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right now on "andrea mitchell reports," the deluge, texas hit again after floods destroy entire communities. today, a dam outside dallas could break. actually had water, lots and lots of water pouring over the top, giving an immediate imminent warning they were thinking that this dam was any second. southern strategy. hillary clinton is in south carolina for the first time since an epic defeat to barack obama in 2008. she's being shadowed by the only woman in the republican race. >> i'm criticizing hillary clinton because i come from a world where a title is just a title, and talk is just talk. actions speak louder than words, and people want to know what is your track record and what you have actually accomplished.
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and red card for fifa. soccer's top executives arrested amidst accusations, accused of millions in bribery and kickbacks. >> many of the individuals and organizations we will describe today were entrusted with keeping soccer open and accessible to all. instead, they corrupted the business of worldwide socker to serve their interests and to enrich themselves. good day, everyone, i'm andrea mitchell coming to you from columbia, south carolina where hillary clinton is campaigning today in a state she lost badly to barack obama in 2008. more on that in a moment. first, to the severe weather that continues to hammer the southwest. at least 19 people have been killed since historic flooding
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and rain began in texas and oklahoma over the weekend. at least five people have died in houston the nation's fourth largest city where residents awoke under a flash flood warning this morning. texas governor greg abbott disastered disaster declarations for 46 counties. mary fallon toured damage in her state today. south of dallas official have evacuated residents living downstream in a dam they fear could break. joining me from houston is charles hadley. what's the situation there? is there any sign the water is receding? >> reporter: houston got what it didn't need today. about another inch of rain. we were under a flash flood warning here. but take a look at this -- blue skies. that's something we haven't seen for days. on monday night, we got about 11 inches of rain in houston. six of those inches fell in one day. and it made the buffalo bayou down at the bottom of the screen swell out of its banks
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yesterday. houston was a mess with freeways under water, underpasses swallowed up with a lot of water, people couldn't go anywhere. there were people who drowned when they accidentally drove into the water. as you mentioned, five people have died in houston because of the weather. two others are still missing. they were part of a rescue effort downtown when the water swept them away from the fire rescue boat they were in. that is downtown houston. the buffalo bayou goes around downtown houston and into the ship channel and got the gulf of mexico. of the good news is the water is receding here. the bad news is, we could get more rain over the next few days andrea? >> of course the terribly sad story of lori mccomb who spoke to her sister julie shields. julie shields talking about her missing sister and the two children the husband of that family is hospitalized.
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listen to what julie had to say. >> there was nothing he could have done. he did everything he could possibly do. the blessing in all of this is that she is with her children. she is with her babies and she will public her babies niagara falls heaven. >> just one of the very sad stories there. charles hadlock, what are we hearing about the dam south of dallas? >> reporter: i think it was a bad connection. >> i think we lost charles. we're keeping track on the weather. there may be a news conference, a briefing from texas. we'll bring it to you as soon as it happens. here in south carolina hillary clinton is back. this is her first trip here since a crushing primary defeat to barack obama in 2008. largely because of african-american voters. many of them following the lead of a favorite son, congressman jim clyborn, who had accused
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bill clinton of playing the race card back then. he's not the only candidate in the state cap tomitol today. carly fiorina is here where clinton will be speaking to women state legislators. joining me in columbia the "washington post's" ann guerin and msnbc correspondent joy reed. welcome both. great to see you. >> thank you. >> joy, she's been making with women voters already today. african-americans and others. the race issue was a big teal with bill clinton. jim clyburn took it personally. we can talk about that. clyburn nowhere to be seen today. and he says he's not going to endorse anyone in the primary. >> tellingly, clay middleton, former staffer to jim clayburn is running the operation for hillary clinton here. a lot of overt outreach to veterans of the barack obama campaign in 2008 and a real attempt on the part of the
