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witt." we begin with the investigation into the fatal train derailment. the fbi has brought down damage to the train's windshield. during the news conference, the investigator reported what they found after reports that the windshield may have been hit with an unknown object. >> if you're standing in the middle of the locomotive cab, the center line over here is where the engineer's windshield is, over here is the other windshield, and in the lower portion of the left-hand windshield there's a circular pattern that emanates out just a bit. >> now an assistant amtrak conductor told investigators she recalled hearing an engineer from the local commuter rail tell the dispatch center his train had been hit by a rock or shot at and that the train made an emergency stop. the employee also says she recalls hearing amtrak engineer brandon bostian report something about his train being struck,

too. joining me from philadelphia is nbc's adam reese. what can you tell us about the interview with the engineer, brandon bostian? >> reporter: he's been very cooperative and offered to help in the future if needed. he says the last thing he remembers was ringing his bell passing through the north philadelphia station. he remembers nothing about the accident itself. he says he was not fatigued, he was not ill. this was a regular routine run for him. he went from new york to d.c. back to new york five days a week. now what is interesting is an assistant conductor report to the ntsb said she heard over her radio an engineer on a nearby train, a septa train running on a parallel track said he was hit by a projectile to damage his windshield. they found similar damage to the windshield of 188. now nbc spoke to a friend of bostian's yesterday.

here's what he had to say. >> he was clearly in shock. it sounded like the ever in shock. and he didn't understand what happened. if you're riding on the train this is the guy you would want to be your engineer. he had a knowledge of it and a passion for it and had a great record. >> reporter: now the ntsb says they can't draw any conclusions based on these interviews but they have made some progress. and finally, alex, the first lawsuit has been filed in this crash. and amtrak employees off-duty said he was thrown about the cab and suffered brain trauma. alex? >> quickly, with regard to the amtrak train, the trash location and the septa train where they may have been hit by something is it the same area? >> reporter: yes, it was nearby on a parallel track. and we have also learned nbc news has learned that an amtrak train also in that area was hit by some sort of a projectile.

we learned that from a passenger on that train. >> yikes. adam reese, thank you so much for that from philadelphia. we'll have much more on the derailment of amtrak train 188 in a few minutes. i'll speak with the former chairman of the ntsb and ask how this latest development changes the course of the investigation coming up. meantime breaking news out of egypt where a court sentenced ex-president mohomad morsi to death. more than 100 other members of the muslim brotherhood were also given the death penalty sentence for the jailbreak. more reaction to the death penalty decision made by jurors in the boston marathon bombing trial. the jurors unanimously voted friday that dzhokhar tsarnaev be put to death for his crimes. four people died in the attack in the aftermath. more than 200 were injured. nbc justice correspondent pete williams has more. >> reporter: dzhokhar tsarnaev becomes the first person in the u.s. sentenced to death for an

act of terrorism in nearly two decades. since timothy mcveigh was executed for bombing the oklahoma city building in 1995. >> we sent a message a strong message that we're not going to tolerate terrorism. and i think whether you agree with the death penalty or don't i think the message sends that they are not going to blow up our marathons or blow up our city. >> reporter: the jury unanimously said he should face the death penalty for the victims of the bomb he placed, 8-year-old martin richard and lindsey liu, but not for the death of crystal campbell planted by the brother of his, tamerlan. the jury rejected the defense claim that tsarnaev was the junior partner less responsible for the bombings. tsarnaev never took the stand in his own defense and showed no emotion when the verdict was read later he slumped in his chair as he has throughout the trial. victims and family members listened in solemn silence as

the verdict was read. among them the parents of martin richard who said nothing afterward. they publicly opposed the death penalty after tsarnaev was found guilty last month. this woman who lost both of her legs in the accident said she was happen pip withy with the verdict. >> once the verdict came in it was like, okay now we can start from here. and go forward and really feel like it's behind us. >> reporter: sidney corcoran who nearly bled to death and whose mother lost both legs tweeted my mother and i think now he will go away and now we'll be able to move on. justice, in his own words an eye for an eye. and a firefighter michael ward put it this way. >> he's going to go to hell, that's where he wanted to go but he'll get there quicker than he thought. >> reporter: tsarnaev will be moved to a prison in doon sentenced to die in the lethal injection chamber, but it has

