good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show," live from detroit lakes, minnesota. let's get to work! tonight, disaster zones. >> central texas, the scene of utter devastation and natural disaster of epic proportions. >> this is the worst thing i've ever seen. plus, rick's running again. >> don't try this at home. running for president's not easy. >> we need a candidate in 2016 that's going to unite america. >> later, dropping the duggars. >> a reality show 19 kids and counting. >> and red card. >> they corrupted to serve their interests and to enrich themselves. >> this really is the world cup of fraud. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. we start this evening with the latest on the devastating flooding in texas. at least 23 people are confirmed dead across texas and oklahoma

after heavy rains and thunderstorms have absolutely battered the area. tornados were reported in blanco county, texas today. at this hour there are no reports of danger or injuries from the tornados. but the severe weather seems to continue. 11 people are still missing throughout the region. texas governor greg abbott has issued a disaster declaration in all 46 counties. earlier today, all eyes were on the lake dam 25 miles southwest of dallas. a breach was possible and could have flooded more than 20 homes. engineers in ellis county said they no longer expected the dam to break. forecasters warn more storms could roll through the southern plains through the end of the week. nbc's jay gray has the latest from texas. >> the continued across from texas today. with more rain in areas already ravaged by the water.

and holding out hope they'll find survivors. >> we are still in search and rescue mode. we are still looking for viable victims. >> as crews begin to clean up pulling away debris where they came sifting through what little is left behind in an area literally swallowed by the river. >> wimberly has multiple homes with -- they're down to the foundation. it's a pretty devastating scenario. >> it's a scenario playing out in houston as well. where homes are now islands, communities isolated or even worse after the storms there. >> you see the homes and lives and dreams of houstonians crushed literally by the power of the water. >> water that's destroyed, just about everything in its path. >> let's bring in nbc's charles had lock tonight, who was

reporting from texas. it just seems that any kind of moisture is an absolute threat to life. it seems very fragile. what is the situation? >> hi, ed. it was scary today. thunderstorms are rolling back over houston. dumping about another inch of rain. this is buffalo bayou. 24 hours ago, it was well out of its banks. we thought it might increase a little bit today with the thundershowers, but it's done quite the opposite. it's come down, and it continues to go down. across houston, more than 4,000 businesses and homes were damaged by rising water all across town. the water is all receded now. all the streams are back in their banks. and most of the water has now drained away from the city streets. they're still pumping some underpasses out. that's where they found yet another body today. the death count here in houston, rather, is now seven. they found another body late this afternoon. it was one of the persons who

was rescued from the raging waters yesterday by the houston fire department. that boat overturned spilling three people into the water. two of the bodies have been found. they're still searching for an 87-year-old man. take a look at this. yesterday ed when we joined you, this whole basin was filled with water. but look at it now. it's green, it's lawn, people are out riding their bikes and walking, enjoying a beautiful day in houston. that's buffalo bayou, it goes around downtown and into the houston ship channel and then into the gulf of mexico. this water is all draining away and houstonians can't wait for it all to be gone. back to you, ed. >> charles hadlock, appreciate your time tonight. thanks so much. severe weather events can be tied to climate change and the facts are very clear. extreme weather events becoming more common throughout the united states. california is in the middle of a devastating drought that is affecting agriculture and the state's economy. last year alone, we saw record wildfires in washington state

another extreme. there were record snowfalls in the buffalo, new york region and record temperatures from the polar vortex, another extreme. overall, noaa said 2014 was the warmest year ever recorded. another extreme. many scientists say that climate change and the increase in severe weather are clearly connected. now, texas is facing devastating severe weather in the form of record floods, and of course, in houston, it is so sad, along with 11 inches of rain falling in the last 24 hours. unfortunately, some elected officials in texas are denying the science of climate change. on tuesday, texas governor greg abbott and senator ted cruz gave a joint press conference on the deadly flood. cruz has made clear many times he denies the science on climate change. >> the debates on this should follow science and should follow data. and many of the alarmists on global warming they've got a

