tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC June 15, 2015 9:00pm-10:01pm PDT
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familial drama that is pretty intense. it's always such a pleasure to have you. >> thank you. >> that's it for "all in" this evening. tomorrow night rachel dolezal will sit down with melissa harris-perry here on "all in." rachel maddow starts right now. >> thanks my friend. >> thanks for staying with us for the next hour. even for things that we are pretty good at, even for things that we are paid to do, all of us have our limits. part of being an adult is recognizing the outer boundaries of what we are capable of as people. so my job, for instance is understanding and explaining the news. and in order to do that job, i do a lot of exposition in terms of just the raw, factual explanation of what's going to in the world and in the news. i also do analysis a little analysis thrown in to explain about what's important going on in the news or at least what
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makes it interesting. i don't think i'm the best at my job. there are people in this building, for example, that are better than me at every aspect of my job. i think i'm okay. mostly, i'm really glad this is my job because i love doing it. i work hard to get better all the time. but i have come to realize that there are limits. there are some things i can't explain or at least that i can't analyze in any meaningful sense because there is something that plainly is appealing about these things or that seems important about these things but i just can't grasp it. i know it means something to other people. i can see it in their faces. but i can't get it. i can't empathize. there aren't a ton of these things but a few of them that come in a recurring way in politics things that obviously really resonate with other people that i figured out, honestly, i just don't get. one of them is term limits.
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people love the idea of term limits, a guaranteed applause line. no matter who suggests term limits in any political speech, right? i think term limits are a terrible ideas for legislators because legislators are supposed to write laws. that is a complicated fraught high degree difficulty work. if legislators are termed out before they figure out how to do a goob job writing laws, then you know what will happen? the people who are going to write laws will be the staffers and the lobbiests and everybody else who is not elected and not subjected to term limits. the actual legislators will not actually do anything while in office if they're not allowed to stick around long enough to make the system work. people love term limits. all sorts of different people and all different sorts of the political spectrum love term limits. i don't get it at all. same thing for nepotism. voting for somebody or feeling loyal because you liked a family member of theirs as a politician. you know, their mom is a politician or their dad is a politician. this extends to when somebody
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dies in office. a lot of people believe at moments like that that the natural inhater of the rest of that person's term should be their child or their spouse which makes being an elected official, that elected official job title something you hand down like dishes. or aunt trudy's dishes. we don't have a house of lords in this country for a reason. people don't inherit titles in this country. i do not get the family dynasty thing in politics among republicans or democrats. or anybody. but obviously lots of other people do get it. particularly on bush v. clinton day in the news today, right? obviously this has some resonance. but i don't feel it. i don't get it. i also don't get a lot of sleep. purpose built political clothing. it's fine for presidents to wear cowboy boots, for example. i think it's weird for presidents to wear boots that are designed to remind them that they are president with the presidential seal on them. why do presidents need those
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jackets whenever they go on air force one? those jackets that tell them they are president while on that airplane. would they otherwise forget? why dothy have to wear the special purpose-built political clothing while on that plane? it is very strange. things large and small. there are things that are beyond the outer limits of my capacity as somebody who has this job, somebody who explains the news and does political analysis. i get that. the most limiting of these today is my complete inability to understand this. this is a person called donald trump. i don't mean like i can't understand him when he speaks. i can understand the things he says. the thing i don't understand is how he is a political figure or what kind of political figure he is or what sort of political juice he's got because he has some. i just can't figure it out. i can't get there.
