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filibuster attempt by senator rand paul and moved ahead with a usa freedom act. i'm krystal ball and we expect a senate vote on final passage of that bill this hour. the upper chamber is working its way through the series of amendments to that house passed bill. the big difference between this and expired patriot act provisions is it ends the nsa's dragnet of metadata. but any additions to the original bill require an okay from the house and initial sponsors of the bill warn the house is not likely to accept changes proposed by senator mcconnell. that is a position echoed by the house majority leader sending the bill back to the house will cause a longer lapse of surveillance power as ensomething the white house compared to playing russian roulette with our national security. >> we've seen republicans in the
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united states senate play far too many games with a piece of legislation critical to the national security of the united states and civil liberties of the american people. >> we start the hour with nbc's luke russert on the hill. luke, what is in these changes that the house really objects to here. >> reporter: well what they say is on may 13th they passed a bill usa freedom act with 338 votes that was overwhelmingly bipartisan. this came after months much painstaking negotiations and the senate has no right to do away with the legs lagz because they screwed up. rand paul called his bluff and mitch mcconnell got left with nothing to show for it. the issue really at hand and hear this from republicans privately, mcconnell was working on trade legislation before the memorial day recess he knew where we stood and how the heck are we backing down from legislation that had 338
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supporters. now there's an interesting question the first amendment mcconnell put forward it just went down. now there are three more going to be put forward. if any one of those gets the 51 votes to pass then that legislation would be deemed changed and the house would have to decide whether or not to accept those changes. as what you put up on the screen and aides i spoken to privately, they do not want to change this bill. they say in the time it would take to change the bill means the nsa program would go dark. if there is a problem, put the legislation forward and let's try to work on something in the next few weeks after the fact so we don't keep these programs dark anymore. if one of these amendments passes, it will be fascinating to see what the house mood will be but to have mccarthy at the backing of john boehner say to mitch mcconnell can't do it cold water, it's stunning and i think it shows you on this one the brilliant tact tigs mitch
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mcconnell had a misplay here. >> luke russert, thanks for that analysis. chris coons is voting for the usa freedom act. senator, you've said the freedom act is not perfect, why are you voting for if you think it's not perfect? >> i'm voting for it because this is the first real chance to make substantial changes to the bulk collection program. while still extending some of the strengths and counterterrorism capabilities that we do need to go forward as the conversation just a few moments ago reminded us this is a real moment of failure for republican leadership in the senate. i think the fact that the house came together in a big bipartisan vote to advance usa freedom act was a positive for the house and the fact that we were playing last minute games right up until the memorial day recess folk ug s on other bills and trying to jam this bill a clean reauthorization of the
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patriot act through rather than the usa freedom act was a significant tactical misstep by mitch mcconnell. it's my hope that all of the amendments up today will fail, that we'll ultimately pass the usa freedom act because doing so will make some progress in improving the bulk data collection program and show we can come together in a bipartisan way and make revisions long overdo. >> senator, you say some progress and certainly legislatively this bill deals with the data collection that's been so controversial and tries to make that secret fisa court more balanced or fair. but as you know it doesn't deal with the way the nsa misled the public and congress to some degree. it does not deal with the controversial way the nsa seem to be freelancing, spying on even our allies without telling the president which upset a lot of people. what else would you want to see change here with regard to how congress regulates the nsa?
