right now on "andrea mitchell reports," shark attack. two teens are lucky to be alive after being attacked by sharks off the same north carolina beach. >> we have somebody with a shark attack. >> okay. where are you at? are any of the fingers completely amputated? >> it looks like her entire hand is gone. the insider, no luck yet in finding the convicts. but the woman who was accused of helping them break out was in court today herself wearing prison stripes. >> she's the prison employee now behind bars. the district attorney says over the last 18 months joyce mitchell had an unusual relationship with convicted killers david sweat and richard matt. dynasty, another bush jumps in. trying to get people to look at his record, not his family name.

>> i'm proud of what we accomplished in florida. proud we were able to make a difference. we led. we were formed. regot results. that's what's missing from washington. and dynasty, the sequel. hillary clinton in new hampshire today proposing universeal pre-k for all 4-year-olds. >> every child should have the tools and skills to thrive in tomorrow's economy, especially those kids from our most vulnerable and at-risk communities. and good day, everyone from concorde new hampshire. i'm andrea mitchell. we're in the first primary state on the road to the white house. and by the end of today, the two biggest names in america politics are going to be running

for president as jeb bush makes it official in miami today. hillary clinton is hosting her first new hampshire rally of this campaign right here moments from now. could this be the 2016 match-up? more on that in a minute. but first, we go to north carolina where two teens are hospitalized afternoon losing limbs in separate shark attacks. the attacks took place within 90 minutes of each other on nearby beaches in north carolina. 12-year-old girl 16-year-old boy, both losing their left arms. the young girl has also also part of her left leg. here's the 911 call moments after one of yesterday's attacks. >> someone just got bit by a shark on 55th street. >> okay. where are you at? >> 55th street. oak island. >> is he alert right now? >> is he alert? is he alert? he's alert. >> okay. and can you tell me what part of his body is injured? >> his left arm. >> the beaches are open today

but beachgoers are on edge as authorities are patrolling the waters by helicopter looking for possible sightings. gabe gutierrez has more. >> reporter: two teenagers are out of surgery and in stable condition after a pair of terrifying close calls sunday on the beaches of north carolina. the first around 4:00 in the afternoon, a teenage girl losing part of her arm and possibly her leg from a shark attack in oak island just south of wilmington. an hour later another call this time a teenage boy losing his arm in another attack just a few miles from the first. both near ocean isle beach where a shark bit a 13-year-old girl on thursday. today the beaches are open but authorities are on patrol. >> we will continue to monitor them and also encourage them to maybe be a little bit more beach oriented tomorrow instead of in the water until we can get a better handle on the situation. >> reporter: in the last century there have been 90 shark attacks

in north carolina. last thursday's was the first reported in the state this season. but with others turning up in florida and hawaii already this year beachgoers this summer are on high alert. >> joining me now is chris, the fire chief of oak island north carolina. chief, thanks very much. first of all, how are these teens? how are they doing? >> well, the last report that i have is that they are both out of surgery and in stable condition at this time. >> i can see behind you that the beaches are open. why are the beaches open? a lot of us would wonder after two attacks so close to each other. >> well, we can't control what's out, you know in the ocean. the beaches are open and beachgoers are just being made you know aware of the situation and asked to be more careful and be more alert as to their surroundings.

but you know we can close the beaches if we want to but it's not going to stop swimmers from going in the water if they want to go. >> are there lifeguards there? i was told earlier that there were no lifeguards there. what is the situation today? >> there are no lifeguards on brunswick county beaches. >> and so who is warning people? how are these warnings being conveyed to beachgoers? >> well, we did have patrol of atvs out earlier. and i believe oak island water rescue is also making a couple sweeps of the beach throughout the day. and they are in a four-wheel drive truck. >> chief, do you believe that the waters are safe? what are you seeing from your overhead surveillance? what do you know about whether any other sharks are out there or not? >> well, i haven't had any reports of anything on overhead

