hastert. hillary clinton goes there. >> naming names. hillary challenges republicans over voting rights. >> she went after them by name. >> former governor rick perry. >> governor scott walker. governor chris christie. jeb bush. systematically and deliberately trying to stop millions of american citizens from voting. >> we expected her to go big. she went even bigger than we expected. >> what part of democracy are they afraid of? >> one of the best days of her presidential campaign so far. >> stop fear mongering about a phantom epidemic of election fraud. >> just eight days to her first big 2016 rally, and official campaign kickoff, hillary clinton is naming and shaming republicans like she's already

the nominee. the subject, voting rights. the the location, deep in the heart of texas. >> here in texas, former governor rick perry signed a law that a federal court said was actually written with the purpose of discriminating against minority voters. in wisconsin, governor scott walker cut back early voting and signed legislation that would make it harder for college students to vote. in new jersey governor chris christie vetoed legislation to extend early voting. and in florida, when jeb bush was governor state authorities conducted a deeply flawed purge of voters before the presidential election in 2000. >> fresh off his announcement yesterday, former texas governor rick perry today rejected clinton's claims that his state's voter i.d. law discriminates and said she's

tussling with texas. >> that was a law that was passed by the people of the state of texas. she just went into my home state and dissed every person who supports having an identification to either get on an airplane or vote. >> wisconsin governor scott walker went further saying in a statement hillary clinton's rejection of efforts to make it easier to vote and harder to cheat not only defies logic, but the will of the majority of americans. once again, hillary clinton's extreme views are far outside the mainstream. but it was new jersey governor chris christie who really went there, saying of clinton today, my sense is that she just wants an opportunity to commit greater acts of voter fraud around the country. joining me now, msnbc's national correspondent joy reid editor-in-chief of "the new york times" magazine jake silverstein. and former chair of the dnc howard dean. governor dean, what is your response to governor christie who is suggesting that hillary

clinton wants to commit further acts of voter fraud? >> this is her best day in the campaign so far. first of all she galvanizes her own base with this. second of all, she galvanizes the obama coalition, which she has to have in order to win the general election. and third of all, she makes the republicans sound ridiculous by baiting them into getting involved with this issue. this is perfect. those guys have to cater to the right wing base. reminds every minority voter and every young voter who's been disenfranchised by these alec bills that are being passed why they don't vote for republican. this is absolutely the best day of her campaign so far. >> joy, i tend to agree with the governor. and jemele wrote as much on "slate" today. which is this feels actually like the beginning of her campaign. this feels like hillary clinton finding an issue she thinks she can win on. the policy that she's very comfortable discussing. the statistics including the

fact that there have been 31 incredible instances of voter impersonation out of one billion votes cast between 2000 and 2014. >> absolutely. and along with building off the criminal justice reform she suggested does get right at the heart of the obama coalition. because the idea of being denied the right to vote is one of the most galvanizing things you can place before african-american audiences. and in texas, hispanic audiences. because remember when the justice department went after that texas law, a substantial portion of the people impacted by that law were latino. people with latino surnames. and people who had a name that didn't 100% match the documents when they got married or changed their driver's license. that law is so onerous, so egregious, that it was one of the ones targeted by eric holder, another very big favorite of the obama base. so i think this was really strong. if you're against universal registration, you really need to explain why. >> jake, you logged in some time

in texas. >> i did. >> in the state of texas, some 600,000 mostly black and mostly latino voters are potentially disenfranchised by the texas law. rick perry says that hillary clinton has dissed everyone in the state who's i guess theoretically supportive of voter i.d. laws. what's your reaction to the state politics and how it plays nationally? >> i think first of all, you know, governor dean said that it was the best day of her campaign. we must point out the brilliant strategic move of drawing out on his first day in the campaign rick perry, who clinton would love to have -- >> yes, as the nominee. >> a potential opponent. i have to commend him for his appropriate use of the word diss. he's got that right. >> got the word right for once. >> but perry is an interesting example of a candidate and what he's been able to pass in texas when he was a governor is a good example of this. who because of how blood red texas has become during his 18

years as governor i think shows some weaknesses as a campaigner on the national stage. we see some of that already. >> i want to bring in msnbc political analyst jonathan alter. we're talking about how i think masterfully clinton has baited the republicans. i mean, you have scott walker chris christie and rick perry all responding to an issue that i don't think is a particularly good one for them nationally. it's hard to imagine that this is something they want to have to talk about if any of them is the nominee. >> she also called out jeb bush. he was governor of florida when they were wrongly purging all of these names from the voters list. if that had not happened, al gore would have been elected in 2000. so that was historically important. it's a good issue for her. it takes voting suppression -- voter suppression, which had been a lesser issue.

