commercials and try to get back. we start in 2006 april 5th 2006. this is central louisiana. this is dash cam video from a police car. it says on the dash cam, you see that it was 113 degrees that day. i don't think that's right. it was a hot day, but i don't think that's right. what's happening is that the police officer there on the left has just been advised a couple of hours earlier that a nearby maximum federal security had an escape. so this police officer in the video and every other police officer is looking for the

escapee and they come across this guy jogging along a railroad track. he is carrying no id and matches the physical description of a man that just escaped from nearby, and this encounter between the police officer and that man that was jogging by the railroad lasts about ten minutes. you might think it's stressful for the officer looking for the es cap pea and in this case, it was not stressful at all. >> what is your address? >> i do not have an address. >> we're working on houses and stuff like that like roofing. >> roofing. okay. >> for my brother. >> okay. all right. what it is is that we have an escapee. >> from where? >> prison.

>> does the suspect wear glasses? >> nothing about glasses. >> can you find out. i am out with a white male on the tracks. the bad thing about it is that you're matching up to him. >> that sucks, doesn't it. >> yeah. that sucks. the guy that the police officer was speaking to was the escapee from the federal prison. the cop did stop him and talk to him for about ten minutes. the guy did recognize the police officer -- the police officer did recognize that the guy matched the escape convicts description, but they talked for ten minutes and he let him go. that says something remarkable to the cop in that situation. unless you think that the cop

was only one to blame here, it should be note that had the guy that he was dealing with was really really good at escaping all sort of law enforcement officers. that guy that was jogging along had escaped from federal prison that day. maximum security, but that was the third time that he escaped from prison or jail. the first time was in north dakota in 1988. he was aresd on suspension of murder. he was in a room with three detectives and hand cuffed him to a chair, and had a tube of lip balm and the three detectives in the room with him and somehow reached into the pocket and used it to grease up the wrist and slip out and then ran out of the room with the three detectives chasing him, and got away. that was the first time. he ran five blocks.

stole a car. drove until the car stalled out and hid in an apartment building. a long article in the new york er says that it was a report er from the daily news that saw him sneaking into the apartment building that day. the report er called the police and told them where it was. he climbed out of the window and lucked in to the tree. it was only because he could not hold on that he felle and they took him back into custody. was from the north dakota state prison. that happened in 1992. in that case he somehow got himself into a ventilation duck and wiggled his way free to the outside. in that case he did not caught right away. he was gone for ten months before finding him. they did find him, and then the next place he locked up from and then escaped was in louisiana the maximum federal security prison.

having escaped from two other facilities already by the time that the feds had had. he must have been casing the joint immediately. he mouf been casing it the whole time before he figured out how he was going to get into that. the way that he escaped was intrep. he got a job which was repairing and sewing mail bags. in the course of that he figured out a way to mail himself. he sealed himself up and got himself mailed to freedom. got into a mail bag and mailed him to a warehouse and busted out that he sealed himself into and got himself an energy drink and went off down the railroad tracks.

>> put yourself in my position. >> yeah, i know. >> i am not throwing you against. >> do you think that i am a prison escapee. >> think about it. they have years and years. >> now, when i crossed the track i saw you running and i said well, how lucky can i be? >> no, nope. nope. i am not a prison es cap pea. you would have ran by now. you know that yourself. you would have ran by now. >> had he stood there speaking in an accent not his own and making small talk with the cop and then the cop told him to go. he warned him that he might get stopped again. that was in 2006.

that guy that escape from all of the facilities and that facility that day is richard lee mctheir. after he got away from north dakota in federal prison and then the cop, he did stay out for a while. he did live free for another year and a half and caught up to him 18 months after breaking out of the prison in louisiana. they caught up with him 18 months later. have no idea how he got from louisiana to brunswick. that's where he caught him in 2007. they caught him because the . the tint job was so bad that they thought that was reason enough to see who it was in the car. >> richard has a long history as an escape artist. he made his way out of a prison

last year by mailing himself to freedom. he has been on the run ever since until yesterday. police here spotted a suspicious van driving around the city, and what tipped them off was is that van was tinted black. they asked the driver to step out and it was mcknarr. >> this guy was an amazing escape artist. richard lee mcnair. he escaped everywhere that they locked him up. he got away 400 meters running from the canadian cops in the end. he would escape and get caught. escape and get caught. that's the thing here. no matter how good that you are and no matter how amazing and the skill or luck or violence goes into the escape, these guys that escape, they also get caught.

