em. >> the fear here is that all of this minutia could get lost in a long hot summer. that's the danger in all of this. >> no on fasttrack is what we have to tell our members of congress over and over. >> lori, good to hear from you tonight. "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. >> tonight on "politics nation,"" breaking her silence. rachel dolezal says she identifies as black, but does that excuse her deception? a cable news exclusive interview. also he's in for real. donald trump finally enters the presidential race and is already causing headaches for the gop. plus the first lady makes a big splash across the pond in london. welcome to "politics nation." tonight we start with the story

that has people all across the country talking about race identity and deception. rachel dolezal breaking her silence, speaking out in exclusive interview just the day after resigning from the naacp. >> are you an african-american woman? >> i identify as black. this goes back to a very early age with my self-identification with the black experience as a very young child. >> when did it start? >> i would say about 5 years old. >> you began identifying yourself as african-american. >> ways drawing self-portraits with the brown crayon instead of the peach crayon and the black curly hair. that's how i was pore trag myself. >> she identifies as black. for millions of americans, this

was the first time they've heard about this sort of thing. what exactly does it mean? in a cable news exclusive with msnbc's melissa harris perry, she talked about her identity in greater depth. >> i've heard a lot of people ask you the question are you african-american or caucasian. i'm not going to ask it that way. >> thanks. >> are you black? >> yes. >> what do you mean when you say that? what does it mean to you to assume the mantel the identity of blackness? >> well it means several things. first of all, it means that i've already gone there with the experience in terms of being a mother of two black sons and really owning what it means to experience and live black, blackness. >> when you respond to my question, are you black, and your response is yes, there are listeners who are enraged.

>> i understand. >> not confused. enraged. and many of those listeners, many of those observers who are angry are black women. >> mm-hmm. >> can you understand that anger? >> yes. and i would say in a -- stepping outside of myself i would probably be enraged. what the -- this person how dare she claim this. but they don't know me. >> this story has sparked an emotional sometimes angry debate about race in america. what does it mean to be black? to be white? is it really a choice? can you choose your race the way caitlin jenner chose her gender? and if you do do you have an obligation to tell the truth? well, let me bring in my guests. i have professor ann marney from nyu and the one and only

professor msnbc and my intellectual mentor, melissa harris-perry. thank you both for being on tonight. in your exclusive interview, you came right out and asked rachel are you a con person are you a con artist. let's play that. >> are you a con artist? >> i don't think so you know? i don't think anyone that i have done with regards to the movement, my work my life my identity, i mean it's all been very thoughtful and careful. sometimes decisions have been made for survival reasons or to protect people that i love. >> a lot of people angry, as you said to her, a lot of black women. i got it on my radio show today, a lot of people defending. how did you assess it after having this -- really you had the in department interview with

her? >> i had about an hour with her. before that time with both her and both of her sons. look i don't thing anyone knows -- i wouldn't marry someone after a first date for an hour. i don't know that i know her. my sense was that there was no malice in anything that she's doing. there may have been bad decisions or decisions that are difficult for us to understand, but that said i also think a moment ago you were talking about the idea of caitlin jenner choosing her gender. i think that most transgender people would say it was not having made a choice. >> that's right. >> that it is -- >> that's who they are. >> that it is who they are. it is almost impossible to imagine this for so many people but my experience of her was closer to that. not that she was choosing or putting on blackness, but that that felt like the authentic expression of herself. that when people were seen and receiving her as a black woman, that it felt more true more authentic to who she was. to whatever we may think about

that, that at least my experience of her was that she was being quite honest when she says, when i'm a black woman -- she go i'm a black woman, but she believes herself to be telling the truth when she says that. >> the question, professor, is that you can become culturally and even spiritually identify with a race but then you've got to also be free of any contradictions in that narrative. and i think when she told matt lauer the story of the color with the crayon when she was a kid, a lot of people could say, i get that. i know blacks that passed as white in school or passed as white to get jobs. but then she sued howard university as a white woman. so that's where the contradictions come up. you sue a black university saying you wouldn't let me do my job because i was white, but i thought you felt you were black all your life. >> i think the story that's really emerged here is a person

who over time, over the course of her lifetime has really gradually moved to embrace a black identity. because i think the story about the crayons aside, i think it's pretty clear that she was living as a white person. there wasn't a lot in her background that we have to go on that suggests that she was really embracing a really straightforward way of black identity. it was really coming in her college year which is a pretty typical time when americans today are exploring their racial identity. >> her brother melissa, ezra he is african-american descent. he said he doesn't view his sister as black. listen to this. >> if you're as white pretending to be black, i never viewed her as black. i viewed her as interested in african-american studies and trying to help with fixing racism and stuff, but i never really viewed her as actually black. i always viewed her as white.

