they're good people. >> thank you for your time. that is all for now. "the ed show" continues our coverage coming up next. and good evening, welcome to "the ed show" from washington, d.c. breaking news. we are waiting at this moment for the national transportation and safety board. any minute officials will give us a briefing with the latest information. we'll go straight to that. seven people confirmed dead at this hour. more than 200 have been treated for injuries. officials say an estimated 243 individuals were on that train. the search for survivors continues now. we have some audio of the transmissions that have been released. take a listen. >> notify amtrak to shut down the entire northeast corridor. we have a major event here. we have people on the track and a couple cars overturned.

we're gonna classify this as a mass casualty incident. we have at least ten cars overturned. a lot of patients and rescues to be made. we have over 50 patients at west division. correction, we have over 50 patients at east division. still have mull approximately rescues to be made. still pulling out a lot of patients and the tracks are still hot. >> the ntsb confirmed preliminary data shows the train speed exceeded 100 miles an hour prior to derailment. further calibrations are being conducted at the moment. let's bring in our correspondent, who is close to that location. we've been hearing from mayor nutter. we understand they will be

giving us some new information. what are you hearing there? >> the ntsb is going to be holding a press conference where they'll be shedding light on the investigation. here are some facts we do know about what we recovered at the scene. most importantly is that data recorder, the event recorder that is considered the black box of the train, if you will. it has all kind of information, including signaling information. it's going to be very critical in the ongoing investigation. we also know there was a forward facing camera onboard. there's going to be a lot of video and images that could shed light as to where and when that train derailed. we were saying that derailment took place at 9:00 p.m. local time here. it's a seven car train that was derailed. one of them completely mangled. three in complete disarray. it's an active scene here according to michael nutter. as you were saying, seven people dead. 200 or so treated in local area hospitals. the ntsb is going to be focusing its investigation on to

different factors, including signaling factors, the train operation, and more importantly the actions of the engineer at the time of this derailment. they have not shed lying yetight yet on to the specific cause of the derailment. they have confirmed it was going at a speed of about 100 miles per hour. in a train that was supposed to be about about 50 miles per hour. it gives you a sense it was moving at about double the speed of what it should have been at the time. and this given the fact that the train was supposed to be entering that turn you know slowing down from a speed of about 70 miles per hour. so it is a very important point right now. but the ntsb is not saying that could have been the only excuse for the derailment, richard. >> so the big question that you're intimating here how did this happen what are the factors behind how this may have happened? but before we get maybe some of those pieces of information from the ntsb very very shortly, give us a sense of how what you were talking about earlier today, might be a little bit different today. what's been the arc of the story so far now 5:00 local time?

>> reporter: if you ask city officials and they've been briefing the media here their focus right now is on accounting for everybody that was on that train. you know, they put the number out there. that has been their main focus over the course of the past 24 hours, identifying the injuries the victims. people may have walked away making sure they're getting all the treatment. that has been their primary focus. the secondary focus obviously is the investigation, and what has emerged over the course of the past 24 hours has been at least in terms of the most important piece of information, is the speed of the train. could that have been the only reason? that is what we're going to find out from the ntsb perhaps in a few minutes or the coming days. but that certainly is a critical piece of information, because it certainly sheds light on how fast the train was going, how dangerous they may have been around that turn. the ntsb says though it's not the only important piece of information. signaling factors could be important as well, as well as the engineer's own actions during the time of the derailment. those are the three factors the

ntsb will be looking at. they have not come out and said either one of those factors is the single factor in causing this derailment. >> very quickly, we've got to go but i want to get a sense, what is this neighborhood like? is it industrial or is it residential? >> reporter: this is a very residential neighborhood. we've had a chance to walk around. it is a neighborhood of very condensed row houses. a lot of tributaries here from the delaware river. a lot of people that we've been speaking to here, you know very middle class ordinary folks. surprised by what happened here last night. some of them going out to the scene, seeing some of the wounded. seeing some of the injured, rather, and those that were treated. we spoke to some who had pictures on their phones. but very much a community that has been shocked but what has happened behind them. >> thank you so much. we'll now bring in joy reid msnbc national correspondent. joy, as we look at some of the issues regarding those who were injured, and i understand you've been following that very closely

