>> breaking news overseas there has been another earthquake in

nepal this morning. this one measuring 7.3 in magnitude. the red cross reports at least two people dead so far and a lot of new injuries with expectations that a number of casualties will rise. there have been at least seven earthquakes in the area already today and it all comes on the heels of that devastating earthquake that has left more than 8,000 people dead. let's bring in richard engel live from istanbul. he was just in the town in nepal where today's earthquake happened. richard. good morning. we just returned from nepal yesterday. and the initial earthquake that killed those thousands of people was not very far from kathmandu. this second earthquake that happened today, the second really big one, 7.3, happened not far from the town of number cha bazaar in the foothills heading toward mt. everest, an

area womenell-known to climbers. the death toll very likely to go up. so far there have been at least four people killed but it's not expected to be anything like the earl quake two weeks ago gowhich was centered relatively near to cat than due. in the it the if villages. they are extremely hard to access. so i don't expect any new pictures coming out there have anytime soon. but it is a remote area houses made of stones. hadn't guides yak herders very difficult place in you want to launch a rescue race. >> beyond devastating. thank you. we'll have constant updates

throughout the show. another earthquake 7.3 magnitude. joe, willie and i are here along with mike barnicle steve rattner in washington white house correspondent for the associated press julie pace joining us. we'll get back to foreign news about you first, willie i'm going to let you take the top story. we have some great headlines, of course. but i'm surprised actually. i thought -- i don't even though how to say anything that isn't a metaphor. so tom brady has some trouble on his hands. >> major punishment handed down yesterday. bigger than a lot of people thought it would be for tom brady. suspended four games. first four games of the 2015 season without pay. the team itself also fined a million dollars and docked two draft picks including their first rounder next year. the fine hatchesmatches 9 the largest the league has ever handed out.

they wrote there is substantial and credible evidence to conclude you were at least generally aware of the, as of the patriots' employees involved in the deflation of the football. it clearly constitutes behavior to the ib telling getity of the game. brady's agent says he will appeal. adding i'm confident the wells report will be exposed as an incredibly frail exercise in fact finding and logic. this comes in addition to joe, the statement from bob kraft, the patriots owner, also blasting this decision from the nfl and saying tom brady has our full support. >> yeah i don't understand this willie. you look again and you mentioned it briefly, just have a ordinarily tough sentence. it's actually two more games than ray rice initially got for punching his wife in the face. it's more than -- actually it's the same amount i guess for

athletes that abuse drugs, that juice themselves, more than using illegal drugs where somebody doesn't juice themselves. all this over the psi of footballs. i'll admit, i just don't get this. i don't understand why the nfl front office can't ever seem to get it right. >> i agree with you, joe. i do. you can't cheat. he shouldn't have deflated the footballs. there should be some kind of punishment. but a quarter of the season and largest fine in the history of the league. this will amounts to -- >> i get it. the infraction is no big deal. every team every quarterback does it. the reaction was huge. it was fused with arrogance by repeat offenders, the spygate doesn't three or four years ago. it was handled very poorly by the patriots. the way out was to say, look, i

like don't even know the football. i don't know what they did when they took the footballs. >> ultimate arrogance was that brady couldn't cooperate with the investigation. >> he did. >> i thought he wouldn't turnover his phone. >> would you turnover your text messages? seriously. >> that's ridiculous. steve rattner, that's ridiculous that the nfl first of all tells you turnover your telephone, we want to see all everof your text all your e-mail, we want to see everything that you've sent? nobody would do that. and secondly, their standard is the most offensive thing to me. quote, more probably than not. you put an asterisk by one of the best quarterbacks in the nfl history on that low standard, brother more probably than not, kick him out for four games for a more probably than not standard? you take away draft picks from a football team for a more

probably than not standard? all because he's not going to turn over his -- do you mind if we read your phone right now steve, can we read your phone? >> not only that joe -- >> nobody has that right. >> not only that but the nfl -- >> wait a minute. he wants to -- joe, first of all, i agree with you about the more probably than not, as a matter of fact. it's a very low standard. puts somebody in equivalent in skral in the jail in the football business. the reason it was more probably than not because they didn't have the evidence. if you end up in court, whether civil or criminal and somebody subpoenas your phone to find out whether you did it you have to turn it over. >> this isn't a criminal investigation. >> this isn't court. >> with regard to your text messages, mine mika's whoever. the nfl told tom brady he would be given extraordinary safe guards to protect unrelated personal info. this in a day and age when everything ends up on google everything ends up in the papers. i mean stop it.

just stop it. >> again willie geist, again over the psi of footballs. had absolutely no impact on the game. when he was -- when they made him play with the regular footballs, they beat the colts 28-0. he did great in the super bowl. it had no practical impact and they're doing a fishing expedition on all of his info. and the standard is more probably than not. that just doesn't fly. >> the nfl said troy vincent of the committee wrote a letter and said yesterday that there is evidence to suggest that this was going on before the colts game and before this season. well let's see it. if that's true that's a major problem. but everything in this report has been kind of wishy-washy and vague. and now fair or not, tom brady's legacy is tainted. people say she be in the she beould

he be in the hall of fame. you know people will say that. >> we foe what joe thinks. what do you think they should. >> i think they should have suspended him, but not for four games. >> one of the games he's missing is the buffalo bills. >> that's true. and i come at this from the per spec tifr perspective of a bills fan. but it does feel -- painful to say this but this does feel like the mfl isnfl is responding to the criticism that they have had of their punishments in the ray rice incidents and earlier incidents. and it shows that the nfl doesn't have a handle on this. there is no way someone should be punished with a greater degree of difficulty or greater punishment for underinflating footballs than for beating up their girlfriend. it just doesn't make sense i think to a lot of fans.

>> well, the integrity of the game would be the nfl's main focus owe an a lot of levels. and mike barnicle they were arrow gants, they seemed to smile through this entire process. >> patriots handled it poorly tom brady handled it poorly. but the national football league, they walk away as if they're a nuclear power talking about protecting the shield. the integrity of the game? then let's have a drug policy that truly works. the integrity game? what about the official walt anderson who had the ball this is his room and let the balls leave his room. what about that? >> again, tom brady should not have done this. patriots should not have done it. it is cheating. it gives them an edge. but it's not on the same level as the other things you get a four game suspension for. like if a guy was stealing signs from second base in major league baseball, would you say that guy shouldn't be in the hall of fame scuffing baseballs?

>> of course not. >> so are we talking two games to four game this is your mind? >> maybe suspend him for a game. fine him. ir i wouldn't even have done two games. >> we'll move on to real news although this i think -- it's a talker i have to say.mazeing to -- >> what would you have done mika? >> i would have shut the whole thing down but that's a different story. >> cancel the super bowl. >> just we're done. any excuse. let's move on. we have a lot of foreign policy to get to. some big developments here. saudi arabia's foreign minister is dismissing reports that king salman is snubbing president obama's summit of arab leaders by not attending this week's meeting at camp david. the white house has said that he would meet with obama for one-on-one talks to reassure gulf states about a possible nuclear deal with iran until the king abruptly withdrew.

the foreign minister says reports were off base after a round of critical stories yesterday, king salman called president obama to express his regret. they discussed the summit's agenda and iran's nuclear program as well as the upcoming cease tirefire in yemen. a total of six arab states were invited, but top leaders of bahrain and united arab emirates will also be not the attending. >> the purpose of the meeting hof how to deepen our cooperation having the crown prince and deputy crown prince both of whom have leadership responsibilities when it comes to providing for the security of saudi arabia gives us confidence that we'll be able to have a robust discussion at camp david, but also that we'll be able to follow through on the commitments that are made in the context of the meeting.

>> joe. >> mika there are excuses for every one of these countries that wouldn't be showing up but you look at the countries that are turning down an invitation to spend one-on-one time with the president of the united states alone at camp david, talking about the most important security issue certainly that they faced in a very long time. and you're going to have skeptical headlines and you're going to have skeptical editorials like you have on the editor kralial page of the "wall street journal". that said, saudi arabia very clearly came out like we first reported on "morning joe," t came out yesterday morning and said exactly what we said they were going to say, that there was no snub. and i suppose at this point you just take the countries that aren't showing up at their word. >> at this point. we'll see where the governments go. obviously the deal is something we're watching.

>> i think it's half a snub. they are sending their crown prince's second or third in command. they're clearly trying to send a message that they are not necessarily in our pocket and the relationship is somewhat strained. >> don't you think, steve, though that half a message that they send, it's largely because the earth, literally the earth is shifting beneath them? we are no longer reliant on saudi arabia for oil as much as we were. they are surrounded by the threat of iran which they regard us as not doing what we should do by them. they have the arab unrest around them the throne is threatened. it's more on them than it is on us. >> all that is true but i think at the heart of this is the fact that they are single mindedly focused on stability of their regimes and everything going on around them they view us insufficiently tough in terms of

gets to assad, so on, so forth. >> joe. >> there also is julie pace one thing the white house has to worry about, with so much unrest inside and outside their borders, they have to worry about a new leader going to the united states and being seen as you come cowtowing to barack obama. >> there are so many domestic politics in place. we talk about the gcc as a corrective of six countries, but there are differences within those six countries. one of the big asks from a country like the uae was for a formal defense treaty. in other countries, that would be deeply unpopular to have a formal military ally answer with the united states. it really speaks to the differences in how we have to look at these countries as

individuals. and with the saudis in particular yes, the ground is really shaky below them but we also have to be realistic that they don't have many other options beyond the united states if they're looking for an international benefactor. we still have as one analyst i talked to yesterday said we still are the only game in town for them. >> and a before we go to break, secretary of state john russia has just landed in russia in anticipation of a meeting with putin. american officials say the discussion will center on the conflict in syria. kerry and putin met on the subject two year ago resulting in an international conference on the war which failed to fin western leaders boycotted moscow's anniversary celebration of the end o >> i think there are two things that we have to watch for here. one on syria is there something happening behind the scenes that makes the u.s. feel like it's

worth giving up peace process with syria is chance, is there a he'll list tick realistic possibility that assad would come to the table. and this happens in the lead up to a g-7 meeting in europe next month. russia was kicked out of the g-8. and there was a lot of talk about how the u.s. and europe needed to isolate russia. is this a sign that that isolation is easing a bit. >> jewel iuliejulie, thank you. still ahead, bob costas joins us on set with more on the suspension of tom brady. plus david axelrod has better luck picking presidents than prime minister. he weighs in on the recent british elections. and later, leave to netflix to cast martin sheen in a role like we've never seen before. the golden globe winner joins us on set to preview his new comedy. my school reunion. i don't know. who wants to play in idaho?

gotta get milwaukee up to speed. we win in flint, we take the lead. we'll close the deal if we just show... when it's go, go to the new choicehotels.com. the site with the right room, rewards and savings up to 20% when you book direct. choicehotels.com before earning enough cash back from bank of america to buy a new gym bag. before earning 1% cash back everywhere, every time and 2% back at the grocery store. even before he got 3% back on gas. kenny used his bankamericard cash rewards credit card to join the wednesday night league. because he loves to play hoops. not jump through them. that's the excitement of rewarding connections. apply online or at a bank of america near you. the volkswagen golf was just named motor trend's 2015 car of the year. so was the 100% electric e-golf. and the 45 highway mpg tdi clean diesel.

and last but not least the high performance gti. looks like we're gonna need a bigger podium. the volkswagen golf family. motor trend's 2015 "cars" of the year. with xfinity from comcast you can manage your account anytime, anywhere on any device. just sign into my account to pay bills manage service appointments and find answers to your questions. you can even check your connection status on your phone. now it's easier than ever to manage your account. get started at xfinity.com/myaccount

21 past the hour.