problem because the science doesn't back them up, and in particular satellite data demonstrate for the last 17 years, there's been zero warming, none whatsoever. >> governor abbott is also a climate change skeptic. he said "many scientists believe that certain human activities impact the climate. others dispute the extent to which any activity has a particular level of influence on the climate which is why this matter needs to continue to be invest getted", he said. then there is the issue of federal funding. what do we do as a country? senator ted cruz has been slamming excessive federal spending since he first arrived in washington, d.c. this is a man who played a big part in the shutdown of the government to defund obamacare. in 2013 he voted against the hurricane sandy relief package, because he said that there was pork in the bill. now when cruz's home state is in trouble, he is singing a different tune. here is the senator on tuesday. >> the federal government's role, once the governor declares

a disaster area and makes a request, i am confident that the delegation, senator cornyn and i and the members of congress both republicans and democrats will stand united aztec sans in support of the federal government fulfilling its statutory obligations and stepping in to respond to this natural disaster. >> as i see this, this cannot -- and it never should be a political foot fall. the people of texas the people of the united states deserve federal relief instantly. just like everybody else around the country, texas should be no different. this debate on disaster relief has been going on and it's been a political football for a number of years. whether it be a hurricane, whether it be sandy, whether it be tornados. why do we have these debates? it might start with accepting the science of over 96% of the scientists who were involved in the research on climate change. that would be a good start. if we accept the science and we understand the extremes, maybe

as a country we won't have political fights when lives are being lost on our own turf when families are being destroyed and the gut-wrenching stories that are coming out across america and this time it's in texas. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question are climate change and increasing severe weather events connected? go to pulse.msnbc.com/ed to cast your vote. i'll bring you the results later on in the show. for more, let me bring in paul douglas. he's a senior meteorologist. always good to have you with us. these are tough stories in tough times. but the science tells us this is the way it's going to be. whether it be in texas or whether it be in washington state or california. and this isn't the first time it won't be the last. what's it going to take to convince people in america that the science is real? are climate change and increase in severe weather connected as you see it?

>> absolutely. and there's little debate about that right now among real scientists. and again, on the internet you can find anything to support any cockamamy theory. that's what we have right now, this echo chamber. i should point out that texas historically has seen more billion-dollar weather and climbed disasters than any state in the nation. and what we have now is probably a weather and climate trifecta. we have el nino. the warming of the pacific, which energizes the southern branch of the jet stream setting the stage for more storms. we have a warmer atmosphere a warmer gulf of mexico. more water vapor. more fuel for these severe thunderstorms, which are pretty much stalled over texas and oklahoma. oklahoma wettest may on record. statewide already. and the third factor, what's happening in the arctic. the arctic is warming two to three times faster than texas. and that's affecting the jet stream. the configuration and speed of

the jet stream. the science is early. it's emerging. but it's fairly compelling suggesting that whether systems increasingly are getting stuck. and that creates more whiplash. it creates deeper droughts. biblical floods. and that's what we're seeing in the data. i've been talking about this here in minnesota for 15 years. people thought i was standing too close to the doppler, ed. and now i tell people where the symptoms are showing up is in the weather. not every day, not every week. but how many times do you have to be hit on the head by a 2 x 4 to say houston, we have a problem. the same people railing about the federal deficit rightfully so are going to be the first ones with their hands out asking for assistance for their citizens do to a treadmill of weather extremes and that treadmill is gradually increasing in speed. and that's what we're seeing in the data right now ed. >> paul what can we expect for

texas for the rest of the week? what does it look like? are these weather patterns just terribly inconsistent and it's really hard to predict? how do you predict 12 inches of rainfall in less than 24 hours? >> you don't. no meteorologist in their right mind goes out on a limb and predicts a foot of rain from one event from either a series of events. what we're seeing is this preponderance of evidence that suggests that the weather is increasingly slowing down. we may be seeing fewer storms especially during the warm months, spring summer and fall. but the storms that do form produce these biblical rains, because they're moving much, much slower and the weather systems stalled. all the data i'm seeing suggests that thunderstorms continue through the end of the week for oklahoma and texas. f rain. they're not out of the woods until hopefully next week. it looks like a drier pattern setting in starting sunday monday of next week. so we will climb out of this. but it's amazing, the same state that was in an extreme drought

two years ago now experiencing record, in some cases historic flooding just jaw-dropping extremes. and we're going to be seeing more whiplash. it is evidence of what's happening with the climate system. there's more volatility in the system and that's going to be showing up with these weather extremes, increasing in frequency and intensity. that's what the data shows. >> meteorologist paul douglas with us tonight here on "the ed show." appreciate it, paul. thanks so much for joining us. remember to answer tonight's question there at pulse.msnbc.com/ed. we'll have the results for you right after this break. follow us on facebook. watch my facebook feature give me a minute and you can get my video podcast at wegoted.com. coming up, rick santorum is ready the announce his presidential campaign again. we'll bring it to you live and take a look at his chances in 2016, and later 15 companies and counting. more fallout from the duggar family as advertisers drop their