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>> well there's a series of steps proposed both in legislation and in hearings that i think would be strong moves forward but i'll just remind you when i first got here five years ago, and we took up these issues the last time the patriot act extension was considered and i was one of a handful who voted against it these issues dbts get any hearing at all. i choose to take this as a step forward. i agree with you that more and stronger and broader controls over how these authorities are being used are needed but frankly in a republican controlled congress to get to a place where the house is overwhelmingly voted for some significant reforms, i think is a step forward and we in the senate should simply take that and enact it into law before we put at rest some of the things essential to protecting our country. >> it is pretty remarkable there. thank you so much for your time
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today. as the senate debates the usa freedom act, boston officials are speaking about the possible terror suspect police shot and killed this morning outside a drug store. nbc news learned he was armed and under surveillance by the joint terrorism task force. they also believe he may have been radicalized by isis inspired messages online. let's listen to authorities. >> this is the knife that was used and i can put it up here. michael, you want to hold that. that's the particular knife that the officers were retreating and recovered from the scene. >> thank you very much commissioner. as the commissioner mentioned my name is dan -- >> been listening there to a press conference with authorities in boston. we've lost the feed but we'll
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a final vote is expected on the usa freedom act. let's thank you for being with us, professor. >> my pleasure. >> let's talk about the comments about how important the provisions that have lapsed are. how vital are these provisions for national security really? >> different people tell different stories the commission
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put together of some scholars and law professors intelligence officials suggested that the dragnet program had not resulted in any successful clearly successful circumstances of blocking a terrorist action. that doesn't mean that our other methods of collecting information are necessarily equally as successful but it is not clear that the dragnet collection of information that we gathered is working. however, the flip side of that is we can't know what we don't know. we do know that once we have an individual we can identify we have through the dragnet, the possibility of looking to all numbers that person called and
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all other numbers that others have called down the line. you hear different stories. >> professor, this is an interesting week for following this because it's the first time these powers have every expired since 9/11. and of course laws aren't like milk or yogurt don't usually expire at all. this was delivery drafted after 9/11 because they wanted the congress said a cooling off period to help reassess. and as you know and many of the viewers will remember, that's not what happened in '06 and 2011 treated as a deadline got to do it no real reassessment. what do you make of the fact that this time the deadline has hit and unlike the past times seen as a deadline that had to be avoided we're getting a debate and looks like today some change in the reform. why is that? >> certainly you have degree of public support that's far beyond what's ever been before. some people say the public now has a.m.mnesia about what life is
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like after 9/11 and people have a more balanced perception on what the risks and dangers are with regard to bulk data collection. at least we're having a significant debate. i do not claim that the collection of information like this is necessarily -- of the constitution. i do think we need to think more seriously than we did after 9/11 far more seriously. >> that's a good point. professor, talk about how we would be thinking about this differently given where the mood of the country is at you think right after 9/11 when all of this came about, we wouldn't be debating this. really how we're feeling at the time, we're feeling uneasy and with the rise of isis talk about the impact of that as laws we're debating where they stand in terms of how the country is feeling? >> well i think there is at least for some parts of the country there is an awareness
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that the possibility that isis has foreign fighters that may have passports that will allow them entry into the united states raises a number of concerns that have not been present over the last couple of years. there's probably a greater public awareness of the possibility but there's also greater public awareness that we ought to criticize our data collection processes so that this is the kind of debate we ought to be having at least we're getting a more realistic balance with regard to privacy and security in ways we haven't had it before. >> that is rare good news from washington. thanks so much for joining us. now we'll get right to 2016 politics. hillary clinton has been quietly campaigning for president. she holds small events and keeps a fairly light schedule and only presidential candidate at this point yet to do a single sit down tv interview. that is changing however this month. she just announced her first big campaign rally will take place a
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kickoff at roosevelt island in new york and she's way ahead of potential rivals in iowa and national majority says she's not trust worthy and favorable rating hit the lowest level since she was first lady and facing a challenge from socialist democrat bernie sanders who even clinton supporters says bring key issues to the table. here's al franken on msnbc last night. >> i support hillary for president, i thnk she would make a great president but good for bernie. he had several thousand people out in minnesota, my state the other day and he is raising issues that need to be raised. >> for more we go to a man who knows presidential politics former party chair and presidential candidate, howard dean endorsed hillary clinton. thanks for being here. >> i have thanks for having me on. >> you hear al franken say it and folks say it rach elmaddow making the case this is good for the party and democracy to have the issues on the table.