>> how he views her, how she views herself is two different things. whatever the contradiction, she was in the naacp working. she was in the community working, and she related to black people. >> i guess i want to say a couple things. one step back to the howard case for just a second. so let me just say this. i think that one is really complicated and there are some questions there we need to ask, but let's just say that when she talks about -- i heard when she talked about it with matt lauer and with me it sounds like a gender discrimination case. but for those who know discrimination law, as i know you do you can't come in with both. if you have a good smart lawyer who has to make a decision how you're going to win your case gender discrimination cases are much harder to win. if i'm a good lawyer i tell you to sue on race rather than gender. i'm just saying that may be a possibility. >> i've done a lot of those, so i know lawyers do whatever. >> they do. >> bear the brunt of it. >> i just want to say we want to be careful. but that's part of what i want

to say here for me part of what's interesting here is we should focus on our reactions. this story is interesting and she makes ss for good tv. but the fascinating part is us our national desire to pick this apart. what we're actually policing is never blackness but what we're always policing is whiteness because that comes with the privileges and the goodies. i just want us to be careful as we draw real stark boundaries about who gets to have certain kinds of identities because my bet is in the end it is not really about protecting blackness, there's a set of values this is about protecting. >> but isn't that really the issue even in the black community, that we know about what is called white privilege, so therefore you've got to be suspicious if you're given a white privilege. there's something suspect about that. >> but we see what she's done is basically to put her life's work

to furthering the causes of the naacp. that's where the question of suspicion or her acting out of self-interest, the whole story gets murky. i agree with melissa that really the interesting story here is why are we all obsessing about this case? she's the embodiment of this collision course between old american definitions of what race is and new ways of thinking about race. we've got, on the one hand the old one drop rule kind of system. you had a race this you inherited from your parents biologically, you live with that your entire life it never changed. but now, you know in fact there is no such thing as racial blood, there's no such thing as white blood or black blood or white genes or whatever. we're grappling for new explanations of what racism is. >> redefine inging race, sex. americans that consider themselves multiracial. 29% of them used to think of

themselves as being of just one race. in other words their identity changed over time. we're in an identity transformative time now in america. >> i want to remind people who may not know that naacp leadership in a local chapter is an unpaid position. the number of times that i've heard, oh she did it to get a job, i just want to point out, that's a volunteer opportunity, right? so there's only a few people in the naacp that are paid they're not at the local level. the second thing is we've watched the social construction of race on our own president. i just want to point out the ways in which initially people said he wasn't black enough. then people said actually he's way too black. and then this idea that he's somehow foreign and not -- >> not american. >> and not american. i'm just saying all of those things are -- is she president obama? uh-uh, no but is there a similar set of anxieties here.

>> same discussion. melissa harris-perry, ann morning, thank you for your time tonight. make sure you catch more on melissa and her cable exclusive interview with rachel dolezal tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on "all in with chris hayes." be sure to catch melissa harris-perry weekends starting at 10:00 a.m. eastern right here on msnbc. and what do you think about it? the conversation is heating up online. find us on facebook and send us a tweet @politicsnation. coming up donald trump is running for president. it's not a reality show. and it could be a big problem for the gop. >> i'm really rich. i'll share you that. i will be the greatest jobs president that god ever created. also the first lady's trip

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there are times we all remember in politics. this will be one of them. donald trump is running for president. >> sadly, the american dream is dead. but if i get elected president, i will bring it back bigger and better and stronger than ever before and we will make america great again.

ladies and gentlemen, i am officially running for president of the united states and we are going to make our country great again. >> in a nearly hour-long rambling speech trump was, well very trump. confident, tough and original. but he did have the party's favorite campaign talking point. >> obama care kicks in this 2016. really big league. it is going to be amazingly destructive. we have to repeal obama care and it can be -- and and it can be replaced with something much better for everybody. let it be for everybody.

but much better and much less expensive for people and for the government. >> he went off script and at times it seemed like a trump stream of consciousness. whatever popped into his head he said. >> obama is going to be out playing golf. he might even be on one of my courses. i would invite him. i actually would say i have the best courses in the world. i would say i have one right next to the white house. how stupid are our leaders? how stupid are these politicians who allow this to happen? how stupid are they? and they don't know. are you running? are you not running? could we have your support? what do we do? but mr. trump, you're not a nice person. >> we don't need nice! >> that's true. but actually i am. i'm a nice person. i just told an apartment for $15 million to somebody from china.

