r" starts right now. isis seizes a key city in iraq. 170 people in texas are charged following sunday's biker gang shootout. and who poses the biggest threat to republican 2016 hopefuls? george w. bush. but first president obama just wrapped a major announcement that will impact police forces across the country. it's monday may 18th and this is "now." the federal government will no longer be handing over armored vehicles bayonets, and grenade launchers to your local police department. speaking in camden, new jersey just moments ago, president obama announced a ban on the federal transfer of some types of military style equipment to local police departments part of an ongoing push for policing reform. >> we've seen how militarized gear can sometimes give people a feeling why there's an occupying force as opposed to a force that's part of the community

that's protecting them and serving them. so we're going to prohibit some equipment made for the battlefield that is not appropriate for local police departments. >> the ban was recommended by a white house task force. during protests last august, the appearance of armored vehicles and military style body armor spotlighted the defense department's excess property program and it raised concerns that it had spun out of control. the so-called 1033 program has transferred more than $4.3 billion in military equipment to police since its inception in 1997 including nearly half a billion dollars of equipment just last year. following today's executive action, if departments want this type of equipment in the future, they'll have to submit to stringent federal oversight. as for the location of the president's announcement the choice of camden was no accident. overrun by rampant crime the city took the radical step of trading in its entire police

force and replacing it with a new one run by the county. the new force worked more closely with federal agencies and developed a tactical intelligence center which the president toured today. but mostly camden changed its culture. emphasizing community policing and old fashioned walking the beat. average response time is down from more than an hour. homicides have been nearly cut in half. shootings are down nearly 60%. the president said of camden that a city once gone beyond redemption is a model for the world. >> if it's working here it can work anywhere. >> camden is showing it can be done. i want america to show around the world that it can be done. >> joining me is scott thompson, deray mckesson, and brian grimm. chief thompson, let me start

with you. how hard was it so make these fairly radical changes to the police department in camden? >> alex, thank you for having me on the show. what we've been able to do is establish a culture and identity, and that this would manifest itself in how they interacted with the public each and every day to be able to build trust. once the community started to trust us, we find that they started tipping points in public safety. and they were able to reduce shootings and murders in flagrant open air drug markets not by militarize those neighborhoods with officers with machine guns and helmets, but by hitting tipping points where people left their homes because they felt safe because they got to know the officer and the officer remained in the street walking the beat or riding a bicycle.

>> how did the officers react when this was announced trading in police force to have it run by the county. was there resistance initially? >> well, to first make the transition to getting police officers out of the squad cars, for some it was great. for others, they were a little reluctant. truth be told, once they stpted to interact with the people, what it really does is gets down to the core of what the vast majority of our police officers came into this line of work to do in the first place which is to help people. so once they started to be able to spend a majority of their day not answering radio calls and trying to keep up with that constant pace, it can run you ragged, to be quite frank, to actually be able to connect to people on a human level and help them and see the results of that, it started to turn a corner with the culture and became infectious and what we found is even some of our old dogs learn new tricks.

>> deray let me ask you about the president's announcement today, which a lot of folks are happy about. but i wonder about someone who's seen the anger the frustration the sense of isolation that a lot of communities feel. what are your thoughts about the actions taken today and how optimistic are you for reforms in the future? >> this is an important first step. it's important that the president is looking at the recommends from the 21st century task force on police reform and starting to implement those things. but what this doesn't address is the fact that there are many police de [tments that still have these weapons that are no longer going to be able to be distributed to those communities. so i'm interested in what happens to the existing weapons. and also this is about culture change. that's what the police chief in camden alluded to. they are making a choice to kill people. so again a good first step.

