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now, wait until he explains he wants to try out the policies on the entire country. that does it for "the cycle." have a great weekend. now with alex wagner starts now. democrats secured a defeat for president obama. hillary clinton is asking america to allow her to reintroduce herself. it's friday june 12th. this is "now." hillary has been in bubble wrap for the past three months. >> i'm back! >> they want to reintroduce her as hillary rodham. >> the speech will be very personal. >> don't you someday want to see
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a woman president of the united states of america. >> when she puts that political helmet on that facade goes. >> citizens you will elect me. i will be your leader. >> this time it's personal. that could be the new slogan as she prepares to reintroduce herself to the american public with her first big campaign rally. it reaches way back to the 70s suggesting clinton will tell her story on far more intimate terms than in the past while answering the big why behind her second bid for the white house. >> what is fighter? to me a fighter someone who won't give up. >> to me a fighter is someone who is passionate about what they believe in.
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>> before secretary of state, senator, first lady of the country. >> she was just a caring young, bright, creative student who cared about children and those left behind. >> joining me now reporter with the new york times jeremy peter. chief political correspondent for politico and from washington democratic strategist kiki mcclain. it's been a long time since anybody has seen hillary rodham. i agree with chuck todd. i feel like that's who is being presented this saturday. what do you think? >> i think the american people will hear from hillary rodham clinton and her whole life. it's really about a couple of questions the american people have about people who ask for the opportunity to lead.
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who's side are you on. what are you going to do about it? i expect there will be policy in terms of the kinds of things she's talk about as the campaign moves forward. at the end of any day a campaign is a choice. one of the terrific things to remember is there is this life of public service and sometimes some folks forget it's not about a reintroduction but we have a lot of americans who are voting for the first time this cycle. it's good for everybody to see and hear the whole picture and maybe not just what other people would like to have you hear. >> glen, even for people who are very familiar with the clintons this is a side of hillary that i think most folks are not that familiar with. a time working for the children's defense fund and we're told she's going to speak with more specificity about the story of her own mother who had a difficult and troubled
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childhood. this is not a very personal hillary in way most americans are not used to. >> what's interesting is they have done this before? this was part of the roll out strategy in 2007. i can recall a washington post article that was written about how she was going to emphasize her mother's story. how she was going to emphasize her own middle class roots. we have seen this before. what thought was interesting about -- >> we haven't heard the speech so go ahead. >> this is something they have been playing for a while. they have been talking about how they want to portray her as a fighter. how they want to portray her as somebody who gets up off the canvass. it's the first time they led with her defeat on health care in 1993. >> they were on it. >> they with your talking about how this loss shaped her political career in a positive way. >> it's interesting very little time is spent talking about her
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time as secretary of state. it would be like her first credentials you would present. that's almost the work done is an afterthought. the only thing we're told is she took that job after she lost to barack obama. she said he won. i lost. then we're giving this narrative of how big of her is the lesson we're supposed to take away is she would take a job working for her former rival. >> or to remind americans of the rather spotty record the administration had had on foreign policy. to glen's point about hillary focusing on her background and middle class roots, what's different about this time around is all the republicans are talking about that too.
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scott walker, marco rubio. they are all emphasizing their backgrounds. american dream stories. they can talk pretty convincingly on this stuff. i'm not talking about the policy. i think you can have a serious debate over whether or not the policies match the rhetoric but in terms of pure rhetoric, republican candidates are pretty good at talking about this. >> i think the intention may have been there in 2007 and 2008. this feels different. >> there's another big difference this time. that difference is $25 million in speeches in the last 18 months. we have a guilded presence here. >> i think some folks will say this is her attempt to switch the narrative off the clinton money-money mak making machine.