surveillance. that's another agency that is taking care of that. that's not within the fire department's realm. but you know i can't guarantee safety in the water. you know sharks fish dolphins whales they all live in the ocean. and this beach is the atlantic ocean. so, you know we can never guarantee anybody's safety 100%. not just with sharks but with any other water injuries or boating accidents or rip tides. >> chief, thanks for joining us. obviously everyone is hope that these young people recover as best they can. what a dreadful situation. thank you, sir. and now to the manhunt. up in the northeast not that far from here the two convicted killers still on the run ten days after escaping from prison. richard matt david sweat is accused accomplice joyce mitchell made her first court appearance today. she's accuse of smuggling hacksaw blades, screw driver, a

bit, other tools into the clinton correctional facility. not the power tools. that's another theory of the case. we're also learning more about what the d.a. calls joyce mitchell's, quote, unusual relationship with the two convicts and their original escape plan. nbc's miguel almaguer has the latest. >> joyce mitchell was back in court today for a second time. she mass pled not guilty to helping two convicted murdereders escape from a maximum security prison ten days ago. the district attorney though tells us that she was involved in their escape smuggling in tools and also planning to go on the run with the men. the district attorneys say she was going to meet them at midnight at a power plant and then drive some seven hours to an undisclosed wooded location where they would live a life on the run. now, ms. mitchell will be back in court in the next couple of days, if not the next couple of weeks. still wait for a scheduling of her next court appearance. meantime that massive manhunt for those two killers continues

in this area. over the weekend, they scoured some 800 law enforcement officers, scoured hundreds of acres looking for any sign of the men. so far there is no sign. but investigators say they are continuing their search today. this as ms. joyce mitchell was back in court today. andrea? >> our thanks to miguel almaguer there from plattsburgh. breaking news to report from spokane, washington rachel dolezal has stepped down as spokane's washington chapter of the naacp. resignation comes amid a growing controversy over her claims that she lied -- or claims that she lied about being african-american. this morning on the "today" show dole czar's estrangezal dolezal's estranged parents spoke about her. we're live here in concorde new hampshire. today on the trail, following the two biggest names in the race for the white house. today it is hillary clinton who is here to kick off her

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a button says real men vote for hillary and i got this eight years ago, and it resonated then and it still is resonateing now. >> i thought her speech in new york was fabulous. i hope to hear more of the same here. >> people started lining up early this morning to arrive at this apple or charredchard for hillary clinton.

2016 race for the presidency officially in now with the last names missing though. joining me now here in concorde is "washington post" political correspondent ann gearen from miami, and chris jansing, traveling all over the world with jeb bush and from washington, chris alisa, fix blog. chris jabsnsing, first to you. by all accounts it was a successful trip to europe. now he's trying to make this announcement and distinguish himself as best he can without being disloyal of course from his father from his brother. how does he become just jeb? >> that is the question isn't it? you see it starts with a logo jeb, exclamation point. today he's going to try to be worthy of that exclamation point. he has an internal struggle he has going on. i talked to him about it when we were in europe. he does not want to say that he is going to diss his brother or his father.

on the other hand, how does he make himself his own man? part of it really is just the messaging jeb but he also is looking at how he becomes a person who can tell his own story. that's what we're going to hear today. we're going to hear about what he thinks his accomplishments as governor, but it's also a reminder that he has not been on a ballot for 13 years. so while people know the name bush even here in florida many of the people don't know that much about jeb. so he recognizes he's going to have to tell his personal story, he's going to have to tell his political story, and he also knows that the first six months leading up to this where he was out both raising money and trying to get a sense of some of those early battleground states things didn't go as smoothly as they had hoped. so in some ways this is going to be a restart for him. he knows that he's going to have to go slow and steady and he believes that that ultimately is going to be the winning formula for him giving people time to get to know who he really is