it doesn't address what happens to the existing weapons that make communities feel like occupying forces and neighborhoods. >> how effective do you think this will be broadly in making sure military grade weaponry is not the go-to weaponry for a lot of these local police departments? >> well, like you said, a lot of the local police forces still have the weapons that they've had for a long time. those are going to wear down and maybe the next president can actually take those back, saying you don't need grenade launchers and we made as me take by allowing you to have it in the first place. but what it does do is send a cultural oe) if police officers see themselves as guardians rather than warriors, it's a completely different approach. but all across the country in police forces both in major cities and in rural areas for a lot of officers the number one

priority, and they'll tell you this, is to get through their shift and bring themselves and their colleagues home safely to their families. there's very much a kind of battlefield mentality. a lot of the terminology that's used on the battlefield has been kind of imported back into the united states. so they see themselves as confronting kind of hostile forces. so you're going to continue to see innocent people getting killed whenever somebody flinches towards a waistband. it could be significant. >> chief thompson, will you talk to us more practically, specifically about how you have that conversation with officers getting them to be more guardians and less warriors? >> well, it's less of a conversation and more of something that gets put into

action. how you build relationships and trust comes from contact. particularly when you're dealing with your most challenged communities. you're going to get to know people. it's going to be experiencial. it's something that we have to do. what you see -- again in particular neighborhoods that have been plagued with crime and poverty, for decades are generally communities of color. i don't know if our relationship has ever been as strong as we as police thought that it has been. but for us to best address that, we just can't put cops in classrooms and do cultural sensitivity training. that's an important start but the most important thing is to get officers out of squad cars and start interacting with people. officers who may have become cynical over time and started to objectify the people of the public, there's nothing that cuts through that quicker than when they're dealing with people

on a day-to-day basis as human beings and, you know if that doesn't cut to the core of why you got intorj job in the first place, then you're in the wrong line of work. >> the chief brings up a good point about the systemic failures here, and the president echoed this as well that this is also about poverty and institutional failure, especially in communities of color. i guess i wonder from the activist's perspective the focus has i think naturally been on police community relations. but is that the next step? is that the conversation that the activist community is having, beginning to try and have a conversation around those failures, which are broader and more insidious in a lot of ways? >> i think that you're right. i will say, grenade launchers isn't what killed freddie gray or mike brown. this demilitarization is important, but guns killed many of those or corrupt culture allowed those people to be killed and no accountability. when we get to what the chief said about trusting legitimacy,

that also comes from bad officers being held accountable for their actions. so what does it mean when officers kill people and nothing comes of it? that does not lead to trusting and accountable relationship or any sense of legitimacy in communities. i think that you're right, there are many communities that have been marginalized because of a system of oppression and that also matters, but in this moment, we are focused on what does it mean for people that are supposed to protect and serve. they are the people killing people and not being held accountable, so we're not losing focus on that, but we are acknowledging that this in a context, it is broader than police brutality at times. >> and deray brings up the point, in terms of transparency around violence, it's worth knowing that camden is one of 20 cities that's participating in a white house initiative to enhance the use of police data, which could get us more detailed information on traffic stops, officer involved shootings and use of force. that would seem to be -- that's something that needs to be approached on a parallel track if we're talking about bettering police-community relations.

>> correct. >> right. and that might highlight who some of these kind of troublesome officers are. if it finds out that -- if you find out that 50% of the resisting arrests are made by say, 2% of the officers, police unions might find themselves in a position that's analogous to where the teachers unions were ten years ago. police unions really will lay down in the street to protect every single officer as a matter of principle just as the teachers unions used to do. but they kind of have said look okay, everybody's against bad teachers. if the police unions can get to a place where they say look we're also against bad police officers and are willing to root them out, then that could be a huge culture change, too. >> chief scott thompson, deray mckesson and ryan grim, thank you for your time and thoughts. >> thank you. coming up why is the biggest problem for republican hopefuls another republican? plus, hillary clinton has not addressed the media in over

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the capital of iraq's largest province just 70 miles west of baghdad, has fallen to isis. in the city hundreds of civilians were killed in just two days of fighting. thousands have fled their homes. according to "new york times," men, women, kids, and fighters' bodies are scattered on the ground and isis is reportedly ransacking local military headquarters and executing those loyal to the government. in response to these gains, the

u.s. coalition against isis launched nine air strikes on the city in the past 24 hours. the state department is saying today that baghdad is not under threat. speaking from south korea, secretary of state john kerry was still optimistic that isis was weakening. >> their communications had been reduced. their funding and financial mechanisms had been reduced. and their movements by and large and most certainly their air patrols in other capacities have been reduced but that's not everywhere. and so it's possible to have the kind of attack we've seen but i'm absolutely confident that will be reversed. >> this comes just one day after u.s. special forces killed a senior isis official in an overnight air raid in syria, capturing the leader's wife and freeing an 18-year-old yazidi woman from slavery.