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today jeb bush became the 11th person to announce he was formally running for the republican nomination for president of the united states. we'll talk more about that a little later on this hour. but tomorrow donald trump is going to be the 12th person to announce he's running for the republican presidential nomination. it's interesting. there's some resistance to accepting that as the next thing that's going to happen in political news. i think there's resistance to accepting that he's about to announce, for the most part because mr. trump in the past has said or strongly hinted that he would run for a high political office and he's never actually followed through and done it. in 1999 and 2000 he said he wanted to run for president not as a republican or democrat but on the reform party ticket. he then ended up going on the "today" show to announce he would not do that. because he looked into it and turns out he figured out that the reform party was a total mess. >> i have made my decision. i am not going to be running. the party is, as you know,
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self-destructing. jesse has left and that's a problem. so i will not be running. >> not running for the nomination of the reform party or not considering any run for the presidency this time around? >> not considering a run. >> nothing could change your mind with that? >> no, no, totally not. >> jesse ventura left the party and so, obviously, that was it. so, donald trump decided after playing with the idea of running for a long time, he decided in 2000 to not run. then in 2012 in the last presidential election cycle, he spent months implying he was going to run. he started giving speeches and doing interviews about his theory that president obama was secretly foreign. that president obama had a fake birth certificate and that actually meant president obama wasn't really president at all because he wasn't american. it was a very weird way to fake run for president, but mr. trump got tons of traction. months and months and months of press coverage for that in 2012. you remember when mitt romney and ann romney had to go do
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their donald trump event? you remember that, right? ultimately donald trump did not run for president in 2012 either. then in 2014 he said he was going to run for governor of new york. at the last minute he decided he would not run for governor of new york after all. now apparently we are on the eve of him announcing whether or not he is going to run for president this time in 2016 as a republican. and here we get to the limits of my abilities as a person who has a job like this. because it is not at all that i dislike mr. trump and, therefore, don't see the appeal because i don't share the affection for him that his supporters have. it's nothing like that. it's not qualitative at all. i don't recognize -- what's going on here i don't recognize, i cannot see that what he is doing is something that might conceivably to anyone have any political appeal. >> i want to make the country great again. this country is a hell hole. >> i have an absolute way of
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defeating isis, and it would be decisive and quick and very, very -- it would be very beautiful. >> i do know what to do and i would know how to bring isis to the table or beyond that defeat isis very quickly, and i'm not going to tell you what it is tonight. you know, one of the problems -- >> why won't you tell me? >> i don't want -- >> donald why don't you tell? >> i'm not going to tell you, gretna. >> we need all the help we can get. >> if i win, i don't want the enemy to to know what i'm doing. i don't want the enemy to know what i'm doing. unfortunately i will probably have to tell at some point but there is a method of defeating them quickly and effectively and having total victory. >> all i can tell you is that it is a foolproof way of winning. and i'm not talking about what some people would say. but it is a foolproof way of winning the war with isis. and will be absolutely 100% they'll let a minimum come to the table and will be defeated
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very quickly. very, very quickly. >> after watching bush make a total ass of himself, rubio then makes an ass out of himself. >> i can't see that kind of public persona. as being something that lays the foundation for a viable presidential run. but i also recognize that mr. trump does very well in the polling among republican voters. there's one new poll out today he does lousy, comes in at 2%. usually he does pretty great. he is certainly on track to be included in the national debates even as like the guy who came in second to mitt romney last time around and the governor of ohio and the former governor of texas. people who would seem to have a much more straightforward shot at the nomination, are coming in fairly consistently after him in the polling. he has also hired staff, one of the reasons rick santorum's bid seems more like a longshot is in part because donald trump hired
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away the key santorum staffers who helped santorum win iowa in 2012. one of the staffers sent out this e-mail inviting republicans to a donald trump event right after he gives his announcement tomorrow. he's going to be making his announcement at the trump tower in new york city. then he'll fly immediately to iowa, whereupon iowa republicans have been invited to meet donald trump in des moines for a rally they are calling, make ameria great. and all over ameria to the extent that anyone is thinking about him, i think the political question about him is whether or not he is really running or going to opt out at the last minute like he has in all the previous nominations. that is kind of the discussion about him. frankly, i think he is going to run. i think he is also very easily going to make the debate cut, a lot of serving republican governors of major states are not going to make that cut. but at a very base and a very present level, i just don't understand this. i don't know how this works politically.
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i don't know how to analyze this phenomenon because part of me does not believe it is real. it is real. republican voters believe it is real but i do not get it. i do not understand it. but joining us next is someone who tends to understand things when i do not. stay with us. ♪ [music] ♪ jackie's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today her doctor has her on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. audible safety beeping audible safety beeping audible safety beeping the nissan rogue with safety shield technologies. the only thing left to fear is you imagination. nissan. innovation that excites.