andrea. >> and, chris, this is the campaign video they put out yesterday. let's look a t a little bit of that. >> this is what leadership is about. it's not just about yapping about things. there's a lot of people talking and they're pretty good at it. we need to start fixing things. what we need is new leadership that ticks conservative principles and applies them so people can rise up. america's best days are in front of us and we're going to lead the world. >> and so as they gear up behind us at this event where hillary clinton is expected within the hour, ann, she has the same problem, to try to drish herself from the hillary clinton who lost in '08 against obama. that hillary clinton that was a cabinet secretary without appearing disloyal. her husband who is a far more centrist democrat, different times, different policies. she's trying to edge away on all those fronts. >> and she has to distinguish herself from president obama. she has to make a case for why the voters should elect a third

democratic president in a row, which is something that doesn't happen very often historically. and show how she would continue the parts of his policies that people support and chartered a different koiscourse on others. it's a tricky need to thread as we saw just over the last few days on trade. >> and so on trade for the first time she actually took a position and said that she was standing with nancy pelosi against barack obama. he's also trying to show she can be more specific. there's been a lot of criticism she's been on this listening tour for two months and hasn't been specific about policy proposals. today in rochester, new hampshire, this is what she said about early childhood education, proposing pre-k for all 3 and 4 year olds. >> republicans aren't just missing the boat on early childhood education. they're trying to sink it. their budget puts at risk one of the most effective investments

for our youngest children, early head-start. did they cut subsidies to oil companies? no. did they cut tax loopholes like carried interest for hedge fund managers? no. the republicans took care of those at the top and went after the kids. >> chris, is this the way she can combine public events these small events the one she held this morning, the ral he she's ant to hold she's beginning to do some interviews. we hear she may be doing local tv. is this a better mix for her going forward? >> well, i think anything would be a better mix than what she's done thus far. i do think not sitting for any interviews, taking you know a number of questions that you, ann, and i could probably count on her hands together is not her best strategy. i do think, though andrea the policy specifics i think are a very good idea and here's why. her biggest challenge in the

race is to be cast as a character of the past. if she can use her policy ideas to say, look i've been around. i know what works and what doesn't, and i can future looking ideas republicans don't. that's a way to sort of square that circle that i think is smart. she's clearly someone of significant policy depth, so it speaks to her strechbtngths. i think that's a very smart thing if she did go out and say i've gotten let's say, policies that's going to drive the country forward. here's specifically what they might be. she may not do it but i think it would be smart. >> here's the way she described the way she's going to try to thread that needle about being her own person in her first interview. her first interview was to the des moines register yesterday. listen. >> i will have my own proposals but it's not like i'm saying, you know bill clinton/barack obama are not going to influence how i see the world. i am a democrat.

i believe that our country was stronger, more inclusive, produced more jobs with more rising incomes, the two democratic presidents who both inherited the problems of the republican predecessors. >> and so chris jansing, does jeb bush assume that he's going to be running if he were to win the nomination against hillary clinton? is that sort of their strategic game plan because she's so far ahead of her democratic challengers? >> i'm sorry, andrea. everyone is getting set up here so it's a little noisy. could you repeat that? >> so, sorry. i'm just saying is the calculus on their part down there that if he wins the nomination he's going to be running against hillary clinton? it's almost easier for him to strategize strategize. she has to figure out which of this large field of republicans she's going to be running against. and my own take is that they are more worried about marco rubio, another florida republican, than jeb bush because of the

generation contrast and the fact that jeb bush while he might be better financed, it could be a little rusty. >> yeah i think that when you talk, first of all, you know they've even talked to some of his aides about shaking the cobwebs off after 13 years of not being on a campaign. when i was out with him before he went to europe on several events, both in iowa and new hampshire, which you heard from a lot of republicans is they're concerned about jeb bush that it takes away that generational argument, it takes away that forward looking argument. we've talked to him a little bit about how do you do that how do you convince people given your history that you're the one who really can look to the future. so you're going to hear a lot of language about that. and i think today while you will see his mother when he tells his personal story, we do expect barbara bush to be here his brother won't be here and his father won't be here. it's going to be very important for him to sort of set those boundaries. but they know they have that

challenge. and it was interesting, i'm sure you saw it, andrea, that marco rubio actually put out a statement today, you know sort of welcoming jeb bush to this very crowded republican field. but it certainly is unexpected at this stage of the race that one of his strongest challengers is in fact the young politician who he helped to nurture, andrea. >> indeed. that's a complicated relationship. and then mitt romney was on "morning joe" and suggested that hillary clinton has some of the same vulnerabilities that he had. take a look at this. >> i got beat up on that sort of stuff and i think hillary clinton has to expect the same treatment. look hillary clinton is somebody who talks about how much money some people are making and how much less other people are making. but look at how much money she's been making. how could she get out there and sell a populous message when she makes in one hour multiple of what the average american will make in a year.

