that is "all in" for this evening, the rachel maddow show starts now. that is "all in" for this evening, the rachel maddow show starts now. >> good evening, it's great to have you there, man. great reporting. >> thanks to you at home for staying with us the next hour. this orange box is called an event data recorder, when there's a transportation accident, that is the thing that usually holds the answers. or at least some of them, about what went wrong. we tend to call this thing a black box. as you see, it is fluorescent orange. they want to be able to find it more easily in the case of a wreck. airplanes are typically equipped with data recorders like this, but the one you see here is a locomotive data recorder. it's a similar piece of equipment, but this is the kind that's installed on trains that specific one is the locomotive data reporter that was pulled from amtrak train 188 today. traveling from d.c. to new york at this time last night, when it

suddenly derailed and crashed while rounding a curve on its way out of philadelphia. seven people confirmed dead at this point, more than 200 people injured. as to what happened and why. what we've learned substantively about the derailment has largely come from that data recorder. investigators confirming that the recorder indicates in a the train at the time of the derailment was traveling at more than 100 miles an hour, through that curve. more than twice the posted speed limit for that stretch of track. ntsb officials say the train reached a peak speed of 106 miles per hour, the train's engineer according to the data on this recorder tried to apply the brakes in the very last few seconds before the derailment and the crash. hitting the brakes when it was going 106, the train was only

slowed down to about 102 miles an hour, before the data recorder stopped recording. apparently because the train at that point derailed and crashed. nbc news tonight has been able to confirm the identity of the train's engineer, the locomotive engineer is the person driving the train, the conductor is the person who's in the passenger compartment of the train mostly and overseaing the other staff that interacts with passengers. the engineer is the person driving the train. he's been identified as an amtrak employee who is believed to live in new york city. he was brought to the police station last night, he declined to give a statement to philadelphia law enforcement officials before he left the station along with his lawyer federal investigators have been on scene at the site of the derailment.

they recovered a forward facing video camera that is facing the front of the train. both were sent to amtrak headquarters in nearby wilmington, delaware to have their data downloaded. after going to the amtrak headquarters first, they were sent to the ntsb lab in d.c. for further analysis. investigators also removed some pieces of the track. you can see here on this flatbed, pieces of the track that appear to have been relevant to the incident last night. secure location, we are told tonight that one of the amtrak passenger cars has already been removed from the site when the sun rose today, last night in our initial coverage we had

lights from helicopters and flashlights and news cameras, but we couldn't really get a whole sense of the damage. when the sun rose today, we can see all seven cars. the engine derailed, one of the difficult questions that remains even at this hour is whether all the people on board that train have been found. the death toll from this accident as i said, it stands at seven people tonight opinion at least eight more people are in critical condition. as the day has gone on, a number of people killed in this accident have been identified by their families or employers. local officials have stopped short by saying the search for more victims is over. sniffer dogs have been brought

in to comb the scene. the question remains, whether this is now just a full on investigation into what went wrong in this crash, or whether this is still an active search and recovery mission, if not a search and rescue mission. joining us now is the mayor of philadelphia, michael nutter. mayor nutter, it's been a long and difficult 24 hours for you, thank you very much for being with us. >> sure, thank you, rachel. >> you've been very good letting people know the status of the investigation. is this still a recovery operation? are you confident the cars have been searched, all the victims have been found. >> we are in a search and recovery mode. we want to make sure we have

accounted for all of the people that may have been on that train, as i think you were trying to indicate in your earlier segment, a number of people bought tickets, that does not necessarily mean that all of those individuals actually were on the train, we're trying to sort through all of that data and information using the amtrak manifest of customers, and people who bought tickets, versus the folks that we served, and transported last night. with incredible support by the philadelphia fire department, police department, ems personnel, septa, mass transit organization. there was a massive life saving operation last night. unfortunately, we did lose seven americans and for that, we are deeply sorry. >> in terms of the operations, do you have anything you need? is there anything else you need in terms of support or logistics is there more that you need that

you don't have? >> we have all the resources that we need, and we did get those -- what we call light cannons. we had to make sure the scene was secure and stable. that the train had cooled down and it was safe to have personnel at that part of the site but governor wolf has been here two nights in a row. we've had numerous members of congress both from the house and senate, the true bipartisan response to all of this, we have an incredible array of public

servants and agencies, local, state and federal working in partnership. we have all the resources we need, but we're going to continue the search and rescue. we can be sure that we have accounted for every person we think may have been on that train. >> in terms of why this happened? do we know if the locomotive engineer who's driving the train, do we know if he has spoken with investigators, if investigators have had the access to him that they want to have to him -- do we know -- he's got a key role in explaining what happened here, do we know what position he's at with regard to the investigation now? >> all i can tell you about the engineer is that he was injured, he was in the engine compartment. the video shows them separated from the rest of the train. he was injured but treated for his injuries. he then -- police did interview him.