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we lived on the v.a. post in world war ii government apartments surrounded by our nation's veterans. most of my friends, though their dads worked in the mills and the mines. they got off shift and coached us in sports. and in life. they were the generation of god-fearing people who built this country and at the same time were the foundation of the country. in the late '70s, like many of you, we saw the economic devastation. here in southwestern pennsylvania, but across this country, particularly in the area of manufacturing. a result of the excesses and indifference. big labor, big government and yes, big business. here in south western

pennsylvania, the epicenter, we lost over 100,000 jobs and what seemed to be overnight. it has to and did, leave a mark on all of us. times have changed. american workers could no longer compete with low foreign wages. and that those jobs were gone forever. well what about those politicians? for all those years, what did they do? what did they do for communities across this area and across this country in small town america? they had no plan and they provided no hope. and to that, i say, no longer!

[ applause ] as middle america is hollowing out, we can't sit idly by as big government politicians make it harder for our workers and then turn around and blame them for losing jobs overseas. working families don't need another president tied to big government or big money. and today is the day -- today is the day we are going to begin to fight back! i am proud to stand here among

you and for you. the american workers who have sacrificed so much to announce that i am running for president of the united states. [ cheers and applause ] >> i'll offer a bold vision for america. one that's clear and conservative. that has plans for reform. and has a proven track record that i have in my time in service. step one in taking back america, step one, let's scrap the corrupt federal tax code and the

irs that goes with it. it's time to give america a simple fair flat tax. it would create millions of god paying jobs. it would rebuild our factories. an increased take-home pay for workers in america. powdered by the shale revolution and the renewable revolution. powered by those two revolutions. we have regained the title of the world leader in energy production.

[ applause ] with low cost energy and our bold plan i promise you, we will regain the title of a leader in world manufacturing. and that's not all. we will shrink government we will reduce spending we will revoke every executive order and regulation. [ cheers and applause ] we will revoke every executive order and regulation that cost american jobs.

from day one, we will work to bring back america and put americans back to work. american workers deserve a shot at these jobs. over the last 20 years, we've brought into this country legally and illegally 35 million mostly unskilled workers. at the same time workers' wages and family incomes have flatlined. hillary clinton and big business -- [ booing ] they have called for a massive influx in unskilled labor.

business does it because they want to control costs. hillary does it -- well, she just wants votes. their priorities are profits and power. my priority is you, the american worker. >> former pennsylvania senator rick santorum announcing that he is going to run for president again. he won iowa in 2012. he's putting a heavy emphasis on jobs and manufacturing. and i give him credit none of the other republican candidates to date have gone down this road or this theme. for more let me bring in mercedes schlapp, republican spokesperson of george w. bush. also with us tonight, richard vigory chairman for the conservativehq.com. great to have both of you with us tonight. mercedes, this is a theme that we have not heard other

republican candidates echo. what do you make of it? >> well you know he really is taking a unique approach. this is something that the other candidates really haven't addressed. and his big focus here has been about the american worker. he's one of the few candidates in fact that has actually been open to raising the minimum wage. he's talking about opportunities about how do you reduce income inequality. these topics that normally republicans have not really addressed so directly. he has decided this is going to be one of his main themes. he's broadened his message about the blue class worker and i think that's an important way to go. >> mr. vigory what do you think? is rick santorum conservative enough? >> well, rick i supported rick

in 2012 as did most conservatives after he won the iowa caucus. but quite frankly, 2012 was a rather weak field. and 2016 is a very strong field. rick is known for a lot of things. he covered a lot of bases just now. i think that's going to resonate with the primary vote. but his strong suit has often been the social issues, the cultural issues. cruz is going to compete for those votes as will huckabee as will scott walker as will bobby jindal. he doesn't seem to have a natural base like a lot of these candidates. they all have strong bases. don't rule out rick santorum. he is a tireless worker. i'm impressed with what he's been putting together in recent weeks there.

