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senate gym everybody else is there to watch "morning joe." 245e6r7b89sd the previous story about fifa. >> fifa president sepp blatter announcing he is resigning only four days after he was re-elected. >> now sepp blatter will go back to sounding like disease you look up on web, m.d. fifa president sepp blaert announced he is he signing after a week since the corruption scandal. you can never trust the 79-year-old blatter. he's not a great basketball player. >> why is that? >> but he's a good dribbleer. wow, i'm flushed. >> he's european. >> that's right. >> it's in the contract.

>> he sat owe stepped down four days after he was elected. the fifa guy. talk about arrogance. >> he said a couple days ago i shall not step down to to do so would be an ad mission of guilt. that was ability three days ago. there you go. >> wow! okay. >> maybe it's all coming together. >> big news. what else is going on in the news today? usa today? this is a big headline a. lot of libertarians on the right a. lot of liberals on the left. nsa data collection ended. we'll see how long that lasts, but it's something and also the "new york times" leading with that headline and a lot more to talk about today, mica. >> let's start with sepp blatter. four days after he was elected to the governing body fifa. sepp blatter officially announced she out. >> although the members of fifa

reelected me president, this mandate does not seem to be supported by everybody in the world of football. this is why i will call an extraordinary congress and put at disposal it is going to be held as soon as possible and a few president will be elected to follow me. >> so this comes less than a week after then high ranking fifa officials were indicted by the u.s. justice department and a source familiar with the investigation has now confirmed to nbc news the fbi is looking into whether blatter, himself, engaged in any wrongdoing. as for choosing his replacement, this i don't get, fifa says a new election could be held as late as march 2016. so he will be there for how long? >> he has to clean some records up. >> another year? >> highway has cleaning up to do in the office.

>> just need a year guy if i could. i'll leaving. >> he needs to leave today, right? >> they have an emergency meet i don't know. he may leave from a couple month, we'll see. by that willie there guy, a well known, when john kerry had an affair with a well known wife, he said there is good news in that too, when he goes to latin america, they willgy him a stand ogvation. they respect that sort of behavior there. there was a time when racism was rampant across fifa they wanted to have all these sensitivity clinics. he says you know racism can be cured by a handshake on the field. >> hmm. >> and then there was that wonderful moment when fifa was doing its straw for the 2014 world cup. nelson mandela had died the day before. up to the announced moment of

silence for mandela and blatter started talking 11 seconds later. he's a very self important man who is now i suspect on the way to jail. >> but his arrogance perhaps caught up to him at this point. but you think about how many soccer fans and people around the game know this open secret that fifa is totally corrupt. there have been long pieces written about it and essays given on tv. and now it took loretta lynch, the united states attorney general to shine a light, put back the curtain. as we have said many times, i think qatar was a bridge into tar. that was the one that they said wait a minute this makes absolutely no sense, let's look into it. >> again, have you bill clinton, eric holder over there, the u.s. attorney general over there. they should have realizet when they did something so openly corrupt bill clinton, i think they came back and started talking about it loretta lynch.

>> we waited a long time for loretta lynch. >> doing a great job. developing news overnight in massachusetts, a man was arrested in an ongoing terrorism investigation in boston and could face charges as soon as today. hours earlier, authorities shot and killed a man who they say was under 24 hour under surveillance. officers say they opened fire after they approached him and he lunged at them with a knife. nbc steve williams has more on the investigation. >> reporter: officials tell nbc news they were concerned he had become radicalized by isis inspired social media and was actively considering an attack on officers in the next few days in a city still traumatized by the 2013 marathon. although they have no arrest they were fearing an investigation soon. >> we thought it was appropriate to question him about his

doings. >> reporter: his brother, a former boston area imam said the family is grieving but wrote he was shot in the back three times while talking to his father on the phone saying "i can't breathe." police say he was shot twice in the abdomen and torso, not in the back. they searched his roz dindale home and if rhode island they are investigating whether he was in touch with others who also may have been radicalized by isis inspired propaganda. >> a mid-line democrat has connecticut democrats scrambling as four employers blasted a tax proposal yesterday. we were talking about this yesterday t. hartford courant worry about some of the connecticut's biggest corporation, worked yesterday on trying to scale back tear budget's business tax plan the current proposal replaces it with higher cigarette taxes. i've heard of this before in

connecticut connecticut. a 50 center per pack increase. everyone goes across state lines to buy cigarettes. this after a major employer blamed three others in a state tax hike. pharmaceuticals joins ge,aetna and travelers in voicing here opposition to the plan that in part funds daniel malloy's spending. sthai they went to the state capitol and heard from lawmakers. here's what they heard from the opposition. >> so the euntary tax is something that these corporations are really focusing on in this budget. tell me about that. >> reporter: sure, the unitary tax is is something everyone has to follow for the revenue and income in the united states of america, they include foreign

operations as well. that's a very scary thing for these corporations because the tax is oftentimes misadministered, they end up owing more tax to the state of connecticut than they honestly owe the state of connecticut. it's a big clang for them a. big proposed change for them. i don't blame them for being nervous about it at all. >> reporter: there was a gol lup poll if 2013-2014 that said 49% of connecticut residents polled would loo tev state if they could afford to. -- leave the state if they could afford to. does that shock you? >> i think if you ask them now, it would be the majority. >> the problem is people can only take so much. i'm shocked these companies haven't come out sooner than this because they have been in addition to budget and that et set remarks it's bad policy its bad policies like paid sick leave and different things that are taking the businesses in the state of connecticut and just telling them just get out. they might as well just tell them get out. >> they're talking about getting out. this is really a national story.

because it talks about what happens when you keep raising and raising and raising taxes and you don't take care of pensions and you don't take care of retirement plans and you know that number. again, you worked there, it's been a battle for years. but everybody wanted to move to connecticut 20 years ago. it was a great state, great education, great jobs tax haven. now, nobody wants to move there and other than people like me. >> business wise. >> and business wise. and 50% of the people surveyed in a recent poll said if they had a chance they would move out of the state. they can't afford to move out of the state because nobody but me is moving into the state. i mean that's a terrible situation. and i don't know what the deal is. >> louis got into the connecticut house speaker's office and got some action.

>> how did he get in there? >> i don't know. roving around. he got reaction from one of the state's most powerful democrats. >> this budget provides relief for a number of places in the state, property tax relief for working families first. but also makes major investments in our transportation system which the government announced earlier this year. these are things that the corporate community has been calling for, for decades, really, pla josh investments which in our transportation system which has gone undone in the last several years, so this budget simply asks those corporation and those of the highest incomes to kick in a little bit more to make those things happen. >> you know governor malloy though, when he ran. >> oh, radio it. >> you know last year it actually was a long time a go, willie, so we asked him to come on the show and he was busy. >> tried to get himthon morning. >> tried to get him on this morning. >> here's the good news, we got

him on tape. >> oh no stop. >> saying what. >> i know what you are going to do? >> i'm going to let him talk. that's fair. >> that's right. >> i think willie this is the fair thing to do. you let somebody talk. we are obviously concerned about all the taxes up there and automatic businesses that are being destroyed and all the hopes and dreams that are being dashed. so let's let him talk. there is what governor malloy had to say when he was run, for re-election this past fall. >> i don't believe there will be a budget deficit and i pledge there won't be one and i also pledge there will not be a tax increase. that's not a promise i made four years ago. >> but it is a promise, willie that he made last fall. >> okay. >> that's just kind of hard to get around. >> the government's office the state needs to invest in

transportation that will create jobs businesses and move people more quickly to connecticut. so this is not just a burden on the wealthy, a burden on the, kos, it's an investment in the state of connecticut. that's the argument. >> that's the argument. you made the pledge a couple months ago. let's go from connecticut to israel. >> all right. president obama's recent interview with an israeli television station could further strain a chilly reception with benjamin netanyahu. >> it's going to. >> it felt like things were going well. >> yeah you know kind of like the taxes in connecticut. they were bad. let's make it worse. >> a lot of republicans, because he's raising the possibility of allowing the united nations to vote on statehood for the palestinians. president obama says it's hard to ask the palestinians to hold good faith talks if it does not appear israel is doing the same. >> when he spoke right before

the election. he was fairly unequivocal in saying that it wouldn't happen during his prime ministership. as long as he was prime minister, there boone two states. i think subsequently, his statements had suggested that there is the possibility of a palestinian state. but it has so many caveats, so many conditions,er that it is not realistic to think that those conditions would be met any time in the near future. >> right. >> and so the danger here is that israel as a whole loses credibility. >> president obama also insisted that any disagreements he has with his israeli counterparts are fought personal. >> oh yes they are. >> when i'm with bb we have good conversations.

they're off the, we disagree but i enjoy jousting with him. >> do you remember the meeting four years ago here at the white house when he took the time to speak ability some chapters in jewish history your jaws locked. >> oh, no i think i was probably hungry and waiting for lunch. >> aha. >> pretty good. oh come on. >> your jaws locked. come on. >> what? >> nothing. he's still so condescending to the israelis talking about other israeli's reputation be is going to be damaged. whatever. i think they're mohr worried about whether their children get killed by missiles than they are about, you know what luxembourg thinks -- >> i think he was genuine in what he was saying. it may appear feisty. >> on a genuine meter, do you think the president was hungry when he was locking his jaws? >> no, you could see it written on his face. of course not.