and he was released. i don't know what he said, quite honestly what he may have said is, i don't want to say anything. and at that point we have to let the person go. as the investigation moves on, that situation may change, but at this point in time, i know that the ntsb and possibly other agencies at some point will want to talk with him, and hopefully he will cooperate. >> the ntsb process is a slow, scientific and deliberate one, it's part of the reason they speak with authority when they pronounce a cause when something like this happens. is it your feeling that everybody, including yourself, should wait until the ntsb has completed everything all together. do you think it would be safe to say what happened here, and why, and who is at fault if someone clearly is at fault? >> the first is as you said, the ntsb is the best at what they do, everyone respects their work, the thoroughness of their work, and it does take some time, what we have experienced,

they were on the ground about 4:00 or 5:00 a.m. this morning, 12 hours later they were putting out some very important factual information as a result of getting information from their event recorders or the black box. what was the speed of the train? what was the rating for speed at that curve. and talking about the ptc system and the like. that information came out pretty quickly, but the ntsb personnel indicated, and the board member on the ground they'll have a series of releases of information. we certainly want to have more information before any judgment. there are just some facts here. if you are going 106 miles an hour on a 50 mile an hour rated curve, you have to figure something bad is going to happen, and is a contributing factor to the devastation we saw and the loss of lives and all the injuries. we don't know exactly what else was going on, i don't know what

was going on with the engineer, did something else happen in the engine compartment, and all of those other questions remain to be answered. hundreds of people injured and traumatized by a horrific accident that clearly could have resulted in even greater loss of life. it's amazing that more than 200 people were able to walk away from that train accident last night. again, the graphic pictures that you have on your newscast, viewers can appreciate that it was very difficult for those passengers and they were still able, most of them to walk away. >> philadelphia mayor, michael nutter, thank you for your time. take good care of yourself through this, mr. mayor. >> sure, i will. >> thank you. there's much more ahead including a fix that

investigators are already saying would have prevented this crash and should have been in place any day now. it just wasn't there yet. it's incredible information and that's next.

there's specific news tonight not just on what went wrong in philadelphia, there's specific news about why this train crash wasn't prevented even though we know exactly how to prevent that kind of crash. we've also got other news coming up from outside this philadelphia story. there's a lot to come tonight. stay with us. [ jennifer garner ] why can't powerful sunscreen feel great? actually it can. neutrogena® ultra sheer®. its superior uva uvb protection helps prevent early skin aging and skin

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i will warn you on this subject i'm having a feeling. fair warning. here it goes. in september of 2008, the city of los angeles had its worst train accident ever, it was in l.a., this was some of the nbc news national coverage at the time of that accident. watch. >> the metro link commuter train may have been carrying as many as 350 passengers and it left los angeles less than an hour earlier, when it slammed into a freight train in chatsworth. this passenger was all the way in the back of the last car. people were flying, i was flying.

>> you can actually see the metro link engine pushed inside of the passenger car. it must have been a very traumatic crash. >> friends and relatives rushed to local hospitals. some learning their loved ones were lost. >> one of my uncles is really injured. >> there's no word yet how or why this happened except to note the obvious. there is only one track here, and horribly both trains were on it. >> both trains were on the one track. what happened in that metro link commuter train crash in l.a. in 2008, what happened there was human error. the engineer who was operating that commuter train missed a signal. the train was operating the way

it should have, the signaling system was operating the way it should have. there was nothing wrong with any part of the rail system, there was something wrong with the engineer. the engineer was on his cell phone, he was texting. because he was on his cell phone texting, he missed that signal that was telling him there was another train on the track ahead and he should not proceed down that track. he missed the signal, and that train he was driving, smashed on the freight train and 25 people were killed, 25 people killed, including the metro link engineer who was on his cell phone. 25 fatalities, a huge number of fatalities, right? more than 100 people injured badly enough to be taken to the hospital, it was the worst rail incident in l.a. history, we know why it happened. that was september 2008, by the following month, congress actually stepped up and did something to try to stop something like that from happening ever again. within five weeks of that crash, congress passed this act. it mandated that all rail lines in the u.s. would have to get just slightly more modern, not

