>> yeah baby. >> okay. >> yes. he's back. >> he took the stage yesterday to a rap 2012 cult ford song with new lyrics. >> rick perry is here today. >> in birmingham they love the governor. they're talking about this governor. >> talked a lot about someone i talk a lot about. elizabeth warren. >> she doesn't have actually -- she didn't get the patent on that one. >> she certainly has the background, the message and the actions. i'm not sure why he was saying that -- i can't wait to ask him about it. >> except elizabeth warren wants to cure things the way democrats tried to cure things in connecticut. and the only problem is you destroy businesses. but feel good about yourself. >> i don't think that's the way she wants to do things at all.

>> we just passed the 28th anniversary of your win at the masters. >> we it.tit did. >> it gets lost. >> nicholas wins in '86. and if i didn't like him so much, i'd be -- >> great guy. >> i'd be bummed out. because everybody always remembers '86. you remember '87, right? i'm in the sand and i got to get down, right? nobody thinks i can. i open up the club handle so much. they're whispering. this will never work. and it goes straight up in the air. i had no idea. >> saves par. >> jerry drunk as a skunk like in the bar because he doesn't think i can go it.

>> jark ketcket still fits. >> you know what it is human growth hormones. go right up the street there's a doctor. >> really. is that what it is? >> still looks great. >> doesn't really fit. and i'm happy it doesn't have food on it. i'm not going to complain. >> i'm not going to lie. every time i go down to amen corner, i tear up. how i got this job. >> yeah. >> all right. can i get to the news you idiots? >> seriously. >> in a second mika. in a second. >> you idiots. >> you idiots. that's right. in a second. so willie let me ask you about this. i don't know if it's needed or not. i just don't know if we really need it or not. there may be some people out there who think we did. the fda finally approved female

viagra viagra. is this a good development for america or this something that we should be concerned about? >> if men can have it, why not the women. good it's a good development. >> is it? okay. >> a devilish laugh. >> exactly. evens the playing field. you guys get insurance for that blue pill. it's ridiculous. >> no you don't. >> yes, you do. it's considered like a health issue. >> is it really? you you mean insurance pays for that stuff? >> yes. but not for some really actually legitimate female health needs. you know the issue. you've heard it before. >> some republican candidates are great on this issue. let's talk to them about it. >> i don't know if he ever

talked about female viagra. you're apparently happy about it. so good for you. now here's mika. she's getting revved up and she'll give you the news. >> excuse me, i'm what? >> you're revved up about the female viagra stuff. >> willie is she excited? >> i think it's a good development for america. >> a gr development for america. >> shocking and disturbing, one. largest data breaches ever for the u.s. government. here's what we know right now. up to 4 million current and former federal employees are being told their personal information may be -- may have been stolen. at this hour the fbi says it's investigating how and why the breach occurred but officials say all signs point to hackers from china. politico reports it's not yet clear whether state sponsored hackers are responsible orss acted on their own.

the breach involved the office of personnel management which conducts background checks for security clearances, cyber security experts fear the hackers could block mail or impersonate government employees who have access to classified material. the i don't compromised data could include names, addresses, credit card data banking records, social security numbers also a possibility. lindsey graham says the breach quote, may turn out to be yet another example of america being walked over by rivals and adversaries. obama administration's failures in foreign policy and national security continue to pile up yet they do nothing to change course. i feel a cyber pearl harbor is increasingly more likely if we do not invest in the necessary infrastructure to protect our nation. >> let's get perspective on this, we bringer director with the heritage foundation bouchi.

what was your first concern? >> gosh is my name in that list. which it may very well be. but the main thing is that you got 4 million people who at least 2 million of them who are active federal employees have access potentially to classified systems. and now somebody has all their personal information. that's a problem. >> so steve, what would be the objective of a hack like this? is this national security question, is this for commercial interests? what do you suspect? >> could go either way but i have to tell you, a breach this big even if it's straight up criminals just looking to do identity theft, that's still a national security issue particularly when you look at who the people are whose info they have stolen. >> how do we stop it? >> and how do you put this back in? you can't, right? what's at risk now? >> you can't put it back in. this is not just a credit card

that, okay, throw that one away get a new one. it's social security numbers. great amounts of data. opm has said it's not the whole security clear answer form which has data back to your grammar school when you fill it out. but i'm not sure they know yet everything that was stolen. it's very hard to determine that in these situations. so there is a little more investigation that needs to go on before we even determine the full extent of the damage. >> all right. steve, thank you so much. we appreciate you being with us this morning. big news, rick perry is back in the race. you know what i'm going to say this about rick perry. >> please do. >> i'm serious. i think this is the measure of a great politician and also i think sometimes a good man or woman. some would say i was not extraordinarily nice to rick perry in 2012. i reported. i pounded. he had a very terrible race and

i would say a lot of things people would say of a air. he had a very tough race. he had back problems. i've had back problems. you get on medication, boy, i was doing crazy things on medication. >> was that the medication? >> could have been the medication. and yet the first time i saw him after that race like nothing had happened. and very kind. very -- i grew to really like the guy an awful lot. and it's like bill clinton told me one time when you're governor, or president, you can't have a memory. uyou he didn't say a short memory. he said you can't have a memory. presidents that have memories that carry grudges, they're not as effective as those that can do what bill clinton did during the thints'90peach him one day, he's

golfing with you the next because he needed to pass legislation. trent lott had it too. >> a number of the presidential candidates have proved to have this talent unlike hillary clinton so far. i think that they are out there taking jabs from people taking questions, getting torn at at town hall meetings. and they seem unafraid and ready to go. and it's something i'm looking for on the democratic side especially with the front-runner. i think it will make her better. but not having a memory to an september where you kind of let yourself -- good pose yourself to reporters and people and like them no matter what they have said, whether they disagreed with you or not, you have to be able do that. >> you can get upset, but you have to put it behind you. if somebody is attacking you about politics, even if people slander me on the internet it's

just politics. you put it behind you. you move forward. >> this is the one thing i've seen on your side that i think they're showing. >> stay away from my family i'm fine. everything else is fine. >> we have huge -- bless you. bless you. my gosh. >> that's quite a sneeze donny deutsch. >> is that donny? >> you talk about me while i'm not on the air. female viagra that's my nickname. >> oh, my gosh. can you believe that? >> i did a list of best guests -- >> we'll talk about that. >> and the worst guests. >> worst ever bar nunn. >> well, you didn't really hesitate when asked. >> no. just bleh. one of those things. >> it was right after donny came onset and for some reason talked about having a dream with katty kay in the same bed. all right. let's go to -- >> oh, my gosh. >> let's go to rick perry. >> i'm not comfortable. >> he's going away.

don't worry. he's out of your zone. >> so rick perry is in again. i'm glad he is. he's talked about his humble upbringing in making his bid. >> there is no person on earth more optimistic than a dry land cotton farmer. we always know that a good rain is just around the corner. to those americans who -- those i might add forgotten americans drowning in personal debt working harder for wages that don't keep up with the rising cost of living i came here today to say i hear you. to the one in five children in families who are on food stamps to the one in seven americans living in poverty, to the one in ten workers who are unemployed underemployed, or just given up hope of finding a job, i hear you. you are not forgotten. the american people they see

this game where the insiders get rich, middle class pays the tab. there is something wrong when the dow is near record highs and businesses on main street can't even get a loan. since when did capitalism involve elimination of risk for the biggest banks while regulations strangle our community banks? >> amen. >> it's elizabeth. it's elizabeth. >> elizabeth warren is not the only person that has said this. >> sounds like elizabeth. just saying. >> you thoughe know what elizabeth warren says she likes chocolate cake and now everybody likes chocolate cake. >> i like people who want to address income inequality. i don't know if he means it, but, boy -- >> i've been talking about it for a long time. alan greenspan said four years ago that income inequality was the greatest threat to american capitalism. >> who has done anything about it? who do you think in the republican party can do anything about it? >> are we going to have to listen to you every time

somebody says something about income inequality it's elizabeth warren! it's not all elizabeth warren. >> no it's not, but it does sound like her. doesn't he? why is he doing it? >> because the rich are getting poorer poorer are getting poorer. middle class is getting squeezed. >> and they're finally getting it that this bothers people. what she's been saying for years and years. it's selling now. >> republicans have been saying it. how many times have you heard me say -- >> i've heard you say it. >> rich are getting richer. poor are getting poorer. >> but you're not running for president. >> i'm not the only republican that has been saying that. it is so obvious that as the rich get richer and the poor get poorer income inequality spreads apart, that it is a fundamental risk to this country. >> we're not going to do this next sound bite because i just want to talk about the republicans talking about income inequality. >> one point on perry. you talked about him having to have short memory or no memg

other. memory. he'll have to count on the voters doing the same thing. the impression in 2012 was not a good one. and the other challenge, he talked a lot about the texas miracle with jobs and the economy. and over the last few year, they have lost a lot of jobs in texas, as well. so an uphill climb but he will try to rebrand himself. >> you said that republicans talk about income inequality and you're absolutely right. here is presidential candidate mike huckabee. >> you'll hear a lot over the next couple of years from the liberals. they will tell you that the greatest challenge facing american workers and american families is income inequality. folks, sometimes i think the greatest challenge we face economically is intelligence inequality. >>ing on. what do you think of that, me came mika? mike likes you. >> just saying. >> what? >> no, i got nothing to say.

