y is about to announce his plans for the 2016 campaign in the trump tower in the heart of new york city. if he decides to run, trump will be the 12th republican to officially jump into the race. according to the "washington post," trump has signalled he is serious about a white house run by agreeing to release details about his personal finances right after this event, something he has not done in the past. the post reporting that trump will declare $9 billion worth of assets, a figure that would make him the wealthiest republican contender. trump also comes on the heels of jeb bush's formal announcement yesterday at a huge rally in miami. >> as our whole nation has learned since 2008 executive experience is another term for preparation, and there is no substitute for that. [ cheers and applause ] >> we're not dwggoing to clean up the mess in washington by electing the people who either created it or are incapable of

fixing it. >> the former governor also used his fluent spanish and he opposed a protester who interrupted his speech. >> the next president of the united states will release immigration reform so that will be stopped, not by executive order. >> james is at the white house. joining me also is editor mark murray. i see ivanka trump introducing her father. any speculation on what could happen today? >> reporter: we're speculating him getting in and most political announcements are very straightforward. we'll have to wait for the man of the hour to tell us what he's

going to do, but if he does he's in it to win it. people are saying he could beat hillary, he could restore this country in a way no one else can, so his followers really think he could pull this off. >> tell me about the spectacle here. this is a building where the trump name right outside, and i can't help but notice an entertainment reporter there. you don't often see entertainment reporters showing up at a public announcement but i think that speaks to everything that is sometimes a circus around donald trump. >> yeah i actually reached out to a lot of people and asked them, why do you like trump, are you supporting him? some of the people were just here to see him. they just want to hear the guy say "you're fired." he's a big celebrity. but his aides say that has tom power tighto it too. they say, yeah 7500 people showed up at a rally in iowa

too, so some wonder if it's political power or just celebrity. >> mark the "washington post" said trump will give up his financial resources, but this is not a forum that would be required if he is a candidate, right? >> that's right, tamron and that's a distinction for everyone to make. what donald trump will do is release a two-page summary that lists his net worth, assets and liabilities, but this isn't the big government disclosure form that all presidential candidates have to release within 30 days of becoming a candidate. this is the same one where we saw all the speaking fees hillary clinton ended up making. this is the one where marco rubio liquidated one of his retirement accounts. this has a lot of detail in them. there are some things missing, but it's not just a one-page summary. as soon as he releases that full government disclosure form it's really hard to take him

seriously as a presidential candidate given everybody else when they become a candidate, actually filed these government forms. we have to see if he actually does this government form. >> weave done've done this dance for many years those of us who have covered donald trump and his seemingly effective desire to be president but not really want to jump into the race. let's play an exchange between trump and matt lauer in the year 2000. let's listen. >> i've made my decision. i'm not going to be running. the party is as you know self-destructing. jesse has left and that's a problem. so i will not be running. >> not running for the nomination of the reform party or not considering any run for the presidency this time around? >> not considering a run. >> nothing could change your mind with that? >> no. no. definitely not. >> so the last time around matt -- i'm sorry, i apologize -- mark -- the last time around it was something about the show the celebrity

apprentice and wanting to continue to do that having the pressure from nbc to keep doing that. if he does not announce this time that he's actually going to run, does that say anything about the republican party and that you have all these people there who want to see this guy run, and in some of the polling he actually shows that he's in the middle. >> yeah tamron i don't really think it says a whole lot about the republican party. one, he's still pretty unpopular with republicans. 74% of republican voters were saying they couldn't see them supporting donald trump, so that poll kind of shows that he really doesn't resonate with your kind of rank and file republican voters. where he is, though is in the top 10 of just by virtue of his name identification. he's at 3 or 4% in the polls just because he's so famous. he might actually be able to get on that debate stage. that may be where he's playing here.