not been used for a dozen years. 44 criminals executions have been delayed due to the shortage of drugs used for capital punish. meantime, they are hoping to reduce this sentence to life. >> this is going to last a decade or more. we'll be hearing about this case for many years to come. >> that was pete williams reporting. 74 people have been sentenced to death since the federal death penalty was reinstated in 1988. only three have been executed. in other news now the nepal army says the remains of all soldiers have been recovered at the site of the marine helicopter. it was carrying six u.s. marines and two nepalese soldiers helping with earthquake relief efforts. >> a grade schooler in louisville, kentucky, is recovering after being dragged down the street by a school bus. the spokesman said the student was exiting the bus friday when her backpack got stuck in the driver

door. the driver drove 100 feet before he realized what was going on. >> really i don't see how he knew the girl was dragging. it was amazing i couldn't believe her bouncing around in the door all the way down the street. it was bad. >> the child suffered road rash but is expected to be okay. and general motors is unveiling the new addition of the chevy canmero today. he's the vehicle in camouflage before unveiled in detroit. let's go now to the weather and some nasty storms in the plains. and check this out. that was just some lightning and thunder seen and heard in western nebraska. pretty noisezy there but it wasn't all a light show. wow, that same area slammed with hail. some of these hailstones were two inches in diameter. the area also saw minor flooding. more storms are expected today

and tonight and renynolds wolf is here with the latest. the big threat we are watching this morning involves the upper level low in the jet stream. what we'll be dealing with today are these features but also something else. a lot of moisture coming in from the gulf of mexico. and we have looked into the daytime heating and the varying wind directions with height. we'll have a chance for a lot of storm development and with this come rotating storms. we are talking super cells. from the central plains to the northern plains, you also have the threat of tornadic activity. we're talking a lot of area that will be affected. i looks like the worst of it could be late afternoon into the evening. in some locations, maybe overnight. other spots may have some variety in thunderstorms but the heavy stuff through central and southern plains. you can see the tor:cons many of them from 5 to 6. some places a bit less, but still the threat is ramped up by the afternoon. a lot of folks have to be ready today with the severe weather in

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a new development in the derailment train that killed eight people and injured 200 others. investigators are looking into whether a flying object struck the wind shield before it derailed. the engineer says he has no memory of what happened in the events leading up to the derailment, but an assistant conductor said she heard the engineer say on the radio that the train had been struck. >> our investigation is not

independently confirmed with this information but we have seen damage to the left-hand lower portion of the amtrak windshield that we have asked the fbi to come in and look at for us. >> joining me now former chairman of the ntsb, jim hall. jim, with a welcome to you, what do you make of this report that perhaps something hit the train's windshield before the crash? >> well, alex, it's another piece of information, important, obviously, to the investigation. but it does not negate the fact that positive train control would have overread any type of human error that might have occurred and slowed this train and prevented this accident. >> yeah. jim, are you drawing parallels to the people who take the laser-type lights and shoot them up at air cockpits and try to

blind the pilot, or people dropping things over the overpass, is this the kind of thing we're talking about? >> unfortunately, things like that have resulted in transportation tragedies. they're not obviously, common. everything in the situation is important as this accident investigation is with the loss of so many lives and the injury of so many people. everything needs to be looked at very closely. >> if this is, though, a valid component, would that explain why the train was going so fast? could it be that the engineer was knocked out or something was shattered or distracted? would the train have sped up in the amount of time that it happened. does that make sense to you? >> well that will all have to come out in the investigation, alex. anything at this time is

possible. since we do not have a camera in the cab and do not know exactly what the actions of the operator were at the time of the event. >> what about just general procedures? are amtrak engineers and employees trained to handle a flying object? would that be part of the training? >> well, they certainly are aware of it. unfortunately, it's -- while it's not a common occurrence, it's something that does occur. and i would imagine an engineer or conductor would be prepared. now, if something hits a windshield, it certainly might have caused the operator to be startled. but we don't know what then his actions might have been as a result of the event like that if it did occur. >> jim you have heard reports of a local septa train there reportedly being hit by objects around the same area.