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hillary clinton campaign to merge their campaign with obama world. you're seeing it in hillary clinton speaking to african-american women business owners today. she started her day at kiki's chicken and waffles, trying to ingratiate herself with members of the black community in columbia. i'm told that one of the things she's going to try to do to bring these two pieces of her base together african-americans and women, is to focus on equal pay. the campaign believing that's something that can bring women of all ethnicities together. she's got to get both groups excited. women and african-americans. they've got to get past what happened in 2008. i haven't seen much indication that people are holding a grudge or thinking about it, but it's still in the back of a lot of minds. >> in the back of their minds. >> and jim clyburn's book "blessed experiences." we spoke with him about that. this is the phone call he remembers at 2:15 in the morning
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after the primary defeat. hillary clinton did not make a concession speech. she left and went to tennessee. this is his recollection of what happened when former president bill clinton called him. listen. >> after several intermediate conversation this powerful voice came on the other end. if you bastards want a fight, you damn well will get one. i needed no help identifying that voice. it was bill clinton. the former president of the united states. >> so ann guerin, dpeem hold grudges. >> certainly bill clinton was absolutely livid. he was so angry that -- he felt that the rug had been pulled out from under him, and hillary clinton in 2008. he clearly did hold a grudge at the time. and certainly, you know clyburn was mad enough to put that entire unflattering episode in his book and talk about it
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later. there has been detant certainly directly between the clyburn camp and clinton camp. but as joy said more importantly for hillary clinton now, she's got to be able to build on a solid foundation of african-american support here and not always have to be second-guessing whether or not they really are going to support her in sufficient number. >> there's -- no evidence yet that it's hurting her with voters. but what about all the money stuff and whether that hurts her, anne, and connect to every day americans that she says she's the champion of. now you've got the $30 million in earnings from last year from the two or three of the clintons and the speeches money, the foundation, the emails. all of that adds up to a lot of money. she could well be the wealthiest of the candidates in 2016. >> yes. and i mean it makes an automatic asterisk for every time she talks about equal pay. today she's going to accuse republicans of standing in the
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way of passing some kind of national equal pay mandate or something that would help raise the floor for underpaid women. and many of the most underpaid jobs in the country held by women. she's going to try to unite the two things and hit republicans in the process. of course they can immediately, anyone can immediately turn around and say, yeah how about equal pay, like i'm not getting $250,000 or $350,000 for an hour's worth of a speech. i halloween -- i mean, how about nickel pay for that. >> the clintons one of the things both have been blessed with is the enemies that they attract. today, who is essentially epically trolling hillary clinton by being here? carly fiorina who, if you want to talk about issues of equal pay, is sort of the mitt romney of the current field on the republican side. a wealthy former ceo whose claim
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to fame was the way that hewlett-packard ended. the way her tenure ended at hewlett-packard which was also an ugly episode that involved a lot of layoffs. you're going to have that contrast that's actually going to be helpful to hillary clinton because she can point across the aisle and look at carly fiorina's record and say, you know, that's not really something americans, ordinary people can relate to -- >> i was talking to two women legislator, very excited to see hillary clinton, women sort of i'd say in their 60s, waiting already. and they said she needs to also attract these sort of country club republican women in a general election. and that is exactly the audience for carly fiorina. she's the only candidate in the republican field who is a woman and the only one going after hillary clinton. and it won't hurt her in a close primary, in the democratic race. but i think in a general election, if she does get the nomination, it could be a problem for her. >> yeah. i think you're right in the sense that hillary clinton wants that crossover appeal. she wants a huge gender gap that
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would ostensibly mean attracting independent women. and potentially republican women who see her as aspirational women, a fundamental part of her candidacy. when i talk to women 60 and above, they seem to be most enthusiastic about the idea of a woman being president. i think carly fiorina is wise to try to present herself as the republican alternate of. i think they both have issues that could detract from the ordinary not of their experience -- ordinariness of the arena. >> fiorina was the breakout star. more to come. great to see you, and anne. clinton will be speaking in an hour. now back to wimberly texas, and jay gray. wimberly has been so hard hit, jay. how are they holding up today? >> reporter: it's overwhelming. you see debris that stretches for miles. right now as you look behind me you see one of the cleanup teams out trying to work through what's been more rain today. the blanco river is still flowing quickly.