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does that imply that some of these issues that bernie is raising, taking on wall street progressive approach to taxes wouldn't be on the table with a standard hillary clinton candidacy? >> i think that is the implication but it's not true. when hillary announced as she did at town meetings and that's in fact exactly what she talked about, is income inequality. she's been talking about child -- early childhood issues since she got into politics 35 years ago. so i think all this does is sharpen, sharpen her views and her views don't really actually need sharpening and gives her a platform. i think it is good for the party but i also think it's going to be good for hillary. >> you're obviously a vermonter -- >> i am. >> as ari said jumped in the race officially last week. what do you think about bernie and he seems to be the person
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who is not hillary catching the most fire on the democratic side right now. do you think he's the best alternative? >> i'm not looking for an alternative? i have my presidential candidate, hillary clinton, i think she's going to win the whole thing. here's what bernie brings to the race, i've known him a long time. first of all, he's incredibly authentic. this is what he's been talking about this issue for 40 years. secondly, he is not a dirty campaigner, which is nice when you have primaries. that can get disinstructing and drive up people's negatives. he'll stick to issues and pretty articulate person i think he'll being a plus to the campaign as a whole. >> he enjoys talking to the media and at times questions them right back and tries to have a debate. as ari was pointing out, hillary does not have a good relationship with the press, does not like to speak to the press. why? is it -- some people are saying
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she's above it all, already a shoe-in or afraid of making gaffes? >> i don't think it's either one. i don't trust the press. you simply can't trust them. they will write stories before they come and talk to you and look for quotes and fill them in and disguise reporting as opinion. you see the same thing with the president, the president is resented by the press, well that press brings it on themselves. they take on additional jobs getting your name on the front page of your paper is a very important job for you and that's what your editor wants. i know people who have admitted that the editor told them what to write and then they go out looking for quotes. i had a guy used to work telling me they were going to say i was an insider trader if i didn't get mif last ten years of tax returns to them. hillary clinton -- she's running for president, might not want to deal with russia either and not trust them this is going to be
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part of the job. >> she will when she gets around to it. she'll do it on her timetable not the press's timetable and that's driving the press crazy and i'm on hillary's side. >> you can certainly trust us for here. campaigners come and go what can hillary do to be a better campaigner? >> i think it's going to be perfectly apparent to people when we get into the election it's a good thing bernie and martin o'malley are in the race. when she's on stage debating them, that's going to help her. she's a person in my view who can best manage this country. she's a great manager, we need a good manager as president next time. we need somebody with foreign policy experience and despite
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lindsey graham's protestations he knows nothing about -- >> that experience is clear and potential to manage do you think she's a good campaigner? >> i think she is a good campaigner but the problem is that the last time she ran there was this aura of inevitability and she has a particular problem because she has her own political career. bill clinton is the most extraordinary politician that i've seen in night lifetime and i think he's the most extraordinary politician that goes back since franklin roosevelt. she has to run her race not bill clinton's race and that's what she's going to do this time. i like exactly what she's doing, talking to small groups of people and getting her points out and driving the press crazy, they are complaining and moaning and groaning. they'll get over it. it will be on her terms and i think that's fair. >> you've got roosevelt on the mind and so does she and she's launching this kickoff at roosevelt island. stay tuned. howard dean thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> we do look at breaking news
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in the sports world just days after winning re-election fifa's president resigns. and behind the scenes of the cover story actually literally breaking the internet. >> literally. >> internet broken today. >> literally. >> from the man who spent a lot of time with bruce and caitlin jenner and "the cycle" rolls on for tuesday, june 2nd. stay with us. two airplane fuel gauges. can you spot the difference? no? you can't see that? alright, let's take a look. the one on the right just used 1% less fuel than the one on the left. now, to an airline a 1% difference could save enough fuel to power hundreds of flights around the world. hey, look at that. pyramids. so you see, two things that are exactly the same have never been more different. ge software. get connected. get insights. get optimized. why pause a spontaneous moment to take a pill? or stop to find a bathroom?