>> so their argument the clinton argument would be she's not proposing the same policies as mitt romney, the economic policies. but it is one reason why she keeps talking about her humble beginnings. >> absolutely. i mean they have a vulnerability here which is just you know plain for everyone to see. clearly the. republicans are going to try toeks ploit it. it's something a lot of democrats have the same question that mitt romney just posed. there is a real disconnect between the public figure and well paid public figure she's become and the kind of you know, i'm in it for the little guy message she's selling. so she's got to keep explaining why she's that kind of fighter and talk about what she would do, not who she is. >> anne gearan thanks so much. chris jansing, chris cillizzo thanks so much. up next, we talk to another

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matters most. today jeb bush is making it official as we've been reporting. he's running for the office held by his brother and his father. you won't find the family name though on his new campaign logo. it's jeb! . joining me now is former florida governor, bob martinez big jeb bush supporter and fund-raiser. thank you for being with us. first of all, why the reluctance to put the name "bush" on the bumper stickers? >> jeb has always done that. i've been involved with his campaigns and he has always used jeb. that part is nothing new. it's been his trademark. it's worked for him in the past. there's no reason why he ought to change it. >> you were quoted in the "new

york times" saying that there's a little rust on him. what do you mean by that? >> well, i was asked a question about the statement on iraq and obviously when you'regageing in debate and q and as that you do in public life, sometimes you've got to pick up a rhythm. basically that's what it was. jeb is an incredibly good administrator. he's deep in a policy he understands policy. he's one great policy speaker. and i have all the confidence in the world that as he announces today and engaged in the real combat of campaigning that it will show very strongly. >> marco rubio was asked about jeb bush obviously welcoming him to the campaign and said in politics, people throw around the world "friend" so much that it often has little meaning. this is not one of those times. when i call jeb bush my friend i mean he's someone i like, care

for, and respect. he and i have worked closely together for many years, on issues big and small. he is passionate about what he believes and i welcome him to the race. that said some people find it surprising even in politics someone who is your friend and your mentor would -- that you would jump into a race against someone who is his friend and mentor and gave him a big head start in politics. >> those things do happen though you know. opportunities come. it's an open seat so to speak, for the presidency of the united states. a lot of times you have to go through that window when it's open. so yes, they're friends. their from the same city and the same state. they've been allyies in the past. but those things do happen. they happen in particular obviously in local and state politics where that happened on a continuing basis. this is very unique that it's happening at the presidency. it will make for a good conversation. >> good conversation is an understatement. what is this doing to florida

republicans? >> well, i think that both have a base and a case of governor bush. he spent eight successful years as governor dealing with all forms of issues. there's probably anywhere from 100 to 140 members of the florida house and senate that were republicans who served during the eight years he was governor and i'm sure that's a network he's got throughout the state. currently that three elected cabinet officers in the state of florida have all endorsed jeb bush for election to the presidency for the nomination, i should say. so he has a very strong network in the state. speaking of marco rubio, he ran a fantastic race against charlie crist crist, general the governor of the state of florida to win the seat for the u.s. senate. they're both very skillful come painers. they both have bases. it's a quest for who executes it best. >> he said some months ago he would run for president if he could do it joyfully. there doesn't seem to be a whole

lot of joy in these last couple of weeks shaking up the campaign staff, new campaign manager just as he was heading out to europe. what has gone wrong so far? >> well, i'm going to differ a little bit there. i think it's smart. he wasn't yet a candidate. so he -- whatever he had to do he did it before he announced, which i think is good strategy. don't do it after you announce. so i think he had the six months to begin organizing making decisions, in terms of what will work and won't work and made 2 decision before announces today. i think that's good strategy. >> okay governor martinez it's great to see you. thank you for joining us here on kickoff day for jeb bush down in miami. >> thank you. and we're live here in concorde, new hampshire. see the other major politician with a famous family name campaigning here today. hillary clinton splitting with president obama now over the hottest issues dividing the democratic party. coming up more on that this is "andrea mitchell