time now to take a look at the morning papers. wall street journal, number of deaths caused by general motors defective i go nick switches reached a grim milestone money. the fund administrators say more than 4300 claims for deaths and injuries have been filed. gm set up the fund last year after an internal investigation found the automaker had known big nation problems for years, but failed to fix them. let's go to the "new york times". obama administration has given shell conditional approval to begin drilling for oil and gas in the arctic. that move comes four months after the administration opened up a portion of the atlantic coast for new offshore drilling. shell's drilling plan proposes up to six wells in an area about 70 miles off the northwest coast of alaska. and officials insist they have taken measures to ensure the

newark tick drilling would be carefully regulated. "washington post," a new book offers a glimpse into the mind of tesla ceo elon musk. >> this is not good. not good. >> i think that it goes will in the category of things that are not okay to say.will in the category of things that are not okay to say. one unnamed employee said musk scolded him for skipping a work event to be present for the birth of his child. in an e-mail musk reportedly wrote, quote, that is no excuse. i'm extremely disappointed. you need to figure out where your priorities are. we're quhankingchanging the world and changing history and you either commit or you don't. >> wow. >> one tesla's earliest employees recalled the ceo's reaction when an employee complained they were working too much. musk replied, quote, tell those people they will get to see their families a lot when we go

bankrupt. >> all right mr. sunshine. willie geist, mr. sunshine must be a wonderful guy to work for. >> yeah. >> yeah, there is an intensity there certainly. >> maybe just a little focused. >> i guess that's what we'll call it. let's go to obviously a corporation that is family friendly and does everything absolutely right because their tour of italys taste so darn good. associated press reporting that the olive garden has launched a new plan to improve their sales. they don't need a new plan if me. bread stick sandwiches. i've prayed for this when i was young at bible camp. >> seriously, is that a meal? >> starting june 1st, stay with me here the italian restaurant chain will launch meatball and chicken parmesan subs sandwiched

between their bread sticks. >> bread sticks are the best. >> sandwiches will feature bread sticks shorter and wider than usual. >> can we see the picture again? >> it looked gross. >> well, gross is -- if da vinci vinci -- >> and got part is you start with a basket of bread sticks and then you have the bread stick sandwich. you can double down. >> i know what i'm having for breakfast every day for the next month. >> delightful. >> mika, what's coming up next? will. >> in the wake of unrest in baltimore, a search for the way forward. joy reid is standing by to explain how pope francis is inspiring a new way to kroefrovercome poverty. >> and grow your value, mika, your book hits the shelves today. buts as you all may know this movement is well under way. i'll talk to mika about it. it will be pretty exciting. keep it right here on "morning joe".

when broker chris hill stays at laquinta he fires up the free wifi with a network that's now up to 5 times faster than before! so he can rapidly prepare his presentation. and when he perfects his pitch, do you know what chris can do? and that is my recommendation. let's see if he's ready. he can swim with the sharks! he's ready. la quinta inns & suites take care of you, so you can take care of business. book your next stay at lq.com! la quinta!

we need snacks in here. do you have any? pretzels, granola bars energy bars, trail mix... nuts? cashews, pistachios, pecans, walnuts, almonds... cost a lot? peanuts. [laughs] maybe not your best. no... make on-budget happen. make break-time happen. staples. make more happen. the network that monitors her health. the secure cloud services that store her genetic data the servers and software on a mission to find the perfect match. and the mom who gets to hear her daughter's heart beat once again. we're helping organizations transform the way they work so they can transform the lives of the people they serve.

28 past the hour. today president obama will help kick off a summit in the nation's capital on overcoming poverty. the event is bringing together faith leaders and policymakers in hopes of finding solutions. it's being held at georgetown university and that's where we

find national correspondent joy reid. joy, the summit is happening in large part because of pope francis. explain. >> reporter: yeah, good morning, mika. and indeed pope francis has had a great deal of influence on president obama according to those who know and have studied him. pope francis' message focused on helping the spoor very central to the message that we're starting to hear president obama roll into his economic policies and his policies as president. and that we expect to hear when he arrives at the summit behind me at georgetown university today. and this is an unprecedented summit, bringing together evangelical and catholic leaders from all around the country who are coming together to discuss the role that relidge i don't know should play in trying to help those who are in poverty and some of what a lot of religious leaders say have been the deficit in what leaders should be doing. so the professor will be here with a liberal professor from harvard, university and as well

as a conservative leader from the american enterprise institute. yesterday we spoke with some of the part pantsicipants about the role religion should say in stemming poverty. what if anything did baltimore tell us about poverty? does baltimore's poverty represent a national failure or failure of individuals and what if anything can or should religious as opposed to government institutions do about it? e.j. dionne says it's a question president obama has grappled with throughout his career. >> i think it's part of who he is actually because he is a guy who did work his way up. and yet all through that period he was basically a progressive and saying there is racism there is economic in-justice. >> we both want the end of poverty. >> reporter: arthur brooks says left and right have more opportunities for agreement than either side often acknowledges

in the typical left/right debate. >> every american has a sentiment that it's a scandal. we still just have people not just in poverty, but who lack opportunity, who lack the ability to earn their own success. that's an affront to our kig nitty. the president and i have that in common because the president has that in common with all those in good conscience. >> reporter: and the question can be turned back on religious institutions themselves. >> now if you don't fix yourselves up and lift yourself up by your boot strap, you deserve to be poor. and then we get the god to co-sign the bigotry. soo in that sense, we've fallen off, but we have to resuscitate an attention to poor people and what we as the church must do. >> reporter: but in the end, solutions to american poverty must go from pulpit to policy. >> the political debate is spilled over into people's theology. and so i think the fight is not over should we care about the

poor. the fight is over how much of a role does government have in lifting up the poor. >> joy, thank you very much. joe, that conversation taking place at grnlg towneorgetown today revolves around some of the issues we've seen around the country. >> it really has. i do want to say, though i've noticed in the evangelical church for the past 15 years, 10 to 15 years, a renewed emphasis on what i call matthew 25 christians. especially younger evangelicals who obsess over the poor, who obsess -- back in 2000 it was aids in africa. who now obsess over poverty. we're the first on the ground ground when the government wasn't in new orleans. i saw one group after another when i was down there every day in mississippi and louisiana. so there is a renewed emphasis. there was a quote in there that i don't know what church one

person was going to saying there is a boot straps philosophy being preached because that's not what the pope preaches certainly not what i'm hearing in any evangelical church over the past gekdecade. but hikemike barnicle, we've actually started to have a real conversation. i've seen it from conservatives and liberals that are trying to come together. fascinating article in the "new york times". and then ezra klein linked to poverty. any poverty programs that lyndon johnson started in '65 actually have been successful in reducing rates of poverty. and ross said you just look at the numbers. and there is no doubt that's the reality. but those same anti-poverty

programs have filled miserably in lifting the truly disadvantaged system up to a position where they can move towards the middle class. so liberals are right to say that any poverty programs have reduced poverty and conservatives are right to say that these same programs may help foster a permanent middle class. and from that starting point the two can come together and learn what's worked and improve on what hasn't. proven that we can indeed reduce poverty. the trick is, and al you havell you have to do is walk away any major city, the trick is to increase access to opportunity. it comes through enhanced education, relocating -- state after state after state, south

carolina just dwrabtsgranted tax relief to volvo to build a brand new plant. they will employ up to 1,000 people. the trick is it will be outside the city. give them the tax break, but to put their plants whether an automobile plant or building new batteries, whatever, in an innercity and thus give you the opportunity to go to work close by where you live. opportunity is the key here. we can reduce poverty but we have to innocent opportunity. >> and gene robinson talked about how marian barry put a building right in the middle part of d.c. where it wasdy lap pay theed. growth grew up around it. and now the verizon center in another area that had some trouble. and washington, d.c. is unrecognizable from what it was when i was there from 1994 to 2001. change can be made.

but it's not going to come just from a governmental program. and it also won't come from people saying let's just cut taxes and grow the economy, make people pull themselves up by their boot straps. that doesn't work when you have no boot straps to start with. >> and i would go back to something mike touched on which is schools. we have to do better with public education. there are a lot of people working very hard in this problem, but if you don't graduate high school you're much less likely to get a job, more likely to go to prison. we have to fix our schools and we'll help a lot more kids. jeb bush is catching flack if for an answer he gave on fox news. >> on the subject of iraq, very controversial, know wlaging what we know now, would you have authorized the invasion? >> i would. and so would have hillary

clinton and almost everybody that was confronted with the intelligence. >> this morning laura ingraham saying you can't still think that going into iraq now as a sane human being was the right thing to do. if you do there has to be something wrong with you. end quote from laura there. and byron york writing if bush sticks to his guns it will represent a step backward for the republican party. we're calling mitt romney's 2012 stance saying he would not have invaded. joe, is this a problem for jeb? >> i'm actually confused. and i'm confused because the question was asked knowing what you know now would you have still authorized the invasion. well, i mean everybody would say no. but jeb goes back in his answer to what people knew at the time. which is the same argument i make and i've made it in a book and i've got quotes from the "new york times" and i've got quotes from the "washington post" and i've got quotes from every liberal that called george

bush a warmonger. that from 2000 2001 2002, they were all talking about saddam's weapons of mass destruction. so i think there is a real ambiguity here. and i think maybe jeb didn't hear megan's question correctly. i'm certainly not apologizing for this guy. if he does claire guyrify and say he'd go into iraq know knowing what he knows in 2015 instead of all we were allowed to thoughknow in 2003 then that's a problem. but he went back and -- >> there a political angel here. he was focused on saying i between -- i would have done what everyone else did including my potential opponent. he was so focused on getting that out, he ignored the question. >> he didn't answer the question. he answered the question he wanted to be asked.

if we didn't know what we knew now, what would you have done. and he'll just get asked the question again off yuszbviously and get pinned down. >> seriously, have we heard anybody say -- has his brother even said knowing what he knows in 2015 he'd still go into iraq? i've never heard anybody say that. >> it would be surprising if that's what he intended, but we should follow up and find out. megan kelly also pushed bush on how he would distinguish himself from hillary clinton without drawing comparisons to his own family dynasty. >> you cannot press one of her biggest down sides namely that the clintons are history, her capped daes candidacy feels old and that the country need as fresh start. >> i haven't been this washington offer the last -- ever. i'm not part of washington.

>> joe. >> no but he is part of a family that if he gets elected -- i may end up voting for the guy, but if he gets elected, you'll have a bush 41 a bush 43 and bush 45. >> and can i just push back on that answer? >> first of all let me finish. that's it is disturbing to anybody, even barbara bush a year and a halving a go. so that's a serious problem.is disturbing to anybody, even barbara bush a year and a halving a go. so that's a serious problem. i don't care whether it's bush or clinton, they will have to work to get answerround it. >> i do think the time not from washington, i'm a down home guy, is so -- pull up the "new york times" piece or might have been the "washington post" on all the way that's used his family connections and not in a bad way. i just mean to help push people in jobs or get people together

or make acquaintances or generate meetings. there are letters he wrote. he knows washington. he's used washington to his advantage. and he's a part of washington. can we all agree? is there any concern that he might not know the ways of washington? i would think he'd want to make that a plus and for the pretend to be the down home mayberry i don't really know that place. >> nobody wants to say they're a part of washington. you can't win an election saying you're part of washington. up next the white house isn't calling it a snub but just about everyone else is. former ambassador nick burns reacting to the saudi king pulling out from the summit hosted by president obama. hey america, still not sure whether to stay or go to your people? ♪ well this summer, stay with choice hotels twice and get a $50 gift card you can use for just about anything. go you always have a choice. book now at choicehotels.com

doers. they don't worry if something's possible. they just do it. at sears optical, we're committed to bringing them eyewear that works as hard as they do. right now, save up to $200 on eyeglasses. quality eyewear for doers. sears optical if you struggle with type 2 diabetes you're certainly not alone. fortunately, many have found a different kind of medicine that lowers blood sugar. imagine what it would be like to love your numbers. discover once-daily invokana®. it's the #1 prescribed in the newest class of medicines that work with the kidneys to lower a1c. invokana® is used along with diet and exercise to significantly lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. it's a once-daily pill that works around the clock. here's how: the kidneys allow sugar to be absorbed back into the body. invokana® reduces the amount of sugar allowed back in and sends some sugar out through the process of urination. and while it's not for weight loss, it may help you lose weight.

invokana® can cause important side effects including dehydration, which may cause you to feel dizzy, faint, lightheaded, or weak especially when you stand up. other side effects may include kidney problems, genital yeast infections urinary tract infections changes in urination high potassium in the blood, or increases in cholesterol. do not take invokana® if you have severe kidney problems or are on dialysis. stop taking and call your doctor right away if you experience symptoms such as rash, swelling, or difficulty breathing or swallowing. tell your doctor about any medical conditions medications you are taking and if you have kidney or liver problems. using invokana® with a sulfonylurea or insulin may increase risk of low blood sugar. it's time.