i don't need anybody's money. it's nice. i don't need anybody's money. i'm using my own money. i'm really rich. i'll share you that. i would build a great wall -- and nobody builds walls better than me believe me. i will be the greatest jobs president that god ever created. i will find the general patton or i will find general macarthur. i would find the right guy, i will find the guy that's going to take that military and make it really work. so just to sum up i would do various things very quickly. and i promise i will never be in a bicycle race. that i can tell you. >> but he's in this race. and here's the thing. donald trump has name recognition. he doesn't hold back. and he will have impact because he's polling well.

in the real clear choice in the real clear politics average of national polls, he's in ninth place, which could land him on the debate stage beating out other contenders like rick santorum and john kasich. that means that the lineup at the debate would be impacted by trump just because of his polling standing on name recognition. but let me tell you this i ran for president. you prep you get ready for the debates based on your opponents. he will change every one of the contenders, the more serious ones have to prepare for the debate. he will change how the journalists questioning them have to prepare to ask questions and handle rebuttals. his presence on the stage, his reckless behavior his not going by protocol and decorum, him being there to come with the

zingers because he doesn't know policy would change the nature of those debates. he will impact this race. the question is who can handle him on that stage and come off as an adult that should be president or who does he go after and what does he do? don't dismiss him. he already will impact this race if he goes all the way. who else would i want to talk to about this than political strategist angela ryan and dana milbank milbank. it's official. dana how long and how much noise will donald make? >> i thought you were going to say how long have i been waiting for this. i was going to tell you my whole life. for someone who covers absurdity in politics this is a very big day. there's 9 billion reasons to take donald trump seriously and that's wa he tells the world his net worth is. money is everything in politics

reverend. it's not just getting in the debates and shaking those up. he can spend a lot of money on ads. he can be there in the early primary states. he can really shakepe the debate here. he has nothing to lose. one suspect he's in it for a lark to gain more publicity for himself. but his motive really doesn't matter. and you're absolutely correct. they're all going to have to contend with him. and it does make the serious candidates have to deal with this circus atmosphere because now the guy, president obama called a carnival barker is indeed going to be right there on the dance floor. >> and angela it is easy to mock and dismiss clearly that's easy and will be done. but the fact is serious guys pursuing this race and miss fiorina are going to have to decide now how do they run

against him. suppose he gets on the stage and starts mocking them. how do you prepare for that? when i ran you have to prepare how you're going to deal with candidate b, c, d. and how do you deal with trump and if he unleashes that money how do you deal with that and factor that into the terms of the appeal. i wouldn't be so quick to just pooh-pooh this away. >> he kind of pooh-poohed it himself, rev, with this 45-minute speech about nothing. first we have to deal with the fact that the xenophobic rant he went on and on about mexicans and them being racists and criminal -- i mean it was horrible. but he also had a xenophobic rant about china. and unfortunately, rev, you're talking about the serious candidates. some of them are using and speaking from the very same book of talking points. so as serious as some of them may think they are, we're still talking about a presidential candidate potentially who ran from green eggs and ham on the senate floor that is ted cruz.

so these folks aren't all, you know serious. i think the other thing that we need to talk about is the fact that this birther guy now has to deal with something else. i'm looking for the discloser person who will be the thorn in his flesh to talk about not this many page of accents he rolled out today but whether he's really going to file this financial disclosure. because all of this may be for naught if he needs to file what he has to file to be a presidential contender and that's the financial disclosure form. >> going to the 45-minute speech that angela referred to, he also went right after jeb bush. listen to this. >> bush is totally in favor of common corps. i don't see how he can get the nomination. he's weak on immigration and in favor of common core. how the hell can you vote for this guy? you just can't do it. >> in trump's eyes jeb bush is

the one to beat and he's going to be pounding on that. that can't be helpful. >> i think that's probably right. he did take shots at the others. he opened up with a veiled shot at rick perry talking about how he couldn't get the air conditioning working and how others couldn't get enough people to come to their kickoff events so how could they be president. that and the jeb bush line is a taste of what you'll get from him in terms of ads if he rubns them in terms of the debate if he's there on stage. jeb bush for all of them is the biggest target right now. but i suspect if trump does last through this you're going to hear him talk about all the candidates but mostly about himself. i counted from the transcript 229 references to himself made in that 45-minute speech which is really hard to do. >> well not for him. angela to show you how i'm saying you don't know where he's going, moments ago in an interview with abc, trump said

he would want his vice president to be this -- well let me show it to you. >> back in 1999 when you were thinking as running as a reform party candidate, you told larry king you'd consider oprah for vice president. >> i like oprah. what can i tell you? >> is she on your short list? >> she's great. she's talented she's a friend of mine. she's a great person. i'd love to have oprah, i think we'd win easily actually. >> somehow i don't think oprah's going to be on the trump ticket. >> not in the least bit. i think it's nice that he's considering oprah, but oprah needs to consider him first and oprah is already demonstrating where her allegiances lie, at least in the past we've seen her raging endorsement for president obama. and i just cannot see the fact that his politics which is so vastly different from our current president, i can't see her even endorsing him let alone -- i don't think he's going to get to this first debate, but we'll see. stranger things have happened. >> thanks to my senior trump