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breaking news sepp blatter is resigning. he was elected to a fifth term on friday confirming that he was until recently the most powerful man in sports. the department of justice of course recently arrested nine current and former fifa officials on charges of corruption. rocking the organization to its core. for more let's bring in mary
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pileon it is incorrect to refer to fifa as being frougt with corruption or riddled with crime, it is itself a corrupt act and itself the crime. is the problem here sepp blatter and his folks or is fifa systemically corrupt. >> whoever replaces him has their work cut out for them. usually in sports there's a scandal, this is the organization for the highest levels down is really really corrupt. to borrow language everybody else has been using, even blatter out, there's going to be a massive overhaul of how it's been running. >> it seems you're set up to have corruption when you have an organization that each country gets one vote equally. it becomes very ceasye easy to corrupt
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smaller nations. >> there's leading up to this people have been pushing for blatter to step down. one of the best take-downs ss blatter where he was hitting on sponsors for not doing anything. >> the only people with the power to get rid of sepp blat blatter, are these sponsors please, make him go away. i'll do anything. adeed das, i'll wear one of your ugly shoes. i'll take a bite out of every item on your dollar menu. pull your support and help get rid of blatter, i'll personally drink one of your disgusting items and even drink a bud light lime. if you get rid of the swiss demon who ruined the sport i
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love, this stuff will taste like [ bleep ] champagne. >> this is the best part this where he shows a bottle of bud light with lime -- what has happened from friday to today? friday we announced on this show that he was re-elected. what happened in a matter of days? did he realize he could be indicted as well? >> this is a really sharp reversal on friday when he's re-elected and talks about how great this is. there's a few different theories and we're waiting for this to shake out. one is legally were putting cutting deals and giving more information than the department of justice had before and the sponsor piece, they are writing checks to fifa if you're a sponsor with lance armstrong, for example, another scandal, nike was directly tied to the lance brand. if you're a fifa sponsor, how many are biting big maces and thinking this is the tie to fifa. nobody really yanked their
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checkbook right away. if those phone lines weren't ringing between then and now i would be surprised too. he's far from being done in terms of the legal fallout here. >> i know the sponsor piece is something you've been writing about pointing out these are the organizations that are funding fifa. when will the pressure come on them? there's another interesting news item sepp blatter was saying all of this is the uk and u.s.'s fall, they are bitter they didn't win the world cup, obviously obviously. that something that he thinks or that a perception in other places around the world? >> i think his -- the level of em pathty that fans have towards him is already pretty slim and going to get weaker with that. i don't think that excuse because the indictment is so detailed and extensive and corruption issues aren't new, things that have plagued fifa for years and years. that's not going to gain a lot of traction. >> he's wrong in the sense this is having looked at the indictment very strong
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indictment about practices we know about but legally he's stumbling on something that is a legitimate concern in other areas where putin did seize on it. in most countries it is not normal to go out abroad and try to enforce domestic law against foreign individuals for crimes that occurred abroad. that is where the phrase world's policeman comes from. and yet it goes to where you're reporting on that this is a fundamentally international organization. is it going to be accountable to any one country? no that's been the attitude. is he trying to go into a bunk are and disappear? >> well the fifa headquarters already looks like a bunker, maybe that tactic hasn't worked out well. i think you lawyer up a lot of these are multinational companies but in fact head quartered in the united states. the u.s. has a role in international soccer but you're getting at something interesting
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with the nature of politics and sports borders are more fluid. i think that the doj -- i would be surprised if a lot of people push back on that or continued to. >> and tour'e fifa is like the internet, it transcends all laws but potentially subject to every nation's laws if anyone has the power to go after them. >> we will know this is not about america not getting the world cup because we know america does not care about soccer. thank you so much for coming by today. another story everyone continues to talk and tweet and facebook about, bruce jenner's reintroduction to the world at caitlin jenner the twitter handle broke the record and got there in four hours, she now has reached 2 million in 24 hours and this morning on the "today" show the author of upcoming "vanity fair" cover story talked about his time with caitlin.
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>> you spent many hours with bruce jenner and with caitlin jenner there's a physical difference -- >> big physical difference. >> huge physical difference but difference in personality? >> it's beginning of caitlin jenner's life but more open more honest more connected, more everything centered i think caitlin has found her soul really bruce never had. >> you almost get the sense that caitlin is euphoric to be free. >> and i think that's the case. i just spoke to her yesterday. i'm free. i can live. i don't care about the paparazzi anymore, just making sure it's a good shot but more than that it's relating to the children from first two marriages and having a relationship. he never had a relationship. she is going to have bonds. she's going to be free and have fun. she was completely isolated i think for the last five or six years of his life as bruce. >> you mentioned the kids. she has these four kids from
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first marriages. >> that's right. >> you delve deeply into that relationship. i think one of the more shocking parts of this is actually what you reveal about the then father children relationship that bruce had and in many ways he was an absentee father. >> he was and admits that and it was hard for them as they were entering adole he is sense, he was gone he was remarried, married to kris jenner and concentrating on the kardashians and forgot about these kids. it was very hard and burt jenner said you know it's really hard to idolize someone who won the olympics. bruce jenner won the olympics. i wish my father hadn't done that because i missed him. he wasn't there. he wasn't there for any of them. but one of the beautiful parts of this as caitlin, they are really trying hard to reconnect. bruce said at one point, what are my options, i can move to alaska and live in the hills on an iceberg somewhere but the
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paparazzi will find me. i can do that or figure out i need to go public. i think the docu series will be a combination of the serious and she's going to have fun and try to hit a golf ball 300 yards, it's much harder with breasts, let's face it. >> that is not the last we'll be talking about caitlin jenner much more "cycle" is ahead. my school reunion's coming fast. could be bad. could be a blast.
