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and what happened to the people in these cars. >> hello, everyone it's high noon in the east. welcome to weekends with alex witt. a dramatic and moving scene in charleston, south carolina, a city in mourning today. hundreds of people from all parts of this country are paying their respects at a makeshift memorial outside the emmanuel ame church where six women and three men were shot to death wednesday evening. as the city grieves, the investigation into dylann roof deepens. the latest court documents show each victim was shot multiple times. law enforcement sources say roof bought the gun himself and they also say roof has spoken freely and admitted his guilt. the charleston sheriff's office says roof has had no visitors other than his attorney. we have two reports, msnbc's adam riess is outside the

emmanuel ame church and trymaine li lee. alex, what's going listen to? >> reporter: the arrest warrant is revealing what happened. dylann roof came here at 8:00 wearing a fanny pack. he walked in and joined the bible study class. about an hour later he started an argument with some of the members, stood up and began firing. multiple shots into these victims. one local report indicating he may have reloaded seven times. on his way out, he stands over one of the victims that survived and made some sort of a racist comment. at the same time the pastor's wife and youngest daughter were in a room inside the church cowering under a desk and finally we learned that the father and uncle of dylann roof were the ones who called authorities, turned him inn saying that is dylann roof in the picture and he has a .45-caliber handgun. i want to take you live now here at the church just to show you what's going on. we've had hundreds and hundreds

of mourners come by all day long all day yesterday dropping off flowers, prayers lots of emotion today, lots of tears. >> this is real. i mean this ain't something that just happened. this is real man. a lot of lives was lost a lot of families was affected. the whole city of charleston is affected. >> it's showing that we're standing together. we are not separate we are not individuals, we are one and we are coming as one. >> it's time for us to have the dialogue. everybody has to take down their defenses and stop being afraid because you know what? there's going to be a lot of stuff that comes out that might be hurtful. >> reporter: one common theme here is everyone is trying to make sense of it all. alex? >> adam i'm curious, has this been a steady stream all day. can you guesstimate the numbers and the description? it looks to me like it's black,

white, young, old, brown, it doesn't matter. there are people from all walks coming here today. >> absolutely. multicultural. we were here all day yesterday, hundreds of people thousands if you add it up between yesterday and today, a steady stream flowers, candles. all of this just trying to make sense and talk to each other and hug each other and cry together so much emotion here and trying to figure out how this happened why it happens and as one person who knows why and how in all of that the dylann roof. >> okay, adam riess, thank you so much. one of the most striking moments in this tragedy came yesterday when the families of the victims were given an an opportunity to speak directly to dylann roof at his bail hearing. instead of hate they had words of forgiveness and mercy. >> i forgive you. you took something very precious

away from me. i will never talk to her ever again. i will never be able to hold her again but i forgive you. you hurt me. you hurt a lot of people but god forgives you and i forgive you. >> we welcomed you wednesday night in our bible study with open arm ss. you have killed some of the most beautiful people i know. every finer in my body hurt ss and i'll never be the same. >> for me i'm a work in progress and i acknowledge that i am very angry. but one thing depayne has always joined in in our family with is that she taught me that we are the family that love built.

we have no room for hate so we have to forgive. >> while those families offer mercy, the criminal justice system is on the investigation and msnbc national reporter trymaine lee is at the detention center. trymaine, how much closer are investigators to understanding what happened and why? >> reporter: there are so many more questions than answers here in this community that is really stricken by grief. going back to that bond hearing yesterday, it was very difficult to listen to the outpouring of grief from the family. but that magistrate judge says $1 million bond for dylann roof for the gun charge. he said that it's up to a state circuit court to set bail for the nine murder charges that he faces. now going back to what adam mentioned that before dylann roof left the church he apparently uttered some sort of racially charged statement, some sort of racist statement. the department of justice said they are investigating this a

number of different possibilities but also as a hate crime. so while there's so many more questions and people in this community are wondering what could have motivated such hate to take nine lives in that church, nine innocent lives in that church investigators are just beginning what will ultimately be a long road even though dylann roof has apparently reportedly admitted his role in the shooting this is the beginning of a long road alex. >> and governor nikki haley says she believes it was, indeed, a hate crime. lots of talk trymaine about the fact that in the bail hearing yesterday the judge forcefully made a point of saying dylann roof's family is a victim in all of this. what's been the reaction to that and what's next for dylann? >> if ever there was a more poorly timed statement it was yesterday. folks on the ground already again gripped in grief and trying to understand what's going on and then for the judge to say you know basically look to these folks as victims even

though they are there living and breathing and figuring things out. but, again people understand that when it comes to violence there are victims on all side. but right now they've said it's time to mourn the nine people killed. what's next is again, the bail at some point may be revoked or set in the nine murder charges that dylann roof face. in the meantime, he's behind us in the detention center. >> okay. tra main lee, thank you very much there from there. a dramatic ending in tucson arizona. a pickup truck driver racing away from police crashes right through the intersection. the driver plowed through several other cars before his truck slid to a stop. the driver ran out of the camera camera's view. police used a taser to subdue the suspect. he was later taken to the hospital. officials say the truck was wanted for an ongoing felony investigation. two other drivers suffered non-life threatening injuries. incredible images show hundreds of thousands of tiny crabs

blanketing southern california beaches. crews are still busy cleaning the sandy coastlines from san diego to los angeles that have been marred by these creatures. typically the crabs are found in mexico but experts say warmer waters may be responsible for luring them further north and closer to the shore than usual. while most crabs are dying in hoards, some are washing back out to sea alive. in sports new york yankees slugger alex rodriguez made history friday night when he homered for his 3,000th career hit. it happened at yankee stadium in the bronx. rodriguez is the 29th major league baseball player to reach 3,000 career hits and the first to do it since derek jeter homered from the same batter's box in 2011. from there to the weather. the heat advisory in california as those wildfires continue to burn. smoke from the san bernardino mountains is being seen as far away as arizona. the fire is less than 10% contained. and then near fort worth, texas,