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but it's within its banks at this point. you see, though how powerful this water was. actually pulled the bark from the trees. it looks like a tornado, but that was done by the water here. it was very high, climbing 25 feet in just an hour, at 40 feet above its normal stage. this is what that does. you see the devastation to the home here that used to be along the lake, was swallowed by the waters. downed trees surrounding the area. add to that, they're still missing 1 people in this area alone -- 11 people in this area alone, 14 across texas. the search and rescue -- it's still being called a rescue mission here, has been hampered because of heavy rain at times. the choppers are doublewn, boats aren't on the water. crews are still going through the debris, trying to find anything they can. this effort is going continue for some time, andrea.
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>> i know that there were officials there who said there are 11 people missing, is that what you said jay in. >> reporter: yeah. 11 here including the family you talked about earlier laura mccombs and her two young children -- spoke to julie shields as their house was floating down the river. this is where it went. straight past this area on the river, eventually making downstream a bridge. it collided with that bridge. the family was all together at that time. we're told they were holding hands when that collision happened. it dropped off the bottom of that home and separated that family at the time. just a tragic story. one of several that's unfolding here now, andrea. >> thank you very much to jay gray there in texas. we'll of course stay with you for the latest as it develops. up next soccer shocker. dozens of arrests and millions of dollars at stake.
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joining me now is republican presidential candidate carly fiorina in south carolina as well today. ms. fiorina, thank you very much for being with us. >> it's great to be with you. >> you were the breakout star according to all reports from iowa last weekend, the biggest crowds especially when you went after hillary clinton. is that because your the only woman in the republican field? that you feel enabled to go after her? what is the strategy? >> it's interesting, i come from
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a world where titles are just titles and talk is just talk. it's only in politics where titles and words mean a lot. the rest of the world, it's actually about what have you done actions speak louder than words. people want to know are your actions and words consistent and consistent over time. i think when 82% of the american people now believe that there's a professional political class more interested in preserving its own power and privilege than it is in serving the american people people expect basic questions to be asked of anyone running for president. what have you done, are you trustworthy, are you transparent, will you answer questions? >> she's had a lifetime though in public service. going back too before she was first lady in -- going back to before she was first lady in arkansas. she can argue that she's got a record on women's issues from the beijing women's conference to her work with the children's defense fund, going up through the senate.
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senator from new york. that's a record. secretary of state. how do you compare yourself to her? >> first i would say, yes, she did -- she said many wonderful things at the beijing women's conference conference. she has without a doubt been a role model and a woman to be greatly admired by many women around the world. it's also true that as secretary of state she took women's rights and human rights off the table for discussion with china. it's also true as secretary of state she called bashar al assad a reformer. when kpechb as secretary of state she said iraq was a free, stable sovereign nation. now we have a nation falling apart, iranian influence growing, isis growing. it's true that she said she could reset our relationship with russia and vladimir putin is on the march. i think all of those things i just named go fundamentally to what is her track record.
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>> you could also argue that a lot of republicans in the white house and in congress supported those policies -- >> absolutely, that's right. every republican candidate has been asked about their vote for the war in iraq. the one person who's not been asked because she won't answer the question is hillary clinton. one person who was on the job in 2011 when iraq started to fall apart was not the republican nominees or -- candidates for president, it's hillary clinton. she hasn't been asked yet. what would she do now in iraq? >> she was asked and did say last week in new hampshire that it was a mistake. her vote in iraq. she wrote that in her book. she spoke about that in new hampshire and iowa. you're correct that she hasn't had a news conference -- she hasn't said what happened from 2011 when both she and president obama declared victory in iraq. they declared victory in iraq in 2011. she was the secretary of state. no one is declaring victory in iraq now.
