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past high noon here in the east. 9:00 a.m. out west. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." protests after the acquittal of a police officer from the 2012 shooting deaths two of unarmed people. >> the majority of the protests the majority of the protesters, yes, they were peaceful although aggressive at the end of the day. but still peaceful. in the evening, hour -- however, there were some who crossed the line. >> one of the people picked up a sign on the walk and threw it injuring a patron and hitting him in the head. that protester, officers moved to arrest him. we had incidents of protesters pepperspraying patrons that were seated at restaurants in patio areas or walking down the street. >> the police chief says all 71 people were arrested for assault and failure to disperse.

shortly failing the not guilty verdict for officer michael brelo, we heard reaction from his attorney the prosecutor and attorney for one of the victim's families. >> the trial is to examine how and why so main errors were made and -- many errors were made and flawed assumptions made that could have led to the deaths of two unarmed people. including a totally innocent trapped and essentially kidnapped, mentally ill passenger and a panicked disturbed petty criminal driver. after a chase of more than 20 minutes, 20 miles, that involved more than 100 officers led by supervisors who ignored their training and division of police rules. >> we stood toe to toe with an impressive government trying to coerce and put away a law-abiding citizen who did his job in this case even though there were tragic circumstances and outcomes. >> 62 cars with lights and sirens blaring, right, 62 cars chasing two unarmed people. you corner them in a parking

lot, you start shooting at each other. now someone hears shots fired. it's dark. no one knows what's going. on these are the circumstances that the court found officer brelo was reasonable in using force under the circumstances. it ignores the fact that it was the cleveland police officers who built this house, created this situation. not timmalissa. >> joining me is nbc's kevin tibbles outside quicken loans arena. good day to you. do police anticipate any demonstrations today or tonight leading up to the eastern conference finals game? >> reporter: well, absolutely alex. police are anticipating more demonstrations today. there are at least two that are scheduled to take place in and around the downtown area. yesterday, after the cleveland indians game there were a few incidents. and then as you mentioned, of course there's a big playoff game behind me here this evening. you know lebron james has already appealed for calm in the city. he is suggesting that the city get behind its team in this

playoff series and start the process of healing through cheering for cleveland and building up cleveland through this playoff basketball series. i think overall the city is probably breathing a sigh of relief today because of the incidents last night. they were pretty much isolated. i think that you could describe them as being very small and isolated, as was just mentioned. some 71 people were arrested. many of those were released a short time afterwards. there has been some video of the incidents where pepper spray was -- was shot not by police by protesters at people sitting in outdoor cafes and the like. these incidents were quickly tamped down by the police. let's also say i did notice actual protesters themselves and citizens themselves getting involved to also bring the tensions down. so in terms of the city of cleveland last night i think things appeared to be handled

well, and of course, now when they're going into this playoff game tonight, i think there's going to be a very large police presence on the streets, and i think people are just hoping things go off the way that they should here. >> sounds like no one wants things to get out of control. thank you very much, nbc's kevin tibbles, for that. the families of timothy russell and malissa williams remain stunned by the decision. of course, this all comes amid a national outcry over law enforcement's use of lethal force against minority groups. joining me now is paul costello family attorney and timothy russell's sister michelle. paul i want to get your reaction when you heard the judge read the verdict. >> well honestly, we wernl surprised. we were disappointed. we were hoping for a guilty verdict on some count, if not want manslaughter, potentially the felonious assault. we were disappointed. >> i can imagine. michelle, i know that during the conference, the news conference

yesterday you got to crying when your sister-in-law spoke about the kind of person your brother was. have you and your family even had time to digest any of this? >> yes, we're -- it's very difficult. we're trying to digest it. i was very upset by the verdict. i just felt that something should have been done. i never thought that he would be convicted of manslaughter, but i felt with this particular case all the evidence that had been presented, there was so much evidence to show that there was coercion, there was a cover-up and i just think that the judge really ignored a lot of that information. and he basically just focused on whether or not brelo's bullets shot and killed tim and malissa. there was things that were done that night, you know brelo was not a hero. but he was -- the judge made him out to be a hero when he said, you know he was in line with