homes are being threatened in one neighborhood after tropical depression bill dumped rain on the state. reynolds wolf is here with the forecast. high, reynolds. alex we're keeping a sharp eye in parts of the midwest. storms may produce tornados heavy rain and hail. the areas most affected will be parts of the upper midwest including des moines and chicago. another big issue that we have is going to be the tropical depression, the remnants of bill driving to the east which will increase your rain chance. next storm will press in with that moisture already at the surface. which means more widespread shower activity expected for places like new york perhaps even into the jersey shoreline. definitely into places like washington, d.c., charleston, knoxville, louisville getting in on the rain action for today. tonight we see showers migrating up into new york city on to long island from roanoke to norfolk, places like charleston west virginia, we have thunder boomers. tomorrow we see them continue to migrate their way into parts of

maine into vermont and new hampshire. in the deep south, it won't be what you see but feel. excruciating heat in many places for today and tomorrow. high times in the south lane folks, you have to be careful out there. take it easy over the next several days. alex, let's send it back to you. still ahead, gun culture in america as yet another mass shooting grip this is nation. hear the latest on what the president had to say about gun reform. stay with us. head & shoulders with old spice. america's number one male dandruff brand. keeping you 100% flake-free. guaranteed. while smelling 100% handsome.

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we're looking at live pictures of charleston's emmanuel church where for the third day in a row mourners across every race and age and religion are coming together to offer flowers and prayers and sympathy for the nine lives lost in wednesday's shooting massacre. at the conference of mayors in san francisco, president obama reiterated his demand for gun reforms as the nation mourns for

the victims of a mass shooting. joining me with that story, nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker. kristen, good afternoon to you. we hear so much about these national conversations but it seems like the politics of guns in america feels insurmountable at times. >> it is the politics are so tough, alex. for all of the anger and sorrow in washington right now, there still seems to be very little appetite to take action legislatively. president obama who, of course once vowed to change washington has on this issue, like many others seemingly resigned himself to the fact that change just might be impossible. as the nation comes to grips with another mass shooting president obama is expressing his outrage. >> every country has violent, hateful or mentally unstable people. what's different is not every country is awash with easily accessible guns. >> even jon stewart channels his

remarks. >> i have nothing but sadness that once again we have to peer into the abyss of the depraved violence we do for-to-each other. >> still, the president seems resigned to the reality. there's little chance of new gun legislation while he's in office with strong opposition from many republicans to new gun laws even the governor of south carolina telling savannah -- >> they always want something to go after. there is one person to blame here. >> addressing the nation in the wake of a mass shooting is something the president has done more than a dozen times since taking office. a turning point, some thought, in 2012 when a gunman killed 20 children at sandy hook elementary school. >> we can't tolerate this anymore. >> reporter: lawmakers pushed for expanded background checks but even that couldn't get the votes. >> this was a pretty shameful day for washington. >> i can't think of a single issue that more kpimly phis his frustration with being able to

change this town than the gun control frustration. >> and while lawmakers are expressing their grief again, few are calling for change asinine families in south carolina prepare to bury their loved ones. in the aftermath of the sandy hook shoot, president obama announced 23 executive actions aimed at combatting gun violence including several to improve mental health services. there's no indication the white house is considered similar steps in this case. there are also more lawmakers, democrats and republicans, in congress right now who argue stiffer gun laws violate the second amendment. one more point, alex hillary clinton will address the u.s. conference of mayor this is afternoon and in just a few moments we expect her to touch on this issue as well. >> we know you'll be listening for us. thank you so much, kristen. is washington capable of the reforms and answers to this tragedy and what it demands? joining me now in south carolina is rick wade former senior advisor on president obama's election campaigns as well as

deputy chief of staff to former commerce secretary gary lock. rick, you heard the president talking about gun control but race is at the heart of this race. how do you think he might approach this overall? what can he best bring to this situation on both those fronts. >> alex thank you for having me. this is a time where america, the 90% of people in that poll that you just talkeds about, has to stand up. it's unconscionable and unacceptable that it takes a tragedy such as what happens just recently in my home state in south carolina and that has happened over and over and over before and it's time for americans to stand up and speak out. no one is trying to take away the right to bear arm bus we ought to have various safeguards and background checks and i've never understood the challenge and the dilemma to getting that done. so, again, unfortunately it -- perhaps this tragedy will propel members of congress and our leaders to address this issue in

a more forthright manner. >> i'm wondering if you've ever heard in the hallowed halls in which you've worked if you hear people, our elected officials, say up with thing because they think it's the politically correct thing to do to reflect their party or their constituents yet maybe privately they're whispering "yeah, we need gun control. things are out of control." do you think there's a disconnect there at all? >> alex unfortunately -- that is the unfortunate nature of plix. let me say this. in this unfortunate tragedy we just saw, there's a question that i hope that you and that america will begin to answer. one of the reasons, according to this murderer, this perpetrator, dylann, he said he engaged in this horrific heinous crime is because it was about what black -- the black race is doing to the white race i think that

question has to be answered because my opinion, the extremity of the rhetoric that we hear in the public discourse and the public domain it fuel this is type of hatred and violence. so i think that white america in particular needs to answer the question what is it that the black race are doing to the white race? because if we're going to get to the fundamentals of race in america, it must be a two-ended conversation and an honest and open and transparent one if we'll make progress in the days and weeks and months to come. >> i tell you, i'm feeling you and i hear these questions but then there is some encouragement, and i would hope you take this as well rick when you see the scenes going on right now outside that beleaguered church with that whole community. you've got people, young, old, white, black, brown, everybody is coming together and mourning together and supporting each other. i mean when you see that kind of

visual and that's portrayed across the country and headlines across newspapers talking about the deplorable state of thing, doesn't that give you some encouragement? >> >> it gives me a great deal of hope but it shouldn't take these tragedies, the loss of lives, to demonstrate our love and hope and what america is about. i want to see the same coming together and raleigh together in times of peace, not in times of tragedy so after the mourning and the families and they deserve the right to mourn and lay their loved ones to rest we have to make sure the lives of these victim weren't in vain. and this the lives that were taken and that's when i want to see a real -- i want to see the same dialogue when the cameras leave about love and compassion and addressing these core issues that have been divided america for so long. >> i tell you, rick, what we saw on camera that was extraordinary, at least we heard, was all the victims' family members essentially

