ollowing multiple breaking stories this afternoon. much of the country is bracing itself for more severe weather. the suspect in this weekend's killing of two police officers in mississippi are expected in court this hour. and at any moment police in lake mary florida, will hold a press briefing on a shooting involving george zimmerman. zimmerman who was in 2013 acquitted in the shooting death of trayvon martin. that george zimmerman was involved in a shooting incident while on the road this afternoon, according to local police. zimmerman's attorney said a bullet missed zimmerman's head but that he was sprayed with glass from his vehicle's windshield. according to police, the shooting may have been related to an ongoing dispute. in january, zimmerman was accused of assault by his girlfriend, but no charges were filed after she recanted the allegation. zimmerman was also accused of domestic violence in november of 2013, but no charges were filed. tremaine lee has been following the george zimmerman story for us at msnbc. he joins me now. what do we know about this in

terms of the ongoing dispute? >> we don't know much at this point. we're waiting for this press conference to begin any moment now to get a little more information about exactly what happened. but clearly this kind of cloud of violence that had been following george zimmerman even before the killing of trayvon martin there were allegations from former colleagues that he roughed some folks up issues with his girlfriend. then after the trial, pointing a shotgun at a girlfriend apparently punching his ex-wife's father in the face. it seems to be mounting let alone the vehicle issues. he's had road rage issues. this kind of cloud, this continue continuum that makes people wonder when it will end. >> we have dissected a lot of george zimmerman's personality. this, i think, informs almost in hindsight, we sort of look back at what we once thought and what we see now. there's a character profile that's building here.

of course we have no idea what went on in this particular incident. it doesn't sound like george zimmerman was hurt. >> no it doesn't. and it's all bits and pieces at this point, but hopefully we'll find out more in a few minutes. apparently he may or may not have been waving a gun at the other person. the other person says this is part of an ongoing dispute. so we'll see. >> there's more information we're getting. the press briefing is under way in florida regarding george zimmerman. let's take a listen. >> he reported that he had just been involved in a shooting. simultaneously the lake mary police department received a 911 call from a third party on behalf of a matthew apperson a white male who stated that he had just been involved in a shooting with george zimmerman. at this time the investigation has proven that george zimmerman was not the shooter.

he was transported to a local hospital for minor injuries and has since been released. lake mary police department is awaiting counsel in order to interview both parties, and at this time we have not determined how or why the incident and altercation began. >> can you confirm that this is the same george zimmerman involved in the september 2014 road rage incident? >> that is correct. [ inaudible question ] currently the investigation is in preliminary stages. we cannot determine at this time whether or not charges will be filed for either party. >> what did mr. zimmerman say happened to him? >> he had just said that he was part of a shooting and that he had been shot at. >> did anyone get arrested? >> at this time there have been no arrests made. >> where is everybody right now to your knowledge? >> i am not sure. >> did zimmerman have a weapon with him at this time?

>> we are not releasing any information regarding the weapons or details of the investigation at this time. it's still ongoing. >> we've seen a bullet hole in one vehicle. have you uncovered bullet holes anywhere else? any local businesses? >> at this time those are all details that are part of the investigation and we're not releasing information regarding that. >> one bullet hole? >> still part of the investigation. we're not releasing any information regarding that. >> besides the incident any other altercations that your agency has investigated? >> other than the incident in the fall? no. >> did the citizen return fire? >> at this time it appears that george zimmerman was not shooter, no shots were fired from george zimmerman. >> do you believe he was the initial aggressor? >> at 1:00 today, george zimmerman flagged down one of the officers from lake mary police department on west lake mary boulevard, just before trail head park stated that he

had been involved in a shooting and someone had shot at him and his vehicle. simultaneously, we received a third party 911 call from a matthew apperson who stated that he was the other party involved in that shooting and was requesting police to respond to his location as well. the shooting occurred somewhere between waymont trail road and clerhead. that is still part of the investigation. >> this could have been very dangerous for other drivers who were out there at this time. any other injuries or anyone who saw anything that may help you guys out? >> we have no other injuries reported. but we are welcoming anybody that witnessed the incident to please contact the lake mary police department with details. that would help us further our investigation. >> so you believe it did happen on lake mary boulevard -- >> an update from police in lake mary florida, who are speaking about a shooting. back with tremaine lee. here's what we know from that