based on your location there at the hospital we got this latest information from one of the chief medical officers there at temple. and what he was saying was he was surprised at the number of rib fractures, because all of the patients that he had seen and that he was supervising had rib fractures. what are you hearing from where you're at? >> reporter: absolutely, richard. we are here in front of temple university hospital. and dr. cushing talked about the number of rib fractures, lung injuries, and patients coming in with that kind of a fracture. he said those are not surprising injuries for people who were inside of a moving vehicle and inside of a crash. so they're not unexpected fractures. dr. cushing said he was surprised that there were not more lung collapses, things like that. and that there were not more head injuries. a surprising number because of course, people were not belted into seat belts in those cars of the train. so given the kind of accident

and the catastrophic nature of what happened to that train, dr. cushing said he was surprised that there weren't even more head injuries. but yes, most of the injuries they are seeing are things like broken bones, but also a lot of chest injuries. >> and part of that for those who have not ridden these trains before on the regional the luggage sits above the passengers' heads and really there isn't much other than a small little rope about the size -- the thickness of a big shoe string that keeps many of these pieces of luggage from falling over and given that there are very few, at least based on what dr. cushing is saying from his patients very few head injuries that might be really a saving grace there in terms of the information he's giving. >> reporter: yeah and people who travel very often on the amtrak train, which i do will know that people often come on to the train not with a lot of luggage. people don't bring the extensive amount of baggage. a lot of people are traveling short distances. it's a 2:45-minute ride between

here and new york city. so a lot of people don't have a lot of heavy luggage that they're putting overhead. there's also come partments in the front of the car where you can put your larger luggage. there's not a lot of luggage typically in that overhead come partment -- compartment. you have a lot of people walking around standing around in the car, just freely moving throughout those cars and it is a condensed space. the kind of injuries that we're seeing, dr. cushing said were not particularly surprising. one of the fatalities that we do know about, james marshall gaines iii, who was 49 -- we're not sure if he was 49 or 48. typical of the really serious injuries we saw and he was one of the people who did die overnight. he had a very serious chest wound. he came in with a catastrophic injury to the chest area. so again, dr. cushing saying these are not necessarily surprising given the nature of

the way people are riding in the car and the way the train rolled over and crashed. >> okay joy. the ntsb now coming to the microphones. thank you so much. they will be giving us the very latest information that they've found. let's take a listen. >> good evening. my name is robert sumwalt. i'm a board member with the national transportation and safety board. ntsb, as many of you know is an independent federal agency. we're charged by congress to investigate transportation accidents, to determine the probable cause, and issue safety recommends to try and keep these accidents from happening again. before i go any further, i would like to offer our sincere condolences for the loss of lives and the injuries that people have sustained, and our

thoughts and prayers are truly with them. ntsb investigators began arriving here in philadelphia between 4:00 and 5:00 this morning and the majority of the go team was in place here in philadelphia by about 9:30 this morning. upon arrival here on the scene, we coordinated with the local officials, the first responders and then we conducted a pretty thorough walk-through of the accident site to be able to get an idea of what we're dealing with. sort of the lay of the land. at noon we held an organizational meeting where we established our investigative protocols and parties to the investigation. the investigator in charge is mike flanagan. he has over 40 years of railroad experience and more than 15 years of accident investigation experience with the ntsb.