forgiving dylann roof. you know this community. i cannot imagine how they have the capacity to forgive in their deepest moments of despair. how do you account for that? >> this is no surprise to people of faith and people of faith in the african-american community. this is what we do. let's recall even when there were racist attack dogs in the south in the 1960s, we prayed. we know how to forgive and it has been what our entire struggle has been about. i've got to do a sermon. before this church shooting was happening is i was planning on doing a sermon and my sermon now is different than what it was going to be. i have to address this issue of, look, how do you love -- to use the phrase of dr. martin luther king, jr., the strength to love even in these times of horrific tragedies. and i think prayer the center

of faith, emmanuel ame church represented that last beacon of hope that people have for prayer and thief close relationship with god it's supposed to be a place where people are reborn not where people die. >> rick wade i wish i could be in your congregation. i'm sure you will deliver a powerful and inspirational sermon, thank you for talking with us today. >> thank you for having me. still ahead, what a friend of dylann roof has to say about the shooter and why he believes that the racism accusation is wrong despite what roof is alleged to have said in the massacre. and a new study says that says the planet is on the brink of mass extinction and humans are on the list. audible safety beeping audible safety beeping

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to connect you to the people and places that matter. welcome back to "week we understand alex witt." donations of flowers, teddy bears, candles all being added to the sidewalk outside the ame church. last night at a memorial service, the mayor of the city said we all have one thing in common -- our hearts are broken. we're hearing a bit more from a friend of dylann roof who says roof recently made a threat to shoot up a college. it was a comment no one took seriously. nbc's mark potter is joining me now with more. so, mark what did he tell you? >> reporter:ly alex, on friday i talked with a young man who is 22 he lives in lexington, south carolina a two-hour drive in charleston here he lives in a trailer court and was friends with dylann roof. he said first of all he

scribbon, who is black, did not feel dylann roof was a racist they were friends. other people said they did see such evidence he said he did not. but the most stunning thing he said was a week ago wednesday when they were drinking and driving to a lake roof said -- and he had a handgun with him -- that he was intending a week later to go to charleston to shoot up the college of charleston. >> the school is three miles up the street from the church. that's why i say he couldn't get into that school so he settled for the church. the gun was in his name and licensed and he had permits to carry it and he did follow his rules about how you carry the gun in the car. i don't think he was in his right state of mind at all because dylann in his right state of mind doesn't do things like that. he doesn't talk like that doesn't act like that. >> reporter: dylann roof's next court hearing is in october. investigators are still investigating the case and say they are focusing in on making sure they have a successful

prosecution. alex? >> nbc's mark pot, thank you for that. the remarkable reaction of the victims' families to dylann roof in court on friday is making headlines across the country today. charleston's own "post and courier" has this headline "hate won't win." the front page of the ""tampa bay times"" has this one, "i forgive you." and the hartford currant"courant," "amid grief, grace." state police are investigating possible sightings of two men in steuben county near the pennsylvania boarder who may if it the descriptions of the escapees and a corrections officer has been placed on administrative leave as part of the ongoing investigation into the escape at clinton correctional facility. officials have released no additional information. let's bring in arthur roderick deputy assistant director at the department of homeland security and a former assistant director for investigations at the u.s. marshal service. welcome to you, arthur. let's talk about these two men.

they escape on june 6. the fact that they've been out so long how does that affect the odds of recapturing them? >> i think it does affect the odds because within a couple days you capture these individuals but in this particular case this is obviously a well-planned escape and you're seeing a transition from the manhunt phase into a traditional fugitive investigation and eventually the u.s. marshals and the new york state police working together will get these individuals. it's just a matter of using the standard practices they use everyday in all fugitive investigations. >> arthur, i'm curious, to what extent does the public being properly informed and involved keeping your eyes out, how much does that play into this? to that point, with the police announcing that they are investigating a possible june 13 sighting, that's a week ago, why would police have waited seven days before making this public. >> well i mean that's a good question and i think they're

being cautious not to let out all information. this has been pretty much on the news everyday every hour and their pictures have been blasted all over the press and with that type of uptick in information being put out the the public i think they thought they might have had a very good lead here on the pennsylvania border and wanted to fully investigate it before they released the information. they could also have information that they're possibly heading further in that direction or into pennsylvania state itself. that's probably why they ended up releasing that information a week later. >> arthur, is there a way for investigators to figure out if these guys have cell foenls or s orphones or computers or something that may have been given to them? they could track that with pings or would they have to have the numbers first? >> they have pretty high tech tracking equipment. the marshals, that's one of the great things the marshal service

does. they're pretty much experts in that particular area and it does help if you have the phone numbers. but they could be looking at associates and relatives and family friends, boyfriend, girlfriend, husband. they could be looking at those numbers also to see if there's any unusual calls coming in from the target area to those numbers. that's one of the basic principles we use. we tried to come up with the way that the individuals are communicating is with their support system. >> a corrections officer, as you know, at that prison has been put on administrative leave as part of the investigation, no details were released. what do you make of that? >> well i mean i think obviously the information that mitchell has regarding the escape itself is going to be the key to this whole investigation as far as the escape and the escape conspiracy goes. obviously there might have been other involvement. there could be some administrative issues that this

person was suspended for but it's going to be very interesting to hear this whole story when it comes out about her involvement and others in the facility possible involvement from them. >> how surprised are you, though arthur, that this pair has evaded capture for this long? even though joyce mitchell, the alleged accomplice, has been arrested? does it suggest an alternate plan to you? >> it does suggest an alternate plan and i think whatever information mitchell had was pretty still a very shortly after the escape. so they might have had a plan "b" already set up where somebody else might have picked them up and that they continued to string her along in hopes that they would continue their relationship outside of prison and i think that's probably exactly what occurred. as far as them being out this long, yes, i am surprised and you know the bigger question is are they still together or are v they split up? >> that's a very good question which we have no answer to at this point. arthur roderick, thank you very much for your expertise and insight.