>> he wants to get rid of the tax code and the irs. he also is talking about big government and big business when it comes to -- he didn't use the word outsourcing, but it sure seemed like that's the road he was going down mercedes. this is something the others aren't talking about. >> right. >> how does this play in iowa? how does this play in new hampshire? the two states early on. >> sure. i think for iowa it's mostly about those social conservatives. again, as richard has mentioned. it's going to be a little more challenging because of the fact that you have so many of these talented candidates in the field vying for this conservative vote. so i think also with senator santorum coming a little bit later in the race it makes it difficult. he was one of those politicians that in 2012 really became that retail politician driving in the beat up truck going to meet with these iowa voters. again, he has more competition. this time it's going to be a little more difficult.

>> well, it wasn't just iowa. he won 11 states in 2012. >> i was there. i was with him. >> how could he not be better today? >> looking back, i think rick made a serious mistake. after he withdrew in april 2012 he basically withdrew from the political arena. he was there, but not very active. reagan after he lost a close race in '76 was very active in 1977 '78, '79. daily radio shows. you couldn't go to a conservative meeting without bumping into ronald reagan in the time between 1976 and the '80 contest. and rick santorum if he had stayed active he would be the natural leader of the conservative cause right now. but he's kind of coming in late now. it's going to be hard to play catch-up. >> a recent fox poll shows rick

santorum ninth among white evangelical voters. he doesn't really have a base. but this used to be his base. what happened? >> well, again, we have so many of these other candidates. we've got senator ted cruz senator mark rubio, governor scott walker. so many different individuals who are dividing up lot of these conservative votes in these key states. new hampshire is going to be a different story because we know it's a little more moderate. that's where governor jeb bush probably plays better. i think senator santorum will have a difficult time breaking through like he did in 2012 when in fact he was more of an anti-romney vote. where the conservatives really clung on to him. this is a different field. it's a different year. i think he's coming in a little late in the game. what i do like is his message on really reaching out to that american worker to the working family. that is incredibly important. having that discussion about income inequality in this most critical time.

>> it's a democratic theme, mr. vig vigory. what do you make of it? >> i have to say this about a lot of conservative candidates. they don't always do a good job of showing empathy with the voters. marco rubio is exceptionally good at it. and rick santorum is. and you can just listen to him right now. you can tell that there's empathy for the working men and women in this country. and i think that's going to be a strong suit. but he's gotten serious competition. conservatives for 25 years or so since reagan, we've had very very few top tier top level candidates run for president. and that was the case in 2012. not so in 2016. we've got a lot of very strong top tier conservatives. it's going to be tough. >> all right. great to have you with us tonight. appreciate your time. thank you. so rick santorum is officially in. still ahead, rand paul calls out his own party for the rise of

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and we are back. there's more fallout from the duggars following reports alleging the oldest son josh molested five girls when he was a teenager. josh has apologized saying that he acted inexcusably and would do anything to go back and take different actions. tlc pulled "19 kids and counting" from their lineup following last week's revelation. the network has not made a decision on whether the show will be canceled. now advertisers, many under pressure from consumers on social media are already deciding not to continue sponsoring the show. 15 companies have pulled their advertisements from future airings of the program.

h&r block says while they are not currently advertising on the network, think will keep the duggar allegations in mind in the future. critics are also pointing out more duggar family hypocrisy. while it's been reported that jim bob duggar was made aware of his son's actions in 2002 police were not involved until 2006 after the statute of limitations had run out. but at the same time he was learning about his son's alleged sexual misconduct jim bob was taking a hard stance publicly on sexual assault. jim bob duggar's website from his 2002 senate run lays out his position statements on a variety of issues. when it comes to rape and incest, he said they are heinous crimes that should be treated as capital crimes. joining me tonight on our rapid response panels zerlena maxwell, and contributor to essence magazine. also with us a columnist for the daily beast.

great to have beth of you with us. advertisers leaving. certainly not a good signal. many times they don't come back. is this the beginning of the end? can this show be rehabilitated? >> i really don't think so. what we're dealing with is not a mistake, like the family said and also mike huckabee tried to frame this as a mistake when one makes when they're a young teen. but i have something to tell you. this is actually a very serious crime that we're talking about. and so i would hope that advertisers would continue to distance themselves from this show and this family because that would then be them speaking out and speaking up on behalf of survivors everywhere who see this as a very triggering and serious story, and i think that it's time that people push back and say no more we have no tolerance for molestation and abuse in this manner. >> well i want to point out that you wrote an article responding to supporters calling josh's actions a mistake.