it is personal with these two guys. they don't have a good relationship. the question is does their personal relationship impact the relationship between israel and the united states at large? and, obviously, if this is as chilly a relationship and as good a relationship as it's been in a long time. >> i tell you what if the president allows a vote on the united nations on statehood for the palestinian people then that is declared as hostile an act, diplomatic act against israel. it could be because the united nations has been a hotbed of something rivaling anti-semitism across the globe since 1948. we'll see what happens. hey, i do want to thank by the way the speaker of the connecticut house. the advice when you said a battle. we both do battle for not coming on the house speaker, he obviously knew that we weren't in favor of what they're doing. it's nice of him to come on the show. >> that will all come on too.

we'll see what happens. maybe there will be changes. still ahead on "morning joe," joe heilman, eugene robinson join us for our political round table. very interesting polls out this morning. >> by the way, anybody thinking clinton-suburb a lock right now need to look at the washington post poll that came out. it's like remember when we first started the show. >> something interesting is happening. >> eight years ago this was the point we were at in the 2008 campaign. >> yeah. >> and all spring and summer everybody was coming on saying hillary and guiliani were going to win. >> well except me. >> now, you were like hillary is really going to win. >> obama. >> why governor jindal says the biggest lie bill clinton ever told was not about monica lewinsky. he went there, really really cutting criticism of bill clinton. on tomorrow's show we'll talk to senator lindsey graham and on friday rick perry joins the conversation. did you hear what huckabee said about bruce german/caitlin?

it was interesting. we'll look into that. but first, bill kierans joins us with the forecast. bill. >> it's easy to forget how beautiful may was, isn't it? boston hasn't even hit 50 degrees two days in june. that's ridiculous. let's get into the bad weather this morning, we will tell wlou is going to see improving weather. we are watching the rain this morning in areas of the carolinas. this is probably where the worst weather will be. cold front swept through atlanta. to the north of that we still have problems. as far as the rain goes also in nebraska all the way down into kansas this is the only severe storms we've had overnight. there is a chance of hail and damaging winds with these. we are watching you, kansas city in an hour or two, the storms could sweep your way, as far as other problems today, maybe some tornadoes possible, from denver northward, be careful, late this afternoon towards this evening. also watching damage wind possibilities there in kansas and nebraska. about 11 million people will be

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very nice. 22 minutes past the hour. joining us political writer for the "new york times" and washington pulitzer prize and associate editor of the washington post and msnbc political analyst eugene robinson, good to have you all on board. winter may be over. >> not really. >> oh my god, it's not. >> it doesn't feel like it.

>> i wore uggs today, that's winter boots. i had a fire going yesterday. >> really? >> no freezing. it's june! well -- >> mica has impeccable fashion taste, her fashion sense is impeccable. >> i feel are you being sarcastic. >> i'm not. i'm being earnest. >> okay. let's see if this is ernest. republican presidential contenders blocked florida hoping to impress lee scott and other leaders in the 2016 bath battleground state t. forum was at disney world, mostly featured talk about the economy and the record put little contrast between republicans in the race. wisconsin governor scott walker walked bad comments that he might skip the primary there to let them duke it out for their home state. >> the only pause i get was in

deference to two favorite sons in florida, that i thought governor bush and senator rubio certainly would have a competitive advantage over anybody because of their presence as favored sons in this state having won state wide elections. if i were a candidate and would compete anywhere in the primary clock this season we think it's incredibly important in the general election because the next republican president we elect will need votes here in the great state of florida. that's why i mention in my comments, i have been there. >> walker says he has not made a decision about the 2016 race but another republican has. louisiana governor bobby jindal will share his plans on june 24th in new orleans. just after his final legislative session. jindal has been among the most aggressive in the field so far, calling senator rand paul unsuited to be commander-in-chief and making this provocative comment about former president clinton yesterday. >> you know the biggest lie that bill clinton ever told was not about monica lewinsky.

it's when he saidt the era of big government was over. >> all right. that was a little cutting. >> no i don't think it's that bad. it depends on whether the race is on and everything irritates you. i'm just saying hypothetically. >> you sound better. >> i'm saying what. >> you are covering it up? >> you had braces on? >> i took them out. >> i'm not talking about that, i'm talking about other people i don't think it was that cutting of a comment. >> i think it was. then it's blake blase to bring up monica lewinsky. >> it's into the big deal. >> it's his own party on the same stage, he said that everyone on this stage is saying the same thing about texas, taxes and other issues it's this race is framed by obaum and not the candidates themself, i'm agenls him what he's doing, i'm going to change it. >> obamacare.

>> i haven't seen this big new idea or any new ideas at all. however, we can do it differently, what itself the big idea for middle class? >> new polls are showing, by the way, you say it's cutting he brought up monica i was saying he's saying that's not the biggest problem being talked about the era of big government is over. i don't know. >> i would tend to agree with that. i think it's jabby. >> it was a jabby. you didn't need to bring her name up. new polls show republicans would rather have one strong candidate than allow a large film to fight it out, too bad. so far that candidate has not emerged. >> who is that candidate? >> a new c in n-orc poll and walk post abc news poll show emerging tears. >> okay.

all those people you see in that poll are statistically tied john heilman. >> my god! >> yes. >> i guess it's early. >> it's true. >> we now have seen it last week there was a quinnipiac poll that said there were five of them now. there are seven all tied. to me the national polls don't mean as much as the state polls in the early states so you know you are starting to see some more movement in our poll this week that we put out from iowa. you could see scott walker starting to put distance between himself and the rest of the field. that's a little bit more. things are clearer in new hampshire and iowa. look, its big unwieldy undifferentiated yield t. truth is, most of these voters the republicans paying attention to this race don't know that much about most of these candidates that they're talking about. so they know scott walker fought the unions marco rubio is young. we're not really fromle the

debates start, people don't have super clear impressions of these candidates. people are not going to start to put distance between themselves a real front runner will fought emerge. a real front tier is not going to emerge until we get more exposure of voters to those candidates. >> willie. one of jeb's problems is he is seen as a candidate of the past. talking about where candidates are the future. or they represent the past. marco rubio if you can put it up obviously, marco rubio is seen as a guy about the future. vacate% say he is. 34% say jeb bush is . >> that's a factor of age, they are talking weather biggy or tupac is better. >> the answer to that question is obvious, be i the way, biggy. >> right. >> of course. >> but also of course jeb bush we're not just talking about age here jeb bush is associated with the past as far as it's his brother, his father. the argument against him is a

return to the bush years. >> so gene, what are one of these candidates need to do to kind of break out from the pack? what's the message that they can capitalize on? >> the question is like we started with bobby jindal. >> right. >> so where is he on any of those polls just showed? he doesn't even factor you know 2% 3%. i'm wondering when one of teams candidates will literally set his own hair on fire. you hear jindal's rhetoric becomes increasingly incendiary. i guess we will have more and more of that. because they need to attract attention. they need to get people, look at me, look at me i think gin damjindal was leading that in the polls. >> when we come back instead of hair on fire pants on fire is the new york post. >> pantsuit. >> pantsuit. talks about how a new poll shows 57% say that hillary clinton is

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>> joining us now. we'll ask it later. >> blair bryant got his name. >> how? >> he wrestled a bear. so what i ask is going to be a fair question. >> okay. you don't wrestle bears. joining us now we have the former governor of vermillion and head of the national committee howard dean. >> this is my every once a week defense of hillary show? >> do you just plan to do that no matter what? >> absolutely. >> oh. >> apparent new polls show hillary clinton's intangibles headed in the wrong direction. wow! her favorability is falling to the lowest level since twith 28 washington post poll and the lowest since the 2003 cnn-onc poll. >> let's head there first. >> that would be positive if you were a republican rung for

president. most republicans are upsidedown. hillary is upsidedown. not by that much. what's so shocking with hillary is that we all remember it for very long time. a great story. 65%, the most popular politician in america. it really does speak to the brutalizing process that you know so well about running for president. >> oh, that's true. she certainly got more than her share. she will keep getting it until election day. >> is that because she's a clinton or a front runner in the democratic party? >> slows a a front runner. i had an interesting discussion with a bunch of people i met in high school. we were talking about this republicans and democrats, they're saying we need somebody to pull the country together who can do that? i said hillary has a record of working with the other side when she's in the senate. oh, no no no then i pointed out that, in fact, obama came as a unifyer. he got the heck beat out of him. >> bush too he came in as a

unified, everybody talked about he worked so great with his lt. gov. who is a democrat. all of these people come to washington and think think it's going to be different with them. and it just never is. it seems to get worse. >> here's my theory about this. my theory is washington is always a little behind the times. because it's the center of power. they don't get until later. now it's about 15 years behind. i was talking with john about this offline in the green room. i am a little optimistic. the new kid coming up have a much narrower band width. they aren't interested in fighting. they are ignoring the 20% we are fighting over. the problem is they're not interested if politics. they see politics as a throwback institution that isn't effective. eventually they're going to be in politics because we're all going to age out and i think you are seeing that already start. when you see the republicans

running away from going after same sex marriage when you see the republicans cringing when scott walker takes an extreme position on immigration because they know they have to walk it back during the general election. that's a good thing for the country. the right wing is no longer in the senate seat in the republican party t. smart people understand that in order to win elections with a new demographic. >> your demographic. >> it is changing. >> you had me. you started making this all about right wing right wing right wing. there is right wing left wing the democratic party has gotten more liberal through the years. we're talking about the walk democratic party. if you look in the senate it's gone a much more liberal. barak obama's record versus bill clinton's record much more liberal. this is not the party of bill clinton. but to your bicker point, though, let's just dulles agree on that point t. bicker point i agree with you. mica and i see it all the time we go out and give speechls. we give the same ones to democrats, the republicans, the

liberals the conservatives, people agree with each other on 90% of items. >> that's true. >> let's go on the next part of the poll. >> over the last year people's hillary clinton honesty seen a swing in the wrong direction. over the same time period her numbers declined when people ask whether she cares about voters like you. still clinton sits comfortably atop the polls meeting the next candidate by more than 40 points. but in both polls, she is down. other candidates bernie sanders appear to be climbing. >> gene robinson in your washington post poll that we were talking about last night in prepping for the show hillary's trust worthy numbers are down significantly. but she's also pretty tight with republicans for the first time most republicans are within striking dance of her. what's going on with trustwore

trust worthy numbers minus 20? >> she's out there as a front runner. she will get beat up from all side basically, including from within the party as bernie sanders noted and mark o'malley runs tail have their constituencys. they won't beat her. but they'll have their constituencys. she'll get beat up. people were saying she needs competition, challenged to be honed into shape for a general election. so she'll get some of that. but i don't think it's a threat to her and she's still atop republicans. jeb bush comes closer in the poll. but he's got his own problems in the party. >> so but nick, a lot of candidates run for office. a lot of candidates don't lose 20 percentage points in two month on whether you are honnist and trust worthy.

