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t like armored vehicles and grenades launchers to local police are now bansed. and will esser military-style equipments will be more strictly regulated. let's bring in senior political reporter perry bacon, reporting from iowa today. nice to see you. >> good to see you krystal. >> tell us about the choice of locke and also the timing here. wise institute these reform now. >> this is a big announcement. if you remember in december after post-ferguson there was a discussion about should the police have all these weapons. they had humvees armed vehicles, things like that. the white house in december said they did a short study and concluded that these weapons were okay, there wasn't a big concern, some police weriology them appropriately. so they've kind of changed views on that. the policy now basically says you cannot get these weapons unless they're mostly banned
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and the only way is if you, your mayor or city if council has to sign off on the police getting these weapons. that's a big change. there's been a lot of concern about the mill tarization of police. camden was picked in part, because it's been doing other parts of the police reform agenda. and what camden has agreed to do along with 19 cities, they're going to collect more data. police who were stooped were overwhelmingly black in ferguson, and by having more data, police will be able to see more. to that point the president is highlighting what camden has done. it seemed like when violence was rising in 2013. they totally dismantled the entire camden police department. the president hit on this, murder down over 40%, and a drop
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in the number of homicides and -- all down by 21%. is there political molt investigation now to say this is an example of where we can make inroads in places like ferguson? >> yes. i think there's two different issue toss talk about. i think on one of them, there is some amount of progress. that would be beyond the change of criminal justice in terms of having less focus on arresting for on south carolina very republican, this idea of body cameras on police officers, for example, so you're seeing shall changes in policing that the president talked about talked about ways to alleviate poverty talked about can see in community are our kids. in terms of fighting poverty, i would argue the parties are still very different. the republicans are talking a
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lot about fatherhood and responsibility, while the president and hillary clinton are talking pre-k, and spending more on. >> i like the notion of poverty being brought in. there's a lot of things that need to go into improving relationship between police and communities. the white house is talking about banning armored vehicle, grin gale launcher tactical vehicles. it says that they want to see police and black communities have -- who are in black communities have a less militarized presence which many people have said has been part of the problem, but these are merely the items used in policing and perpetuating the war on drugs. i don't yet here a significant desire to significantly change or even end the war on drugs, which puts the police in position to use these military
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equipment and tactics. do you hear any desire to actually end or significantly change the war on drugs? >> i do hear that from two corners. first of all, the administration let by eric holder had this initiative called smart on crime. the idea is they were encan ughing prosecutors to asking for less time. they have done that all right in terms of -- to focus less a prosecutes drug crimes. you've heard people like rand paul and hillary clinton both talk about a way to end this era, we need to fight more against drug crimes. there's talk in congress about having a big comprehensive bill that would wind down some penalties on some drug crimes. that has not pause yet. there's a part of the republican caucus and candidates like scott walker, who are still concerned about that and don't want to wind down the war on drugs just yet.
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you saw hillary clinton's speech about that but the issue las not moved completely yesterday. there was also some states that have not moved either. >> to toure's points, a lot of the questions is what are you enforcing. in the eric garner case they are enforces a prohibition on loose cigarettes, that resulted in death. that's different from enforces gun laws where if you're dealing with violence, that can beget some kind of force. i want to real from the report itself to give viewers a sense of the details here. the report says though grenade launchers keg used to launch tear gas their use and misuse can be detrimental to maintaining public trust in law enforcement and other devices are available to launch tear gas. the report continues camouflage pattern uniforms another example of equipment that's closely associated with the military. what struck me about this in the
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report perry, was that it's 2015 and it seems like just the feds here are just starting to think through some of these implications, like you don't need a task force to sort of explore the idea that foreign military camouflage has bakley no logical nexus with urban policing. >> ari, you're right. on the other hand we've had decades of focus on how to make the police stronger, how do we fight crime in the mo aggressive way possible? in new york there's a big fighty leaders are asking mayor de blasio, can you do more to stop the aggressive policing in new york. we've had a bipartisan -- this has been a long time around the idea that cities are a problem and aggressive policing is needed yet you've had cities for a couple decades adding on additional equipment as if they're policing war zones. my guess is it will be the next administration will also have to
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take on the idea that the police are not the military american cities are not war zones. i know it seems obvious, but a lot of people learn about the military for the first time in ferguson, and political leaders are just getting behind this. also, a final point, it's hard to take away money from local police departments or equipment, because those police -- there's a lot of cities and congress is very reluctant to pull back any from cities. >> that's a great point, perry. as we're having this conversation nationally there's been a lot of talk about cops being required to wear video k578 are cameras so we can see everything that happens. the white house anoned they're going to spend $75 million over the next three years to buy 50,000 cameras. this obviously goes beyond the obama years to whoever is next in the administration. is this something supported across the board politically or is there a debate mere? >> there is some debate about the privacy and what do you do with the video from it?