>> with all of these candidates in here anything can happen. let's say rick loose ahas a good iowa. nothing is possible. mike huckabee same thing could happen. carly fiorina. i mean this is the craziest most wide open list. and we got jeb who is talking about announcing now. i guess amy walters had written something for the politico yesterday that -- what was that headline shall. >> looks more like an underdog than a front-runner. >> i don't know that that's the case. i still think jeb is the american pharoah. there is your quote for the day. jeb is the american pharoah in this field. i wouldn't bet american pharoah against the field and i might not bet jeb against the field, but he's still 3:1 favorite. >> to me a lot of people on one side make jokes about there are

20 republicans in the race. i think that kind of debate is great. it's going to make it difficult for the candidates to break through, but i'd much rather have all these different points of view and arguments than one person on a stage arguing with two other people. >> did you see what general electric did yesterday? so connecticut goes ahead, passes another massive tax increase. and general electric sent out a letter to its employees saying we're going to have to start looking for another state to move to. just devastating to a state that has been last in job creation since 2008. and last in job creation since 2008. and now adding another massive tax. just crippling. and it's a story not just for connecticut voters to pay attention to. it's a story for american voters

to pay attention to as we talk about which direction this country goes in the future because we are competing now not just against the eu and not just against chi naks but thechina, but the entire world. what we're learning in connecticut we need to learn across the country. we'll talk about that men wewhen we come back pup. >> coming up former governor rick perry will be here in the studio. plus hillary clinton goes there. calling out four potential republican rivals by name for, quote, a crusade against voting rights. we'll dig in to what she said later with eugene robinson and amy holmes. but first bill karins. >> weekend finally shaping up nice but we did have tornados, large hail colorado was the focus. and overnight flooding in kansas. these are the pictures that came uts off the colorado area yesterday. they had some hailstones that were close to baseball size. in and around denver. you can see the damage that was

done there from the high winds. cars flipped, top of that house just taken off. so there was some damage. thankfully we didn't have any injuries. look at the size of that tornado. and that's where you want it in the open fields. looks like some telephone repair work needs to be done, but that's about it. take a look at the forecast. kansas city, rain for you. flooding is the problem this morning. as we look towards today, not too much bad weather. a little warmer in d.c. today, 77. hot from texas to oklahoma. but at least you're still dry. if we're going to have really bad weather this weekend, likely on saturday. watch out nebraska and iowa. potential some severe weather maybe even a tornado or two. notice how warm we get around the country. we're starting to really look like sumner a lot of spots. of course one of the bigger events on saturday will take place here in new york the belmont stakes. 74 degrees. post time at 6:50 p.m. coverage there on nbc. and the other thing we're watching is the chance of severe

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welcome back to "morning joe." done donny deutsch is with us with the tightest pants i've ever seen. oh gosh. >> women wear tight capris and it's cute. >> my nickname the last hour,

women feeing a gra. something more important. new york observer a big interview. background, favorite -- big paragraph. there was one question who was your worst guest. one line. donny deutsch. >> and yet here you are. >> well, i like you. >> thank you. i'm only here because of joe. >> i'm overruled on this one obviously. let's take a look at the morning papers. >> but at least you made up for it with very tight pants. >> thank you for noticing. >> let's go to the bbc, shall we? >> are you able to breathe in those? >> yeah, can you breathe? >> bbc, fifa confirmed thursday that it paid ireland soccer association more than $7 million in 2009 not to protest or pursue legal action over an infamous missed call by a referee in a

world cup qualifying game. the illegal hand ball set up a winning goal that prevented the irish national team from playing in the 2010 world cup. henri later admitted but fifa never took action to rectify the mistake. there was a contentious meeting in the direct after math and four days later, a deal for the secret payment was signed. unbelievable. >> wonder where that $7 million went and the fans just finding out now. you'll hear one story after another after another. you're going to hear a lot of stories about games that were actually mixed i think. this will be terrible top on bottom. a former fbi agent has been indicted for alledgedly stealing over $100,000 this seized drug money. and spending it on plas tigtic surgery, cars and weekend in vegas.

>> you just described donny deutsch's memorial day weekend. >> the indictment claims scott bowman also used some of the money seized while executing search warrants to pay for plastic surgery for his wife. >> well, do thatnny's case his 28-year-old girl friend. >> he was an agent 2005 until this year. walter thomas can officially check drive a car through a garage door on purpose off his bucket list. he fulfilled a life long dream with help from his family. >> wait. >> check it out. >> well, hit the gas, bang went through the door. >> one, two, three!

>> i think it's in the category of the demolition derby. it was thrilling to get to do it after all these years. which i never thought would ever happen. i don't know what i could do to top it. getting too old to top anything. just live life to the extreme. >> that's living. >> to each his own, but what is that about? >> that's great. >> come on, man. >> awesome. >> just fun. >> every morning he pulls out, he has to wait for the door to open. >> the door is gone. i love that. >> i don't get that. >> he's the johnny knoxville. >> mark, lighten up. >> you never like blew stuff up in the backyard? >> that, i get. >> vegas, plastic surgery for the weekend?

>> you really do bring the show to a screeching halt. first of all, we've been talking about oregon the whistleblower in oregon ordered him to destroy the e-mail he refused to do it. he released them to the press. they were talking about prosecuting him. we talked about it on the show i think a couple days ago. they have dropped all charges. so here-here. >> good. >> we didn't have quite the impact wanted to have in connecticut. the legislature passed this massive new tax law. they were talking about it and the debate went late into the night. but you know, general electric had actually said it would make the company rethink its historic home base of connecticut if they passed yet another massive tax increase after promising not to pass another massive tax increase. and now general lk is doing just

that. in an e-mail to its employees yesterday, ceo jeff immelt wrote that he's assembled an exploratory team to check out the company's options to move to a state with a more pro business environment. and unfortunately for connecticut, there are about 49 states that have a more pro business environment than the nutmeg state. e-mail said potential impact on employees would be one of the considerations. and this is just bad business. i mean these new taxes on businesses, first of all they came after a massive new tax increase was passed a couple years ago which is why governor dan malloy made this pledge just a couple months ago. >> i don't believe there will be a budget deficit and i pledge that there won't be one and i've also pledged that there will not be a tax increase. that's not a promise i made four years ago. >> and then the governor practicemade

this promise a month later. >> let me be clear there will not be a deficit nor a tax mc. i never took a pledge not to raise taxes the last time. >> this is insane. and donny, listen to these numbers. a few points on my home state of connecticut. it's one of only four states that lost population last year. it was the last in job creation last year. it's been dead last in job creation since 2008. and time and time again, it's been selected as one of the least business friendly states. with the worst business tax policies. steve rattner came on yesterday and he talked about the impact that that had. he talked about the most and the least tax friendly states. and it's remarkable it's not just reenlggion al. new hampshire doesn't have an income tax and it's made all the

difference in the world. and donny, you've set up and sold businesses worth hundreds of millions of dollars. and this is just basic math. it's not about being a republican or democrat liberal or conservative. it's about being smart or being backward looking. and you'll remember there was a day when connecticut was a state businesses rushed to. it was a tax haven. people said i'm going to set up my business in connecticut so i don't have to deal with new york or new jersey's taxes. it's now become just as bad. >> as you said it's a common sense issue. general electric, you talk about look up in the dictionary u.s. corporation, and you come up with general electric. it gets to the point with jeff immelt who is one of the best ceos popular, also. >> and by the way, he loves connecticut. he loves this state. >> so this is not some dot com

company. this is not a guy that is going i'm going to incorporate in dublin ireland. this guy lays within theplays within the lines. >> jeff raised his family in connecticut. there is no state in the country he'd rather be in. >> i don't care whether you're a democrat or republican. you cannot fundamentally air rit arithmetically have a situation where you're forcing businesses to leave. this governor won't get reelected. you cannot run on that. >> and there have been so many businesses that have been fleeing the state since lowell weicker in 1991 started it with an income tax. >> and a state that has extraordinary advantages and rye sources this terms of the people and the location. and the history. and just being squandered because they have not been able to put policies in place in a actually enurge people to come

into the state. >> it has some of the best colleges and some of the most educated people in the world. and yet, willie i know you've matt the drive up new england like i have, like mika -- mika knows connecticut better than anybody here. but one shuttered factory after another after another. it's been a devastating 20 years. and instead of turning things around like carol campbell did in south carolina in the 1980s, we get this. more taxes. >> something's got to give here. jeff immelt says corporate taxes have been raised five times since 2011 and he says they can't bear that anymore. 5700 employees for ge inside the state of connect consult. you connecticut. you wonder what happens to those people. i would call this a bluff except the tax has already passed.

these are the beating heart of the economy in the state of connecticut. >> mika they're going to have to go to ge and aetna and travelers and all these companies and say, listen we're going to hold a special session. >> a lot of companies that have held connecticut together for decades. >> they have to call a special session and come back on these taxes that will cost thousands and thousands of jobs to the state. coming up, we'll talk about this are more, but we'll go live to bell month park where american pharoah will look to make history tomorrow as the first triple crown winner in 37 years. but first, eugene robinson and amy holmes join the conversation. keep it right here.

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37 past the hour. joining us amy holmes and eugene robinson. good to have you both on board this morning. after months of being the focus of republican candidates hillary clinton is now on the offense. in a speech at texas southern university yesterday clinton called out her rivals on the issue of voting rights. >> here in texas, former governor rick perry signed a law that a federal court said was

actually written with the purpose of discriminating against minority voters. he applaud the when the voting rights act was gutted and said lost protections were outdated and unnecessary. but governor perry is hardly alone in his crew side against voting rights. in wisconsin, governor scott walker cut back early voting an signed legislation that would make it harder for college students to vote. in new jersey, governor chris christie vetoed legislation to extend early voting. and in florida when jeb bush was governor, state authorities conducted a deeply flawed purge of voters before the presidential election in 2000. today republicans are systemically trying to stop

millions of american citizens from voting. what part of democracy are they afraid of? i believe every citizen has the right to vote and i believe we should do everything we can to make it easier for every citizen to vote. >> mark halperin what's the strategy here? >> one of the best days of her presidential campaign so far. it's an issue she believes in, in-spires democrats and the media is almost entirely sympathetic to her point of view and going after the republicans by name on an issue where she's very well breached inspires a lot of supporters to say she's fighting. they want to see her fighting rather than in a defensive position. >> amy, a republican systemically trying to stop black people from voting? >> well, in point of fact voting in 2012 was actually higher than it was among white voters. >> i don't understand. i heard for years leading up to the '08 and '12 election that republicans were trying to

systemically stop black people from voting. >> i don't doubt that you heard that. but in 2012 ended up at least statistically not being the case in terms of voter turnout. there have actually been problems when it comes to latino voters, however. la he tee know voters being kicked off the rolls in florida. so there is a real issue here. and of course parties are trying to advantage their own party. but when it comes to the black vote republicans don't really have that much incentive since african american voters vote 90% for democrats. >> gene i know you're excited as was i that voting among blacks inblack s in 2008 and 2012 skyrocketed. this was very good for america. >> it was great. but the reason you heard republicans were trying to suppress that vote it was year. they tried, they just doesn't suck didn't succeed this doing it. if you add up the republican-led efforts across the country to restrict the franchise, you