another -- honest and trust worthy. another poll was that hillary clinton's support among women 50 years or younger she's down into the 40s now. that's in two months. this isn't normal wear and tear. >> probably not. >> more rough and tumble of being a candidate for president. it's issues about e-mails, about trust worthiness her time at state the benghazi investigation. there has been so much people have been talking about. it's bound to take a toll. i do think it refutes the complacency of the inner circle in the clinton campaign when they were saying a few weeks ago, ha we are clear of this we haven't been hit. ha ha. it has hurt her a bit. >> you can't argue, the e-mails the state department. all that stuff. also when you look at the head-to-head matchups in that same c in n pom hillary clinton with tied with rubio, rand palm and scott walker.

she very well may be the next president of the united states. anyone who thinks this will be a coronation and a run away is terribly mistaken. >> what does she do where she doesn't get the romney problem, negativeles set in. >> you can't kick them. >> out of this elitist cold hearted elitist guy. the numbers stay down david axelrod said they stuck. we got him early in march. and that reputation stays with him. what does hillary do to shake out of that? >> i actually think she keeps doing what she is doing believe it or not. when she went out and announced, first of all sheis talking about the things she always cared about, early childhood and also income and equality. i thought it was smart. some form of that will be the biggest issue in the campaign. >> if her numbers keep dropping she needs to change. >> the reason her numbers are proping is the republicans haven't started really hammering each other yet. that's going to happen. all the focus is on hillary

clinton. it's what they're talking about. she's the front runner, when are you the front runner you get the heck beat out of you. >> your numbers didn't drop 20 points. >> there is a difference. everybody knows hillary clinton. >> her trust worthy numbers are down 77%. something like 30 35. >> right. eventually what is going to happen is the focus will begin when the campaign really heats up on the republican side. marco rubio, nobody -- >> here's a trust worthy number that's higher. >> here's the provincial. as compared to who? that's what the problem is. this is not a referendum on whether hillary clinton gets to be a president or not. there is no who on the other side yet. they're about to pick their who. >> that will be a really bloody process. >> howard dean thank you.

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>> 46 past the hour. yesterday the senate passed the usa freedoming a the first overhaul since the 9-11 attacks. the select committee on intelligence democratic congressman adam schiff of california. also with us u.s. diplomatic correspondent for the financial

times, geoff dyer. >> we want to start with you, we want to start with the patriot act. there is a headline in the "new york times" that can't be ignored and i'd love for you guys to talk about it. more evidence apparently that assad's forces are actually aiding isis and using some are saying that assad's warplanes are being used as isis' air force. what can you tell us about that? and if that's the case what should we do? what can we do? >> well joe, it wouldn't surprise me at all. i think certainly early in this war in syria, assad wanted to make a self-fulfilling prophecy that it was either him or the terrorists. so, yeah he would go after the moderate opposition. he knew the threat of his leadership were the mod rifts. not the jihadis. so he would bomb them attack them, direct most of his military power against the moderates and isis frankly knew the same thing. they had this unspoken post bargain were isis would go after

the moderate opposition as well knowing that was a real threat to him. they would essentially agree to fight each other later. so it wouldn't surprise me at all if assad continues to focus his air power not on isis that gives legitimacy, rather continually on that moderate ap situation. >> jeff dyer there are so many more allies in the middle east that don't want to get involved from this fight against isis because they don't want to aid assad. was barak obama right so long ago? will there not be peace in this region until assad is gone? >> well, that's the impossible issue. because the issue we would like to see is a managed transition where assad is persuaded to step down. one of the real fears if his regime wants to collapse there will be a vacuum rushing to that to fill the gap. i think even more unstable dangerous situation. so just having assad go tomorrow

is absolutely not necessarily the solution that assad would want to see. >> congressman, it's willie guy. i know it's a complicated question if you could put it in a nutshell what the united states strategy is to fight isis inside syria, what would you say? >> well, you know first for a moment sitting on assad, i think we are starting to see an opening here where there are cracks in the regime where russia is starting to see the writing on the wall that assad can no longer be expected to persist as the rule of a unified syria. iran may be reaching that conclusion too. >> that opens the window to that kind of a managed transition away from assad. assad is not an indispensable party for any of the regional powers. they want a government not a threat to them. so there may be opportunities here. in terms of what options we have apart from pursue tag kind of diplomatic exit for assad, it's very hard. you know i think we continue to have to degrade aseiss while we

take take isis in iraq. i think it dictates we defeat isis in iraq first. >> congressman, is the country safer or a little less safe since the reforms are being passed? >> well i think the country is probably as safe. basically, we have done to lot, at the same time better protecting and respecteding the privacy rights of the american people t. only change in terms of national security. we will preserve the ability to get this data the telephone companies will hold onto it. we can go to them with court process. the only impact is it will be a bit less efficient. i think we have to act knowledge. that it's more efficient if the government were to gather this data and harm news it. frankly, if efficiency was the sole criteria we wouldn't have a fourth amendment.

it will always business a balance. this broadly supported compromise i think really hits the sweet spot in terms of both. >> jeff dyer. i guess the question that critics of this legislation would have is why do you make these changes if there is not any example of anybody's privacy rights being violated? >> well at the same time the defenders of this program couldn't actually come up with examples that prevented a terrorist attack. it seems to me the back story to all this the intelligence committee has known it will have to lose some of its capabilities. i think some are quite happy to make a tactical retreat on this particular program. not only is it controversy it has generated a lot of opposition and made people concerned about tear privacy. also it seems to be the least effective bits of the very very broad under surveillance capabilities the u.s. has. >> all right.

congressman adam schiff and geoff dyer thank you very much. >> thank you, we appreciate it. coming up sock ter most talked about sport on the planet. less about goals, more about greed. roger bennett weighs in on the stunning resignation of fifa boss sepp blatter. >> how can you compare this to ve day? >> really? >> if you like manager meltdowns, if you like manager meltdowns. >> it's trivial. >> i love manager meltdowns. >> really do you like having them? >> i did have them. it was unfortunately in little league. >> we have one for you. keep it right here on "morning joe." superpower. surprised? in fact, america is now the world's number one natural gas producer... and we could soon become number one in oil. because hydraulic fracturing technology is safely recovering lots more oil and natural gas. supporting millions of new jobs. billions in tax revenue... and a new century of american energy security.

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all right. if case you couldn't stay up until 2:00 in the morning to watch the west coast extra inning game between the yankees and mariners. a good old fashioned manager meltdown yesterday in seattle a. rod walking on ball four after sitting on a full count in the top of the third. mariners don't like the call thinking rodriguez should have swung out. the catcher is arguing with the 1st base umpire. he gets run, now the good stuff. seattle manager lloyd mcclendon races out of the dugout and just goes nuts. he's ejected but gets his money's worth, visits each

member of the umpire crew to voice his frustration. there you go work the diamond, lloyd, there it goes. he eventually did leave. that was his 31st career ejection. so tip of the cap to you, lloyd. he got all four basings covered. by the way the yankee the upstart the underdog the little engine that could the yankees win the game 5-3 in 11 innings. >> the little engine that could. >> can you believe what they're doing up in the bronx. >> working with almost no resources. >> yeah. >> the whole world odds stacked against them. no money, no fan base no national recognition. >> how many times have they been written off? >> just you know. >> i think it's scrappy. >> ask this question. where do we find such men? >> hundreds of millions. >> actually. >> scrappy and bedraggled. >> you actually find them in stalls. >> don't do that.

