s is "now." >> don't underestimate me. taking aim, there is no mistaking who bernie sanders is going after as he revs up his underdog campaign. >> oh i think it's hard not to acknowledge that hillary clinton is the first option. >> the first democratic challenger to hillary clinton. >> he represents going to the lab. he wants to be the happy warrior in this contest. >> it's hard to find who politicians who are more different. bernie sanders is the ultimate anti-politician. >> it's not like bernie sanders is a dogcatcher. he's united states senator. >> just moments from now at 5:00 eastern time the democratic presidential field will officially double. speaking from his hometown of burlington, vermont, independent senator bernie sanders will announce his candidacy as a democrat for president of the united states.

what does this mean for the newly enlarged democratic field? senator sanders, a self-described democratic socialist, started his political career by defeating a five-term democratic burlington mayor during the height of reagan era anti-communist zeal. sanders proceeded to make good will visits to the soviet union and to cuba and to establish a sister city with the communist nicaragua. he buses seniors into canada to buy cheaper prescription drugs. but in the context of presidential primaries, today's pressing question is will he give hillary clinton a hard time? so far, the answer seems to be yes. sanders, the presidential candidate, has already proposed free tuition at all public colleges along with a tax on all wall street trades. and on the eve of his announcement sanders criticized clinton and her six-figure speaking fees in a much more

personal fashion. >> when you hustle money like that you don't sit in places like this. you spent in restaurants where -- i don't know what they spend, hundreds of dollars on dinner. that's the world that you're accustomed to and that's the world view that you adopt. that type of wealth, you know has the potential to isolate you from the reality of the world. >> is hillary clinton the establishment? >> i think it's hard not to acknowledge. >> joining me now from burlington is the host of ed schultz, who just interviewed senator sanders at his home. let's listen to a piece of that interview. >> if we don't turn this around we're looking not at a democratic form of society, and in vermont, if we have one person, one voted on at a town meeting, you're looking at a society where billionaires control not only the economy, but the political process as well and that we cannot allow to happen. >> ed, thanks for joining the show. congrats on the big day, the interview. in just a few minutes, actually the official announcement.

how focused is bernie sanders on hillary clinton at this point? what sense did you get from him in speaking him today? >> well you know alex the one thing, when you spend time with bernie sanders, you talk about issues. you don't talk about hillary clinton. you don't talk about the field. he wants to get to the presidency. get the nomination. get to the white house. the same way he became the mayor of burlington, vermont. this is a very festive occasion here. and of course this is bernie country. the question is is bernie sanders politics of never running a negative ad does it play outside of vermont's border? he thinks it does. i said well what kind of response are you getting around the country? he said well we opened up a situation where we're going to have a town hall in minneapolis, and within one hour, we had over 500 people sign up. it's that grass roots stuff that bernie's counting on. he knows he's not going to take the big pac money, because it's out of his philosophical

operation. he will take money from some working groups. most of the money he's got right now has been a $40 average. that's how he wants to do it. the old-fashioned bernie way. retail politics. and as long as you can stay focused on the issues bernie will spend a lot of time talking to you. he doesn't want to get into the mud-slinging. he's not running against hillary, he's running for the people. and that's what you take away. >> indeed it is a festive atmosphere. i know there's music going on behind you. so thank everybody for bearing with us, and thank you, ed, for bearing with the festivities behind you. what are you hearing from folks on the ground in vermont as bernie barn storms the state? >> well you always want to talk to people right away when you get on the ground. so i thought i'd ask the guy driving us from the airport today. what do you think of bernie sanders? the first word he said unspoiled. and then he said when i first met bernie years ago, i thought