like, you know, hydrogen powered cars and jet packs and futuristically hypermodern stuff, just some basic systematic safety upgrades that would take advantage of the fact that we are now a society that has things like computing machines and gps. this is not the most high-tech stuff. what they mandated for the u.s. rail system is something called positive train control. a very basic avoidance system that reduces stupid operator error or a train conductor having a heart attack at the engine. it reduces the chance that something unfortunate but human and predictable like that could result in a train derailment or train collision. basically, positive train control is a system that monitors speed limits and track signals, it signals to the train

engineer, if the train seems to have not noticed a signal or if the train is speeding, right? if the train engineer doesn't respond to that signal, positive train control can override the human. override that locomotive engineer and automatically slow the train down or stop the train by remote control. this sort of system does require equipment upgrades to trains, putting a lot of basic train infrastructure on the grid. it requires some gps technology. this is not like learning to live on mars, right? this is basic kind of atari level computerized safety systems for america's trains, and they passed that law five weeks after that terrible metro link crash in 2008 that killed 28 people in l.a. they set this cushy deadline of more than 7 years for our country to put this system in place. it's the end of this year,

december 31, 2015. and you know, the rail industry like every industry, they don't like being told what to do, they've been lobbying hard to push that deadline back even further. 7 years is too fast for them to implement that basic system nationwide, they want more time, more years, they have found a lot of sympathetic years in congress. even if congress doesn't extend it, if the existing 2015 deadline holds, the existing 2015 deadline was still too late for these poor people. this is a metro north commuter train crash that happened december 1st, 2013. i remembered that date, i didn't have to look it up today. one of the people who died in that train crash was a sound engineer who worked here at the "today" show, he was on the train that morning coming to work early, because he was going to be helping set up the broadcast for the delivery of the big rockefeller center christmas tree we get delivered here.

he worked at the today slow for 20 years, he was one of four people killed that morning in that train crash. it's a miracle that you more than four people didn't die. unlike the l.a. crash that had happened five years earlier, this one was one train crashing, it didn't hit anything. it was one train derailment, there are erie similarities between that metro north crash and what happened in philly. the train was the same size in l.a. and philly. it's a single train that doesn't appear to have hit anything else. but the trains derailed. both of these derailments happened on sharp curves in the tracks. the metro north crash happened

just north of manhattan at a curve in the river, it's called spiten ivel, it's technically in the bronx. a lot more people could have been killed in that crash, the aren't tracks curve is because of how close the rail line gets to the river there. when that train derailed, those cars -- see the water at the bottom of your screen. those cars went spilling toward the river. had they gone into the river, we may not just have seen blunt force trauma. we may have also seen drownings. both the metro north train and amtrak crash was on a sharp curve, in both of those cases we had trains traveling alone on a sharp curve and conclusively in

the case of the metro north crash of 2013, and at least preliminarily, it appears that the cause was the same. it appears that what caused the derailment was the train traveling at a very high rate of speed into a sharp curve. we do not yet know why that happened last night in philadelphia in this derailment that claimed seven lives already and may have claimed more. the ntsb determined that the aren't train engineer was speeding at more than 80 miles an hour, going into that 30 mile an hour curve was because the train engineer was tired. he wasn't necessarily completely asleep. he told investigators he was zoning out. he was the guy who had sleep apnea, so he didn't sleep well ever. he had gotten up at 3:30 that morning for his shift. he self-described the problem, he said he basically zoned out with his hand on the throttle, he was going 80 heading into that 30 mile an hour curve, and

more than 100 people were sent to the hospital and four people lost their lives. metro north had said they would eventually get around to installing this positive train control system. they were working on it, the positive train control system, would have overridden him zoning out on the tracks and slowed the train down. they were working on it, they were going to get that in place. this crash happened in 2013. the deadline wasn't until the end of 2015, well, so what was the rush. the ntsb concluded in that crash, had the positive train control system been in feekt on that december morning in 2013 when the rockefeller center christmas tree was being delivered, had that system been hurried up and put into effect, that train crash would have never happened and those people