in 2008 it was a prison in michigan city and they got out and lasted a few days before all three of them were recaptured. in 2008 it was in new mexico. eight guys escaped all at once. they went up pipes in the prison wall and popped out through the roof. eight guys all at once and all recaptured. in 1999, it was a rare escape from death row at the louisiana state pen. they smuggled blades of the doors and cells. they did not make it off the prison grounds before recaptured. even the famous daring helicopter escapes. those guys get caught too. this one was a year ago today. remember this one. it landed on the prison ground and picked them up and flew away.

they got caught and within a couple of weeks they were back in the prison where they escaped. the last one was in 2003 from a maximum security prison in new york. two convicted murders in that prison and a complex plot. they got sledge hammers and other tools to bust holes, and then made the amazing dummies. they propped the dummies in the bed and looked like they were sleeping when they came to check on them. they went up and out of the prison through the ventilation shaft in 2003. they still had to get over the walls after the shaft. for that they yaused torn bed sheets they made into a rope. because of what they had the do the rope that they made was 61 feet long. that was amazing.

that must have taken them months or years to plan that escape in new york in 2003, but even with all of that planning and complexity the success that they got out, they were back in custody in two days. they get caught. as much thought and effort comes into the average maximum security prison escape, it seems like it's not a long term victory. they get caught. right now we're in that between the time when two maximum security prisoners were discovered missing from the cells and we're between that time and everybody expects is the news of the capture in up state new york or across the border in canada. one of the two men that escaped is david sweat. he is 35 and a man who he shot 22 times and ran over while the deputy was still alive. the other escapee is richard map

that's serving life for dismembering a man in buffalo, new york. after that murder and before he was arrested, richard fled to mexico and while in mexico killed another man there. served nine years in a mexican prison before coming back to u.s. to face the earlier murder in buffalo. richard matt has a history too. e has a history of not just fleeing before he could get arrested, but having escaped from custody. in 1986 the same guy was in jail and he got out of the cell when they popped the lock on the cell door and scaled a nine foot tall. he got cut up in the process, and got out.

he spent five days at large before he was captured again. now he is out again. and now this massive manhunt is under way with the clinton correctional facility. the focus is on figuring out how the two murders were able to escape from clinton and how they got power pools that they use to saw through the cell walls and get in to the steam pipe that lead to a nearby neighborhood that they popped out through a manhole cover. the focus is figuring out how they got out and the pressing question of whether or not they had help. there are some reports that a female employee that worked inside might have been involved somehow in the escape efforts. seeing how they did it and stop it from happening again and if there's a huge breech, that's job one, right?

no, that's job two. these two are still ton loose. they were discovered missing and so job one is finding them. if pass is prolonged, they will be found. it's a question of when. just outside of the prison. >> of course, thank you. what can you tell us about the status of the investigation and the specifically the search and how they're trying to find the guys and how it's going? >> well, i mean it's ongoing. there's been rumors flying all day that places they have been seen. there's a number of lawyer enforcement agents that entered a house and a barn. they did not have seem to have found anything. it's one of the situations where apparently the police have

received over 300 leads. they're try to go track them down. that's a pain stacking process and starting the weak is taking a little while. at the same time, there's investigation ongoing inside of the prison behind me as to how the guys did this. >> there have been some reports today that there's at least the possibility that someone that worked inside of the prison helped them in some way. can you pit anything on whether that seems credible? >> reporter: we were able to confirm that today and there's investigation of a female employee that may have had relationship or the kind with the inmates richard matt. beyond that there's not a lot of details. there's some talks that she may work in the laundry room of the facility. in a maximum security prison behind me, you're talking several thousand prisoners and a huge support staff. you have people that do the landry and janitorial services

and training and all sorts of things that go into a prison of this size. there's a lot of interaction between the prisoners and civilians. the investigators think that one of the relationships went too far and helped with the escape. >> in terms of the way that they got out, we have seen a lot of frankly up close pictures of the means by which they got out of the cells and the steam pipe. is its clear what kind of tools that they need and what kind of tools that they use and get access from that cell block? >> if it's clear, they're not making it clear to us. in talking to the people and the cuts if you look and see the way that the cuts go along the wall, the cell block wall and the pipes that they climbed through.