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what happened? what would she have done? >> what would you do now against isis? >> i would do specific things. first, instead of having a camp david conference to talk our arab allies into a bad deal with iran, i would have had a camp david conference to talk with our arab allies about how we can support them to fight isis. let me give specific examples. the kurds have been asking us to arm them for three years. we still is not. the jordanians have been asking us to provide bombs and materiel. i've known king abdullah for years. he took the appropriate steps when a jordanian pilot was burned alive. he was asking for bombs and materiel, we haven't provided any of them. he's now looking to china for that. the egyptian president a brave and pius muslim who has said there's a cancer in the heart of muslim asked us to share intelligence. we are not. the turks have asked us to help them topple bashar al assad, we are not. there are a set of things we've been asked to do by our allies who know this is their fight.
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we're not doing -- doing any of them. i would talk about that. >> what about the issue of hillary clinton saying she represents everyday americans? here she's talking about equal pay. do you support equal pay for women? >> of course i support equal pay for equal work. that's in 1963 when a law was passed guaranteeing that if a woman is discriminated against in the work force purely because of her gender she should take every advantage of the law. i also know this -- a center system which exists in the federal government that allows a man to watch pornography all day long in the federal government and earn the same pay pension, and benefits as a woman sitting next to him trying to do a good job, that is not equal pay for equal work. the seniority system the federal government that promote that seniority system and the unions, as well they're not willing to talk about that. so before a federal government or hillary clinton, who by her own measures is not paying women equally in her own office, nor is president obama, before they lecture others, maybe they ought to look into their own offices
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or look into the seniority system and the federal government. >> are you being discriminated against by the republican national committee trying to keep you and others who haven't run before perhaps and don't have the name identification and the poll results yet? are you being discriminated against by being kept out of the initial debate? >> why do you assume i'm going to be kept out? the debates are not for another 11 weeks. i'm actually glad to have a goal. i'm glad to have clarity about what it take to get to that stage. and i will work very hard to meet the goal. >> thank you very much. great to speak with you. >> thank you very much. we'll be right back with more on politics more on the soccer scandal and more on the terrible tragedy unfolding in texas. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. put your hand over your heart. is it beating? good! then my nutrition heart health mix is for you. it's a wholesome blend of peanuts, pecans and other delicious nuts specially mixed for people with hearts. i said people with hearts.
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soccer, of course, the u.s. has charged 14 fifa soccer officials in a $150 million bribery scheme. allegedly dating back more than two decades. seven top soccer officials were arrested in switzerland this morning. today, attorney general loretta lynch in new york accused them of a long history of corruption. >> beginning in 1991 two generations of soccer official including the then-soccer federations under fifa, used their positions of trust within their respective organizations to solicit bribes from sports marketers in exchange for the commercial right to their soccer tournaments, they this over and over over, year after year tournament after tournament. >> i'm joined now by joe prince wright, lead writer and editor of "pro soccer talk" at nbc
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sports.com. and from zurich, sam borden european sports columnist for "the new york times," from zurich, at the hotel at the time of those arrests there. and from new york, wnbc's jonathan dietz just back from the attorney general with loretta lynch. welcome. sam, how shocking was it that the arrests came in the middle of the night in switzerland? >> reporter: yeah, an interesting scene. i'm fortunate to be part of a really excellent team of reporters. we were prepared for something to go down at the hotel this morning. but it was fascinating to see how it unfolded. it really was a calm and almost placid experience. there was no kicking in doors or anything like that. it was a very methodical approach by the swiss police. they went to the front desk asked for the room numbers, brought them out.