we'll take you to san francisco right now. hillary clinton is addressing the conference of mayor, let's take a listen in. >> so much left to do. as a mother, a grandmother, just as a fellow human being my heart is bursting for them. for these victims and their familiesa wounded church and country. for our country struggling to make sense of violence that is fundamentally senseless and history we desperately want to leave behind. yesterday was juneteenth a day of deliberation and deliverance. 150 years ago as news of president lincoln's emancipation proclamation spread from town to town across the south free men and women lifted their voices in

song and prayer. congregations long forced who worship underground like the first christians joyfully resurrected their churches. in charleston the african methodist episcopal church took a new name emanuel, god is with us. just as early generations threw off the chains of slavery and jim crow this generation will not be shackled by fear and hate. [ applause ] on friday one by one grieving parents and siblings stood up in

court and looked at that young man who had taken so much from them and said "i forgive you." in its way, their act of mercy was more stunning than his act of cruelty. it reminded me of watching nelson mandela embrace his former jailers because he said he didn't want to be imprisoned twice -- once by steel and concrete, once by anger and bitterness. in these moments of tragedy, many of us struggling with how to process the rush of emotions. i've been in charleston that day. i'd gone to a technical school trident tech. i had seen the joy, the confidence, and optimism of

young people who were now serving apprenticeships with local businesses, black, white, hispanic, asian, every background. i listened to their stories. i shook their hands. i saw hope and the prides and by the time i got to las vegas i read the news. like many of you, i was so overcome. how to turn grief, confusion into purpose and action. but that's what we have to do. for me and many others one immediate response was to ask how it could be possible that we as a nation still allow guns to fall into the hands of people whose hearts are filled with hate. you can't watch massacre after massacre and not come to the conclusion that as president

obama said we must tackle this challenge is with urgency and conviction. [ applause ] [ applause ] now i lived in arkansas and i represented upstate new york. i know gun ownership part of the fabric of a lot of law abiding communities. but i also know that we can have common sense gun reforms that keep weapons out of the hands of criminals and the violently unstable while respecting responsible gun owners. [ applause ]

what i hope with all of my smart that we work together to make this debate less polarized, less inflamed by ideology more informed by evidence so we can sit down across the table, across the aisle from one another a and find ways to keep our communities safe while protecting constitutional rights. it makes no sense theyat bipartisan legislation to require universal background checks would fail in congress despite overwhelming public support. it makes no sense that we couldn't come together to keep guns out of the hands of domestic abusers or people suffering from mental illnesses,

even people on the terrorist watch list that doesn't make sense and it is a rebuke to this nation we love and care about [ applause ] the president is right. the politics on this issue have been poisoned. but we can't give up. the stakes are too high. the costs are too dear and i am not and will not be afraid to keep fighting for common sense reforms and along with you achieve those on behalf of all who have been lost because of this senseless gun violence in our country. [ applause ] but today i stand before you

because i know and you know there is a deeper challenge we face. i had the great privilege of representing america around the world. i was so proud to share our example, our diversity, our openness, our devotion to human rights and freedom. those qualities have drawn generations of immigrants to our shores and they inspire people still. i have seen it with my own eyes. and yet bodies are once again being carried out of a black church. once again racist rhetoric has metastasized into racist violence. now it's tempting it is tempting, to dismiss a tragedy like this as an ice lathed-- isolated

incident. to believe that bigotry is largely behind us. that institutionalized racism no longer exists. but despite our best efforts and our highest hopes, america's long struggle with race is far from finished. i know this is a difficult topic to talk about. i know that so many of us hoped by electing our first black president we had turned the page on this chapter in our history. i know there are truths we don't like to say outloud our discuss with our children. but we have to. that's the only way we can possibly move forward together. race remains a deep fault line

in america. millions of people of color still experience racism in their everyday lives. here are some facts. in america today, blacks are nearly three times as likely as whites to be denied a mortgage. in 2013 the median wealth of black families was around $11,000. for white families it was more than $134,000. nearly half of all black families have lived in poor neighborhoods for at least two generations compared to just 7% of white families. african-american men are far more likely ton stopped and searched by police charged with crimes and sentenced to longer prison terms than white men.

10% longer for the same crimes in the federal system. in america today, our schools are more segregated than they were in the 1960s. how can any of that be true? how can it be true that black children are 500% more likely to die from asthma than white kids? 500%. >> more than half a century after dr. king marched and rosa parks sat and john lewis bled. after the civil rights act and the voting rights act and so much else how can any of these things be true? but they are. and our problem is not all kooks and klanssmen. it's also the cruel joke that goes unchallenged.

it's the offhand comment about not wanting "those people" in the neighborhood. let's be honest. for a lot of well-meaning open-minded white people, the sight of a young black man in a hoodie still evokes a twinge of fear. and news reports about poverty and crime and discrimination evoke sympathy, even empathy. but too rarely do they spur us to action or prompt us to question our own assumptions and privilege. we can't hide from any of these hard truths about race and justice in america. we have to name them and own them and then change them. you may have heard about a woman in north carolina named debbie dills. she's the one who spotted dylann roof roof's car on the highway. she could have gone about her business. she could have looked to her own

safety. but that's not what she did. she called the police and then she followed that car for more than 30 miles. as congressman jim clyburn said the other day, "there may be a lot of dylann roofs in the world, but there are a lot of debbie dills, too. she didn't remain silent." [ applause ] well neither can we. we have a way to build the most inclusive society, where there is a place for everyone. we americans may differ and bicker and stumble and fall but we are at our best when we pick each other up when we have each other's back. like any family our american family is strongest when we

cherished what we have in common and fight back against those who would drive us apart. mayors are on the front lines in so many ways. we look to you for leadership? time of crisis. we look to you everyday to bring people together to build stronger communities. many mayors are part of the u.s. coalition of cities against racism and discrimination launched by this conference in 2013. i know you're making reforms in your own communities. promoting tolerance in schools, smoothing the integration of immigrants creating economic opportunities. mayors across the country are also doing all they can to keep our streets and neighborhoods safe. and that's not all. across our country there is so much that is working. it's easy to forget that when we watch or read the news. in cities and towns from coast