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the big thing to note here is the white house is saying we're going to pay for 50,000 police cameras. there are more than 400,000 police officers in the country. so we're still talking about a drop in the bucket in terms of getting this money. the cities i talk to is say the expense is to things. b @ng the cameras themselves and also storing the data. if every officer is filming everything they do there's a lot of data that has to be stored. you still have to figure out, they like the idea of body cameras, but so far you're not getting a economiesment of money behind it. . >> way that they have shiftside really remarkable. i know you are in iowa today. tell us what you are up to. saturday at a big forum where the candidates were here, and i'm staying, because i'm headed to where hillary clinton will be speaking in cedar falls on tuesday.
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we're hoping hopefully she'll take some questions from the press. >> it's been a while. >> it has been a while. but i've learned that jeb bush is saying he will be committed to campaigning in iowa, and he'll have a tough time. the activists i talk to are very wary of bush. scott walker is definitely the front-runner, more of a conservative. so it's going to be a challenge for bush but i talked to him, and he actually told me i'm a competitive person and i'm determined to win, and i think i can win here. that's a big statement from jeb bush bush. remember hillary clinton thought about not campaigning here decided to campaign after all, and then lost. that's a big problem. if you lose to scott walker or -- that will be damaging. >> yeah iowa matters. from what we can see, the weather looks really good in that photograph behind you,
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perry. >> thanks for having me guys. >> perry bacon coming up a big weekend in the fight against isis and the news is mixed also ahead the fallout from the biker brawl in texas, including a big-time punishment for the restaurant where it all went down first the nation's busiest rail line gets back on track, as the investigation takes a new turn "the cycle" is rolling on for monday maybe 18th. hello! this little beauty here is top-of-the-line. see, you just pull like this to go left. and like so to go right. where are the brakes? uh, just grab ahold of both and pull straight back. and the "whoa!" is optional. you wouldn't buy a motorcycle without handlebars. no thanks. and you shouldn't ride a motorcycle without geico insurance. roadside assistance, 24 hour service, great rates. geico motorcycle. see how much you could save. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis like me and you're talking to your rheumatologist
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claiming victory. isis has reclaimed ramadi, the first major victory since coalition strikes began last fall. some appear this is a repeace of last summer when iraqi forces put down their arms. the obama administration is confident that the eye will not last. >> and their movements by and large most certainly where there are air patrols and other capacities have been reduced but that's not everywhere. and so it is possible to have the kind of attack we have seen in ramadi but i am absolutely confident in the days ahead, that would be reversed. >> despite those gains the task force running "operation
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inherent resolve" says it's on the offensive, but it's not a sign of organizational weakness but that isis intends to preserve its holdings while still expanding elsewhere. elite american delta force teams carried out of the first successful raid inside syria capture a top -- and recovered a treasure trove of cell phones laptons and isis documents. it devolved into hand-to-hand combat, but not a single soldier was injured. >> diane fine tine so-called it picture perfect for its efficiency abu sayyaf was a top money man who oversaw oil and gas operations. we have bill neely in london. bill, what have you got? >> good afternoon, guy also. a decade ago hundreds of american troops gave their lives
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to take and hold the city of ramadi. today it has been taken and being held by the world's biggest terror organization, isis. they took it rather easily after a two-day battle in which iraq security forces certainly did not cover themselves in glory. after a brief fire fight they fled, their military vehicles seen retreating from ramadi at some speed. they simply collapsed exactly as they had under a year ago when mosul, the other provincial capital isis now holds, was came up further and iraqi troops did the same thing. they simply put down their weapons and fled. ramadi a very significant victory for isis. it can now control supply routes to syria, it can threaten baghdad just 70 miles away more effectively. it has more weapons from those retreating troops, and momentum, which in any war is vital. you can see on that map the scale of that area that isis
