tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC May 27, 2015 9:00pm-10:01pm PDT
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ran, thank you both. that's "all in" for this evening, "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. thank you for joining us this hour, huge show tonight. it's been an amazing news day today. we have dramatic news coming from a deep red state, a deep red state doing something that nobody expected from a conservative place. we have exactly the person you want to hear from live on the biggest news story in the world today. we've got a lot coming up this hour, i'm very excited about tonight's show, we start tonight with this. because we started this as basically kind of a joke. the republican field of candidates and likely candidates for 2016. we started this as a graphic, this thing you see on your screen. basically as a joke to show how many people were running or were likely to run.
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it's such a big field. it's such a big field that there's -- basically not enough room to get these guys names up there. we figured there are 22 republican candidates or possible candidates for president this year. it's early days, we won't be stuck with this graph for long, a lot of these guys will drop out soon, we'll have a much easier visual to work with soon enough. that's what we thought would happen. that's not at all how it has worked out. we started with 22 candidates and likely candidates. that was weeks ago. we've only been able to poof three heads off that crowded screen. the first one we were able to take off the list was rick snyder. second one was u.n. ambassador john bolton. and then it was indiana governor mike pence.
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bye-bye. that was three of them. three of them saying they won't run. we still have 19 little republican heads up there. we are still at 19. and maybe we are not going to go down from that number at all. at least we're not going to any time soon. i mean, we can add this, right? these people with little red boxes around them, they have formally confirmed that they are in. all of these people have formally declared they are running for the republican nomination for president in 2016. it's very clear they're not going to be the hole field, it's not just that we're going to add the obvious and famous people like jeb bush and scott walker to that list, and we will eventually have to add them. even the most obscure and anonymous remaining people on
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our list are not going to be poofed off this list either. they're just not opting out. nobody's opting out any more. one after the other, they keep either announcing that they're in or signaling that they're going to be in. like, for example, this guy, do you recognize this man? could you pick this man out of a lineup? could you pick him out of this specific lineup? i mean no offense by this, i mean to say, by virtue of his deep national obscurity, and lack of any distinguishing political characteristics in this field, this guy was one of my personal top contenders for a guy who would take a look around. but alas and be hold the washington post reports today that he, ohio governor john
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kasich is in. today his long time friends and strategists close to him said john kasich will announce his bid sometime after june 30th. the last time he ran for president was the year 2,000. when george w. bush chased john kasich out of the field many john kasich talking about the fact that he's going to run this year again, he was asked about that experience in 2000, he told the post, i didn't get scared in 2000, i got destroyed out. i had no money and no oxygen. that's what happened to him in 2000. the post asked him about the prospect of doing it again. front running bush brother with early showoff fund-raising and the rest. check out what john kasich had to say about running against jeb bush this year. asked in this recent interview whether his message would be similar to jeb bush's message, john kasich said, i don't know
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anything about bush's theme. i really don't. i've never listened to him. what's right to rise, getting up in the morning? right to rise is the name of jeb bush's super pac. so ohio governor john kasich, even though he's the governor of ohio, sadly at least for now, he's totally unrecognizable and indistinguishable from all of the other candidates in the field. he will be to most americans looking at him in the midst of running. his tendency to emotional outbursts in ohio politics. he may be fun to watch, if we can just remember which one he is when it comes to putting a name to a face. in today's news of this sort, john kasich's leading competitor for the national republican figure least likely to be recognized in a crowded room is this guy. okay, let me see. his name is -- do you know what his name is?