he was leading a multi-disciplinary team of accident investigators that will be looking into the track, the signals, and i'm talking about the train control system the operations of the train, the mechanical condition of the train, to include the brake system recorders, survival factors, and emergency response. in addition to our investigative team, we have experts from the ntsb's office of transportation disaster assistance. they are here to help facilitate the needs of the victims and their families. here's the factual information that we presently have. last evening, amtrak 188, an

amtrak northeast regional train, departed philadelphia's 30th street station at 9:10 p.m., bound for new york city's penn station. the train consisted of one locomotive and seven passenger cars and according to amtrak there were 238 passengers and a crew of five for a total of 243 occupants of the train. at approximately 9:21 p.m. while traveling through a left-hand turn the entire train derailed. just moments before the derailment, the train was placed into engineer reduced braking,

and this means that the engineer applied full emergency brake application. maximum authorized speed through this curve was 50 miles per hour. when the engineer induced brake application was applied, the train was traveling at approximately 106 miles per hour. three seconds later, when the data to the recorders terminated the train speed was 102 miles per hour. i will indicate that these are preliminary figures of speed subject to further validation but we're pretty close on that. that's our first look at it. it's a pretty complex thing. you don't just press a button and it spits out a speed. we have to measure the wheel speed and then put that into a formula. but we're pretty confident the train was traveling pretty close

to those speeds within one or two miles per hour. the train had recorders. it had forward facing video cameras. it had an event data recorder. both of these recorders are being sent to our laboratory for analysis in washington, d.c. we did get these initial speeds that we just provided you with from an initial download of the event recorder. we've released the track back to amtrak and they will begin rebuilding it very soon. the locomotive and all but two of the train passenger cars are currently being moved to a secure location where a detailed examination and documentation can occur. throughout the next few days the investigators will work on

scene to thoroughly document the accident site and gather factual information. we will be doing a more detailed documentation of the rail cars and the scene. we plan to interview the train crew and other personnel. we would like to interview passengers of the train. we will be conducting a site distance test. we'll be testing the signal system, the train control signals. we'll be testing the braking system and a detailed analysis instead of the cursory analysis that i mentioned earlier of the recorders. we'll be doing a very detailed download and analysis of those recorders. our mission is to find out not only what happened, but why it happened so that we can prevent it from happening again. that's really what we're here for. to learn from these things so that we can keep them from

happening again. i suspect that our investigators will be here in philadelphia on scene for about a week. i want to emphasize that we're not here on scene to determine the cause of the accident while we're on scene. we're not going to speculate our purpose for being here. i like to describe it is that we are here to collect perishable evidence, which is that information that will go away with the passage of time. that's really what we're here to do. collect that information that will go away with the passage of time. we can do the analysis later. but we have to capture those data very carefully now. i feel like for just arriving obscene this morning, i feel like the preliminary information that we have is robust. but we still have a lot to get. i know that you have a lot of questions. we have a lot of questions.

and our commitment to you is that we're delivering factual information, we will be releasing it. i will be looking for a press conference about this time tomorrow to tell you what we've learned tomorrow. and that's the way it works. our investigators are out in the field doing their jobs during the day, and they report back to me so i can report to you. i would encourage you to follow us on twitter. our twitter handle is @ntsb. as i wrap it up i'd like to thank the first responders for all of their efforts. they've been out here through the night, through the early morning, all day trying to secure this area. we want to thank them for their heart efforts. now, i will call for questions. i'm going to call for questions. what i'd like for you to do is raise your hand. i will call on you. once i call on you, please state your name and your outlet.

>> have you had a chance to talk to the engineer. the report is out that he did not comment -- [ inaudible question ] >> have we talked to the engineer, the answer to that is no, but we plan to. this person has gone through a very traumatic event, and we wan to give him an opportunity to convalesce for a day or so before we interview him. that is a high priority for us to interview the train crew right here. >> you talked about 106 miles per hour for the speed. how long did it take -- and progressively getting faster and faster, do you have a timeline for that? >> the question is at what point did the train reach 106

miles per hour. my initial examination of the data, we have not gone back that far, because it is a very detailed analysis. we will be coming up with a time line. that's one of the things we will do. but we don't have those exact figures at this point. any alarms in the cab of the locomotive and we will discover that information. from the event recorders. yes, right here. >> are you confident that all the fatalities have been accounted for? you say most of the rail cars have been removed. there are you say one or two left. do you know if there are any more fatalities? >> the question is do i know if there are any more fatalities and the information concerning the fatalities. i don't want to sound bureaucratic. we are here to investigate the accident. and that's our lane.