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either controls or dominates. was it a surprise? probably not, because the west of iraq has held by isis for about a year and a half. ramadi was effectively surrounded, so really it shouldn't come as a surprise that the city was taken but was it a disaster? yes. and not just for the iraqi forces. american airpower had poujded isis positions around ramadi for weeks, and yet city isis took the city which leaves huge question marks about the effectiveness of u.s. airpower. you simply cannot win this war from 30,000 feet but it doesn't look like this is a war that can be won by the iraqi army. there are estimates that it only has five combat effective brigades that's 15,000 plen against an isis fighters who are now on the attack, on the offensive, and now threatening baghdad. back to you guys.
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>> all right. nbc's bill neely, thank for you that. for more on the successful raid that eliminated a key isis leader inside syria, we bring in jim miklaszewski, again live at the pentagon. the dod me have felt very confident in order to send commandos deep inside syria. >> that's right, the intelligence was right on the mark, by the way. when those two dozens delta force commandos landed outside a building there in eastern syria, they knew exactly who they were going after and where he would be located. and that was abu sayyaf. isis' top financier their oil and gas man, who if head would have been captured alive would have been able to provide them with endless intelligence valuable intelligence presumably, but in the fire fight, intense fire fight in which we're told there was hand-to-hand combat, and one of the delta force commandos had to kill his attacker with his bare
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hands, that's the kind of fight that was going on inside that building. when they got to the room where abu sayyaf was located, he had a gun or went for a gun, and the commandos were forced to shoot him, regrettably according to the officials. they still have his wife in custody, but she will be turned over for iraqis at some point. now, again where they think they failed in this manages is they didn't grab their target alive but nevertheless all escaped none of the americans wounded or killed. even on the way out their helicopters took some heavy fire, but to no avail as far as isis was concerned. >> jim miklaszewski, thanks for that. here with us lieutenants colonel anthony shaffer. he is now a senior fellow at the
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london center for policy research. also with us, lathe al kouyy at flash point global partners. tony, we start with you. >> sure. >> does isis have the upper hand? >> they do. and i think it's a mixed bag we need, from the guys to brake their political will. we have not done that well. also, we have to top the offensive so the other side of this is ramadi. no good news there. keep in mind we've been training eight iraqi brigades for the past year, and now we're down to six or less and i think the problem is we have no daylight ahead of us. they don't know what they're going to do. i was talking to an iraqi official yesterday, one of the prime ministers, they don't know what they're going to do regarding the next line of defense. you've got to do something different. i think you have to take the
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pesh, use them as an internal force and we have to figure out a way to go forward. >> there was a lot that happened over the weekend, one of them was the killings of one of the key isis leaders sayyaf. psychologically this is a win for the u.s. it feels good, makes is feel more at ease we were able to locate and kill one of their leaders. the question is is this key enough that isis has been weakened? "new york times" has a piece about this saying he was actually a mid level leader. one terrorism analyst compared him to an al capone accountant. s. >> instead i believe isis victory in iraq is 100 if not 1,000 times bigger than the victory we achieved in syria, taking out this leader. isis is achieves victory on multiple front, and we have