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lose their coverage. let me show you what senator john barrasso is saying. i want to do nothing to protect this law. i want to protect the people who have found that they thought they were following the law and now find the president is acting illegally. the people are benefiting from the law. what is he talking about? he wants to protect people from something that they're gaining from. but if you thing that sounds slightly bizarre, remember the tweet that senator thune did last week. senator thune writes 6 million people risk losing their health care subsidies, yet quotas continues to deny that obama care is bad for the american people. that's actually something he wrote. i makes absolutely no sense.

they're losing any form of logic because they don't have any plan on what they're going to do with the over 6 million people that would lose their health care if they win in the supreme court. and the majority of americans want these subsidies. look at the fact that in the recent poll that has now come out with the kaiser foundation if the supreme court rules against obama care subsidies, should congress pass a law that people in all states can be eligible for financial help? this is all about language of state and federal in the bill. 63% say yes. 63%. then independents 66% of independents say yes. even when you ask republicans 38%, over a third of republicans say yes. so the american people want this.

the american people are standing behind it. 6 million people are benefiting from it. they have no plan when you ask them it's going to be told by and by later on. and they come with these incoherent statements like senator thune and barrasso. it is in my opinion, politically disgraceful. let's talk about it with ryan grim and sherry sinter. could you understand senator barrasso trying to blame president obama? >> you know i guess? i mean he doesn't want to blame himself. you know, these republicans are kind of like the dog who has, you know, been chasing the car forever and now they've actually accidentally caught the thing and they've got their teeth, you know, in the wheels in the tire of this car and they don't know what to do with it. so they're kind of flailing around. you know but like you said

they don't have an alternative yet. and one of the reasons is that the gop alternative would actually look like obama care. a lot of people forget this was a heritage plan. the idea that you would create marketplaces, create competition among insurance companies and subsidize people to buy those plan, that was a conserveative right wing approach to reforming health care that democrats looked at and said this can makes some sense, let's implement this. it was only after obama decided to implement it following mitt romney that republicans decided they hate it. that's why they don't have the alternative. the alternative is the thing they're now trying to get thrown out in the supreme court. >> now today speaker boehner, he was asked about the republican plan if the supreme court rules against subsidies. listen to this. >> is there any republican plan to give back the subsidies to the millions who could lose this

them if this ruling goes a certain way? >> yes. >> they have a plan you'll know later. you'll know by and by. they won't say specifically what they're going to do if they cause over 6 million people to lose their subsidies on this little technicality that they're playing a word game on. >> yeah i think the subtext of speaker boehner's comments there were we're going to let the senate deal with that issue first. as you mentioned the senate has tried to kind of propose a couple you know half measures plans here and there, but there's no consensus. i used to think john boehner had the worst job in washington. i think that title now belongs to -- that dubious title now belongs to senate majority leader mitch mcconnell trying to corral his caucus into any kind of response. he's dealing with the

presidential candidates on one end, all the senators up for re-election in blue states at the same time and it's extremely hard when you're dealing with those factions to find any kind of consensus response to the supreme court's pending ruling. >> let me dig into that a little. because politico reports today on potential in the potential response to the supreme court ruling. they write, quote, the gop senators running for president starting but not ending with firebrand ted cruz threaten to stymie their leader's carefully hatched plans. quote, things can't be turned on a dime said senate majority whip john cornyn of texas. people can run for president, but we've actually got to solve a problem. ryan how can they solve this potential problem when gop senators like ted cruz will make it their mission to stop them? >> well they only need 60 votes to do it. and you're seeing a lot of unease within the republican

caucus. and this is before -- okay let's assume the decision comes down and it's a negative one and all of these people lose their health insurance. a year and a half ago, when people were losing just a handful of catastrophic plans and they were able to replace them with even better plans on the obama care exchanges, it was total bedlam. it was absolute political chaos. so if you extrapolate that out, a few people losing lousy plans to 6 million people losing really good plans and actually probably more than 6 million as it spirals out of control, the political pressure on the gop is going to be something that they're not going to be able to bear and it would buckle and push it through the senate and the house. they will remember how to function. ted cruz can filibuster all he wants but all they need is 60 votes to get him to stop. >> and to further elaborate on your point, not only do you have the presidential candidates you have the senators running for