>> shooting out. >> coming up at the top of the hour lindsey graham. >> a. rod. >> his time table for when the u.s. will leave the middle east. never. that's his answer. never. at least he's honest. chuck todd and jeff greenefield. >> we are still in korea. you -- >> i actually don't think there was -- i don't think his comments were that far off given the reality. but said that they're still fun. >> okay. >> one man is dead. another arrested in what officials say may have been an isis inspired plot to kill police in boston. >> more possible suspects. keep et right here on "morning joe." y itself. it needs to be earned... every day... .

i thank you that you accepted me that for the next four years i will be in command of this boat called fihave a and we will bring it back. i like my job and i like to be with you. i'm not perfect. nobody's perfect. but we will do a good job together. i am sure. i thank you. for the trust and confidence trust and confidence together we go let's go fifa! let's go fifa! thank you. thank you so much. >> willie when i see that speech my mind harkens through the decades, i can think of one

other speech. >> today, today, today. >> i'm thinking to myself. >> the luckiest man. >> see, exactly. >> tee it up. >> there is no parallel. >> no one is perfect. >> welcome back to "morning joe." look who's here. >> elected. >> roger is here. >> yeah sepp blatter out. >> roger bennett. >> can we talk to lee greenwood, please proud to be an american while we are talking about it. >> a great day to be an american. to me, it's a great day to be called high american. since history crews, america gets to the fight. a little bit late. they always emerge victorious. this is the case let's listen to lee greenwood. >> proud to be an american. ♪ where at least i know i'm free ♪ >> your country has been kicking

dictators since 1776. another case. i don't know. that's a long road jake. >> it's amazing. >> america's history, it may not contain too many histories. >> more proof that jesus loves the united states of america. from just saying. we're talking about america. >> there you go, right there. >> that's a part of it too. >> yes, it is. >> a big old part of it. >> it's one of the biggest trophies of all. >> why is it the rest of the world knew this is the most corrupt place on the planet? it is. >> he's involved in it. but why do the european countries never do this? >> we try. >> we try. >> what do you mean try. >> >> impoverished. they have us reeling. the honest truth is usa did it in a week with the fbi, the doj,

and the irs probably most frightening of all. they id the it in a week what england have been trying for decades. >> why couldn't you do it? >> because fifa land is not a democracy. fifa land is built like a political machine. when everthe british media would investigate as they often did, sepp blatter would hold up the newspaper and rally its base in africa asia central america, saying these racists are trying to hold you back. he's never met a photo like the fbi the doj. as i met clues, four days ago, showing the footage. this man i a him the president of everybody. he said in his scary voice, four days later, he is shuffling on to stage like junior soprano after being died i am the president of nobody. this is egregious, honestly, think of me as a european from a soft per specty this is an

egenerale egregiousgy. have you given. >> roger, is it because of in the united states we really are kind of luke warm on soccer? we are not a dedicated soccer nation like everybody else. that's why we can go after fifa in a way other countries couldn't? >> that might be the part of it. the honest truth, gene when the fbi comes at you, the irs comes at you, the bid of evidence they have amassed. also critically gone this is very, very important. it's not just the legal noose tightening around sepp blatter. for the past week the front page of the "new york times," every nightly news was talking about budweiser, visa coca-cola, mcdonald's in that term linking them to the 1,200 deaths in qatar to the world cup

in 2002. ultimately sepp blatter would have phoned up the heads of every major corporation, do you stand by me? oh, we might stand by you a little more if you thought about taking a long vacation. i think this legal pressure political pressure. the only language fifa understand, gone is money. >> christine brennan the great sports writer writes in the usa today, sepp platter knew he had no know why else would sepp blatter resign on tuesday, four days after he was rei elected to a perfect term altruism? to allow fifa to start anew in the midst of a scandal, entrenched officials do not leave these all encompassing leadership positions, after blaert was reelected friday he was interviewed by a swiss television station saying quote, why would i step down? that would mean i did wrong. four days later, enough said.

>> roger, how much of this goes back to awarding qatar the 2022 games? >> i think that was even for people who weren't soccer fans that red flag went up and said qatar, where it's 137 degrees in the day in the middle of summer. >> even the producers look at the world cup going down in qatar a. country smaller than a population less than new mexico. swris investigators are looking at that now. they're looking at the 2018 bid, russia 2022 will utd be overturned? >> highly unlikely t. journalist will have to cover 2018 probably russia the russia world cub. >> putin has said. >> that's settled. >> there has never been a world cup in eastern europe. so that even makes sense even if it was corrupt. 2022. >> that is the next step. we are waiting to see exactly

what the fbi have on that. swiss investigators. that's a huge world that's about to open up. please god, world cup usa 2022. i want to make sure blatter is gone. fifa is still an incredibly corrupt body. it's 209 people who had the wisdom to vote blatter in on friday. the fact that he is gnl gone does not mean every decision will be clinical ethical and moral driven. they talk about transparency it makes jack nicholson's china town look like a good well run organization. >> on that note thank you so much. catch them at 10:00 p.m. on nbc sports network. >> we feed a calvin coolidge. that's what fifa needs. >> what's that? >> a calvin coolidge. >> that's what it needs? >> i was kind of hoping. could i rejoin eisenhower's

words in 1944? >> please. >> in united determination and unshakeable fate in the cause we fight we will with god's help go forward to our greatest victory. is there a tear in your eye? >> absolutely. >> i love america. >> to move on now. thank you, roger, take care. fascinating story, actually. new polls show by a slim margin republicans would rather have one strong candidate than allow a large field to fight it out. so far that, candidate has yet to emerge. what's it going to take? a new cnn-orc poll show emerging tears at least . >> it's unbelievable to keep an eye on which candidates voters believe represent the past or the future.

marco is 4 ahead. seen as the candidate of the future. the clinton campaign has to be concernedant. jeb bush however, overwhelming associated with the past. let's bring it right now, national correspondent phil mattingly. thank you so much for being with us. a couple take away first of all, five republicans, six republicans, seven republicans in a statistical dead heat from the top. secondly, jeb bush, a lot of bad numbers, i just wonder if people are still trying to associate jeb bush with his brother george and if when jeb finally launches his campaign we're not financial to see a reversal from a lot of those numbers. >> i think the expectations were so high with jeb bush the way he came out of the gate right now, what is happening is almost what you would have expected with a field that big, with top tier candidates, the number of them actually there. the expectations are set so high it looks like jeb is disappointing. some numbers relate to jeb bush

and the registered poll that we just released today. 57% of likely iowa republican talk u caucus goers would actually be good with george w. bush being a topped a terror is jeb bush. the numbers, you look at the cnn approval numbers on george w. bush that have come out as well. it's starting to look as if that's not as huge a liability initially. this is something people will need the track. >> the family name may be affecting jeb bush. half the people surveyed said being the son and brother of a former president makes them less likely to vote for him. when asked the same question in 1999, 42% said they were more likely to vote for bush 43 and people in the new poll are evenly split on whether he's a lot like his brother. in '99, a lot thought the elder and his son were a lot alike. >> these two polls aren't in conflict. you can like george bush's policies and george h. bush's

policies, you can say as barbara bush said, three that's just too many bushes at the white house t. first, the 33rd and the 45th all coming from the same immediate family. that's a big, big leap for the american people and certainly for the republicans who want to shake things up and win. we lost five out of the last six presidential elections in the popular vote. >> if he proves to not be able to withstand he being jeb bush big competition, fierce competition in these early states it's been said on this show early times, if he can't win one of the first four finish in the top two, he'll be done, whether people think he's the old, the new the future or the past. the fact of the matter is republicans believe he can win jeb bush. you said this on the show. we talked about this. he will be the nominee. if they believe marco rubio is able to not only be a dominant figure but a convincing and someone who can inspire foreign

policy he will be the nominee. i don't buy the notion that they think the families are as martin o'malley said they are passing something back and forth. if hillary clinton and jeb bush have people benefit including this nsa vote in the congress if people realize big things have to be managed. they want big smart managers. hillary clinton and jeb bush represent that. rubio is able to show he will be able to do that. he will be the nominee. >> it was interesting to hear on sunday, bob schieffer put this question to him. he opened up a little more than i seen, people want me to denounce my brother. i'm not going to do that. he's my brother. but i have very different views on the issues. i have different views on the world. he is trying to distinguish himself from his brother without

throwing him under the bus. >> i think they have to get strong at doing na strong at separating themselves from the issues affecting americans and the things they need to say to show they will stand up to whatever they need to stand up to. hillary saying my brother is wrong, dead wrong, he should be able to say. >> again i can understand. i thought his answer was a great answer. i thought it was great. hillary has two challenges. she has to physical out how she distinguishes from her husband and a third term for an obama campaign. i support her, these are the two challenges she faces. i think democrats are coming to her for many of the reasons we talked about here. she's big, she'shallenges and hiccups in the campaign we believe the best person able to manage in a spliktd and messy world. >> i'm trying to get there. i want to see the answers and that strength. >> that pair of new polls that hillary clinton's intangibles are headed in the wrong

direction. her favorability is falling to the liest level since 28 in the nbc washington post poll and the lowest since 2003 in the cnn-orc poll. over the last year people's opinion of her honesty has seen a more than 20-point spring in the wrong direction. over this same time period her numbers have declined when people are asked whether she cares about voters like you. still clinton sits comfortably leading the next candidate by 40 points. gene robinson a lot of numbers that may not be too troubling to the clinton campaigns. somebody in there is worried that her approval ratings are as slow as 2003 and her hon effort

and trust worthy numbers have been brutal in a series of polls this week t. drop continues, howard dean said we don't need to do anything. stay the course. boy, that's not how campaigns think when you are bleeding support like this. i wonder what they're thinking in the clinton campaign. what's the next move? >> well they're certainly going to pay attention to those numbers. i think the two that if i were running a campaign, i'd be most concerned about, you know people like me do you work for people like me. i think that's a problem if people are starting to see her as this great big rich lady as opposed to somebody who cares about the concerns of the middle class. i think they need to work on that. and then you know the favorability numbers, you know they aren't that bad, frankly. but the honesty numbers i think

should be concerning and they need to work on that. >> very concerning and joe you just asked genes what's her next move? i would say her next move is saturday in this big event in the park. >> yes. >> what can she do to move the meter beyond what she's done already? what she's said already? >> she has talk issues she started the talk issues. but at some point, she can't be horrified of putting a microphone up standing in front of it and answering everybody's questions and until she does that. >> i know. >> this campaign doesn't really fill officially start. she can do all she wants to do. as long as she is running scared. she is running scared from the press him until she can stand in front of that microphone and answer those questions, these questions everybody will have will continue to loom over her. >> we have talked about this before their campaign does not feel like she needs to be out there talking to microphones the

numbers are fine. with the official launch the big, eb take notice the second launch i guess, the do-over, now it starts. now it's for real i'm actually more interested with the numbers after saturday. after the big launch after she starts the official campaign. >> that will show everybody's gotten a bounce will she get a bounce, too, or is this a trajectory we will continue to see? >> same questions about jeb, jeb will make an announcement sometime. >> is he in. >> i think he is going to. >> one more. >> maybe. >> maybe. >> one more story to get to. an oregon law maker is strongly defending the state employee facing prosecution for exposing alleged wrong-doing by former governor. >> this is an amazing story. it really is. >> in february state representative newt bowler is also pushing a bill to prohibit retaliation against public employee whistle blowers in february.