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proven to reduce fish burps. new bayer pro ultra omega-3. look for savings in this sunday's newspaper. welcome back to "andrea mitchell reports." i'm luke russert pinch-hitting for a quick minute for andrea mitchell. rachel dolezal has just stepped down as president of the spokane, washington, chapter of the naacp. her resignation comes amid a growing controversy over claims she lied about being black. nbc's jinah kim joins us now live from spokane. gina, how is this decision reached? it seemed to be all but in inevitable as the clouds of controversy kept circling here. >> yeah in some ways one could say this was inevitable move by a woman who has just been

battered since late last week when all of this news came to light. but in another sense, it's also very unexpected because she announced this on facebook. she wrote a very long statement addressed to the executive committee and naacp members. not necessarily to the public. in it she says it's been an honor to serve and there are so many issues facing racial inequality in america and yet she is shocked that international attention has been diverted away from that to focus on her. and she says people do not have the full story. they're continuing to make judgments about her without it. but that she will never quit championing human rights and racial equality in america. having said that now this kind of excuses her from needing to make a statement as to what she truly meant when she went on this journey of hers when clearly her parents even say that she was born caucasian and

for the last decade or so she's been living life as a black woman. after this statement she no longer has to speak on behalf of her role as an naacp leader. we may not know for a while. >> indeed. thank you so much for that report. take care. united airlines is on the defenseive today after a flight from chicago to london made an emergency landing in a remote part of canada over the weekend. and while they put up passengers on a cold night not in a hotel but a military base without heat while the flight crew well, they said comfortably at a nearby hotel. nbc's tom costello has more. tom? >> reporter: this morning united airline says 176 passengers who arrived in london more than 36 hours late will get a full refund after spending nearly 24 hours here in military barracks at canada's goose bay with temperatures just above freezing. he took out his cellphone. >> it's cold out here.

it's about four degrees celsius. >> reporter: united 958 was flying to chicago from london friday night when it made an emergency landing at the royal canadian air force base for mechanical problem but passengers say the military barracs were keeld and had just two thin blankets to make it through the night. >> it was the two of us in a single bed. we froze through night because there wasn't any heat. >> reporter: meanwhile the crew pictured here slept in a nearby hotel. soon angry passengers and families took to twitter. why is united 958 stuck in a military base in goose bay since 2:00 a.m.? no airline rep in 11 hours. someone in united responded to a tweet saying the crew must rest in order to continue the flight. you can rest onboard the aircraft knowing that they are in charge. united says there simply wasn't enough hotel space for all the passengers and, we apologize to our customers for the disruption and we recognize this was a considerable inconvenience. 24 hours later another plane

finally took the passengers to newark. there they were rebooked on to other flights to london. >> and tom costello joins me now from the washington newsroom. tom, from watching some of the enter vuszinterviews of the passengers it struck me they were remarkably calm given what they had to endure but the big problem they had was not the emergency landing, it was not hearing from united throughout the duration of this process. >> that's right. >> what is united saying about why there was such radio silence? >> they're not addressing that issue. i think it's important to stress here that all of the passengers say the canadians did all they could for them. their biggest complaint was the lack of assistance or information from united. by the way, that same canadian military base was also used after 9/11 to house hundreds of passengers who were stranded in canada after u.s. airspace there was closed. and, again, canadians giving a thumbs up from the united passengers, it's united airline that is getting the thumbs down from many passengers. >> something we'll certainly

keep an eye on. tom costello thank you for that report. andrea is back with us in new hampshire. andrea, are you there, my friend? >> i am indeed. and, luke, let's talk about an entirely different kind of delay. not the delay of those poor passengers but the delay over the trade bill which you've been comping. this is what hillary clinton had to say about it in iowa yesterday taking a position not going all the way but saying she sides with nancy pelosi against the president. let's watch. >> the president should listen to and work with his allies in congress, starting with nancy pelosi who have expressed their concerns about the impact that a weak agreement would have on our workers to make sure we get the best strongest deal possible and if we don't get it there should be no deal.