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you know, if you were sleeping down the hall from where one of these guys was being taken out, you might not have even woken up. >> that's the way a raid is done in switzerland, i guess. the details are extensive according to the attorney general in her news conference just now. >> there was a big book detailing the charges handed out to the press at this news conference. a lot of the questions that came up was what are the selection of the world cup countries, where the world cup is played, was that fixed, was that corrupt, and according to the indictment according to the charges, 2010 south africa they're alleging bribes that were paid in part resulted in the selection of the games being played in south africa. the swiss have said they're looking to the selection of russia and qatar in future games. no word on brazil yet. the investigation ongoing. there were raids and searches today in florida, in fifa-related offices. a lot of the charges today deal
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with money paid by middlemen who helped marketers who basically paid off allegedly paid off fifa officials and in exchange were able to sell off broadcasting rights. and officials today estimate 1/3 of those marketing broadcasting proceeds were the result of corrupt payments. over $150 million as you said. >> joe print wright how big an effect is this going to have on the sport? >> it's going to be huge. right now, this is what fifa is been accused of. it needs to be cleaned up. it the take the fbi and foreign country to clean up the act. that shows how deep this has got to fifa or executives listed. jeffrey webb president of the
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governing body for north america, central america, and the caribbean, he's right at the center of this. it's going to have quite a few implications on the u.s. going forward. but loretta lynch, she was incredible in what she said. this is only the start of the investigation for sure. >> do you think it's going to affect fans at all? because soccer is so incredibly popular. now in the u.s. as well. >> it could well do, as the guys presentationed previously, the swiss officials have opened up another investigation into 2018 and 2022 world cups in russia and qatar. and many people want it to be a revote because there's obviously some corruption allegation going on there. so fans will suffer. they have suffered for a long time. i think overall, people are quite pleased to see that something's being done. can they see it through? the man at the center of all this is sepp blatter. fifa president. he is up for re-election in 48
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hours' time in zurich. the time of this andrea, it's been monumental. >> andrea one key point -- >> in zurich -- >> sorry. one key point -- >> i was going to say to sam. let me ask sam borden jonathan, but that fifa news conference that he was at in zurich. >> yeah. of fascinating, i think, in that fifa, the spokesperson spun it as a positive day for fifa which i think was greeted with considerable isn't that correct on social media and probably deservedly so. i think you could say that as joe referenced a moment ago, if you're a fan of the game if you want to see some kind of meaningful change in the game investigations ss like this where we're talking about several different law enforcement bodies across several countries digging into the heart of what has been a deep-seated corruption for a long time. if you're looking for change, if you're a fan of the game and are
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really looking for serious change, it begins with the situations like this. and there's no question that the election on friday if sepp blatter does not win, he's expected to win, he's a favorite, but if this does affect how the election goes i think people will look back at the arrest this morning, and the investigation coming out and see it as a very historic moment. you know, in the legacy of fifa and global soccer. >> jonathan it's loretta lynch who is really the top cop here. >> that's right. the one part i was trying to add to that is there was no allegation today that any world cup game or gold cup games were fixed. they're alleging the corruption is in the marketing and the way the organization and its umbrella units were run, the way bids were offered, the way contracts were awarded, and the way executives used it alleged three enrich themselves. there -- allegedly enrich themselves. there was no allegation that any of the soccer games were fixed or bribes paid to fix a score.
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carly feeiorina was here with me and another contender possibly ohio republican john kasich in charleston today. last time newt gingrich won the primary. so how is this going to sort itself out? joining me is south carolina congressman mark sanford, also a former governor of the state. congressman, thank you very much for being with us. do you think that anyone has an advantage in this crowded republican field of circle south carolina republicans? >> no, it's wide open. as you may remember last go round, michellee bachmann had won in iowa and was out before rick perry even got in. i think these are very much wide open at the stage of the game. >> what about carly fiorina? she did really well in iowa last weekend, she's not pulling very high but as she puts it she expects by august to actually be in the debate. that she will have moved up in the polls. and she's one of the few