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i mean, hit pause, ask anybody near you. does anyone in the room watching tv with you right now, know who this man is? do you have any guesses as to who this man is? his name starts with a j sound. john something maybe? jim something maybe? joe? no. his name is george -- now do you know who he is? his name is george pataki. that's him. he also apparently sees no reason not to run for ready this year. we're talking about george pataki on television, because he's going to run. he's going to make his official announcement tomorrow that he's in the running for the
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republican nomination for president of the united states. that feeling in your chest is your heartstrings thrumming. and then there's the other big news today. more reaction to put another box on the list we get another i'm in declaration. the announcement happened today in butler county, pennsylvania. and it was made by rick santorum. rick santorum is now the seventh candidate to make it official. and lots more still to come apparently. it is traditional for candidates to announce in their home state. so rick santorum did that today. it's a little awkward, because the last time he ran he lost his incumbent senate seat by 18 points to bob casey. he beat rick santorum in 2006, when rick santorum was the incumbent senator, bob casey beat him by 18 points.
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true fact. when rick santorum bounced back after that devastating loss in his home state and decided that six years later in 2012, he would run for president, rick santorum did great in that race in 2012, it was mitt romney who won the nomination for the republican party in 2012. the guy who very clearly came in second to mitt romney in the race for the nomination in 2012 was rick santorum. i mean you may remember in 2012, the iowa caucuses were screwed up that year, they finally did count the votes in 2012, it was rick santorum who won iowa. he then went on to win 10 more states after with a wash more states than anybody won against mitt romney. and that has set rick santorum up to make a compelling argument about why he ought to be seen as a top tier contender this time. if not the nominee in waiting for the republican party. he told the rnc spring meeting this accurate truth about the
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modern history of the republican party choosing its nominees for president it he told the rnc a couple weeks ago, since primaries and caucuses went into effect. every single republican nominee has met one of three tests. one, they were vice president, two, they were the son of a former president. or three, they came in second place the last time and ran again. so rick santorum is saying, dick cheney's not on the ballot. so it's either jeb bush, son of a president or me, the guy who came in second last time. and if we're going to go on the merits rather than nepotism, frankly, i came in second last time, so i'm next in line to win the republican nomination this time. it's an accurate historical
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argument, whether it's a good case to be made for how people should think of a candidacy. republican beltway types do not seem to think that rick santorum has a chance in 2016. honestly, they're not asking me? rick santorum is the best natural speaker of all of the republican candidates who are running or who have considered running this year, all 22 of them. social conservative issues like being anti-gay or anti-abortion. if those are important issues. if social conservative issues are important to republican voters again this year, rick santorum is stronger on those issues than anybody. and what he's decided to foreground in his campaign this year is something that the beltway types hate, but real people tend to really like. this is the cover of his last book, blue collar conservatives. he's trying to run as the blue collar republican champion.
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he's trying to run as a republican economic populist, the guy who stands up for the little guy, and beltway types tend to dismiss economic populism as ridiculous, and they dismiss the prospect of the republican populous as a fairy tail. economic populism has nothing to do with how the republican party governs in washington right now or any state in the country right now. if rick santorum can do it, if he can define a republican message for the country that is about helping regular people and not the rich, if he can change the view of the republican party, that is a bull's eye for the american electorate if he can do it. so, you know, the beltway writes him off. just like the beltway writes off bernie sanders, running on economic populism with an exclamation point. the beltway does not get and has never gotten economic populism. people really like it.
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beltway doesn't get it, so the pundits will rule these guys out on the basis of their old school marxist sounding message. people will like it if they get their message out. if anybody can get the message out, he can. on this economic populous thing which the beltway does not get, both of these guys will do better than they are expected to do. this is the field as it stands right now. seven people officially in. it will be eight as of tomorrow when george pataki dives right in. but if guys like george pataki and john kasich are seeing no
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reason to bow out, it's possible that we will have a field of 19 plus whoever we forgot to put on the list. and that field is incredibly flat. the front-runners, honestly, they all have deep flaws or in some cases lack important skills. and the supposed also lower rams, lower tier candidates, have a pretty good story to tell. and if the 2012 republican presidential primary, in 2012, if it was amazing to watch that year because everyone in the primary was ridiculous at some level, the 2016 republican primary this year is going to be amazing to watch because everybody has a shot. legitimately this field is not ridiculous, it's huge, but it's refusing to uncrowd itself. this is going to be so so much fun to cover. i am totally blind. and sometimes i struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. this is called non-24. learn more by calling 844-824-2424.