it also happened with the express train run by amtrak. window damage in that one. so does this all have to factor into the investigation? >> well, yes. and the ntsb has asked the fbi's forensic experts to look at this damage portion which i think was the left portion of the windshield to determine exactly what caused the accident. a result of the engineer or projectile of some sort. again, all these factors are on the ground here and to be developed as part of the investigation. could the case be intentional sabotage? >> that's speculation at this point but everything has to be examined. and particularly if there's

allegations or information as has come forward in the interviews, that has to be looked at and included into the information. >> how frustrating could it be for the ntsb when they have been talking to the engineer but he does not remember the moments leading up to the cash, he remembers reach inging up to grab his cell phone. is there other information you need from the engineer? >> all of that is, of course, will be developed as -- again, as part of the investigation. but let me emphasize this.

i believe that anything could have happened to result in this. >> thank you for your time. >> thank you alex. and presidential candidate hillary clinton and former president bill clinton shows that the clintons have earned $30 million since january 2014. $25 million from speaking fees and the other $5 million from hillary clinton's book "hard choices." good morning, phillip. this is not unexpected news with the earning power well-known, but what specifically surprised you about the filing? >> i think the scale. i think the scale caught most people off guard. "the washington post" did a lot of intentions particularly on the speeches she has given. and i think the fact that the

two of them made that much has surprised most. >> yeah. and the fact of one day tuesday this week people may be surprised that former president clinton got $500,000 in one day giving two speeches. i was trying to break it down with my algebraic skills, good grief. in terms of the context of this presidential race, how will this matter, if at all? >> people already know the clintons have done fairly well the past few years. at the extent to which they have raised money off the fact that bill clinton is former president. but he's fairly well-known but it's going to be hard.

she earned over $200,000 for a speech with 50 recorded speeches. that's a remarkable amount of money and it's going to be hard for people not to stop and say, how are you going to be my champion as someone from the middle class if this is the money you make. >> she announced back on april 12th. she's not taking too many questions from the media. is it unusual for presidential candidates? >> we actually made -- he actually made a huge amount in three weeks. if you look at the republican opponents, they are filled with questions from the media because they are still trying to get their name out and jockeying against all each other. hillary clinton is in the unusual position being extremely well-known and having the ultimate result right now. there's no need for her to answer questions from the media.

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in today's three big money headlines, consumer concerns save or spend and pop out. we'll begin with consumer concerns, what is the troubling sign that just came up? >> the consumer confidence index. the early read on may is that

it's plummeted to a seven-month low down below where it was in april and way down from where it was at the top of the year. so why is that? it's a little bit puzzling when you look at other times of recovery, other times of higher confidence. and it probably tracks back to wages. if you think they are highly correlated, what makes me more confident, a bigger paycheck. despite the 5.5% in unemployment, wages have not kicked in. until they do that makes people hesitant. >> consumer spending we talk about what people have saved from the dropping gas prices. in fact, it's a dollar a gallon less than a year ago. but what are people doing with the money? >> similar phenomenon. they are calling it a $150 billion tax cut but where did all the money go? people aren't spending it because guess what? they already spent it and now they are using it to pay down debt. in some cases, to save money. but if you think about that a little bit as well in times

that are really bad, you ask people and they ignore their debt. so it's a constructive process. it's like the home maintenance you have to do on your home versus the regular improvement, there's so much talk about a lag with gas prices this year not kicking in for consumer spending until next year. that's the delay. which fast food chain is now following all the recent dairy trends? >> dairy queen. 6400 franchises known for things like oreo blizzards are taking soda off the menu for kids. there's a lobbying effort to make this happen and it comes from parents who say i don't want to take my kids some place and say no. take it off the menu. the irony is that berkshire hathaway is the parent company owner and warren is a big cherry coke fan and the largest