lower your blood sugar with invokana®. imagine loving your numbers. there's only one invokana®. ask your doctor about it by name. >>who... is this?! >>hi, i am heinz new mustard. hi na na na na >>she's just jealous because you have better taste. whatever. >>hey. keep your chin up. for years, heinz ketchup has been with the wrong mustard. well, not anymore. introducing heinz new better tasting yellow mustard. mmm! joining us now at 45 past the hour american diplomat and

professor at the harvard kennedy school of government former ambassador nicholas burns. good to have you on board this morning, sir. so how would you define a snub and was the white house snubbed at camp david? >> i think you have to call it a snub. >> really? >> i do. because i think the white house had established this as a major summit. it was the rely bracecelebration of 70 years of u.s./saudi relations, but more important, it was a gathering to try to contain iran and especially king salman not coming when they were supposed to come as late as last friday it's a defeat for the white house and its foreign policy. i think you can't see it any other way. >> and they are sending some of their very top and those who are going to ascend representatives. does that not have any merit? >> it does. crown prince and deputy crown prince are significant figures. they're the people who really

run sadudi arabia on a day to day basis. but a lot of this was about symbolism, it was about the heads of government. the new king of saudi arabia who had not been to the united states to be in washington for the dinner and then to camp david for the summit meeting. i think they're not coming for two reasons. one is there's still unhappiness in the gulf about the proposed nuclear deal with iran. and secondly and i think probably more importantly right now, the iranians are on a power grab. they have become the king makers in the heart of the sunni world. in baghdad, syria, certainly in labor about a lebanon and now in yemen. so they're facing an assault of iranian power on the ground in the middle east. they want help and they wanted a defense treaty from the united states and apparently they're not going to get that. >> and joe, there is some symbolism being lost here i think of other camp david accords and meetings that involve not just the world leader this is goshs in negotiating

together but doing things together playing chess or bike, whatever else to show a unity of sorts. >> and obviously, mr. ambassador, one of the reasons the president wanted to get the six leaders together. you can think can you think of a time when four of six countries, especially small countries snubbed the president of the united states and passed on an opportunity to spend time with him at camp david? >> i certainly can't think of a time. what leader of a country passes up this opportunity? >> i think that's right. and actually two of the leaders have been ill. so you can excuse them. but bahrain and saudi leaders were slated to come. the perception that the

administration has pulled back, u.s. has pulled back from playing a central role in the middle east that we've played for 70 years. now on the merits i certainly defend president obama on the nuclear negotiations with iran. think he's going down the right road. but perception matters in international politics and the perception among the sunni he countries is that the united states is not the facing squarely the problem. they fear if the sanctions come off, iran will be wealthyier to fund the houthi insurgency and assad government and they want a push bagck by the united states and they want a big symbolic gesture that we're on their side like the carter doctrine in the declaring that the gulf was an area of vital importance to the u.s.. >> julie pace though obviously

many, many concerns in the sunni world, but at the same time saudi arabia came out and issued a very strong statement in support of the administration and explained it was not a snub. >> yeah, they want to be in lock step at least in their words with the administration at this point. mr. ambassador, two questions for you. one on the tangible outcomes of this summit we've heard talk about joint military exercises, perhaps greater coordination on ballistic missile systems. is that the most we could hope for out of this this and from the perspective of the gcc countries, if they don't get what they want out of the united states, are there other options working together or with perhaps another player for being able to bolster their defenses against a possible iranian attack? >> well, the u.s. has been for many decades the defender of these countries. so i think what ulg see at the summit is announcements on greater military exercises among us to show the iranians that we have the capacity to act in that

part of the middle east. second, some kind of knitting together or binding together of the different missile systems so that you have an integrated air defense. third, greater military technology sales by the u.s. to these countries. this is all going to be good. i don't think in answer to you second question these countries have anywhere to go. there is a big battle under way in the arab world between sunni and shia islam. you see it as a proxy war, but it's taking place in raukiraq, syria, lebanon. they want military power to push back. i happen to think this i think president obama was right not to conclude a defense treaty with them because the congress, senate would never support a nato-like defense treaty. a lot is about symbolism, posturing and perceptions. and it's unfortunate that i that the saudi king can't be there.

>> nicholas burns, thank you very much. >> thank you. coming up former cia deputy director mike morell joins the conversation. plus he's played the president for years. does martin sheen have any advice for those who really want the job? he joins us also ahead. ♪ ♪ the beautiful sound of customers making the most of their united flight. power, wi-fi and streaming entertainment. that's... seize the journey friendly.

scott: hello! nbr: scott - we're concerned. you just fed your lawn earlier this spring and now you're at it again. scott: (chuckles) indeed, a crucial late spring feeding helps defend the grass against the summer heat to come. nbr: we knew that - right guys? oh yeah! scott: feed your lawn. feed it! why do we do it? why do we spend every waking moment, thinking about people? why are we so committed to keeping

you connected? why combine performance with a conscience? why innovate for a future without accidents? why do any of it? why do all of it? because if it matters to you it's everything to us. the xc60 crossover. from volvo. lease the well equiped volvo xc60 today. visit your local volvo showroom for details. ♪ ♪ [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪ ♪ she can print amazing things right from her computer. [ whirring ] [ train whistle blows ] she makes trains that are friends with trees. ♪ ♪ my mom works at ge. ♪ ♪

coming up at the top of the hour, the naturelatest from nepal, hundreds injured after a massive new earthquake there. then the latest on deflategate. what happens next to the world chafl champions. and how the british pollsters got so wrong and david axelrod's take so far on the u.s. race. out of 42 vehicles based on 6 different criteria, why did a panel of 11 automotive experts name the volkswagen golf motor trend's 2015 car of the year? we'll give you four good reasons. the volkswagen golf. starting at $19,295, there's an award-winning golf for everyone. when a moment spontaneously turns romantic

why pause to take a pill? and why stop what you're doing to find a bathroom? cialis for daily use, is the only daily tablet approved to treat erectile dysfunction so you can be ready anytime the moment is right. plus cialis treats the frustrating urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision or any symptoms of an allergic reaction stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use. insurance coverage has expanded nationally and you may now be covered. contact your health plan for the latest information. meet the world's newest energy superpower.

surprised? in fact, america is now the world's number one natural gas producer... and we could soon become number one in oil. because hydraulic fracturing technology is safely recovering lots more oil and natural gas. supporting millions of new jobs. billions in tax revenue... and a new century of american energy security. the new energy superpower? it's red, white and blue. log on to learn more. before earning enough cash back from bank of america to buy a new gym bag. before earning 1% cash back everywhere, every time and 2% back at the grocery store. even before he got 3% back on gas. kenny used his bankamericard cash rewards credit card to join the wednesday night league. because he loves to play hoops. not jump through them. that's the excitement of rewarding connections. apply online or at a bank of america near you. scott: hello! nbr: scott - we're concerned.

you just fed your lawn earlier this spring and now you're at it again. scott: (chuckles) indeed, a crucial late spring feeding helps defend the grass against the summer heat to come. nbr: we knew that - right guys? oh yeah! scott: feed your lawn. feed it! hey america, still not sure whether to stay or go to your people? ♪ well this summer, stay with choice hotels twice and get a $50 gift card you can use for just about anything. go you always have a choice. book now at choicehotels.com there has been the another earthquake in nepal this morning

measuring 7.3 magnitude. >> but it's not the expected to have a death toll anything like the earthquake two weeks ago. >> king salman made this decision given what is going on in yemen. >> some speculating it's meant to send a message to the white house. >> the message is not received because all the feedback that we've received has been positive. >> we have seen over several weeks and months continued support from russia to the separatists. this is a disturbing trend in the wrong direction. >> despite tension over ukraine, the u.s. secretary of state is headed to russia to meet with putin. >> why are you meeting now? he keeps saying it makes sense, but to me nothing's changed. >> because you can't deal with diplomatic issues if you don't deal with diplomacy. >> tom brady suspended for four games. >> he would return against against the very team that

started the whole thing. >> quarter of the season. not the fair at all. it's the top of the hour and we have breaking news overseas. there has been another earthquake in nepal this morning. this one measuring 7.3 in magnitude. 30 people reported dead so far, about 1,000 injured. there have been at least seven earthquakes in the area already today. it interrupted parliament where a lawmaker was speaking and caused panic there. it all comes in the wake of that devastating earthquake that has left more than 8,000 people dead in nepal. let's go straight to chief foreign correspondent richard engel live from istanbul. he was just in the town in nepal where today's quake happened. richard. >> reporter: good morning. first what happened in kathmandu, people were very nervous, they went into a panic when they felt the buildings begin to shake. they thought it would be yet another devastating earth quake like the one two weeks ago that

killed 8,000 people. in the streets of kathmandu people were running out of buildings, running for open spaces, being carried out of hospitals even. but this time the epicenter wasn't near kathmandu it was up in the high mountains not far from mt. everest, near a town called numberamche bazaar. it is an area where people where know quite well. it is a small stoneville allege, village, one of many sherpa villages where they stop and resupply and continue to every restest base camp. no road just a few small scattered stone villages. yak herders, people also involved in the mountaineering industry. therefore the death toll is expected to rise, but for thenot expected to be in the thousands

or many thousands like the earthquake not far from kathmandu. still, it is a difficult if not impossible region to carry out a rescue region because it is so remote and at such high altitude and there frankly aren't any roads or medical facilities in the area. >> and also because it was so severely damaged. 7.3 magnitude quake hitting again in nepal. richard engel, thank you very much. as we begin this hour joining joe, willie barnicle and me we have joining the conversation nbc sports mike florio founder of the sports blog pro football talk.com. and in chicago, director of the university of chicago's institute of politics and msnbc contribute tore david axelrod. we'll start with deflategate.tore, david axelrod. we'll start with deflategate. >> tom brady suspended for the

first four games without pay and patriots fined $1 million and docked two draft picks. this fine matches the largest the league has ever handed out. yesterday the nfl's executive vice president troy vincent wrote this quote, there is substantial and credible evidence to conclude you were at least generally aware of the actions of the patriots employees involved in the deflation of the footballs. your actions are set forth in the report clearly constitute conduct detrimental to the in-tegtegrity of and public confidence in the brady's agent accused of league of a history of poor dislynn area choices adding this quote, i'm very confident the wells report will be exposed as an incredibly frail exercise in fact finding and logic. mike, good to have you with us this morning. let's take the patriots position on this. a lot of smoke, no fire in the report. a lot of circumstantial evidence. nothing directly tying tom brady.

in fact the team was excused from this. the ownership, bob kraft, head coach, bill belichick, even the equipment manager found not guilty of any participation. how does the nfl defend this massive punishment? >> circumstantial evidence isn't bad evidence, but it still has to be good evidence if we're requesting to deal with circumstantial evidence. here patriots would say you have circumstantial evidence of what. where is the evidence that there was tampering with the footballs on january 18 against the colts. and that's where the science gets a little bit fish which i for the nfl. because there were two pressure gauges used that day that had a spread of up to 0.45 pounds per square inch. and you're talking about not many differences in the footballs as it relates to what the weather would have predicted that day. so i think the patriots look at this and say there is no smoking gun, no clear evidence. and everything else is just conjecture. maybe it's evidence of things that shouldn't have happened in the past but no evidence that on january 18 this actually happened. and that's where i think a lot

of the focus will come. >> so troy vincent's phrase in the letter to the patriots at least generally aware of. i'm going to assume based on limited knowledge ever pro sports, pro football that you could write that letter to almost anytime and almost any quarterback, that you're at least generally aware of whatever they do with the footballs prior to a game. so my question to you is how does such a minor infraction explode into this? what happened here? >> i think what happened was when this occurred and when they were testing the footballs at halftime of that playoff game and they saw the numbers that were below 12.5 i don't think they understood at the time that the atmospheric numbers would cause those numbers to drop. and somebody decide this had was a big deal. even though chain of custody, the inflation protocols, they weren't laboratory quality before then, somebody decided this was a big deal and they decided they were going on to push this. and i think the text messages gave real life to this investigation. without those text messages

between john jastremski and jim mcnally, i don't think there is enough evidence to conclude anything. but interpret them through this context, they assumed that there was something that went on that shouldn't have gone on. and i agree with you, there surely are plenty of footballs no who want the footballs a certain way. procedures in place allow that to happen. and ultimately isn't that what the nfl wants, quarterbacks to able be able to throw the footballs. >> david axelrod, you have your own problems with the chicago bears. >> we need the whole team to be inflated. >> what do you make of all this and especially of the punishment handed out yesterday? >> i have to be the skunk at the garden party here. i don't think you can have it both ways. you can't say, well, it was atmospheric conditions and quarterbacks ought to be able to you know, mess with the balls and other equipment to their -- either he knew or he didn't know.