rogers refused to delete thousands of e-mails as the governor was investigated for. >> let's tell people one second so this is the governor who was accused of abusing his office because his fiance the first lady so to speak of oregon was and both of them may have been using the office improperly. so the governor's office goes to this state employee and demands that he deletes all the e-mails. all of them. he refuses to do it. >> okay. >> and so what he did is. >> was this. >> he got it. he actually released the e-mails instead as a whistleblower. they put him on paid leave saying he could face misconduct charges for each e-mail that he turned over for people to see, but the governor demanded that he delete. >> take a look. >> he must have pinned himself

from the very government that he served loyally and sought to protect. colleagues michael rogers is not an oregon criminal. rogers is an oregon he. >> reporter: he deserves our respect. our support. not the burden of mounting legal bills. >> so the current government who took over in transparency was run from office for corruption said it doesn't seem to be the public's interest to prosecute rogers, ultimately it will be left to prosecutors. yet this guy is twisting in the wind because he would fought delete the e-mails of a corrupt governor who has driven from office. >> wouldn't that be against the law to do that? >> it would. it probably would. it's incredible. i don't know what the heck is going on in oregon or connect. state rights let the state run

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>> how do you get out? >> we will dpefr get out. >> you are still in japan. >> i was going to see, you believe we have to manage it? >> i the we have to be involved in the middle east mill taefrl political, economically. if you are not, you are making a huge mistake if we left no matter what happens? >> i don't see this ending in my lifetime. i don't see us being able to

disengage from the middle east. >> columnist nor the daily beast jeff greenefield, good to have you on set. >> people who have been born lived a full life and died with american troops in japan. with american troops in germany, with american troops in korea. >> that may be i mean lindsey graham could go around and even though it makes a lot of us flinch lindsey graham could make that arguments growing more concerned of isis. it could take hold all you need is 11% to win the primary voters. >> that's aggression out. when you ask them their ration ail for running, i think i can per side with a group of republican voters on national security issues on getting

things done in walk being a compromiseer, being somebody that can work with the other side. i tell you, i think that's a tough sell. i understand the argument he's making, but the argument can fall apart. because american troops in germany have never had to engage t. american troops in japan haven't been engaging in the fight. the person troops in korea, they don't really have to they're more on alert than any other place. they're not engaging. this is sort of a whole different. it's still a different thing you have to sell the person public. >> it is. unfortunately, jeff some would suggest a different thing. we so mishandled it. we didn't have macarthur in japan, in iraq in 2003 and when we finally had stability in '09, '08, bill kins came on and said he didn't recognize it because it was so stable.

we certainly lost that advantage like we lost the advantage of 9-11 by going into iraq in the first place. >> you can definitely make that argument. wilkins was arguing an argument politically, which we never should have gone in or pulled out shortly? >> the fundamental issue still is i think this is a hangover from at least vietnam maybe back to korea. the committing of american ground troops to combat in the wake of what we have seen certainly in vietnam and iraq is incredibly different sale than we have to do with isis. that's really easy. by the way, shall we take your sons and now daughter and put them in that killing field? >> right. >> john mccain might say yes. lindsey graham may say yes. i think you have a lot of people

who say i don't want to commit. >> most americans would say no. >> half of the republican party said it wasn't worth it. this is not about democrats versus republicans, there is an across the board fatigue on it. >> part of the problem is we haven't been presented. watching iraq or syria or anywhere in between some people come around. maybe a small stabilizing force. 14 years now since 9-11. >> to defeat isis. >> you still have a syria problem. not a small problem. a huge problem. isis is more of a priority problem now. i think the public understands

they're much smarter than they give them credit for. it's not just isis. >> there will be something else. >> we all saw what george h.w. bush did in 1990 1991 putting together an extraordinary, extraordinary group of countries to go help us out. is barak -- it always seems to be an all or nothing. we can go in there and with 50,000 troops or will sit back and follow a libertarians approach to it. isn't that middle ground what is missing, a commander in chief that is able to work with other countries and physical out how to use the united nations, physical out how to use the arab leak, physical out how to use all of our allies and put together not a diplomating solution alone with targeted troops? >> let me suggest something that will be even more irresponsible

than i sometimes am. i think the problem with that is it aseouls a certain sense of understandable from a western point of view, a rational notion of how this works. it is possible that we are in a situation where there are no good guys. we don't know who to align with. the history of this the ''80s aligning with iraq because we thought iraq was the enemy. then we thought it might be a common cause with iran because al qaeda was the enemy. now it turns out iran was supporting not only shiites but sunnis to bring maximum destruction. what i'm getting at is there are times that an american political physical should say, you know what we never get there right. we don't know what the heck we are doing. it always ends in disaster. maybe we should say, listen fellas we will probability the state of israel. other than that, we're backing

out. because we don't the territory. we have positions of power that quite liberally did not understand the difference between shias and sunnis. that's almost the original sin that we are clueless about. >> we certainly understand cluck, what happens when we do nothing and we have seen we have seen over owe we have royaled the place. we have royaled the place, you can keep talking about that all you want to we find ourselves in the position where we find ourselves. we did nothing in syria. the president drew one red line after another. 200,000 dead. a moderate opposition completely at that time tattered. we see what's happened when we do nothing in iraq. i'm on three hours a day. i wasn't beating the war drums.

i'm not john mccain. >> quite the on. >> i told you you should go in. i didn't say that. we find ourselves in a position. we're sitting back and doing nothing. >> i hear you. i think a lot of people are with you. but there is that sort of colin powell putter. we broke it. we made this decision. so do we have a sense of responsibility? look if we go down the road of the original sin are the bricks and french. >> that's true. >> after world war i. the 100th anniversary of the shot heard around the world. it's actually the more we spend too much time teaching this country and world war i and the impact on this country. we ought to relearn world war i and the impact on the modern east today. >> that said i think there is this we're never going to walk away because of this sensibility

america has. we broke that. we can't just walk away t. thing is what do you do? >> again dexter bilikins would suggest, we broke it fixed it and xroek e broke it again. >> known we fixed it. >> you talked to reporters there from 28 2009 2010 they will tell you there was stability. >> when it was america's 51st state. >> when it was marketable. we would take that right now over isis running through the country. >> maybe it says responsibility. above that, there is a sense of national security. you have a real threat of isis and another group now a. different group from al qaeda that we'd like to visit our shores and visit terrorism. i don't think it's we feel bad we did this we should do something. now we are confronting a real threat. what do you do about that? do you commit more troops to that? what's the strategy? i think there is not a clear strategy. >> added to that the changes over the patriot act. joining us now, democratic

congressman xavier bu cera from california. good to have you on the show. >> thank you. >> how does our security look now? >> it's still an open question. i think most people are relieved we haven't placed the under surveillance laws that let us hopefully constitutionally seek the information that lets us ghats the intelligence we need. for those of us who believe firmly the constitution has been a document that's worked well over 200 years. we have as to watch. at some point we could cross that line again. we would be in danger of making the constitution a piece of paper. we have as to watch, be vigilant at all times. >> congressman, what did the law -- explain how a telecon company is mandated to do what the government have you now asked them to do. explain why verizon, tee mobile sprint, has to do this. >> i think there is an open

question, if they must do that. the problem was, of course they were being forced to do things that essentially violated our privacy around they were able to do so and get away with it because they were given government protection for violating our constitutional right. at this stage, we are now the government is now saying to these companies, we expect you to maintain this data in the event we should at sol point need it and you better follow us when we say there, so whether the company does is still an open question. it's better than having a situation where the company was without warrant providing data on our personal lives to the government without a warrant. >> congressman, to your knowledge, over the past several years, can you know of any concrete terrorist act that was prevented because we have collected this kind of data?

>> and jeff i think most people would have to say firstly, no i i don't have that type of information that can prove at the same time i'm not going to condemn the atempts of our government. remember our government is we the people are trying to secure our we the people's security and protections and privacy and all the rest. so i think we are trying to live in that pros period of time. part of that requires us to do real intense survafls. can i tell you any setting or forum whether opened or classified information that proves that some of this aggressive collection of data translated into capturing terrorists on the move to hurt us? no at the same time there are definitely people trying to do us harm. >> congressman becerra, great to see you.