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candidates willing to go after hillary clinton. >> yeah, it's interesting. not only as the only woman in the republican field at this point, but i mean, there's something about her, we hear the chatter within the activist crowd. her name comes up a fair bit in that apparently she can give a stim winder of a speech. i have not heard her speak on the stump but apparently does incredibly well at addressing thoughts, concern, ideas, and ideals that i think are important to voters here at home in south carolina or el where across the country. i think it's going to be very interesting to see how it plays out here on labor day as i suspect the field begins to narrow come the fall. >> what are the most important issues now? iraq and isis and foreign policy challenges, or does it all come back to the economy and the
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challenges of wage disparities and -- and economic lack of economic growth and productivity? >> yeah. i think in many ways, while -- what's happening in the middle east may be grabbing the headlines, when you talk to families -- i was with a big group, ben carson happened to be going through town last night in mt. pleasant. when you talk to people what still is top of mind is deficit and government spending. is this sustain senate bill it's astounding that it took 200 years to get to $5 trillion in debt. it doubled over the bush presidency, doubled again over the obama presidency. people are saying there's something wrong with these numbers. so i hear economic issues a great deal in terms of a real angst. not just on the jobs front but also from the standpoint of is this thing sustainable, what's going on in washington, d.c. i would say that's probably more
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top of mind ultimately than even the hot-button issue of what's happening in the middle east. >> mark sanford, congressman, thank you very much for being with us today. >> pleasure. and how about a wednesday fish tale. here is what happened -- two fishermen were trying to catch a big fish with a kayak in sanibel, florida. they came across a grouper. >> holy -- >> oh my god! >> you got him whooped -- [ scream ] >> get him. >> you're getting him. >> you're getting him. >> holy -- yeah! >> get him! >> you got him. you're getting him! >> come on. he's coming up! there he is. yeah baby! >> holy -- >> that's a big boy. >> whoo! >> oh my god! >> whoo! >> holy crap! >> yes, that definitely was a big boy. the grouper broke the lot.
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hold? >> it does andrea. it's a sad ruling for the dreamers and their families, but it's not wholly unexpected. i think we'll see immigration play a major role in the upcoming presidential election. we're not going to see the last of grim policy debate. it's become -- of immigration policy debates. it's become a states-level issue. we've seen it in the states texas being one of the prominent states because congress is at a standstill. even though president obama through his executive action has tried to make policy change, it's ultimately at a deadlock. so there's going to be a question mark going forward. but at the microlevel the states are going to keep pushing in terms of expanding immigration reform in states, and in others restricting it. >> this is a dividing line between the democrats with hillary clinton going beyond what barack obama has done in her speech in nevada a couple of weeks ago. she said the parent of dreamers
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should be included. hillary clinton has tweeted that it's wrong popus said they step -- potus said they took steps when the gop wouldn't do it. what about in the house and senate? >> i believe he was and i believe he underestimated the political challenge he was going to face with issuing daca and dopa. we know where hillary clinton stands with regard to immigration. i think the more something fight isn't going to be between republicans and democrats but amongst republicans. i think we're going to see the far right who says anything that has to do with immigration it bawl building fences. we don't want any pathways to citizenship or legalization. you'll see marco rubios and jeb bushes saying we need border enforcement but we also need a
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pathway to legalize folks. that's where the interesting fight is going to shape up in the next couple of month. >> arguably rubio has been shifting his position. he will have to be pinned down, that as well. good to talk to you again. thank you very much for being with us today. and much more ahead here on "andrea mitchell reports." coming to you from columbia, south carolina. only right here on msnbc. introducing the new can-am spyder f3. with a cruising riding position and the most advanced vehicle stability system in the industry... ...you'll ride with a feeling of complete freedom and confidence. visit your can-am dealer and test drive the spyder f3 today. ugh! heartburn! did someone say burn? try alka-seltzer heartburn reliefchews. they work fast and don't taste chalky. mmm...amazing. thank you. alka-seltzer heartburn reliefchews. enjoy the relief.