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over and over again to keep the death penalty. this new group in this low key press conference said they were going to get it done and they were going to get it done this year. the guy you see here, mark hiden worked for the nra, and he's not made an exit for conservative politics. he said all along that he's working on the death penalty as part of a conservative cause. this obscure new thing did get some press locally, local paper noted that the new -- this year's get rid of capital punishment law wasn't just a democratic issue. the campaign got some national press, the beloved lefty magazine, mother jones covered it, i think in part because this is it the kind of thing liberals would be amazed to see happen in a conservative state.
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mother jones in their coverage threw some cold water on any hopes about it. they said, the bill is unlikely to become law. no chance, right? you can line up conservatives, republicans to a certain extent, that doesn't matter, in the end the numbers were conservative nebraska will not let go of the death penalty. conservatives concerned about the death penalty, they weren't just talking smack, they had a grounds game lined up. this guy was their nebraska coordinator. >> in favor of repealing the death penalty, it's so expensive, it can cost as much as 10 times as much to execute someone as to keep them in prison for the rest of their life, and we're an organization that cares about limited government and we can have a government that has the power to kill people or doesn't have the power to kill people.
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as a conservative and libertarian leaning conservative, i always favor government with less power. >> i always favor government with less power. this conservative group with their surprising but cogent conservative cause, they started on tax day when conservatives are railing about the irs and the size of government. they kicked off their campaign in ernest in nebraska. they decided that in order to get this thing done, they would have to take on the well financed, well connected new republican governor of nebraska, his name is pete rickets, he is a republican. he used to run the online training company ameritrade. pete rickets comes from money and power and in january he became the new governor of nebraska, he won by 20 points to get the job.
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if great striding confidence could be disuntilled into human form, it would look a lot like governor pete rickets of nebraska. when the attempt began to repeal the death penalty in his home state. governor rickets decided he was not going to be on the side of the conservative groups he did two things to try to stop the repeal effort. first he did this very bold thing and placed an orders for lethal injection drugs with a company in india like a bunch of death penalty states, like all death penalty states, nebraska didn't have a way to get lethal injection drugs anymore. pete rickets said he would get some, and have them shipped to nebraska. his office told us they expect to get the first shipment in june. i think governor rickets meant that to be persuasive to republicans who don't mind the idea of the death penalty in principal but who were worried about the way it was working or not working in nebraska, he meant this announcement about
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the new purchase of drugs to be persuasive that the death penalty could work in his state. it was a working system and the governor had fixed it, for some people that was persuasive, the omaha police union put out a statement saying they didn't want the death penalty to be repealed in part because the system was fixed, the lethal injection drugs would soon be on the way, governor rickets had said so. one of the lawmakers who supported repealing the death penalty said he changed his mind about what pete rickets said about the drugs being on their way, the system could be fixed, the state could get those drugs and maybe it was true, maybe the system could get work and there was no reason to object to it on good government grounds. however persuasive it was to important stakeholders and legislators in this argument, it turns out that governor rickets' plan to import those lethal injection drugs from india to nebraska is a plan that is not going to work. if that's how they're planning on fixing the death penalty in that state, it's not going to happen, and we know that from this statement that we have
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obtained from the fda. the fda tells us, with very limited exceptions that do not apply here it is unlawful to import this drug. and fda would refuse its admission into the united states. so governor rickets tried to hold on to the death penalty in part by saying, don't worry, i'm getting the drugs, i fixed the system. he's not fixed the system, he's not getting those drugs. that was not the only thing that governor rickets did to try to stop this conservative uprising in his state. he did an impressive full court press more than two dozen media interviews in which he directly appealed to republican legislators to change their vote. he appealed to the public to put pressure on republican legislators to do that, and nobody knew if that would be enough. the legislature passed the bill last week, governor rickets vetoed it on tuesday. today the sponsors of the bill
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were trying to override that veto. at the outset, the governor needed to flip three votes to make his veto stand. he had already flipped one with this thing he did about ordering the drugs from india. could he get two more votes today to keep the death penalty in place? the debate today in nebraska was very long. it was sometimes personal. it was sometimes very difficult to listen to, it was so prickly. but in the end when they counted the votes, the governor had lost by the narrowest possible means, the death penalty opponents had won. they repealed it. they had voted to repeal it before, he vetoed it, they overrode his veto with the slimmest of margins. nebraska has done what a red state has not done for four decades. nebraska today got out of the business of capital punishment and they did it with republican votes against a very powerful and very well resourced republican governor, and that powerful governor went up against a group of conservatives