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treated for that after the accident was he hit by a projectile and incapacitated just as the train was speeding up? this morning new questions about the chain of events tuesday night. minutes before amtrak train 188's derailment, a pennsylvania regional septa train reported it had been hit by a rock or shot at damaging the front windshield. on friday the ntsb said it had also found something unusual on the windshield of the derailed amtrak train. >> we have seen damage to the left-hand lower portion of the amtrak windshield. that we have asked the fbi to come in and look at for us. >> reporter: was amtrak 188 also hit with a projectile before it crashed? that's what an assistant conductor told investigators she thought she heard engineer brandon bostian say on the radio, but bostian told investigators he doesn't remember the accident or what led up to it. >> he reported that he does not

have any recollection of anything past north philadelphia. >> reporter: bostian also said he was not sick or tired. it's still not clear why the train kept speeding up. 16 seconds before the crash 100 miles per hour. then 106 when bostian slammed on the emergency brakes. one of bostian's close friends said he was watching coverage and then called bostian and spoke to him from the e.r. >> he was in shock and didn't understand. his memory was very fuzzy. he had a hard time remembering things. >> reporter: meanwhile in new york on friday, funeral services for the youngest victim, 20-year-old naval academy shipman justin zemser. >> there are many questions on why but it's about celebrating justin's wake today. >> reporter: and a wake today for laura, a 44-year-old executive on her way home from

washington. the ntsb the reconstructing the train as part of their investigation. in addition, amtrak is hoping they can get service back up and running between philly and new york on tuesday. alex, back to you. >> tom, what is your read on the ntsb's report of their talk with the train's engineer? because didn't they say he was very cooperative? >> reporter: very cooperative and offered to come back. he was sitting with his attorney, and that's very common in these incidents. he also turned over his cell phone to the police immediately after the accident. and this is also a guy who had been very active we believe, on on line train forums in which he was passionate about safety and complained about safety lapses and wanted more positive train control and technology on the rail lines. so for him to be involved in this kind of an incident is really just a striking set of circumstances or coincidences.

and now you can understand why we always caution people of those of us who cover these accidents, don't jump to conclusions early on because very often something comes in to the picture that changes everything. and so weapon don't know where this is going to lead. >> tom costello from philadelphia, thank you. tuesday's deadly amtrak derailment brought new attention to this country's crumbling infrastructure. vice president joe biden spoke at the kickoff of a week-long congress on the state of america's infrastructure. the vice president described the situation in this country as critical. >> there's two things we need to get to this modern infrastructure. it needs to be modern because it is not now. it is not now. it is not now. we rank 28th in the world in transportation infrastructure. the united states of america ranks 28th in the world in terms

of a modern infrastructure. >> we'll bring in phillip hanow, you heard the vice president say and repeat three times that we are not now in a good position. was he overstating the problem? >> no not at all. the infrastructure of america is 50 to 100 years old. it's decrepit power lines and bridges, water mains over 100 years old. so, no we are living on our great grandparents investments and it's time to redo it. >> we don't know exactly what caused tuesday's train derailment, but it is well-known that many parts of amtrak's bridges and infrastructure are more than 100 years old. the technology to automatically slow trains exceeding unsafe

speeds is in place but why not on the busiest rail corridor? >> yeah i mean, amtrak is sort of a net with a lot of blame to go around. the capital expenditures are underfunded, but one of the biggest hurtles is a bureaucracy to make it hard to spend money. the amtrak has been trying to finish its positive train control in the northeast corridor, which is the one place it is really needed for several years now. and it got bogged down because no one had authority to get the wireless service from the private carriers along the track. so you have this -- this organization amtrak that has been asked to serve too many masters, asked to provide service from chicago to dallas. they waste hundreds of millions of dollars on that. meanwhile, they left the one place where it is vital, the northeast corridor, go lagging.