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victories on just a few. i think taking him out is important and using that money to buy weapons and finance its operations, but he is easily replaceable. they have thousands of accountants who can manage this paperwork, and they don't need somebody who is extremely knowledgeable about the oil industry in order for them to -- >> i'm interested if you agree with that assessment that he's not particular what areally a high-level high-level, what does that say about the kind of intelligence and the quality of sbem gens that we now have on isis? >> it's improving. it has to get better i agree this guy may be mid level, maw not as important as some guys, like baghdadi. to defeat eye says, they have to identify and then defeat the
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network. this is the first step of identifying the network. once you understand how it functions, it's more easy to defeat it. this is not a drone war. we have to good about this very carefully. i disagree with john kerry. this is not about reducingç isis. this is about defeating isis. we're losing on most other fronts though. >> leit thismt, according to some officials, this was a tactical success, which many would welcome and it was also a targeted ground operation. if this is the model and we want to do more at what point would it behoof our operations and the people out there risking their lives on our behalf to have supported by some sort of clear congressional authorization of whether we're at war with entities in syria or syria itself. we're going in -- i notice tony hears what i'm saying, going
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into new areas and new countries without that authorization. >> getting messy again in the middle east, if you will. the truth of the matter is our commander have conducted such operations worldwide. we have seen it happened in somalia, in yemen in afghanistan and pakistan and it's clearly a successful tactic. it's very dangerous. we have to get to a zero risk as possible, but obviously these operations are extremely complex. obviously we have seen some intelligence that let you to take that act now on a strategic level, how did this help in our strategies to defeat isis. it appears that this is just almost a pr stunt in the world community to say that we are defeating isis in certain ways but the truth of the matter is ra maddic has been -- for many months and isis expanding furse east to help the base where 15,000 shia militiamen are
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located, tried to mobilize to take ramadi, but i don't think they'll be able to at least in the short term. >> obviously we weren't able to capture abu sigh jeff. we did capture his wife u some. m sayyaf. i suspect she's being held nearby and they're using tried-and-true interrogation techniques, and i believe there would be a great of information to exploit. i think president obama, finally to use a golf metaphor, he picked a 3 woods -- -- to get more intelligence out of her, out of material we -- it will tie it into a ground force that could stop isis and go about
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securing security for the iraqi people. i believe the authorization of the force has to be part of that but we have to do something, where this one piece this one success needs to be the beginning of a larger rye thinking of the entire strategy, which i believe thoob an arab nato, or bring in the egyptians to fight in the west who are sunni, who can support the sunni elements -- i'm sorry shia elements. we don't want the shia to come in, abu once the shia comes in, you create another problems, further destabilizing things. so we have to think about things more carefully as we go forward. >> thank you so much. appreciate your time and your insights today. thank you up next you new detail on the deadly amtrak derailment and a new lawsuit. they are the natural born enemy of the way things are. yes, ideas are scary
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corridor between philadelphia and new york coming less than a week after the derailment that killed eight people and injured more than 200. riders tell us they are happy things are getting back to normal, but they acknowledge it's a new normal. >> i trust amtrak executives and all the amtrakeople will not put us back on these trainings if they didn't think it was safe. >> i don't mind, you know, getting back on the train. i think they have assured us in their recent correspondence to passengers that it will be a safe way to travel. >> it was great. i slept through most of it, you know, it was great it was comfortable, no problem. >> a group of passengers and the train's conductor have filed lawsuits against amtrak. meanwhile, federal investigators are following a potential new lead. they say the train's windshield may have been truck by a rock shortly before the crash. adam, what do you got?