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who seemed to have no chance, and the group with seemingly no chance won this one. and you know what happens next? today the conservatives concerned about the death penalty issued their own statement. they said they weren't surprised at all. by what happened in nebraska today, they are now moving on to talk to conservatives around the nation who will follow nebraska's example. and after the way this has played out in nebraska with this remarkable and dramatic vote today, who's to say they're not right. joining me now is jeremy norquist. thanks for being here today, it's a very big day in your state. >> it's so great to be with you. it is a historic day for nebraska and the entire movement to repeal the death penalty. >> i said it was hard to watch some of the debate today in part because it was so prickly, and it was a difficult debate. and at times it was personal,
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there was a lot of personal religious -- part of it was the drama of not knowing how it was going to turn out. did you know how it was going to turn out today heading into this bill? >> ever since the governor vetoed the bill, we've been having ongoing conversations with colleagues and it really came down to the last minute. and until the votes were set on the board, we were a little bit in doubt. and thank god that we were able to pull together 30 votes to repeal the death penalty, but the governor cashed in all of his political chips on this, and came up short. >> there is a unique system in nebraska in which you have a single house in your legislature, there's no house and senate. and also, it's a nonpartisan body, we know from nebraska politics it's a republican institution, is what made the difference this year that phenomenon of conservatives lobbying conservatives on
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conservative terms. there's been a lot of interest in the issue over the years, is that what put it over the line today? >> you know, there's been a committed block of us for a number of years who stand behind repealing the death penalty for moral reasons, and obviously the data is on our side as far as public safety and it not being a deterrence to crime. but what really tipped it was this group of what i would call physically conservative individuals who just see the death penalty as a wasteful government program right now, that in our state is completely broken. it's bordering on the ridiculous, the steps we're taking to try to obtain the drugs to implement lethal injection, and we have failed and failed and failed. in 2009 my first year in the legislature, we fought hard to
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block the bill to replace the electric chair which had been ruled unconstitutional with lethal injection, and we couldn't get 17 votes to block it. >> wow! >> but now we've been able to build a coalition with those moderate fiscal conservatives who see this as a wasteful program. they see it through pragmatic eyes rather than dog mattic eyes. >> jeremy nordquist, in story of what happened in nebraska will be taught in political science classes in years ahead. i know you've been a key part of this, thanks for joining us tonight. >> glad to be with you, rachel. >> fascinating. one of the things to watch on this story in nebraska is whether or not people who support the death penalty including the governor try to get it back through some sort of popular referendum. we saw this work through the legislature to get it repealed, including this incredible drama today. it will be interesting if they put it to a vote. and what the organizers will be
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particularly relevant to the story, the daily news goes out of their way to point out the guy in question is 450 pounds and when they want to call limb corrupt, they call him corpulant and corrupt. they give details about how the fbi picked the guy up on a manhattan sidewalk, you get the as that he was riding a mobility scooter down the manhattan sidewalk. he was riding that scooter to a pricey manhattan restaurant. he was a regular at a restaurant called elaine's. he held down two trump tower apartments, one that cost $18,000 a month for himself, and one adjacent that cost $6,000 a month for his cats. his cats. had their own apartment in the
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trump tower. i learned today in the new york times he used to wear a live parrot around as an accessory. there was the daily news last november with their scoop about the cat apartment and everything else you would want to know and more, about how the top soccer executive lived so large. the daily news had the scope on him turning states evidence back in november. today we learned the results of that investigation as loretta lynch announced a 47-count indictment against 14 different people involved at the highest levels of the world's most popular sport. international soccer is a multibillion dollar affair. and today's indictment says executives at the top of that sport figured out how to turn it
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into -- turn them into a multibillion dollar business into millions of dollars for themselves. some of the evidence in the case was gleaned through the not terribly willing corporation bigwig who walked into the fed's clutches. when he refused to file income taxes or explain the source of his lavish lifestyle. we learned today as part of the unveiling of this big case that chuck blazer secretly pled guilty to ten counts in november 2013 involving his taxes and lots else besides. the evidence he apparently secretly recorded on a secret key chain recorder, the other results turned into blunt allegations today that basically everything up and down the food chain, everything from which countries get to run the cup.