brief press statement. there was a -- george zimmerman flagged down an officer. george zimmerman was apparently not the shooter. he sustained minor injuries. i think the big take-away is the person that was involved in this shooting with zimmerman was also involved in a previous incident with him in september of 2013. >> that's right. that case from september of 2014, apparently there was this incident between the two men. george zimmerman apparently threatened to kill this man. and later on george zimmerman shows up at the workplace of this individual. and so clearly this is an ongoing something between the two. clearly there was one road rage incident in september and now there's a bullet put in george zimmerman's window. clearly this is a trail, and still no charges. >> no arrests have been made. also no information as to whether george zimmerman was armed or had a weapon in his vehicle. i'm sure you'll be following this. we will bring you the

developments as we have them. thanks for your time, tremaine lee. we are also closely monitoring potentially severe weather from michigan to texas. up to 43 million people are in the path of an expected band of thunderstorms, large hail damaging winds, and tornados all possible. a tornado watch has been issued for parts of kentucky, ohio indiana, and michigan. this comes less than a day after deadly tornados ripped through the midwest and the south. in van, texas, just east of dallas, a violent twister left at least two dead and injured two dozen others. cars were completely crushed and buildings were flattened. north of dallas, ten inches of rain fell in five hours, leading to flash floods and at least one death. the texas national guard rescued six people trapped by the waters including this 5-month-old baby girl. in lake city iowa a twister tore off the roof of a local high school. 125 people were inside that building, but amazingly no one was seriously hurt. all told, at least 26 tornados were reported across the country on sunday.

joining me now from the hard hit town of van, texas, is jay gray. what can you tell us about recovery efforts that are under way? >> reporter: they are ongoing. a lot of people pouring out to see what happened here and trying to clean up. i want to give you some perspective, alex on what they're dealing with here. sheet metal that came from an outdoor playground about 100 yards away. this you can find off rooftops anywhere. shingles scattered for miles here. this is a school administration building. here's one of the tree limbs of so many that are down. you can see the windows in this building are all shattered. it's destroyed inside. coming back across debris just litters the ground in this small town. you keep going, you see what used the a tennis court. part of a chain link fence here. it was ripped away. it looks like that may be the path of one of the twisters here. beyond that, we have the elementary school. it's been severely damaged. it's closed along with another school. four weeks of classes left here

so they're scrambling trying to find out how and where they'll finish up the school year here. we still know at least eight people in this area alex, are missing. there are active search teams out right now and pouring through areas like this trying to identify where they may be. it's a process that's going to continue as they start to clean up but still have to be concerned about the possibility of more severe weather. there's the chance of at the very least heavy rain over the next few days. back to you. >> that potential for severe weather. let's go now to mike bettes for a look at where these storms are headed. what can you tell us? >> it looks like the primary threats will be across the ohio valley. we currently have tornado and severe thunderstorm watch in effect from detroit down to cincinnati including indianapolis over toward columbus. tornados could be an issue there, but also through portions of ohio west virginia, and kentucky watching for large hail as well as damaging winds. storms have already erupted here across i-75 i-70, i-77.

tropical storm anna now rolling its way off the virginia coast, but we have strong storms here mississippi down through louisiana and the possibility of more strong storms across texas once again. primarily coastal texas. here's our threat for the remainder of the day. everybody in orange could see strong storms. the worst of the storms highlighted in red. all the way back towards san antonio. tomorrow storms could return once again that may not include the mid-atlantic coast, from norfolk, virginia. and then a return of more storms across south texas as well. the primary threats here could be tornados large hail and wind from laredo to corpus christi. after that things get relatively quiet for the rest of the week. >> mike bettes thanks for that update. after the break, jeb bush's new comments on the war his brer brother started. >> knowing what you know now, would you have authorized the invasion? >> i would have and so would