would not have died. >> contributing to the accident was the absence of positive train control or ptc. all of these deaths and injuries were preventable. it would have prevented this derailment by automatically applying the brakes even when the engineer did not. the ntsb has called for the implementation of ptc. thankfully congress has mandated the use of this technology by the end of next year. thank you, congress. >> thank you, congress. but no rush. we are really good at investigating these kinds of disasters when they happen, we find out why they happen, and we then find out what would have presaented them from happening. positive train control, this little safety system we know how to do, it would have prevented that metro link crash in los angeles. it would have prevented this fatal commuter train crash in massachusetts. it would have prevented that metro north crash just north of manhattan. if it bears out that what happened last night in

philadelphia is that for some reason, heading into that 50 mile an hour curve, the train was being driven at over 100 miles an hour, and the brakes were applied way too late, only three seconds before the derailment flung those cars off the rails. it would have saved all of those lives in philadelphia. but the system's not in place yet. >> amtrak had been slowly getting that system in piece, getting the funding together. they have positive train control along some of the track. but not everywhere, not philly, not where the train crash happened last night, all of those people died. >> it is not installed for this area where the accident occurred, where the derailment occurred. that type of a system, we call 2 a positive train control system.

that type of system is designed to enforce the civil speed to keep the train below its maximum speed. and so we have called for positive train control for many, many years, it's on our most wanted list, congress has mandated that it be installed by the end of this year, so we are very key on positive train control. we feel that had such a system been installed, this accident would not have occurred. >> had the system been installed, this accident would not have occurred. this is not a mystery, and this is also not hard, this is not rocket science. this is not desalon ating the ocean. this is something we know how to do. we've done it in patches. we also know that we need to do it. it's no mystery here, but because what we need to do is something that we need to do concerning our nation's infrastructure, honestly, as a nation, we can't be bothered to

get stuff like this done. it's almost like our political system is designed to fail our infrastructure. i mean, the people, american people left, right and center want infrastructure investment. it's where we all agree that we should invest more in our infrastructure, we ought to upgrade our basic national infrastructure, especially around transportation, whether that's roads, bridges, highways, trains, airports, whatever, americans would like to see that stuff taken care of and improved, it seems like a core government function, we would all like to work. it benefits us all, politicians don't like voting for it. especially in cases like this rail safety stuff, where there are corporate interests who want it not to happen. on this positive train control thing, industry's been

complaining for years, even the seven-year rollout was far too quick for them. they're pushing in congress to not have to put the system in place until the year 2020. what's the rush? and it happens on all these issues, yesterday just hours before the amtrak derailment, the american petroleum institute sued to block new safety rules for oil trains specifically. they want more years before they have to retrofit unsafe cars that are being used to transport crude oil around the country. they want more time to deal with that, because the status quo is okay with them. it would require them to have an electronic braking system. it's not that different a safety concept than the whole positive a train control thing than rail more broadly. the people who make money shipping oil by rail, would prefer to do it as cheaply as possible. they're suing to not have to do

it, they don't mind things the way they are now, despite the occasional apocalyptic fireball, don't rush them, what's the hurry? the american people are voting with their feet, people want to ride the train, amtrak ridership has been going up and up and up, setting a new ridership record every year since the year 2000. even as an amtrak fan, i can tell you, the service has been getting worse, less on time, more expensive with each passing year, because the system is starved of funds and not getting any younger, and is a complicated moving piece of infrastructure, and we keep not investing and fixing it, but americans want to be able to travel this way, because we need this form of travel as a country. we just do. there's a reason every other can't in the world has this too, and mostly has it better. you need to be able to travel by train. just in the northeast corridor. for 2015, you need about $2.8 billion in terms of capital maintenance, they got about a billion dollar less than that this year to operate. today in the house, hours after this fatal amtrak derailment in

philly, which the ntsb says could have been prevented with these safety improvements we haven't gotten around to, hours after that crash today, an appropriations committee in the house, voted to cut funding for amtrak because they don't like voting for things like amtrak. there's no military about this disaster in l.a., there's no mystery about this disaster in new york. there's no mystery about this disaster in philadelphia, and what caused all of those lives in all of those places, there will be no mystery about the next one that happens, just like this. we know what we need to do it's just our government won't make it happen. one last thought on this, when we heard today first from anonymous sources that the speed of that train heading into the curve was over 100 miles an hour, there was this collective gasp, a horrified recognition among americans that that speed must have been what caused the crash, we're still awaiting the full investigation, the final results, when we heard today

this idea of the train going over 100 miles an hour, down the tracks through northeast philly, we almost intrinsically knew as americans that that spelled catastrophe, that something was wrong with that, 100 miles per hour? 106 miles per hour? clearly that was the problem, we knew it. between the cities of barcelona and madrid, the average train speed is 154 miles per hour. trains between tokyo and asaka go 200 miles an hour. for us, the richest, most powerful nation on earth, the average train speed on our northeast corridor which is our show piece for our high speed trains, our average speed is 68 miles per hour. we know if you go over 100 miles an hour, that will mean the engine and passenger cars will end up flying off the rails and crumbling like soda cans and

people will die, we can't handle that kind of speed here, we are a great nation that has allowed the world class infrastructure that our grandparents built to erode and suffer and starve to the point that it is decrepit and deadly. this is a failure of governance. this is on congress's head.