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so donald trump is going to announce tomorrow that he is running for president of the united states. and jeb announced today, jeb, please don't use his last name. and hillary clinton announced this weekend and started running these last few days not in the way that anybody expected her to. we don't have many days like this in politics. but we saver -- savor them when they happen. we have a special surprise guest coming up next here specifically for amazing days like this. that is next. stay with us.
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over. >> no, no. have you met him? i know you're -- you've been in the same room. i saw you at the correspondents -- have you met him? >> i haven't actually. >> president obama speaking in 2012 apparently never met real estate developer donald trump when mr. trump spent months railing at president obama to release his real birth certificate. but now mr. trump is apparently launching a campaign to not just meet but to actually become president of the united states and republican voters apparently don't mind the idea too terribly much. i do not understand to think about that. i do not understand how to think about it. i do not understand what it means. i don't even understand whether or not this is politics. joining us now is someone who i would like to help me, the host of "hardball," chris matthews. thank you for being here. >> so i'm the grand when it comes to explaining trumpy. >> i just feel like i don't honestly know if this is just a celebrity/reality tv thing i don't get.
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is this real politics? he kind of polls well. >> well, he's kind of a comic book figure. if you imagine a superman or better yet a batman episode, he would be a downtown developer. waunging around with his trench coat, good looking wife lots of money, a flash. he's a showoff. he is the kind of guy where the average working guy doesn't have much money, says this is how i would behave if i were rich. i'd have big buildings named after me. i'd have a beautiful wife. may have several wives. i would show off and talk about running for president and make fun of other people. i would be kind of a wise guy a showoff. i can't do better than that. and that is what he is. i think that is the appeal, just that. >> when he was making noise about running in 2012 i'm sure you remember this we were all part of it to some degree or pnt. the tons and tons of attention not just on cable but from all the networks and tons of print media attention, everybody talking about the possibility of him running and the way he
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was attacking president obama. this time not so much. i know jeb today kind of stepped on him a little bit because he is going to announce tomorrow. not as much noise about him this time. >> unlike charlie brown in "peanuts," you and i realize lucy is going to drop the football. she is not going to hold it for us. how many seasons do we have to go through when charlie brown would realize too late he was on his butt because lucy dropped the ball and wouldn't hold it for him when he went to kick. as you pointed out, we have gotten tired of the game because there is never a chance to kick the football. i guess this time he is going to run. on the issue of the birth certificate, i think that's where the malice comes in. i think as a business guy he deals with a lot of land developers who are very right wing and hawkish on the middle east especially. and i bet every time he walks into a business meeting with one of those fellows they congratulate him for accusing obama of being a foreigner, a usurper, a kenyon, some absurd
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claim. they seem to like it because it is malicious and does play to racism. i'm not saying donald trump is a racist but he is playing to those who love the fact that some rich successful guy underwrites their claim that obama shouldn't be president by some tribal illegitimacy. i think it's business-like and malicious. >> there is a little bit of zero sum aspect to the republican field this year that there hasn't been in other years in part because of the high stakes first televised debate. fox has said they're only going to put ten of these guys on at one. if it happened anytime soon by my count trump would definitely be on the stage and that would mean someone else who might be seen as a more serious candidate, a john kasich santorum, isn't going to be there because trump is. if that holds through the fall ed and he does actually declare he is running and go through the motions and make it into the debates, hue does it affect the whole republican field? >> it's like an agatha christie play.
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it is like ten little indians. he will not just push out or crowd out someone. he will be the show because he will attack whoever the front runner is. if it's scot squot walker he'll knock his head off. he'll do the same to marco rubio or even to bush if he makes a comeback. his whole game the first night out will be to knock out the frontrunner and get in the lead. he won't be in the jump but the top of the story. and that will make the republican party look like a clown car because he is in it. it will hurt the republicans more than -- you seem dismayed by the man's media power. he's got it. people pay big money to live in one of his towers. they're paved with gold. you know they're -- they're confections. but people do go for it as they went for sinatra. this guy is a particular kind of talent called pr. he knows how to build himself up and it's part of this comic book image people are taken with. they don't hate donald trump. people don't. they find him entertaining. >> for me it's not dismay but
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actual confusion that i can't see it. what i'm worried about is that i'm being taken for a ride. this is something about a tv show that i don't want to watch. >> he has taken us four times for a ride. i went through the numbers. he ran in '88, 2000, '04 and '12. every time he said he's going to run till the last minute, then he drops the football. and i think this time, as you pointed out earlier, he will have to run. this time he has to run. the question is, will he actually file? you know he put out some numbers today, he's worth $8 or $9 billion. my question is when he puts that under oath in his formal filings, i'll believe it when he swears to that under the law. and that means he is actually running. we don't know he is going to do that. if he does i will be impressed he is risking exposure to the kind of body frisk that goes on for any candidate. it's going to be serious business because the press, even though they like the story, they like him on the way up, they're going to like him on the way down. look how the press has gone after christie.