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cities like cleveland and lexington are linking up their universities and factories -- >> we've been listening to hong kong addressing the conference of mayors in san francisco where she got rousing applause there from those. it's a bipartisan group, of course, talking about the reaction to the church massacre there in south carolina as well as the politics and the difficulty of the politics and the pursuit of gun control in this country. she also talked about the difference in the races right now with remarkable statistics she rather incredulously said reflect ours time here in 2015. joining me right now is john ralston ralston, the host of "ralston live." john, i know you got a chance to interview hillary clinton. what did you make of her remarks just now? >> well i thought the phrasing was fairly powerful alex it took a couple days. she had just arrived in las vegas and i talked to her a little bit about what happened in charleston and now you can see it's had a chance to sink in. and now she's trying to paint a

picture for america of what this means trying to put in the context as you mentioned talking about the different lives that african-americans and especially african-american children lead in this country and the problems almost what seems to be the intractable problem of race in america and she brought up guns too in a fairly unscripted moment with me and it's very difficult to get hillary clinton off script. she said "let's doubt the chase. it's about guns." the problem, of course is that after every one of these incidents, aurora newtown, they talk about more laws but the power of the nra in washington is so almost absolute that you can have 80% of the people for what she calls common-sense reforms like universal background checks and it's stifled in congress. >> it's remarkable when you think about the power of the nra yet you see that 90% of americans want some sort of gun

control. they want these heinous tragedies to stop. you heard the applause i would have loved to have that camera turned around when it was on hillary clinton. that was a long, sustained, loud applause from everyone there in the audience. all those mayors, the ones on the front line they're the ones dealing with the tragedies in their backyards. you mentioned the nra. what did she say in her interview to you regarding the strategy. but doesn't she believe you can still work with the nra to some degree and find some sort of compromise? >> she talked a lot about how many gun owners will accept what she calls common sense sensible gun reforms and i know gun owners in nevada who are willing to vote for universal background checks. there's going to be a ballot question in nevada. but the devil is in the details in these thing, alex. you're going to ban one gun but not another? it's very very difficult to write these laws and, of course everyone says they want to keep

guns out of the hands of the mentally ill. but then there are the ones on the -- in the nra who say, listen, any gun control law is the nose under the tonight try to confiscate our guns and they use that kind of rhetoric. they raise money off of it. they scare politicians with that kind of rhetoric. so it depends on how you find common sense and sensible and the nra doesn't want to hear those words. >> john, listen we took this interview live -- this statement live from hillary clinton. we have to cut your time short. i know you did speak with her about immigration and trade and i appreciate that. john, we'll talk about that another time. thank you so much for joining us this time though i appreciate it. >> thank you alex. after decades of debate, the confederate flag continues to fly over the south carolina statehouse. what the naacp president has to say about that next.

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today and send a message -- hate won't win. the tears and the support as charleston grieves. >> horrific event has brought us so much closer together than we can ever have thought of. we're uniting as people and not dividing. >> also today, why families chose to forgive the accused killer. this as new information about him is revealed. the open invitation to the gop from a chicago minister who says democrats let him down. and how a couple of hit films could save hollywood's summer. welcome to weekends with alex witt. a dramatic and moving scene at this hour in charleston south carolina, a city in mourning today. hundreds of people from all parts of the country are paying their respects at a makeshift memorial outside the emanuel ame

church where six women and three men were shot to death wednesday evening. as the city grieves, the investigation into alleged gunman dylann roof deepens. the latest court documents show each victim was shot multiple times. law enforcement sources say roof bought the gun himself and they also say roof has spoken freely and admitted his guilt. the sheriff's office said roof had no visitors other than his attorney. adam riess is outside the emanuel ame church for us. i imagine it's been a steady stream since the last time i talked to you. >> it continues here. we want to get to mourners and church leaders who have just come out. the arrest warrant is indicating more about what happened here wednesday night the night of the shooting dylann roof came in about 8:00. he was wearing a pouch on his waist. he entered the bible study. he stayed there for about an hour and at that point there was some discussion and he got into an argument with the bible study.

that is when he stood up and opened fire little them multiple times than on his way out. he stood over one of the victims and made some sort of a racist comment. also at the same time pastor pinckney's wife and youngest daughter were in the church office cowering under a table calling 911 and finally we learned that the father and the uncle of dylann roof were the ones who called authorities, alerted them that that is dylann roof and he has a .45-caliber handgun. i want to bring you back out here live just to give you a shot of the mourners who continue to stream in here in charleston, black, white, lots of tears, lots of emotion and i want to point out they're going back in right now but church leaders had just come out, taking a look at the crowd. they're discussing whether or not they want to have services tomorrow. there is some indication that they're going to make every effort to have services. i want you to listen to what some of the people here have to

say. say. >> i was born here, i was raised here from charleston and i want to show my condolences and pay my respects. >> i hope it brings the community together more now. i'm not saying it wasn't before but even more now and we could just go on from here is and just come together as one. >> the main thing i want people to know is that those nine individuals who -- i don't even know them personally those are our brothers and sisters in christ. >> incredible raw emotion here today. church leaders have told me they're going to make every effort to open up church for sunday services tomorrow. alex? >> okay adam thank you so much. their thoughts are inspiring. i appreciate that. of course, nine lives were lost during the attack wednesday night and they are being remembered with fondness and despair. nbc's ron allen is in charleston with their stories. ron? >> reporter: alex, the shrine and memorial here continues to grow with mourners coming by to

pay their respects. so many of them still having trouble trying to comprehend what happened here. as we learned more about those who tragically lost their lives, we're hearing incredible words of forgiveness. nine faithful souls bound by a love of faith and family gunned down. the oldest 87, the youngest just 26 at their weekly bible study. when the alleged killer appeared in court on a video screen something remarkable happened. when the victims' family confronted him. 70-year-old ethel lance's daughter. >> you took something very precious away from me. i will never talk to her ever again. i will never be able to hold her again. but i forgive you. >> later a sister of reverend depayne middleton-doctor, a 49-year-old counselor and mother of four. >> she taught me that we are the family that love built. we have no room for hate so we

have to forgive. i pray god on your soul. >> reporter: forgiveness, if not mercy, for a man who allegedly sat with the victims before gunning them down. sources told nbc news the gunman said he almost didn't go through with it because everyone was so nice to him. tywanza sanders, 26, a recent college grad pleaded with the gunman to shoot him instead of his aunt. the unnamed grandmother of a five-year-old girl saved their lives, relatives have said by lying on top of her while the child played dead. there that night was their pastor clementa pinckney also a state senator. sources tell nbc news his wife and their daughter daughter hid in a church office and called 911 as the shooter knocked on the door. cynthia hurd 54 being remembered as a dedicated librarian, decades of service, a branch to be named after her now. >> in one sense, she'll be remembered for where she was when she died, in the church. >> in a sanctuary so viciously