i talked to a couple of guys and said that was a grind er. this was not a sloppy job. they knew what they were doing when they made the cut. as to how they got the equipment, that's a major ongoing point of the investigation. there was a lot of construction going on in the facility at the time. there was crews coming and going and therapies that one of the contractors was in on it or left a piece of equipment behind and continued to cut the hole. >> justin with the new york times outside of the clinton correctional facility. thanks for helping us understand that. >> absolutely. thank you. >> it's interesting. yes, they have been escapes

before, but there's not that that there's a protocol. the town has a small er population than the prison population than the very large and old prison up against the canadian border. to see the scale of it to find these guys is just -- i mean it's an impressive response. until they find them, it's not impressive enough. these guys will be found. we don't know how long they have been on the land, but they will be found if history is here. lots more tonight. stay with us. you can use splenda®... ...no calorie sweetener. splenda® lets you experience... ...the joy of sugar... ...without all the calories. think sugar, say splenda®

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a rule of campaigning was violated this weekend. it was not putting funny stuff on top of your head when you're running for president. if we have noted this rule once, but it's a million times. do not put stuff on your head. do not do this. do not do this. don't do it. it's been a rule for a long time for a reason. it's important. that rule was violated this weekend very badly. details coming up.

there's one candidate that held elected office as a democrat, republican. there's one that's held office as all three of those things and the only candidate that's certained the public as a mayor were and as a governor and as a u.s. senator. same guy. he is lincoln the first ever american ever candidate in the great state of rhode island. he is rung as democrat for president this year, and he is going to be my guest here tomorrow night for interview. looking for ward to that conversation.

looking forward to interviewing as many as i can. that means bernie sanders, martin, i have high hopes for getting him on the time soon. hillary clinton, yeah. i once saw her in washington and said hello and literally that's all that i said. other than that, i have never spoken to any clinton, bill, hillary or chelsea or socks or buddy. i live in hopes that we will be able to get all of the candidates on the show during this campaign this year. unless you deserve its. come on. on the republican side, it's going to be hard because there's so many of them. so many shows in the year and

the next formal announcement is set to be a week from today. jeb bush is going to make the presidential announcement on monday next week and then donald trump making his announcement and then bobby making his announcement the following wednesday. to the list of contend ers. as form er wisconsin governor said that he would be making his early next month. he say that is with the wisconsin state budget, the presidential announcement will come soon there after. we know to expect niez from scott walk er. this weekend i thought for a hot minute that maybe walker would not run for president because he flat out violated the i am running for president rule. he rented this o and could have

he did not. he went with the snow globe look. you know, maybe scott walker is okay here. maybe wearing a new one where they're in a funny get up and it's broken and does not apply anywhere after governor chris christie wowed everyone in his get up. still, you don't have to do this. somebody loves you, right? somebody in your lives and your family. somebody on your campaign and somebody should tell you not to give the world the opportunity to take picture of you like this. not when you're running for

president. one more on the democratic sides, and it concerns bernie sanders and hillary clinton. this is in new hampshire where a crowd of a thousand people crammed into a tiny local rec hall to hear him speak t. crowd was loud and large with every seat filled and folks standing in the aisle. a thousand people turned out. this is not the first time that this thing has happened with bernie sanders. over the last couple of weeks he has attracted sold out crowds when he announced and in new hampshire, iowa, minnesota and with all of the positive press the sold out crowds are earning senator sanders. hillary clinton campaign is showing the crowds and today the hillary clinton campaign sent this out with a whole series of the photos from the events in the country, arkansas, missouri, salt lake city, utah.

they want it to be known that they're running in the office, and organizing in the states. people are turning out to get involved and in every state of the country and yes she is running basically all alone in the national pole. she is so far ahead and she is the favorite to win the nomination on the democratic side, but with what is going on with bernie sanders is a real thing. there is bernie sanders at the pact event and telling the crowd i have a secret. that secret is that we're going win new hampshire. he is saying that i am going to win the new hampshire primary. there's a headline out of this weekend and saying that clinton seeks out a win. what? 252 votes. what does that mean? hillary clinton 49 and sanders 41 percent. >> i am sure that the clinton

campaign is not worried about the nomination. senator bernie sanders role in the race is clearly going to be a lot more fun this year than if he was a candidate confined. he is making the race on the side more fun than we thought it would be and less predictable. that's good for everyone in the process including clinton and the liberals in the democratic party. now, let's see what he can do here on this show tonight. stay with us. helps you be an unstoppable, i-can-totally-do-this- all-in-one-trip kind of woman. when pain tries to stop you, there's motrin. motrin works fast to stop pain where it starts. make it happen with new motrin liquid gels.