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christie has always been good copy. whether a story is good or bad, governor christie is always good copy and so is donald trump. that's the risk he's taking when he goes and puts his head into that noose and says i'm candidate for president of the united states. that changes the rules of coverage. you're no longer covered as a colorful american comic figure. you're covered with scrutiny and sometimes the really toughness of politics. that could be tough for him. >> chris matthews -- >> he may really well regret doing this. >> or he may have it all gamed out. we'll find out for sure tomorrow whether he's running. chris, i didn't expect to be covering presidential politics -- this intensely this early in the year, but it's amazing. >> can i give you a prediction? >> yeah. >> it still looks like hillary's the next president. >> you think so? >> it looks like it. >> we'll keep talking about it all year. >> i don't think it's bold at all. >> thank you forring being here. chris matthews host of
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question for me is, what am i going to do about it? and i've decided, i'm a candidate for president of the united states of america! [ applause ] >> woo! >> i did not see that coming. this is not an embarrassing thing that jeb bush did. this is not like howard dean with a scream in iowa. this is not jeb's brother doing that you've got to put food on your family thing. this is not bad. this is not something he has to live down. i don't mean it that way. it was just unexpected. it was a very unexpected thing. we made a little loop of it today. i've been watching it all day. >> woo! woo! woo! >> he's got a little touch of the owl. woo! and i say thats aan owl fan.
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woo! jeb bush former governor of florida, brother of george w. bush son of george h.w. bush, officially became the 11th major republican candidate to declare a run for the presidency in 2016. there was one nice candid moment where he referenced the fact that there are a gazillion people running. >> campaigns aren't easy and and they're not supposed to be. and i know that there are a lot of good people running for president. quite a few, in fact. and not one of us deserves the job by right of resume party, seniority, family or family narrative. it's nobody's turn. it's everybody's test. and it's wide open. exactly as the contest for president should be. >> woo! amen. you know the wide open nature of this race on the republican side, in particular is honestly, very, very exciting this year but the size of the
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field is creating all sorts of challenges for the individual candidates. and for the party as a whole trying to figure out how to deal with this unwieldy giant group of people none of whom has particularly strong advantage over the others. there is a new poll that came out the headline they put out is no top tier. the director of the poll says quote, you would be hard-pressed to look at the results and identify an ee menching top tier let alone a so-called frontrunner. honestly, even in this poll there is a strong frontrunner. none of the candidates placed higher than 11% among republican voters nationwide. nobody is more than a point ahead of anybody else. undecided kicks everybody's butt. undecided is clearly winning the republican race for president. 20% of respondents. undecided is getting stronger and stronger over time. two months ago in this same poll undecided only got 14%. now undecided gets 20%. i think undecided is going to win.