i think the bigger look is donald trump has often played the whole charlie brown, the lucy football game where he's flirtd flirted with presidential bids. i think this step he's taking today is closer than he's ever gotten before. >> other than the report that says he will disclose his income, which, again, you pointed out this is not an official form this is his organization releasing a number that we don't know if it's the same form or the same information. so what is there here mark that indicates he's actually willing to become an official candidate? >> tamron i could be wrong, but all the signs are actually pointing to him saying at this event today that he is going to be running for the presidency. the question is to what extent? is it really a presidential run with a footnote attached that well, i'm going to be in this race for three or four months or i'm going to pull out because i don't want to file my government financial disclosure form, as well as, oh i need to

go and take the next season of "the apprentice" as well. so even though he does say he's getting in i'm not sure he's getting in the way we've seen these other presidential candidates. >> what is the deadline to present that financial disclosure form? >> this is the interesting thing. you have 30 days within your candidacy to file that with the government. however, you could end up getting up to two file extensions, meaning from today, donald trump could go 120 days before filing these government forms, which could give him enough to get on the debate if they are fine waiting for his financial report. >> some of the candidates, they went in they didn't know the air conditioner didn't work. they sweated like dogs. they didn't know the room was too big because they didn't have anybody there. how are they going to beat isis? i don't think it's going to happen. our country is in serious

trouble. we don't have victories anymore. we used to have victories, but we don't have them. when was the last time anybody saw us beating, let's say, china in a trade deal? they kill us. i beat china all the time. all the time. when did we beat japan at anything? they send their cars over by the millions, and what do we do? when was the last time you saw a chevrolet in tokyo? it doesn't exist, folks. they beat us all the time. when do we beat mexico at the border? they're laughing at us at our stupidity. and now they're beating us economically. they are not our friend believe me. but they're killing us

economically. the u.s. has become a dumping ground for everybody else's problems. >> we need you! >> thank you. it's true. these are the best and the finest. when mexico sends its people they're not sending their best. they're not sending you. they're not sending you. they're sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing those problems with us. they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists, and some i assume are good people. but i speak to border guards and they tell us what we're getting. and it only makes common sense. it only makes common sense. they're sending us not the right people. it's coming from more than mexico. it's coming from all over south and latin america, and it's

coming probably -- probably -- from the middle east. but we don't know because we have no protection and we have no confidence. we don't know what's happening, and it's got to stop. and it's got to stop fast. [ cheers and applause ] >> islamic terrorism is eating up large portions of the middle east. they've become rich. i'm in competition with them. they just built a hotel in syria. can you believe this? they built a hotel. when i have to build a hotel, i pay interest. they don't have to pay interest because they took the oil that when we left iraq, i said we should have taken. so now isis has the oil. and what they don't have iran has. and in 19 -- and i will tell you this, and i said it very

strongly. years ago i said -- and i love the military and i want to have the strongest military that we've ever had and we need it now more than ever but i said don't hit iraq because you're going to totally destabilize the middle east. iran is going to take over the middle east. iran and somebody else will get the oil. and it turned out that iran is now taking over iraq. think of it. iran is taking over iraq. and they're taking it over big league. we spent $2 trillion in iraq. 2 trillion. we lost thousands of lives, thousands, in iraq. we have wounded soldiers who i love -- i love -- all over the place. thousands and thousands of wounded soldiers and we have nothing.

we can't even go there. we have nothing. and every time we give iraq equipment, the first time a bullet goes off in the air, they leave it. last week i read 2,300 humvees -- these are big vehicles -- were left behind for the enemy. you would say maybe two? maybe four? 2,300 sophisticated vehicles they ran and the enemy took them. last quarter it was just announced our gross domestic product, a sign of strength right? but not for us. it was below zero. who ever heard of this? it's never below zero.

our labor participation rate was the worst since 1978 but think of it people love zero. and our real unemployment is anywhere from 18 to 20%. don't believe the 5.6. don't believe it. that's right, a lot of people up there can't get jobs. they can't get jobs because there are no jobs. because china has our jobs and mexico has our jobs. they all have our jobs. but the real number, the real number, is anywhere from 18 to 19 and even 21%, and nobody talks about it. because it's a statistic that's full of nonsense. >> we want jobs now! >> our enemies are getting stronger and stronger by the day. and we as a country are getting

weaker. even our nuclear arsenal doesn't work. it came out recently they have equipment that's 30 years old and they don't know if it works. i thought it was horrible when it was broadcast on television because boy, does that send signals to putin and everybody else who look at us and say, that is a group of people and that is a nation that truly has no clue. they don't know what they're doing. they don't know what they're doing. we have a disaster called the big lie: obamacare. obamacare. yesterday came out that costs are going, for people up 29 39 49 and even 55%.