how disturbing is it to see this issue being minimized by high-profile people such as huckabee trying to give the guy an alibi and jump start him again? what do you make of it? >> well i think it's really disgusting. this is what rape culture looks like. when feminists talk about this idea of rape culture, it's this notion that if you are committing a crime like sexual assault, that it's just a mistake. it's just boys will be boys. it's just the way it is and women need to plan accordingly for this perceived danger. but i think as the white house is saying this year, as activists as columbia university are saying this year enough is enough. i think we need to take this issue much more seriously and hold people accountable. this family let these allegations lie for years and years without even going to the authorities. and i think that that is really really troubling considering how many children young children they have, particularly the young women in their family which were as young as 5 at the time of these allegations.

>> exactly. dean what about jim bob duggar? i mean talk about sweeping it under the rug and being a hypocrite. i mean how do you view this? >> you summed it up perfectly. i mean hypocrite to the tenth level. there's a man out there campaigning while knowing his son has committed sexual molestation, potentially rape, at least incest. but he's campaigning saying if anyone does this they should have capital punishment. it's ridiculous. it's also ridiculous that at this point that tlc, which is owned by discovery communications, hasn't pulled the plug on this show completely. there's not two sides to this. this is a man who committed a crime. he's got a family who covered up for it at least arguably. and by putting it on air or any sponsor staying with them, they're sending the message that this is somehow okay. it's not okay. i know this is tlc's top show. it's made lots of money. but as part of discovery communications, a company that made over $1.5 billion, they don't need this. it's ruining their brand.

they should drop them today. >> well they should drop them today, as i see it as well. and it's almost like they're seeing which way the wind sock is going to go. just how are consumers going to respond? well, we've seen it. the social media pushback has been extraordinary. and are companies much more sensitive to consumer feedback now? what do you think, dean? >> i think they are. i think one of the good things with twitter -- and there's so many bad things with the trolling going on. one of the good things is democratized the process of getting your word out there. the access is immediate. there are big companies charged with looking at social media. i've tweeted complaints about companies and gotten a response pretty quickly about things. they see it now. you don't have to mail a letter write it it gets there three days later. it's in realtime. it's having an impact and that's a good thing. that's the key to this. this is a business decision by tlc and ultimately discovery communications. if other sponsors had stepped up like they did with rush

limbaugh, this show could survive. it's ending. >> this is kind of a leading comment, but zerlina, how much more information does tlc have to have? >> yeah that's a really interesting question because i don't think that they need any more information. we know right now that he admitted to committing a crime. it's not allegations or someone accusing him of something. he's admitting to having done this. and under the law, it's a crime. even though they waited three years -- you know they let the statute of limitations run out, arguably, to cover this up. but i think that we need to take a serious look at how we actually handle allegations of sexual assault. because it's very serious, it's happening all over everywhere all the time. >> all right, great to have both of you with us tonight. appreciate your time. still to come senator bernie sanders shares his thoughts on fighting isis as republicans continue to play the blame game. stay with us.

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isis exists and grew stronger because of the hawks in our party who gave arms indiscriminately and most of those arms were snatched up by isis. they created those people. >> and we are back on "the ed show." when republicans aren't busy blaming president obama for the rise of isis they're pointing the finger at each other. americans don't seem to be too interested in the blame game as of late. we need a serious debate about which strategy is the best. and in the best interest of the american people. if you're looking for a serious debate in an answer, look no further than vermont senator bernie sanders. i sat down with the senator yesterday ahead of his presidential campaign kickoff last night and asked him for his take on the war against isis. take a listen. >> i voted against the war in iraq. i think history will record that

as the right vote. what i believe in my heart of hearts is the united states alone cannot win the war against isis. we can't do it. the muslim nations in that world, saudi arabia has the third largest military budget in the world. they're going to have to step up to the plate. this is a fight for the soul of islam. and the countries there that are opposed to the ideology are going to have to lead the effort. the united states alone cannot win that war. and i worry very much that a number of my republican colleagues. what you're saying is he does not want combat troops in iraq and syria, and i agree with him wholeheartedly on that.