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everything has for years been for sale. >> in short, these individuals through these organizations engaged in bribery to decide who would televise games, where the games would be held and who would run the organization overseeing soccer worldwide. they did this over and over, year after year, tournament after tournament. >> it's a weird irony to see the attorney general of the united states bring these charges and see those soccer executives face arrest abroad, and extradition to the united states to face charges. the u.s. is thought of as one of the only countries in the world that isn't as in love with soccer as the rest of the world is.
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as evidenced by the fact that we call a whole different sport football. but this thing is a u.s. investigation, it's u.s. charges. it may have been the u.s. cat apartment guy who's saving his own skin evidence led to today's 47-part indictment. if you are an american international soccer star, if you are a star on the american national soccer team, today has to be a truly bizarre and perhaps distracting day. one of those stars is here next for the interview. stay with us. ♪ every auto insurance policy has a number. but not every insurance company understands the life behind it. ♪ those who have served our nation
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this upcoming sunday, may 30th, the u.s. women's national team has a match against south korea. they're going to play at the red bull arena, that arena holds over 25,000 people and again that is expected to be a soldout game. i just checked on line before we got on the air, there are still some tickets available. but by game time sunday all tickets are expected to be goeb. these are their last three matches. this match on sunday will be their final match before the start of the world cup. there's a lot of drama around the world cup. i mean, yeah, the world cup is always a big deal there's always these lingering worries that maybe americans aren't all that into soccer, the way that people are into soccer in other countries. this year, all of the women's teams send off matches, all of them are selling out.
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last time they played the world cup four years ago that wasn't the case. this year they're selling them all out. people are super pumped, that's part of it. the other part of the legit drama around this world cup, the women are being forced to play on artificial turf. the men don't have to play on artificial turf, they get to play on grass. all the practice fields and game fields are artificial turf. and the players are mad about it. the world cup is forcing them to do that anyway. that's not positive drama, that's negative drama, it's still dramatic. on top of all that, the charmers who are making the women play on artificial turf are an outfit you may have heard of called fifa. which distinguished itself today by having its top tier of executives indicted by the
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justice department, extraditing them from all over the world to face racketeering and corruption charges totaling more than $150 million in ill gotten gains and rigged bids and bribes, allegedly. if there's already no love lost between the players, the people who do the work and the organization that runs competitive soccer which loretta lynch described as corrupt in a deep rooted way. there's already no love lost between the players and the international governing body, dave described as having a level of grasp that would make caligula blush. if there was already a little frison between the fifa and the players already. consider how they've treated the women players of this international sport. the president of fifa has suggested that one way to make the women's game more popular is to adjust what they wear. female players are pretty, if you excuse me for saying so, they have different rules to men, such as playing with a lighter ball. why not do it in fashion? let the women play in more
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feminine clothes like they do in volleyball. they could have tighter shorts. he's the international president of fifa which saw lots of its other top executives indicted today. he was not among those named in the indictment today. if you are an international player who does this as your work, whose about to embark on an incredibly dramatic start to the top national competition in your field in the most popular sport in the world, this rattling of the golden cage today, this international haul them in, racketeering perpendicular walk for the executives who have been sucking the integrity of the sport like vampire leeches and making