>> lookuke, what impact might this have? is the white house about to change its position on the first bill that went down in a defeat on friday. it was such a rejection of the president in the last-minute desperation lobbying attempts by going up to the hill. >> absolute rejection of the president, andrea. some people went so far as to say this could be the end of the obama presidency at least legislatively because he is so much a lame duck. how it will move forward will remain unclear. how kevin mccarthy said today they are still trying to work on the schedule. remember the way in which the rule was written in this legislation in the house they have an opportunity for a revote by the end of tomorrow early wednesday morning on the trade adjustment assistance package. that's what nancy pelosi voted against to try and bring down the overall trade bill with the realm nations. this is something that democrats ordinarily support. however, at the behest of labor they rallied against this legislation because they knew it would not get enough republican votes to pass and it was

necessary for the overall bill to pass. so expect the house gop leadership to try and revote here more likely than not sometime tomorrow really early wednesday but they've sort of hit their limit on the amount of republican help they can give over the last vote which is about 86 so it will take about 70 democrats to flip and from the pressure they've gotten from labor outside progressive groups, it doesn't look like that's going to happen. so probably this is going to go back to the senate in some capacity and the whole trade process will have to start all over again and how much clout does president obama have now with his own party on this issue? well, i don't think there's a lot. i think it's going to be problematic for him moving forward. >> and one of the things that his former chief of staff bill daley said in defense of the president is it's really stupid for these house democrats to abandon him because it weakens him for a lot of other things they want but from the white house perspective it also weakens him when he faces senate on iran legislation after we expect will be an iran deal.

this is legacy and lame duck time. it's a really pretty big defeat. thanks so much luke. thanks for being there. and more here from the campaign trail here in new hampshire coming up next. but first, back to our breaking story. the resignation of the president of spokane, washington's chapter of the naacp, rachel goal saldole zap. sal. nobody told us to expect it... intercourse that's painful due to menopausal changes it's not likely to go away on its own. so let's do something about it. premarin vaginal cream can help it provides estrogens to help rebuild vaginal tissue and make intercourse more comfortable. premarin vaginal cream treats vaginal changes due to menopause and moderate-to-severe painful intercourse caused by these changes.

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is a continuum. this morning dolezal's estranged biological parents who are white spoke on the "today" show about their daughter saying she is misrepresenting her ethnicity. >> we taught our children as we raised all six of them tell the truth. always be honest. so we weren't going to lie. we told the truth. rachel is our birth daughter. >> joining me now is former spokane and naacp president james wilburn jr. who preceded rachel dolezal in the post. thank you very much mr. wilburn, for joining us. what is the impact of this very unusual controversy on the organization and its mission? >> well, i have two concerns one of course is for rachel and the other is for the branch. i'm concerned for rachel in that there may be some psychological

issues or whatever going on and i wish her the best. i hope that she gets the help that she needs. you know and then for the branch of course i hope that it can maintain its credibility, that it can continue its collaboration and partnerships with this police department, with the city of spokane, and with spokane public schools. >> what do you think that this incident that her experience has created an international. controversy, why are people paying so much attention to this? >> you know, that's a good question andrea because the naacp here in spokane has had european-american presidents before. we are only 1.9% of the population of spokane eblt county. so our membership is probably 50/50 if not more european-american than african-american. so it's not unusual to have