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replace the acting head of the tsa came quickly after this internal investigation found tsa agents failed miserably when homeland security red teams tried to smuggle weapons past check points. tsa is still waiting on congress to affirm a new administrator but the current head of homeland security is ordering immediate changes ats all airports. >> the acting hid of the tsa is out, melvin carraway immediately reassigned to another area within the department of homeland security. the move comes after a humiliating internal investigation from homeland security found tsa checkpoint screeners failed to detect mock explosives and weapons and other contraband in an overwhelming majority of tests carried out by undercover agents by homeland security red teams charged with probing tsa check points nationwide. nbc news confirmed tsa screening officers failed to detect smuggled weapons in 67 out of 70
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attempts a 95% failure case. in one case an alarm sounded but even down a pat-down the screening officer failed to find a fake explosive. >> any of these failures are a concern from the training standpoint, are the officers resolving alarms when technology detects them. >> additional red team test results are classified but the tsa has been directed to conduct training for all of the officers in airports nationwide as well as intensive training for all super advisory personnel. >> i think what this suggests, the system is in need of serious analysis to determine what the problem is. >> it's been 14 years since the tsa was stood up since 9/11 and we have seen tsa officers wounded even killed on the job. they have confiscated dangerous weapons nearly every week. last year they confiscated a record number of weapons and
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record number of passengers. the question is what do they need to do to ensure that the tsa is operating as it should and is actually being efficient and capture and catching those individuals who may have weapons? back to you. thanks so much for that report. the tsa's 2014 budget was more than $7 billion. is all of that money buying us a false sense of security? this is something "the cycle" to talk about. this comes at a time with the patriot act as we're debating the world that we want to live in in this nation post 9/11 and to make shir all of the money we're putting forward is really effective. and this is a story everyone can relate to, traveling already frustrating on so many levels. you think with this report when it comes out, not talking about 50% of it not getting caught. we're talking about 100%. and their pushback is that these were undercover operations that
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they tried to sneak it through. what are terrorists going to do put them in their bag or try to sneak it through? >> this is probably not the appropriate response bupt i couldn't help dying laughing because here we take off the shoes and belt and practically get naked in front of these tsa security officers and then they are only successful 5% of the time. i mean, we've all had the water bottle we forgot to take out of the bag and get through, oh, me didn't notice. how much more are they missing? i don't think any of us are shocked they are not finding anything but 95%. >> that's the thing, the 95% makes it seem like this doesn't work at all ever. >> right, right. >> you have to pause on that. and you can say all that and have that reaction and saying yes you have public servants and people who put themselves in danger. but 95% -- >> you can't blame the workers
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either -- >> the system's failure of some kind. >> the system's problem if you're having that level of failure. >> tour'e how do you feel -- 95% makes you wonder how do they get the 5% -- they are this bad, was it an accident to get the three out of 70? >> it's amazing they got those three out of the 7 o. i don't want to join the pile-on -- >> that's because you do pre-check tour'e. >> that's the way to go. >> i don't want to join the pile-on. the individual tsa folks, they do the best they can each day but overall, this does seem to me like security theater. and it's very reactionary they are constantly responding to what the terrorists do they have an underwear bomber and then checking our full body. how little they know that they are constantly responding -- i found a great article from a guy
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used to work for tsa, working for the tsa has the feel of riding atop the back the top of a large dopey dog chasing its tail clockwise and back again -- >> if you read the quote instead of saying it yourself you're not joining the pile-on. >> i started with the folks are doing the best they can. there's a deeper human nature thing when people are scared they want to feel safe. sometimes feeling safe comes ahead of actually being safe and that's part of what we're giving folks here. >> this is getting a lot of attention. real talk, how do you feel when you take off your shoes -- >> i feel insulted. >> and know that it's 95%. i want to test you can walk in with shoes on and they wouldn't notice now? >> they notice the shoes, they definitely notice. >> cell phone in your pocket