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>> toure, good afternoon, back on track here in philadelphia. service resumed early this morning. mayor nutter was here seeing people off to new york telling them this is a safe and secure way to travel. now, as far as the investigates, the ntsb says their investigation is wide on the floor. the fbi, on the other hand looking at a pattern. there? fact a link between three trains hit by projectiles. you have a septa, and others. engineers called this getting rocked. it happens so often along the northeast regional corridor that some of them actually put up window guards to protect them from these kind of projectiles. >> adam reece in philadelphia, thank you for that report straight ahead prosecuting crime in america's largest city.
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the current national focus on policing and law enforcement have thrust many district attorneys into the spotlight, from d.a. marilyn moseby to dan donovan, who was just elected to congress. while decisions to prosecute or clear police officers gets lots of attention d.a.s spent most of their times prosecuting other crimes. historically one of the nation's crime zones was new york, where d.a. cyrus vance has been on the job for five years, a period when violent crime has been dropping and incidents of reported rape are above national average. new york has worked to clear a backlog of untested rape kits repositories that were knechted for lack of resources or attention.
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that led to 49 new indictments. now cyrus vajsnce is leading an effort to bring that approach >> hi, harry. good to be here. >> first of all why are there these rape kid backlogs. >> i think it's principally a question of money. the backdrop is there are several hundred thousands untested rape kits sitting on shelves in warehouses or law enforcement facilities around the country some of which have been laying untested for decades. i think money mash the principal reason why there hasn't been an effort systematically state by state to identify the backlog, and then to test those kids. what i decided to do last fall
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was to use $35 million of money we received through federal forfeiture, to commit to fund rape kit testing around the country. there are major cities with rape kid backlogs, places like detroit, cleveland houston they for money are not ability to get the job done. >> for a prosecutor this is unusual, and speaking to a national problem with a solution that's not ideal, right? you're doing this because you think it's necessary but ideally someone else in these lots or federally would be doing this? >> it is ultimately the responsibility of the states and the federal government working together to solve this problem. i committed $35 million with a commitment right up front, though, if there is a new york backlog i was going to take care of that first. i don't think we have one, but stepping back, the reason why we got involved is i think it's a tragedy, and i don't think that's an overstatement to have
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typically women go through a sexual assault to then have to go through the ordeal of having her body be a crime scene and it's picked over and examined by experts. the results of those exams go into a rape test kit, and thof those kits in the hundreds of thousands remain untested says two things that are unacceptable. to the woman, it says what happened to you doesn't matter. and also to the assailant it says what you did doesn't matter. that's just not a way we should be doing business. so we announced or $35 million last fall. thankfully the federal government in a month had committed $41 million, so combined there's now $76 million to address the backlog and the federal government is funding some follow-oinvestigative work. >> you had an camp just this month of how important this
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evidence can be the case of a rape that occurred 20 years ago, you were able to find a dna match and make an arrest of a man who was i continue rant and looks like he may be the person who perpetrated that rape. how often are you able to get successes going through this backlog and testing these kits. and also speak to the fact that frequently you are people who are repeat offenders so ire also not you're also taking a repeat offender off the street. >> i think it's a have -- for self-ish -- when detroit did its 2,000 initial rape kit testing out of the 11,000 backlog they matched crimes in 23 other states, or even more, so his rally half the country. sexual offenders are obvious
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serial offenders, and obvious just are not committing sex eaveses, but other crimes. there may be a number of reasons individual a i rested in florida. they take dna at arrest. that arrest that dna was uploaded, and it hit a rain that occurred in 1995 in new york. our office -- my predecessor was a leader in this field. what he did and what our office did is pioneer the indicting of d in the a profiles. so in this case of last week, when we received -- what the dna that was taken from the crime scene back in 1995 was ultimately analyzed, it was uplifted into the state dna database, but as a defendant with only a dna profile nothing
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more. when this individual was then arrested in florida recently it matched with the 1995 case and now the case goes forward. >> to switch gears a bit i have to ask you with anton pate's case he was 6 years old walked two blocks to a bus stop, went missing in 1999, was the first child on the milk cartons. changed the way that parents think about leaving kids out 2349 city by themselves. it just had a mistrial, the jury came down 11-1, and people are saying the number 11 is powerful enough to have a retrial. >> let me say there's a link between this is rape cases and the aton pates case, it was before we had cell phones or even cameras on streets to
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record what's happening but it's a cold case as these rape cases are obvious and victims should not believe that law enforcement forgets. i think some of the most powerful cases i experienced emotionally have been those where going back 20 years we were able to bring closure to a family. the this case certainly -- i intend to retry the case and i think the evidence by our prosecutors was compelling it's a challenges case, i've never said otherwise but it's a kay we believe should be supered. in our system it happens from time to time that jurors cannot be unanimous, on june 10th you're going to announce officially to retry it. >> i intend to. >> thank you so much.