following the scope of his job when he got on top of the car. he kind of made it seem like brelo was a hero. i don't feel that he was. i feel there was a lot that went wrong. there were so many things, 65 cars chasing after one car. there was -- you know audio, people saying there was not a gun. there was a lot of things that happened that was overlooked. i think that something should have been done. somebody should have been held accountable. the judge threw everything out. he didn't -- he didn't hold anybody accountable for this. i think with such an egregious case -- i mean what happened was horrible. and it's like if we can't get justice for this situation with all the evidence that was available, i mean how can we ever get justice for african-american people that are being gunned down by police behind the badge? they're standing behind the badge saying that i thought my life was in jeopardy or i

thought this person was going harm or hurt me. that's why i used lethal force. with my brother's case, that did not happen. >> well, you know -- >> he didn't try to harm the police. >> you know, michelle you are echoing the sentiments of many. you talk about the evidence in the case. paul, i want to get to you. officer brelo's lead attorney, pat deangelo, had this to say about the case. >> there were about 12 officers in this case who have had amputated spirits because of the coercion of the prosecution in this case. but michael brelo stood tall and his attorney stood tall. we fought tooth and nail. it's over and done with. >> paul, i'm curious how you respond to the charges by the prosecution. did the prosecution in any way jeopardize the case, perhaps overcharging? would that be one way they may have done that? >> i don't think the

prosecutor's office engaged in any coercion. to be honest i don't understand that argument. if anything, you could argue this other officers involved could have been indicted in this case because as michelle indicated, this was about one officer who jumped on the car and fired 49d shots. that was outrageous -- 49 shots. that was outrageous. other officers discharged their weapon and made kill shots. they weren't indicted. and the officers didn't testify against each other. people pled the fifth. i don't think there was any coercion by the prosecutor's office. >> you're listing numbers. i want to go over that too. we know that 72 of the 100 officers or so who took part in some way -- keep in mind 62 police cruisers took part in this chase of one car. so these, other than i mentioned, were suspended without pay. three supervisors were either fired or demoted. michelle, is this any kind of measure of relief to your family that there is at least some

penalty being paid presently with the chance there could be more disciplinary action as the city's board review resumes its investigation? >> yes. i'm thankful that they are reviewing things. i'm hoping they will really comb through investigative information. all of the documents the depositions, a lot of those depositions, the officer said the same exact thing, the same exact way. it indicates coercion that they were coached to say what they said because they know what they need to say in order to get off of a lethal force charge. they know. they're police officers. they know that they have to perceive threat or have to feel like they're in danger. that's what they're going to say. yeah, i was afraid. i thought he was trying to use his car as a weapon or shoot me with his gun when my brother never had a gun. he would never use his car as a weapon to run somebody over. it's totally outside of his character. i've been saying that since day

one. i'm praying that somebody will hear me and look at the depositions, thoroughly look at them, review them look at the bci investigation as far as the timeline of the chase. it took 22 minutes, they claim for my brother's car to get to the school. if you look at the cci report the bci investigation showed it would have taken one hour and seven machines by day to run the route the police claim my brother took or it would have taken one hour and four minutes by night. there's just something wrong with the story that the police officer's telling. i don't believe one word of it. i think we need to look at what they're saying and investigate that. stop relying on every single word to be true. >> you know michelle, we have heard you. my viewers have heard you. and i am certain that your brother, timothy, would be very proud for the passion and the strength that you're showing now in the wake of such a devastating incident for your family. thank you for your time.

also, paul, thank you, as well. good luck, guys. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. let's go to the weather emergency that's hitting parts of the south. central texas has seen up to ten inches of rain in 24 hours. flood warnings in effect. two rivers hit record levels. almost 400 homes under water. hundreds have been forced to take shelter outside of their homes. oklahoma, bad there, as well. flash floods hitting the northern part of the state hitting one firefighter during a water rescue. of the situation is making driving perilous. who's going to drive through that right? and there was this -- a funnel cloud touching down in grady county saturday afternoon. officials say one home was destroyed as a result of that. mark potter is there in wichita falls, texas. a good day to you. any encouraging news today? >> reporter: actually, a dramatic change of forecast here. before we begin let me show you, this is how you make the best out of a bad situation in a flood zone. that mallard sitting on top of a park bench that normally sits along a bike path. that's now flooded.