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in the meantime, the republican party has to decide who they're going to allow to compete for the nomination by for example, competing in the nationally televised debates. john mccain is the latest to say the fox news channel has to drop their plan to only allow the top ten candidates of national polling into the first debate. he tells "time" magazine now, quote, i think if you had these rules in 2007 you may never have been the nominee of the party in 2008. it shuts out those who aren't well known or performance in the state of new hampshire. it is hard to believe that the fox news channel and the republican party are going to be able to continue with this plan to only allow the top ken candidates to compete for the nomination. when there is no clear front runner other than undecided and there is no top tier of serious candidates who have a materially better chance at the nomination than everybody else does. but jeb bush today became the
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11th republican to formally join the race. and in a bipartisan way, it is remarkable now that just over the last 72 hours, we have had the official rollout of two of the three major candidate who is are running for president this year who represent big family political dynasties. i mean there is rand paul as well, who inherits basically intact the whole infrastructure and machinery of his dad's multiple protest campaigns for president. there is jeb bush, who formally rolled out his campaign today. if he were successful and won the general election that would make the bush family of ken bunk port the only family in american history to have ever supplied the country with three presidents. but it was an interesting choice today for jeb bush that neither his brother, the former president, nor his father the former president were actually there on hand in miami for jeb's announcement. he didn't mention either by name and didn't talk about either of their presidencies except the
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only reference was when he described himself as a guy who met his first president on the day he was born and the second president on the day he was brought home from the hospital. but that was it. that little joke that was it. no further discussion of his brother's time as president or his dad as time as president. and maybe it's easy to make too much of that but at same time he also rolled out what's going to be his official campaign logo. it's actually an old logo from the time he ran for governor in 1994. that was a campaign he lost. so you might think the logo might have bad juju or something, but he's using that logo again for his campaign this time around. one obvious advantage of this gently used recycled campaign logo is that it does not include his last name. if you want to find the jeb bush for campaign online, no last name, it's jeb2016.com.
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jeb who? wink wink. if you forget and actually time in jebbushforpresident.com, you will soon find that is the website owned by this adorable gay bear couple. remember these guys? c.j. and charlie? we had them on the show a few months ago when we realized they were owners of jebbushfor president.com. it's a great website. it's lovelily. it's about their family and their dogs and how much they love driving around in their rv. they want their website jebbushforpresident.com to are an open forum for gay rights. so jebbushforpresident.com is the cute bear gay couple. if you're looking for jeb bush drop his last name. the word "bush" is not part of his campaign. it's just a first name. it's like cher. or it's like the rock.
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or bjork. or coolio. fabio, twiggy seal, liberace. it's just one name. hillary clinton could have chose ton do that as well. the name of that superpac was ready for hillary. her campaign logo is just an "h" with the arrow thing. she, too, could have been campaigning for president as if she dropped from the sky or maybe hatched one day under a shady elm, right? independent of any surname. independent of any political history that would be implied by that surname. she totally could just be running as hillary but she's running in the complete opposite direction. in strike stark contrast from jeb bush she's not running away from the previous president nor the president whom she just served as secretary of state. >> you know president roosevelt's four freedoms are a testament to our nation's
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unmatched aspirations and a reminder of our unfinished work as home and abroad. his legacy lifted up a nation and inspired presidents who followed. one is the man i served as secretary of state, barack obama. [ applause ] >> and another is my husband, bill clinton. [ applause ] >> two democrats guided by -- oh, that will make him so happy. they were and are two democrats guided by the fundamental american belief that real and
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lasting pros lasting prosperity must be built by all and shared by all. >> hillary clinton at her big campaign launch rally in new york city on saturday. at the top of her speech referencing not only president obama but her husband's presidency as well. at the end of her speech president clinton joined mrs. clinton on stage. there was no hiding his light under a bushel, right? and that was not just something she put on for the campaign launch. she's been consistent and really aggressive on this. in every appearance she has made since the launch on saturday morning. and hold o because this is where it gets really good. we'll be right back. rstands the life behind it. ♪ those who have served our nation have earned the very best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to
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that it is possible to do better. they both inherited the problems from their republican predecessors. [ applause ] >> and they had to dig us out of holes. but the facts speak for themselves. >> but it's not like i'm saying you know bill clinton and barack obama are not going to influence how i see the world. i am a democrat. i believe that our country was stronger, more inclusive, produced more jobs with more rising incomes with two democratic presidents who both inherited the problems of their republican predecessors. >> so jeb bush is running today. he is going to announce. he's trying to say his last name doesn't matter. any piece of advice for him on that? >> i have to say that is a very tempting question to answer, but i won't. i would say this i'm going to
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let the republicans decide who their nominee ends up being. i'm running on my record, on my positions, but i'm very proud that i have experience alongside my husband in the white house and serving as secretary of state for president obama, that i think will really be helpful as i both campaign for and serve as president. >> when al gore ran as incumbent vice president to succeed bill clinton in 2000 he famously ran away from clinton presidency from bill clinton personally, but also from the achievements of the bill clinton presidency that the country felt good about at the time. hillary clinton is not making that mistake and not running away from the presidency of barack obama which was an open question. nobody knew how she would position herself in relation to president obama. now we know. she's making it very clear, no distance.