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the family drama is a staple of movies and tv series and novels, and now the race for president. the two top 2016 contenders may have little in common politically, but jeb bush and hillary clinton share one unique campaign complication. those who share their last name. in an interview set to air tonight on fox, jeb bush was asked to revisit his brother's decision on iraq. >> knowing what we know now, would you have authorized the invasion? >> i would have and so would have hillary clinton, just to

remind everybody, and so would have almost everybody that was confronted with the intelligence they got. >> you don't think it was a mistake? >> in retrospect the intelligence that everybody saw, that the world saw, not just the united states, was faulty. >> joining me now is chairman of the slate group jacob weisburg peter baker, and political editor and white house correspondent sam stein. peter, let me start with you, in terms of the bushes on the subject of iraq. it seems it sounded in that interview with megyn kelly was saying i would have done what my brother did, but also conceding the fact that there were mistakes made. from your reporting on the bushes and the bush administration, do you think there's a collective sense of remorse about that decision? >> well i think there's a remorse that they misjudged the intelligence and that they didn't understand what they were fully grappling with. i don't know if there's remorse per se about the decision to go to war.

at least george w. bush wouldn't say that he would do it any differently in terms of the broad decision. he does say and has said that he would have done certain aspects of it differently. but he has never said he wouldn't have invaded had he known what he knew now. some of his aides have said he probably wouldn't have invaded. it's an interesting question. jeb bush is confronted with a hypothetical there. there's no way he's going to distance himself from his brother's most important decision, but he does want to convey this idea that he would look at things in a somewhat different way. >> can you do that, though jake? can you have distance from george w. bush and also stand next to him? i mean, i don't understand how he can be in both places at the same time. >> no he can't. if you knew then knowing what you now know he sort of answered it saying hillary clinton did the same thing.

she wouldn't do the same thing bis based on what she knows now, nor would any rational person. peter wrote a terrific book about bush. i wrote a book about bush. we didn't answer the central mystery. why did bush go to war? when did he make the decision? i think it's like -- >> when did dick cheney make the decision for him? >> when was the meeting? it's the most crucial thing about the bush administration was that decision. i think we still fundamentally don't understand it. it's really hard to know without ever really knowing why bush wept went to war, what he would have done differently. >> what we do know sam, is that by and large the american people do not think it was a good desismgsde decision decision. i think the latest polling, 66% of the public says the iraq war was not worth it. i feel like what jeb bush's candidacy does is brings to the fore this kind of like central issue that we have as a country, which is what have we done and

have we made amends with it? >> yeah and the numbers aren't you know, down partisan lines here. there's a good swath of the republican electorate who feels very torn about the war, the implementation of the war, the execution of the war. jeb, for instance, is being attacked this morning on talk radio by laura ingram for saying that knowing what he knows now, he would have authorized the war. she has ulterior moat i havetives. she hates his position on immigration. but there certainly is an anti-war element to the republican party that exists. rand paul speaks for a lot of it when he talks critically about the decision to invade iraq. so he does run a little bit of a risk by aligning himself that closely with his brother. although i agree with what peter said. it's very tough to create distance from family here. >> yeah when you share the last name bush it's inevitably going to come up. >> what i'd like to hear jeb say, and this is a fantasy, is it was a mistake, but it was an honest mistake. and i think that's a sensible

position. >> and that's something he could probably say given the candidacy that he's establishing for himself. >> and politically, would that be so terrible? it might create a little tension at thanksgiving next year but it's a way of defending his brother, because they did believe that intelligence. the intelligence was wrong. and i think they have some responsibility for creating a climate where bad intelligence was promulgated and so easily accepted. >> maybe he doesn't believe it's an honest mistake. >> that is a question right? does he believe it was actually a mistake? >> the question too is to watch the contrast and effect with hillary clinton, who in the last few weeks is actually in some ways repudiateing some of the things that her husband did as president, namely criminal justice, where president bill clinton signed the crime bill of 1994. today she says it went too far. so does he by the way. today, obviously, she's an advocate for same-sex marriage. he signed the defense of marriage act.