he was kind of goofy. but then over time i started listening to him a lot more. and now i think he's one of the best things washington's got going and one of the best things vermont's ever had. this is a man who can't be bought. this is a man who will speak his mind. he's focused on the issues. he thinks there's a better america for his seven grandchildren. he thinks there's a better job out there for his four kids. he wants to better america. he doesn't want to get off into the weeds. talking about the gossip politics that might be part of our media culture today. bernie's about the people. this is a man who won re-election in vermont and never ran a television ad. he did nothing but town hall meetings. it's going to be interesting to see how he plays in iowa. when it comes to grass roots, this guy is as pure as it gets. >> our own ed schultz right

where the action is. ed, thanks for the time. thanks for that info. you can, of course watch ed's full interview with senator sanders coming up at 5:00 eastern right here on msnbc. joining me now is david corn and eugene robinson. eugene, let me start with you. ed schultz saying bernie sanders does not want to get involved in the mud slinging of partisan or single party politics in the case of hillary clinton. do you think he can avoid that in the coming weeks and months? >> the can if he wants to, but the question is how far can he get? i have new orleans respectenormous respect for him and i think he's been a really good senator and he's a fascinating fascinating politician, a good politician as well. but i really have doubts as to whether he can get elected president running a 19th century campaign in the 21st century. you know, retail politics works in vermont.

i don't think it can work on a larger scale. >> one would say even if you are running retail a sort of hand-to-hand retail operation, david corn there are going to be things you say in the course of that retail politicking that will get picked up in a very 21st century way and one of them is the comment today about hillary clinton, about the clintons' ss hustling for money like that. which i thought to many democratic ears was almost wince-worthy. >> there's a difference between critiquing or criticizing your political opponents, and running negative tv ads. he doesn't do negative tv ads, says he's not going to do them now. but if he's out there taking shots at hillary, critiquing her positions and differentiating himself, as politicians like to call it he'll get coverage for that. just the way everyone picked up on the john harwood interview today. so they'll get what they call

free media if he goes about critiquing hillary clinton. he'll certainly be seen by voters in new hampshire and iowa. whether if he stays beyond that he can get that debate going on a national level and some bigger states where people don't maybe pay as much attention to the retail politics and the day in day out coverage, i don't know. but for now, the media wants a race on the democratic side. anything he says about hillary clinton will get a lot of attention. >> the deeper message beyond hillary was that politicians don't listen to the working class anymore. i mean, and there is a study out today, i think matt iglesias writes about it, studies show that politicians are heavily swayed by the public opinion among rich people but do not care what poor people think.

just by having a candidate who speaks to those issues that then becomes a subject of debate both among democrats and also in general. >> i would argue that politicians are further away from the working class and so is the media, frankly farther away from the concerns of the working class. so for somebody to be talking about that and to be in touch, it can change the tenor of the debate. he certainly has potential for changing or skewing hillary clinton's positions as we go forth. he can get some tractions on the liberal side of that party and she'll have to respond to that. >> it is a grass roots effort that he is making. not just in scooby van name but

practically speaking. if you look at his donations, i think he has raised money from more than 100,000 individual donors since he announced in late april. they've given an average of $42 each. the question is hillary clinton's war chest will ultimately far dwarf bernie sanders. the grass roots folks, do they ultimately in general if hillary clinton becomes a nominee, do they then throw their support behind the clinton team? i mean i feel like they're almost outliers in the democratic party and i don't know that they necessarily caucus with the clinton team in the end. >> this is what we need to see in the next few months. everyone's presumption is that hillary clinton is going to win one way or the other. that's kind of the correct presumption. the issue to me is whether bernie -- we all call him by his first name. it's not a sign of disrespect. it's a sign of affection.

to me the question is whether bernie is going to be attracting 5% under 10% of democratic voters and caucus goers, or whether he'll get up above 20 and 30% and have much more powerful presence and become really perhaps a threat to her in certain places. there is no way of knowing that yesterday. he's obviously being considered seriously by a hundred thousand people out there who participate in democratic party politics. and it's a good base. it's a good starting point. he's doing better now than martin o'malley. so that's something. >> eugene corn -- how about that. in another universe. david corn and eugene robinson thank you so much for your time. coming up, we'll go live to texas where the state is dealing with crippling historic flooding. drem plus demonstrators were back in cleveland today. i'll speak with the brother of