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and that is striking on its own terms. but if she ends up running against jeb bush it will be freaking amazing. maybe it's just a coincidence that jeb bush forgot to invite his brother and his dad to his campaign announcement today. and he forgot to include his last name in his logo. and he forgot to include his last name on his website. and it's hard to make out any obvious reference to the fact that he would be the third member of his own nuclear family to be president of the united states if he were elected. but that is apparently how he is going to run. first names only. for hillary clinton, it is 100% the only of that. joining us now from concord, new hampshire is andrea mitchell. host of "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. i know it has been an endless day for you. thank you for being here. >> my pleasure. it has been a fascinating day in politics watching these two candidates. >> seeing hillary clinton running, talking about her husband's presidency, talking about her husband as my husband, talking about the clinton
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presidency and the obama presidency as two essentially twin experiences with democratic leadership, which she wants to build on on the same day that jeb bush is running as if his last name is not bush not in the logo, not in the campaign website, not in his announcement today. is this a contrast that we expected from secretary clinton? >> i'm not sure that we really understood how she was going to straddle this or deal with it. and she's embraced it. she's embracing obama. she's certainly embracing her husband. she's not running away from his legacy, from his value system. she is talking about both of these democratic predecessors. one whom she's married, the other whom she served. and she is distinguishing herself, though from policies without being explicit, she certainly is not discussing the economy the way bill clinton of the democratic leadership
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coalition spoke about the economy or in 1996 when he went for welfare reform. there were a number of policies that she would not have supported. did not support inside the white house. welfare reform is clearly one that was very controversial, the head of the clinton foundation with others in the cabinet, and presumably the first lady as well. but she is now moving to the left because the country has moved to the left. and because she's under pressure from those who are in love with elizabeth warren from those flocking to bernie sanders. and he's getting a lot of support from millinlesenials, and she's trying to adjust to that. she moved away from president obama on trade. and that, of course, is a hot topic and was noticed, you can believe me, in the white house. that said she has no apologies for them, not for their values and what they represent. i think it is very artfully done
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and so far i think it could work for her. >> andrea on that point about trade, obviously, bernie sanders had been just one of the people probably to the left of her in the democratic party who had been pushing her to give an answer on that. she had been avoiding giving an answer to that. she finally came out and said i'm with nancy pelosi voted against the trade bill after keeping her cards very close to the vest and heading into that vote. that happened today. or discussion of that at least happened today. she took questions for about 20 minutes with the press. it's been a real flashpoint, a real point of criticism, that she hasn't been available to reporters. is it your sense that will change now? >> reporter: i think it is. i think how often she does it is another issue. but the fact that she spent 20 minutes talking to us. we knew this was going to take place. there were lots of signals. it was very orderly. there were no shouted questions. i think it served her well. she's so good and adept at handling press questions, aside
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from you know instance like that u.n. experience talking about the e-mails and at some points during her book tour. but she's clearly thought these answers through. i think her answer about her wealth, when i asked her about mitt romney's criticism, there was sort of a laughter you know, mitt romney is criticizing me about my wealth? his point was that she's going to get beaten up the way i was beaten up said he because her earnings, her speech earnings are so -- multiples of what other people make per hour. how can she be a populist? and what she said was american people don't begrudge other people's success. they just don't want to see people who are so successful because they lived the american dream and others have helped them and then they pull up the ladder behind them and say they built their own log cabin. and i think that that's an interesting answer.
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alaska. somewhere in between is a ship called the arctic challenger. it's operated by shell oil. it's set to arrive any day now as shell starts drilling the arctic. alaska is getting ready for it to arrive, and so is the coast guard. >> reporter: sitting in alaska are two 25-foot coast guard response boats. they arrived at the end of may the coast guard will use them to patrol waters and enforce the safety zone around shell's fleet. >> with the potential for protest activity we as the coast guard are going to ensure that all mariners are maintaining safety on the water, as small vessels can try to impede upon large vessels' movement and vice versa, because a very dangerous situation. >> so the coast guard is going to be stationing vessels around the arctic challenger to keep protesters away. they're already planning that. they've pre-positioned already. the ship hasn't even arrived yet and they've already geared up for potential protester trouble.