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themselves rich off the blood and sweat of the players and the people who love the game? it's got to be somewhere between distracting and delicious and bewildering to have all this happening right at the start of your world cup trip. joining us for the interview is megan rapino who i was really looking forward to talking to today even before all of fifa got arrested this morning at a zurich hotel. i have to imagine as a professional athlete that most of what you are thinking about right now has got to be playing south korea this weekend? >> right, the singular focus, of course. everybody gets up and has their coffee and reads the paper in the morning. that was an interesting one to wake up to. >> is this a huge distraction for you guys? >> you're doing your media day
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stuff, getting people psyched for the world cup. everyone wants to talk about it, is it distracting? >> i don't think so. i think it's a shock they're being indicted. i don't think it's a big shock that people think they've taken bribes and they've had all this corruption. it doesn't come as a shock in that way, kind of just one more thing on the plate, and it's okay, today was our media day, it was a good day for it all to hit. >> in one sense you get it all cleared. as the world cup approaches, there has been this other drama about the turf issue in canada, which again is not about how you play, not about how you prep, not about how you scout other teams and all that stuff, but sort of an externality.
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is that a concern for you guys as you head in, do you feel like you've adjusted to it, how is that going to affect the world cup this year? >> we've adjusted as well as we can. it's harder on your body. we have an extra game. there's seven games to get to the final this year. we can do as much as we can. i'm not 22 any more. it will be a little harder, we'll file a lawsuit, and got a lot of press on it, i think what we have done, there won't be another woman's cup on turf, we couldn't get it done for this one. >> you'll have to play this one, but you think it will never happen again? >> i think so. i hope so, i mean, that would be a definite slap in the face if the next one was. >> is the worry injury or more complicated than that? >> i think it's both. there definitely is an injury worry which is harder on your body, the quality of the game is just, you just -- the top games aren't played on turf, and i think you know, people try to argue, all the teams are playing, and it's the same surface for everyone, they would never blink at putting that for any kind of top level men's game, to have the biggest event something that is for something a once in a lifetime opportunity to have it on a second rate surface is disappointing and disrespectful. >> watching the numbers -- the attendance numbers for you guys
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spike, especially in the leadup to the world cup has to be exciting. women have been so disrespected by fifa. and continue to be including this issue with the turf and outloud, including by the president of fifa, i wonder if you see that those numbers going up and the increasing popularity of the sport is something that's going to give you guys more leverage in terms of getting your due, in terms of the way that the professional leagues are treated, the way that international competition is treated and how women factor into this sport in the world? >> yeah, i think so. while on the one hand fifa can say that blatter was quoted as saying he's the godfather of women's soccer. you don't get a congratulation for doing the right thing. these federations are being mandated to put more money in the women's program, we're also making money now, we're selling out stadiums. you know, i think we came and saw you after the last women's
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g-a-n-b-b-o -- may i start over? gamboge, g-a-m-b-o-g-e. >> yeah. because he tripped over himself like that, the judges had to confer. the conferring went on for 1:30. poor jojo just stood there waiting, wondering what they were going to do. until finally, no! >> gamboge is spelled gamboge. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> apparently jojo was not allowed to start over the way he did when he said can i start over? you can't. my response at that point would have been are you kidding me followed by a tantrum, but jojo was calm and polite. that is why i'm not a spelling bee champion and one of those kids will be asked tomorrow. the fact that this spelling bee is one of our national past times, the fact that this is happening when the biggest story in the world today is the
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