the difference is bill clinton has distanced himself from some of the decisions he made in the 1990s that would be problematic for his wife running for president. and george w. bush hasn't and therefore jeb bush feels constrained probably not to go too far away from his own brother. >> and i think the american amount of shame around the criminal justice system is different than the shame we have around the iraq war, which is not necessarily fair, but they're different things if the national imagination. peter, you have given me an excellent entree into the second half of the discussion, which is hillary clinton ponders what to do about her husband in the present. the globetrotting former president is a magnet for attention, making headlines all the way from africa last week with comments about paying the bills with his paid speeches. now "the washington post" reports on the dilemma of bill a former president whose sprawling charitable ventures are rife with potential conflicts of interest, a political animal who logged 168,000 miles on the campaign trail in 2014 yet senior aides

say he does not plan to do any campaign activities for his wife in 2015. but the former president will be on "the late show with david letterman" tomorrow, where at least one thing is certain, he will not be ignored. okay so sam, i don't understand how you do this. like you say, bill clinton's not doing any campaign activities, and then he's going to go on "the late show with david letterman," which is going to be a de facto campaign event. if hillary clinton going to chipotle to get a burrito bowl is one of the most dissected campaign events of the year bill clinton on david letterman is going to be a campaign event. >> yeah i think anything he says is essentially going to be put through the prism of the 2016 election and deciphered investigated with a microscope to read the implications about what it means for what hillary will do and so on and so forth. i think we could probably use relaxation when it comes to that. i think the bigger points are the ones that peter emphasized.

he stole my points but they are valid points. there are huge policy issues that she and he will have to navigate based on his presidency. it's not just gay rights. it's not just criminal justice. but things like banking policy for instance. >> grass steigel. >> those are major elements of his legacy that she will have to figure out how to navigate. he can make simple statements through his press office. but either one of those will have to be made because she's running for president and those are lingering questions. >> but peter, i don't really understand how hillary clinton can be marching forward with a progressive reform agenda that tackles income inequality as a central tenet, while bill clinton is having very splashy events around the world with big dollar donors who are standing onstage taking photos of him in bottoms of coke as product endorsement. i just think it dramatically complicates the optics of this

and that may be surface, but it's also going to dog her throughout the year and next year if it continues. do you think he stays on in the same public role that he has right now with the clinton foundation? >> yeah it's a good question because they do want to cast the campaign as something going forward, not just answering for things that happened in the past. and the big thing right now on the democratic plate certainly, and even some republican plates is what to do about the economic disparities we see out there. the perception of her and him even in the democratic circles, forget independents is of people who travel and bring money to circles these days. a lot of conversation about $500,000 speeches that the former president has made. and so, you know, she's going to have to find a way to reconcile that. and, you know look other wealthy people run for president on platforms of caring about people who didn't make nearly as

much money as they did, but it's a challenge no question about it. >> a challenge is an understatement. jake, we have to leave it there, but you'll hang with us for the next segment which is great. peter baker, sam stein, thank you for your time. coming up we have breaking news out of mississippi where suspects in the killing of two police officers are about to appear in court. we will go live to hattiesburg after the break. ed people a simple question: in retirement, will you have enough money to live life on your terms? i sure hope so. with healthcare costs, who knows. umm... everyone has retirement questions. so ameriprise created the exclusive confident retirement approach. now you and your ameripise advisor.... can get the real answers you need. start building your confident retirement today. ♪ [announcer]when we make beyond natural dry dog and cat foods. we start with real meat as the first ingredient. we leave out corn,wheat and soy.

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hours ago, a shaken community held a vigil for the slain officers. >> this is not an easy job. it is not a job for the faint of heart. this is a job for those that rise above their own self-interests and dedicate themselves to a higher calling. >> joining me now is a reporter, how can you tell me about how the community is coping with this in the wake of all these national tragedies involving community and police? >> reporter: in hattiesburg, everybody is shocked and heartbroken. this tragedy, i think a lot of people want it to fall cleanly into the category of anti-police sentiment or anything like that. but really what people are expressing to me is that both of these officers were great people and great guys and that this is something that has just honestly just heartbroken this community. we just went to the vigil a few hours ago, and it was emotional.