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sometimes the states get cooky and then speaking it's not that surprising that some go a little nuts. louisiana you voters voted that they will keep on the books the state's law. it's illegal to ban sodomy in the country and has been for a long time. louisiana legislature likes the sodomy laws, so they decided to keep it regardless of the supreme court and all of that. another example is a big long segment on the show on why it is in bars in utah they used to have to serve you in bottles instead of letting someone pour the booze for you. they do not do that anymore, but have laws on who is allowed to

touch liquor and who is allowed to see other people touching it. republicans are trying to pass a law that would deny the marriage licenses to interracial couples if they wanted to like they used to. people that were denied a license have been screaming blood de murder and going back where they got to decide who was allowed to get married or not based on the own religious views. the legislature vetoed it and putting it into law. we have been watching it for the past few days, and it was in the docket and twice last week and again tonight.

at the did not take it up again tonight before the session was closed. it's back on tomorrow. north carolina may take the plunge. north carolina local officials is can say no, i won't marry you because you're a jew and that's against or you're black and i am white. that's my religious belief. that change in the law is still on deck. we will keep on watching it. even as we keep on watching that there's a new contend er that catches louisiana governor. this is kansas governor and he is known for blowing up the state's finances and blowing up the budget of hundreds of millions of dollars. it keeps on getting the credit rating down and having to furlough state employeeing and school districts had to shut

down early because they ran out of money and could not keep the public schools opened through the end of the school year. in the mists of that crisis that sam brown created and it's now a crisis, sam brown has still found time to be shocking and very ambitious in a whole new way. it was the justy and how they wants them to rule on a face. there's a case before the kansas court and this new bill says that unless they rule the way in the case, he will abolish the kansas court system. he will do the whole thing unless they rule the way that he wants them to in this one case. now, we mentioned this a couple

of weeks ago and i was so shocked to hear that it excited. i mentioned it as like dad, do you believe that some legislatures somewhere is considering something outrageous. never in my wild dreams would i pass and law. if you rule this way, i will defund the entire court system. enjoy the independence. amazing. between that and the way that kansas republicans blue up. the unlikely state of kansas is the most radical state in the country. wait there's more. sam brown took it one step further today. no, hillary clinton last week made news when all states should

register. everybody should just be reng -- she wants early voting. that would be a mitch simplier system than what we have now. it would put millions of people on the polls. candidates are scott walker and john and chris christie from new jersey have reacted and said that it would be absurd to make it that easy. she just wants an opportunity to create greater acts of voter fraud around the community. >> hillary clinton mentioned you and saying that you're trying to make it hard er for people to vote. what is your reaction to that? >> she does not know what she is

talking about. i do not want to expand it and expand fraud. maybe that's what she wants to do. i don't want to do that. maybe she took some questions some places and learned some things, she would not make ridiculous statements. >> it's the idea that there's a lot of collection fraud. >> i guess that she has never been to new jersey. >> it's true that it's known for having a ton of corruption among it's politicians. new jersey is not known for wide spread er fraud. no state is. one of the leading voices of the wright and saying that there's a ton of voter fraud is the secretary of the state chris coback. he has some of the strict er

voting rules in the country and all based on that there's massive voter fraud and that elections are being stolen all of the time with huge amounts of voter fraud. the explanation on the prisons and the voters is that local prosecute ers will not prosecute people even though that there's a ton of it because they're all in on it or something. chris kobach has champion voting because he knows that there's tons and tons of voter fraud, he cannot get people to arrest people and charge them and put them on trial for the things that he knows he is doing. sam brown back fixed that and let the crusading secretary of the state bring them. he has not been able to persuade them to bring the voter fraud cases that he knows about. so now kansas governor says that chris can bring them himself. he can be the prosecute er and end the run around that part of