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the city of cleveland has reached a settlement with the justice department today over what it calls a pattern of unreasonable and unnecessary use of force by the police. under the agreement, federal officials will monitor and oversee the implementation of a series of strict reforms to police practices across the city. the head of the justice department's civil rights division hailed today's settlement as a model for the nation. >> today, cleveland demonstrates to the rest of the country that people can come together across perceived differences to realize a common vision of a safer and more just city. i am deeply optimistic that transformation is coming to cleveland. >> this afternoon, demonstrators

began to gather in the streets of cleveland for a rally for change. today's agreement with the justice department comes after a weekend of massive protests in cleveland over the acquittal of a police officer in the fatal 2012 shooting of two unarmed individuals, both of whom were african-american. joining me now is former state senator from ohio co-chair of the ohio task force on community police relations, nina turner. thanks for joining me. let's first get to the settlement today. are you happy with it? >> i am. i agree with what mayor jackson had to say about it. today marks a new day in policing in cleveland. it is exactly what we have to do, what we must do have the courage to confront and the korge courage to be confronted. far too long this kind of justice or injustice in this system particularly towards african-americans in communities of color, we have to begin to turn the tide. this is a new day in cleveland. >> it bears mentioning.

your husband and son were involved in law enforcement. there's talk of two clevelands. do you think that there are? >> that goes without saying. my son is 25 years old. a police officer. my husband a former police officer. so i get both sides of this. my family members have been racially profiled, but i understand what it means to want and make sure that your loved one who does have the badge comes home safely. but we have to do that in a way that provides justice to the communities that police serve, but also making sure that we understand that when injustice happens, we deal with it. for far too long in this country, we have turned a blind eye. i mean a collective we. whether it's folks in the elected ministry or otherwise, have turned a blind eye to the suffering and the cries of african-american community. and all the african-american community is asking for is trust and accountability. you mentioned the governor's task force on community and police relations. we traveled this entire state, and to a person even people who poured out their hearts like the father of john crawford iii, he

lost his son in wal-mart outside of the cincinnati area. all people are asking for is for justice. we need the police and the police need the community. but we have to come to a day of reckoning and that is that day. today is that day. not just in cleveland. but all over this country, we must turn this thing around. >> well you know, that old saying -- that law of physics, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. i believe last fall nine of the 13 officers who were involved in the 2012 shooting of mr. russell and his friend in the car, they filed a lawsuit alleging reverse racial discrimination after being punished for three days -- with three days of administrative leave and 45 days of restricted duty. that i think to some folks didn't seem like that big of a punishment. if you're looking at the guidelines set forth in the settlement, there are new firearms rules. there's a civilian monitor

inside the police department. there is more transparency and data collection around use of force incidents. are you concerned that police officers may push back against this? >> i mean, i can't speak for those particular police officers and how they feel. but this is one thing that i do know. when you have large swaths of a particular community who do not believe in the system anymore, you know this is bigger than the brelow case. this is about the injustices that have been happening to people of color and poor people for generations in this country and we have to deal with it. and we need good police officers to stand up and say enough is enough. we travel one young man, we had to be in his 20s, he said a lot of time police officers talk about the no-snitch culture among the criminal element. but how about the no-snitch element among police officers? by and large, most officers go out every day and do the thing on behalf of the people that they serve. but when you see injustice, we have to unite. so this is not an african-american problem.

this is an american problem. and black, white, latino asian, gay, straight jew, gentile, we all have to come together and do something about it. i want to commend greater cleveland congregations with pastor colvin for bringing together a center of community. we thing he said that i think is key, he said this is not about the brelow case. our target is the justice system itself. this is not just about the officers on the street but this is about the entire system. we must come to grips with it and do the right thing. >> former state senator from ohio nina turner, thanks so much for your time. >> thank you. >> it was that police shooting in 2012 in cleveland that led the justice department to investigate the city's police force in the first place. 13 police officers fired 137 rounds of ammo into a vehicle with two unarmed individuals. both victims, melissa williams and timothy russell died of gunshot wounds.