he said he didn't know. there is apparently at least some evidence that suggests that he did know. and that there was in fact some effort to mess with these balls. and my feeling is you're a hero to a lot of kids. the sport is held up on a pedestal. and if the biggest name in sports is involved in this and you don't take a stern action, you're sending a signal to a lot of people that you're winking and in ordernodding and it doesn't matter the size of the infraction. he wasn't honest about it. and i think those two things warranted the kind of penalty that he got the. >> fair or not as this penalty may be is this nowthis is now an asterisks next to his name. he still has the right to appeal. but what does it do to his leg gas city? >> if you're a patriots fan, you find a way to explain your way around it.>> if you're a patriots fan, you find a way to explain your way around it. if you don't like the patriot you say it's the worst thing

that could happen. on road games his numbers are comparable. so he wasn't able to control the psi away from home. and he still is one of the great quarterbacks of all time. and the one thing we know super bowl xlix in arizona, there is no way those footballs were below 12.5 psi and he had a great game. brought the team back from ten points down and won it. so again, it will be in the eye of the be democraticholder. at some level the nfl has to like the fact that people are talking about the nfl. even when it's not about something good, we're talking about the nfl. >> we'll see, first four games though. mike florio great to talk with you. let's get on to other news arabia's foreign minister is dismissing the reports that it was a snub to the white house. the white house has said someone would meet with obama with for one-on-one talks to reassure gulf states about a possible nuclear deal with iran until the king abruptly withdrew.

foreign minister says reports of a snub were really off base. after a round of critical stories yesterday, king sal ma'am called president obama to express his regret at not being able to travel to washington. they discussed the summit's agenda and iran's nuclear program as well as the upcoming cease fire in yemen. a total of six arab states were invited, but the top leaders of bahrain, oman and united arab emirates will also not be attending. >> for the purposes of having a meeting about how to deepen our security cooperation with our partners in saudi arabia having the crown prince and deputy crown prince both of whom have leadership responsibilities when it comes to providing for the security of saudi arabia gives us confidence that we'll be able to have a robust discussion at the camp david, but also that we'll be able to follow through on the commitments that are made in the context of the meeting. >> so joining us now to discuss

all this in washington senior foreign affairs correspondent for politico michael crowley. also with us senior white house correspondent chris jansing. and chief foreign affairs correspondent and host of andrea mitchell report andrea mitchell. and joe, of course the symbolic blow according to nick burns is there. is it more than that. >> a lot of good articles in "new york times" this morning talking about it. an dree, a i want toptdrea andrea i want to read from the "times" piece. both israel and saudi arabia are worried that achieving an agreement with iran has shaken bedrock bedrock commitments that have long underpinned the regional order. the sense of neglect by washington has caused a crisis of confidence capped by the announcement on sunday that the king would not be there. we've heard an awful lot about the health of some leaders and

the saudi leaders being pinned down by what is happening this their own countries. but this is fairly unprecedented. nick burns and i were talking about this, four of six countries not bringing their leaders to kampgcamp dwafd. are we entering a new phase in u.s./saudi relations? >> i think we'ventered it with the decision not to go against assad in syria over chemical weapons once that red line that the president himself had imposed on labor day a couple of years ago and to let that war go unanswered really by any kind of american initiative since then. so i think that was the first step. and then iran. here you have iran acting very aggressively in yemen against the saudis. saudis engaged in a shooting war there. and they believe that what nick said i heard what he said earlier that with the lifting of the sanctions, iran will have so much more disposable income for their foreign policy misadventures, if you will, from the saudi perspective, from the

perspective of those others in the region. what i think is so extraordinary here is that they confirmed to john kerry that he was coming. and then the foreign minister whom we all know from his years and years here as ambassador and before that as national security adviser to former king abdullah he was with john kerry in in paris on friday saying that the king was coming. so this snub is so in your face to not only not come to say you're coming and then not come, but to have reconfirmed at the highest levels. it's embarrassing to kerry and the white house. and i don't see any way that they can spin it. >> and yet michael crowley, in mr. hubbard's headline in the new york time despite displeasure with u.s., saudis face long fend inside city. and you goes down the piece, the fact thats, despite displeasure with u.s., saudis face long fend inside city. and you goes down the piece, the fact that u.s. fighters are still being used by the saudis in yemen.

qatar has the largest u.s. air base in the middle east. and of course bahrain is home to the navy's fifth fleet. these gulf states are so intertwined in their dependencey of the united states of america that all they can do right now is stay away from the summit. they depend on the united states for their national security, do they not? >> yes, they do. and the analogy that comes to mind for me is israel where we have the service of the sea is roiling and there is a lot of fighting fighting, but underneath, there is a strong current of cooperation there. so you can go through a whole list of things with these gulf arab states. big one of course being counterterrorism. our shared fight against islamic radicalism which is a huge priority. maybe even higher in the moment. and we are in this military coalition with them against isis.

of course there is the energy trade that we have role they played in the global economy and our role in protecting that. although america is becoming more and more oil independent. it's a one world economy which hugely depends on oil. military hardware. i could go down the list. but those fundamentals are still there even though there are a lot of surface tensions right now. >> chris jansing, the white house has said this is not a snub, but then there are high level officials from saudi arabia coming to the summit. but more broadly, how concerned is the white house about the gulf state's protest of this iran deal? >> reporter: nobody is happy about it. when they first announced this, they saids of goingit was going to be a leaders summit. when they briefed on friday they said, white house said, that king salman was going to be here. so it was such an abrupt about face. they found out on saturday morning that he wasn't going to come and then it became about talking about how the people

usually at the table who have the deep details of the kinds of issues that they're going to be talking about will not be here. so it denies them a couple of things. obviously the optics are very bad and they don't get that picture they were supposed to have both on wednesday night at the dinner here at the white house and then thursday at camp david. but there is also an issue of could they actually have accomplished something where it looks like it will be a lot more difficult now given what has happened over the last 24 hours or so. >> i want to turn to a new report about the narrative surrounding the killing of osama bin laden. two intelligence sources tell nbc news that the year before the may 2011 raid that killed the terror leader, a walk-in asset from pakistani intelligence told the cia where the 9/11 mastermind was hiding. and these two sources plus a third say that the pakistani government knew where bin laden was all along. the u.s. government has always maintained that the cia found him by tracking couriers to his

walled complex. with the official story constructed to protect the asset. nbc news has long been pursuing leads about a walk-in and about what pakistani intelligence knew. but both assertions were published this weekend by investigative reporter see moore hirsch. his story raises other questions about the white house account of the bin laden raid. the white house and other officials officials deny the story. and insist knowledge was confined for-to-a very small circle of senior u.s. officials. >> the obama white house is not the only one to observe that the story is riddled with inaccuracies and outright falsehoods. mike aremorell has said that every

sentence was wrong. >> joe, jump in. >> i was just going to say, andrea, if this weren't sy hirsch, but he has a bit of a history himself with questionable claims. >> i was just going to say, we're conflating two things here. the nbc report is not contradicting the white house version and is not in agreement with hirsch on most of the principal assertions. his main assertion is that the u.s. worked with pakistan and that the raid was a joint venture. that's absolutely not true according to everyone i've talked to and we can find nobody who backs this up. because all the people we talked to morell and panetta and all of the other top officials on and off the record at the time and afterwards certainly indicated that there was no trust with pakistan there was no way that they were going to

engage pakistan and inform pakistan. and the night of the raid we knew they belatedly did scramble their jets except that they thought it was india crossing their air space and they went in the wrong direction. so it is not true that as far as every source that i've talked to before, during and since, it is not true that the -- that this was a joints vep dhur. what nbc has reported is that there were two sources confirming that there was a walk-in asset, which is one of the things sy does say, walk-in asset to islamabad, our reporting is a year before the raid, which does that mean there wasn't also a cureourier. so there may well have been a courier. they all say there was. and that this narrative is not

contradicted by what we've reported independently. >> david axelrod, the "times" reports this morning and i think it's a great point that this would require company collusion between officials in pakistan saudi arabia, the united states all the way down to mid level bureaucrats. as you know you can't keep anything secret when you get outside of i was going to say two or three people. let me say one or two people in washington, d.c.. let alone spread across the globe. that i think is the most evidence that this appears -- this report appears to be shear fantasy. >> i wasn't in the white house at the time of the raid but i did talk to many of the players who were there at that time. and there is nothing in their

stories stories that swrifsjives with this account. there was concern about pakistan's potential actions. everything that i heard contemporaneously -- >> okay. we lost david axelrod. obviously another conspiracy. it is not only between three governments, it is now obviously infected in the media capital. but mika does strain believability to think that you go across three governments august the way down to mid level bureaucrats, along with all of the s.e.a.l.s. they can't even stop one of s.e.a.l.s from writing books and going out and making movies. which somebody would talk. this again seems to be straight out of a james bond movie instead of being out of reality. >> and just one small point. as you know, sy h he rsh is

normally published by the new yorker. and they declined to publish this because they didn't think it was credible. >> willie, all of our stories on dog racing that's where we go to publish those. actually they're fiction story, but they take us all back to a simpler time. >> yes, they do. the piece about the pakistani government or perhaps elements of it or maybe knowing bin laden has been there for years, that strikes me as more credible and something reported in 2011. >> and the fact is that a lot of us have suspected that. we don't know at what level they may have know about the raid. >> andrea mitchell thank you very much. still ahead -- >> hold on, we have david

axelrod here. is he back yet? you know i wanted to ask him about the british elections. we had teased it. and we'll get him back if only to ask him what in the world happened. >> okay. we have to wait until we have him so he can actually hear you mock him. so we're getting him back. so coming up on "morning joe," he was by president obama's sidepd bush's side on final. michael morell on what he calls the great war of our time. you owned your car for four years. you named it brad. you loved brad. and then you totaled him. you two had been through everything together. two boyfriends. three jobs. you're like "nothing can replace brad!" then liberty mutual calls. and you break into your happy dance. if you sign up for better car replacement, we'll pay for a car that's a model year newer with 15,000 fewer miles

than your old one. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance.

with xfinity from comcast you can manage your account anytime, anywhere on any device. just sign into my account to pay bills manage service appointments and find answers to your questions. you can even check your connection status on your phone. now it's easier than ever to manage your account.

get started at xfinity.com/myaccount difd, david, in 2012, you knew three months out what was going to happen in that race. looking at british elections, i was actually nothing back reading william manchester's biography on churchill and specifically going to the part where he came back from pots

town and they were so sure they were going to win, they left their luggage in berlin. but we see one shock after another. '97, blair, the scope of his victory was astounding. 1992, john major won. nobody expected that. it happened again to you a couple weeks ago. you can now put yourself in the category of winston church hill. >> yes. talk about deflating. >> yeah. why is it so hard to read the british electorate from 1945 to 2015? >> you know, i really wish i had an answer to that. some of it has to do with the information that is available and how polling is done. there are more online polling i think that is less reliable. but i think there will be a lot of academic treatises on this. i know what happened generally, which is that nationalism took over that election. scottish nationalism, smp swept

scotland, took 40 labor seats. but cameron very brilliantly i think exploited english nationalism and concerns about scotland and the concern that the smp would make an al answerlyiance with labor and that had a big impact on voters late in the campaign. but nobody caught the big move and i think that will be a thing for scholars for months and years to come. and i have no ready explanation for it. >> the night before i was having dinner with some british business leaders who actually told me that scotland was going to actually be the most important issue, that it was going to scare voters. >> yeah, that's what happened. >> let me ask you about the presidential library. big announcement today. going to be very exciting for you.