re-election in some of these swing states and some of these states that have a lot of people on this plan. so you have them fighting for their own politics and you've got the presidential candidates you have the tea party crowd, you have the more moderate crowd, you've got a mess. >> you know who is a perfect example of this contradiction? u.s. senator ron johnson from wisconsin. one of the first republicans in the senate to kind of propose something that could fix something in reaction to the supreme court's decision and there's a reason for that. it's because he is up for re-election in 2016 running against the guy he defeated nearly six years ago, senator russ feingold and johnson is one of the most vocal on the map in 2016. he's trying to protect himself in his own state before his re-election. >> thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> still ahead, what you are saying on social media about

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probably be in a rage. i would like what the heck -- this person how dare she claim this? but they don't know me. >> that was rachel dolezal admitting that a lot of people are angry with her calling herself black. her story has sparked a lot of debate on social media. montel williams writes the truth is she lied. she's not a victim on the basis that she finds the questions asked inconvenient. sherri shepherd tweet, she's an intelligent woman. i just wished she would have done what she did as a white woman. that's a powerful ally. # use your gift. and on our facebook page fans have been weighing in. neil warren says imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. beverly mcintyre says it's ok to identify and embrace another

culture. it's not acceptable to fabricate and lie. well, let me walk over and ask my guests. i'm happy to have with us now amber pain who is the managing editor of nbc blk anded my win charles. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> let me ask straight-out amber, you interviewed rachel today. you asked her if there's an element of white privilege -- we talked about that earlier in the show -- that she took in choosing to be black. i want to play her response. >> i'm willing to acknowledge that there is privilege available to people with lighter skin that probably is a little more difficult to transform for people of darker skin. and i'm trying to answer it from my truth the best i can. along a spectrum i believe there's a window of privilege. light skin and white for visible

choices of racial identification. >> so what did you get from that? >> well, it was interesting. she was talking about this window of privilege and a spectrum, and she was including light skinned and white in that spectrum. one thing i took away and what a lot of people have been talking about online is this hijacking of even the biracial experience and rain pryor has been tweeting about that. even for light skinned people she set them back. now they need to get their black card. i'm a biracial person and i've had people question me. >> but you don't get what white privilege gets. >> i can't just change my skin and my hair. we talked about hair too, and hair being this assumption -- she talked about going through tsa and being part of that black experience. it was definitely hard for me to grasp how she had assumed that mantel of biracialness mixed, black, she combined them into a lot of thing.

>> i think the fact that she assumed this sort of identity she says that she's a black woman in and of itself a form of privilege. the fact that she can actually go ahead and do this at least to a point where it is convenient right, i mean in 2002 she sued howard university as a white woman because she didn't get an opportunity that she thought she deserved. so it was convenient for her at that point to be white, and then later on she decided, you know what? i think i'll morph, i'll shift and become a black woman because there are certain positions that i want that are typically easier for black women to get. and i think that's part of the problem that a lot of people have with this is this sort of lie and this deception in order to retain opportunities that typically black women had easy access to or easier access. >> amber in a piece in "time" magazine kareem abdul-jabbar writes this, lying to employers and the public you're representing when the lie benefits you personally and

professionally is deceit -- is a deficit, rather in character. however, the fight for equality is too important the all americans to lose someone as passionate as she is and who has accomplished as much as she has. how do you react to it? >> rachel talked a lot to me about just owning this black experience and being moved by it and wanting to be an ally. i asked her couldn't you be a white ally? couldn't a white woman mentor black girls. she almost spoke of it in a third person perhaps a white woman could do that but she really felt like the black lives matter movement is a black-led movement and to be a white person in that movement you can be with it but you can't lead it. i got the impression that she as an early age saw herself identifying with the black experience and the black struggle and she wanted be a part of it and lead it. that's how she sees herself now. >> as helping to lead it? >> yes, as helping to lead it. >> but the question is none of

us are perfect. all of us have made mistake. i've certainly made mine. i'm sure anyone else out there in the public has. it's bad enough they rely on you but worse when they can bring up half truths in many ways hurt your cause. in this situation, what you're raising, can this be used to do more damage than good and that may be why she resigned. >> it may be. the problem is -- and i understood where the naacp put out that statement in support of her because if they didn't then they would look as though you know what? we didn't do a good enough job vetting her. >> but you've had white presidents of chapters before. >> of course. >> you had whites start the naacp. we've had whites all of our organizations. >> that isn't the issue. the issue is the lying and deception. and if she's willing to lie about that what else is she willing to lie about? is this the type of person that

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