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they made $35 million last year. here is a story about honest roots and it's a completely different narrative than people have been chewing on. >> people can analyze until the cows come home the motivation of why a particular video is made or speech is given. this is the story of her life. these are the facts of her life. people want to know two things about the person who asked to be president. where did you come from? who are you and what will you do for me? >> tomorrow is an event and a speech that begins the journey of the campaign. >> it's a big deal. >> it is a big deal. what i want to remind you is it's a big deal but it's also it doesn't end with the speech is over tomorrow. there's time for a lot of discussions. her tenure as secretary of state is fairly recent. people are more familiar with that. it's also time to fill in the
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rest of that picture for the american voter. that's what tomorrow's really about. to really understand what motivates her. what she wants to do for the country and really what this fight's all about. >> matt what about the policy stuff? you get really too remarkably different assessments of whether or not hillary clinton is a progressive populist or voicing support. >> i think what's most striking about all this is there's no policy in his speech and this emphasize. we're going to hear her story. we're kind of familiar with this person. we heard about her story. >> you may be but not every american is. >> this is what you do at the convention. this is when you do the video. you don't know this side of mitt romney. >> i feel like she's learning lessons. i feel like narrative especially for the clintons at this moment
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the something they need to present at the start. >> i think bernie sanders had a point that is there's a very controversial and an interesting trade deal. where is she on this? we have politics that are happening. stuff is happening in the middle east. that's what we know her as the person who is a tough secretary of state. what is she saying on this? to give the sketches at this time, i don't think what to do. >> i think -- >> do you may think you know hillary clinton and that's great. not all americans do. they deserve the chance to hear about that. a big part of tomorrow is also about what she wants to do for them. i think you'll begin to hear her lay out some policy. that's what campaign is about. >> glen has a fairly exhaustive piece as most are in politico magazine detailing her circle of policy advisors. it's robert putnam.
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she may not adopt everything they are saying but these are leading progressive thinkers as far as closing the gap on income inequality and dealing with ceo pay and a host of other issues. tell us for those who have not read the exhaustive article. >> it was a solid piece. not just exhaustive. >> it's a major priority for her. >> it's also what she likes to do most. she's set up a process inside the brooklyn headquarters. really make the policy shop in the clinton white house which has brought in a lot of progressive thinkers and dealt with income in equality questions. cracking down on wall street and taxization. very interesting move by bernie sanders today.
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wants to tax the top marginal rate to 50%. she's doing an awful lot of policy. how much of it are we going to see before the election? >> yeah i will note that we don't have time to play it. we wanted to play it. we're going to put it on our website. i just decided that. the man from hope, the famous convention video from bill clinton. there are similarities that you see there that you will see from the clinton campaign the third clinton campaign in the coming weeks and months. thank you for your time. after the break president obama versus his own party. the vote that put the president on the same side as house republicans. jaymie diamond tells elizabeth warren she doesn't know what she's talking about. lebron james lets it all hang out. we're going to play that on national television over and over again in slow motion ahead on now.
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president obama just lost to his own party. hours ago in a singing defeat for the administration the home overwhelmingly rejected a white house backed bill designed the pave the way for a massive 12 nation pacific trade pact. despite the fierce lobbying from the president all but 39 democrats rejected the bill. just before the vote nancy pelosi announced her opposition.
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>> i will be voting today to slow down the fast track to get a better deal for the american people. bigger paychecks, better infrastructure help the american people fulfill the american dream. >> as for what happens next moments ago the white house down played the defeat as a procedure snaffo. >> to the surprise of very few, another procedural snaffo has emerged. these kinds of entanglements are en endemic to the house of representatives. the sage of capital hill luke russert. bomb shell. what happened? >> house democrats have been taken for grant by this president since the beginning. if he thought showing up to a
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congressional basketball would move them a huge cause for labor and within the progressive community they he was sorely mistaken at the white house. this is kind of what's interesting what happened today. it deals with a lot of parliamentary procedure tools. we have taa, tpp -- >> you're losing the readings game right now. go ahead. >> tpp question mark. today an order for tpa, which is the president's ability to negotiate a trade deal that was contingent upon passing taa, trade adjustment assistance. ordinarily democrats support taa because it helps disenfranchise workers who lose their jobs because of trade deals. in this deal the afl said if we take down the taa even though we might like it it will take down the entire deal let's go for
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it. they did. all indications were nancy pe low pelosi was going to support this. >> what happened? >> she had a change of conscience. we got occasions until the point that kevin mccarthy told our house producer that pelosi changed her vote. something happened along the way. when she changed, all the democrats jumped ship. president obama is in a problem. >> they'll vote on it again. >> they'll have to get three times the amount of democrats to support than they had today. that's no easy task. >> i'm shocked at the out right anger directed at president own. keith ellison tweeted now president obama wants to talk. let's take a listen.