it takes it into the top tier of issues. so that now in every debate, this question of voter suppression will come up. republicans do not have the better of this argument. except in one area. voter i.d. laws are popular. most people go if i need -- >> because they hear the top line phrase voter i.d. laws. that sounds not bad. >> so if i need i.d., cash a check or whatever, why not to vote? so they need to get past to a whole series of other things that are done to discriminate against voters. in many states you have to have a state-issued i.d. so your bus card is no good. your student i.d. is no good. >> your gun license. and the crassness of that. >> it's also very important because hillary needs to appeal with this issue not just to blacks and latinos but to young voters and explaining how

they're disenfranchised. >> governor dean it's not just a coincidence. of the 11 states with the highest african-american turnout in 2008 seven have new voter i.d. restrictions. of the 12 states with the largest hispanic population growth in the last ten years, nine passed laws making it harder to vote. just bring those statistics out and say them and the political motivation is just completely transparent. >> right, but jonathan is right about one thing. and these republicans are not stupid. they may not be able to run the country, but they're not stupid and they're good politicians. he went right to voter i.d. and pretended that hillary was attacking voter i.d. requirements. that is not what she's attacking. she's talking about taking away early voting. taking away sunday voting. taking away rights of pastors to take their flocks to church after church services. that is poisonous. and the voter i.d. stuff is

poisonous to college students. many of these candidates have participated and led the way, including john kasich in ohio to suppress young voters. that is absolutely essential. this is a great issue for them. it's not that big an issue for the american people as a whole, but it's a really big issue for the core groups that got barack obama elected as president of the united states. >> but i think it reveals something as you get into it. it reveals something about the priorities of the american people and the tactics. >> absolutely. i would be remiss if i did not get to scott walker's contention that hillary clinton's views are far outside the mainstream. scott walker, who is supporting a 20-week abortion ban for no

exceptions for rape or incest. 54% of women identify as pro-choice. >> absolutely. >> these guys are skilled propagandists. that's what they are. >> so hillary clinton -- the things that she's doing lately are very revelatory of the people that she's standing against. you're right. she's drawing them out into the mainstream. on the issue of women's rights scott walker has been under the radar for a very long time. people not realizing how strong of an evangelical candidate he is. people just see him as the anti-union guy. to the issue we were just talking about. in texas, the state where hillary clinton made that announcement, if you change your name because you get married, you can be disenfranchised. this isn't just about young people and people of color. this is all about women. >> and elderly people. >> and suddenly they cannot vote either. >> i also would be remiss if i did not get to the activities of chris christie this week

including throwing out some baseballs, first pitches. and what we are terming the yolo phase. he once supported a path to citizenship. he now calls it an extreme to go. and the allegations around hillary clinton and voter fraud. what do you think is happening here to the governor of new jersey? what do you think he's doing? >> this is my governor you're talking about. i think he's looking for something. he's looking for his mojo. what is he looking for? >> something. >> looking for a foothold. a hand hold. a hold of some kind. >> he's your governor. you presumably are someone under his leadership. do you think he has even the support of his state going forward in any meaningful way? >> no. well, if we're talking about the

primary campaign obviously christie is among them who we're going to see hang around for a little while and shake out pretty soon. i'm actually surprised the field is only showing signs at this point of getting bigger and bigger and bigger and more crowded. you have somebody like ben carson, who people were willing to write off almost immediately upon his entry to the field, who is still polling pretty well. looking like he's going to hang in. right now, it just feels like it's christie and carson who are probably not viable candidates, flst just there's just more of them getting drawn in. >> to say nothing of donald trump, carly fiorina, george pataki. >> a quick note since we're his constituents. he's got a lot of problems. the bond rating has been downgraded nine times. the bridge gate trial is opening this fall. which will be horrible publicity