know, it didn't work. that's a good thing. one hopes in the long run it won't work with latino. but we know the demographic split between the two parties. and republican officials acknowledged that this would help them win pennsylvania, for example. which it didn't. >> i was asked the question yesterday as to whether or not this was a good issue for her to pick given there are so many others i want to hear her talk about. having said that i think this is really smart. i think it taps into something that has been brewing for years and is a debate that takes on her rivals. amy, would you argue this is not an issue? >> i would argue that it is very smart to hillary particularly in a democratic primary. >> but do you think it's an issue, the topic? >> getting people out to vote is an issue, and unfairness in terms of voting rules and who can vote, of course. that's why it's illegal to

discrimination. >> but the question i would ask, win you hear people for four years jump up and down and scream and trumpet this because we all know what it's really about, it's to scare people into going out and voting. >> and it's worked. >> it's too hard to vote in this country. >> it's too har tod to vote in this country? explain. >> you work when the polls are open in some states it's hard to vote. there is no early voting or absentee voting. it's not a holiday. and voter participation rates are too low. >> and, joe, minority voters spent an additional 30 minutes to line up to vote than white voters in the last election. now, they endured that longer wait but that's because there aren't enough voting places there aren't enough machines. and those deficiencies tend to be concentrated in minority communities. >> and i think everybody would oppose long lines at the voting booth for people to be able to

vote. we all want to be available. but when you just point to low voter turnout, for example, if you look at it globally places where you have really high voter turnout are the places where the election of the president can radically change the political direction of the country. one political theory about why we have lower voter turnout is about a people don't really think it will change their life that much. >> so i got -- i think i was on the phone with you when this came across. i just noticed something here. there was a news bulletin that came across my phone, i think it was from the "washington post" or "wall street journal," that the epa said that fracking does not in fact impact drinking water quality right? now, i'm just looking across here and i see, what is this new york "post." it's on page five. >> four. >> help me out here. do we see this? because "new york times" has written so many articles with fracking.

you had think that the epa coming out and saying -- >> maybe it's in the business session. >> hold on. it's not the on page one. because if they had said that fracking did impact drinking water, it would be like all over the -- so it's not on page one. >> viagra for women. >> so they have viagra for women on page two, but not this fracking story which they have talked about for years. >> good thing this is a three hour show. it will take you a while to find it. >> willie have you seen it? four, five. >> don't see it yet. >> six, seven. i don't see it. >> can't find it in the "wall street journal," either. >> there it is. >> a-5 in the journal. >> got to be the business section. >> in the "new york times" -- we'll be back. i'll keep looking through the "new york times." >> you deflect so badly. >> this issue that is so extraordinarily important to the

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fracking in the future, we'll have it in the science section instead of page one. >> all right. joining us now may i move on? >> go ahead. >> you've made your point and deflected from voter's rights. i love it. the mayor of denver is here and you have quite an economic boom going on. >> it's even buried in the post. >> i love this. >> he woke up very early to come here, joe. >> well, introduce him. >> very good to have you on board here. you have one of the fastest growing urban cities in the u.s. and what do you thinks reason behind it is? what is it that you've done, mr. mayor? take all the credit. >> marijuana. >> no, no. i would like to think first of all the economic boom or at least the growth that is occurring is due to our millennial generation moving to

denver. unpress unprecedented rates. >> again, going back to marijuana? >> i think it's innovation, entrepreneurism. the active lifestyle, vibrant downtown. like attraction attracts likeness. young people want to be with young people. >> businesses coming? >> joe we grew by 2200 businesses in denver in the last four years. >> we've been talking about business climate being bad in connecticut. why is it so good in colorado? >> the city of denver and other surrounding metropolitan cities work hard to make sure that our tax regulation an friendly environment exists. it's important to make sure companies want to come here. >> 2200 businesses. what size? >> small and medium. >> and that's what you've netted. >> that's what we've netted. i'm here in new york because i was meeting with the board of directors with panasonic. they announced a new division

opening up in denver. enterprise solution sflrcenter. 300 new employees coming to denver. this is the kind of innovation that is drawing people to our city. >> we have a lot of mayors watch this show trying to recover from the manufacturing era. what is your advice to them what do you say that you have done right is this. >> regulatory environment is important. you have must elected officials friendly and interested in businesses. you must be able to attract the workforce and continue to drive and focus on quality education. one of the first things businesses and leaders ask me, tell me about your educational system. and we have not been perfect in denver, but we've worked very hard to improve it and we are improving and that's an exciting part. >> mr. mayor, thank you so much. that's great news. >> thank you. >> let's do a show in denver. can we come out there. >> i would love for you to do a

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♪ there is no person on earth more optimistic than a dry land cot the ton farmer. we always know that a good rain is just around the corner. >> welcome back to "morning joe." mark halperin, donny deutsch and eugene robinson all still with us. we have a lot to get to. rick perry is in. he's coming in here. >> anybody going to the belmont this weekend? >> are you ready? >> never been. i think this is the year. i think he will do it. people in the horse racing industry tell me he has the best.

>> i went maybe ten years ago, thip nine years ago. a lot of fun. >> scarborough loves the ponies. >> yes, he does. all right. yesterday rick perry said he's ready to try again talking about his humble upbringing and income inequality. >> to those americans who -- i might add for gotten americans drowning in personal debt working harder for wages that don't keep up with the rising cost of living i came here today to say i hear you. to the one in five children in families who are on food stamps, to the one this accept americans living in poverty, to the one in ten workers unemployed

underemployed or given up hope, i hear you. the american people see this game where the insiders get rich, middle class pays the tab. there is something wrong when the dow is near record highs and businesses on main street complaint even get a loan. since when did capitalism involve elimination of risk for the biggest banks while regulations strangle our community banks. >> i think that's a strong message, donny deutsch. >> yeah. what is interesting, it's a very interesting way to spin a populist republican message in effect. when he first came on the scene four years ago, he was appealing. he had the right look and that famous flub in the debate and i think that will continue to hurt him.

>> can voters change their mind? new coke doesn't work you go back. >> i think the important thing is he has to also maukke fun of that moment. >> which he does. >> he does it in real time. we played a sound bite yesterday where he came out immediately afterwards in the spin room and made fun of himself for for getting that. so that's one thing he's very good at. and i don't think he should be held completely accountable and judged based on one moment. >> you got 20 candidates in this by the end. does rick perry have a shot? >> i think perry, huckabee and cruz are the two most underrated. i think he is -- you take away what happened four years ago, not a small thing. and he is a formidable candidate for this party. just is. >> as far as pure campaigners go, you mentioned a couple guys. huckabee and rick perry who are

probably as good a campaigner as anybody. >> and the other thing is he's working harder -- or as hard as anybody in the field. and he's also a guy who has run before. and in this party, people who run previously usually do pretty well. big question is fundraising. they say they will have enough money to do this but he'll have to raise and he's competing in texas for money where his base -- >> but there is a lot of oil money. >> clear channel was always his big backer. >> he's competing with ted cruz. jeb bush is raising money there. >> jeb is going to announce. >> i think the biggest question in the whole thing is can he spend $100 million plus to get people to know him. it's crazy how little people know about him and his record. but so far he's not burning that in. and he'll have to generate

enthusiasm. >> i think the fact that we were just talking about this off camera, the fact that he's laying in the weeds and everybody saying he doesn't have traction, i think he's timing it. if he comes out with a bag of heat gives a great introduction speech next monday you will see a big pop. i still believe he'll be our next president. >> speeches are not his strong suit. that's the problem. >> let's get to another candidate. foreign policy seems to be a stumbling block for florida senator marco rubio again. conflicting statements on the decision on go to war in iraq was a headache for the presidential candidate last month. and yesterday rubio seemed to attempt to suggest we need more u.s. support for iraq without using a particular term. >> the most immediate responsibility we have is to help them build a functional government that can meet the needs in short and long term and then from that, you would hone -- >> that sounds like nation

building. >> it's not nation building. we're assisting them in building their nation. >> i don't want to say it's his lack of experience. i put obama and him at the same time visually how they come across. to me obama with the same lack of experience presented more graph takes. i see more boy every time he comes on. visually. it's not the resume. it's just somehow he does not -- he seems so young. >> i tell you what i you saw him speak actually last night at an event. and the crowd was very excited. and the contrast between hillary clinton and marco rubio is so jolting that i think that his youth could actually end up being a big benefit for him. he obviously has, mark halperin has to get past some hurdles, but if you ask hillary's team who they're the most concerned about, it would be the two guys

from florida. and if marco finds his footing, and starts playing error-free ball, i would think that would be a political nightmare for the clinton camp. >> i take donny's point about the visual for some people. but part of jeb bush's problem to go back to jeb bush is rubio is now filling the void for a lot of establishment people who just don't think another bush is the right face for the party. they're impressed with marco rubio. and money people political people, even some people supporting jeb bush look at marco rubio right now and say this guy might be a better bet for us. >> so i stepped in it when i used the term yourobinson to donny's point, is there something to be said about lack of experience? how do i say it? >> well, i think donny makes a good point about how rubio comes across now. one challenge for him will be to grow into a bit more gravitas

and start coming off as young. however he's a really smart guy. i don't see how he gets himself tangled up this let's help build a nation but don't call it nation building kind of cross talk. he seems to have a tendency to get himself in those uncomfortable positions. and i don't think he can afford to keep doing that. i think people will start to lose confidence. but right now you know, you've got to say he has to like where he is given where he started. >> absolutely. i'm surprised. >> so i'm watching him give this speech last night. and one of the things -- we've all heard about his father and we've heard that for years. and so the crowd heard it and they were respectful, but we've heard the story. one of the biggest applause lines actually came when he said