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university, the subject, race as viewed through personal experience. >> was i too loud or too angry or too emasculating? folks have used plenty of interesting words to describe me. one said i exhibited a little bit of uppetyism. another noted i was one of my husband's cronys of color. >> the first lady's remarks came days after her remarks at new york city's whitney museum of art, a place, she said where many young minorities often feel today don't belong. comments immediately seized upon by rush limbaugh. >> this business about michelle obama saying that museums are for white people. i'm not allowed in places. people don't want me -- black people to this day. why play the race card over something like that? everything has to be about race with these people. >> these people presumably being the president and first lady of the united states

people who have apparently suffered their own fair share of indignities along the way. >> we both felt the sting of those daily slights throughout our entire lives. the folks who crossed the street in fear of their safety. the clerks who kept a close eye on us in all those department stores. the people at formal events who assumed we were the help. and those who have questioned our intelligence our honesty, even our love of this country. >> back with me is chairman of the slate group jacob weisberg and megan mckartle. these people. why don't these people stop talking about race? it's amazing. i guess it's not amazing. what do you think? >> it feels like there's so many people in america that just want a cookie for how far we've advanced in race relations in this country. there's a lot more work to be done. i don't think people are really

willing to engage in that. mr. limbaugh's criticisms aside -- >> kind of you to give him mister. >> he's the same person the whole uppetyism comment, that's the guy who said it. it's hard to take him seriously as a critic on anything regarding race. but at the same time you have a situation where people are just enamored with this idea that america is okay. and america is just fine. that america has progressed so far. >> and that they are the embodiment of how far we have progressed as a country. >> and also that regressions can be dismissed and that stuff doesn't matter. i wrote this today in a column that's going up this afternoon, a defense of uppetyism. that you should rise up above that stuff. keep your head high. and there's nothing wrong with feeling like you belong or that you are an equal to somebody like rush limbaugh. >> megan, i want to get your thoughts on something that

jemile just said which shelby steele said, which is i don't think whites really want change from obama as much as they want documentation of change that has already occurred. they want him in the white house, first of all, as evidence certification and recognition recognition. that it's about them being there and not about any work that lies ahead. >> i think that's right and part of the problem is that the work that lies ahead is harder work -- this is not the right word. but less obvious work than the work we did in the civil rights era. things i know as a woman, like microaggression, it's completely real, on the other hand it's hard to pin down because sometimes someone really didn't mean it that way. they did more difficult conversations to have structural racism is more difficult racism to address than a law that says people cannot eat at a lunch counter. it's very easy to form a law.

it wasn't easy to get to the point where we could, but once we had, it's easy to say no you have to let people sit at your lunch counter. it's a lot harder to deal with things in a legacy of racism. that interact in complicated ways with the economy and with the law. things like the disparate treatment of blacks by the police and so forth. so i think that conversation because it's a lot harder to have in some ways has this potential -- it's much easier to dismiss. >> i read the transcript of the first lady's remarks. but to hear her deliver them, the passion, the intimacy in terms of personal experience, it reminds me of the speech the president gave after trayvon martin, which was talking about the sound of door locks clicking shut as he walked by cars or women clutching their purses tighter, which was a revelation to huge parts of the country. i was very heartened to hear her take up that mantle again. >> well, she was talking to a black audience so everybody in

the audience understood exactly what she was talking about. i thought it was a great speech. because it sort of put a finger on this reaction of oh we elected a black president. we're good now, right? aren't we good here? but i think it's part of -- the other reason i-like that speech is it's part of the obamas feeling liberated at the end of their term. michelle obama couldn't have given that speech or wouldn't have given that speech before he was re-elected. even before the mid-term election. but there's a feeling now that they can kind of say what they think a little more. and i think she's absolutely right. rush limbaugh is an easy target but there's so many coded phrases. everything he says. that he can't hear it. or maybe he can and doesn't care. >> the cotton has been stuffed so deep inside his ear canal. then there is this. hours ago, government prosecutors sentenced ex-cia officer jeffrey sterling to 42 months in prison for leaking