joining me now is the security correspondent for "the new york times" and brian catoulis. how do you square john kerry's confidence with the news we have today that it has fallen? >> well he's the secretary of state and he needs to demonstrate some positive tone here. because this whole fight is in partnership not only with iraq but with 60 other countries. the whole theory of the case is that the u.s. is going to provide some support in the background, but we're not going to go back in to iraq ourselves. so i think it would be hard for the secretary of state of a country leading this coalition to be overly negative. >> we're not saying overly negative. i think what a lot of folks are looking for is just an honest assessment maybe. >> yeah that's right. i think there's no whitewashing this alex. this is a disaster.

it not only undermines the iraqi government and the prime minister abadi, who everybody says is a lot better than his predecessor, but the question is but the question is, is he strong enough. u.s. is not sending troops back into iraq in a large way. i think secretary kerry is right. like we're squeezing isis financially and in certain places. but quite clearly the ground game still looks a little shaky including in places like iraq. in syria, it looks even more pessimistic at this stage. >> mark, what about sayyaf the isis deputy official that we killed over the weekend. how integral do you think he was and how irreplaceable is he? >> well, he's certainly replaceable. he certainly wasn't a household name to the extent that there are household names in isis, but he wasn't a well-known figure

even among people who track this. that doesn't mean he wasn't important to the organization. any intelligence collected at the site might not be valuable especially if he had information connected to financial matters on isis. it still remains to be seen not only what the impact of that raid is, but whether it could lead to feature operations against isis because of any intelligence that was picked up. but it's right to point out that the bigger issue here is, you know, whether isis not only in syria and iraq in whether it's advancing or in retreat. certainly over the weekend, the more significant story seems to be not this one-off raid that killed abu sayyaf but the fall of ramadi. >> i guess i wonder do you get the sense that maybe the pentagon is playing up the killing of sayyaf because of the bad news on ramadi? some would say the pentagon has

had an overly optimistic view of isis and its gains. the pentagon reportedly was hiding isis gains in terms of mapping and has only shown us where isis has lost territory. >> i don't know if they thought it through that way, but i do know these gaps that we see in the strategy, nine months after we started an air campaign against isis one that i support, we still have major gaps. and the big part of the gaps are the local ground forces, whether it's in western iraq. this notion of a sunni national guard, which was the thing that people talked about last summer and fall really has not materialized largely because of the iraqi indecision themselves. inside of syria we had proposed funding and training that's going on right now for some of the anti-isis and anti-assad opposition forces. that's been slow to ramp up. i think the raid across the border to syria demonstrates -- and mark" á about it -- is that i think there's a

recognition. the fact that we're doing raids like this is a recognition that you just can't bomb forces like this from the air and then get tangible results. >> yeah. i mean, are we upping -- is the u.s. upping its presence in syria, the strategy in syria? >> i'm sorry say that again? >> is the u.s. upping its strategy in syria? sunday's raid at least 32 islamic isis state members, including four senior officials, were killed in the raid and accompanying air strikes. is this an escalation? i think we lost mark. brian, do you think this is an escalation of our u.s. involvement in syria? >> look, i think it was an impressive tactical operation. it's a sign that intelligence may be getting ready. you can't do a raid without having good intelligence on the ground. but the bigger question is there's a serious gap in having any strategy for syria at all.

iraq, i think there's somewhat of a pathway forward. secretary kerry may be correct that the iraqi response to ramadi may be strong. we saw this last month i believe. but the bigger problem is syria. so even though we may be operational,y, tactically willing to take risks like this the question is how does this feed into the overarching strategy to stabilize both of these countries and ultimately squeeze and defeat isis. >> it's worth noting that the archaeological, the toll on world heritage sites and archaeological sites that have been around for millennia. a syrian town and one of the most important ancient sites in this part of the world with temples dating back to the first century. isis is now advancing on the outskirts. i know the center for american progress did a report this spring on isis's destruction of heritage in the middle east.