and deductibles are through the roof. you have to get hit by a tractor, literally a tractor, to use it. because the deductibles are so high it's virtually useless. it is a disaster. and remember the $5 billion website. 5 billion we spent on the website. and to this day it doesn't work. a $5 billion website. i have so many websites i have all over the place. i hire people they do a website. it costs me $3. $5 billion website. >> we want trump! we want trump! we want trump! we want trump! >> well you need somebody because politicians are all

talk no action. nothing is going to get done. they will not bring us believe me, to the promised land. they will not. as an example, i've been on the circuit making speeches and i hear my fellow republicans, and they're wonderful people. i like 'em! they all want me to support them. they don't know how to bring it about. they come up to my office -- i'm meeting with three of them next week. and they don't know -- are you running? are you not running? could we have your support? what do we do? how do we do it? i like them and i hear their speeches. they don't talk jobs and they don't talk china. when is the last time you heard, china is killing us. they're devaluing their currency to a level that you wouldn't believe. it makes it impossible for our companies to compete. impossible. they're killing us. but you don't hear that from anybody else. you don't hear it from anybody

else. and i watch the speeches -- thank you. i watch the speeches of these people and they say, the sun will rise the moon will set. all sorts of wonderful things will happen. and people are saying what's going on? i just want a job. just get me a job. i don't need the rhetoric i want a job. and that's what's happening. and it's going to get worse, because remember obamacare really kicks in in '16, 2016. obama is going to be out playing golf. he might even be on one of my courses. i would invite him. i have the best courses in the world, so i would say, you know what -- i have one right next to the white house right on the potomac. if he wants to play that's fine. in fact i would like him to leave early and play. that would be a very good thing.

but obamacare kicks in in 2016. really big league. it is going to be amazingly destructive. doctors are quitting. i have a friend who is a doctor and he said to me the other day, donald, i never saw anything like it. i have more accountants than i have nurses. it's a disaster. my patients are beside themselves. they had a plan that was good they have no plan now. we have to repeal obamacare and it can be replaced with something much better for everybody. let it be for everybody, but much better and much less expensive for people and for the government. and we can do it. >> trump! trump! trump! trump! trump! trump! >> so i've watched the politicians, i've dealt with them all my life. if you can't make a good deal

with a politician then there's something wrong with you. you're certainly not very good. and that's what we have representing us. they will never make america great again. they don't even have a chance. their control fully by the lobbyists, by the donors and by the special interests, fully the controller. i have lobbyists, i have to tell you. i have lobbyists that can produce anything for me. they're great. but you know what? it won't happen. it won't happen. because we have to stop doing things for some people but for this country it's destroying our country. we have to stop and it has to stop now. now, our country needs a truly

great leader and we need a truly great leader now. we need a leader that wrote the art of the deal. we need a leader that can bring back our jobs can bring back our manufacturing, can bring back our military can take care of our vets. our vets have been abandoned. and we also need a cheerleader. you know when president obama was elected, i said well the one thing i think he'll do well i think he'll be a great cheerleader for the country. i think he'd be a great spirit. he was vibrant, he was young. i really thought he would be a great cheerleader. he's not a leader that's true. you're right about that.

but he wasn't a cheerleader. he's actually a negative force. he's been a negative force. he wasn't a cheerleader. he was the opposite. we need somebody that can take the brand of the united states and make it great again. it's not great again. [ cheers and applause ] >> we need somebody that literally will take this country and make it great again. we can do that. and, i will tell you, i love my life. i have a wonderful family. they're saying dad, you're going to do something that's going to be so tough. all my life i heard that a

really, really successful person, and even modestly successful, cannot run for public office. just can't happen. and yet that's the kind of mindset that you need to make this country great again. so, ladies and gentlemen, i am officially running for president of the united states and we are going to make our country great again! [ applause ] ♪ there you have it donald trump officially in the race the 2016 race for the white house. let me bring in mark murray. mark you had folks who were skeptical, who did not think that donald trump would actually get into the race. he's alluded to it before he's talked about it many times.