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were at this man's hand. in pursuing this world cup that's going to be in qatar, there were dozens of workers who died building the stadia in the middle of the desert t. coiffeurs were raided to build thesery lick lus stadium in the middle of brazil. there was around $250 million in tax paid by fifa that they wiggled their way out of in the last world cup. that's to say nothing of the way in which fifa has turned a blind eye to human trafficking, match fixing, just generally cultivated a culture in the game that was toxic and just couldn't be more corrupt. >> so we're going to mark down -- >> i'm glad it's like too soon to say. >> frank, it's willie. if all this corruption inside fifa and corruption under sepp blatter was so obvious to so

many people. obviously, we've heard about it for years, why did it take so long to get to this moment why did it take loretta lynch and the justice department to bring sepp blatter to justice? >> that's the way the corrupt systems work historically. this is a world historic corrupt system. given the way it extended the globe, it included all these major multinational corporations like i have sars mcdonald's that were sponsors of fifa. but you look at all of the politicians, you look at all of the media, we were all, i mean we were all i don't consider myself, there was this massive amount of policity. that's the way that corruption works. it's kind of tolerated and accepted as the norm until one day it's not.

sepp is gone. there are indictments out. this case goes on. what will it take to clean up fifa beyond the removal of sepp blatter. >> if i could work that metaphor that i began with initially. communism falls and everybody's kind of wildly optimistic the next day about how things are going to get better and then you leap forward a generation and there's still not liberal democratic societies in a lot of those places that were formally

communist and i think that there are good reasons to be fairly pessimistic about the future of the game. i mean the rot in the corruption extends so deep. so, yeah, a lot of these big fish are going to get caught. but then there are all these federations all around the world that still are corrupt. so i looked at the people who are going to come to potentially replace sepp balloter and i don't see anyone coming in from the outside with the authority to clean it up. >> we will see. frank foer thank you very much. still ahead, nothing personal, just business. president obama speaks out about his relationship with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu telling israeli tv he enjoys jousting with bibi. >> and while i was chucking he said "we're going to let the united nations vote on palestinian statehood." >> that story and much more when "morning joe" comes right back.

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>> there's a big story of fifa check this out. >> the fifa president sepp blatter announcing he's resigning only four days after he was reelected. >> yeah. now sepp blatter will go back to sounding like a disease you look up on webmd. [ laughter ] thank god, i thought i had sepp blatter. the 79-year-old fifa president sepp blatter announced he is resigning less than a week after the organization was rocked by a corruption scandal so if you

only learn one thing from all this, you can never trust a 79-year-old blatter. [ applause ] he's not a gate basketball player, but he's a good dribbler. [ rim shot ] [ rim shot ] he's european. [ laughter ] [ rim shot ] >> wow. >> well he stepped down at least, four days after he was reelected president. >> willie, a good dribbler. >> talk about arrogance. >> remember sepp blatter said "i shall not step down, to do so would be an admission of guilt." >> willie, this guy, well known, pig, when john terry had an affair with a teammate's wife blatter was the guy that said you know there's good news in that, too, when he goads toes to latin

america they will give him a standing ovation because they respect that sort of behavior there. there was a time racism was rampant across fifa and they wanted to have all of these sensitivity clinics and he said you know, racism can be cured by a hand shake on the field. then there was that wonderful moment when fifa was doing its draw for the 2014 world cup, nelson mandela died the day before and somebody got up and announced a moment of silence for mandela and blatter started talking 11 seconds later. started getting hissed and booed. he's a very self-important man who is now, i suspect, on the way to jail. >> his arrogance caught up to him at this point. but you think about how many soccer fans and people around the game know this open secret, that fifa is totally corrupt. there have been long pieces written about it and essay's given on tv.

now it took loretta lynch, the united states attorney general to shine the light and pull back the curtain. >> usa, usa. >> and as we've said many times i think qatar was a bridge too far. that was the one where we said wait a minute -- >> that was a tad bit over the top. >> and, again, you have bill clinton, eric holder over there, the u.s. attorney general over there. they should have realized when they did something that was so openly corrupt, bill clinton immediately -- you know they -- i think they came back and started talking about it and loretta lynch -- >> we waited a long time for loretta lynch. >> doing a great job. developing news overnight in massachusetts, a man was arrested in an ongoing terrorism investigation in boston and could face charges as soon as today. just hours earlier, authorities shot and killed a man who they say was under 24 hour surveillance. officers say they opened fire after they approached usaama rahim and he lunged at them with a knife. nbc's pete williams has more on

the investigation. >> reporter: officials tell nbc news they were concerned rahim had become radicalized by isis-inspired social media and was actively considering an attack on police officers in boston within the next few days in a city still traumatized by the terrorist bombings at the 2013 boston marathon. although they had no warrant for his arrest, they say they wanted to question him, fearing he was preparing to take action soon. >> obviously there was enough information there that we thought it was appropriate to question him about his doings. >> reporter: his brother, a former boston-area imam said the family is grieving but wrote on facebook that rahim was shot in the back three times while talking to his father on the phone saying "i can't breathe." but police say he was shot twice in the abdomen and torso, not in the back. police and federal agents search rad hemo's roslindale home another address in the boston suburbs. they're investigating whether rahim was in touch with others

who might have been radicalized by isis-inspired propaganda. a midnight deadline has connecticut democrats scrambling. we were talking about this yesterday, the hartford courant reports the statehouse democratic leaders worried by grim warnings from some of connecticut's biggest corporations worked yesterday on trying to scale back their budget's business tax plan. the current proposal replaces it with higher cigarette taxes. i've heard of this before in connecticut. a 50 cent per pack increase. >> wow. >> okay. this is where everyone goes to the indian reservation, cross state lines to buy their cigarettes. this after a fourth major employer joined three others in complaining about a corporate tax hike in the state's budget plan. ge travelers and boeing voiced opposition to the plan that funds governor dannel malloy's spending increases on

transportation. so with the deadline looming, "morning joe" went to the state capital and talked to the lawmakers and hear's what they heard from the opposition. >> so the unitary tax is something these corporations are focusing on in this budget. tell me about that. >> sure. the unitary tax is a requirement that everyone company has to follow to report all of their income -- revenue and income from the entire united states of america and depending on how far they take it it may include foreign operations as well. now that's a scary thing to many corporations because the tax is often times missed a ministered and they end up owing more tax to the state of connecticut than they honestly owe the state of connecticut. it's a big proposed change for them and i don't blame them for being nervous about it at all. >> there was a gallup poll in 2013 2014 that said 49% of connecticut residents polled would leave the state if they could afford to.

does that shock you? >> i think if you ask them now, there'd be a majority. >> the problem is people can only take so much. so i'm shocked that these companies haven't come out sooner than this because they have been in addition to budget and taxes, etc. it's bad policies, it's bad policies like paid sick leave and different things that are taking the businesses in the state of connecticut and just telling them "just get out. requests they might as well tell them "get out." >> well they're talking about getting out. this is a national story because it talks about what happens when you keep raising and raising and raising taxes and you don't take care of pensions and retirement plans and that number again, you worked there -- >> this has been a battle for years. >> but everybody wanted to move to connecticut 20 years ago. it was a great state, great education great jobs tax haven. now nobody wants to move there

other than people like me and business wise and 50% of the people surveyed in a recent poll said if they had a chance they would move out but they can't afford to move out of the state because nobody will buy their houses because nobody but me is moving into the state. that's a terrible situation. and i don't know. srchlts well louis also got inside the connecticut house speaker's office and got reaction. >> how did they let anymore there, willie? >> just roving around. he got reaction from one of the state's most powerful democrats. >> this budget provides relief for a number of -- in a number of places in the state, property tax relief for working families first but also makes major investments in our transportation system which the governor announced earlier this year. these are things the corporate community has been calling for for decades, really. major investment which is in

our transportation system which has gone undone in the last several years. so this budget simply asks those corporations and those of the highest incoming to kick in a little bit more to make those things happen. >> you know, governor malloy though when he ran -- >> oh, right. >> last year? it was -- actually it was a long time ago, willie so we asked him to come on the show and he was busy. >> tried to get him on this morning. >> tried to get him on this morning. but here's the good news we got him on tape -- >> no stop. >> well what? >> well i know what you're gonna do. >> i'm gonna let him talk. that's fair. i think, willie this is the fair thing to do. you let somebody talk. we're obviously very concerned about all the taxes up there and all the businesses that are being destroyed and all the hopes and dreams that are being dashed. so let's let him talk. this is what governor malloy had to say when he was running for reelection this past fall.

>> i don't believe there will be a budget deficit and i pledge that there won't be one. i've also pledge there had will not be a tax increase. that's not a promise i made four years ago. >> but it is a promise, willie, that he made last fall. >> okay. >> that's hard -- you know, that's just kind of hard to get around. the governor's argument and the one you just heard from the democrat there that louis talked to when he got into his office is that the state needs to invest in transportation and that will in turn create jobs and help businesses and move people easier and more quickly through connecticut. and so that this is not just a burden on the wealthy and a burden on the corporations but it's an investment in the state of connecticut. that's the argument. >> that's the argument. he made the pledge a couple months ago. anyway let's go from connecticut to israel. >> all right. president obama piece recent interview with an israeli television station could further strain an already chilly reception with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu.

>> it's going to. >> well it's not like things were going well. >> but it's kind of like the taxes in connecticut. they were bad enough. let's make it worse. >> thanks to a lot of republicans. that's because he's raising the possibility of allowing the united nations to vote on statehood for the palestinians. president obama says it's hard to ask the palestinians to hold good faith talks if it does not appear that israel is doing the same. >> when he spoke right before the election he was fairly unequivocal in saying that it wouldn't happen during his prime ministership. as long as he was prime minister there wouldn't be two states. i think subsequently his statements have suggested that there is the possibility of a palestinian state, but it has so many caveats, so many conditions

that it is not realistic to think those conditions would be met any time in the near future. so the danger here is that israel as a whole loses credibility. >> president obama also insisted that any disagreements he has with his israeli counterpart are not personal. >> oh, yes, they are. >> when i'm with bibiwe have good conversations. they're tough, they're forceful we disagree but i enjoy jousting with him. >> do you remember the meeting four years ago here at the white house when he took the time to speak about some chapters in jewish history, i could see your jaw locked. >> oh, no i think i was probably just hungry and waiting for lunch. [ laughter ] >> uh-huh. >> he's pretty good. >> yeah come on. >> what? >> nothing, i mean it's just -- he's still so condescending to the israelis talking about how

the israelis' reputation is going to be damaged. whatever. i think they're more worried about whether their churn get killed by missiles than they are about -- you know what luxembourg thinks. >> i think the president was genuine. >> come on? on the genuine meter do you think the president really was hungry when he was locking his jaws. >> no, you could see it written on his face. it is personal with these two guy s guys. they don't a good relationship. the question is does their personal relationship impact the relationship between israel and the united states at large? obviously this is as chilly a relationship and a good relationship as it's been in a long time. >> i tell you what if the president allows a vote in the united nations on statehood for the palestinian people, that is declared as hostile an act, diplomatic act against israel

as there can be. the united nations has been a hotbed of something rivaling on aunt semitism from across the globe since 1948. we'll see what happens. i want to thank, by the way, the speaker of the connecticut house. very nice about -- he spoked dannel for not coming on. but the house speaker, he obviously knew that we warrant in favor of what they were doing. it it was nice of him to come on the show. >> hopefully dannel will come on the show. maybe there will be changes. still ahead on "morning joe," if humans are so evolved -- and we're assuming they're evolved here -- why do we keep screwing with dinosaur genetics? >> why do we do that, willie? willie and i were watching the mets a couple nights ago at home and he went out, he has this -- like this kit and -- you know, that you get at radio shack and it's dinosaur jeanette i can and we played around with it what -- >> was that from radio shack?