this is yet another long-lasting consequence of their campaign. >> yeah. and it demonstrates also in the 21st century we've got crazy madmen who aren't happy with just killing innocent civilians. they also want to destroy any sense of history culture that they think contradicts their distorted world view. every time you see something like this the images of young children and families being killed, then combined with the fact that this group is hell bent on destroying cultures and ideas and history that go back thousands of years, that should shock all of us. essentially say others that have different types of histories, we don't back down in support. >> thank you guys both. >> thank you. coming up police arrest more than 100 people after gangs

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170 people are being charged today in waco, texas after a shootout yesterday between rival motorcycle gangs and police left at least nine bikers dead and injured another 18. the gunfight happened in the parking lot of a busy shopping senter where at least five gangs were gathered. >> those individuals are being charged engageing in organized crime. in reference to the shooting at twin peaks which is a capital murder. it's a capital murder because of the number of victims that were killed in one episode here. >> joining me now from waco is nbc news correspondent jay gray. thanks for joining me. what's the latest? >> reporter: well, those numbers of arrested could grow as they continue the investigation. take a look at what's going on behind me and has been since all of this happened. police, federal agents on the c: c1

ground and searching for all of the evidence they can find here. they will be here at least through the evening. there's about 150 motorcycles from the gang members still outside of the restaurant. this fight started in the restroom. there you see the twin peaks, it spilled out into the bar area and in the parking lot. that's where all the shots were fired. that's where eight of the nine died. another in the hospital. this is an investigation that continues as threats against officers continue from the gangs, and concern is that more may make their way to this area police say with the help of law enforcement from around the area and federal agents. they're ready if that should happen. >> nbc's jay gray. thanks for that update. coming up while a new york court ruled the nsa is illegally collecting american phone records, today chris christie called fears about the nsa "baloney." that's ahead.

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meanwhile, back in the always exciting and unpredictable world of american presidential politics, hillary clinton is back on the trail. at this hour she is speaking, but thus far has taken no questions, at an event in mason city, iowa. it has now been 38,000 minutes and counting since the former secretary of state last fielded a question from the press. then again if you look at what is happening when candidates do take questions, perhaps keeping quiet makes sense. first there was jeb bush and his excruciating four-answer stumble on iraq. this weekend, senator marco rubio took a turn riding the bucking bush bronco. >> was it a mistake to go to war with iraq? >> yeah, i understand but it's not the same question. ,> but that's the question i'm asking you. was a mistake -- >> it was not a mistake for the president to go intofl7ç iraq. >> i'm not asking you -- >> in hindsight. >> the world is a better place because saddam hussein is not there. >> lindsey graham seemed to have less difficulty with the question this morning.

>> if i know then what i know now, would i have launched a ground invasion? probably not. probably would have had another approach to saddam. >> it is worth noting graham also advocated sending 10,000 american troops into iraq and syria. i digress. the only republican who seems to be enjoying answering questions on this particular topic, senator rand paul. today in philadelphia gave his rivals a hefty dose of real talk. >> the unintended consequences of the iraq war are isis. instability, chaos, and we're more at risk now and we're having to go back over there because of isis. we have people in my party who want to bomb both sides in that war. they want to bomb isis and they want to bomb assad at the same time. >> joining me now is ma(t welch mckay koppens, and sam stein.

if that is not a study in contrast -- rand paul is literally slumped back in the chair, giving what we said, the real talk. marco rubio, does it need to be this hard for him? >> this totally upends what conventional wisdom was two months ago covering the republican primary which is that it's a hawk's game here. basically the republican voters really want to go to war. they're missed off about isis. that was wrong then. the conservative grass roots really is not itching for war. maybe they feel more scared. but marco rubio -- he has this new slogan out there saying like nothing matters if you're not safe. they're trying to actually go zell miller on us in 2015. that's not going to work. that's not where america is right now. it's interesting to watch republicans have to fight over the iraq war. >> i want to unpack why rubio couldn't just do what lindsey graham did, which is yeah, we shouldn't have done that. i think what that does, mckay

is open up a whole, like fo+um of public litigation around the mistakes made by george w. bush. >> this actually started with jeb bush right? with his five-day four-answer -- >> partridge in a pear tree. >> exactly. finally got to the answer that everyone wanted him to give. the thing that's interesting, when he was going through that process, i was talking to a lot of prominent architects of the iraq war who basically wanted jeb bush to say what i think marco rubio was trying to say, which is to say, sure if we had the intel at the time we wouldn't have invaded. but look at all these good things that have happened because of the iraq war. we've gotten rid of saddam hussein. we have a chance at a democratic iraq. >> we have a chance at a democratic iraq on a day when isis is making huge gains. >> this is why the vast majority of the republican party you'll notice last week took that opportunity to say no it was a mistake to go into iraq. marco rubio didn't go that far,