details about a covert effort to destroy iran's nuclear program. sterling's harsh sentence inevitably drew comparisons to ex-cia director general david petraeus, who two weeks ago received no jail time no jail time, for leaking classified information to his biographer and mistress paula broadwell. megan, do you think this is fair? >> yes, i hear the chuckle. >> petraeus did cut a deal but i think the appetite for sentencing a hero of various military operations to jail for getting too chatty with a woman he was sleeping with was not there. >> classified law, let's be clear. >> i think that as a nation you kind of want it to just go away right? meanwhile, a guy who gave stuff to a reporter prosecutors were looking for the hard punishment and they got it.

>> if every government official who leaked classified information went to jail, there'd be more white people than black people in jail. >> that's probably true. >> so massively selective who you prosecute and why. the obama administration unfortunately, has been terrible on this. they have gone after these routine transactions that go on with the press. and, you know i don't think this guy did tremendous harm to national security. i don't think petraeus should go to jail. i don't think sterling should be going to jail. >> you think nobody should be going to jail. >> i think nobody should go to jail. >> playing the devil's advocate because i think many people agree here on this panel, but the administration has argued actual harm was done to our national security policy because our plan to sort of throw gum in the works of iran's nuclear program was messed up by jeffrey sterling whereas david petraeus's mistress was more of a lock box. >> we already executed the plan and the iranians already knew we executed the plan.

he didn't tell them anything he didn't know. >> i am not an administration spokesperson. they will argue that harm was done in a way that it doesn't with petraeus and paula broadwell. >> to me it underscores who they regard as the enemy. and one of the arguments that sterling made in his defense was that, you know this statute that he allegedly violated was meant to protect against spying not against leaking information to journalists. and so you view a journalist as basically enemy spies, that shows you a lot about what the obama administration has and the attitude they've taken towards journalism. >> as many white house correspondents can tell you. >> in fairness if you leak it to a reporter the enemy spies can read it. >> that is true because it would be printed in a newspaper. okay finally, for the second straight week "the avengers: age of ultron" shredded the box office. the only movie to beat the record the original 2012 "avengers."

"age of ultron" has yet to open in china but it has already grossed $875 million worldwide. why is television -- and i say television, and i mean also streaming services like netflix and so on. there is great -- it's the golden age of american content on the smaller screen. you have "mad men," "breaking bad" -- >> "the americans." >> "the americans." which your brother is the co-creator of. and movies have become basically just moving cartoons for 17-year-old boys. >> right. the two-hour trailer. you don't have to speak english to understand or even any language. it's nonstop action. you do have to adjust for inflation. you know they're going to keep getting bigger because money is worth less. you know the equivalent of every year we said new record price for milk. it is a nominal term.

i'm not sure if this is an absolute record, but it's a lot less of a record. >> we're looking to a different audience, too. looking to gross worldwide as opposed to just domestic. i wonder if you think there's a reset possible. like can we go back to "the godfather"? >> the thing is not that long after "the godfather" came out, you had "jaws." >> which was still a good blockbuster. >> indeed. but as long as these movies care about characterization and about promoting, you know character development and actually telling a story that is interesting, i don't care if there's robots or giant green men in it. >> so you think vin diesel is like a character -- >> well i didn't see that. i have not seen fast and furious movies. but i would defend the marvel cinematic universe and say it is based upon a really interesting, really threaded narrative, that is -- people should really invest in. >> how very cavalier of you. who is wearing a cape underneath his suit. thank you guys all for your time