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are you being discriminated against by the republican national committee trying to keep you and others who haven't run before perhaps and don't have the name identification and the poll results yet, are you being discriminated against by being kept out of the initial debate? >> why do you assume i'm going to be kept out? the debates are not for another 11 weeks. i'm actually glad to have a goal. i'm glad to have clarity about what it take to get to that
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stage. and i will work hard to meet the goal. joining me for our "daily fix," chris alissa "washington post"/msnbc contributor, i should say, and founder of the "fix" blog. and luke russert back in washington, as well. chris, first to you. a confident carly feeiorinafiorina. she said she was scheduled to be here so she's not trailing hillary clinton but took the opportunity to try to make the point speaking across the street from where hillary clinton will be speaking within the hour. >> yeah. and look i've written and said this. i think the republican party should be rooting like crazy for carly fiorina's numbers to move up so that you don't have a stage in august in cleveland for first debate that's ten guys standing on the stage. she's the only woman running. she's the only woman we expect to run. i think it would do the republican party some good to have some gender diversity on that stage and in the race more
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generally. she has i think exceeded expectations for -- her poll innocent haven't, but i think she's done better than i expected on the campaign trail. she may be right. it may be a moot point in two, three months' time. i would say if you're a republican strategist, should be rooting for that. >> and take a look at this new yorker cover -- "new yorker" cover showing the locker room as they depict it with carly fiorina peeking from the back of the crowd. luke russert, diversity wouldn't howard that stage. >> certainly not. i think i echo the sentiments that chris made that it would help a party that is often criticized for being too male dominated and not receptive to women's issues. you asked about equal pay. it's good to have her on stage when those issues come up. i'll be interested to see how she does in the current
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electorate that is populous. i was doing research and it came. the barbara boxer ad from 2010 talking about her tenure at hewlett-packard, alleging that 30,000 jobs were cut. she had a yacht, a private jet. i suspect she's going to run into a pop limp problem at some point and how she sells it with her business experience will be a fascinating thing to see. overall, that's the question can she make her candidacy more than just a politics of the personal. is it the one woman on stage, or do i have the required business experience? do i know enough about foreign policy -- she mentioned on your show, it struck me as existing foreign policy trading intel with egypt, the kurds. something we already do. interesting to see whether or not she can pull that off. >> and hillary clinton went to kike's chicken and waffles and had a round -- kiki's chicken and waffles and had a round table.
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appealing to a diverse group of women. she has work to do here. she's very popular among the women who w whom we spoke. we know what happened in 2008 when she found herself clearly outflanked by barack obama. and bill clinton was less than helpful, shall we say. >> right. look, if you look at the first three states the only state -- the only state where you think, oh the clintons are strong there sort of natively is new hampshire. iowa bill clinton was never great. hillary clinton came in third in 2008. south carolina's the famous sort of, well jesse jackson won south carolina comment by bill clinton when everything came to a head there. the thing that benefits hillary clinton is i can't imagine bernie sander or martin o'malley or anyone else -- again, yods them building the organizations -- i don't see them building the organizations that could take advantage of the fact that hillary clinton while strong nationally is not -- there would be room for a serious challenge in early states. i don't think we'll see it
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materialize, though. >> i would add quickly that i think when it comes to general election -- >> real fast -- >> that barack obama and michelle obama would help in that realm with african-american voters in loyal support. they'll be soldiers at the end of the day. >> good point, luke. thank you very much. as always. thanks to chris. that does it for us for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." we'll be in south carolina covering hillary clinton today. remember follow the show on line on facebook and on twitter @mitchellreports. new car. nobody's hurt,but there will still be pain. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three-quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do, drive three-quarters of a car? now if you had liberty mutual new car replacement, you'd get your whole car back. i guess they don't want you driving around on three wheels. smart. with liberty mutual new car replacement, we'll replace the full value of your car. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance.
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pulse.msnbc.com. at home, a tornado touching down in blanco, texas. this as the death toll climbs after unprecedentedented flooding in the rest of the state. 19 confirmed dead 14 still missing. >> the homes and lives and dreams of houstonians crushed literally. by the power of the water -- >> today the funeral for the homecoming queen swept away in the flooding. ahead, the palmetto state stump. hillary clinton campaigns in south carolina for the first time since the 2008 primaries. we'll take you there. we do want to begin with the world's most popular sport rocked today by the dual corruption investigation. behind me are several of the faces of the 14 charged with racketeering, wire fraud, money laundering conspiracy including several current and former fifa officials. seven arrested in switzerland early this morning, covered by sheets. they're accused of
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