a number of my republican colleagues are trying to outdo each other. i heard that rhetoric back in the lead-up to the war in iraq. and that was a disaster. >> still ahead on the "ed show," reports of bribery in the international soccer organization put a spotlight on troubling working conditions in the world cup's future host country. you're watching the "ed show." stay with us. we're right back with this story. what do you think of when you think of the united states postal service? exactly. that's what pushes us to deliver smarter simpler

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ed show," we're following the explosive allegations of corruption of the world's most popular sport, soccer. 14 people within the fifa organization have been charged with racketeering wire fraud, and moneylaundering. seven top officials were arrested earlier today. they will be extradited to the united states and charged. the justice department says its investigation found bribes totalling more than $110 million. the u.s.-led investigation uncovered deals dating back more than 20 years. earlier today u.s. attorney general loretta lynch addressed the scandal. >> many of the individuals and organizations we will describe today were entrusted with keeping soccer open and accessible to all. instead, they corrupted the business of worldwide soccer to serve their interests and to enrich themselves. >> new accounts of bribery continue to come out there. is a separate swiss investigation concerning the selection of qatar and russia as the future world cup venues.

a whistle-blower who worked for the qatar claims several officials were paid $1.5 million each to support qatar has the host city for the 2022 world cup there are also questions surrounding the treatment of workers who are building the stadiums in qatar. hbo's real sports highlighted some of the issues in its episode "the price of glory in qatar." >> 4,000 migrant workers will die building qatar's world cup. >> yes. >> how many qataris? >> no one are dying because of this war condition because of the heat. because there is no safety measure applied. >> i'm joined tonight with david scott, correspondent for hbo's real sports with bryant gumbel who did reporting on the price of glory in qatar. david, good to have you with us tonight. >> thank you. >> this is a shocking story about the way these human beings are being treated.

what kind of conditions are the migrant workers in qatar facing? >> it's truly shocking. when you think about how much fifa had to overlook in qatar in order to give that country the games, it's is overwhelming. hundreds of thousands of poorest men in asia are being imported and indentured to do all the heavy lifting in that society, including building this world cup in 2022. they're housed in squalid labor camps literally by the hundreds of thousands. some eight to a room. ten men sharing a bathroom. for a country that literally is the richest people in the world. it's shocking and appalling conditions. >> what did today's developments really mean for the international soccer world and the international soccer game? what does this mean? >> it's so interesting, and i think surprising to a lot of us that have followed this. for a long time the problem was that there was no controlling

authority on fifa other than themselves. and they're not especially good at policing themselves. the swiss government hasn't been especially aggressive in looking at their books, and so here comes this u.s. attorney turned attorney general quietly in brooklyn for what sounds like for years piecing together a very substantial investigation, and now indictment of this multibillion organizations. fascinating and surprising and perhaps the greatest challenge to fifa in its 100-year history. >> what does it mean for the world cup in 2022? >> that i think the $64,000 question. and really interesting to see what happens next. fifa, of course, has investigated the claims of bribery related to the 2022 games, and cleared qatar and cleared itself of any

wrongdoing, very publicly so. so how they can reverse that outcome now is a little confounding to think through. but, you know one thing that should haunt them today is that the u.s. government said in its announcement of this indictment that they're not finished yet. this is not the last chapter of the investigation. we know that the way fifa has been doing business in the americas is the same way they've been doing business in the middle east and in asia and in africa for many years. so i would not for a minute think that it ends here. and perhaps the u.s. government has a way at getting at the qatar situation. >> the attorney general said today the problems with fifa are systemic going back 20 years. clearly, it's right in the culture of international soccer which i think clearly will damage a lot of lives, no doubt about it. excellent reporting, david

scott. that was a great piece and very eye-opening what is happening to those workers. >> i appreciate it very much. >> you bet. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening rev. >> good evening, ed. and thanks to you for tuning in. developing news tonight. hillary clinton back in south carolina. it's a first political trip back to the state that heard her 2008 campaign, where she struggled with minority voters. just before the important south carolina primary, she took criticism for seemingly downplaying the role of activists in the civil rights movement. some suggested she gave more credit for civil rights victories to the legislative success of former president lyndon b. johnson than to the leadership of dr. martin luther king jr. and bill clinton