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joining us now, managing editor of bloomberg politics john heilemannile heilemann -- hielman, nick confessore and eugene robinson. good to have you all on board. you know winter may be over -- >> not really. >> oh my god, it's not. >> it doesn't feel like it. >> i wore u.s.ggs today. like winter boots. >> really? >> she wears uggs when she goes to the beach in her bikini. >> mika has impeccable fashion taste. her fashion sense is impeccable. >> impeccable. it's impeccable. >> i feel you're being sarcastic. >> i'm not. i'm been earnest. >> well let's see if this is

earnest. republican presidential contenders flocked to florida hoping to impress governor rick scott and other leaders in the 2016 battleground state. the forum was at disneyworld, mostly featured talk about the economy and candidates' records with little contrast between other republicans in the race but wisconsin governor scott walker walked back comments he might skip the republican primary there to let former governor jeb bush and senator marco rubio duke it out for their home state. >> the only i plauz i gave was in deference to two favorite sons in florida that i thought governor bush and senator rubio will have a competitive advantage because of their presence as favorite sons in this state having won statewide elections. if i were a candidate and i would compete anywhere in the primary and caucus season, we think it's incredibly important for florida primary or not in the general election because the next republican president will need the to have votes in the great state of florida.

it's what i mentioned in my comments. i've been here. >> walker says he has not made a decision about the 2016 race but another republican has. louisiana governor bobby jindal will share his plans on june 24 in new orleans just after his final legislative session. jindal has been among the most aggressive in the field so far calling senator rand paul unsuited to be commander-in-chief and making this provocative comment about former president clinton yesterday. >> you know, the biggest lie that bill clinton ever told was not about monica lewinsky. it's when he said that the era of big government was over. >> all right. >> well, that was a little cutting. >> i don't know. i don't think it was that bad. it depends on whether your brace is on and everything irritates you. >> i think i sound better. >> you have braces on? >> why did you bring it up? >> i didn't know you had braces on. >> i took them out. >> i'm not talking about you,

i'm talking about other people hielman, but i don't think it was that cut of a comment. >> i think it was. okay then it's just blase to bring up monica lewinsky? >> well, on the same stage he said everyone on the stage is saying the same things about taxes, isis other issues. it's striking to the degree in which this race so far is framed by obama and not the ideas of the candidates themselves. i'm against him, i'm against what he's doing. but we haven't seen these new ideas at all. how with regoing to do it differently. what's the big idea for the middle-class. >> new polls are showing -- by the way, you say it's cutting that he brought up monica. i was just saying -- he was saying that's not the biggest problem then he talked about the era of big government is over.

i don't know. >> i think you tend to agree with that but i think it's jab bi. >> that was jabby. >> i think it was jabby. you didn't need to bring her name up. new polls show by a slim margin republicans would rather have one strong candidate rather than allow a large field to fight it out. but too bad. that candidate has not emerged. >> who is that candidate? >> a new cnn/orc and "washington post"/abc news poll show emerging tiers. some combination of marco rubio, jeb bush scott walker mike huckabee and rand paul are at the top with ben carson and ted cruz within striking distance and in the "washington post" poll the top seven candidates are just three percentage points apart which means all those people you see in that poll are statisticallysistically tied. >> my god. i guess it's early. >> we've not seen it like last weekend there was a quinnipiac pole that said there's five of them. to me the national polls don't

mean as much as the state polls in the early states. so you're seeing more movement in our poll this week that we put out from iowa. you can see scott walker putting distance between himself and the rest of the field that's more -- things are clearer in new hampshire and iowa. but it's a big unwieldy undifferentiated field. most of these voters even the republicans paying attention to this race don't know that much about those of these candidates they're talking about so they know scott walker fought unions, marco rubio is young. until debates start people don't super clear impressions of these candidates. people won't start to put distance themselves. a real front-runner won't emerge or a real top tier is not going to emerge until we get more exposure of voters to those candidates. >> willie, one of jeb's problems is he's seen as a candidate of the past. the "washington post" poll talking about which candidates are the future or represent the

past. marco rubio obviously is seen as a guy that is about the future 58% say he is. only 34% say jeb bush. that. >> that's a factor of age, marco rubio is young. it's little things he drops on the campaign trail like talking about whether biggie or tupac was better. >> the answer to that question is obvious, by the way. >> biggie. >> of course. >> we're not just talking about age but jeb bush is associated with the past as far as it's his brother. the argument against him is a return to the bush years. >> and he's on team tupac. >> so what do one of these candidates need to do to break out from the pack? what's the message? >> we started with bobby jindal. sos where he on any of those polls? he doesn't even factor 2% 3%. i'm wondering when one of these candidates will literally set

his own hair on fire. [ laughter ] . you hear jindal's rhetoric becomes increasingly incendiary. i guess we'll hear more and more of that because they need to attract attention and get people -- you know look at me look at me. i think jindal is leading the pack in that. coming up, what's driving the day on wall street. cnbc's sara eisen has business before the bell. and former fdic chair sheila bear is here with her new book. why her economic message is aimed at a decidedly younger audience. plus -- >> somebody talk to me! what is happening? [ bleep ]. >> the dinosaurs are back from the new summer blockbuster "jurassic world." actress bryce dallas howard is here with a preview. she's so nice. keep it right here on "morning joe." pick up the limited edition metallic droid turbo

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joining us now, the new president of washington college and the former chair of the fdic, sheila bear. she's the author of the new book "the bullies of wall street this is how greed messed up our economy." great to have you back on the show. >> thank you happy to be here. >> congratulations on the book and the job and thank you for being at know your value in

washington. >> wouldn't have missed it. >> i'll put you in an awkward position, which is always fun. what candidate do you think would be best to take on -- of the lot we're looking at on both sides of the aisle, to take on the bullies of wall street. is there one? >> i don't think i can answer that yet. on both sides there's been no detail or specificity on how they would give us a more stable financial system and a repeat of 2008. >> what would we need to hear? >> i'd like concrete proposals on bank capital. i personally think it's broadly recognized that banks were too heavily reliant on debt prior to the crisis. there's been a bit of an improvement but not much. consumer protection liquidity, too big to fail. there are a lot of issues where it would be nice for them to spell out specifics and also what kind of people will they be appointing to these regulatory positions? are they going to have a balance of people like me versus people who worked on wall street or are we going to continue with the -- >> what do you think happens if

hillary clinton and jeb bush win the nominations and one of those two are the president. are you skeptical they'll bring in outsiders? >> well john. i'm keeping an open mind. neither one of them has said much about it. with hillary clinton i worry that they will default to the same team mr. clinton had that mr. on has relied on. they're fine people but they have a very wall street-centric view of the world. >> are you concerned that barack obama has appointed too many holdovers, wall street holdovers from the clinton administration. >> absolutely. you need a balance. >> how does that keep happening? >> i don't know. i don't know. >> it's amazing to me after this terrible crisis we had that they didn't bring in more people who have a greater degree of separation from wall street. it's not just wall street. it's citigroup. if you have one of those things on your resume -- >> is that why too big to fail has gotten bigger? >> i think it's one of the reasons why we haven't had more

profound changes, really the reforms have been incremental, they've been directionally right, the system is a little safer but we have too big to fail. we have too much leverage we still have too much risk taking we still have -- >> everything. >> eye-popping behavior with manipulation. >> eye popping. >> fun fact, i covered you when you were the chairman of the fdic. >> yes you did. >> which was always a good time. >> always a good time. hanging at fdic. party central. >> bank regulation with the fdic is where it's at. it was really interesting. you dealt with congress. i'm interested. senator elizabeth warren, you guys are often put together that the two people that are most forceful. she sent a scathing letter to mary jo white criticizing her work there what do you think about her tactics and how she deals with regulators some of whom you clashed with many times behind the scenes.