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forget it. >> you didn't take off your belt, oh my goodness. >> it is sort of a mental game for a lot of people an they want to feel safe -- >> i think it has a deter ent effect. >> all of a sudden let's do away with it all together would people want to board planes? i'm very afraid to fly. i appreciate the security now i'm wondering if any of it -- >> i'm not sure how much of a deterrent effect there is you're raising the fence but you can still figureatively get over the fence. >> the food in the airport is terribly overpriced and not very good. >> it's bad. >> what is the deal with airport food, go ahead, abby we're done. >> ari is doing impressions now, we're done. >> a ceremony at the white house today 100 years in the making. unbelievable! toenail fungus? seriously? smash it with jublia!
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>> today a ceremony in the white house -- >> a 16-year-old kid from the midwest -- >> today at a ceremony in the white house east room president obama post humously awarded the medal of honor. sergeant henry johnson who was black and william shennan who was jewish ks were severely wounded as they saved the lives
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of fellow soldiers on the battle field of france. they fought at a time when the service did not always honor theory lidgeous and ethnic minority minorities, our next guest knows about the bravery required in battle flew over 150 combat missions as a legendary wild weasels unit and chronicles it in the new book called "hunter killers", tells the story of the pilots tasked with the most dangerous missions during the vee et vietnam war. >> tell us about the wild weasels and how they came to be. >> it's a nutty job. the guys i wrote about turned out to be my true heroes they didn't have any -- they didn't as much of technology that i did. and they certainly -- they were feeling it out as they went. i had the benefit of 20 years of trial and error coming before me
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and everything those guys fought and died to do they didn't have that. they went into flying by the seat of their pants so to speak. >> these guys were supposed to be flying into vietnam, to draw enemy fire to them and then fire before they could fire -- i mean, it's an extraordinary tactic. i'm sure there's amazing stories from those guys. can you tell us one of the great stories you heard? >> i did the same thing but later and what you said is exactly the essence of it you fly in and you pit somebody off until they come up and shoot at you. if you survive, you go and kill them -- it's the middle part if you survive bit -- >> that's an important part. >> little catch. these guys were doing it mostly with eyeballs and primitive electronic equipment. there was a gentlemen named leo and jerry hoblet were flying as
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pairs, they did it all that day. they went in and fought the guns and and the migs showed up and got into a dogfight and got some of those guys. then somebody got shot down and they had to do search and rescue. that's the name of the chapter, a full day's work. the more i got to talk to these guys face to face the -- i wouldn't i felt smaller but i was more humbled by what did and how they did it. they didn't have the benefit of all of stuff we have now. >> you were also in the air on september 11th 2001. tell us about that. >> it was a weird day, wasn't it? we all have memories of that day. i never thought i would be flying an armed fighter over my own country. but to do it here and think my country is now attacked and nobody knew
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>> nobody knew what the extend of it would be. we had some -- i thought i told you that story. about flying over atlanta. there was a delta jet. i think it was a delta jet. we had to join up on them and make sure that there was a guy with shoulder boards and no beard in the cockpit. >> what you're saying is you're up in the in the air confirming that this is not another attack. >> how do you do that? >> well they had a radio but they were on a different frequency and everybody was confused that day. so we just joined up -- you know fighters fly close together. it's no big deal for us. most commercial pilots were military pilots anyway. but the first time this guy saw me was when he looked out his window and i'm 15 feet away. this big, beautiful f-16. missiles and everything. >> that will wake you up. >> are you more scared of him? >> i wasn't scared at all. he gave me a very american hand gesture. so i knew that he was -- >> one that we can't do on television. >> yeah, we won't do it on tv.