>> here's something interesting you where. congress pretends not spending money is prudent but continued delays on the dangers is also costly. the longer we wait the more the infrastructure will cost. give us some examples. what is it going to take for congress to act? >> well, lots of examples. for the power grid, for example the archaic power grid the transmission lines, they waste 7% of the electricity. that's about $30 billion of electricity every year. it also hurts the environment because that's the equivalent of 200 coal burning power plants spewing carbon out into the air every year because no one has authority to actually approve the new transmission line. there's a question of money but it's a question of the ten-year-long bureaucratic practices because we have a government where nobody can make a decision anymore. >> and other parts of the aging infrastructure, you have roads,

waterways and bridges even just here locally the bayon bridge and williamsburg bridge is exponentially more expensive to repair something that doesn't need repair than a decade ago. >> that's right. so with the williamsburg bridge, because of decades of non-maintenance, it cost $800 million to potentially rebuild that bridge. it should have cost about $80 million. so that's a huge waste of money. the bayon bridge they needed to raise the roadway so a new generation of ships can come into the newark harbor. the project had no environmental impact the same foundation, but it took five years a 5,000-page environmental assessment and all the studies to get approval to do what was completely obvious. and when you wake that long it is almost doubling the cost. >> phillip howard, the chair of

common good thank you so much for weighing in appreciate that. >> thank you alex. california has been getting a lot of attention for its drought, but now the governor of the state of washington has declared a state of emergency and says it will only get worse. drought conditions stem from a historically low snow pack in the mountains. the melting of the snow provides water to many areas. the state will offer financial incentives to farmers to forego planting crops to save precious water. we are just hours away from the running of the preakness stakes and a new shot at the triple crown. kentucky derby winner american pharoah is set to run from a tactical disadvantage. the purse is $1.5 million. and the big question will american pharoah become the first horse since affirmed back in 1978 to win the crown? well joining me now, nbc sports reporter donna barton from the racetrack. let's talk about pharoah, who

drew the number one spot randomly. put into perspective how this is? >> reporter: the one post position is not ideal. as soon as i saw that, i heard that and thought that he would have a knot in his stomach until the end. because of the scratches, he was in the 16 post position and said i never broke that far out. so actually victor espinoza is looking forward to starting closer to the rail this time. but typically it's not ideal. >> he's a framed trainer and people know that. but for the first time since 2009, the top three finishes in the kentucky derby are running in the preakness, including a lot of attention who is the big favorite? >> the favorite is american pharoah.

he is 3-5 right now as of the close of wagering yesterday. surprisingly, dortmund was 7-2, which is like 3.5-1 in the morning line. he's 8-1 right now, he's not getting much action, but they do like firing line who closed yesterday 5-2. he was 4-1 in the morning line. so he's 2.5-1 alex. >> like the derby, bob has two horses running what kind of a conflict does that create? >> reporter: well, you know, the thing is i think the two who are on his team want to be on bob baffert's team. not really a conflict. he'll tell both of the jockeys, ride your race, try to win the race and we'll see what happens. but it looks like the americans think american pharoah will be

the better of the two today. >> you get to talk to the jockeys, you are a jockey having been one who is your favorite? >> i think it's going to be awfully tough to be american pharoah. anyone who wins this race has to hope that american pharoah falls through or stubs his toe. but i have watched him train here since being in baltimore this week. all the horses when they run in the kentucky derby, it's like running a 26-mile marathon for a human being. they are going to lose a little weight so you want to see them put the weight back on. american pharoah put the weight back on and has trained well here. so he'll be the horse to beat and he's the favorite. i can't give you a long sheet to beating him alex. we'll watch the preakness stakes at 2:30 on nbc sports