none of the officers involved were convicted. joining me now is the brother of one of the victims in that case mike russell. and the russell family attorney paul crystalo. thanks for joining me. mike, just from -- your brother was gunned down. what do you make of the decision not to charge officer brelow in the case? not to convict him? >> well, i think it was wrong. i really thought that he would have got convicted based on the allegations and, you know the stuff that he got -- the evidence they got from that situation. >> paul, when you look at this case were you surprised by the outcome? >> we weren't surprised. in discussing this case with the russell family, i tried to prepare him that brelow would walk. so it wasn't a surprise although it was disappointing. >> why did you think from the outset that brelow would walk? >> because, you know i always

wondered how they were going to be able to prove that one officer -- although he did shoot 49 bullets on his own from the hood of the car down towards tim and melissa. how they were going to prove which bullets actually killed tim and melissa. and sure enough that became a problem in terms of the criminal trial. other officers -- 12 other officers shot at tim and melissa. they weren't being charged. so to some degree i felt that on some level, this was holding up brelow as kind of the poster child for police overreaction but it wasn't necessarily going to mean that we were going to figure out who killed tim and melissa and why. >> let me follow up on that paul. officer brelow is the second officer in ohio to face charges in a decade. so i guess that brings to mind the question you know can the state hold its law enforcement officers accountable given the infrequency of charging them in

cases where it's use of deadly force and there's some questions around it. >> well alex, you're absolutely right. it was historic i guess, in a sense when brelow got charged. but the burden of proof -- and a lot of things go into it. the evidence that was in front of judge o'donnell. he had to deal with the evidence that was in front of him. but you're absolutely right. police officers are seldom if ever made accountable on the criminal level for criminal charges. so in a sense, the fact that he was charged is a sense of justice, i guess, the system working. >> to that end, mike today there's a very very high-profile announcement, a settlement that the doj has made with the law enforcement in cleveland, and there are a lot of reforms that are set to take place in the cleveland police force. i wonder if that gives you hope. mike? >> well, yeah. you know i really hope -- i'm pretty sure that it will be some changes made throughout that.

and i just don't like the fact that you know lives got to be lost for changes to be made. >> indeed. mike russell and paul cristallo, thank you guys both for your time. >> thanks alex. >> thank you. coming up president obama offered federal support to texas today as that state copes with extreme flooding. we'll go live to one of the hardest hit cities coming up next. time upon a once people approached problems the way same. always start at the starting. and questions the same asking. but that only resulted in improvements small. so we've got some ideas new. garbage can create energy. light can talk. countries can run on jet engine technology. when you look at problems in ways different you new solutions find. ♪ ♪ right now, verizon is offering unlimited talk and text. plus 10 gigs of shareable data. yeah, 10 gigantic gigs.

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>> reporter: hey alex. this is the debris from a cabin that was on the banks of the blanco river then swallowed by the river at the height of the flooding. the water climbing 25 feet in just an hour ripping apart homes and families here. from the air, and in the light of day, the streets of houston look more like canals after flash floods swept across the area overnight. more than ten inches of rain in some areas in just hours. cars, trucks even tractor trailers were no match for the rising flood waters that overwhelmed dozens of city streets. response teams carried out more than 500 high water rescues throughout the night and into the day. >> just use good common sense. stay out of the high water. don't drive into the high water. >> reporter: in women berimberlywimberly texas, the search goes on for 12 people after the blanco river crested at more than 40 feet saturday

night. >> we have 12 missing. we have over 30 people unaccounted for. >> among the missing, two families with children. >> my sister will always be my sister. >> reporter: laura mccomb made a frantic call to her sister julie as the flood waters took their cabin. >> the house we were in the roof collapsed. and we were now floating down the river. called mom and dad. i love you. and pray. >> reporter: her husband jonathan was found almost 12 miles down river, laura and their two kids still listed as missing. >> the blessing in all of this is that she is with her children. and she is with her babies and she will be with her babies always in heaven and we know that as a family. >> reporter: a family like this area, torn apart by the water and still searching for answers. and that search will continue forecasters warn, with more significant rain here over the next several days.