>> huge for chicago. the announcement today that the obama presidential center will come to the south side of chicago. and joe, it's a great story because here's where barack obama began as a young man, working with churches and neighborhoods that were down on their luck. michelle obama was raised on the south side of chicago. and now they're bringing this wonderful asset back to the south side of chicago that will create thousands of jobs hundreds of millions of dollars of economic activity and really lift whole neighborhoods. so it's a great story. and we're very excited here in chicago about it. >> all right. david axelrod, thank you very much. joining us thousand in thenow in the studio, michael morell out with a new book great war of our time. fight against terrorism from al qaeda to isis. great to see you. you have such a fascinating perspective. you are the only person to have been with president bush on september 11 2001 and also with president obama when osama bin

laden was killed nearly a decade later. you talk about this long scope from the day the planes flew into the buildings to his death. what did you learn? >> i think two things. one is that you have to keep the pressure on terrorist groups. and as long as you keep the pressure on them you keep thm on their back heel you have them worried about their security so they can't plot. they can't plan. as soon as you take that pressure off, they rebound and come back at you. that's lesson number one. >> so let's apply that to what we're seeing with isis. are we doing a good enough job keeping the pressure on isis? >> i think we're doing a pretty good job in iraq. we've taken back about 25% of the territory that isis took. but we haven't really done anything against them in syria. so as we're is successful in iraq, we'll push them across the border into syria. so we have a hammer in iraq no anvil in syria. >> what worries you the most? >> is that if we don't stay

focused on this and it's not only isis, it's al qaeda this yemen, it's al qaeda in somalia, it's al qaeda in north africa the khorasan group in syria. if we don't keep the pressure on and deal with the bigger issue of how do you stop the radicalization of young men and women, we'll face another 9/11 some day. >> you said if we don't stay focused on this. i'd like to know how. how we can stay focused on all of this especially when it's in this universe called the internet where that radicalization is happening. >> so one thing i talk about in the book is that we've done a fantastic job since 9/11 protecting the homeland from terrorists who already exist. we've done not a good job at all this stopping the creation of a new terrorist. and that is a very difficult thing to do. that's not something the united states can do on its own. that's something leaders of muslim countries have to do

leaders of the islamic religion and in families and schools. and that's very difficult to get your arms around. >> is isis more capable of one strategic pop against us domestically than was al qaeda in september of 2001? >> no. isis isn't there yet. what isis can do is radicalize young men and women here as we've seen in texas and possibly did a small directed attack today. they can't do a 9/11 attack. but given enough time enough safe haven in iraq and syria they will have that capability. >> so what more would you like to see the obama administration doing? what would be a strategy in syria that would work? >> the strategy the president laid out was to train and equip the moderate opposition in sear use to take on isis and then eventually take on asassad. but they're finding it difficult to find moderate opposition to do that. and the numbers weren't large enough. so you have to find some ground force. i don't know what the answer is but some ground force in syria

to be able to take on isis. >> this is a truly compelling book. what difficulty if anything did you have clearing stuff in the book? >> if anybody thinks i had it easy they weren't with me. it took the cia longer to clear it than it took me to write it. >> i believe that. >> so they took some stuff out. and some of the stuff they wanted to talk outwant ed to take out, we talked about and made changes and kept this there. but not an easy process. >> you can read an excerpt on our site. michael morell, thank you very much. good to see you again. congratulations on the book. >> thank you so much. coming up an independent report says tom brady probably cheated. the nfl says he definitely is suspended. bob costas is here onset to break down the star quarterback's big punishment.

ford is taking the ecoboost challenge all across america. here we go! check out escape and find out why ford is the brand more people buy and buy again. wow! that's a four-cylinder? i thought it was a six. i definitely feel the ecoboost in the ford escape. that's like a sports car. i just opened my trunk with my foot. i prefer, without a doubt, the escape over the cr-v. take the ecoboost challenge at your ford dealer. and for a limited-time get an escape with zero percent financing for sixty months plus seven-fifty cash if you own a ford or qualifying competitive vehicle. you know our new rope has actually passed all the tests. we're ready to start with production. ok, are you doing test markets like last time? uh, no we're going to roll out globally. ok. we'll start working on some financing options right away. thanks, joe. oh, yeah. it's a game-changer for the rock-climbing industry. this is one strong rope! huh joe? oh, yeah it's incredible! how you doing team? jeff you good? [jeff] i think i dropped my keys. [announcer] you work hard to build your company. wells fargo will work right alongside you, bringing the expertise your company needs to move forward. wells fargo. together we'll go far.

my school reunion. i don't know. who wants to play in idaho? gotta get milwaukee up to speed. we win in flint, we take the lead. we'll close the deal if we just show... when it's go, go to the new choicehotels.com. the site with the right room, rewards and savings up to 20% when you book direct. choicehotels.com

scott: hello! nbr: scott - we're concerned. you just fed your lawn earlier this spring and now you're at it again. scott: (chuckles) indeed, a crucial late spring feeding helps defend the grass against the summer heat to come. nbr: we knew that - right guys? oh yeah! scott: feed your lawn. feed it!

with xfinity from comcast you can manage your account anytime, anywhere on any device. just sign into my account to pay bills manage service appointments and find answers to your questions. you can even check your connection status on your phone. now it's easier than ever to manage your account. get started at xfinity.com/myaccount for me. you can answer right now is tom brady a cheater? >> i don't believe so. i feel like i've always played within the rules. i would never do anything to break the rules. i have no knowledge of anything. i have no knowledge of any

wrongdoing. i'm very comfortable saying that. i'm very comfortable saying that nobody did it -- as far as i know. i don't know everything. i also understand that i was in the locker room preparing for a game. i don't know what happened over the course of the process with the footballs. >> those balls were deflated. somebody had to do it. and i don't believe there is an equipment manager in the nfl that would on his own initiative deflate a ball without the starting quarterback's approval. i just didn't believe what tom brady had to say. >> that was former nfl quarterback mark burnell speaking in january. before that tom brady in the same month. let's bring in bob costas now. let's break this out if inton in to two thins things. how offensive was the offense and how harsh was the punishment. >> this is closer to a

misdemeanor misdemeanor, but there is a patriots context. they have a rap sheet as an organization. and then there is the league context which is even more important. over the last couple of year you've had bountygate with the saints with intention to injure opposing player, you've had the bullying situation in miami you've had all the domestic violence cases. you've had the child abuse case involving adrian peterson. and in every case the league's judgment and the seeming randomness of its rulings has been called into question which has placed heat on the commissioner roger goodell. so he was determined to get this one right when it came to the glamour boy quarterback of the league and the are marquee franchise fran franchise. >> but placed in a vacuum, you would not suspend tom brady four games for this offense. >> i don't think so unless you want to say someone from the cleveland browns was says ss ss was suspended for you are

four games for texting to the sidelines. and also pumping bonus noise into the stadium. but those don't hurt the teams because of the personnel involved as much as removing arguably the best quarterback in the league for four games. >> to try to compare these offenses -- >> it's crazy. >> you can't compare these offenses. number one a lot of these domestic abuse cases, these are things that happened outside off the field. and if anything the nfl didn't act quick enough strong enough whatever. that's a whole different can of worms. and if anything, they didn't do anything if retrospect. this is cheating on the field. >> right. >> this is important.nf retrospect. this is cheating on the field. >> right. >> this is important. retrospect. this is cheating on the field. >> right. >> this is important. >> you're on to something here. this has to do with the in-telling grit difference thein-teg grit in-telling grit integrity of the game. we're not comparing the morality. what tom brady did is nothing remotely compared in terms of the severity of the act itself.

but integrity of the game -- >> it's big. >> in your experience which is extensive with the national football league are there any other quarterbacks or teams that fool around with footballs? >> yes. i don't know which one but this is not unique to the patriots. >> so do you think at the end of the day that it was not so much the infraction as it was the team and the quarterback's reaction? >> smug, arrogant. >> first of all, somebody had to be caught, okay? somebody has forto be caught by the speed trap. doesn't mean others weren't speeding. they fwhot thegot caught. and there was plenty of evidence. if tom brady himself in the court of public opinion, if tom brady had said i like a football at the lowest end of what is allowable, and i let the equipment people know that in no uncertain terms, if they

overstepped their bounds then i apologize on their behalf, but i didn't ask them to do that, sorry about it, move on. now, would patriot hater, those who resent their success be on his case? yeah, but this would be -- >> this would not be a lot. joe, jump in. >> bob would this be a federal case, would we even be talking about this if it had happened in sluice st. louis or tampa bay. >> absolutely not. on the other hand if a state senator from oklahoma commits some sort of infraction guilty of tax evasion, it will get a whole lot less attention than if the president of the united states does it. if? sh guy juiced to go there hitting .250 to.275 we don't remember that as much as barry bonds juicing to pass hank aaron. so he's a big target. his team is a big target and it makes sense. >> except the difference there is obviously bonds, everything was affected by what bobds s bonds did. you can look at the numbers and

numbers don't lie. same case with brady. he did much better against the colts when he had fully inflated balls than when they had been deflated deflated. >> by the way, there is no way to talk about this subject without all of it becoming a punch line. >> just stop. just stop. stop. stop. are we done with the balls? i want to know if it's over. >> just to acknowledge joe's point, there is no comparison in severity or impact on the competition between what tom brady did and what juicers in baseball especially and other sports did. my only point was in abc to joe's question that the focus on brady and the patriots is because of who brady is and what the patriots have accomplished. are we done with it? >> are we done? >> no because there is an appeal upcoming. and every time the patriots play without him and then when he returns, which could be if the full suspension holds on a

sunday night in ironically indianapolis against the colts who blew the whistle this story ramps itself back up again. >> and by the way, mika, the big winner there obviously not only nbc when it comes back but, yes, the new york "post" headline writers. i can only hope there is not a picture of tom brady on the sidelines holding a football when the suspension is going on. >> this is really where your career has -- >> yes. >> this has to make you think. >> my career is deflated. yes. >> okay. what's next alex? martin sheen is next. my lord. >> former president? >> there he is right there. we'll talk politics with him when we come back. ideas come into this world ugly and messy. they are the natural born enemy of the way things are. yes, ideas are scary

and messy and fragile. but under the proper care, they become something beautiful. ♪ ♪ the beautiful sound of customers making the most of their united flight. power, wi-fi and streaming entertainment. that's... seize the journey friendly.

>>who... is this?! >>hi, i am heinz new mustard. hi na na na na >>she's just jealous because you have better taste. whatever. >>hey. keep your chin up. for years, heinz ketchup has been with the wrong mustard. well, not anymore. introducing heinz new better tasting yellow mustard. mmm! the volkswagen golf was just named motor trend's 2015 car of the year. so was the 100% electric e-golf. and the 45 highway mpg tdi clean diesel. and last but not least the high performance gti.

looks like we're gonna need a bigger podium. the volkswagen golf family. motor trend's 2015 "cars" of the year.

i'm leaving you. and he's leaving you. >> you're leaving me? >> yes. >> who is she? >> it's to thet not what you think. it's a he. >> excuse me? >> and it's sal. i'm in love with sal. >> oh, my god. i want to watch more. you just end it right there? that's not fair. >> after 40 years. >> that was a scene from the new netflix series which teams martin sheen and sam waterston has two men who leave their wives for each other. okay. kind of awkward. joining us now emmy and golden globe award winning being a or martin sheen. great to have you on the show. >> good to be here. >> a lot of young up and comers on this. >> great premises, great cast.

set the scene. >> that is the opening scene. >> no. >> yeah, that's the very opening. they have been married 40 years. sam and i -- well, i'm married to jane upon today and sam is married to lily tomlin. and we are law partner, sam and i. specializing in divorce. and so we get to do our own divorce. and we team up with each other. they have been in love with each other for 20 years and they finally decide to live an honest life and come out. and that's the beginning of the series. and then it gets very interesting after that. >> the cast is wildly interesting. what's the median age of the cast? >> meetdian age is 74. sam is the youngest among us. >> you whippersnappers. >> only barnicle could ask that question. >> oh, my gosh. jane fonda, we met her when we did seth meyers the other day. she's so nice. >> she's a classy dame.

i adore her. >> i tried to get her to come on the show and she says shemezays she will is joe puts tape over his mouth. like duct tape. >> i told her i would put duct tape over my mouth and then we went out and did seth meyers and i was so complimentary and she was still on all over me. martin, this is fastcinateingfascinating. and i knew two guys at the university of alabama that were like big men on campus and it actually happened to them. pretty stunning. this does happen in real life. >> yeah it's interesting that it does happen in a lot of cases. and it's a reflection i think of people trying to live an honest life. coming to it a little too late maybe. >> oh, lord. >> couldn't wait to show that shot. >> thank you.

>> sam looks a little >> he was surprised, how do you think i felt? >> that's hysterical. this looks fun. this looks fun. >> without giving it all up take us through the story as far as where it goes. >> jane and lilly are grace and frankie. i play robert and sam watterson plays sol. grace and frankie are not fond of each other and now they're forced to live together. sol and i come to live together. a great many things start to emerge, the foibles, the cracks in the characters. it's more about family than it is about anything else. and how families are endlessly forgiving and compassionate and deeply human. and despite the fact that they leave their wives, they become extremely close as a family.

they love these women in very different and very real ways. so it's about getting old and getting honest and getting free from our images of each other, even in our immediate families. >> wow. >> it's a powerful series. >> there's a lot of laughs along the way. >> here goes netflix again. >> yes, it's netflix. >> it's cool. they keep coming up with great, original programming. you have the freedom to do stuff you can't do in other places. >> the entire season of "grace and frankie" is streaming on netflix. martin sheen, always great to have you on the show. >> delighted. >> can't wait to see this. >> can i ask what can i give a message -- can i give a message from you to jane? >> joe, be polite. >> i will put duct tape on my mouth. >> he'll wear it on the air. >> on the air with s.o.s. and exclamation point at the end of it. >> may i tell her that personal message from you.