for him for weeks on end. he could conceivably an unindicted co-conspirator, which will come out this fall. having said that he is a very good politician, and you could see him shining in a debate and getting his little moment in the sun. >> that is a really optimistic assessment. we have to leave it there. thank you, as always. jonathan joy, and jake only j names. stay with me. after the break, the sex abuse scandal is expanding. did china steal personal information from four million government workers? and if so, why? and later, there is really good news today on tolerance and acceptance in america. i will tell you what it is ahead on "now." you've heard of a "win-win," right? what about a "win-win-win"? pick up the limited edition metallic droid turbo

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for former house speaker dennis hastert, the scandal continues. a week after he was indicted family members of another alleged victim are speaking out. a woman's brother was a student at the high school where hastert served as a wrestling coach. >> i asked him, steve, when was your first same-sex experience? and he just looked at me and said it was with dennis hastert. and i just -- i was stunned. i said why didn't you ever tell anybody, stevie? he was your teacher. why didn't you ever tell

anybody? he just looked at me and said who is ever going to believe me? in this town, who is ever going to believe me? >> and was it your sense this happened more than once? >> nbc news has not independently confirmed the allegation and has repeatedly reached out to hastert without success. in the interview, she says she confronted hastert when he showed up to her brother steve's funeral in 1995. >> i just looked at him and i said i want to know why you did what you did to my brother. he just stared at me. and i continued to say that i want you to know that your secret didn't die in there with my brother and i want you to remember that i'm out here and that i know. >> reacting this afternoon, barney frank, who served alongside frank in the house, brought up the issue of hypocrisy. >> it's a reminder of the hypocrisy upon my republican colleagues. dennis hastert was the speaker.

he determined the agenda. it was his choice in 2004 and 2006 as speaker to put before the house and to push for constitutional amendment that would ban same-sex marriage. he initiated those two major anti-gay activities, which fortunately were defeated. >> joining us now, amanda murcot. i feel like -- the allegations remain unchanged, but having a person and his story, if we're to believe the sister here makes this -- i think drives home the hypocrisy and the feeling that this was really morally repugnant in a tangible way almost. >> yeah, i couldn't agree more. it's a person and a person who's dead and who had a life and a family. it's difficult not to wonder how much that must have affected him. not just at the time but also an entire lifetime of seeing dennis hastert be such a massive

hypocrite and oppressing gay people. >> we're seeing pictures of steve in high school. and we're being asked to revisit this sort of potential trials of a high school boy whose coach had some kind of sexual relationship with him. that in and of itself just seems really inappropriate to anybody who looks at that situation. >> yeah inappropriate. >> because technically we don't know -- we're told it's not pedophilia, but sexual misconduct in some way. but the relationship seems predatory in that it was an older man in a leadership position and a younger boy in high school. >> apparently he was 14 when this started, from what i understand. and if you've hung around any 14-year-olds recently they're not even -- they're barely not kids. >> right. >> i guess barney frank brings up an important point, which is

in the atmosphere generally when you talk about this sort of sanctimonious attitude held by some, and then these deep dark secrets that are coming out that reveal what seems to be blatantly hypocritical behavior and positioning on the national stage. >> yeah. and we're seeing an instance where potentially the level of the sanctimony corresponded to the level of the impropriety. we're talking about somebody who is not just any teacher or coach, but somebody who took that wrestling team to the state championships in 1976. somebody who would have been a figure who had tremendous authority over these children. i have a 15-year-old. that is not a teenager. it's a child. that's a kid. it's a little kid to me. because my son is older than this boy was when this allegedly happened. and the idea that as parents -- you know if you've ever had your kids participate in team sports that coach is almost a surrogate parent to your children.

when we had our children playing soccer, we were at practices. we weren't traveling our children, because unfortunately we don't live in a world where you can feel 100% trust with anyone. look at the church scandals. look at the penn state scandal. >> yeah institutional failure. >> absolutely. in this case once dennis hastert was in charge of the house of representatives, there was also the question of whether he did all he could when the mark foley scandal took place. those kids were 16 years old. >> well right. that's part of it. it's like here's a guy who was helping lead the charge and impeaching bill clinton. saying the president lied under oath in an attempt to cover up wrong doing. dennis hastert may have been abusing his power. and also push for a constitutional amendment prohibiting gay marriage. >> he was the fourth of bill clinton's pursuers to be brought up on sexual hypocrisy.