if you're going 106 miles an hour, on a 50 mile an hour rated curve, you have to figure something bad is going to happen. and is at least a contributing factor to the devastation we saw, and the loss of lives and all the injuries. >> michael nutter speaking on this show saying, speed in this case was at least a contributing factor to the devastation we're seeing tonight in philadelphia. joining us now is tom costello who's in philly, thanks for being with us. >> the mayor really kind of changed his tune over the last 90 minutes or so, earlier this

evening, he said the engineer had to be an idiot, he said the behavior was very risky and completely inappropriate. he really laid it down. he blasted the engineer, and then i witnessed what happened, what happened was the ntsb board member pulled him aside and said, you can't go down this road yet, you cannot be already judging the engineer, you can't be -- the entire scene of the judicial process here, we don't know if this engineer had a medical issue or there was something else going on that may have contributed to the crash. we don't know if there's a mechanical issue.

if the public at large wants to draw conclusions, that's up to the public at large. the ntsb simply gathers information, releases fak you'll information as it has it, but then ultimately it goes down this very methodical and scientific path that could take weeks, months or in some cases even more than a year, there's a very famous case about 18 to 20 years ago. and they thought they understand what the cause was, only to learn the engineer was diabetic, he couldn't see colors and wasn't seeing the change in the signals, but nobody knew that he was diabetic, he didn't tell anybody, his doctors didn't even know he was an engineer, it wasn't until they found the diabetic medicine did they realize what was the cause, so sometimes it's not what you see

right up front. >> in terms of all the investigation goes forward. talking to the engineer will be a key part of the investigation. he will be part of the way they investigate this. the ntsb saying, they haven't spoken to him yet. is it unusual they haven't talked to him yet? >> here's what's a little bit unusual. we are -- we heard from law enforcement sources they haven't been able to get an indepth interview there seems to be a little bit of gray, wig emroom in there. we're not sure if they have a very casual conversation with him at the hospital.

it's not unusual to wait a day or two, after the -- to get the emotions to settle down, he may want to consult with his attorney or union represent, you sit down at your union rep's office, and you have the formal interview with the ntsb. keep in mind the ntsb's investigation is not criminal, it is simply to figure out what happened, and try to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again. >> tom costello, that's very clarifying. thanks for helping us understand that. we appreciate it. are you so congested... it feels like that brick's on your face? try zyrtec®-d to powerfully clear your blocked nose and relieve your other allergy symptoms. so you can breathe easier all day. zyrtec®-d. find it at the pharmacy counter.

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this has been a jam packed news day, we're going to have the latest coming up on some of the days other stories, other than philly. a report of a vote late in the day by congress, that went under the radar. we'll have that story coming up. as well as the latest on the ground in philly. including the city's head of emergency management. she's here live in a moment. we first started to cover this story last night, we started to hear from the first survivors of the cash. as we got a sight of the crash

one of the worries is that there may still be survivors or bodies trapped in the cars. last night first responders

covered three bodies on the wrecked train, and two bodies from nearby. people who had been thrown from the train. one of the critically injured patients who had been taken to temple university hospital succumbed to his injuries. they discovered another body on the train, it brought the confirmed death toll from the train 7. this man was a senior vice president at wells fargo, jim gaines, justen zemzer, a young midshipman at the u.s. naval academy, he was heading back home to queens, new york where he was from. also, rachel jacobs, who was ceo

of a tech company. around 200 people were treated at philadelphia hospitals since the derailment, temple university in philly admitted the most people last night, they admitted 54 people last night, 23 of those 54 are still being treated now, including eight people who are currently lists in critical condition at temple. >> i was startled to hear, almost everyone had rib fractures. the rib fractures tell me they rattled around in the train cars a lot, to get a lot of rib fractures. >> how would you characterize this as a test. did it work out okay? >> yes, it did. i was pleased, things came together last night very well, in a few hours, the trauma team, the doctors and nurses that trained to do this, responded wonderfully, i think it was a test, and i think we passed it. >> the chief medical officer at temple university hospital, the hospital that's handled the lion's share of these injuries.