the release of the information on the injuries and fatalities that is the domain of the philadelphia office of emergency management. so they would have that information. and so that's the answer to that. we'll come here. >> you mentioned it applied the emergency brake system just before the crash happened. would that have been enough to bring this speed under the level it should have been? was it too late? >> the question is the engineer applied the -- put the train into emergency braking a few seconds before moments before the derailment. the next three or four seconds, the speed of the train had only decreased to 102. as we know it takes a long time and distance to decelerate a train. how long would it take to get the speed down below the track speed of 50 miles an hour?

well, he was already in the curve at that point. you're supposed to enter the curve at 50 miles an hour. we'll take a question right here. [ inaudible question ] the question is is the black box -- the event data recorder is that at amtrak? is that what your question is? we took it to -- and that's the question. we took the event recorder to amtrak's facilities because they have the equipment locally to download it. they took it there for the preliminary look. we're taking it to our own labs in washington, d.c. how many event recorders are there? there's one event recorder and that's in the locomotive. in addition to the event recorder, there is a forward

facing camera. [ inaudible question ] was the train equipped with any type of device that could have or should have slowed it down to keep it within its limits? and amtrak throughout a good bit of the northeastern corridor has a system called advanced civil speed enforcement. that's called acis. it is not installed for this area where the accident occurred, where the derailment occurred. that type of system is designed to enforce the civil speed to keep the train below its maximum speed.

so we have called for positive train control for many many years. it's on our most wanted list. congress has mandated that it be installed by the end of this year. so were very keen on positive train control. we feel that had such a system been installed in this section of track, this accident would not have occurred. [ inaudible question ] is this train equipped with a dead man switch? some have it, some don't. oftentimes in place of the dead man switch they have an alerter. if there's no activity from the engineer within a certain period of time, their oral and visual alerter will activate in the cab of the locomotive and if an engineer makes a throttle movement or something, that will deactivate. we want to know exactly what was

in that car. let me call on you. i'll take a question right here. >> the last time this rail was actually inspected, what did your investigation find? >> when was the last time it was inspected. a rail geometry car went over the track yesterday. and as far as our examination of the track, you've got to understand there's been a lot of activity out there right now. our examination will begin after those cars are thoroughly removed and i expect we'll be out there documenting that tomorrow. question right here. [ inaudible question ] rail tank cars were very close to the point of derailment.

were they empty? i am told -- i want to further verify this. i'm told they were not full at the time of the accident. there's a question right here. [ inaudible question ] do we know how long the engineer had operated this route and how long had he been with amtrak. that's the type of information -- i don't consider that perishable evidence. that's data we can get two weeks from now. what we're trying to do is get out there and measure everything that won't be here in two weeks. so to answer your question we don't know. i can't tell you right now because i don't know how long he had been there. but that's the information we will get. so we want to interview him. we want to review his training records, his employment records. that's standard. there's a question right here. >> the headline right here in this breaking news that's coming out of this news briefing there in philadelphia at the site of the regional train is that

maximum allowed speed at that turn according to the ntsb 50 miles an hour. the data and information they got from the recorder says it was traveling at 106 miles an hour when it entered that curve that had the speed limit of 50 miles an hour. at which time energy si brakemergency brakes were applied at which time it reduced to 102, at which time data ceased to be recorded. joining us is philadelphia mayor michael nutter. you have been very very busy. what was the speed limit and what is it that they're looking for at the moment on the ground? we heard so much in a very short amount of time. first off, i want to get your reaction from that headline coming from the ntsb. double the speed limit there.