violated, the alleged killer showed the relatives no emotion as he listened. >> i forgive you and my family forgives you. but we would like you to take this opportunity to repent. >> reporter: the criminal justice system will probably not be so compassionate. if convicted, there are calls for the alleged killer to face the death penalty. alex? >> all right. ron allen in charleston thank you for that ron. coming up i'm speak with marc morial of the national urban league about what happens in charleston. that's coming your way at the bottom of this hour. while south carolinians are coming together there remains a passionate debate over the confederate flag that continues to fly over the government buildings across the state and delight in charleston. is it heritage or hate. just a few hours ago, mitt romney tweeted the flag should be taken down. "remove it now to honor charleston victims" he wrote.

and naacp president cornell william brooks weighed in. >> it's time to bring the flag down, to retire it, to put it in its ignoble grave. it does not represent the majority of south carolinians or all of south carolinians and it certainly doesn't represent all of america. >> the public though seems more divided. an nbc news poll confided that 49% see it as a symbol of southern pride while the other 49% see it as a symbol of racism. joining me now is jason johns, professor of political science at hiram college and joel sawyer former director of the south carolina republican party. gentlemen, welcome to you both. jason, i'll ask you this question. is it possible to have regional pride without being proud of all the history of that region? >> yeah of course it's possible. but it's also possible that somebody can murder a bunch of people and be mentally ill and still be a racist. i think the problem that we often have in this discussion of the flag is that everyone wants to focus on one part of the

symbolism instead of just being honest. this is a flag of a former enemy of the united states that was based on the abuse and death of a certain kind of people. there's no place for that in modern political discourse. never has been. >> joel you just heard from mitt romney. what is the argument for keeping the flag? what's the point of it if so many people fear it and are offended by it and by our latest poll fully half of the people feel that way. >> i don't think there is a compelling argument for it. i've long said it should come down. i don't think it has any place in front of a government building, displayed prominently at the statehouse. just one slight correction i would make to something you said earlier, it's not on top of any government building it's in front. but that's still too much for me. i mean i think it's a divisive symbol and needs to i go away. >> do you think that this may be enough to compel governor nikki haley to have this conversation? >> you know it's quite possible. unfortunately, it's not just up to governor haley, it's up to

the entire legislature. when the flag was removed in 2000 to its place now there was a two-thirds vote mechanism written into its current display area. so basically it can not even be removed or taken to half-staff or anything like that absent a two-thirds vote of the legislature. legislature. absent a ladder and pair of scissors, it won't come down without legislative action. >> jason, former congressman from georgia, ben jones, on msnbc this morning, he argued that slavery is the american sin, not just the southern sin and that the stars and stripes also flew over slave-owning land. what's your response to that? >> well it's true and it's history. but the important thing for me and i think this is why i say we have to bring in politics when it comes to these tragedies is even if the flag got removed tomorrow, that's not going to bring clem pinckney back and that's not going to bring back walter scott and that's not going to stop voter i.d. laws

from being promoted it won't stop jeb bush from claiming he wants to run for president but at the same time saying he favors voter i.d. laws and doesn't want to admit this was a racist attack. i think sometimes we can focus on things that are symbolic and not say there are structural institutional and policy things that need to change here. and while removing the flag may be one small step it's not bringing back anybody's lives. there's more work to do than just this. >> joel specifically getting to the shooting we hear a lot of talk about gun reforms and mental health reforms but not a lot of politicians want to talk about race. and there are witnesses from this terrible event who claim that the alleged shooter dylann roof made these specific remarks to the victims. he has been seen wearing white supremacist insignia on his clothing. is the real issue being ignored? >> i don't know that it's being ignored at all. i think there is certainly a conversation starting, maybe even long overdue conversation about race and the role that

continues to play in south carolina particularly in tragedies like this. i don't know that it's being -- nor that people are talking about it and hopefully it's a conversation that will continue. >> but it's a difficult issue, jason. as you know there are no easy policy answers. so so what can really be done? >> well first we have to all -- and alex you're doing a good job of this lots of people are doing a good job -- we have to hold our political leaders accountable. if you can get mad at hillary clinton and president clinton for not calling benghazi terrorism, we can get mad at people for not calling this terrorism and racism. we have to look at the antiseed dents to these kind of policies. we can have disagreements of what is and is not racism but we can look at the motivation behind voter i.d. laws. what we can look at is the motivation behind segregation policies. these are things we can address whether or not we agree on what the roots of these things are.

that's what needs to be fixed now. the discussions of r the symbolic thing, we have time for that. but there's policies on the ground that can be changed. >> joel, how confident are you that a tragedy like this can become a turning point for race relations throughout the country? can this finally be it? >> i wish i could say that i was confident. it's an opportunity and it's a matter of whether or not americans will take advantage of that opportunity to make it a turning point. guys clearly it's the beginning of a long conversation, one we've been having and continue to do. jason and joel, we'll be back. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. we've been asking you today what do you think should happen to the confederate flag. here's your treats. "the confederate flag should be taken down from the statehouse. it represents division and hate." joe tweets "the flag is unpatriotic and represents hate and racist groups love that flag. southern pride can be shown with state flags." "it is a symbol of hate not

historically but even at this hour." and kevin plantz tweets "we need to take that flag down. there's no reason to live in the past unless we want to keep our mind-set there." keep talking to me my handle is @alexwitt. we'll go back to the church in charleston where neighbors and strangers are coming together after the horror. you'll hear more about those who died plus the hugs, the prayers and the respect being given there today. >> i only moved here about a year ago and i wasn't sure at that time -- i don't know if this is the place for me to live but i told them i don't think i've ever been more proud to live anywhere my whole life. because no one is talking retaliation, everybody's talking about a respectful decent way to honor the ones that were lost. ♪ don't let'em pick guitars and drive them old trucks ♪ boys?