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>> president tried to both ill people and then impugn their integrity. i don't think it was very effective tactic. there are a number of us insulted by the approach. >> that's his own party. >> the president has never been very good at maintaining or even starting relationships on capitol hill. this has been the story of his presidency. when the history books close on the obama administration, one of the first lines and the first paragraph will be this guy just could not work with congress. >> the relationships on capitol hill. we always knew they were bad with republicans but this from the democrats seems it's beyond someone who feels scorned. this is a signature piece of history. >> it's also a reflection of where democrats are and the beating heart of what democrats are disaffected on. i think today's very momentous
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action is economic populous. it's trade deals and minimum wage deals. that's where the juice is now. that's such a remarkable transformation of this party in 20 years from the party of bill clinton. democrats are closer to ralph nator. >> i think they sense there's broad support for this. glen as far as the president, it's very weird to say that people that he was working hand and glove with including paul ryan and grover norquist. >> i remember when the titanic hit a procedural snaffo. i remember when pelosi jumped ship. obama tends to weigh in at the very last minute. he puts it off.
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he hates massaging the democrats. he hate to sort of beg for votes. he shows it. he has shown them contempt for going on five and six years. >> think about that. he shows up the day before the vote and the morning of the vote. talk about neglect. >> too little too late. i thought they would hand him such a stinging defeat on such a priority. >> i think it speaks to the lack of good council in the white house. you don't send the president into the jaws of defeat. >> he said if you vote against this, you're voting against me. >> and they have. >> like don't mess with the aura. he's a lame duck president. >> yesterday did it feel like this was going to pass. did it feel like it might be advisable to send the president to the hill? >> i think all indications were
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it's definitely picking up momentum because nancy pelosi had been silent on it and the indications we got is she was going to go along with the taa vote. her number two supporter as did jim, her number three. something happened along the way. there's speculation as to whether or not it had to do with an amendment about climate change and the ability for that not to be discussed. >> republicans adding language that the democrats didn't like. >> she stands up and says if the senate was not allowed to put these amendment and she took it in a parliamentary procedure manner. i'm shocked she would do this knowing that it was really going to slam president obama. as someone who has wamped her for the last six years, look at her on the floor. she's uncomfortable. you can see her getting the courage as the speech goes on and she's like am i going to do it and then she does it.
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my gosh, did the dominos fall in the form of a huge democratic opposition to something they would ordinarily support. >> what is hillary clinton, i think a lot foefklks have pointed this out, she's not said anything on this. >> i'm sure she's thrilled. >> maybe she doesn't have to say anything. >> i think this gives her a huge pass. for somebody who is answering questions about nafta, she has to be glad this is off the table. >> we're going to leave it there. luke russert, thank you as always, my friend. >> like wise. coming up a major development in the search for two escaped convicts in upstate new york. we'll have more on that. allenges of keeping everyone working together can quickly become the only thing you think about.
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man hunt for two convicted killers in upstate new york. >> reporter: we're learning at this hour that the sheriff here in clinton county plans to arrest joyce mitchell within hours for aidsing ingaiding and abetting their escape. she'll be charged with allowing contraband to come into the jail. we know she had a relationship with at least david sweat. it was talk they were grooming her, befriending her to use her in the escape. we now know she will be arrested within hours according to wptz. she will behour s hours aiding and abetting the operation. they're going through it inch by
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there tired and having a possible encounter with the folks where they're not at their maximum capability. >> reporter: as we move in tonight time the weather will change. it will get colder. the conditions may worsen. it's been raining all day today. it's been raining all week. we'll have to keep an eye on the conditions as they change. back to you. >> thanks for that update. just ahead, is this how you would want to fly. right. more on the boeing dream liner's extreme take off is next.
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issues an apology that could win the nobel prize for insincerity. this is a near vertical take off. is it something any flier wants to experience? the ongoing feud between elizabeth warren and jamie dimon. senator warren fired back. >> the problem is not that i don't understand the global banking system. the problem for these guys is that i fully understand the system and i understand how they make their money, and that's what they don't like about me. joining the panel now is communications director for emily's list the great jess mcenmc mmc mcintosh.
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>> he's writing the textbook on it now. mansplaining gets tossed around when a man is being a jerk to a woman. it has a specific definition. what that is is a man explaining something or suggesting that a woman doesn't understand an issue in which she is an expert. that's exactly what jamie dimon did. nobody in congress understands the global banking system better than senator elizabeth warren. she's a harvard professor. the idea that she doesn't understand is so absurd it goes beyond your average i'm going to say something mean, which he has to many, many other people. >> dictionary definite. >> i'm sure glen knows better
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than i do what the definition is. >> i have to let you respond to that. >> let me tell you. >> he's just going to leave it there. that's glen's line for the mansplaining. >> can i stand up for man kind. >> the gender man kind. before we label this guy a sexist. maybe he's an arrogant jerk. >> do you agree with jess? i think laid out in why specifically this is mansplaining. >> i don't think every time man starts a debate with a woman -- >> he wasn't doing that. >> it needs to be put in this sexist comment. >> jess you can respond to that. i think there's a difference. >> i was saying there are ways guys can be jerks to women.