>> yes. >> you certainly can. >> thanks so much. i'll see you in hyannis port in october. >> there you go. >> looking forward to it. >> thanks so much, joe. >> bring jane back. the company that says it has billions of dollars to buy aol. that story straight ahead. why are we so committed to keeping you connected? why combine performance with a conscience? why innovate for a future without accidents? why do any of it? why do all of it? because if it matters to you it's everything to us. the xc60 crossover. from volvo. lease the well equiped volvo xc60 today. visit your local volvo showroom for details. looking for one of these?

yoplait. smooth, creamy, and craved by the whole family. we need coffee. got it right here. cups? 12 ounce, 8 ounce, recyclable... creamers? sweeteners? stirrers? filters? creamers, sweeteners stirrers, filters, k-cups... hazelnut? french vanilla? french roast? dark? light? medium? bold? extra bold. and decaf. why would you say that? why would you say that? why would you say that? no reason. make on-budget happen. make caffeinated happen. staples. make more happen.

scott: hello! nbr: scott - we're concerned. you just fed your lawn earlier this spring and now you're at it again. scott: (chuckles) indeed, a crucial late spring feeding helps defend the grass against the summer heat to come. nbr: we knew that - right guys? oh yeah! scott: feed your lawn. feed it!

telecom giant verizon communications is buying aol in

a deal valued around $4.4 billion. the acquisition gives verizon access to aol's digital advertising holdings and content which includes huffington post and the blog tech crunch. verizon said tuesday it will pay $50 per share for the company, in cash a 15% premium on aol's closing stock price on monday. joe, take it to rattner. joe? >> steve, i saw this break across the wires 45 minutes ago. i saw $4.4 billion for aol. most of us think of aol as something we used in the early 1990s. that number is so big. what's the value of aol? >> first of all, it's still an enormous portal. millions of people go there to get news, to use their e-mail. they've done interesting things in video. i agree with you, i scratch my head, too. it's a very -- it's an off the fairway deal for verizon relative to anything they've done before.

what's interesting about verizon, verizon is trying to break some new ground here and not just be a telecoms company. >> right. >> as you know at the moment one of the most interesting things with verizon is this fight they're having with espn where they're essentially trying to break the bundle and not make every single household pay $6 a month for espn and they're in litigation now over that. this is an experiment in content for them. >> all right gentlemen, thank you very much. up next if it's possible misery deepens in that palnepal. 30 dead, more than a thousand injured after a new wave of earthquakes. plus did the nfl go too far? the panel weighs in on tom brady's suspension. and winning at all cost. a new book reports tesla founder elon musk had tough words for a new dad.

sal khan: khan academy is a not-for-profit, with a mission of providing a free world-class education for anyone anywhere. if you look at a khan academy video, they can cover everything from basic arithmetic to calculus, trigonometry, finance. you can really just get what you need at your own pace. and so, bank of america came and reached out to us and said 'we are really interested in making sure that everyone really understands personal finance.' and we're like 'well, we're already doing that.' and so it was kind of a perfect match. are you so congested... it feels like that brick's on your face? try zyrtec®-d to powerfully clear your blocked nose and relieve your other allergy symptoms. so you can breathe easier all day. zyrtec®-d.

find it at the pharmacy counter. when broker chris hill stays at laquinta he fires up the free wifi with a network that's now up to 5 times faster than before! so he can rapidly prepare his presentation. and when he perfects his pitch, do you know what chris can do? and that is my recommendation. let's see if he's ready. he can swim with the sharks! he's ready. la quinta inns & suites take care of you, so you can take care of business. book your next stay at lq.com! la quinta! ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] you wouldn't ignore signs of damage in your home. are you sure you're not ignoring them in your body? even if you're treating your crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis an occasional flare may be a sign of damaging inflammation. and if you ignore the signs, the more debilitating your symptoms could become. learn more about the role damaging inflammation may be playing in your symptoms with the expert advice tool at crohnsandcolitis.com.

and then speak with your gastroenterologist. doers. they don't worry if something's possible. they just do it. at sears optical, we're committed to bringing them eyewear that works as hard as they do. right now, save up to $200 on eyeglasses. quality eyewear for doers. sears optical

it's the top of the hour. we have breaking news overseas right now. there's been another earthquake in nepal this morning, this one measuring 7.3 in magnitude. 30 people reported dead so far. about 1,000 injured. there have been at least seven earthquakes in the area already today. it interrupted parliament where a lawmaker was speaking and caused panic there. it all comes in the wake of that devastating earthquake that has left more than 8,000 people dead in nepal. let's go straight to nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel live from istanbul. he was just in the town of nepal where today's quake happened. richard? >> reporter: good morning. first what happened in katmandu people were very nervous, they

went into a panic when they felt the buildings begin to shake. they thought it was going to be yet another devastating earthquake like the one two weeks ago that killed 8,000 people. in the streets of katmandu people were running out of buildings, running for open spaces, being carried out of hospitals even. this time the epicenter wasn't near cat mankatmandu. it was up in the high mountains not far from mt. everest. it was near a town called namche bazaar. we were just in namche bazaar. it is a small, stone village, one of many sherpa villages where hikers and trekkers will stop and continue through the kumba valley as they make their way to the mt. everest base camp. a few roads, a small scattered

village, yak herders, people who are involved in the mountaineering industry. the death toll is expected to rise but not expected to be in the thousands or many thousands like the earthquake we saw not far from katmandu two weeks ago. still, it is a very difficult, if not impossible region to carry out a rescue effort because it is so remote because it is at such high altitude and because there frankly aren't roads or medical facilities in the area. >> now also because it was already so severely damaged. 7.3 magnitude quake hitting again in nepal. richard engel, thank you very much. good morning, everyone. joe, willey and i are here along with mike barnicle we have julie pace joining us from the associated press. we'll get back to foreign news. but first, willie i'll let you take the top story. we have great headlines, of course. i'm surprised, actually.

i thought he would -- i just don't even know how to say anything that isn't a metaphor. tom brady has some trouble on his hands. >> major punishment hand the down bigger than a lot of people thought it would be for tsh it be and the deflategate scandal, suspended the first four games of the 2015 season without pay. the team itself also fined $1 million and docked two draft picks, including their first rounder next year. the fine matches the largest the league has ever handed out. yesterday, the nfl's executive president wrote this in a letter to brady, quote, there are substantial and credible evidence to conclude you were at least generally aware of the actions of the patriots employees involved in the deflation of the footballs. your actions as set forth in the report clearly constitute conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in the game of professional football. brady's agent fired back said brady will appeal the suspension, accuse the league of a history of poor disciplinary choices, adding i'm very

confident the wells report will be exposed as an incredibly frail exercise in fact-finding, in lodger. this comes in addition to joe, the statement from bob kraft, the patriots owner blasting this decision from the nfl and saying tom brady has our full support. >> yes, you know i don't understand this willie. you look again, you mentioned it briefly. just extraordinarily tough, tough sentence. it's actually two more games than ray rice initially got for punching his wife in the face. it's more -- well actually it's the same amount i guess, for athletes that abuse drugs, that juice themselves, more than using illegal drugs where somebody doesn't juice themselves. all this over the psi of footballs. i'll admit, i just don't get this. i don't understand why the nfl front office can't ever seem to get it right. >> i agree with you, joe. i do. i think -- you can't cheat. he shouldn't have deflated the

footballs and there ought to be punishment. four games, a quarter of the season and the largest fine in the history of the league, this amounts to some -- >> i get it. >> i get it. >> what do you got? >> the infraction is no big deal. every team every quarterback does it. the reaction was huge. it was fused with arrogance by repeat offenders. the spygate incident three or four years ago. it was handled very poorly by the patriots. the way out of it was to say, look i like the balls 12.5. i don't know the pressure. every quarterback does the same thing. i don't know what they did when they took the footballs. >> but the ultimate arrogance was that brady wouldn't cooperate with the investigation. >> well, he did though. >> i thought he wouldn't turn over his phone. >> would you turn over your text messages? >> would you turn over yours? seriously. >> here's what the nfl -- >> i have to break in here. that's ridiculous. steve rattner, that's absolutely ridiculous that the nfl first of all tells you turn over your

telephone. we want to see all of your texts, all of your e-mails. we want to see everything that you've sent and first of all, that's outrageous. nobody would do that. and secondly there are standards are the most offensive thing to me quote, more probably than not. you put an asterisk by one of the best quarterbacks in the nfl -- in nfl history on that low standard? more probably than not, you kick him out of the nfl for four games for a more probably than not standard? you take away draft picks from a football team for a more probably than not standard? all because he's not going to turn over his -- do you mine if we read your phone right now, steve? can we read your phone? nobody has that right. >> not only that but the nfl, the nfl actually -- >> wait a minute. wait a minute. first of all, i agree with you about the more probably than not as a matter of fact. it's a very low standard in effect, it puts somebody in the equivalent of jail in the

football business. i agree with that. but part of it, the reason it was more probably than not is because they didn't have the evidence. if you end up in court, civil or criminal, and somebody subpoenas your phone to find out whether you did it you have to turn it over. >> this isn't court. >> this isn't criminal. >> this isn't court. >> with regard to your text messages, mean mika's whatever. >> sure. >> he would be given extraordinary safeguards to protect unrelated personal info this in a day and age when everything ends up on google and in the papers. i mean, stop it, just stop it. >> willie geist, over again, the -- >> deflated balls. >> the psi of footballs. had absolutely no impact on the game. when he was -- when they made him play with the regular footballs they won -- they beat the colts 28-0. he did great in the super bowl. it had absolutely no practical impact and they're doing a fishing expedition on this

guy's, all of his info. and the standard is more probably than not. that just doesn't fly. >> the nfl said in its letter troy vincent wrote a letter to tom brady and he said yesterday there is evidence that suggests this was going on before the colts game and before this season. well, let's see it. if that's true, that's a major problem everything in this wrort has been wishy washy. like it or not, tom brady's has been affected. >> what do you think they should have done. >> i think they should have suspended him for not four games. not for twice as long as they suspended ray rice. >> one of the games he's missing is against the buffalo bills, julie pace. >> that's true. i comment from a bills fan who have watched brady and the

patriots destroy my team for the last several years. it does feel it's painful for me to say this. but it does feel in some ways like the nfl is responding to not just the brady patriots incident but the criticism they've had of their punishments in the ray rice incident and earlier incidents. it shows, again, the nfl doesn't have a handle on this. there's no way someone should be punished with a greater degree of difficulty or greater punishment for underinflating footballs than for beating up their girlfriend. it just doesn't make sense to a lot of fans i think. >> the integrity of the game i would think would be the nfl's main focus on a lot of levels in terms of how they move forward with other teams as well. and mike barnicle they were arrogant. they seemed to smile through this entire process. >> the patriots handled it poorly. tom brady handled it poorly. would you please the national football league they walk around as if they're a nuclear power.

talking about protecting the shield. the integrity of the game let's have a drug policy in the national football league that truly works. the integrity of the game? what about the official, walt anderson who had the balls in his leave and let the balls leave his room. what about that? >> okay. >> tom brady should not have done this. the patriots shouldn't have done it. it is cheating. it's not fair. gives them an edge. it's not on the same level as the other things you get a four-game suspension for. if a guy was stealing signs from second base in major league baseball, would you say that guy shouldn't be in the hall of fame. >> of course not. >> scuffing baseballs -- >> spitballs. of course not. >> way over the top. >> i don't agree. >> two games, four games in your mind, is that the difference. >> suspend him for a game and fine him. >> take a draft pick. >> i don't know. he's the quarterback. right. okay. we'll move on to real news though this, i think, it's a talker, i have to say. it's been amazing.

