. that does it for "the cycle." "now with alex wagner" starts right now. we are following multiple
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breaking stories this afternoon. much of the country is bracing itself for more severe weather. the suspect in this weekend's killing of two police officers in mississippi are expected in court this hour. and at any moment police in lake mary florida, will hold a press briefing on a shooting involving george zimmerman. zimmerman who was in 2013 acquitted in the shooting death of trayvon martin. that george zimmerman was involved in a shooting incident while on the road this afternoon, according to local police. zimmerman's attorney said a bullet missed zimmerman's head but that he was sprayed with glass from his vehicle's windshield. according to police, the shooting may have been related to an ongoing dispute. in january, zimmerman was accused of assault by his girlfriend, but no charges were filed after she recanted the allegation. zimmerman was also accused of domestic violence in november of 2013, but no charges were filed. tremaine lee has been following the george zimmerman story for us at msnbc. he joins
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