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and now, the stories that will dominate what is left of this mercifully short four-day workweek. hillary clinton's campaign stores open for business selling items like the everyday pantsuit t-shirt. why are so many lawmakers sleeping in their capitol hill offices? is it because they don't get paid enough? and if you are a 2016 long shot is a cable tv studio in new york a better place to campaign than new hampshire and iowa? but first, rand paul has been accused by both sides of grandstanding for last week's 11-hour quasi-filibuster protesting the nsa. paul's stand occurred one day after the publication of his latest page-turner, perhaps not

coincidentally titled "taking a stand." simultaneously, team paul began offering this $30 filibuster starter pack on randpaul.com. the campaign lurch is really to the stratosphere. all of this drew the ire of security hawks, including john mccain who said of the filibuster, i'm sure it's a great revenue raiser. the e-mails are out now and they were out in the 11-hour performance a couple days ago. paul's filibuster also elicited this eye-roll from senator lindsey graham. this morning, senator paul defended himself. >> i think that's an unfair characterization. i think most people who know me and have watched my career would say that if anything i'm very sincere about this issue. i'm proud of the fight and so i think there will always be naysayer and people who want to snatch at you for different reasons. >> so it's not about selling books? >> no i think it's really about to me the bill of rights. >> joining me now is

editor-in-chief of "reason" matt welch, eric bates, and david corn. okay matt. so is this in some way shady or unethical to be fundraising off of a filibuster as rand paul did? >> hell, no. if this is the result of cynical fundraising, can we have more of that in washington right now? the vote on the patriot act extension of 215 and the other provisions we don't know what's going to happen with that. ten days ago, two weeks ago, we had a pretty good idea that somehow mitch mcconnell would orchestrate this and wave his magic wands and make it happen. rand paul got in the way of it happening. regardless if this is a perfectly time thinged for his book, which comes out today, it nonetheless is affecting the policy. so good on him if it's cynical. >> and if there's a promotional t-shirt to go along with it eric bates -- >> among all the money that's

raised. >> david, the lindsey graham eye roll we can just play that on loop during this discussion part. but the ire of his fellow republicans. keep in mind, rand paul basically scuttled the legislative actions of the senior senator from kentucky mitch mcconnell. it's amazing to see the infighting, or just the sort of rand fighting that's happening in the u.s. congress in the upper chamber right now. >> they're just getting started, alex. this will be very good for ratings. to begin with -- >> or maybe not. go ahead. >> rand paul doesn't need, you know, campaign financing to justify grandstanding. he's done it before without running for president. he'll do it more as he runs for president. but what's happening here is there really is a blood feud

within the republican party between the national security hawks represented there by john mccain and lindsey "eye-rolling" graham. they're battling for the heart and soul of the party in terms of whether it's an aggressive hawkish party or not. >> there's the eye roll. >> rand paul has actually conceded territory to the other side of late. and has sort of trimmed back a bit of his anti-interventionism when it comes to isis and others, because he doesn't want to get too far separated or distanced from the main stream of his hawkish party. >> and i would ask you. we've talked about this. he was trimming his libertarian -- do you trim sales? is that the nautical metaphor? well anyway. but he had -- i mean i think, lost some ground on the issues that david corn just stipulated. that this is a way to get back

with the fold is it not? >> he's going to be against the patriot act no matter what. his first day in senate, he was against it. the filibuster. in 2012, the republican national convention. he talked about the patriot act even then. so he's always going to be talking about that. he came out and said i think we should support bombing isis to defend our military personnel and embassies, which was kind of a small carveout there. eng it was a way to -- how can i run in a republican primary and still win while being a skeptic of intervention. >> don't forget his flip-flop on aid to israel as well. >> that's a complicated issue for him. the 2016 crowd is getting ever more crowded. tomorrow rick santorum jumps in. george pataki. and they will be followed by lindsey graham and rick perry. what do these four have in common? low name recognition.