and this time he says he's in to make america or make this country great again. >> and tamron again, this is closer -- this is more than he's ever done in the past. but, you know it still remains to be seen whether he goes in as much as other presidential candidates on the democratic and republican side has. as you and i were discussing, he has 30 days to be able to file an actual disclosure form with the government. it will be interesting to see if he does that because these are very detailed forms that list all the finances all the amounts of income and so far, according to the "washington post," he's only released a one or two-page summary of his finances. it will be interesting to see if he goes further than just the summary and does the other things that would suggest a presidential run. we've often been burned in the past with donald trump running for the presidency in the past. we'll see if he goes through

more. >> looking at the poll numbers and how we are hearing how the debates may be handled, from some of the polling he has the threshold to get him on stage, right? >> right. and that goes to name identification. almost all americans know who donald trump is and you put any person with that kind of name i.d. on a poll and you'll find yourself getting 4 or 5%. so it's very realistic that he could finish in that top 10 of the people who need to be able to get on that first debate stage in august. but tamron then the question becomes, what does fox news who holds the first debate is that financial summary that donald trump has good enough for them or do they wait until he actually files that governmental form? to me that's a real big question here. >> let's look at the impact he could have on the race. you hear him saying he would repeal obamacare. you heard some language that i think some people would certainly feel incendiary regarding immigration reform and

immigrants in this country. with that said what does a candidate like donald trump, if he is willing to push the limit to court the most conservative of those in his party, how does that impact someone like a jeb bush who may moderate expect to moderate, if he goes on to the general election. the bottom line is he expected to wound someone who may ultimately win the party's nomination? >> i don't know if he can wound a particular person but i think he would end up hijacking debates. as we saw in this speech everything he would end up saying would get headlines and distract from the discussions you would normally have at debates. i think the bigger worry for republicans is does he push the party so far to kind of extreme positions, and we saw him complaining about mexico and mexicans and the japanese, things like that where this turns into a pretty big black eye. >> it will be interesting to see what happens and what happens in this 30-day window i think you

said, for those documents. but for the first time donald trump making it official. he is running for president of the united states and he plans on securing the republican nomg nomination. we'll see what this means. thank you, mark really appreciate it. she lied about her race. former naacp chapter president rachel dolezal is breaking her silence in an exclusive interview with msnbc's melissa harris-perry. rachel dolezal discusses her racial identity and why she identifies with being black. >> are you black? >> yes. >> what do you mean when you say that? what does it mean to assume the mantle, the identity of blackness? >> well it means several things. first of all, it means that i have really gone there with the experience in terms of being a mother of two black sons and really owning what it means to

experience and live blackness. so that's one aspect. another aspect would be that from a very young age, i felt spiritual, visceral distinct connection with black is beautiful, you know just the black experience and wanting to celebrate that. >> the interview comes a day after she resigned her post of the spokane chapter of the naacp. dolezal was facing increasing strut any scrutiny with her role within the organization after it broke last week by her parents that she was born white. it comes with criticism that she's deliberately misleading people. >> are you a con artist? >> i don't think so. i don't think anything that i have done with regard to the

movement my work my life my identity it's all been very thoughtful and careful. sometimes decisions have been made for survival reasons or to protect people that i love and all things included when it boils down the entire world could say, stand down but when it comes to being there for my kids and my sister i will never stand down on that. it's been hard for me to actually have the courage to be there for myself because my life, and kind of my path my journey, has been to be so heavily aware of the needs of other people and trying to organize, strategize advocate or protect those interests. >> dolezal also discussed the latest revelation that she sued

historically black howard university for discrimination. according to court documents using the name rachel moore, she filed a lawsuit in 2002 as a grad student claiming she was discriminated against because she was not african-american. the suit was eventually dismissed by a federal judge. dolezal said she was passed over by a scholarship and teaching position. >> at that point, seven months pregnant female, he's like come back when you're back in shape and have a one-year-old. and other people need opportunities for the teaching position, and you have white relatives so they probably can afford to financially assist you. no i need to finish on time. i have a plan and i cannot -- we had, like oatmeal in the cupboard seriously.