or he tried to, but he had a lot of problems, because a, he's trying to be the most hawkish candidate in the republican field. >> nothing matters unless you're safe. >> this is where a lot of the republican donor class is. still a lot of republican voters, i think 76% of americans say the iraq war will be judged by history to be a mistake the elite donor class still wants to litigate those issues. >> can you have a two-part answer on this question? >> sure you can. it opens up a whole other series of questions. if you ask them was a mistake to go in initially and they say yes, but we're better off anyway, then the follow-up question, which is a lot tougher than the initial question is, well, why do you think we went in initially? why was the intelligence wrong? was the bush administration responsible for manipulating the intelligence, or were they generic consumers of bad intelligence like everyone else? those are the tough questions

that follow the first one. so i think for marco rubio and jeb bush, it's much easier to just get off the subject as fast as possible than it is to have that nuanced discussion you're talking about. >> maureen dowd brings this up. we are not done talking about george bush even if jeb and marco figure out an answer on this question. jeb has not even been asked any questions about w's dark contributions on waterboarding the deficit, and the near total collapse of the american economy. if he is having a hard time answering that question, which is settled for most republican voters what happens on the question? >> jeb bush has said the best thing about the obama administration is blanket surveillance under the nsa. so a lot of the candidates have staked territory there. chris christie just today talking about how, you know, that the crazy civil libertarians are going nuts in the party. so republican candidates again are going in that direction but i think they're going further away. this is not only a republican

problem, too. democrats have a difficult time answering the question about iraq as well going forward. it's not just about iraq, it's about libya. it's about 2011. marco rubio is the biggest pro-libya hawk out there. how did that turn out for him or for hillary clinton or for anybody else? >> speaking of which, you provided the perfect segue. hillary clinton was busy not discussing iraq in iowa. house minority nancy pelosi was reminding candidates of both parties that plenty of people, herself included, oppose the iraq war. and not just knowing what we know now, but knowing what we knew then. >> i hear this conversation, knowing what we know now. no knowing what we know then. it was wrong and misrepresented by the bush- bush-cheney-administration to the american people and i think we have to get the record straight on that. >> this seems vaguely problematic for one of the democratic leaders in congress because as we know hillary clinton also voted for the iraq

war. i mean, this does not necessarily make things any easier for democrats. >> yeah. and we don't have to go that far back to know that this trips up hillary clinton. it was 2008 and it was her undoing. she addressed obviously this element in her book, but that was just in her book. obviously at some point in time she's going to need to talk about it. she'll have to have her sort of mea culpa in public. i don't know how well that's going to go over. this is the seminal fundamental question about where you stand as a foreign policy commander in chief. and if we're all in agreement now apparently that it was a mistake in retrospect, then it's true that she failed one of the most significant tests of her career. >> there is a sense that we haven't gathered around the proverbial psychiatrist's armchair to truly talk as a country about mistakes that were made in iraq and i think sam is right. people want to know where hillary clinton is on this. 38,000 minutes. i don't usually measure my life

in minutes. but 38,000 minutes is a lot of minutes. does it matter that she's not taking questions from the press? >> well, we go through this with different candidates. mitt romney went long stretches without answering questions. the trick for hillary clinton and candidates like her is you have to wait until the moment that the coverage about your lack of answers is worse than the coverage that might follow your answers. >> there are countdown clocks. there it is. >> that's on "the washington post." i think we're reaching the tipping point where she's going to have to answer a question. i wouldn't be surprised if it's in the next couple days. >> i mean, are we judging her more -- are we more stringent about the minute by minute count because it's hillary clinton, because of the shroud of secrecy? >> i think that's part of it. i think it's also just a fact that she's a declared candidate the presidency. when you compare her to all the other declared candidates for the presidency, of which there are a ton on the republican side and a few more fringe candidates