european-american president of the organization. >> tissue, of course, is her unusual claims to misrepresent yourself and there could be a legal issue in terms of an application, to be on a police commission, however she defines herself that way. i understand that the naacp does not have any ethnic or racial requirements for membership or leadership. what about the situation in spokane, the relationship between the african-american community and city leaders, the police? will this have an impact on it? >> i hope that it can be amended. it sure it has had an impact. but i'm hoping that the new leadership for this branch will step up to the plate and maintain the relationships that we've already had with you know the city and the schools and the police department and other organizations within the

city. so it's that search for the new leadership and what type of leader that will be. >> and were you surprised by this? did she always -- had you always assumed that she was african-american? >> yeah, i assumed that she was african-american. i only had her word so i went by what she said. i had no reason to question it. i mean had she said she was european-american, it wouldn't have mattered to me. as long as she wanted to fight for the cause and support the naacp. i say kudos. i also say that, you know under the present circumstances with what's going on the ferguson and in cleveland and in new york on the streets there and in florida with trayvon martin if you've got a european-american who wants to be african-american under those circumstances, that's unusual but i will say, hey, welcome to the club.

>> understood. here's another part of that interview with her parents who were talking to the "today" program. let's watch. >> we're puzzled. we're not sure. >> she may have felt that she had some advantage in her activism by being portrayed as a black woman. >> that was their interview with savannah guthrie, of course on "today." mr. wilburn, you're moving on. have you talked to rachel about this? has she, plained herself to you? >> i have not. no, i haven't. and i don't know if she's been speaking with anyone here recently recently. i did speak with her after she was elected president and told her that if there was anything she needed from me she had my number. she could call me and i would help her in any way that i could. >> james wilburn, thank you very much for joining us with your perspective from spokane, washington. appreciate talking to you today.

>> thank you andrea. i watch your show all the time. >> well, thank you for that, sir. and we are back on the trail here in new hampshire after a short break, we'll see what the morning will bring over the next 24 hours in the race for the white house. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know genies can be really literal? no. what is your wish? no...ok...a million bucks! oh no... geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman, we've always been at the forefront of advanced electronics. providing technology to get more detail...

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welcome r we're back on the trail in concorde, new hampshire, in an apple orchard. hillary clinton is going to be holding a rally here in the orchard inside because of the rain. one of three stops here today in new hampshire. msnbc's alex is joining me now from inside the event where they're expecting her any minute. it's an overflow crowd, in fact. alex, you were in iowa also. i don't know how you did it getting from roosevelt island to here. it was not an easy trip flying all night.

this is the first time on the campaign she's taking a private plane to get from stop to stop. she's adjusted her tempo. she's doing more events. and actually talking to reporters. she did in des moines yesterday. she may well today as well. this is the relaunch. from your perspective, what is the biggest difference? >> well, i mean, this is the first time that everyday americans, as she likes to call them, has a chance to talk to her, see her in person. all of the previous events have been invitation only, you had to have someone from the campaign to reach out to you. the event in iowa went well for her. there's a big question abilityout enthusiasm enthusiasm. bernie sanders have been getting huge crowds and a question whether she could do the same. yesterday, 700 very fired up. this crowds looks fired up, too. some people have said their heart is with bernie sanders but they're going to vote for hillary clinton anyway.

people told me that subpoena this is about her getting out and talking to these people. somebody just came up on the podium and said she's running late because she talked to every single person at her last stop and said she will do the same thing here today. that's the kind of retail politicking she needs to do. >> that's exactly the new hampshire way. alex, i will join you in a moment. that does it for this special edition of "andrea mitchell reports" on the trail today in concorde new hampshire. tomorrow we're live from derry, new hampshire, jeb bush's first stop. remember, follow the show online on facebook and on twitter @mitchellreports and msnbc live with thomas reports is next. he will be interviewing the parents of rachel dolezal. oh larry, lawrence. thanks to the tools and help at experian.com, i know i have a 798 fico score. [score alert text sound] [score alert text sound] oh. that's the sound of my interest rate going down. according to this score alert, my fico score just went up to 816. 816. 816!

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