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in an urgent response new york governor andrew cuomo has ordered emergency measure and a brand-new multi-agency task force. governor cuomo announced yesterday that salon by salon investigations will begin immediately in an effort to combat the wage and health hazards faced by workers in new york's nail salon industry. it stems from "the new york times's" unvarnished, a pro-part series examining the exploitation of manicurists in the new york city area. the investigation uncovered a litany of abuses. workers paid as little as $1.50 per day, some getting no pay at all for weeks or for months. hidden customs like the $100 to $200s each manicurists hand over for a training fee. and exposure to chemicals known to cause cancer abnormal fetal development and even miscarriages. joining me now is director of the new york immigration

coalition, steven choi. thanks for joining me. >> thank you. >> i know that almost all of these workers are immigrants some of them here illegally. a lot happens to illegal immigrants that society doesn't pay attention to or know about. but given the scale of this given the fact that these are established businesses that almost every woman i have talked to in new york city has a story to tell about their nail salon. how does something like this go on for this long without anybody knowing about it? >> i think the very fact that you're talking about immigrant workers who often are not limited and proficient, who are not able to break out in the enclave economy, i think, to be honest with you, this is a pattern that we've seen in other industries as well. whether you're talking about farm workers, whether you're talking about restaurant workers, so it really is a shame. i think the fact that "the new york times" article was able to place this kind of spotlight on this, and the fact that the governor acted so fast to be able to assemble this multi-disciplinary force, i think these are real good steps in the right direction. >> i guess when you look at the

numbers, there are 56 labor department investigators in new york city. 18 of them speak spanish. eight speak chinese. two speak korean. the lion's share of these businesses are owned by koreans and a lot of chinese and korean workers are part of this victimization. there are certainly some who are spanish, or of hispanic origin. is that enough resources to tackle a problem that involves thousands of outlets? >> i think you hit the nail right on the head. the real question -- and i want to make sure that the governor gets his credit in assembling this task force. but at the end of the day are there going to be enough people to go to all these nail saloons, to be able to see, are there health and safety violations? that is the central question. i think that's something that we're going to have to see how this task force pans out. >> the other piece of this that seems to separate it from other scandals is it's almost an ethnic caste system that's been

established in some of these places. you have other immigrants exploiting other immigrants, right? which is not the sort of dichotomy that we're used to seeing. and the sort of very open transparent stereotyping and exploitive behavior from certain ethnic groups upon other ethnic groups. i guess i wonder how unusual is that and how do you begin to unwind that? >> i would actually push back against this. the fact of the matter is a lot of the owners of nail salons are people who work in those nail salons 20 30 years ago, and gradually made their way up. i think the fact is that now koreans are the owners. but to be able to characterize this in sort of this racial division frame, i think it's a little bit difficult. >> do you think that was a fault of the "new york times" piece? it certainly does suggest that. >> i think that it is a fault. and i would say that as an attorney who has represented nail salon workers i represented a korean a chinese,

and a vietnamese nail salon worker in a trial of unpaid wages, i think there is a bit of ethnic shall i say i think that there's a little bit of this factor that says a lot of folks are comfortable with the folks that they understand and that they can speak with and they are culturally confident with. would i say that this is a strict caste system? i don't think so. i think that the underlying issue is the fact that you have workers that often are exploited. i think it's going to be absolutely critical to make sure there are resources to deal with that, and i think it also does have to be a large community outreach and education campaign for the owners as well to say look there are some bad apples out there and we will come and get you, but we will also make sure that as we are extending a hand to exact some punishment we are also extending a helping hand for those folks who want to get right with the law. so i would push back a little bit against the racial framing. >> the "times" piece is being

translated into korean and chinese and spanish. awareness seems to be the first part of this. letting the victims or workers know that they are being exploited and then giving them a path to take their grievances public and get the help that they need. >> that's so critical. so many of these workers are indeed exploited because they don't know their rights or they feel intimidated and they can't step forward. i think outreach, really targeting the workers, targeting people who are victims, and then being able to say look we're also getting you the employers the information that's critical. >> that starts also with customers who go to the nail salons. thanks so much for your time and thoughts. we'll have more after the break. i don't want to think about the alternative. i don't even know how to answer that. i mean, no one knows how long their money is going to last. i try not to worry but you worry. what happens when your paychecks stop? because everyone has retirement questions. ameriprise created the exclusive confident retirement approach. to get the real answers you need. start building your confident retirement today. ♪ ♪

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