>> what would you have done mika? >> i would have shut the whole thing down. that's a different story. >> cancel the super bowl. >> we're done, any excuse. we have a lot of foreign policy to get to big developments here. saudi arabia's foreign minister is dismissing reports that king salman is snubbing president obama's summit of arab leaders by not attending the meeting at camp david. he said he will meet with obama for one-on-one talks to reassure gulf states with a possible deal with iran. the foreign minister said the reports of a snub were quote, really off base. after a round of critical stories yesterday, king salman called president obama to express his regret at not being able to travel to washington. they discussed the summit's agenda and iran's nuclear program as well as the upcoming cease-fire in yemen. a total of six arab states were invited to discuss security. the top leaders of bahrain, and

the united arab emirates will also not be attending. >> the purposes of having a meeting about how to deepen our security cooperation with our partners in saudi arabia having the crown prince and deputy crown prince both of whom have leadership responsibilities when it comes to providing for the security of saudi arabia gives us confidence that we'll be able to have a robust discussion at camp david but also that we'll be able to follow through on the commitments that are made in the context of the meeting. >> joe? >> you know, mika there are excuses for every one of these countries that aren't going to be showing up. you look at the countries that are turning down an invitation to spend one-on-one time with the president of the united states alone at camp david. talking about the most important security issue certainly they faced in a very long time. and you're going to have skeptical headlines and you're going to have skeptical

editorials like you have on the editorial page of the"the wall street journal". that said saudi arabia the most important of these four countries that aren't going to be there, very clearly came out yesterday, like we first reported on "morning joe," they clearly came out yesterday morning after we got off the air and said exactly what we said they were going to say, that there was no snub. and i suppose at this point you need to take the countries that aren't showing up at their word. >> at this point. we'll watch what happens and see where the developments go. obviously the deal is something we're watching. you want to jump in? >> i was going to say, i think it's half a snub. they are sending their crown princes and second and third in command. it's not like they're not showing up. they're clearly trying to send a message that they are not necessarily in our pocket and the relationship is somewhat strained. >> don't you think, steve, though, that half the message they send, it's largely because the earth literally, the earth is shifting beneath them. we are no longer reliant on

saudi arabia for oil as much as we were. they are surrounded by the threat of iran which they regard us as not doing what we should do by them. they have the whole arab unrest around them. the throne is threatened at some point by a very restive population. it's more on them than it is on us. >> i think all that is true but at the heart of this is the fact they are single mindedly focused on obviously stability of their regimes and everything going on around them. they view us as insufficiently tough in terms of maintaining order in egypt so on and so forth. >> joe jump in. joe? >> there is julie pace one thing that the white house has to worry about is with so much unrest inside and outside their borders, they have to worry about a new leader going to the united states and being seen as kowtowing to barack obama and coming back with president obama

still moving forward with a deal with shiites in iran that's extraordinarily unpopular. >> so many domestic politics in play for a lot of these leaders, even we talk about the gcc and sometimes here we talk about them as a collective of six countries. there are differences within those six countries, one of the big asks from a country like the uae was for a formal defense treaty with the united states. in other countries, that would be deeply unpopular to have a formal military alliance with the united states. that's not something they're going to get anyways. it really speaks to the differences and how we have to look at these countries as individuals. with the saudis in particular yes, the ground is really shaking below them but we also have to be realistic that they don't have many other options beyond the united states if they're looking for an international benefactor. we still are as one analyst i talked to yesterday said we still are the only game in town for them. >> julie, before we go to break, i want to get the white house's take on this. secretary of state john kerry

just landed in russia in anticipation of a meeting with president vladimir putin. this would be their first meeting since the crisis in ukraine escalated last year. american officials say the discussion will center on the conflict in syria. kerry and putin met on the subject two years ago resulting in an international conference on the war which failed to find a solution. this comes just days after president obama and other western leaders boycotted moscow's anniversary celebration of the end of world war ii. julie? >> i think there's two things we have to watch for here. one on syria is is there something happening behind the scenes that makes the u.s. feel like it's worth giving a peace process with syria a chance? is there a realistic possibility that assad and the rebels would come to the table? we haven't seen a lot of success on that path so far. the second is this meeting happens in the leadup to a g-7 meeting in europe next month. and you know russia was kicked out of the g8.

it's now the g7. there was a lot of talk about how the u.s. and europe needed to isolate russia. is this now a sign that that isolation is easing a bit? >> julie pace thank you. still ahead on "morning joe," what's driving the day on wall street? cnbc's sara eisen has business before the bell. and he reshaped american's operations to fight the precursor of isis. how would stanley mcchrystal take on the terror threat 2.0? he joins us this morning. and today it's an extraordinarily important day in american culture -- >> no. >> perhaps i think the most important day since the invention of the 8-track tape player, denim chaps, the pet rock. mika's new book "grow your value" out in just a few minutes. she'll she'll be on the "today" show. we'll simulcast that right here on msnbc.

we'll be right back. e a choice. book now at choicehotels.com scott: hello! nbr: scott - we're concerned. you just fed your lawn earlier this spring and now you're at it again. scott: (chuckles) indeed, a crucial late spring feeding helps defend the grass against the summer heat to come.

nbr: we knew that - right guys? oh yeah! scott: feed your lawn. feed it! if your purse is starting to look more like a tissue box... you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin®. because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. zyrtec®. muddle no more™ .

my name is jamir dixon and i'm a locate and mark fieldman for pg&e. most people in the community recognize the blue trucks as pg&e. my truck is something new... it's an 811 truck. when you call 811, i come out to your house and i mark out our gas lines and our electric lines to make sure that you don't hit them when you're digging. 811 is a free service. i'm passionate about it because every time i go on the street i think about my own kids. they're the reason that i want to protect our community and our environment, and if me driving a that truck means that somebody gets to go home safer, then i'll drive it every day of the week. together, we're building a better california.

time now to take a look at the morning papers "the wall street journal," the number of deaths caused by general motors defective ignition switches reached a grim milestone of 100 on monday after a compensation fund deemed three more death claims eligible. fund administrators say more than 4,300 claims 4 deaths and injuries linked to faulty ignition switches had been filed. gm set up the fund after an internal investigation found that the automaker had known about ignition problem for years but failed to fix them. let's go to the "new york times." the obama administration has given shell conditional approval to begin drilling for oil and gas in the arctic. that move comes after four

months after the administration opened up a portion of the atlantic coast for new offshore drilling. shell's drilling plan proposes up to six wells in an area about 70 miles off the northwest coast of alaska. and officials insist they've taken measures to ensure the new arctic drilling would be carefully regulated. "the washington post," a new book out this week offers a glimpse into the mind of billionaire tech entrepreneur and tesla owner elon musk. >> this is not good. >> it goes in the category of things that are not okay to say. >> not cool. not cool. >> one unnamed tesla employee said musk scolded him for skipping a work event to be present for the birth of his child. in an e-mail he wrote, that is no excuse. i'm extremely disappointed you need to figure out where your priorities are. we're changing the world and changing history and you either commit or you don't.

>> wow. >> one of tesla's earliest employees recall the ceo's reaction when an employee complained they were working too much tell those people they'll get to see their families a lot when we go bankrupt. >> mr. sunshine. >> all right. >> willie geist, mr. sunshine must be a wonderful guy to work for. >> yeah there's an intensity there. >> maybe he's a little focused. >> i guess that's what we'll call it. let's go to obviously a corporation that is family friendly and does everything absolutely right, because their tour of italys taste so darn good. the associated press is reporting that the olive garden launched a new plan to improve sales. they certainly don't need a new plan for me. bread stick sandwiches. >> what? >> that's the meal? >> i prayed for this. i pray for this when i was young

at bible camp. >> seriously, is that the meal? >> starting june 1st, stay with me here the italian restaurant train will launch meatball and chicken parmesan subs that will be sand witched between their breadsticks. olive garden spokesperson says the sandwiches will feature breadsticks that are shorter and wider than usual. >> let me see the picture. >> it looked gross. >> well gross is in. >> and the good part is you start with a basket of bread sticks and then you have the bread stick sandwich. you can double down. >> i know what i'm having for breakfast every day for the next month. >> that's delightful. >> mika what's coming up next. coming up he's no longer calling the shots but retired general stanley mcchrystal has plenty to say when it comes to america's fight against terrorism. the former special-ops commander

joins us. keep it right here on "morning joe." ollect killer whales from the wild. and haven't for 35 years. with the hightest standard of animal care in the world, our whales are healthy. they're thriving. i wouldn't work here if they weren't. and government research shows they live just as long as whales in the wild. caring for these whales, we have a great responsibility to get that right. and we take it very seriously. because we love them. and we know you love them too. when a moment spontaneously turns romantic why pause to take a pill? and why stop what you're doing to find a bathroom? with cialis for daily use, you don't have to plan around either. it's the only daily tablet approved to treat erectile dysfunction so you can be ready anytime the moment is right. plus cialis treats the frustrating urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night. tell your doctor about all your medical

conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision or any symptoms of an allergic reaction stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. why pause the moment? ask your doctor about cialis for daily use. for a free 30-tablet trial go to cialis.com

- more than a billion people visit social networking sites every month. let's talk to our kids about what they publish and post and what they don't. an open dialogue is the best way to help kids navigate the internet safely. the more you know. jeb bush is taking heat on all sides after saying he would have authorize the the war in iraq, even given what we now know about the intelligence failures that got us in there. nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker reports.

>> reporter: jeb bush has insisted he's not a carbon copy of his brother but now new questions after fox news asked him if like former president george w. bush he would have authorized the war in iraq. >> knowing what we know now, would you have authorized the invasion? >> i would have so would have hillary clinton just to remind everybody and almost everybody that was confronted with the intelligence they got. >> you don't think it was a mistake n. retrospect the intelligence that the world saw, not just the united states was faulty. >> reporter: bush acknowledged a failure to focus on security once the war was waged. >> guess who thinks those mistakes took place as well? george w. bush. >> your brother. >> yes. so just for the news flash to the world, if they're trying to find places where there's big space between me and my brother, this might not be one of those. >> reporter: no surprise democrats pounced, releasing this attack ad. >> can't get fooled again. >> reporter: it's the criticism from the right that could do the

most damage, including from conservative radio host laura ingram. >> what he said was rubbish. you can't still think that going into iraq now as a sane human being was the right thing to do. >> reporter: with a majority of americans now saying the iraq war wasn't worth it bush has previously tried to distance himself from his brother's legacy. >> i'm my own man. my views are shaped by my own thinking and experiences. >> reporter: and on fox, bush said despite his famous last name, he's well equipped to take on hillary clinton, also the product of a political dynasty. >> i haven't been in washington over the last ever. i'm not part of washington. >> obviously a lot for jeb bush to be explaining today. i'm sure there will be a lot of follow-up questions about those very, very interesting comments. a lot i need to clarify. that was kristen welker reporting. retired four star u.s. army general and former commander of

coalition forces in afghanistan, stanley mcchrystal. he's the co-author of the new book "team of teams." also retired u.s. army colonel and nbc news military analyst jack jacobs. thank you so much for being with us and always, thank you so much for your service to our country. general mcchrystal, let's begin with you. disruption seems to be the word of the moment whether you're talking in the corporate world for management the media world where we reside or if you're talking about the military world as well. it's no longer enough for cadets to study what robert e. lee did in 1863 or 1864. things are moving so fast. what type of leader do you want in the pentagon or on the battlefield fighting for this country in these very strange disruptive times? >> well, joe, i think we're looking for an adaptable leader. we grew up trying to be as efficient as we could. we learned processes, we had checklists formulas for doing

things. that doesn't work anymore. now i think we'll have to have leaders who are just inherently adaptable and build that into their organizations. >> well general, admiral fedorman once told me he ran naval train for the u.s. nave he once told me he kept getting engineers shoved at him. i'd much rather have a guy with -- who graduated and had a degree in p.e. that had instincts up in the air. it sounds like you agree that we need to move away from like you said, the processes, the engineers and more of the rigid outlook on what constitutes great leadership in the military. >> there's an ak in the military that says no plan survives contact with the enemy. that's always been known. but at the same time, what we do is create bureaucratic structures and processes and habits that even if we have people who want to be adaptable, they course at them and course

at how we think they silo organizes, limit communications and tend to pull information and decisionmaking to higher and higher level. what i would argue in a fast-paced environment that's as complex as this world you've got to share information radically across your organization and push decisionmaking down. >> well general, let me ask you about one specific aspect. i believe it's in team of teams and certainly within your life. you had a jsoc, joint special operations command. can you talk about small unit cohesion as opposed to the big bureaucratic approach not just to warfare but corporate governance and things like that. >> if we start with the 2004 olympic basketball team that disproved talent alone was not enough, you had to form teams. the small teams we created were agile and precise and effective.

but when the problem became bigger and you had to scale that problem large, just taking a collection of small teams and putting them out against the enemy, we found was ineffective. in 2004 in iraq we found the best trained most exquisitely prepared force ever fielded wasn't beating al qaeda because they were inherently flexible and agile. not because they plan to be but because they grew up in a area where information technology and the interconnectedness just allowed them to be spread out, to be franchise-like much as isis is doing now. so we had to change our basic culture. we had to take the hierarchy that tried to command these small teams, up-end it and create this flatter structure in which the small teams were put into this network in which decisions were made very low, assets were traded between the teams very quickly and we were able to decentralize operations that became very very rapid.