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important for to mourn, heal and begin the process of burying our dead before we get into any other controversial or political issues issues. >> i know that church is part of that community. it's been a difficult decision. there's been a lot of back and forth as to whether or not to hold church services there tomorrow. i believe the last word is they will not be having church services. talk about what goes into that decision. >> i don't think any decision has been made at this point. i'm hopeful that i can walk up those steps tomorrow morning at 9:00 and show the demons and evil that nothing can stop emanuel ame church from functioning normally in spite of this tragedy. >> there's a big debate right now as to whether to refer to this church shooting as a hate

crime or domestic terror. but you have labelled it as racially motivated terrorism, is that right? >> that's what it is to me. yes. >> tell me about that. talk about your reasoning. >> well i mean bottom line of any terrorism activity is hate. how can we make a separation between the two? one feeds the other and since this really is racially motivated, i do think that it is racially motivated terrorism. >> moving forward though william, you may have heard my conversation with jason and joel before this commercial break. it's such a difficult topic to try to find a solution to. certainly with public policy. what is the next step going forward? what do you want to see done? >> what i want to see done is

for the media and everyone to allow us to mourn and heal and forgive so that we can plan pray and develop the appropriate policy to make sure that this does not happen again. >> and to what extent does that involve elements of potential gun control in your mind? >> i mean i think that we're going to have a lot of time after we bury our dead and heal to talk about some of the political issues and ramifications of this massacre. but right now i think it would be inappropriate for me as a trustee and a member of the church and also as a city councilman to politicize what is definitely something that has been tragic and hurts all the citizens of this city and more

specifically the emanuel family. right now we don't want to politicize it. we just want to mourn, heal and forgive and then move forward on whatever other actions we may have to take to make sure this doesn't happen again or make sure some of the issues that you just mentioned that we take a position on. but now is not the time to do that. >> william, i've got to think that you must be tremendously proud of your faith community there in that church. they have been an inspiration by the way they have bonded together. to what do you attribute that to look at these people and say we should adopt some of that in our lives? >> well as a church family, we are very hopeful and we teach the philosophy that living without slope living in continuous darkness and we feel that hope peers through this

darkness and we'll see the light. and we'll see the light in the mourning. and we think that this is really morning not just for our city and our church but for this country and that our church, emanuel ame, the pillow of african-americanism is that light. and we think that the sacrifices that have been made is nothing more than mourning in the city of charleston, in the state, and in this country. we will be the light of this city and this country with regard to racism. >> william gregory, well said. our thoughts are with you and your fellow parishioners thank you for your time. >> and thank you for having me. >> you're welcome. ly speak with national urban league president and ceo marc morial about the decision to forgive and what it has meant to people not affected by this violence. plus, the chicago pastor on what he wants to hear from republicans in the race for president. .

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welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." we have new information coming in right now on alleged church shooter dylann roof. a web site has been discovered featuring a 2400 word white

supremacist j.d. and dozens of photos of roof someone using his name and his mother's home address bought the site domain in february. nbc news has not confirmed the site's authenticity knorr whether roof is the creator. the writer describes his views on race disparaging black people jewish people hispanics and east asians. let's bring in msnbc law enforcement analyst jim cavanaugh. jim, what kind of thing do you make of this that roof may have created his web site. noting that nbc news cannot confirm the site's authenticity. >> even before we see that site let's look at roof and the evidence before us. clearly, clearly the motive is racial hatred. this guy is a two-bit loser coward, a racist terrorist thug. he's using narcotics, he won't work and blames his troubles on others and spews out hatred and

bigotry. the symbols on his jacket with apartheid, the racial slur during the murder he told a surviving victim why he killed them because he hates african-americans, he went to this iconic church. if someone is looking far motive other than racism here you have to question what they're thinking about. this is not mental illness. this is clearly clearly racial hatred inspired by the web just like an isis killer is inspired. when an isis killer comes forward, alex we don't say "he's mentally ill." this guy is a racial thug, a terrorist, a hater and he did it for those reasons. the motive is crystal clear. >> you mentioned isis. if again, this web site honestly attributed to dylann roof and things like isis how do extremist, individuals and groups, how do they use these web sites to get their message out? >> well, they've been doing this for 50 years in the white hate

arena. they used to use pamphlets, we'd see them over the neighborhoods then they use the web sites to great effect. they stand back. they're looking -- they build a mountain of hate in the talk and they're hoping it becomes a volcano and spews out one of these guys like roof and that they're not connected to it. so it's by design to constantly talk about hate and push these guys out and they become the lone actors or one or two together, like mcveigh or something. they get pushed out. they're there, all around they're loouzers like this guy. i'm just amazed we're looking for some other motive. the motive is so clear and there's tons of facts to support it. he had the murder weapon with him, he has an eyewitness there, there's video surveillance. he's telling the agents and detectives he did it, the proof is overwhelming, the motive is overwhelming. we don't need to figure that one

out. >> but how do you find someone like this before he strikes? >> well let's look at his arrest record. he was arrested for narcotics. the federal firearms law says when grow to purchase a guane and if you're an unlawful user or addicted to narcotics you can't by a firearm. but the case law says you have to have a pattern of narcotics activity. so the congress and the lawyers need to revisit these laws. it specifically says you can't be an unlawful user of narcotics and purchase a gun. here's a guy arrested in february with narcotics and yet a few months later he's allowed to purchase a gun. >> april. >> so we have case law from the circuits that says it has to be a pattern and an ever evolving changing pattern. we might need to revisit that. >> we hear so much about tracking foreign terrorists we look at their online footprint.