but meantime there has been a dramatic change in the forecast. when we left you yesterday, you might remember we were talking about this river, the wichita was predicted to reach historic levels. 25, 27 feet. that would be two to three feet above the record set in 2007. people were very concerned about that. the national guard was being called in. evacuations were set and then expanded. we were told this could last into late next week. this morning we woke up to an entirely different forecast. they were saying that the river would remain at moderate levels that it would peak today and start to dissipate. and the explanation for that is that rain that was anticipated did not come. we talked to the mayor of wichita falls about this. he has to use the forecasts to in advance set evacuations and take care of the people in this town. and he said that that up and down forecast has been frustrating. let's hear what he had to say. >> one forecast period they're

saying things are leveling off. the next one, it's doom and gloom. and then the next one is well things didn't turn out like we anticipated. >> reporter: of course everyone here is very happy with this forecast. nobody upset about that. a lot of homes that were in the cross hairs with the prediction of the rising water to historic levels have now been spared. the mayor perhaps put it best. he said, we've dodged the bullet. the good news, they needed the water here. they've had years of drought. now they've got lots of water. they have done it without threatening homes. a dramatic change this morning, good news. >> we like that. thank you very much, mark potter in wichita falls, texas. a new stroep and questions about who -- straw poll and questions about who might be the front-runner in the republican field for 2016. yes, that was a shark swimming by you in the water. right now, verizon is offering unlimited talk and text. plus 10 gigs of shareable data. yeah, 10 gigantic gigs.

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ted cruz coming in second and third respectively. joining me john harwood, chief washington correspondent for cnbc. good to see you. are you surprised by carson winning? how does it fit into the overall 2016 picture in your mind? >> not terribly surprised. the significance is not significantly large. it shows that ben cars son one of the -- carson is one of the candidate who's has juice with the conservative republican base especially religious conservatives, and the more candidates that are there and are able to stick around, it's fragmenting the field and making it difficult to map out who's going to become a top ten candidate. i don't think it's going to be feeiorina or carson. but they'll have impact. >> if you don't think it's going to be ben carson based on the interview that you conducted recently which was great, by the way, played big chunks on the

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the only woman in the gop field does not get to the stage>> the republicans are not eager for that to happen there are various ways in which news organization run the debates. fox laid out their criteria. the top ten would be included. now, ten is a nice round number. it mchs numbers that have been on the stages before. what if you have five people tied at number ten? don't know how they'll handle that. the second debate, i believe, is on cnn. i think they announced a two-tier format where you have ten in one portion, ten in another. i think we'll have to let a little time past and see whether some of the people who say they're exploring find out they can't raise such money. in the past we've had the iowa straw poll as kind of a -- a ground that cost a lot for people to participate.

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the police. this animosity toward the police is fed not just by stories that tv watchers and internet clickers are attracted to but by police officers' affronts intended or not to honest people treated as criminals by unnecessarily brutal treatment of suspected arrestees. by daily sleights and disrespect real and imagined. and by the isolation of the police from the people they serve. >> joining me is jay wendell gordon criminal lawyer who practices practices. how unusual is it for a judge to try to temper the verdict, if you will by offering a national context? >> well it is perhaps unusual

but not uncommon. often in high-profile cases the court uses the opportunity with the media present to kind fof give his --not his spin but his take on the facts and evidence and maybe send a message to the world who may be listening and concerned about the impact of the verdict. he wanted to let the world understand that he's sensitive to the differences of opinions that this case has generated. at the same time, he's duty bound to apply the facts to the law and come up with a fair and just decision based. the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt as he finds it. just because he finds it one way doesn't mean it could not have been found another. he is the fact finder. his way actually ends up being the way that the case will be ultimately decided. >> that particular case. do you appreciate that jay wendell? do you think that's a good idea? is that a judge's role? >> is it his role?