which may prevent them from being admitted to the first debate on august 6th. the remedy less time on the trail and more time on the box. "the wall street journal" reports strategists working for various campaigns said they expected long shot candidates to spend time in cable tv studios in new york. time that may instead have been used to meet voters at small events at iowa or new hampshire. eric bates, what do you think of this development or this piece of strategy more time in certain green rooms, not stipulating which ones. and less time handshaking, maybe in scooby vans across the country. >> well, you've got two choices. you've got to get -- you're in kind of a catch 22. you've got to get your -- i was about to say ratings. your poll numbers up enough that you get on the show. you get on the debate. >> the big show. the main stage. >> so that people will know who you are. or you get in the van and go out and try to when onein one of the early primaries. it's a crowded field.

some of them are going to make the choice to get the free media and to go on tv and try and get known that way. the question is how many people are going to be watching. are the right kinds of people going to be watching in order for that to bump their numbers up. >> you know who i feel sorry for, alex? i feel sorry for the fox news booker. hey, we got george pataki here. don't you just want george pataki? we have lindsey graham again! >> david, can i put on my cynic hat for a moment? not a hat i wear often. >> i'm sure it looks great on you. >> but one wonders whether the campaign trail is all that -- we sort of tend to think of that is the morally sort of more sterling option right? because you're out there meeting everyday options. but truly, all of that has become one gigantic photo on as you're trailed by a rabid pack of campaign reporters. is there goodness to be found on the trail at this point? >> your listening tour as you

listen to people before you say anything. a lot of this has become very stage managed. people in iowa and new hampshire demand that. they ask questions. they sit down. they feel they're being respected by the candidates and more power to them. but i don't think a lot of substance gets done. and if you're carly fiorina, what are you going to do go to dinah's in cedar rapids, or are you going to go to fox news cnn, and maybe even msnbc? >> yes. i mean certain green rooms would love to have carly fiorina. speaking of selling things matt, today the hillary clinton 2016 campaign store opened for business. must-have items like this everyday pantsuit tee. there's also a women's place is in the white house throw pillow. and the shattered glass ceiling pint glass. i think the pantsuit t-shirt is brilliant. it's like the 21st century version of the tuxedo tee.

>> i'm sure carly fiorina loves that pillow, too. >> it's a bipartisan pillow. >> if only creativity is spent, like rand paul's ray-bans. was he selling like an at-home drone? >> like if that amount of creativity was given to the actual policy. >> we may be entering a new campaign finance reform. at least a percentage of their take through merchandise, maybe that would be better and it's certainly a more sort of capitalist society way to finance a democracy. >> and you get a pint glass. instead of a politician. i know you preordered that shirt, david corn. >> plenty of them. i'm going to get the large version so i can sleep in it. >> that's a great visual. and we'll leave the segment there. matt welch, eric bates, and david corn. thank you, gentlemen, for your

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"washington post" reporter jason resian has been accused of espionage and imprisoned for more than a year in one of iran's most notorious prisons. the trial is not open to the public and is expected to last two to three days. rezaian was arrested with his wife last june at their home in teheran. the espionage charges he faces are punishable by death in iran. in an interview, his brother ali insisted the trial's secrecy was