henry hyde chairman of the key committee, turns out that he had been in trouble with a sex scandal. bob livingston originally going to become the speaker of the house after newt gingrich had to quit because of a sex scandal. now you have denny hastert. four out of five. the fifth was tom delay, who was corrupt in other ways. his original nickname was hot tub tom, so there may have been some of that in his background as well. so you have an entire crew of the people who put this country through impeachment, caused a trial in the senate when everybody knew bill clinton was not going to be removed from office. they subjected the country to this. just the rankest of hypocrites. >> can i bring up something that i see as maybe a positive in all of this. barney frank brought this up. barney frank a married gay man out in the open talking today

with andrea mitchell says it is a mark of our progress that people like dennis hastert wouldn't be subject to the same kind of temptations and pressures today. this is setting aside any of the potential inappropriate sexual misconduct with the younger person. but in terms of his proclivities towards homosexuality. a man who has those feelings can express them more differently today. in a week when caitlyn jenner is on the cover of "vanity fair." it's really different than dennis hastert's day, which was, like, a decade ago. >> yeah i think that barney frank is right that that's a very good thing that's changed. i'm a little cautious in this case because the victim is so young. >> let me be clear. i am not at all comparing gay relationships to what dennis hastert had in high school with these young boys.

>> it's complicated, obviously. if you feel completely suppressed and oppressed, you might just pay that downhill. >> who knows what dennis hastert's motivations are. i think for gay men in america who felt an inordinate amount of shame, we are living in a really different world. >> i think separately from this because i'm very uncomfortable with the idea that dennis hastert -- the pressures placed by on him -- but at the same time, there were also the stories that circulated around when dennis hastert was speaker because he lived with his chief of staff and people even looking at like what is that about? so maybe on that level. but i think if this is true this is so horrific. >> let me be clear. aim not saying that dennis hastert is an example of progress in any way. all i am saying, to the degree that a man like barney frank can come out, openly gay, married and talk about homosexual

relations in this day and age, it makes me feel better about our level of tolerance when it comes to adult male homosexual relationships. >> but barney frank and dennis hastert served in congress together, right? there was probably something of an open secret. >> barney frank said today there was no scuttlebutt and he had no idea that dennis hastert was gay. so it's obviously a developing situation. jonathan alter and joy reid it's always good to see you guys. amanda, hang with me. coming up the really good thing that happened this week in hollywood academia and the u.s. military. that's next. audible safety beeping audible safety beeping audible safety beeping the nissan rogue with safety shield technologies. the only thing left to fear is you imagination. nissan. innovation that excites.

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branches of government, but does that mean that snowden can and will come home? those who know him best are not counting on it. >> he absolutely wants to be back in his country. the problem is he's not going to come back in order to spend the next three or four decades in a cage which is what the u.s. government wants to do with him. but hopefully, i think people are opening their eyes to how important this was for democracy and are starting to see him in a different light. >> joining us now is founder of lady parts justice, liz winstead. do you think that edward snowden has gotten some vindication in the last three weeks? >> yes. but i have always thought that what he did was courageous and patriotic. i am one of those. tweet away those saying i hate my country. i think when you have a government whose national security motto is i'll tap that that's problematic. >> if that was the motto, maybe people would have less of an issue with it. do you think it poses a moral

conundrum? the guy that is defending democracy is also maybe on the wrong side of the law? >> right. there's the law and there's the spirit of the times, which i think was alluded to in the top there. the fact is that people just feel very differently about this than they did 14 years ago. a story by peter baker, 77 senators voted to ratchet back the surveillance apparatus earlier this week. back in 2001 how many senators voted against the patriot act? one. something that obviously has to do with fear. very afraid as a country after 9/11. i think it has to do with all the other ways because of the growth of mobile technology, the way that thinking about our own personal data and how it gets captured and used is much more sophisticated and people are more tuned in to the ways in which they can be surveilled and monitored.