i don't have a trust fund. my parents weren't wealthy. he said my dad -- my mom and dad had so little money that i had to pay my own way through college. and one of the biggest applause lines was and i just finished paying off my college loan, $100,000 in college loans. and everybody started applauding. and he said, yeah that's how i felt. but i sat the there listening to it and thinking what a great contrast from a democrat who is worth $200 million. or going to be worth $200 million fairly soon. and this crowd immediately could relate to him because, you know he had trouble paying off his mortgage. he still says my mortgage takes up a huge chunk of my salary. >> he understands the american struggle right now. >> and that is relatable in a

group of people who can't relate to a lot of people. >> if republican voters and some independent voterses decide that they want to look forward and not back, which a lot of the polls indicate they do, marco rubio would be the obvious choice. maybe it's unfair to say that jeb bush is a look backward based only on his name but a lot of people do feel that way that they don't want to return to the bush years. marco rubio couldnativealternative. we've talked to smart people we all respect, nonpartisan people who i think have surprised us sometimes and say we sat down with this guy, he has command of all the issues we understands foreign policy. so he may appear young and inexperienced, but the guy knows what he's talking about. >> david ignatius said as much. >> he can immediately humanize and make you a man of the people. >> lets people know that you have the same struggles. >> in one swoop says i am like you. >> clinton bush obama, all of them had personal narratives that were compelling, captured

the life that they lived and how it brought them to the presidency. we see what marco rubio's is. for jeb bush, it's kind of hard. >> jeb, though, i think jeb -- everybody talks about jeb's in the past, engine's injeb's in the past. i don't know that it's age or presentation as much as it is the fact jeb bush has not been in the arena where he's been beaten and bloodied about and broken since 2006 i guess it is. it's been almost a decade since we've seen him. makes him seem like he's a guy from a different time. >> well, it does. but his structural problem is that he's bush number three. that is the central fact that he has to overcome. and think what we're seeing is that he's not in mid season form. he has been away from the game

for a long time. and to sort of stumble or come haltingly out of the blocks when you have that big impediment i think is potentially a real problem and maybe a fatal problem for him. we'll see how it goes. but i think he's got to get past that relatively quickly or else he's going to be forgot p. >> and that's why i agree that he has to announce and i agree with don anyny, he'll be back in the arena. and think we'll see a completely different race. and i actually like the timing. i actually like the fact that he's laid back let everybody else get in the feed. if there are 20 people in the field, guess whose advantage that is? it's jeb's. because if it's jeb versus the rest jeb can pull down 15% now in iowa and still win iowa. whereas if they're five there,

he comes in third place like his dad did in 1988. this could be setting up perfectly for jeb bush if he launches correctly, if he launches well, if he lets people see who he is. >> in the echo chamber, one thing going for him is that he's appeared to have been approachable in the process here and taken questions from all sides. and i think in the big game the one thing he has going for him, he's governed. >> don't forget hillary is twice, three times, maybe four times more than anybody else. >> and he's smart as hell. he remains the smartest politician i've ever followed around the campaign trail. >> way better candidate than people know. >> if martin o'malley has any chance of beating hillary clinton for the democratic nomination, he hopes it's by running as a progressive alternative to the former secretary of state. >> we have work to do. our economic and political system is upside down and backwards and it is time too

turn it around. we are allowing our land of opportunity to become a land of inequality. this is not how our economy is supposed to work. this is not how our country is supposed to work. this is not the american dream. it does not have to be this way. this generation of americans still has time to become great. >> but then there is the 2007 "washington post" op-ed that he wrote with harold ford entitled our chance to capture the center. >> three ways. >> and they wrote in part this. some on the left would love to pretend that groups such as the democratic leadership council the party's leading centrist voice, aren't needed anymore. but for democrats, taking the center for granted next year would be a greater mistake than ever before. contrast the collapse of a conservative president with the success of the last centrist

president, bill clinton ran on an agenda of sensible ideas that brought america a decade of peace and prosperity. >> gene a lot of debate about the democratic party and where it's moved, but certainly this would seem to be an indication that it has moved left. you don't have democrats in the primaries interested in a centrist clinton type. >> well, yeah. i actually think the spectrum has moved right, so the party seems to have moved left. but, yeah that's an interesting contrast between what o'malley was saying a few years ago and what he's saying now. where is he going to run against hillary clinton if not to her left. she can move to the center much more easily. >> who is more likely to break out, o'malley or bernie sanders? >> i think bernie has more built-in support out there. bernie is very popular. and he strikes a nerve i think with the democratic left that

martin o'malley is still going to struggle to hit right now. i think bernie is the more you know -- i don't think either one is a huge threat to hillary clinton frankly, but sanders will get more traction. >> gene robinson thank you. still ahead on "morning joe," how 150isisis is using water as a weapon in iraq. and is sigh with a over? why the state may be losing its power. and how does rick perry feel about hillary clinton calling him out on voting rights? the presidential candidate will join the table. but first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. let's face it, we've had an ugly start to june. it's been colds, chilly kind of raw. we do have some showers that are left out there and clouds but temperatures will warm up. i'll show you the radar first for theeft. just a few sprinkles around d.c., up around philly some just south of new york city. that will be improving throughout the day. that takes us into tomorrow. belmont stakes this is when

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free. comcast business. built for business. time to take a look at the morning papers. new york "post," isis is using water as a weapon in its fight the to gain control of iraq. iraqi officials says it's taking place on the uhe frayity river. they closed the locks on the came dam to reduce the amount of

accessible water. the move poses a danger to water treatment plants and irrigation systems. isis seized the mosul dam last summer and threatened to flood baghdad. associate president, the u.s. is considering deployment of land based missiles in europe to deter russia. this could allow the u.s. to potentially destroy military targets on russian territory. it comes as russia faces scrutiny for alledgedly testing a cruise missile in violation of a nuclear treaty. russia says it has not violated the treaty and claims the u.s. has with its missile defense systems. white house officials tell the associated press they still hope to resolve the issue with moscow diplomatically. >> national joushrnal senate approved an amendment to the am defense authorization bill that would stop the pentagon from paying nfl teams to honor troops before games. senator john mccain said thursday that nfl franchises

have received nearly $7 million in taxpayer money over the last three years to sponsor pregame ceremonies saluting members of the military. and that the practice should end. the amendment would not only stop the payments, but require teams to return the money they have already received and instead donate to charity. absolutely. >> that's a gross story. i hope senator mccain gets that. >> did anyone know that was happen something. >> if came to light a few weeks ago. >> so you're sitting there clan clapping and saluting the troops while the nfl is making money off of that? >> gross. "washington post," beau biden was honored yesterday in a memorial service at the state capitol in dover delaware days after he passed away from brain cancer at the age of 46. the biden family led by the vice president received beau's flag draped casket outside and hundreds lined up to pay their respects to beau.

president obama will deliver the eulogy at a funeral mass in wilmington delaware tomorrow. >> joining us from washington, chief white house correspondent for politico, mike allen. we'll move on to politics now with all the republican candidates, what is taking the air out of the iowa caucus? >> mika it may be that this weekend is the biggest weekend of the cycle in iowa. so many of the republicans are staying away from the straw poll. scott walker the only top tier candidate going out. but this weekend in iowa, we'll see seven of the candidates speaking. senator joni ernst roasted ride a pork roast and motorcycle ride, she and governor walker will ride harleys 40 miles from today ploin outdes moines out to the expo center where the candidates will speak. senator cotton will speak. but politico is up with a story right now by dave price, a journalist in des moines, who

says iowa is worried that their role as a king maker is going away, that with the straw poll disappearing and the democratic field scattered thoo thatat's with a may not have the influx of the spending that it has in the past. >> and does it trouble you at all thinking back over the year that'ss thatthat's with a hass that iowa has such outsized influence? >> they're very unrepresentative states. what is good is that it forces the candidates to do individual retail campaigning. if it were just national election, the election could be waged on tv. this way it can't. but being some people certainly to quarrel with which states play that role. >> it would be great if other states have civic activism and

voter interests, but they don't. so while they're flawed in a lot of ways i think it's great for the process. both states do a more serious job than anywhere else and it brings it down to human scale. >> mike allen, thank you so much. >> happy weekend. >> that was very muddled. >> happy friday! happy roast and ride. >> there it is. >> thank you, mike. always great to see you. coming up american pharoah could be just hours away from making history as the 12th triple crown winner. we'll go live to belmont park for a look at tomorrow's race for the record books. plus just minutes away from former textas governor rick perry joining the table.

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a head in front right in the middle of the stretch. we'll test these two to affirmed under the left hand whip. affirmed has a nose in front. at the finish it will be dead tight. >> maybe it's because my dad is from kentucky. but there is nothing more exciting than that. triple crown horse racing. do you remember secretary tear i can't tell secretary tear i can't tell, affirmed?

i've been talking about baseball and boxing the best in the '70s. but horse racing my lord unbelievable. that was affirmed back in 1978 winning the belmont stakes. winning it a little differently than sectariat, a country mile. i have that picture in my house. >> was that '76? >> '73. >> don't for get seattle slew. >> of course. yeah. >> one of the best horse names ever. >> mr. ed. >> horse is a horse of course of course. >> okay. >> the thing is it still freaks my taught out that i can sing the entire mr. ed song. >> and i can sink the gilligan island's song. we had misguide edd edd youths.