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it's explaining a woman who is an expert in topic. i believe you're right. he's probably an arrogant jerk. they can employ the tactic of man splaining. >> should we assume an academic -- there are free speech academics who say the worse nonsense. they specialize in this but don't work in the field. it's possible a regulator, someone who specialized this doesn't understand what happens. she's the most qualified person to talk about banking in congress. that doesn't mean she understands or anyone -- >> the global financial. >> that's the point.
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these institutions intentionally make these financial products complex of the people don't understand them. it's a key issue. >> matt has written about the level of education. the level of sort of familiarity with global banking in the senate. it's most of them have no con conceptions of the derivatives market and that's obvious. >> it's true of every category you can come up with. >> i think she knows something about global banking. warren buffet said i think she would do better if she was less angry and demonizing. while i find that offensive, that i don't think qualifies as mansplaining. >> it's not.
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it's just a jerkk comment. we call women angry when they are being forceful. >> >> moving on. bio chemist said after he resigned that the trouble with female scientists is you fall in love with them. they fall in love with you and when you criticize them they cry. he followed that up with this nonapology apology. >> i didn't mean the part about having trouble with girls. it is true that people i have fallen with in the lab and the people in lab have fallen in love with me and it's very disruptive to the science. i'm really really sorry i caused any offense.
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that's awful. i didn't mean that. i just meant to be obvious. >> does that even qualify as an apology? i'm sorry if i offended you but i was just speaking the truth. >> it's like i'm sorry i hurt you feelings. it's not an apology. >> that's not an apology. i feel like he dug himself even deeper because he said i was trying to be honest. literally digs himself deeper. >> he's clearly a chick magnet. just look at the guy. if you went into a lab with him -- >> i would cry before i met him. i would know i was going to fall in love with him and he was going to break my heart. tim hunt we're never ever getting close to a petri dish together. i'm going to move on. boeing scares air travelers everywhere with this video showing the dream liner passenger jet performing a near vertical take off as part of a
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rehearsal for a trade show in paris next week. matt i feel like this is supposed to be the teaser for how much people will want to ride this. i see that and i'm going to make sure whatever plane it's not a 7 triple 7. >> i'm going to turn off the television for 24 hours as my heart rate comes down. this is why we need to get rid of the xm bank here. enough of the subsidies for this type of behavior. it's awful. no one will want the fly like that. >> it's the hillary press plan.e. just for the media. >> you have to stop showing that. it's terrifying. >> it's terrifying. nobody wants to see that. the wheels do go up very smoothly. >> what does the angle look like from the side? this looks like some camera angle trick. >> trickery says jeremy peters. >> i want to see the supplemental footage. it was a rough night for
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lebron james. the cavs lost to the warriors with two games a piece. he suffered nasty scrape during a second quarter collision with a camera man. we're going to play this clip over again. fleshed his junk in front of millions of tv viewers. i don't really have a question here. were you watching the game? >> no. i was watching twitter. immediately it was apparent that something really major had happened. >> exciting. something very exciting. gentle folk, anybody watching the game. did anybody notice when this was happening? >> no. >> i didn't know there were nba finals. >> this is the panel equivalent of a nothing burger. >> i would have been watching because this has been a great nba finals and playoffs. i was at a dinner. i couldn't see it. what is he doing there? >> he's adjusting the uniform. >> is it another wardrobe malfunction?
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if he was a woman like janet jackson. >> it's blurred out. this is a family program. i agree with you. it's not. rewind the last tape. it didn't happen. i'm going to end the panel now. >> this is not a great panel. >> that's why we invited you for persecution and prosecution. put the plane back on. thank you all for your friday thoughts. coming up identity politics. more on the naacp president in spokane, washington who's parents say she is lying about being black. that story just ahead.