>> well i mean it's just devastating information, and again, would indicate a preventable accident. what a horrific tragedy this is. and i did not hear a reason for the train going that fast. 106 miles an hour on a 50-mile limit in terms of that section of the track. as was indicated, clearly a preventable accident and the lsz loss of life, the injuries, the incredible damage. it just breaks your heart to hear something like this and unless something really went wrong with the engineer in those moments, i mean it's just heartbreaking. >> you've been consistent in that concern because you have a

neighborhood that's not only looking out the backs of their houses. you have the families that are involved with the passengers on that train. >> right. individuals, their remains have been taken to our medical examiner. we've had to photonotify families. we've had other people still trying to figure out where they loved one may be. these are -- you know they're human beings. these are not just you know stories of you know somewhere and some other place. it's right here. in the heart of the neighborhood. the neighbors feel terrible obviously about this. and our whole city is mourning this kind of accident. we don't know why this happened. we know now what happened. >> mayor michael nutter there live on location for us in philadelphia at the site. clearly a difficult time for the

mayor. i believe that mayor nutter is now back with us. mayor nutter so well expressed there. share with us, if you can, one of the conversations you have had with one of the residents in that area, or one of the family members of those who were involved in this crash. >> i talked to a resident from our earlier press conference and she literally just brought out two cups of coffee that she had made. she knows we've been up and at this for a long period of time. we're now 18 hours or so into this event. kmunty people want to do something. this is philadelphia. the city of brotherly love and sisterly affection. people that actually take that very, very seriously. they want to know what to do but they are in pain. this train comes through their neighborhood and backyards. and we're just at a loss to

understand now, even with this information, why did this happen. what is this about. and on behalf of a million and a half people and growing here in philadelphia, we expressed the deepest sympathies and sorrow to all of these family members, those who have lost their loved one. people who were injured. and those that we're still searching for. >> mayor, what's next? what are you focusing on in the next 24 hours? >> the search continues. we continue the matching of amtrak manifest, in terms of who we think may have been on the train. just because someone bought a ticket doesn't necessarily mean that they were on that train. sometimes people miss trains or book another train or something like that. we know the people that we have seen at our hospitals or at our family center in terms of getting information from them. so we're trying to match up all of that information. we're trying to get phone numbers. we've put out a number for people to let us know if they

are okay and haven't checked in with us before. so the church continues. ntsb is doing their investigation. federal railway administration is doing their investigation. we're here to of course support their efforts, the philadelphia fire department police department, homeland security, state police all doing a fantastic job in working together. >> we share your concern, and of course look forward to all of the investigation moving forward in a very expeditious way. they are now on the ground. they said they'll be there another week. appreciate you stopping by from the great city of philadelphia. >> thank you. >> appreciate your time. we'll have more on the deadly train derailment in philadelphia right after this. doers. they don't worry if something's possible. they just do it. at sears optical, we're committed to bringing them eyewear that works as hard as they do. right now, save up to $200 on eyeglasses. quality eyewear for doers. sears optical across america people, like basketball hall of famer dominique wilkins, are taking charge

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curve, the spoedeed limit 50 miles an hour. the ntsb saying based on the data coming from the recorder more than double that speed limit. yet, there were many survivors. the search for additional one ss from that location. i want to get straight to some individuals who were on that train. we have beth davitz a freelance journalist. an artist who joins us by phone. paul you just heard the headline. double the speed limit. and i know it's tough to get a sense of sfeed.peed. now that you hear the headline what's your reaction? >> again, everything happened so fast, you don't really think much about it. all i know is like when you are in a car or in the new york

city subway and suddenly everything just kind of stopped, and the whole thing shakes left to right. and that situation, you know uh-oh, something is not right here. >> and beth tell us about where you were on these seven cars and now that you hear about this headline about double the speed limit, any sense of this? do you travel it a lot? did you get a sense that you might be going too fast? >> i travel this actually pretty often between new york and philly or new york and d.c. on a train, it just felt like a normal trip. i was on the phone, and then it just felt like you know we just were taking a turn. you just thought that the car was just wobbling and that's when you knew it was actually tipping over. i was in the third car.