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more now on the presidential race for 2016. knowing what we know now about iraq, would jeb bush have gone ahead with the war? >> i would have. >> i interpreted the question wrong, i guess. i was talking about given what people knew then, would you have done it rather than knowing what we know now? rewriting history is hypothetical. i respect the question, but if we're going to get back to hypotheticals, i think it does a disservice for a lot of people that sacrificed a lot. here's the deal if we are all supposed to answer hypothetical questions, knowing what we know now, what would you have done? i would have not engaged, i would not have gone into iraq. >> joining me once again political reporter for "the washington post," phillip bump. with a welcome back why did this evolve over the week like it did and is this now over for jeb bush or something that could become an obstacle and fodder

for republican rivals? >> there's no question that it will continue. i mean, part of the challenge for jeb bush is that he's a bush. to his great chagrin he'll have to be responsible for what his brother did as president. i think the reason it lasted all week was simply he was not prepared to give an answer to this question which he should have been prepared to give an answer to this question. everyone expected this question to come. and jeb bush just sort of answered. and the key in politics is to keep the answers brief and he did not do that and said more than he aught to have and then had to keep explaining himself and just sort of made a mess of it. >> okay. speaking with the presidential candidates out there former gop presidential nominee, mitt romney, squaring off in a boxing ring last night. there's him boxes against evander holyfield. it was for charity and raised a million dollars, in fact. ann romney said he loved to be part of mitt's posse but here's

my question to you why? >> it's great he raised all this money, but more importantly he raised awareness for this charity vision which is a great charity to help people with their eyesight. and it really is if you're going to be in the public eye, he was in the public eye earlier about running and that didn't go well. so he's willing to put himself out there and be fun. i think it's great. he's fun. >> he's in great shape to be in the ring. >> he's 68 that's amazing. >> kuddos, phillip pump, thank you so much. grim news from iraq where isis is rampaging through one key city. what is the iraqi military doing to stop it? ...and takes the wheel right from your very hands... ...this isn't that car. the first and only car with direct adaptive steering. ♪ the 328 horsepower q50

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president obama met with the leaders of the gulf states. >> always a pleasure to talk with you. let's get into it. i want an update with you. how much critical area has ice isis takeb over and is iraq as a whole at risk? >> it shows this ramadi case in which iraq thought it had well secured in anbar. now you see isis bouncing back and what whack a mole problem ielsz isis is. the government and the iraqi army have made progress in some places. they hope to have a larger spring summer offensive later in the year. but isis is able to shift and move around and come back to places that the government thought that it had already secured. >> that whack a mole a great description there. isis sent out an audio tape from

baghdadi. he called isis a spear head in a broader battle. do you read this as a call to arms, a sign of weakness is it support or momentum? >> i think a lot of people didn't know if al baghdadi was still alive. there were rumors he had been killed. this was a proof of life video to sort of say i'm here. i matter and i can still create havoc around the world. the second element we need to take seriously is he's still calling on foreign recruits to come to what they see as their future caliphate and fight on the front lines there. if people can't come there they should take up arms wherever they are and go after infidels. this has raised a lot of problems with concerns about sleeper isis activists that themselves self-select to be motivated and animated by

baghdadi's call and go out and kill people. that is something we're beginning to see. just with the texas arrests in mesquite, texas, this week. another man had allegedly said he'd gone out and wanted to sign and isis and go to syria and fight with him. we're seeing greater activism in the united states. >> let's talk about the camp david meeting. here is president obama afterwards. take a listen. >> because of the depth and breadth of our cooperations and our partnerships, we've been able to strengthen each other and work together. to counterterrorism, to deal with issues like nuclear proliferation. >> the president mentioning nuclear proliferation. the question is how real is the prospect of these arab states racing to acquire a nuclear weapon if iran is not stopped?

>> i think even if iran is stopped they will have some form of nuclear capacity. the saudis have flirted with the notion they need to amp up their nuclear engineering programs, their potential capacity in knowledge infrastructure down the road. if iran is not in fact curtailed from a kind of nuclear course and a nuclear weapons course, i think it's highly likely you'll see proliferation around the world. it is a very important cause in trying to curtail iran. even that doesn't mean as we saw in pakistan and india there are other drivers in people's nuclear ambitions and wanting to climb up the power ladder. i think what the president is trying to do is restore an commons to nuclear proliferation. >> thank you for joining us. that is a wrap up.

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