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man. >> that's a very -- i mean i don't know what you're implying. >> are you african-american? >> i don't -- i don't understand the question. >> are your parents, are they white? >> that was the president of naacp in spokane, washington rachel dolezal who is under investigation for lying about her race after her parents said she had been falsely portraying herself for years as an african-american. she's a well known civil rights leader in the area identified herself as being white, black and american indian on a city job application and posted this photo of herself with an african-american man she identified as her father. her biological parents released a copy of her birth certificate showing she's their biological daughter. when asked why their daughter would do this, they appeared puzzled. >> why is your daughter
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pretending to be black? >> we can't answer that question for her. she has not explained to us why she's doing what she's doing and being dishonest and deceptive with her identity. >> we are her birth parents. we do not understand why she feels it's necessary to misrepresent her ethnicity. >> she told the seattle times yesterday there's a lot of complexities and said we're all from the african continent. >> we are all from africa. at some level we're all black or from africa. >> she's taken it to a level that most folks do not. aside from the weirdness and advisable lying on city job application forms, is there something for insidious and bad she's done? >> yes. we need white allies just like
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gay people need straight allies women need male allies but not like there. please. come to us honestly. i'm thinking about -- >> to that point you're saying if she was a white officer in the naacp that would have been more meaningful than a white officer pretending to be black. >> that would be very meaningful. the naacp should be open to white people who want to work for the cause. think about walter white, one of the original leaders who was not white but appeared white to many people. we're getting into the complexity of race. you can't always trust what you see. this is another situation like that. he was able to go into places in america that black people or black looking people could not go and bring back information about lynchings and other things that black would -- people who look black could not have gotten. he was incredibly important to the movement and naacp. rachel has brought shame on this chapter because it's all wrapped
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in this lie. i would welcome her. i had several white professors of black history in high school and in college. they cared deeply about the community. they gave me information i needed to have. they didn't lie about who they are. >> one of the more distressing aspects of her pretending is maybe this is pretending or not but she's said multiple times she's been the victim of hate crimes and hate mail. none of those assertions have been born out in terms of criminal justice or with the police and law enforcement. for someone who is caucasian by birth to bring up the most painful chapters of the african-american experience that's where it gets morally hazy right? >> yeah. every time we have one of these little hoax moments, people leave and say all racism doesn't exist. it's also a hoax. we have to work through the idea
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there are racist incidents in this world. because this hoax moment happened over here or there doesn't mean they're all a hoax. now that she's added to that thing of like i got death threats, no you actually didn't. >> i guess i wonder what does it say about our society. there were people that knew she wasn't black but they didn't check her on it. do you think there's something to be gleaned how race remains a thing that's undiscussible in certain circles. >> there's lots of people who have passed. always always from black to white. it's very rare going from white to black. i know people who love black culture so much. i knew white people who joined the black faraternity. >> or musicians going to sort of subsume themselves in the culture of black music. >> i think that jazz or soul
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music is big enough or hip hop that a white performer can make it their own. she's talking about she supposedly got ripped by something from slavery. now you're trying to link yourself directly to the peculiar institution. this is something i have to have. i have to have been beaten with something from slavery to get be a black person. >> adopting the mental of victim when she hasn't been one is the thing that bothers people the most about this. always good to see you. thank you for your time and thoughts. coming up a federal judge ordered the immediate and unconditional release of a man who has spent nearly half a century in solitary confinement. why is he still in jail? take zzzquil and sleep like... you haven't seen your bed in days. no, like you haven't seen a bed in weeks!
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we are deeply disappointed that after 40 years of incarceration under the harshest conditions possible mr. woodfox would not be released. the only outcome that could serve the interest of law and justice would be his immediate release. we are so sorry that that did not happen today. >> that was a lawyer from angola three just moments after a court of appeals ruled he must stay in jail while a court considers he must be retried for a crime committed more than 40 years ago. both convictions have been overturned and woodfox insists he's innocent. the state of louisiana is pursuing an appeal to be tried yet again for a third time. today's ruling means he will stay in jail until the appeals process is over.
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his case is especially unbelievable because he spent nearly half a century in solitary confinement, longer than any other prisoner in america. good evening. welcome to the ed show live from washington, d.c. i'm michael eric dyson. let's get to work. tonight, the final push. >> i am disappointed taa did not pass. >> obama might get one more shot ahead of tuesday to try and push this through. plus day seven. >> the two killers still on the loose. >> i believe we will catch the guys. >> later, ready for launch. >> every day americans and their families need a champion. a champion who will fight for them every single day. i