i think they're more -- they're smart about it. >> i want to go to that sort of thesis that jake mentioned, which is are we living in a -- are we truly living in a sort of post-post 9/11 generation? i mean is there a whole -- do you think that society is changing and becoming less fearful, or at least not as alarmed about terrorism and terrorist activities as it was in the months days and few years after 9/11? >> absolutely. without any doubt. for instance, killing osama bin laden and finding out he was a feeble manmade it seem a little silly. a little silly that we've been so afraid for so long. >> we have news of isis and plots and home grown terrorists and lone wolves and those are constantly in the ether. do you think we're becoming numb to that? >> you know, maybe numb, but i think some of us are beginning

to see the constant churning of be afraid be afraid is like propaganda. which i think in a lot of ways it is. isis -- you know they're a big deal, but i don't know that they're as much of a threat to us as some on the right would like. >> well, they're terrifying. but does that mean that they are a terrorist threat that can be disassembled through a blanket surveillance state. i guess when we talk about who has the data there's a second question, though. do you feel more comfortable with verizon and google having your personal data, your metta data than you do with federal workers having it? >> i think yeah. when i think about this i think less about isis because i feel like those are -- i feel like those are threats, than i do about how people get access to personal things and how those personal things are used. i look at kids who grew up in a facebook generation who are

very tech savvy and able to crack codes, who are also bullies. do i want tomorrow's bullies to be able to do that? i maybe i feel cynical about human nature, but i feel like if you are a literally blanket looking at innocent people when do you go i'm going to get a sandwich and listen to this leisurely. i don't know the answer to that. >> it's also a problem of our own creation. someone who's going to have information, which is to unplug. >> i think we've become resigned to the idea that we will give up a certain amount of personal freedom. we just have sort of a default setting that we're okay with

that. and that's being just relentlessly taken advantage of by the companies that make a lot of money on people. i do think we're resigned to that. >> will this be an awakening that i think our society truly needs, that you can't just always think about yourself every time you -- we know that the world is so global. like will it expand to if i get this convenience, then everyone gets the convenience, and that means that there's a lot more people i should consider in the world other than myself and what does that mean? now i'm completely contradicting myself. >> he's my last question. so far, lincoln chafee is the only person to say edward snowden should be allowed to come home. he hasn't elaborated on whether or not he is a traitor or not,

but i still feel like it's political kryptonite. i interviewed all the guys on hill who are working in the wake of edward snowden to reform our surveillance state. no one will say he has done a good thing for the country. >> right. and part of that is because even though a victory was scored this week for, you know for snowden and those who agree with him that it's unconstitutional, that all these overreaches have taken place, the fact is that even after the bulk collection of phone records was ruled unconstitutional, the vast majority of the surveillance apparatus is still in place. >> and growing. if we're to believe "the new york times." >> it's a minor victory this week. >> but it's a start. i mean it is a start. and it was bipartisan. and that's something. liz. cynic that you are. >> no, i'm not. i just want to say chafee is the

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the chiens government is denying allegations that it could be behind what is one of the largest data breaches in u.s. history. the data breach compromised the personal records of at least 4 million current and former federal employees. although the white house won't assign blame to china, u.s. officials believe the cyber attack was launched from there. the hack comes at a troubled time for u.s.-chain relations. against u.s. warnings, china is building artificial islands in international waters in the

south china sea. islands china is equipping with aircraft runways and mobile artillery. joining me now is senior fellow for china studies director of the digital and cyber space program adam segal, and glen thrush. so adam, let me start with you first. what can you tell us about the breach, and what the motivation would be in terms of trying to access millions and millions of federal employee records. >> right now, all we really know for sure is that the attacker seemed to be based in china. and that the data that they gathered could be used either for criminal purposes or for espionage. who directed them. who actually wants all that data, we're still uncertain. >> we think this data may have been connected to the same group of people who hacked into two big health insurance groups in the u.s. anthem and primera. what do you see as the motivation? what sort of calm cause could they have with federal records and health insurance records? >> it seems that one of the