♪ >> your misspent youth has moved in to your 50s. american pharoah the winner of the kentucky derby and preakness has a chance to make history and become just the 12th triple crown champion ever. with us live now at the track at belmont park josh elliott. josh, man, doesn't get much more exciting than this. >> reporter: you're right. this is what not just this sport hopes for to see an end to a drought almost four decades now in the making but really what the sport's world looks for. it's a great way to jump into summer. at least to have a chance, at least for everybody to come here to bell monthptnth belmont in early june and have a triple crown contender. listening to you talk about the '70s when we were really spoiled. all of a sudden we feel like we're talking about rotary telephones and black and white television. but i do think, guys as good a

story perhaps as california chrome was a year ago when he came here looking to end the drought, he was a good story but maybe not so great a horse. but in american pharoah, we have a potentially trancescendtranscendent horse. this horse truely breathes different air. there are worthy concontenders but it's certainly his race to lose. >> for those not following this closely, we always knew that secretariat started slowly. she would lay back and then explode coming down the stretch. what should we be looking for, the uninitiated, in american pharoah? does american tear roepharoah breakfast, slowly? what do we look for? >> i'll preface will by saying

that usually it's not so much the trim he will crown contender against the other horses as it is the trin he will crown contender against this track itself. they call it big sandy and it's big. it's a mile and a half. it will be the longest that this young horse has ever run in his life. but for pharaoh, all he needs is a clean break. you mentioned secretariat, and i hesitate to put anybody in the same sentence, but american fair pharaoh's stride has been measured to be the greatest. so if he breaks clean, breaking from the five post tomorrow, if he gets a clean break, it's really likely that he could run away and if a horse wants to go with him, they just won't have enough to stay. >> unbelievable, josh. you talked me into coming out there tomorrow. i'll have to go to the belmont. >> reporter: get out here. >> i'm coming. i'll see you out there tomorrow.

thank you so much, josh elliott. you can watch the 147th belmont stakes tomorrow on nbc. do you remember '73? >> oh, yeah. >> i will tell you, i don't know if i've seen anything as remarkable in sports. as when secretariat turned around and exploded off the home stretch. i still all these years later, i was just a young kid, i never saw anything like it. and i don't think we ever will again. but it was the most dominant single performance i think in the history of sports. certainly in my lifetime. >> renlg sgiggie jackson hitting three home runs is pretty good. >> that is actually right up there. but not quite the same. >> during his time as governor texas created more than three

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onset former new york governor george pataki. >> south carolina senior senator joining us now. >> republican candidate mike huckabee. >> make the case talk about my record and vision. >> we were talking about hearing loss. it's really sad getting old. >> why would you want to run just to to thedo the easy things? >> if somebody is watching the show, let joe know where to send the check. >> i'm the only person the on the republican ticket who has

ever faced the clinton political machine. if anybody is prepared infor the battle, it's the guy sitting next to you today. >> or is it the guy sitting next to you today. so far this week alone, three candidates have joined the table and joining us now, rick perry. >> it is great to have you back. >> i liked what you said recently. >> well, coming from you that's -- >> horrible. >> i was going to say that may not be good. because she's not going to vote in any republican primary. >> general election, you can start working on that. >> so we first met at the republican governors soergs conference. and i was surprised that you would even talk to me because we had a rough back and forth in 2012. but i always said one of your great skills and skills of a great politician you just can't have a memory. i don't have a memory unless you talk about my family.

they ever i then i never forget. but what struck me the most you were talking about your dad, talking about your dad, west texas, blue collar guy. i sat there positionthinking he doesn't have a trust fund, he's not from an oil family, this guy can probably understand what struggling americans are going through. sounded like yesterday today's what your message was aimed for. >> we were talking about real life experiences. i grew up in a place 16 miles from the closest post office. and a house that didn't have plumbing. outhouse was the way he took care of yourself. and mom bathed us in a number two wash tub on the back porch. my mom is still a quilter. >> your mom gave you a bath until you went off to college? >> i'm saying -- sewed your clothes. i'm just being a jerk. so you guys didn't have indoor plumbing until you went off to

college? >> we were seven or eight. when my sister got to be old enough to havevhave friends over, mom said we're building a bath in the house. so the friends came over and we -- well, i didn't i watched and we built it. and we had indoor plumbing in the house. but it was a great way to grow up. it was a wonderful community. my football coach was my track coach and my basketball coach. he was a civics teacher are, the principal principal and bus driver. and my scout master was also the superintendent of the sunday school class and also president of the school board. really small community, people who taught us god country, duty. my scout master who sent me to the college that i went to. all of those are experiences that paint my view of the world. just like my military service paints my view of the world.

it's why i care so much about these -- >> so why are you running? >> i think america needs somebody in the white house every day. these veterans that are being so ill suited today by the veterans administration they need somebody that goes to the white house every day and thinks about them and makes a phone call. i don't think the president today does that. one of the reasons the veterans administration is not changed, and that culture has not changed, there is not a president came when he shows up at the oval office calls his chief of staff and says what are you doing to take care of these veterans. why is that agency not on the way to recovery. that's just a good example of things i care about, i'm passionate about. obviously creating jobs. we got job creation record in texas that nobody can compete with. that's just the facts. >> we've been talking about connecticut. everybody is leaving connecticut. you're right, everybody has been coming to texas. what could my home state of connecticut do to emulate what you did in texas to bring all

those jobs to a state that is now dead last in job creation? >> there are four things. tax policy regulatory policy legal policy and skilled workforce which basically translates to public school, accountable public school policies. you don't overtax. you don't overregulate. you don't overlitigate. and wife done all thosee've done all those things and the proof is in the pudding. from '07 through 2014 1.5 million jobs created. we added 5.6 people to the population rolls of texas. interestingly during that same period, we lowered substantially the environmental emissions in that state. so you can -- there is 12th largest economy in the world, there is not an inconsequential place. >> so you were talking about income inequality and sticking up for americans who have gotten a raw deal. and now tell me how you would to that. who you would take on.

who is to blame. and do you have what it takes to sometimes perhaps go against the very people that you might need politically? >> well, i think how you deal with it is to get this country back on track where -- when i talk back on track i'm talking economically. lower the corporate tax rate. any accountant worth their salt will tell you lower the corporate tax rate by 10%, you'll raise mid level jobs by 5% to 10%. every blue collar worker out there, my steam sisters friends need to be saying i'm for perry because he'll raise our wages so we can have a better environment. >> but you're not saying anything that will insult anybody. tell me -- >> i hope i don't insult anybody. i hope what i say is here's what needs to change. if wall street -- i don't believe there is anybody too big to fail. i think we made a huge mistake when we passed too big to fail. i think that with gm publicly back whenever that was like in

2009 when they were trying to get their deal through and i said i'm not for that. and gm has a manufacturing facility in texas. but use a the bankruptcy laws. when kuptcorporate leaders make bad mistakes, need to be held accountable, whether wall street or main street. >> this is your second time through this process. you had some good moments and famously not so good moments that a lot of people will remember. that's the guy that couldn't remember the third agency. how do you get passed that do you feel like you have to recast yourself to give people a second look at you? >> i think that's exactly what is going on. and anyone who has done this more than once is recasting themselves. i'm pretty sure that bill clinton had to recast himself after his rather disastrous speech at a convention.

so everyone does that. we've spent a lot of time in preparation for this moment. i knew that if i was going to be a legitimate candidate give myself an opportunity to be successful i had to spend substantial time in preparation on monetary policy, domestic policy foreign policy. we've done that. >> you jumped in too fast last time. >> and i wasn't prepared. >> and you had a bad back injury. that really -- actually two people at this table can understand. that's about as debilitating as anything. >> where do you stand on raising the minimum wage? >> i'm not for it. i think you address all of these issues taxes issues the issues of regulations, and let the economy grow. i want people to have a good job and i want people to have jobs. you raise the minimum wage and again, i side with those that say you're going to push down the number of jobs in this country.

we've already got 93 million people not working in this country. why create more of a gap there by mandating a raise in the minimum wage. >> is there a spiritual crisis in the country now? >> a spiritual crisis in the country? you know, i can only speak for myself. and i know where my hope for the future is. and it's in my lord and savior. everybody else will have to find that place for them too. if people are looking for government to be their savior they're looking at the wrong place. the things we have in this country, they were given to us by god, not by government. if you call spiritual crisis relying on government as a crisis, i would suggest to you we got a is spiritual crisis if you're looking for government to be your savior. >> let's talk about you and jeb bush. there has long been, and you read the reports that you and the bush family don't like each other. very competitive. of course there have also long been rumors that jeb and george

w. don't like each other. so -- >> i put those all in the rumor category. former and the latter. >> so was george w. bush a great governor was he a great president? >> he was a good guchovernor to work with. we were partners for that only two year period of time that i was the lieutenant governor. his father one of the great men of american history. a patriot who i admire greatly. the bushes are a great family. jeb was a good governor. it will be a good competition. there is really extraordinary men and women. i worked with carly through the years. carly fiorina. she's a classy -- >> was george w. bush is great president, a good president? >> i think a good president, yes, sir. >> let's talk about iraq. did he make a mistake? jeb couldn't answer that question. >> i said the more important question, yes, mistakes were made in iraq when you look at -- >> was it a mistake to go into

iraq? >> i think going into iraq was a decision that knowing what i know today i would not have gone into iraq. i don't think anyone would have gone into iraq. but here's the more important question. is that knowing what we know today, would secretary clinton and president obama have pulled out of iraq in 2011. that decision that i will suggest to you probably made in 2009 has been tragic. >> how do we defeat isis? >> you do it with a coalition. saudis jordanians turks egyptians, israelis and other sal lie allies. put together a very focused highly leveraged intelligent machine. and i'm talking about intelligence gathering machine. and then you use your military special operators to go in and eliminate isis. >> you mentioned israel. the president is talking about

the possibility of letting the unite the nations vote on statehood for the palestinians. is that a mistake or something you'd support? >> i think support? >> i think it's a mistake. think it's sending the wrong message. we are in the process of sending almost -- well too often messages to our allies that you can't count on us. israel has been our longest, steadiest friend in the region. they're the most vibrant democracy in the middle east and we send a message to israel almost on a weekly basis that you really can't trust us. so when other people who may not be our friends see that they realize they've got leeway. i think that's exactly why this iranian deal is going where it's going. i think it's exactly the reason you see vladimir putin pushing into the regions that he's in. they don't trust america's leadership to be there when they need them. >> how's your family? >> they're great. i got two grand babies now.

nita is in the process of finishing up the house. every time it clouded up it rained east of austin so we're making progress. >> she seemed to be pretty pumped pretty excited when she announced your candidacy. the last time was kind of tough for everybody but looks like she's in it to win it. >> she is. i would hate to run for president -- i'd rate to run for school board, for that matter, if my spouse wasn't for me. she's committed, she's a patriot. those young men and women on the stage standing with me yesterday, they're really important to her. she's every bit as much a power behind the effort to make sure our veterans get the care that they need as i am. >> all right. governor rick perry, good to have you back on the show. >> we love to have you, man. thank you for coming. >> very nice, very charming. >> thank you as are you. >> well you don't know her that well. >> oh we'll talk.