on the left, they're all taking questions every day. and they're tripping up. i think for hillary, she's like yeah, you know, this is bad, but at least i'm not, like, stumbling over iraq. >> let's also remember that, you know, this is a person who has kind of an issue with transparency. >> but it becomes a double evil. >> a double narrative. >> exactly. >> she can do this for as long as democrats don't punish her for it. do democrats want to have a coronation or not, is the question. if she's going to sit back and not get punished. >> will they let it get to 40,000 minutes? my wonderful panel is sticking around through your commercial break. up next, what is the best way to really avoid questions you don't want to answer? run. run fast. especially if you are congresswoman loretta sanchez. >> you made a gesture, some people consider that gesture offensive. do you feel like you took that back? making a fist something we do to

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hours ago, louisiana governor bobby jindal announced he is forming an exploratory committee for a possible presidential run, jindal joins a gargantuan republican field, one that seems to be expanding by the day and which could grow to as many as 20 candidates. in light of this, the rnc is frantically searching for ways to calm the herd, with a consensus emerging that august 6th should be capped as 12 candidates. sam stein, what should that criteria be? >> i don't know. i was talking with some colleagues here. they should do like a "hollywood squares" typeset-up. >> shadow stevens is running for president. >> i don't know how they're going to managw the shots. it's a ginormous stage. if you have two hours divided by 12 candidates, it's not a lot of time per person. it could be a mess for the rnc.

i feel bad for them. >> could? it is a mess. they are going to do something that is inevitably going to anger some part of some base somewhere. if you say carly fiorina can't speak or rick perry can't speak they're going to be really angry. >> you can probably thin the herd pretty easily with your donald trumps of the world. there's a few that nobody likes them. >> you can't put donald trump on the stage and then leave bobby jindal out who's a two-term louisiana governor. this is the problem. but this is also -- the rnc brought this problem on themselves when they decided to take control of the entire debate program. >> look at how many people -- >> the reason they did this -- >> and that's not even all of them. >> the problem is the rnc did this because they wanted to make the debate program less chaotic this cycle as compared to 2012. now they're facing all of these other issues. i've been talking to a lot of

senior presidential campaign operatives for the already declared candidates who say, look, you know we're going to go along with the rnc rules until the moment my guy needs another debate, and then who knows? everything's up in the air. so we're going to see if the rnc is actually able to keep control of this whole system through the whole primary process. there are a lot of people who are skeptical. >> i think it shows, there is real legitimate debate within the republican big tents right now. that debate is real. and it's ongoing. and it's even vicious and strong, and interesting i think it's for all of us who are not republicans, we should want 12 people up there. >> i think 30. >> not just for the sake of them winning or losing but also because there's some legitimate debates here that will get drowned off. last time around, they snuffed out gary johnson i think on explicitly ideological grounds. hopefully they won't do such a thing this time.

>> i have suggested this on this program. go by height. shortest to tallest. you can leave the short people at home or the tall people but that's the only fair way to do it. okay. then there is this. take it from loretta sanchez, a house democrat running for senate in california. when meeting with a group of indian-americans, or any americans, for that matter, do not do this. >> i'm going to his office thinking that i'm going to go meet with -- right? because he said indian-american. >> following that war whoop on saturday sanchez literally ran away from reporters and slipped into a nearby building. i would imagine her opponent likes this video a lot. >> what was going through her head? literally running for office. >> literally running for the senate. hoping that the senate is on the other side of those glass doors. >> it's inexplicable. i tried to think about what i would say when this topic came

up, i just don't have anything to add to it. the visual is the story. >> it does beg the story, the war whoop was done two days after she announced she was running for senate. which is arguably the time you're really going to want to be on your ps and qs, and not making inflammatory racist gestures. >> i love loretta sanchez. i think politics needs more of her. she always wants to have fundraisers in the playboy mansion. she got in trouble against a vietnamese-american candidate about eight years ago. when you have a legitimate loose cannon type of personality, which she always has been and i think entertainingly so at the same time that you're doing ethnic identity politics, these things don't mix well. >> it has never been okay. >> not since, like, the "peter pan" movies. when is the last time that kind of stereotype -- >> have you been to an atlanta braves game? >> fair enough. or a redskins game. >> the cleanup effort which is just sprint until they stop

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