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frankly, there's probably good reason for them to be concerned. last month as it was sitting in port in washington state, waiting to go to alaska it was boarded by protesters who attached themselves to its anchor chain and they just hung there for days before being removed bit coast guard. this past friday another one of shell's ship got boarded. protesters attached themselves to the ship's anchor chain. stayed there for seven hours before being hauled down by the coast guard. both of those happened in belling ham, just up the coast from seattle. this was the scene in seattle earlier today. this is the polar pioneer. that giant yellow thing there. one of shell's rigs that is supposed to do the drilling in the arctic. it's unimaginably huge. that drilling rig left the port of seattle this morning on its way to alaska. but on its way out of port it was met with a blockade of kayakers, about 50 of them, who physically put their teeny, teeny, teeny boats and them selves in the direct path of that gigantic rig as it started its journey to the arctic. 14 of those activists were taken
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into custody today. including a seattle city councilman. in some cases, those activists were pulled out of their kayaks by the coast guard when they were taken into custody. they've all since been released. but that scene in seattle was sort of a repeat of this protest when a giant mroeflotilla of kayakers swarmed around that rig as it arrived in seattle. so yeah. the thing got into washington amid a big flotilla of protesters, it got out of washington, barely, amid another big flotilla of protesters, and now that the first shell vessel from their drilling fleet is about to arrive in alaska the coast guard is getting ready for what they expect to be a fight. and they have prepositioned their resources. although word to the wise here. if there is a fight, it's hard to expect exactly how the protesters might wage it because they have been pretty unpredictable. this is the seattle space needle that looks a little disconcertingly like a syringe.
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it also has banquets halls you can rent out. in 2012 the space needle was the site of a big launch party for a shell oil arctic drilling rig called the kulik. there was a big party inside the space needle to say farewell to the rig. everything seemed like it was going fine until this happened. >> we're going to pour a ceremonial glass here and would like to be joined by our special guest. the widow of the late great designer of the rig. mrs. enid appleby. we would like you to have the first glass poured. >> thank you. thank you. >> so put your glass right over here, enid, and we'll fill you up. >> oh my goodness! oh my goodness. turn it off! >> stop, stop, stop.
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>> oh, my goodness. >> it's fine. >> it's a disaster. >> who is responsible for this disaster? the answer to that question turned out to be activist grouped call the yes men. in 2012 they set up a whole fake launch party. at the seattle space needle. they posed as shell oil officials, invited local business leaders to attend the launch and unleashed an oil spill from their miniature oil rig. the nice lady was also an activist. she was in on it. it was a stunt to call attention to shell's drilling activities in the arctic and it did get all sorts of press when they did it. and now that shell is back out there to try drilling again, the yes men are at it gone. the yes men posing as shell employees again. they took to the streets of new york city to offer passersby free sno-cones. the big chunk of ice they
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offered they said was from the last chunk of ice from the last polar ice. free sno-cones from the last polar ice ever. come slurp the arctic with shell. shell's now waiting on the last few permits to start their drilling in the arctic. honestly, it seems clear, they're never going to be able to do this in peace. it's going to be a long, hot summer. ♪ [music] ♪ defiance is in our bones. new citracal pearls. delicious berries and cream. soft, chewable, calcium plus vitamin d. only from citracal. ♪ ♪ one day a rider made a decision. the decision to ride on and save money. he decided to save money by switching his motorcycle insurance to geico. there's no shame in saving money. ride on, ride proud.
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state. tomorrow we're going to get donald trump's announcement that he's running as president. and in the middle of that, we're waiting on several huge rulings from the u.s. supreme court that could have a big effect on not i wasn't ready for those supreme court decision today. so i'm glad they held off today. >> we get to do more homework. >> thanks rachel. well, we are exactly 13 hours away from donald trump's big announcement tomorrow. but you are a minute away from hearing what donald's going to say tomorrow. i've decided, i'm a candidate for the president of the united states of america. >> and we are off to the races. >> the crowd was incredibl
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