proof the government had no case. >> trying to make a case that there's some kind of security reason that the trial should be closed is absolutely ridiculous. it's absolutely unfounded. i think the only reason you could possibly imagine that the trial would be closed would be to prevent people from seeing the lack of evidence. >> joining me now is executive director of the committee to protect journalists joel simon. thanks so much for joining me. i know cpj has been working on this case a while. what exactly do we know about the case that the iranian government has against jason rezaian? >> almost nothing. he was detained essentially in comminacado. we don't know the charges against him. we don't know what evidence has been brought forward. this is really not a judicial process. it's almost like a hostage taking or a kidnapping. you know, this is being dressed up as a legal process, but there's nothing legal about this. >> the consequences could be

dire. as we stipulated in the intro there, the espionage charges are punishable by death and the judge has a reputation for very, very tough sentences. i believe he's been blacklisted for human rights abuses. so i mean what is the sense that you get about possible outcomes here? >> well i would not want to predict the outcomes. i mean i think that ultimately the framework for this whole proceeding is that this is some sort of internal power struggle it's some sort of effort to try and extract some sort of concessions in the context of the nuclear negotiation. that's what many observers believe. this is very very serious. it's very serious for jason and his family. it's very serious for "the washington post." but it's hard to predict how this is going to play out. >> you talk about it as if it is a hostage situation and you mention the iran nuclear talks. i mean have you -- has cpj been in touch with the government?

to what degree do you sense that the white house has this on their radar and this is something that they are discussing behind the scenes? >> well, the white house is absolutely concerned about this and president obama has made that clear. secretary kerry. we know this has come up on the sidelines of the negotiation, but nobody wants to see this linked to the negotiation. except for perhaps iranian hardliners. you're playing into their game if you do that. so this has been raised by senior u.s. officials on the sidelines of the negotiations, we know that. but i don't think that anyone certainly in the u.s. administration wants to see this linked. >> i think it bears mentioning that this is a particularly troubled time for journalists, especially those reporting from the middle east. i mean we basically have no eyes and ears on the ground in syria where their conflict has left over 200,000 people dead. in a place like iran we say chilling effect over and over again, but this has drastic consequences for news and information. and a free society. >> absolutely.

i think one way to con textualize this is to consider that there have been more journalists killed in the last couple years than ever according to cpj's documentation, and more journalists in prison around the world. there's understandably a lot of emphasis on jason's case. he's an american journalist imprisoned in iran but there are about 30 iranian journalists in prison there. iran is one of the world's lead in journalists. president rouhani came into power there promising some kind of reform. it has not taken place. it remains very controlled. >> it is distressing -- the developments in this case are distressing. if you look at them in the broader context, it is even more so. joel simon, great work that you guys are doing. thanks for your time. >> thanks for having me. >> we will have more after the break. assistance is there 24/7. oh dear, i got a flat tire. hmmm. uh... yeah, can you find a take where it's a bit more dramatic on that last line, yeah? yeah i got it right here. someone help me!!! i have a flat tire!!!

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gerard depardieu has always been a big fan of vladimir putin. in 2013 he fled his native france to become a russian citizen in order to avoid paying higher taxes. and now the 66-year-old actor says he is "ready to die for his new adopted homeland." after bragging to "vanity fair" about drinking 14 bottles of alcohol a day, depardieu told the magazine "i am ready to die for russia because the people there are strong. i absolutely do not want to die a fool in modern-day france." depardieu's love of russia is so strong, that he is reportedly planning to stage a free concert in the self-proclaimed donetsk people's republic. no word yet on advanced ticket sales or whether they will accept euros or rubles only. ♪ i found my thrill on blueberry hill ♪

♪ but blueberry hill where i found you ♪ >> it's so catchy. that's all for now. "the ed show" is up next live from burlington vermont, where senator bernie sanders is about to officially launch his campaign. that's next. good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show," live from burlington, vermont. any minute now, vermont senator bernie sanders will officially kick off his presidential campaign here from waterfront park. when senator sanders takes the stage, we will bring you his remarks live. but first, we're awaiting a news conference from texas governor greg abbott and houston mayor parker following the severe flooding in the texas area over the weekend. senator ted cruz will also participate in the press conference. at this hour 12 are confirmed dead in texas and oklahoma. 13