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>> yeah baby yes, he's back. >> okay. rick perry takes the stage yesterday doing 2012 colt ford song with new lyrics. updated for rick himself. >> in birmingham they love the governor. and they talked about this. >> they talked a lot like someone i talk about a lot. >> who's that? >> elizabeth warren. talking about income inequality and -- >> well, you know, she doesn't have, actually -- she didn't get the patent on that one. >> she didn't get the patent but she certainly has the background and the message and the actions to -- >> yeah she just wants to see -- >> i can't wait to ask him about it. seems like this is part of his campaign now. >> except elizabeth warren wants to cure things the way that democrats try to cure things in connecticut and the only problem is you destroy businesses. but feel good about yourself. >> no i don't think that's the way she wants to do that at all. >> probably so. >> willie has a question. >> yes willie? >> we just passed the 28th

anniversary of your win at the masters. >> we did. [ laughter ] >> why are you wearing that jacket? >> you know nicklaus wins in '86 and if i didn't like him so much -- >> he's a legend. >> i'd be bummed out. i'd be bummed out because everybody always remembers '86. you remember '87, right? i'm in the sand right? and i've got to get down, right? nobody thinks i can. i open up the club head so much they're whispering "this will never work" and i take it down it goes straight up in the air. i had no idea. up and down. saves par. >>. seve is in the clubhouse thinking he's going to get to a playoff. >> jerry pate drunk as a skunk in the bar, he doesn't think i can do it. >> the jacket still fits like it did that day in '87.

>> you know what it is? you know what it is? human growth hormone. you can go just right up the street, there's a doctor you say "i got a cough." just put it right there. >> is that what it is? >> still looks great. >> doesn't really fit and i'm happy it doesn't have food on it so i'm not going to complain. >> i'm not going to lie, willie. every time i go to that corner i tear up a little bit. >> that's where your life changed at amen corner this sunday. >> that's how you got this job. >> can i get to the news you idiots? >> in a second mika. in a second. >> you idiots. >> that's hurtful. so willie let me ask you about this. i don't know if it's needed or not -- >> what have we got? >> i don't know if we really need it or not. maybe there may be some people out there that we think we do but the fda finally approved female viagra. is this a good development for america, willie or is this

something we should be concerned about? >> well i think if the men can have it why not the women? >> oh it's a good development. >> is it a good development? >> uh-huh. yup. >> that was a devilish laugh on mika's part. >> exactly. >> maybe you can explain that during the break. >> no it makes sense. just evens the playing field. >> what's that? evens the playing field? >> yeah. you guys get insurance for that are blue pill. it's ridiculous. >> no, you don't. >> yes, you do. >> what do you mean? >> it's considered like a health issue. >> is it really? you mean insurance pays for that stuff? >> yes. but not for some really actually legitimate female health needs, you know the issue, you've heard it before. some of your republican candidates are great on this issue. h it's talk to them about it. >> i don't know what you're talking about. i don't know if they ever talked about female viagra. you're apparently very happy

about it. so good for you. now, here's mika she's getting revved up and she's going to give you the news. mika, what have you got? >> excuse me? i wheel? >> you're revved up about this female viagra stuff. >> i think it's a good development. >> a great development for america. "shocking, disturbing and troubling" is how lawmakers are describing a breach on the u.s. government. up to four million current and former federal employees are being told their personal information may be -- may have been stolen. at this hour, the fbi says it's investigating how and why the breach occurred but officials say all signs point to hackers from china. politico reports it's not yet clear whether state-sponsored hackers are responsible or if criminals acted on their own. china's embassy, however, says jumping to conclusions would be irresponsible. the breach involved the office of personnel managementing which conducts background checks for

security clearances. cyber security experts feel the hackers could blackmail or impersonate government employees who have access to classified material. the compromise data could include the names of the federal employees and their addresses, credit card data banking records, social security numbers are also a possibility. republican senator and presidential candidate lindsey graham says the breach "may turn out to be yet another example of america being walked over by rivals and adversaries. the obama administration's failures in foreign policy and national security continue to pile up yet they do nothing to change course. i fear a cyber pearl harbor is increasingly more likely if we do not invest in the necessary infrastructure toll protect our nation." >> let's get perspective on this. we bring in former cyber security consultant for ibm, now a director for the heritage foundation steve bucci. steve, thanks for being with us. what was your first concern? >> the first thing i worried

about was, gosh is my name in that list? which it may very well be. the main thing is that you've got four million people who -- at least two million of them who are active federal employees, have access potentially, to classified systems and now somebody has all their personal information. >> four million. >> that's a problem. >> steve, what would be the objective of a hack like this? is this national security question? is this for commercial interests? what do you suspect? >> it could go either way. but i have to tell you, a breach this big, even if it's straight up criminals just looking to do identity theft, that's still a national security issue, particularly when you look at who the people are, whose info they've stolen. >> how do we stop it? >> four million people? this is -- >> steve, how do we stop this? >> and how do you put this back in? you can't, right? what's at risk now? >> you can't put it back in. this is not just a credit card, okay, throw that one away get a new one, it's social security

numbers of great amounts of data. opm has said it's not the whole security clearance form which has data back to your grammar school when you fill it out. but i'm not sure they know yet everything that was stolen it's very hard to determine that in these situations. so there's a little more investigation that needs to go on before we even determine the full extent of the damage. >> all right, steve bucci, thank you so much. we really do appreciate you being with us this morning. >> we'll have to follow up on this. >> big news, rick perry, man, he's back in the race. i'm going to say this about rick perry. >> please do. >> i think this is the measure of a great politician and also i think sometimes a good man or a woman. some would say i was not extraordinarily nice to rick perry in 2012. >> you just -- >> i reported. i pounded. >> and you gave analysis. >> he had a very terrible race and i would say a lot of things that -- you know he had a very

tough race. he had back problems i've had back problems. >> i know, the medication. >> you get on medication. i was doing crazy things on medication when i had back problems. >> was that the medication? >> it could have been the medication and yet the first time i saw him after that race it was like nothing had happened and very kind very -- we had -- you know i grew to really like the guy an awful lot and it's like bill clinton told me one time when you're governor or president you can't have a memory. he didn't say you have to have a short memory. bill clinton said you can't have a memory. and we did see that time and time again when he was president of the united states. the presidents that have memories that carry grudges, they're not as effective as those that can do what bill clinton did during the '90s. you can impeach him one day, he's golfing with you the next because he needs to pass some legislation the next day. and that's what clinton had more than i think any other president that we've had and certainly

rick perry has proven it. trent lott had it too. >> well i think a number of the republican presidential candidates have proved to have this talent unlike hillary clinton so far. i think that they are out there taking jabs from people taking questions, getting torn at at town hall meetings and they seem unafraid and ready to go and it's something i'm looking for on the democratic side especially the front-runner. i think it will make her better. but not having a memory to an extent where you kind of let yourself -- expose yourself to reporters and people and like them no matter what they've said, whether they've disagreed with you or not, you have to be able to do that. >> you can get upset -- >> oh my gosh. >> but you have to put it behind you. my rule is a very simple one. if somebody's attacking me about politics, even the people who slander me and say awful, awful things about me on the internet it's just politics. you put it behind you, you move forward. >> this is the one thing i've seen on your side that i think

they're showing. >> stay away from my family and i'm fine. everything else is fine. >> we've got huge -- bless you. bless you. my gosh. >> that's quite a sneeze. donny deutsch. >> is that donny. >> you were mentioning my name, female havingemale viagra, that's my nickname. >> i did a list about best guests and worst guests. >> worst jacket. >> worst ever bar none. >> well, you didn't hesitate when asked. >> it was just -- came out, one of those things. >> well it was right after donny came on set and for some reason talked about having a dream of katty kay and -- >> he's approaching. he's approaching. oh, my god. >> let's go to rick perry. >> i'm not comfortable. >> he's going away. don't worry, he's out of ear zone. so rick perry is in again. i'm glad he is. h he's talked about his humble

upbringing in making his bid. >> there is no person on earth more optimistic than a dry land cotton farmer. [ laughter ] we always know that a good rain is just around the corner. to those americans -- those, i might add, forgotten americans drowning in personal debt working harder for wages that don't keep up with the rising cost of living i came here today to say "i hear you." to the one in five children in families who are on food stamps to the one in seven americans living in poverty, to the one in ten workers who are unemployed, underemployed, or just given up hope of finding a job, i hear you. you are not forgotten. [ applause ] the american people, they see this rigged game where the insiders get rich, the middle-class pays the tab.

there's something wrong when the dow is near record highs and businesses on main street can't even get a loan. since when did capitalism involve the elimination of risk for the biggest banks while regulations strangle our community banks? >> amen. >> that's elizabeth. that's elizabeth. that's elizabeth. >> elizabeth warren is not the only person -- >> doesn't look like elizabeth but it sounds like elizabeth. >> you know what elizabeth warren said she likes chocolate cake! and now everybody likes chocolate cake! >> no, joe, i like people who want to address income inequality. i don't know if he means it but, boy -- >> i've been talking about it for a long time. there have been other republicans, alan greenspan said four years ago that income inequality was the greatest threat to american capital zblichlism. >> who do you think in the republican party can really do anything about it? please. >> are we going to have to listen to you every time somebody says something about income inequality "it's elizabeth warren."

it's not all elizabeth warren. >> no it's not but boy, he does sound like her right now, doesn't he? and why is he doing it? >> no. i'll tell you why he's doing it the rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer the working class is -- >> and they're finally getting it that this bothers people. they're finally getting what she's been saying for years and years and years and it's selling now as a political point. >> republicans have been saying it. how many times have you heard me say -- >> i've heard you say it. you've been saying it for years. but you're not running for president. >> i'm not the only republican that's been saying that. >> really? >> it is so obvious that as the rich get richer and the poor get poorer and income inequality spreads apart that are it is a fundamental risk -- >> oh no we're going to go to huckabee. we're not going to do this next soundbite because i want to talk about the republicans talking about income inequality. >> you talked about perry having to have short memory or no memory. he's going to have to count on the voters doing the same for him because the impression he left nationally in 2012

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a former fbi agent has been indicted for allegedly stealing over $100,000 in seized drug money and spending it on plastic surgery, cars and a week end in vegas. >> i mean, you just described donny deutsch's memorial day weekend. [ laughter ] >> the justice department said thursday the indictment claims 44-year-old scott bowman also used some of the money seized while executing search warrants between june and august of 2014 to play for -- to pay for plastic surgery for his wife. >> well, in donny's case his 28-year-old girlfriend. >> from the associated press, 91-year-old walter thomas of suburban chicago can officially check "drive a car through a garage door on purpose" off his bucket list. walter fulfilled a life long dream with help from his family a borrowed suv and a soon to be demolished garage and two motorcycle helmets. >> really. >> check it out. >> well i hit the gas, squealed

the tires and bang we went through the door. >> one, two, three! >> i think it's in the category of the demolition derby. it was thrilling to get to do it after all these years which i never thought would ever happen. i don't know what i can do to top that. i'm getting too old to top anything. just live life to the extreme. >> hi baby. >> that's living. >> i like. >> it i'm thinking to each his own, but what is that about? >> that was great. >> it's fun, man. >> it's just fun. >> every morning he pulls out, he has to wait for the door to open. >> it's over. the door is gone. i like it a lot. >> i think mtv should have "jackass" for the 90 plus set.