>> colonel jacobs anybody that's worked in the pentagon for more than five minutes knows that agile and flexible are not words that stick to that bureaucracy bureaucracy. how do you create a culture change on that level, colonel? >> one of the things you have to do is recognize exactly what you're talking about. bureaucracies do routine things in a routine way and if you ask them to do anything else, you're looking for trouble. they won't do anything or they'll mess it up or they'll ignore you completely. i think the thing to do is to avoid bureaucracies wherever possible. certainly in decisionmaking. there was a chief of staff in the army many years ago named edward shymire. he recognized the his own bureaucracy was not going to go anywhere and that what he had to do was convene some bright minds around him and circumvent the bureaucracy. he was more or less successful in getting things accomplished. but one of the principle ways of

getting around bureaucracy is to be very very articulate about what it is you're trying to accomplish. if you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there. if you don't articulate what it is you're trying to do, the bureaucracy will eat you up and you won't get anywhere at all. >> general mcchrystal, obviously this was highlighted in bob woodward's book and how the commander in chief even had to work around the bureaucracy to get general petraeus where he needed general petraeus. i remember reading the book and thinking, even the commander in chief has to fight the bureaucracy. >> it's interesting. we always look for villains in the piece. in reality, the villain is sometimes the bureaucracy, the organization itself. there's no single person you can put your finger on and fire or move out of the way. we just created this sledge in

the system that won't let things happen. >> what worries you most about what's going on today in this hugely dangerous world of ours? >> it's probably our own inability to get things done. if you look at isis there, they've got a stupid doctrine. they've got abhorrent behavior. they are spreading in a franchise-like way. they're using information technology and an information campaign that's stunningly effective. none of that should work. none of that should be able to operate against a foe that is technologically advanced has a better base of values and what not but we can't pull our different parts together. we can't become a team of teams. and inside our own organizations we struggle with the silos of the processes. if you look at our own information warfare back against isis, it tends to be more centralize. so by the time we take in the problem, we cogitate on it for a

while. >> we have complacency about technologically -- we have precision decided ammunitions and we are forgetting about the human component, the fact that it always takes more resores to hold on to an objective than it does to take it in the first place. are we heading down the wrong road in that regard? >> two parts you said are right. people talk about asymmetric warfare. in reality it's asymmetric commitment. if you're against somebody that's more committed than you are, you'll have a different outcome. our technological edge i don't think we can take that for granted. unmanned vehicles can be bought at a store. you can do extraordinary things. i think our invulnerability to a lot of these technologies is really gone and we haven't been

subjected directly yet. >> go ahead, mike. >> the book joe, is "team of teams," general stanley mcchrystal. colonel jake jacobs. >> i'm going to sign his book. >> to me? >> yes, to you. >> thank you. >> still ahead, remember this sound? well, verizon remembers it apparently, because someone thinks aol is still worth billions and we're going to find out why. plus we'll be simultaneousing with the "today" show where mika will be talking about her new book "grow your value." stick around. automotive experts name the volkswagen golf motor trend's 2015 car of the year? we'll give you four good reasons. the volkswagen golf. starting at $19,295, there's an award-winning golf for everyone.

doers. they don't worry if something's possible. they just do it. at sears optical, we're committed to bringing them eyewear that works as hard as they do. right now, save up to $200 on eyeglasses. quality eyewear for doers. sears optical

[phone rings] [man] hello,totten designs. sales department? yes...i can put you right through. sales department-this is nate. human resources. technical support. hold please. [announcer]you work hard to grow your business. [man] yes!i can totally do that for you. [announcer]our new online business planning tools

will help your business thrive. wells fargo.together we'll go far. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] you wouldn't ignore signs of damage in your home. are you sure you're not ignoring them in your body? even if you're treating your crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis an occasional flare may be a sign of damaging inflammation. and if you ignore the signs, the more debilitating your symptoms could become. learn more about the role damaging inflammation may be playing in your symptoms with the expert advice tool at crohnsandcolitis.com. and then speak with your gastroenterologist. time for business before the bell. sara eisen from cnbc i'm a little surprised at this aol

purchase $4.4 billion. it seems like we're going back to 1 93 or 1994. i mean they might as well invest $4 billion into ace of bass or boyz ii men. >> aol reive-invented himself under the new ceo, armstrong. aol has come a long way from the dialup days when it had something like 20 million dialup customers. and it was merged with time warner. remember that, more than $150 billion deal. >> oh, yeah. >> aol is something very different. it's built itself on two things one, content. it has properties like huffington post and gadget tech crunch. that's all part of the basket. it has a very sophisticated mobile advertising network. that is what verizon is after. because you have verizon, you've got at&t t-mobile. it's a pretty saturated market when it comes to wireless phone

subscribers. for growth verizon has been hinting and looking at going into launching a mobile video service and buying aol gives it the advertising technology and infrastructure that it needs to do that. >> outside of huffington post where are the customers that justify the 4.4 billion? and could this be a sign of people being so desperate for content that they're willing to pay more than the market might bear out? >> it's not about the content. it's not about those websites. it's actually about the advertising network that tim armstrong at aol has built up. so that verizon can use that. it's getting the huff post it's getting the tech crunches sort of in that acquisition but the value here is in the technology infrastructure that aol has perfected. something verizon doesn't do because it's been too busy acquiring phone customers and making deals on that front. what you're going to see from verizon, it's going to get actually into mobile video.

it's going to launch a whole new service. >> right. >> and with that it's going to need to have advertising on that platform. that's what this aol deal is about. that's where the $4.4 billion value is. >> not to be difficult here but just educate me. do you know anybody that uses aol, that goes on aol? >> probably not in a very long time. people don't use it for that anymore. what aol has become it's become through this series of content acquisitions, a place for people to go on to these various websites and to attract advertisers on mobile. that's where all the advertising money is going into digital. it's going to mobile it's going to digital. and through its properties it's attracted advertisers. now what verizon wants to do is be able to make money off of advertising on mobile video. that's where it sees the future which is already a pretty crowded field. keep an eye on verizon. that's where this is all going here. >> all right, sara eisen, thank you so much for educating me.

let's turn to mika's new book out today, "grow your value." for that we're going to join the "today" show where mika is going to be on with savannah guthrie, not only talking about growing your value and all the things she learned from "knowing your value," a book that was a best seller and also her conferences. >> mika brzezinski co-host of msnbc's "morning joe." she's been on the road inspiring women to get ahead at work based on her best seller with the knowing your value." she's out with a new book, "grow your value." you've been on a road show with the conferences. >> the next one is this friday in washington. we have a great lineup of women, claire mckaskel, the former chair of the lidc sheila bear and our three finalists from the next grow your value competition. >> these women are so inspiring. you're giving them great advice. >> love them. >> know your value was a huge

succ success. where does this next book "grow your value" pick up where you left off. >> in these events and in this competition and book this is to help women read see it in black and white how to grow their value, get full potential and get full value back. we act it out, role play engage the audience and we show women actually taking that transformation to the full extent on stage live at the end of the day. >> you have a couple quick tips here. know what your brand is. >> be able to say it in ten seconds or less or a minute or less. be able to say what you bring to the table. >> quit people pleasing. >> savannah, that's you. there's no place for you at the negotiating table. there's no place for that at work. you have to bring value. >> you have to get in my head. and learn to press reset. what does that mean. >> men do that so well. you have a bad situation, press reset, continue on with that person as if it never happened this he command respect and take control of the situation.

with women we're thinking about everything. >> i shouldn't sit back agonize over it and berate myself for weeks and weeks. >> you're the agonizer i'm telling you, you have to stop. >> mika you always give us a good dose of good advice. thank you so much. the book is called "grow your value." check it out if you have a conference in your town. meanwhile, david duchovny up next. all right. of course, mika's going to be doing a lot this week not only for the book for the conferences. she'll be fielding your questions in a twitter chat today at 9:30 a.m. eastern time. you can tweet her questions using the hash tag know your value. ask her about how you can better know your value, get better deals in negotiating with your bosses and how in the world she puts up with a loud mouth like me. maybe the jane fonda idea with duct tape is a good idea. keep it here on "morning joe." we'll be back in a minute.

when account lead craig wilson books at laquinta.com. he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. so he knows exactly when he can settle in and practice his big pitch. and when craig gets his pitch down pat, do you know what he becomes? great proposal! let's talk more over golf! great. better yet, how about over tennis? even better. a game changer! your 2 o'clock is here. oops, hold your horses. no problem. la quinta inns & suites is ready for you, so you'll be ready for business. the ready for you alert, only at lq.com. laquinta! ♪ sfx: engine sounds introducing the new can-am spyder f3. with a cruising riding position and the most advanced vehicle stability system in the industry... ...you'll ride with a feeling of complete freedom and confidence. visit your can-am spyder dealer and test drive one today. the new spyder f3. riding has evolved.

♪ ♪ [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪ ♪ she can print amazing things right from her computer. [ whirring ] [ train whistle blows ] she makes trains that are friends with trees. ♪ ♪ my mom works at ge. ♪ ♪

it's so shiny. i know, mommy, but it's time to let the new kitchen get some sleep. if you want beautiful results, you know where to go - angie's list. now everyone can get highly rated service even without a membership. you can shop special offers or just tell us what you need and we'll help you find a local company to take care of it. angie's list is there for all your projects, big and small. pretty. come see what the new angie's list can do for you.

there is an ancient rhythm... [♪] that flows through all things... through rocky spires... [♪] and ocean's swell... [♪] the endless... stillness of green... [♪] and in the restless depths of human hearts... [♪] the voice of the wild within. . let's go to bill karins now. you've been tracking severe weather over the past week. what's it look like now? >> texas can't catch a break, joe. corpus christi overnight received 4 1/2 inches of rain major flooding ongoing with flash flooding and also a creek

that goes through corpus christi is well above flood stage. they're expecting a miserable day with all the rain. this is the mcs, the mezzo connecting cyclone. nashville, arkansas this was a mobile home area, one person, one fatality one person seriously injured. when you see what looks to be the top of a tree iterally chopped off like that that's strong winds. these are estimated at 160 mile-per-hour winds. that's an ef-3 on the fa jeetujita scale for tornadoes. the biggest thing we have going on is the flash flooding in the corpus christi area. that should subside as we go throughout the afternoon. the soil super saturated from the storms we had this weekend. we had flash flood wages going

from oklahoma city dallas-ft. worth worth, san antonio. about 1 to 3 inches of additional rainfall. doesn't sound like a lot but they just got 10 inches. this will aggravate the situation here. the rest of the country is looking pretty good. this will easily be the warmest day we've seen in the eastern seaboard. joe, we're looking at maybe 90 today in new york city. we will get into the 90s today in d.c. 91. a taste of summer before it cools down tomorrow. >> all right. getting into the 90s, bill, of course wait for all of us to start complaining about hot weather. >> muggy, too hot. >> yes. >> it's too muggy, too hot, i wish it were fall. thank you so much bill karins. greatly appreciate it. our thoughts and prayers obviously with our friends in texas. when we come back what if anything, did we learn today?

you total your brand new car. nobody's hurt,but there will still be pain. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three-quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do, drive three-quarters of a car? now if you had liberty mutual new car replacement, you'd get your whole car back. i guess they don't want you driving around on three wheels. smart. with liberty mutual new car replacement, we'll replace the full value of your car. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. listen up... i'm reworking the menu. veggies you're cool... mayo, corn dogs... you are so out of here! ahh... the complete balanced nutrition of great tasting ensure. with nine grams of protein... and 26 vitamins and minerals. and now with... ...twice as much vitamin d

...which up to 90% of people don't get enough of. ohhhhhhh. the sunshine vitamin! ensure now has 2x more vitamin d to support strong bones. ensure. take life in.

sal khan: khan academy is a not-for-profit, with a mission of providing a free world-class education for anyone anywhere. if you look at a khan academy video, they can cover everything from basic arithmetic to calculus, trigonometry, finance. you can really just get what you need at your own pace. and so, bank of america came and reached out to us and said 'we are really interested in making sure that everyone really understands personal finance.' and we're like 'well, we're already doing that.' and so it was kind of a perfect match. scott: hello! nbr: scott - we're concerned. you just fed your lawn earlier this spring and now you're at it again. scott: (chuckles) indeed, a crucial late spring feeding helps defend the grass against the summer heat to come. nbr: we knew that - right guys? oh yeah! scott: feed your lawn. feed it!

mike barnicle what an exciting day. we talked about it before. this is really -- look at that "grow your value," this is really about as big a day in american culture as we can remember. >> this is true. we got the book "grow your value" out today. but we also had on this morning general stan morell telling us there's reason to be weary about this dangerous world. >> mika what's on your checklist?

>> what's on your checklist. >> i checked off everything you did on the show. you were good today. >> really? >> yes. you didn't mention know your value in washington and there are still tickets available. you have failed sir. >> joe, what time is it? >> it's time to buy mika's book "grow your value" and we'll see you at the washington conference on friday. but it's "morning joe," stick around, the "rundown" is next. good morning, we begin the rundown with breaking news out of nepal. another massive earthquake has hit. just as the area is recovering from last month's quake. the death toll from today, 7.3 quake, up to at least 42 as we come on the air at this