like that was -- a quakeer oats container. we were in survival mode as a family. >> joining me now, the national president and ceo of the naacp, cornell william brooks. thank you so much, sir, for your time. >> good morning. >> let me pick up on the last exchange with rachel dolezal and melissa where she explains why she sued howard university saying basically she was in survival mode surviving on oatmeal there. is that a valid explanation for suing the university saying they discriminated against her because she was white? >> well i think many of us across the country can relate to being in survival mode. i can't speak to the litigation but what i can simply say is this. taking up the calls in social justice is something one does conscientiously. taking on a racial identity, that's a more complicated

perfection. she's resigned as leader of the n a a krrks naacp. she did so, as she said in that letter because she wants the branch to focus on that work. i can't speak to the litigation but i can say the cost of racial justice goes on and that's what's important here. >> i know that you and the organization released a statement just yesterday planning a huge rally, america's journey for justice, and you have called on for people of all races to join forces. could rachel dolezal have joined the movement without saying that she was black, leading her white light but still being there for the cause? >> rachel and anyone else of any ethnicity, any hue, any heritage could join the journey for justice. bear in mind, for 106 years, the national association for the advancement of colored people

people of all colors we've stood for the proposition that all people are created equal. we have invited people of all ethnicities all across country in our work. there are white branch presidents, there are native american branch presidents. we had a white leader walter white, who led the association. and this was a black man with white skin, blue eyes and red hair. it's not about your color, it's about the content of your character and your commitment to racial justice. so she would be welcome and anyone else. >> so to the point of her character, there are many who question rachel's credibility in that there seems to be discrepancies in a number of stories saying she was beaten with a bull whip as a child to some other things that involve

her parents. with that said she said that she identifies as being black. she explained that as owning her blackness. is she black? >> well, we're not in the business of imposing any kind of a racial litmus test. that's not something we do. you won't see anybody on the floor in the office of the naacp and people asking are you black, are you white? they would more likely ask, are you committed, are you passionate about our work? i can't speak to these areas that are biographical or revelations or allegations. what we can say is if you're committed to the work you're welcome to do the work. bear in mind our naacp branch presidents represent an old volunteer army of social justice. we're not in the business of running racial background checks on people.

and so i'm not entirely clear about a number of questions that have been raised. what is clear is the work that needs to be done. we can't divert because we have a tv moment. >> i think people think you are spot on in that but you have some of those who say that this expands the conversation of race of what it means to be black in america. i'm sure you've heard many say that with rachel dolezal saying she identifies with being black. do you believe this expands the conversation on race in this country? >> here's what i believe expanded the conversation. when you have the nation's oldest civil rights organization

saying, come join us as we march in washington d.c. 860 miles focusing on racial profiling, protecting the right to vote. that expands the conversation. when you're walking, engaging dialoguing with people about the most critical problems of our country, that expands the conversation. i'm not entirely sure this reality tv moment, which is here today and gone tomorrow is a substitute for pushing for legislation to protect our children, to expand opportunity, to protect the right to vote that people bled and died for. that expands the conversation. i'm not entirely sure that this does. >> the other question i've got to ask you, and i think you were making some very valid points that things like this can distract the larger message of why the naacp exists and you've explained that very thoroughly. the other question you have out there -- and rachel dolezal did

not call herself this but many others have referred to this idea of being transracial, that one can identify with a different race and be that race. and i have to be honest there was a conversation just recently about a rapper who happens to be related to tom hanks' son who says he identifies with black culture, so he felt that he would say the n word because he identified with the culture that gave him some type of pass. there are those who then said why isn't he transracial if he's identifying with the culture of being black. so what are your thoughts on that? >> well americans has, for as long as i can remember america has identified with african-american culture, music and as thekt and aesthetic institutions.