>> mark lighten up you never blew stuff up in the backyard? >> oh that i get. >> destruction is good. >> go to vegas on plastic surgery for the weekend? so we've been talking all week about -- first of all, we've been talking about the whistle-blower in oregon. they wanted to destroy all the e-mails, ordered him toll destroy the e-mails. >> then he released them to the press. >> they were talking about prosecuting him. we talked about it on the show. they've dropped all charges, so hear hear. >> good. >> we didn't have quite the impact we wanted to have in connecticut. the connecticut state legislature passed this massive -- >> you had no impact. >> -- new tax law. well, they were talking about it, the debate went late into the night but, you know general electric had actually said it would make the company rethink its historic home base of

connecticut if they passed yet another massive tax increase after promising not to pass another massive tax increase. and now general electric is doing just that. in an e-mail to its employees yesterday, ceo jeff immelt wrote that he's assembled an exploratory team to check out the company's options to move to a state with a more pro-business environment. unfortunately for connecticut, they're about 49 states that have a more pro-business environment than the nutmeg state. the e-mails said potential impact on employees could be one of the considerations and this is just bad business. i mean these new taxes on businesses -- first of all, they came after a massive new tax increase was passed a couple of years ago which is why governor dan malloy made this pledge while he was running for reelection just a couple of months ago. >> i don't believe there will be a budget deficit and i pledge

there that there won't be one. i've also pledged there will not be a tax increase. that's not a promise i made four years ago. >> and then the governor made this promise a month later. >> let me be clear, there will not be a deficit, nor there l there be a tax increase. i never took a pledge to raise taxes the last time. >> it's insane. donny, listen to these numbers. a few points on my home state of connecticut. it's one of only four states that lost population last year. it was last in job creation last year. it's been dead last in job creation since twagts. and time and time again it's been selected as one of the least business friendly states with the worst business tax policies. steve rattner came on yesterday and he talked about the impact that that had and he talked about the most and the least tax-friendly states and it's

remarkable. it's not just regional. a lot of times we think, hey, northeast states are at a disadvantage. well, guess what? new hampshire isn't because guess that? they don't an income tax. and it's made all the difference in the world. and donnie you've set up and sold businesses worth hundreds of millions of dollars. and this is justs by i can math. it's not about being a republican or democrat or conservative, it's about being smart or being backward-looking. and you'll remember there was a day when connecticut was a place that businesses rushed to. that individuals rushed to. that small businesses rushed to. it was a tax haven. people said "i'm going to go set up my business in connecticut so i don't have to deal with new york or new jersey's taxes. it's now become just as bad. >> it's not even a partisan issue. as you said it's a common-sense issue. general electric, look up in the

dictionary u.s. corporation and you come up with general electric. it goetzets to the point with jeff immelt, one of the smartest guys, and a popular ceo. >> and by the way, he loves connecticut. he loves the state. >> this is not a dotcom company. this is not a guy going to say "i'm going to incorporate in ireland." he plays within the lines. >> and jeff raised his family in connecticut. he's loved -- he loves connecticut. there's no state in the country he'd rather be in. he makes the same choice that i made and other people make. >> here's the important thing. i don't care whether you're a democrat or republican you cannot fundamentally arit mat-- arit matally force businesses to leave. this governor is not going to get reelected. you cannot run on that. >> no. and there have been so many businesses that have been fleeing the states since lowell

wyche weicker in 1991 started it with an income tax. >> and it has extraordinary advances in terms of people and location and history being squandered because they have not put policies in place that actually would encourage people to come into the state as opposed to leave. >> it doesn't have some of the best colleges and some of the most educated people in america. it's got some of the best colleges and some of the most educated people in the world: in the world. and yet, willie i know you've made the drive up new england like i have like mika. mika knows connecticut better than anybody here but one shuttered factory after another shuttered factory after another shuttered factory. it's been a devastating 20 years. instead of turning things around like carol campbell did in south carolina in the 1980s, we get this. more taxes. >> well something's got to give here. jeff immelt says corporate taxes have been raised five times since 2011 and he says they can't bear that anymore. 5,700 employees for ge inside

connecticut. you wonder what happens to those people if they decide to move. i would call this a bluff except the tax has already passed so they're not using it as leverage. the tax went through and now jeff immelt said they're going to move. dannel malloy is going to have to work with immelt and aetna and travelers and everything else. these the beating heart in the state of connecticut. >> mika they're going to have go to ge and aetna and travelers and all of these companies and say, listen we're going to hold a special session -- >> iconic companies that have held connecticut together for decades. >> they have to call a special session and come back on these taxes if they're going to cause thousands and thousands of jobs to the state. coming up on "morning joe." with the health of their children failing, we've got a look at american parents waging the fights of their lives. >> these women believe there is something that might help something illegal in virginia an oil extracted from marijuana. what is your hope for medical

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a police officer's suv fell into a giant sinkhole after the road caved in falling between 10 and 15 feet. police say the sergeant crawled out of the suv's roof and then flagged down help since his radios were damaged. his taken to the hospital and later released. lucky him. what a nightmare. >> can you imagine? >> no i can't. >> it usually happens in florida. >> that's kind of a florida thing, isn't it? the news and finance anchor at yahoo! bianna golodryga is with us at the table along with mark halperin. >> bianna i don't know your last name is a texas name. >> the last name is rodriguez. >> so your family immigrated from russia? >>. >> from moldova. so i didn't speak a lick of english, neither did my parents. they put me in an esl class because they assumed we were spanish speakers. it took three months of me being

in an esl class and i brought spanish home work at home and my mom didn't know english that well but she knew that was not english. they corrected the situation after that. >> how many years did they call you rodriguez? >> many years. my fathers last night was golodryga and he'd call up and say "vitaly golodryga." and they'd say "hold on mr. rodriguez." >> let's talk about the unemployment rate. 5.5% from 5.4% in april. >> that's not bad news. it could mean people are looking for work. that's a good number. it once again solidifies the fact that the economy is in fact, growing. >> and the unemployment rate is one of the most confusing rates for americans that look from a distance. we have several bad months it goes down 5.4% we finally have a number we can be happy about it goes to 5.5% and you have to explain that it's because more people are getting back in and

trying to get into the work force. one of the lowest job participation rates in a generation. >> and what will be interesting is we still haven't seen the consumer dig into their pockets as we approach summer. it will be interesting to see if the service sect orpiks up which it typically does so that's restaurants, stores, hotels. we saw a significant dropoff. >> so on wages a growth of 2.3% only. >> we are expecting 2% so that's higher but that's still the sticking point. most people aren't feeling it. >> they're not feeling it. >> but it's still mixed right? if you look at all the economic statistics, it's mixed from where we'd like to be right? >> that's right. and economists are still concerned that last year we saw the same thing. the past few years we've seen the first quarter decline and then a pickup for the rest of the year they're still concerned we may see a pickup -- >> steady cam, get ready. the reason why we know that your last name was rodriguez for a while is because somebody mika

special is here. >> oh yeah. i don't know if f she came makeup ready. she might kill me for this. >> bianna's mom! she's always makeup ready. >> "oh, god no" she says. that's hilarious. this is what happens when you come to "morning joe". >> you can't get away with that. >> that's a true fan. can you imagine coming from houston to meet you guys in person. >> it's texas day here. first rick perry -- >> she's announcing her run for president. well, she can't, she wasn't born here. we have to change that. >> neither was ted cruz it's okay. we're changing the rules this year. he's from canada, right? moldova? >> can we talk tonys? the 69th annual tony award will feature live performances from broadway's most popular musicals including "finding neverland" and "the king and i." >> which mark halprin, you say -- >> theater mow gel and "morning joe" broadway correspondent -- >> i want to be a mow gel. >> he's a mooggul.

jordan roth gives us this behind-the-scenes look at radio city music hall. >> team "morning joe," it's broadway's biggest night, the tony awards. but first, we rehearse. ♪ ♪ so you are here at the tony awards as the star of "finding neverland." you guys are performing this amazing closing to your act one. >> just performing at the tonys here is a childhood dream. >> what show are you most excited to see perform on sunday night? >> i'm really looking forward to seeing kelly o'hara perform. ♪ getting to know all about you ♪ >> the great kelly o'hara star of "king and i" six-time nominee. does this ever get old? >> no. every one of them is different.