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is the charge facing 200 alleged gang members. nine people were killed, dozens injured, police say it's a miracle the toll wasn't even larger. >> it started in the rest room quickly escalated to the outdoor patio bar area. shots were fired inside the restaurant by rival biker gang members at each other. >> nbc's jay gray is in waco with the latest on the back large facing that restaurant. >> reporter: ari what police describe as something that even veterans have never seen a popular restaurant and shopping area, just after noon on sunday turned into a noting gallery. take a look at what's going on here. police on the ground getting help from every local state and federal agency available, as they investigate the scene here. nine people killed all of those gang members at least 18 gerald. they're going through all the
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vehicles here. inside the restaurant is where all this began in the bam, spilled into the outdoor bar area, and then the parking lot. police say they recovered weapons that include brass knuckles. they say clubs, chains, guns and obviously knives. it's an investigation that continues here and will for quite some time. abby, back to you. >> jay gray thank you so much. our next guest first exposed a story that's impossible to believe in this day and age and then one that's become all too familiar. julian loud's photo eisai chronicled a school deep in southern georgia still holding segregated segregated segregated. pressure to act, they integrated the -- but a young black man was shot and killed by an older white man dividing locals once again. her cameras captured another complicated pour traces of american life. >> my 22-year-old son was taken
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from me and it's changed my life forever. the pain that seems to be growing more and more inside is unbearable at times. this man will never know what he has done to my family no one will ever get me to understand why it was necessary to kill my son. this was a senseless death to me and it just didn't have to happen. >> the documentary film "southern rites" debuts tonight and here is the director julian -- i learned a lot from this documentary, was so surprised that as recently as 2009 there was a place in the united states a high school that had a prom for blacks and a prom for whites. moreover watching this, it's based on your skin color, you live in totally different worlds.
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at one white person said it's not racism,ist it is southern way, very deep rooted. >> but what was interesting is the mexican population could go to either to either prom. >> but you also show that white students can if they want to go to the black prom, right? but even if you're in an interracial relationship, you cannot go to the white prom. >> that is correct. there was always one or two mixed couples every year that i had photographed. the white part of the couple would always go to the white prom. her date wouldn't be invited. but she would -- they were open arms to her in the black prom. >> so talk to us about the norman naismith murder trial that abby was alluding to. so basically what happens is a man who is raising his mixed race niece wakes up in the middle of the night to find her
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and another friend with two black men doing the sort of things that teenagers do late at night. and after some dispute ends up shooting and killing one of them essentially as they're fleeing the house. and this ignites, of course, a storm of controversy. he ultimately is found guilty, but a relatively low charge. doesn't get a lot in the way of punishment. did the justice system work properly in this town? how did this story illustrate the racial tensions and the racial problems that you see throughout this town? >> i think what's interesting is that his own daughter, his niece who he raised as his daughter since 2 months old she said in the film she says i'm so happy that my father's home. but if he were black, i know for sure he'd never see the light of day. >> so she thinks that justice was not blind in this case, that he got different treatment because he was white.