joining us now is samantha phillips, director of emergency management for the city of philadelphia. her office has been coordinating the city's response to the derailment last night. thank you for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> it's now almost exactly 24 hours since the crash. what right now is the most pressing. joining us now is samantha philips, director of emergency management for the city of philadelphia. her office has been coordinating the city's response to the derailment since last night. thank you so much for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> it's now almost exactly 24 hours since the crash. what right now is the most pressing thing that your office is working on right now? >> i'm happy to say that the problem has reduced greatly throughout the day.

we've had a lot of luck in matching these data sources. we do still have a few sources that we're working and making sure everyone is safely accounted for. those who haven't called into amtrak's 1-800 number. that's 1-800-523-9101. we want to make sure we hear from everybody if you're safe and with your loved ones. please let us know so we can move on and make sure we have everybody accounted for. >> not to press you too much, but are we talking about a ballpark, a hundred people or more than that, a dozen people or less than that? >> no. it's far less. we're sort of in the sort of high single digits, low double digits at this point just doing some final counting of people.

>> i have to ask, last night after the train derailed after it started to become clear how big of an incident this was, how did your office alert local hospitals that they were about to receive dozens of patients, maybe even hundreds of patients, people seeking treatments all at once. logistically, did you have a plan for how something like that worked? >> yeah. we had a couple of plans that we had to implement last night. coincidentally, we've been in the process of finalizing the city's mass casualty plan and monday we did a workshop and exercise for that plan. we were really well prepared for something that happened tuesday evening. we do many things, work onen with our fire department, provide notification to hospitals. once you see you have an incident the size we saw on tuesday night, it's really just about kind of launching the system, getting as many resources and services as possible. it's always easy to stand things down and recall things. but we wanted to make sure we had everything on scene to deal with and ended up being hundreds of people that needed some support. >> samantha philips, people watching you and others in philadelphia responding that there are kids all over the country thinking maybe i want to

be a director of emergency management at a city some day watching you do some crucial work at this time. thanks for your work and thanks for helping us understand. >> thanks very much. cause of their bad driving. people try all sorts of ways to get rid of them. [ driver panting ] if you're sick of paying more than your fair share... [ screams ] get snapshot from progressive, and see just how much your good driving could save you.

>> more ahead, stay with us. obviously, today's news dominated by the philadelphia amtrak crash. but a couple of things to get you up to date in terms of what else is going on in the news. we've had eyes all day today in texas where large swaths of that state are flooded and flooding as rain continues to lash texas. parts of texas got as much as 10 inches of rain over a three-hour period.

that was in one section of houston today. officials in north texas have decided to release water from some texas lakes in order to avoid breaching dams on those bodies of water trying to avoid catastrophic flooding from breached infrastructure there. national weather service issuing flash flood warnings for portions of texas all across that state. we're going to keep you posted on further developments as we keep watching that. in political news today, in washington late today, house republicans succeeded in passing their latest abortion ban. that was an almost 100% party line vote. they passed in the bill a ban to ban abortions nationwide federally after 20 weeks of pregnancy. it was a vote of 241-184. even if the bill does pass the senate, which is hard to believe that it would, this bill will

not become law under this president.

stay with us. it's been just over 24 hours since an amtrak train crashed in philadelphia. seven people were killed. investigators today said the train approached the 50 miles per hour curve going 106 miles per hour. the brakes were applied, but far too late. the train slowed to 102 miles per hour before the data recorder stopped recording because of the derailment and the crash. an ntsb official said today this accident could have been prevented with a system called positive train control could have been in place. that system is required by law everywhere in the u.s. by the

end of this year, but it wasn't in place yet at the site of this crash tonight. congress is giving railroads even more time before they have to put that system in place even though it's known now that it would save lives, including likely the lives lo place even though it's known it would save lives including, likely twrrk lives that were lost last night. "first look" is up next. it's thursday may 14th. coming up on "first look." 106 in a 50 zone. twice the speed limit. a report that the engineer doesn't remember the crash. also the people who lost their lives during the late night commute home. then do you know what it takes to get out of a train in an emergency. man higt people on the head. plus why is australia threatening to kill johnny dep's dog? prince harry performs a