things the hackers want to do is trick you into opening an e-mail. clicking on a pdf link. opening a file. so one of the ways they can do that is collect as much data as they can about you so they can really specialize in the e-mail that they send you that then tricks you into opening it. so we think they're building a database on americans, particularly americans who work for the federal government. >> glen i guess i wonder -- we were having this major national debate about the security state, the surveillance blanket. some part of that some little corner of that blanket is being rolled back. do you think stories like this change or shape public opinion in the converse which is to say sort of make people think well wait a second, wait a second should we be rolling back these sort of surveillance mechanisms if the chinese are actively trying to thwart us or gain access to our top records? >> it is a really interesting dynamic. you know, we had this very involved debate over the collection of metta data which for -- if we believe what the government is telling us doesn't involve sort of

individual records. here we have a massive loss. and we've seen this as an extension of those two health insurers, which i think we're talking north of 50 to 80 million social security numbers that are now in the hands of these hackers, which dwarves any potential damage that presumably has been done on the metta data stuff. so to some extent we've been concerned about this trickle and we're really dealing with this torrent. the issue here is whether or not the stuff really begins to be used against people. if we see this operationalized, either from a national security perspective or people start losing money, i think then they'll pay attention. right now, it just seems to be more of an abstraction. >> what is the best way to respond to a breach like this? i mean, we know the u.s. has publicly held china accountable last year charging the chinese army with hacking. is that a deterrent, or is that just us trying to regain some sense of our -- like, replace the ego that may have been sort of broken by allowing such a

breach? >> we're trying to shame the chinese and that's not working. we indicted these hackers and the hacking has not decreased at all. this spring, the president passed an executive order that allows him to sanction individuals and to sanction the companies that benefit from the theft of this data or other things that the chinese have been going after. so we'll have to wait and see if the next step is to actually go after companies or units. >> glen, i am struck by the fact that the white house would not say that this was the chinese. i think xi jingping is coming to the white house in december. we don't want to endanger public bilateral lerelations, but this is an issue. it's a very bad move. >> it's a huge issue. i remember certain secretary of state, during the first obama term have talked about the pivot to china.

i can't recall what her name might be. and this is clearly going to be an issue that hillary clinton or the next whoever else the next president might be is going to be inherit. i think on a debate stage certainly against a republican if hillary is there, it's an entirely legitimate question to ask her, both on the issue of currency manipulation which has been a huge sore point between the two countries for time and memorial, and this why she didn't get tougher, why she didn't spearhead more of a policy. i think that is a legitimate question to ask her. >> well right. lindsey graham said today, i fear a cyber pearl harbor is increasingly more likely if we do not invest in the necessary infrastructure to protect our nation. is that misplaced sort of fear monger mongering, or do you think it's legit? >> i think it's misplaced. the idea of some cyber pearl harbor, of some attack coming out of nowhere is not what we have to be worried about. we have to worry about the daily attacks that are a thousand cuts that steal our data that steal

our intellectual property. we're not doing well on that either. we're clearly falling behind. >> thank you guys for your time. happy weekend. coming up he has got two and a half minutes to make history. all eyes will be focused on the belmont stakes tomorrow as american pharaoh tries to grab the triple crown. we will get a preview after the break.

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against what many called the most talented derby field in decades. two weeks later in baltimore, he overcame a deluge to win the preakness in convincing fashion. >> american pharaoh and victor espinoza have won the preakness! >> reporter: now just one win from history, he'll have to run in the longest race of his life a mile and a half over one of the sport's toughest tracks. one they call big sandy. but while american pharaoh heads into uncharted territory, his trainer bob bafrtfert has been in this position three times before winning the first two jewels of the triple crown, only to come up short at the belmont. pharaoh's jockey is victor espinoza and if his name sounds familiar that's because he rode california chrome to this very same doorstep of history just a year ago.

both part of an unlucky club 13 horses since 1978 have won the derby and preakness before falling short of the triple crown. and if american pharaoh bucks almost four decades of history, he'll have to fend off many fresh contenders, including frosted and materiality. they and five others will look to spoil the triple crown dream of american pharaoh. to ensure that this race lives up to its name. >> that was nbc's josh elliot. coverage of the belmont stakes begins at 2:30 p.m. eastern on nbc sports. that is all for now. "the ed show" is up next. good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show." live from detroit lakes, minnesota. let's get to work!

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