so i mean, it was one of the cars -- >> was that the quiet car? >> no it was one right after the quiet car. >> got it. >> but it was on the side. one of the situations where we actually had to climb up over the chairs to get up to climb through the window. >> were you injured? >> other than looking like i was in a bad fight, i'm fine. >> that's good. so glad to hear that for you. so tell me about with a you think from the ntsb, that just coming out in the last 15 minutes. that double the speed limit headline. >> i mean, in the experience it's just that moment is this really going wrong? and then it's just that moment of it's kind of survival, when you're in the dark. experiencing it, i wasn't thinking it was 100 or not. i didn't hear a crash. it's one of those things that that's -- we don't know what

caused it. and in the moment, you aren't necessarily thinking that. you just can't believe it's actually happened. >> dave you're in trenton, new jersey, now. what car were you in and what's your thought about where we are now with seven confirmed dead still looking for more and this information, again coming out from the ntsb. >> you know i was just setting my phone to don't fall asleep before trenton. i was checking the time on my phone. it was 9:15 around that. the train started to shake. just some flashing. flashing sometimes. and i feel a huge amount of power. it just lifted me from my seat

you know? and then just started rolling. and, you know other passengers. and then you know i think it takes only five seconds or not more. and then the train stops, and, you know people are screaming there. looking for each other. and then people looking for their things. start to shout. because maybe they can come from another direction. another train.

and then the people to get us through the windows. >> right. >> and policemen to get in. and after that maybe for 30 or 45 minutes i start to shake. because lots of adrenaline was there. and that helps me to handle the situation somehow. >> well we are certainly glad here that you are okay. paul, you know harrowing details coming from both beth and ede there. and the ntsb also just saying that they have not spoken with the conductor as of yet. describe to me what you remember hearing in terms of those overhead announcements. what was the last one you may remember before this incident happened? >> you know, in terms of -- the only announcement i remember is when i first boarded the train.

they apologized for the train being really warm. they mentioned something about a power issue. after that, i just kind of zone out with my netflix. the next thing i know is you know, the accident. and i was surprised i heard a voice behind me telling us to get out. at first, i thought it was a kuker.kuk er -- conductor. it turns out to be a passenger. we start smelling the smoke, and that's when we know we really have to evacuate. >> and you evacuated and you were standing outside the trains and you were taking pictures of the wreck. what were you thinking when you were looking back? we're just not used to seeing these trains sitting and looking the way they're looking right now. >> it is surreal. it's almost like a movie scene. because, you know, when i jumped out, i didn't -- that's when i really get a sense of this is really bad. because i can see two of the

cops looking up. i see a couple of cars bent sideways with people coming out from the window. and i also see a couple of cars just all mangled up into pieces of metal. it's like someone had just ripped this train apart. with chairs and debris all over the field. it was pretty surreal. >> it is still a day later. paul, ede, beth we are certainly glad you're all okay today on this wednesday. thank you for joining us and sharing with us those details in your stories. we're going to continue to monitor the scene coming out of philadelphia following yesterday's deadly train derailment. we'll have an update from a doctor treating patients right after this.

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joining me on the phone is dr. mark kaplan, chair of division at trauma at einstein medical center in philadelphia. what is the most common the most common? you received many of those who were injured. what was the most common type of injury that you saw? >> we saw about 25 people from the crash yesterday. a vast majority of them were cuts bruises, contusions. we had about five people that were admitted with significant orthopedic injuries long bone injuries and one neck fracture. >> dr. kaplan we also heard from temple university that they saw a lot of chest injuries a lot of rib fractures. you didn't see that i guess at least from the descriptions that you have just given me. would you try to give us any understanding of why that difference. >> it's just the nature of the patients as they were triaged. philadelphia has a very large trauma center presence in philadelphia. and the decisions i guess were

made by the ems. >> right. >> at the scene, the way they were triaged. i guess really the luck of the draw. >> one plus one together for us here, dr. kaplan. the piece of information that just came to us within the last 30 minutes, 106 miles an hour as they entered into that curve and then those cars seven of them coming to a complete halt in that heap as you can see on the left-hand side of the screen. do the injuries that you have and that you have heard about, are they consistent with that new piece of information that we just got? >> yeah. you would expect to see fractures from blunt force trauma long bone fractures. neck injuries as temple got a lot of chest injuries. so people were thrown to the cars. a lot of blunt force trauma. and that's usually how you would see it expressed through long bone fractures and rib fractures. it kind of makes sense.