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but i responded in kind. so we both knew who we were. >> when i think about what makes this country so great i think about the brave men and women that serve. their humility and willingness to step up when times are difficult. and you look at our country's history and you compare it to the amount that wanted to serve back in the day to now. and it's few and far between. in world war ii, 12% of the u.s. population serving the military. less than 5% in 2013. members of congress in 1975, 70% serve in the u.s. military. in 2013 20%. why are we seeing that? >> well i think the statistics you just quoted can go a long way to answering a lot of the questions and problems that we have with congress on whatever side of the aisle you're on. as far as the willingness to serve, you saw after 9/11 there was a surge in people feeling patriotic and joining up. i think one of the great things about this country is when push
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comes to shove, they will do it. what is disheartening is the statistics of some of our allies. less than 30% of the britons are unwilling to serve. but we don't count on them anyway. i think americans will come through when they have to. >> dan hampton, thank you so much for your service and thank you for being with us today. we really appreciate it. >> my pleasure as always thanks. and next fresh off the controversial supreme court decision yesterday, my take on when a threat is not really a threat until someone gets hurt. now the world's number one natural gas producer... and we could soon become number one in oil. . is safely recovering lots more oil and natural gas. supporting millions of new jobs. billions in tax revenue... and a new century of american energy security. the new energy superpower? it's red, white and blue. log on to learn more.
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if i only knew then what i know now, i would have smothered
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your ass with a pillow, dumped you in the back seat left your body in toad creek and made it look like rape and murder. anthony saying these words and many more at his ex-wife posting them to his facebook page where she was likely to see them. he also threatened to shoot up a kindergarten classroom. then he threatened a female fbi agent who came to his house to investigate. and for good measure, he threatened a female co-worker who was so frightened she prepared a hiding place from him just in case. but over and over again, it was his ex-wife who received the brunt of his violently threatening anger. after she got a restraining order, she wrote, put it in your pocket. is it thick enough to stop a bullet? she argued that these were not threats at all, but attempt at rap lyrics. they were therapeutic for him. as we reported yesterday, the supreme court agreed deciding that it didn't matter how vile the words were it didn't matter how terrified his ex-wife was, it didn't matter that a reasonable person could look at
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these words and view them as a real threat. all that mattered was his state of mind. did he really intend to murder his ex-wife? he said no. and so the very real damage and strain on his ex-wife was without consequence. the aclu hailed this as a victory for free speech while saying it's not a license to threaten. but whose right to speak is really under attack? in virginia where i used to live feminists at the local university penned an op-ed criticizing the rugby team's song that glorified rape and violence against women. as frequently happens when women speak out, they were attacked. specifically students took to the anonymous social media app yikyak to threaten and degrade these women. over 700 messages attacking the women who dared speak, poured on to yik yak. messages like going to tie these feminists to the radiator and grape them in the mouth. yik yak filters out words like
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rape hence that creative writing. they asked the university to do something, but citing free speech concerns the university claimed their hands were tied. and then, one of the women who penned the op-ed was murdered. allegedly strangled to death by a former rugby player. was it related to the attacks on yik yak where at least some of the threats were real and more than just idiotic college kids mouthing off? we don't have the answer now and we may never have it. but to the young women bullied online at umw, the threats were real and truly inspired terror. who will stand up for their right to speak out without having to endure disturbing threats? what court will care that women who are 27 times more likely to receive sexually explicit or threatening messages are having their speech chilled? there's one thing i know for sure, there is nothing free about the speech of alanis or those students. nothing free about speech that aims to terrify and intimidate. this speech comes at a great price. the supreme court and the aclu are wrong here. it's common sense.
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all right, that does it for "the cycle." "now with alex wagner starts right now. the senate is set to vote any minute to reform government surveillance. fifa's president resigns amid scandal. and tsa screeners score a 95% failure rate. but first, the republican 2016 field heads to the happiest place on earth. it's tuesday, june 2nd, and this is "now." >> they're calling it the economic policy summit but we know what it really is. a cattle call. >> we're here on the property of disney, a place where imagination reigns. >> if i didn't think i could compete, i wouldn't have been here today. i wouldn't have made four trips to florida. >> we shouldn't