i think that's relating to black culture. but just because one appreciates african-american culture, identifies with african-american culture does not give you the excuse to disrespect that culture. that doesn't mean -- because you listen to rap music, it doesn't mean you get to use the n word. nor does it mean that you can engage in misrepresentations and cause people to lose faith or confidence in you because of the lack of candor or honesty. so the point being here is let's appreciate the culture but let's not misappropriate it or malappropriate it. >> and let's not mistake the fact that you can help justice for everyone no matter your race and still be -- >> that's right. >> -- your identity. malcolm x and others have said that many times, that there is a place for everyone when it comes to justice for your authentic self. thank you for being here. i appreciate it.

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developing now, tropical storm bill is due to make landfall in texas any minute and coastal flooding is already being reported. here's a look at a boat launched now under water. that is near galveston posted on twitter in the last hour. they are still cleaning up from the deadly flooding three weeks ago, and joining me now, msnbc meteorologist bill cairns. bill, what is the story there now? >> the storm is now moving on shore. we're getting landfall as i speak. it's right along the coast. only about five more miles to go. this black line shows the path. notice this occurring to the west here. that actually helped houston a little bit, taking some of the heavier rains to the west of houston. corpus christi and victoria that is the area that will see the worst of it. the feeder band is to the north.

this is where the worst flooding will be. somebody will get a foot of rain. houston still could get squalling weather, maybe even a few tornadoes to be reported in areas of east texas in the next 24 hours. that happens with landfall systems. 10 inches possible down here to the south of houston. if houston gets five inches you will get flooding. houston gets flooding with 3 inches of rain. it's still in the cards but the worst of it is to the west. it takes it down to 40 miles per hour by tonight, and then look at the dallas-ft. worth area. 7:00 a.m. tomorrow morning, it's just to your south. morning rush hour in dallas, had he ever i rhawn will be-- heavy rain will be in the region. not just techs exxas, oklahoma thursday and friday. heavy rain arriving in texas.

we're going to be track tging for the next five days. alexander woodfox, one of the three of the angola three, still in prison today. woodfox spent more than 40 years in solitary confinement for the 1972 killing of a prison guard. the court ruled he must stay in jail after it hears arguments in august. his previous two convictions in the case were overturned because of bias. and there was another ruling ordered just days earlier ordering his immediate release. the case drew national and international attention to the use of solitary confinement in america's prisons. herman wallace was released in 2013 after 41 years in solitary but died only a few days later. robert king was released in 2001

after 29 years in solitary. today mr. king continues to campaign against abuses and the criminal justice system saying quote, i may be free from angola, but angola will never be free of me. he's also the author of the autobiography "from the bottom of the heap" and he joins me now from texas. thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. >> let me get first to your reaction of the judge's decision in that mr. woodfox will remain behind bars at least possibly through august. >> thank you, tamron. the fact that the judge ruled that mr. woodfox has to remain behind bars it was a disappointment especially to avid supporters. after 43 years and counting and after being overturned three times that he would be released on that date but apparently he

wasn't because of some other procedure that the prosecutor or attorney general released to get done, need the court to look at to do. i don't know. >> as i mentioned, you and mr. woodfox have received tremendous support, as well as herman wallace over the years, people bringing attention to what they see as inhumane prison conditions as well as injustice in that your conviction was reversed in 2001 allowing for your release. i know that you and the others have maintained that you were being punished for speaking out against what you saw as deplorable conditions within that prison. with that said this emotional roller coaster for mr. woodfox, i spoke to a professor who knows him well. what was it like? even for yourself after those two decades of solitary confinement and waiting to hear

if he would be released? >> yes, indeed it was an emotional roller coaster ride for supporters and myself. the court overturned my conviction at least twice. it was the third time it was overturned and i was out and released from prison. and i knew what has been going on with him in the past two years. he was released on his own recognizance, and that the judge reversed his decision again on him being released unconditionally. but he remained in prison and it has indeed been a roller coaster ride. however, he understands the process, and i spoke with him recently, and he understands that there is a process that he