>> how much worse could it have been? >> oh, it could have been a lot worse. i think a lot of the survival of the patients were because of the advanced system we have in philly. we have five level 1 trauma centers and two level 2 trauma centers roll activated. i know there was a few patients brought to temple that were critically ill and they moved very fast on stabilizing them. we also moved very fast on stabilizing a lot of the orthopedic fractures. i think it's only because people did as well as they did because the system we have in philly. i think it's really an example of what an advanced trauma system will do in the region. >> doctor, how much sleep did you get in the last 24 hours? >> two hours. so we had on top of that we had a major gunshot wound. so it was a little bit of a challenge. but that's what trauma centers do. >> dr. mark kaplan thank you for you and all your staff, as well as the entire system there in philadelphia that you're describing for the great work you did. >> thank you. >> for all of those survivors. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> we'll have an update from our

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of the hospitals that took in many of the injured. he said he has slept two hours in the last 24 hours. tell me about all of the other rescue personnel that there r there on the ground how they are doing. they certainly must be working a very similar schedule. >> yeah and richard, like the doctor you talked to they are rung on fumes right now. they've been out here working around the clock, trying to gather information. they're getting some support, getting some help as new teams come in. but they know the magnitude of what happened here. they understand this investigation is going the take some time. and so they're reluctant to leave, to be quite honest. a lot of people want to stay on this case and maybe find exactly what they're searching for as the investigation continues. and that's -- goes for the ntsb agents out here as well the federal agents working around the clock and say they will, as you've been talking about, at least a week on-site. >> now jay, in that week they will now shift, it sounds like although he did say it's very

positive. he feels good that the information has been robust. do you hear now from those on the ground what you're seeing around you that they have shifted at all based on this latest news in the last 45 minutes of the confirmed double the allowed speed on that curve? >> no, i definitely think they shifted their focus, or at least narrowed the focus at this point. that doesn't mean they're not coming over every bit of potential evidence here and every little section of twisted metal or mangled car that may be along the tracks here. i have to say too, and it's quite impressive. we've seen these trucks moving in flatbed trucks with new railings. so they're also going to very quickly get to work and try to relay the railing here and get this very active and busy commuter line back on track, if you will. so a lot of work going on right now. but most of it as you talk about, focused on this investigation. >> jay gray so important economically to the region. thank you for that. joy, i want to get to you on

this. as we look at this progress and investigation, we can't forget what mayor nutter said so well. this is a community in shock. it's a community that is now trying to pull together. what is the latest there at the hospital, and from what you're hearing from families? >> well, what i can tell you, richard, is five area hospitals treated patients some as few as 10 and as many as 35 patients at a single hospital. temple university hospital behind me treated the largest number of patients after the train derailment took place. we're expecting to see about a half dozen people potentially go home tonight. they still have 23 people who are in very serious condition here down from 25 people as of yesterday. and they range in age from the 20s all the way up to the 80s. they range in age from u.s. citizens to people all the way as far from albanian there are at least four or fife foreign nationals as well. it's a multifaceted process. it's not really a local story at this point. these are people who are from every from d.c. to new york and everywhere in between. >> joy reid, thank you so much for your reporting today, as

well as jay gray. that's it for "the ed show" today. i'm richard lui in for ed schultz. "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, thanks, richard. and thanks to you for tuning in. we continue with breaking news on the amtrak train that crashed. the ntsb says the train was traveling over 100 miles per hour double the speed limit for that turn in a 50 mile-per-hour zone. officials say the engineer applied the brake just before the crash. >> when the engineer induced brake application was applied. the train was traveling at approximately 106 miles per hour. three seconds later, when the data to the recorders terminated the train speed was 102 miles per hour.