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>> that was really interesting to me. >> it's an extraordinary documentary, so congratulations to you for what you've done here. one of the moments that jumped out at me is you're riding in a car with this black woman and she says a lot of people in this town don't like you, they don't like that you're here they look at you as sort of an outside agitator stirring up racial animus, as if the animus does not exist that you are there pointing it out. and i think that you are much better at infiltrating the black community and getting those folks to talk to you, whereas most of the white community seem to not wantç to talk to you. >> that's correct. >> talk about how hard it is to report a story where folks think that you are part of the problem that you are trying to report. >> right. it was really difficult. as you saw in the film the sheriff in town who is the person that's supposed to be protecting your rights he came into the car and attacked me for photographing and filming a public parade.
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>> and hit you. >> yes, he did. and handcuffed me for taking pictures. so that was a really important moment. because i understood then what it felt like for people that live in the town, that's what they have to deal with. the fear that was told to me. there are a lot of people in the black community that talk to me and told me their stories, but said this was off the record, because their livelihoods and their jobs depended on keeping quiet. >> so how did you get nelson neesmith, how did you get him to talk to you? he talks to you at length in multiple situation, says this is the last time i'm talking about it. why did he even want to talk about it? >> you know, it's interesting because everyone sees -- it was very important for me first of all, to have everyone share their truth. i was very transparent about that. he knew i was making this film.
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it was either people were going to learn about him through their opinions or he was going to share his truth. and he had a lot to say. >> sure did. >> and it was interesting to see everyone dealt with the same situation, but saw it through a different lens. >> a little bit more on something that you explore as well which is what the younger generation wants, or whether there are some positive notes for the future here. let's take a look at that. >> me and brooke, we known each other forever, like since grade school. >> i went to the prom and it was whites-only. but it wasn't really as fun as when it was together. everybody should be together. all go to school together. we grew up together. they're in the school so why not go to prom together? >> talk about that. when she says we grew up together, i mean, depends how you look at it right? in some places people are self-segregating or formally segregating. in other ways they are together. >> that's what i found so interesting when i first learned about the town and visited. i mean, it's pretty 50/50.
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the students, it's a tiny community. these are real friendships, they grew up since they were kindergarten together. so there was such a dissonance there. because they were very integrated, and then there was -- i've never seen such overt displays of racism and segregation before. so that's what i found fascinating, having those two opposing things. >> for the most part though, do you sense this next generationwants to live in a different world? they're demanding change? >> absolutely. that's where i found the inspiration, the hope. the students. the young generation. it's all about this young generation. >> but you did talk to younger folks who say we want this. it's not the older generation telling us this. >> right. but the people that said that i really do feel like they had their hands tied from their
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parents. i heard so many stories. i know stories of parents taking their white daughter --ç an interracial couple. cars are taken away. there are threats. so i do believe that that was really coming through the parents and that wasn't what the students really felt in their heart. >> so important that you're highlighting this. thank you so much for being with us and putting this documentary together. "southern rites" premieres tonight at 9:00 p.m. on hbo. there is more "cycle" right after this. ut 450 million fans. we're trying to give them all the feeling of being at the stadium. the microsoft cloud gives us the scalability to communicate exactly the content that people want to see. it will help people connect to their passion of living real madrid. at red lobster's create your own seafood trio... ...if it looks tasty
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isis seizes a key city in iraq. 170 people in texas are charged following sunday's biker gang shootout. and who poses the biggest threat to republican 2016 hopefuls? george w. bush. but first president obama just wrapped a major announcement that will impact police forces across the country. it's monday may 18th and this is "now." the federal government will no longer be handing over armored vehicles bayonets, and grenade launchers to your local police department. speaking in camden, new jersey just moments ago, president obama announced a ban on the federal transfer of some types of military style equipment to local police departments part of an ongoing push for policing reform. >> we've seen how militarized gear can sometimes give people a feeling why there's an occupying force as opposed
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