not necessarily his role. but i think judges need to humanize the emotion and to validate things that people are feeling. and in doing so, i thought this was a prudent way to deliver his opinion. so i don't have a problem with it. in fact, we appreciate it. >> okay. let's look ahead here. as the justice department as you know, is reviewing this case how might that proceed? what do you think the possible results are? a lot of officers have already been disciplined in one way or another for this. >> it depends on whether or not the justice department is focused -- focused on officer brelo or everyone else. i think they'll be looking at the case to determine whether or not there's a pattern of practice or whether or not someone's constitutional right were violated. and their analysis will be somewhat different than that conducted on the state level. i don't -- >> can i -- you're talking about the officer brelo focus versus

the entire police department focus. what about the 62 police cruisers that are chasing this one car? i mean how can you focus on this case, on behalf of the justice department on just officer brelo? don't you have to look at it in totality? >> absolutely. i would have thought they would have done that in this particular case. but they failed to do so. i'm looking for a more -- to be honest, i am looking for more thorough investigation from the department of justice. however, their task becomes that much more difficult in light of the acquittal of officer brelo. i mean because the -- the problem in this case is that they couldn't determine who shot whose -- whose gun the fatal shots came from. and actually who the shooters were. they kind of know who the shooters were but can't necessarily match a particular shooter with the fatal shot. and that's going to be a problem that's never going to change in this case. >> considering all the shots fired, 137, my heavens. in a broader context,

nationally how quickly can things change? not just in cleveland but in ferguson or south carolina or baltimore, where you are? >> when you say how quickly can they change, i mean what do you mean by that? >> in terms of how quickly can thing change for the better? when you have justice department investigations, when you have suggestions of better police training, i mean -- my sense is it's not going happen overnight. >> you know -- no, it's not going to happen overnight. and you know the just department seems to be everywhere nowadays. seems like police departments across the country are running amok and not able to enforce the law in accordance with the dictates of the constitution. it's -- we didn't get here overnight, so it's not going to be resolved overnight. i think a strong just department can kind of right the ship and set best practices for this country. i think that the way this case resulted in brelo's cowboy

tactics does nothing to ensure confidence in the way individuals are policed in their community and, in fact it -- in the lawyer's comments afterwards, they weren't helpful at all. in fact, they were despicable in my opinion. >> all right thanks for weighing in. appreciate it. >> thank you. let's get more on cleveland and the political issues surfacing this week. we're joined by howard dean former democratic national committee chair and governor of vermont. and msnbc political analyst michael steele former chairman of the republican national committee and lieutenant governor of maryland. hi, good to see you both. howard, i'm going to reach out to you first. when you heard the cleveland verdict, what's your gut reaction? is it a bit of a here we go again feeling? >> there is a little bit of a here we go again feeling. in some ways he got off on a technicality. that is this guy was killed by police bullets, and the reason that nobody got convicted is because nobody could tell which bullet was which. >> right. >> well that's disturbing. that is really disturbing. and i agree with the attorney that the comments of the lawyer

for the plaintiff -- for the defendant were despicable and stupid. so we have a long way to go here. the only good thing is that i do think there's a better discussion about this than there was when i was in the '60s when this stuff was really tremendously. a tremendous amount of violence over this. so i have some hope. cases like this make you shake your head. >> did you hear the last question when i said how long do you think it's going to take to affect change? you're talking about the difference in the '60s to now. and we're seeing some difference. but not significant. >> right. i think it's true. it's just -- a constant struggle. you have to be on top of it all the time. >> all right. when you were lieutenant governor of maryland i mean we've seen what's happened in baltimore last month. is there a sense these high profile cases may help resolve the policing actions? 62 cruisers chasing one car. >> you know not only 62 cruisers but 137 bullets.

i mean the defendant in this case alone shot somewhere close to 49 bullets into the car. that is a percent of the police training apparatus that i think these high-profile cases cause us to look at. you know you have the militarization of the police since 9/11. we've had that discussion for the first time in earnest since these shootings have become more profile. how we train the police how that relates into community policing itself the relationship between the community and the police we see this played out in a city like baltimore every day. the black community saying we don't have a relationship here anymore. at some point this is going to pop off. it is going to become a problem. now that it has, i think the country's in a better position to have the conversation. the one take, didaway i have when you look at the -- the takeaway i have, when you look at the upcoming baltimore case the state's attorney had better