the process which would be the most radical thing being done in the state now if it were not. either way sam gets the record but the only competition is himself. joining us now is the political report er for the star. thanks so much for being here. >> great to be here rachel. >> i think that outside ers or one outsider over here marbles at the changes under governor brown back and the positions. how does it feel in kansas. how is this being received in kansas? >> well, many many moderate kansas republicans are agast at what is going on. we may compete with north carolina or south carolina for the most conservative state in

the country and maybe louisiana. there's no question that kansas has moved the furthest from the center right where it was decades to this very far ride and conservative posture and others. you see that in the legislature and that's wrestling as you speak and spending and the bills that the governor signed about the courts that you talked about and the law all reflect a very conservative and remember that kansas made the headlines for limiting the welfare for $25 a day at the atm machine. now, they have changed that because they realized that it might violate the law. it's part of a pattern in this state to be very very conservative and today was just the latest example of that. >> the thing that is striking to me is that it's not just that it's conservative. for a lack of a better term, it's waxy. the idea of defunding the whole

court system unless the georges rule in a specific way on a special case. i don't -- maybe that's conservative but it seems like just a very radical and revolutional take to the state government. >> it's meant to send a signal. it's not about just this case. they're trying to send a signal this they should not rule against it when they come to funding against the state's schools. that's at the crocks of the budget in the state of kansas. the supreme court is aggressive in telling lawmakers that you have to spend more on schools in this state. the election bill is about sending a signal. it's not about voter prowl. it's about the voter suppression and they believe that. it's about sending a signal to

voters that if you think that you're not registered property, you should stay away there the polls because you may net prosecuted. they will pick the cases and send the messages and we will see if it impacts the turn out. not only in kansas but across the country. we're seeing it play out here. >> it's amazing. kansas has a very deep history of radicalism, in the first 20th century they were seemed a rat i can radical and now it's different. great to have you here tonight. >> you bet. we have two heads of alaska. one is adorable and the other stay with us.

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they arrested him last summer and accused him of being a spy. he's now having some kind of trial, but the courtroom is closed to the public and to the press. his mother and his wife have both gone to tehran to try to see him, to try to attend the proceedings, but they will not let them into the courtroom. his first day in court was a reading of the charges against him. that was a few weeks ago. today all we know is that he was back in court. he was in court for three hours apparently. one iranian news outlet reported that he defended himself in english and that his remarks were translated for the judge. but that's all we know. that's all we are allowed to know. washington post bureau chief in iran having a nightmare trial behind closed doors. no date yet for his next hearing. no actual defense being mounted for him. no allowed press coverage.

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we gave you something lovely out of alaska a few minutes ago in the show. a local moose family straight up frolicking in a sprinkler, having a good, moose family time. baby moose playing in sprinklers, you're welcome. thus fortified, however, let's consider another thing happening in alaska right now. this is the facebook page for the alaska fish and game. it is a great resource if you didn't feel ready for the dipped

net salmon fishing derby. they have you covered with a four-part series on the subject. they also have psas. make the right call. do not touch orphaned wildlife. listen, bucko, there's probably animal parents you don't see, you don't want to end up on the business end of a mama. this new information from them is so important. quote, this past week. the alaska fish and game received messages about arctic lamb fry. it's like an eel, but it's not an eel. born in freshwater and they make their way to the ocean before returning to freshwater to spawn. and now we have reports of these fish falling from the skies. it's raining lampreys.

go outside, find a lamprey in your yard, sounds funny until you see their face. ah! until you see them right up close. this is their face! this is what has been raining down from the skies in alaska. this is the face of death from above. i would rather a shark fall from the sky than one of these tapeworm suckers. it's apparently seagulls' fault? maybe it turns around and looks at them with that terrifying face and the gull drops it on your lawn. that's probably why arctic lampreys have been turning up on people's lawns. pure nightmare fuel!

don't look up, little moosies. don't look up, don't look up! >> that's it for us tonight. sorry you'll be up all night. sorry you'll be up tomorrow night between now and then. "first look is" is up next. it is tuesday, june 9th. police look into accomplices and new clues. the surreal scene inside a wal-mart addss two shoppers get into a knockout. good evening. it has been three days. they could be any way. no sign of two convicted killers that escaped from a maximum security prison in new york state. the hunt after cross international borders.