every single one of them feels different. it's about something different. so i celebrate this one in a whole new way. >> sunday night you are getting a lifetime achievement tony award. your tenth. >> my tenth. >> amazing. >> i know! >> will you have a favorite among your ten? >> well the first one, like your first love. you know i was just a kid from the chorus and i got a break. >> and the winner is tommy tune. [ cheers and applause ] >> oh tony. [ laughter ] it's not a movie, it's not a television show, it is not a rock concert, it is a broadway musical and that is something special. every little town city village in this country has a broadway it seems. we'll make a show here and then we'll seend it out to them. we have the tonys and we say "okay, this is what we did this

year we're sending it out to you." and sometimes they go all around the world. >> it's not the tonys without tommy. >> what a laugh. >> i love jordan. up next on "morning joe," the emotional stories of three families who do everything in their power to legalize medical marijuana to improve the lives of their children. we'll explain that next on "morning joe." the promise of the cloud is that every organization has unlimited access to information, no matter where they are. the microsoft cloud gives our team the power to instantly deliver critical information to people, whenever they need it. here at accuweather we get up to 10 billion data requests every day. the cloud allows us to scale up so we can handle that volume. we can help keep people safe and to us that feels really good. what do you think of when you think of the united states postal service? exactly. that's what pushes us to deliver smarter

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>> but these women believe there is something that might help, something illegal in virginia an oil extracted from marijuana. what is your hope for medical marijuana? >> to meet our daughter. to meet who she really is. >> to make that happen these families are attempting to do something they've been told is impossible -- they must change a law that has stood for decades. >> a look at "dateline's" special "growing hope" airing sunday at 7:00 p.m. on nbc. joining us now, nbc news correspondent harry smith. >> good morning. >> these mothers look incredible. >> beyond incredible. >> beyond incredible. they have such will and what's driving them? >> so there are certain kinds of epilepsy really severe seizure disorders. what happens is you have a kid with this and they say "take this drug." you take this drug you take that drug, the regimen is about 12 all together one usually

fails, second usually fails and after that you're over a cliff and nobody's going to help. so there's a woman named paige figgy in colorado. she's reading a journal, her child is in hospice care is about to die and reads about some research in europe that says that something in the marijuana plant that might help with these seizures. so that's charlotte's web and that's where people are moving to colorado to get this drug. >> it had an impact? did it have a dramatic impact? >> in this girl's particular case she stopped having seizures all together. >> wow. >> stopped. >> she was in hospice? >> hospice care. so as the word spreads about this, you have people who are moving to colorado to try to get this. this is a kind of marijuana that is high in canabbadial. there's no thc in it 0.3%.

it doesn't make you high. there's nothing in it that makes you high. so what these women are doing in this story, we have these kids we can't get to colorado to get this substance but we don't want to get arrested if we bring it to virginia. the same thing has happened in georgia. the same thing happened in virginia and basically when they went in there, the legislator says "marijuana is in the name of this bill? forget it it's not going to happen." >> are people that shortsighted, though? it's so obvious. >> well, i don't want to give away the entire plot of the thing but that law has now passed in georgia that enables people to get high canabadial oil. >> and it all starts with somebody just reading and putting -- >> without the internet once again. she's sitting there -- the woman who starts it is in a legal state so she can call somebody up and say you ever heard of

this? ever heard of this? ever heard of this? you'll see the whole story. it's dramatic. and you'll meet the little girl who is patient zero out in colorado who was on hospice care. you'll see her flying there the woods on a zip line. >> tell us a little bit more about her and where she was, where she is now. >> charlotte figgy? so the figgy family is in colorado springs. the husband is deployed in afghanistan as a green beret. the mom's at home with this child. it's almost impossible to comprehend what these diseases are like because one of the moms we talked to said well our daughter was down to about 100 seizures a year. >> wow. >> some of these kids have seizures all day long. repeat trip after repeat trip after repeat trip to the emergency room and the emergency room doctors are saying "there literally isn't anything we can do for you." >> and it's not just a human

story, it's an economic story as well. think about how much money taxpayers are paying for these kids to have hop hospice care go to the hospital for emergency care. there are proven results here. >> and that becomes the other part of the question. so the legislatures say well where's the proof? and if you're marijuana, you're a schedule one drug. if you're a schedule one drug there's no possible medicinal value to the drug and you are as dangerous as heroin, that's what schedule one says. guess what how hard it is to do research on a schedule one drug? just about frigging impossible. so we want the proof yet at the same time we're in this catch-22 with this drug. there's a lot to see in this show. >> "dateline's" "growing hope" air this is sunday at 7:00 p.m. on nbc. harry smith, thank you very much. great to see you. >> harry, thank you, you have a favorite for best actress in the tonys, don't you? >> well you know i'm a big kelli o'hara fan. >> we're long overdue.

go kelli. >> you said that inside though is -- there are a lot of good plays out there. i just saw a larry david play this week too. oh, my god. it's just larry david being larry david for two hours. >> what more could you ask for, right? >> there's a moment in the second act where somebody says "how's it going?" "it's pretty --" and the entire place goes nuts. >> i love it. >> cool stuff. >> "fish in the dark"? what's it called? >> "fish in the dark." >> we're going. >> coming up he's helping stars learn skills they never knew they had. the host of nbc's new show "i can do that" marlon wayans next on "morning joe."

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listen how did you think they did this week? >> honestly i think they by far had the hardest act, i'm a little relieved it wasn't me but i think it would have been cool to be on their shoulders so they could help me dunk for the first time ever. >> you are way too big to be on anybody's shoulders. your big behind -- you'd be like this. [ laughter ] >> oh my god, marlon. >> that was the scene from the new nbc comedy variety series "doing that." joining us now, the host of the show comedian actor, producer marlon wayans. what did you just do there on stage? >> i kind of did a split.

>> ouch. >> i don't think i have like, bones in my knees. i think i'm part insect or something. i don't know. it's serious i don't know how i do that. >> the show looks fun. >> it must be that -- you know what it is? it's a great show and it's a great time. the cast is really great. i'm lucky to go to work and ceci area a and cheryl burke and nicole scherzinger and joe jonas jonas. it's a beautiful cast. >> what's the idea of the show? what do you do? >> basically we watch some great acts perform like the harlem globe trotters or we'll watch the blue man group or some great phenomenal act and if the guests think they can do it they run up to the top of the stage, they lock in and choose a partner and they have one week to master those skills and then you have to perform it in front of the world. and if you mess up you look like a fool. >> right. >> i want to do blue man group. >> you don't want to do that. >> i thinkic. >> trust me. it's a lot harder than it looks. you ever wallowswallow paint?

it's not fun. you look in the bathroom the next morning you have blue in the toilet. it's a bad time. it's all bad. i want to know where is that miracle marijuana that the dude was talking about? it's lake hey, take a hit of this and you start walking. i've been crippled for five years, oh man -- see, that's a hell of a high there. boy, my friends would be like "man, where you get that? that need to legalize that tomorrow." >> they've legalized in it in some states. >> i've had friends move to seattle. like "yo, i'm out. forget new york." >> really? okay. >> so along with this show you are actually starting to write and you're going to star in a spoof of "50 shades of grey." what's it called? >> it's called "fifty shades of black." and basically it's kind of like what what if christian grey was

black and he was rich but you didn't know how he got his money, it could be shady and he's a really bad lover. [ laughter ] >> he's really bad? >> kind of like in the movie. but it's really funny, a lot of fun me. and my producing partner rick alvarez wrote it. we just signed a deal it will be distributed domestically and it will be out first quarter of next year. >> that sounds like fun. >> will there be a book or just a movie? >> i'll do the movie then the book. and i want to congratulate you on the masters. >> very -- [ laughter ] very few people remember. they remember nicklaus '86. >> i just want to put one in and just have you put the jacket on me next time. >> you have to go around amen corner to get that. >> i'm looking at your background. you were raised in the housing projects of new york city and the youngest of 10 siblings. >> yes. >> does that have any -- >> my daddy got stretch marks.

[ laughter ] >> can you write that one down? >> we've got. >> it we want to use that one. >> and many of your siblings were with you in "in living color." one of the best shows. >> my brother keenan and damon, they were the fore fathers of that and me and sean and my sister kim she was a great cast member. me and sean just came along for the ride. we were like "nepotism is real let's do this." >> you should bring it back. >> i would love to but, you know, i think it's hard to try and find that kind of cast. you have to think all the people that came off that show jim carrey damon wayans keenan kim, jennifer lopez, jamie foxx david alan grier. there's so many -- they don't make stars like they used to. before it took 20 years to perfect that. now days you know everybody wakes up they turn on their iphone and they put a youtube video out and get a hundred million views and now they're stars. but it's different when

you're -- it's like microwave success whereas before it was like nurtured. >> "i can do that" airs 10:00 on nbc. marlon wayans. >> thank you. and june 6 i'm in north quest resort casino airway heights washington with my brothers sean and damon. june 12 to 14 i'm at the improv in arlington, texas and june 27 planet hollywood in las vegas doing standup. >> i'm tired. >> this man is working hard. you know how many people i've got to take care of? my mother and father had 20 children. >> up next, what if anything we learned today. your dog's definitely got your back. but who's got your back when you need legal help? we do. we're legalzoom, and over the last 10 years, we've helped millions of people protect their families and run their businesses. we have the right people on-hand to answer your questions backed by a trusted network of attorneys. so visit us today for legal help you can count on. legalzoom. legal help is here.

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. welcome back, kids. time to talk about what we learned today. we learned an awful lot. we learned about stretch marks. >> oh, i don't know where to start. >> what did you learn? >> tonys and belmont this weekend. a big new york city weekend. >> reason to be optimistic with n the job market. >> better-than-expected which is why the unemployment rate went up. mika, what did you learn? >> well, this weekend is my daughter carly's 17th birthday. >> happy birthday! >> look at that smile. >> from a simpler time. >> you and amelia are my greatest joy and greatest challenges in life. >> and look at that smile. she hasn't changed a bit. >> a very challenging baby. >> stop that you sound like your mother. >> she's perfect. i would haven't her any other way. >> she's absolutely perfect.

very good. if it's way too early it's "morning joe." thank you for watching this week. we as always appreciate it. >> have a great weekend. >> and good luck at the master's again. >> so i'm down here and i'm like -- and good morning, i'm jose diaz-balart. first on "the rundown" this morning, a cyber crime of unprecedented proportions. the obama administration says the chinese government is likely behind a data breach that could potentially impact every federal agency in the country. start inging on monday more than four million federal workers will be getting notice their personal information may have been stolen. former director of the national counterterrorism center said this is just the beginning. >> this is cat and mouse. every time chinese or someone else find a way in and we patch that that adversary looks for another method to get in and get