>> well you never know what may have gone on behind the scenes before these public statements. it may be there's been a frustration level that she's tried behind the scenes and hasn't gotten anywhere. i can relate to that. when i was chair of the fdic getting more robust majors to preserve homeownership and modify loans, for months i tried do the inside game and couldn't. that's when i went public. so we don't know what's going on behind the scenes on that. i think she's doing what she thinks is right i will say in mary jo white's defense, i think s.e.c. is hard to run. i do. there have been issues there, morale issues motivational issues and that's a problem that needs better attention. if president obama were here at this table right now we how would saying back that dodd-frank was one of his great achievements. he would say incredible reform

and part of his legacy. it seems to me like what you're saying is dodd-frank is tinkering at the margins. >> it's not just dodd-frank it's the way it's implemented. dodd-frank was a grant of authority to regulators to get this problem fixed and there were some -- as the couple thousand pages but there's broad discretion and heavy reliance on regulators to write the rules to implement it. so they have worked hard at this. but it's 2015. we haven't even finalized higher capital requirements for the largest financial institutions. if there's anything anybody agrees on, these guys were too reliant on big money. >> i want to hear who the bullies are and why. but you said -- we started this interview asking about who you'd support as a leader for this and you haven't heard anything. . you talked about positions people could hold within an administration to take on this problem. is elizabeth warren, what everyone seems to think, too far

left on this or are her views representative of someone we need in a position of power? >> i think you need balance in the debate. for too long -- there's too big and there's too big to fail and these large institutions have gotten too big. people are afraid people are intimidated, the fact that she will speak out and put pressure on the other side pushing regulators to do more, not less they have plenty of pressure to back off, to leave the financial institutions alone soy think she's performing an extremely valuable function. whether you agree or disagree at least she has the courage to say it not many others are doing so: you also talk about entitlement reform in your book. why? >> because i think this is another legacy of the crisis. i think there are a couple of problems. one is our growing national debt which those chickens are going to come home to roost. and we kick the can down the road on the social security and medicare trust funds. it's crazy. if we started doing something now, we could accumulate savings

over time to avoid a shock in about 15 years. but we're not. we're kicking the can down the road so there will be tremendous short falls in both trust funds and kids today working then will be having to pay much higher payroll taxes or retirees are going to have to take benefit cuts. my guess is the kids are the ones that will get whack sod they need to be educated and informed and mobilized when they become voting adults. >> how depressing, the more things change the more they stay the same. >> exactly. >> you used an expression kicking the can down the road that barack obama used at the 2009 fiscal responsibility summit where he said "if we don't take care of entitlements --" 2009 six years ago " -- they're going to be bankrupted." and we've done nothing. >> we've done nothing.

and if you have 15 years accumulating in savings you can ease the shock. that's what they did in the '80s when i worked in the senate. nobody wants to take short term political pain. >> with this book discussion as the backdrop, let's check in with cnbc's sara eisen at the new york stock exchange. sara what's going to be moving the markets today? >> we got good news when it comes to the economy. pickup in hiring at least from the private sector. adp releasing the report showing companies adding 201,000 jobs during the month of may. that's a good sign. it was what we were expecting. obviously we'll get a more comprehensive look at the hiring pace in may on friday when the government releases its monthly jobs report. 4.5% is the nation's unemployment rate. we'll see if we make any more progress on that. those numbers out. i know you're talking about can-kicking when it comes to debt. we're watching greece right now because the prime minister of greece is currently in brussels they're doing last-minute

negotiations. it's a little bit of daja view all over again. but greece has a big debt payment coming through for the imf, one of its creditors. we think it can get by but beyond that it will need help in the form of a bailout from its european neighbors and that's why the discussions are going on to make sure greece can agree to these necessary reforms to unlock the bailout money. we've seen it before but it's having an impact overseas. >> cnbc's sara eisen, thank you very much. sheila bair the book is "the bullies of wall street." >> and we need to come down to washington college, do a show there. >> please, come down do a "morning joe" show. it's a beautiful campus you will love it. >> that would be great. tomorrow on "morning joe" as the fifa corruption scandal rocks the world of soccer we'll be joined by the goalkeeper for the u.s. men's national team in the past world cup tim howard

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spiked. >> that was awesome! >> corporate felt genetic modification would up the wow factor. >> they're dinosaurs. wow enough. >> she was designed to be bigger than a t-rex. >> what happened to the sibling? >> she ate it. >> she ate it? >> wow. >> that was a look at the new movie "jurassic world" the latest installment in the "jurassic park" movie series. and joining us now one of the film's star bryce dallas howard. >> what a wonderful name dallas. >> i spilled the beans! >> we'll talk about that later. have fun, ron. dr. >> dr. ruth is in the other studio. >> we can get some help on that. you need some therapy, maybe, after being told that apparently. >> you said you had two hippie parents, what do you expect. let's talk about "jurassic

world." here we are 22 years later and they aren't figuring it out, don't screw around with mother nature. >> we never learn. the hubris of man. >> so what happened here? >> so what's so great about this film is that you know like we just discussed, it's 22 years after the original film and now the park is open. it's a fully operational theme park and there's 20,000 visitors every single day. my character, claire actually manages the park so she is in charge of everything. >> a little more dangerous, than, like, running a ride at disneyworld. >> yes, although i think what is -- i feel very honest about this, the premise of this story is that dinosaurs are no longer a novelty, you snow they have been around now for a while and i have a line in the beginning of the film where i say "nobody's impressed by a dinosaur anymore. it's like an elephant at the zoo." >> so what goes horribly wrong? we've seen the trailers somebody decides they'll experiment in the lab. >> greed goes horribly wrong. >> it's always that isn't it?

>> yes, this park is now a corporate entity and my responsibility first and foremost is the bottom line and so in order to attract more visitors we create a genetically modified dinosaur which is a hybrid dinosaur. basically your worst nightmare. >> that was your first mistake. >> that was my first mistake. >> so the executive producers include steven fellspielberg who started the franchise. you have an interesting cast. tell us about it. >> yes. in the spirit of "jurassic park" there's a wonderful ensemble of actors. chris pratt, judy greer, vincent d din november din november rio. >> and how great is chris pratt? this guy just sort of emerged as a leading man. i took my son to see "guardians

of the galaxy" and there he is at the opening scene. you can tell he can carry a big movie. >> as far as i'm concerned it's chris pratt for president. >> there you go. >> he's an amazing human being. >> have you issued your standard apology yet? have you seen chris pratt's standard apology? >> yes, yes. >> so for people that don't know. chris pratt has gone out and he said, okay i hereby apologize for any stupid and insensitive thing -- and he just was drawing lines, fill in the blanks. >> you should do that! >> i should do that everyday. >> my favorite person is your god dad. >> yes! >> forget your dad. henry winkler is the sweetest guy. >> i love henry winkler. >> he's your godfather? >> yes, my parents were so clever. they were just like if anything happens to us we're going to -- the coolest man on planet lert raise you. >> he is so nice. >> so this was filmed obviously, in pretty nice

locations, hawaii and then an abandoned six flags theme park? >> yes, in new orleans. you know you do a movie like this and 70% of it is dinosaurs and you -- often times you're not looking at anything and the co-writer of this film and the director of "jurassic world" had the good sense to surround us in an environment that was real. so they built the park out of six flags in new orleans and it was a feat. >> so let me ask you. your dad, obviously, started acting at a young age, your dad being, of course, the famous opie cunningham. eddie murphy first called him opie cunningham. did you just grow up around it? i've always heard natalie cole say she just grew up around nat king cole. all these great singers came in and she just thought "i want to do that." did that happen to you? >> they protected us from the industry, from hollywood.

i was raised here on the east coast. but we were always on movie sets. in fact, i loved it so much that whenever i got grounded i was grounded from the set so i behaved. >> that's a good one. >> that's like when your dad was national security advisor you saw -- all the news people and said you want to do that. >> and look what happened to me. a little different. >> from well "jurassic world" hits theaters friday, june 12. bryce dallas howard thank you so much. >> we're excited. >> this looks great. >> we'll be right back. [phone rings] [man] hello,totten designs. sales department? yes...i can put you right through. sales department-this is nate. human resources. technical support. hold please. [announcer]you work hard to grow your business. [man] yes!i can totally do that for you. [announcer]our new online business planning tools will help your business thrive. wells fargo.together we'll go far.

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welcome back to "morning joe." time to talk about what we learned today. mika, what did you learn? >> a whole lot about "the bullies of wall street." sheila bair is headed to washington college and we're going to do a show there. >> just kind of reiterate a point, roger bennett, often comes in late always emerges victorious. >> exactly. >> we always get the bad guy in the end. john heilemann, speaking of which, your days are numbered. what have you learned? >> project from >> roger and frank foer told me we're glad sepp blatter is gone we rejoice, yet fifa is still a mess and will be for a long time. >> the sleazy king is dead. long live the sleazy king. >> the fish rots from the head down. the head has been cut off but the body is still rotten.

>> can we wrap it up? did you learn thing, joe? >> i'm still trying to figure out what that thing is on your lip. on a serious note, we learned president obama is going to help the biden family, the good people of delaware and all of america say good-bye to a great man, a great father great son, great husband, great public servant beau biden. so that does it for us thank you so much for being with us on "morning joe" this morning. stick around because "the rundown" is coming up next. and good morning, i'm jose diaz-balart. first on "the rundown," new details emerging surrounding that deadly shooting in boston where law enforcement opened fire killing a man they say might have been on the verge of launching an isis-inspired attack. officials may release surveillance video of the incident to local clergy and civil rights leaders as early as today. police say they shot 26-year-old usaama abdullah rahim because he

came at them with a large knife. rahim's brother claims police shot rahim in the back. this morning, u.s. attorney general loretta lynch was asked about the incident at an event overseas. >> i'm certainly not able to go into the specifics of that particular case. what i can tell you is that wherever we see evidence of a potential terrorist activity we will take the appropriate law enforcement steps. >> nbc's justice correspondent pete williams has been following this for us. pete, good morning, what do we know? >> jose good morning to you. this city embraced its police after the marathon bombings and now authorities say they've disrupted a plot to attack that police force that may have been provoked by isis-inspired social media. the question this morning is how many others were involved? police and federal agents arrested this man late tuesday in the boston suburb of everett in connection with the