needs to adhere to and he's confident that the mandate will stand. >> i know again, that your conviction was in 192001. the state had to acknowledge your innocence and set you free. at the time you wrote, we were caged up. i don't think a person can go through that and come out unscathed. you talked about having your feet shackled and your hands shackled and left in a solitary condition. through your struggle, through what has happened to you what's happened to mr. woodfox, do you believe that your voice has in any way, your case has changed the judicial system in this country? >> i would like to think that my voice, in conjunction with some of the voices who have in the last decade begun to look at the reexaminer of the criminal

justice system and my voice of the three which would become known and all of our supporters along with people at the national level. we think we left some pretty good inroads and impact on people reexamining the criminal justice systemment not just in louisiana but around the country as well. >> well i know that you've tried to move on with your life in many ways including you have this website called free lines where you make frrks, from your own homemade recipe my favorite in the world, pralines or pralines depending on which side of the country you're on. we'll let folks know free lines, which you have dedicated yourself to adding a little

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tonight the golden state warriors led by steph curry. win or lose prominent sports writers nationwide are arguing the case that lebron james deserves to be mvp of the game or the series because of his impressive work. that has never happened pap player on the losing team has never been named mvp. well actually it's unprecedented. l.a. lakers jerry west is the only player so i should say he was honored in 1969 for it so it's very very rare. among those who think king james deserves the honor even if the cavs lose "the daily beast" robert silverman, we've been battling during the commercial break over this nonsense. i said i want the cavs to win because i want lebron to get this trophy and then i want steph to add this to his career.

how is it possible that lebron james deserves mvp? as i mentioned, jerry west the only other time in 1969 losing team he becomes mvp. >> well, because what lebron is doing with this cavaliers team featuring a bunch of ex-anythingknicks is unprecedented. michael jordan in comparison never took a team this bad to the finals. and michael jordan never shouldered this much of the load. lebron james alone is accounting for 66% of the cavaliers' points. in game five of the 91 points lebron accounted for 70 of them. >> but steph krrks ucurry did it singlehandedly. >> steph curry has been getting better and better. finding ways to find a new shot and set his team maitmates up. steph curry has a team to step

up. lebron james is destroyer of worlds or as david roth said at vice sports it's like watching someone do telemetry while hanging on the wing of an airborne fighter jets. >> you sports writers are something in your description. there's a reason that only jerry west has been named mvp when his team lost because we come to expect the most valuable player has to be the winner. >> yes. but i think -- that's the traditional understanding. i think as we're starting to learn more and more about what creates value in a basketball game and how players create value on a court leading to wins, we're learning what lebron james is doing, is just so mind boggling impressive and doing it while playing 46 minutes per game. there's a bunch of scientists espn interviewed scientists from the english football league. with the amount of travel that he's doing and the amount of possessions he's taking and the

amount of shots he's taking the only equivalent feat to what lebron james is doing is riding in the tour de france. this is a feat of unprecedented proportion. >> sold. >> okay. good. >> steph curry takes home the victory. they wrap this series up. 40 years. and then lebron gets mvp. >> yes. >> so we all win. it's like suburban soccer. >> basketball fans win. >> we all score even whoa you didn't it. what does your gut tell you? i'm so so torn about this? do you think lebron james should be named mvp even if the cavs lose the finals? my friend has made an excellent case for this. are you buying it? go to newsnation.msnbc.com to cast that vote. that us the it for this very interesting edition of "newsnation." i'm tamron hall. up next, "andrea mitchell reports."

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right now on "andrea mitchell reports," race and identity. the now former head of the spokane naacp sits down for an exclusive interview. rachel dolezal tells melissa harris-perry she understands why some people are angry that she identifies herself as black. >> they don't know me. they really don't know what i've actually walked through and how hard it is. deadly collapse. five people are killed a block from the berkeley campus when a call balcony falls four stories from a brand new high rise. >> it looks like it may have collapsed from the fourth floor and struck the third floor balcony just below it. but we don't know specifically, you know how it's happened at this point so that's going to be all part of the investigation to determine what happened. on the trail. we are