have her act together here. it is one thing to go and pontificate the political rhetoric at the time that makes everyone feel good. the equivalent of i feel your pain. but her job as the state prosecutor is to prove the case. so the evidence will matter here to reach that bar. and so there are a lot of identifiable issues as well as problems that you'll see going forward in cases like this. >> all right. i want to -- >> make it quick, please. >> i was going to say, michael brings up a great point. in the zimmerman case where trayvon martin was murdered in fact the reason for his acquittal was an incompetent prosecutor and judge who didn't know the law. so it's true that the law enforcement people have to have their prosecutors have to have their act together. a lot of them don't. >> guys, i do need to get to the white house and the middle east here. the administration's been under fire for its handling of iraq, the recent advances made by

isis. white house press secretary josh earnst defended the president's strategy. the president told "the atlantic" this week i don't think we're losing against isis. but the loss of the iraqi city of ramadi palmyra that's significant. can the u.s. withstand the message that the u.s. is winning the war against isis howard? >> this is very complicated. i'm going to make this prediction -- iraq is finished as a country. so is syria. these were lines that were drawn almost 100 years ago. and that's not -- these are not countries anymore. the sooner the state department and our administration figures this out the more realistic we'll be. i think isis will be a fleeting phenomenon there. i was talking to an egyptian guy involved in tahrir square yesterday by skype. he pointed out if they're not expanding, they're contracting. they're going to be contracting soon enough. do not try to restore the map of the middle east. it's gone done the bush invasion precipitated that. it was -- maybe it was going to happen anyway we have to think

completely differently than we do today about syria and remember. they do not exist as countries, and they will not again. >> your take michael? >> i think howard put his finger on the nightclub of it. how the u.s. -- the nub of it. how the u.s. and bush administration looked at the middle east the last 50 years and not caught on to the undercurrents of change that are evolving the landscape there, changing the map. it is cultural political, religious, it is all these factors that has reshaped the paradigm there. and the question for our state department and especially the next administration democrat or republican, is what lens are you going to look at this region through? are you going to have the same old lens that we had for the last 50-plus years or come to the table with a different perspective, understanding what an isis means, what a new syria, a new iraq and what this region is going to look like over the next ten years let alone the next 50. >> i'm going to add that colonel jack jacobs yesterday said he believes that iraq itself will devolve into three states, the

sunni, shia and kurds. that's how he see its happening. he's echoing you -- >> i said that 12 years ago when george bush invaded. i predicted that would happen. it is. >> you're the man as always. howard dean, thank you very much. as are you michael steele. thanks. >> thank you. we'll be right back. plus 10 gigs of shareable data. yeah, 10 gigantic gigs. for $80 a month. and $15 per line. more data than ever. for more of what you want. on the network that's #1 in speed, call, data, and reliability. so you never have to settle. $80 a month. for 10 gigs. and $15 per line. stop by or visit us online. and save without settling. only on verizon.

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the iraqi forces just showed no will to fight. they were not outnumbered. in fact, they vastly outnumbered the opposing force.

and yet they failed to fight, they withdrew from the site, and that -- that says to me -- and i think to most of us -- that we have an issue with the will of the iraqis to fight isil and defend themselves. >> that's defense secretary carter pronouncing that iraqi troops have flow will to fight. meanwhile -- no will to fight. meanwhile, this is a new video of troops and iraqi aircraft launching counterattacks against isis forces outside of ramadi. steven nice to see you. what does it say if at this point in the battle against isis rear hear -- we're hearing our troops lack the will to fight? >> we need to hear what it is, not what we hope it would be. we see hundreds of billions of dollars in training money in iraq go down the drain.

it means that the political equation equation, as we have discussed before inside remember remains unresolved. the reason many iraqis are not fighting is the country does not feel co-hesive. you have made inside the anbar region who detest baghdad and its governance. they are acquiesceing even to isis. it's a nasty knot. >> i'm going to sdmu about 30 seconds -- ask you in about 30 seconds, what do we do next? how do the iraqi forces get inspired, get trained? we've spent, as you said so much doing this, so much time. how does it get better? >> i don't know if it gets better. the only choice i think we have is to tell the prime minister in iraq to arm the sunni tribes. they don't want to do that, but they've got to make the sunnis real stakeholders in the outcomes. if that involves risks yes, they may turn on the baghdad government. but the country will discover if they don't do that -- will dissolve it f they don't do. that we've been on the sidelines

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