domestically, do law enforcement agencies do the same thing? >> well they do but we have to look at the criminality first. we can't track them because of their views, that's free speech. atf used to be keep in this fight. i think that's changed. i think the attorney general should go back to the director of atf and say we want you deeper in this fight. we want you more in the fight infiltrating the militiamen and the domestic terrorist hate groups and they can coordinate with the fbi and the police for sure but atf was a key in this and i think they've sort of dropped back out of it. they need to get deep in that fight, they need to be in there infiltrating those group pulling out lone actors on the gun charge explosives and bombs because they's been their achilles heel and that's how we took them out. they couldn't kill or bomb or shoot, alex unless they used weapons and we need to be looking at that all the time. not for their views but when criminal activity is afoot, when we hear information about it we used to go after them very hard and i think that's dropped off

significantly. >> jim cavanaugh, thank you so much. appreciate your insights as always my friend. appreciate that. meantime, a dramatic and moving scene in charleston south carolina, a city in mourning today. hundreds of people from all parts of this country came to this makeshift memorial outside of the prime minister ame emanuel church. strangers offering their support to the community. >> this is real. this ain't something that just happened. this is real. a lot of lives was lost. a lot of families was affected. the whole city of charleston is affected. >> it's showing that we're standing together. we are not separate we are not individuals, we are one and we are coming as one. >> it's time to have the dialogue. everybody has to take down their defenses and stop being afraid. there is stuff that might come out and be hurtful. when you truly know the word,

the word is love god is love. that's how you forgive. it's a hard thing to do not saying you're not hurt but because you know got and you know god the a loving and forgiving god. >> when you pull on the block and you see everybody has come together, you have all races here kids young, old people young people. it amazing, the support. you can see the flowers just lining this whole block. >> let's bring in marc morial president and ceo of the national urban league. always great to have you. >> i thanks good afternoon. >> looking what the we've seen in this past week in charleston how do you make sense of this? >> you can't make sense of it. it was a lensless hateful, heinous act. but all we can do as people is try hard to rise and, as you see in these pictures come together and fight back against hatred division, intolerance, the kinds of things that give root to the

act of -- yeah acting alone but certainly influenced by the ideology of hate and supremacy. so these were not heroes. nine ordinary american one who happened to be a pastor and a public servant but people who were doing and living their lives in the right way who find themselves the senseless, needless victims of this act of violence. so this is a time and i think it's an extraordinary time when we can and we must come together with purpose and i do think that means that the flag must absolutely go. we have to come together with purpose and there has to be a new resolve to ferret out those who are, if you will part of these hate groups in this ideology of hate who are nothing but domestic terrorists and we have to come together to address the challenges of violence and

poverty in our community and those things that give rise to division. so this is an opportunity that we as a nation have to seize an opportunity because the outpouring is coming. i kneel the nation is unified and united in grief, in mourning, in shock, in disbelief and now we have to be unified to act. >> i'm curious with prard to gun control, marc. much has been made with the fact that dylann roof was able to buy a gun. you heard from jim cavanaugh who said he had a history of drug abuse. he'd been arrested for drugs and that there are laws on the books that would prevent him from buying a gun. he was arrested in february yet in april he was able to buy this gun. do you think ultimately stricter gun control laws would have prevented this? >> alex i like to frame it as gun safety. the idea that the objective of

any limitations on gun use, on the ability to purchase guns, is about safety. and i do think it's time to renew the conversation. so to be precise we need stronger background checks on those who would purchase guns. to be precise we need safe storage legislation, to be precise. we need limitations on ammunition. one can't say as an absolute fact whether, in fact, those types of gun safety laws would have prevented this. at this point it's about preventing future incidents from occurring. future, if you will mass killings. we've had over 08 in the last 40 years in this country. it's unacceptable and time for us to say we want to have a nation of peace not a nation of violence. >> there is that tag line though and i want to get you to respond to it it's become very popular, it's very catchy and

used by those who support individuals' rights to own and bear arms. they say it's not guns that kill people, it's people that kill people. what do you say to that? >> it's people with guns. a gun alone, a person -- it's a person with a gun. it's what i call a convenience logic that's illogical the idea is that common sense tells it is a bern a gun who can carry out this type of suicide. 16,000 homicides per year in the united states. 70%, seven out of ten, take place with a firearm. so we've got to not allow convenient, if you will arguments, arguments of convenience, arguments that defy logic and common sense, to take away from the fact. and i would not say that simply gun safety alone is the absolute

solution to the challenges of violence in this country. there are many things that we of course, need to do. look firearms have been used -- there was, this morning, the killing, it hasn't hit the news, of a law enforcement officer in new orleans who was transporting, if you will, a suspect, so firearms are being used against law enforcement officers. so we need to find if you will a new way forward in this country. and i want to say this. . i also think the people running for president. the united states all the way across the board ought to take a pledge against the rhetoric of hate, the rhetoric of division, the red rick of demagoguery which all too often, pointing the fingers at groups of people in this country. i think people who run for president, for public office

also in this time should elevate the conversation going forward. >> to the point of making this potentially a turning point in race relations? do you think this can happen now? >> we have this opportunity, these opportunities seem to come and they seem to go but i think the idea is can we bring together in a visible way, in a forward-thinking way men and women who are black, hispanic asian, white, native american from all walks of life in this nation, can religious leaders across denominations step up and give the nation the moral backbone that it needs to confront? you don't continue front the challenges of division racial bigotry, religious bigotry, bigotry based on sexual orientation by pretending it doesn't exist. you have to confront it. if you will will acknowledging it and saying that we as a

nation have to get beyond it. so i think it's an important time. you know we're all shocked because this -- we've seen deaths in schools. now deaths violence in a church. what next? what next? we have got to say no we have to move a different direction. >> marc morial thank you very much. >> thank you alex. >> ahead, scientists say we here in the sixth mass extinction event in the history of the earth. what does that mean? details next. audible safety beeping audible safety beeping audible safety beeping the nissan rogue with safety shield technologies. the only thing left to fear is you imagination. nissan. innovation that excites. you show up. you stay up. you listen.

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following rand paul's speech last month. joining me now is corey brooks of the new beginnings church of chicago also the ceo of the project hood nonprofit. i want to read one of your quotes from this gnarl which you said of democrats "how can our neighborhoods be doing so awful and so bad when we're so loyal to this party who's in power? it's a matter of them taking complete advantage of our vote." how specifically reverend do you feel you're being taken advantage of? >> for the last 50 years when you look at our community, wherever there are african-americans, you'll see a decline in our educational system, in the structure of our families, a decline in the economic situation of our families. our communities are at the brisk of chaos and it's the result i believe of democratic policies that have been in place all this time and a result of them taking complete advantage of a neighborhood of a people it's

also because some of our republican friends on the other side have just overlooked and just said hey, they're going to vote democrats no matter what so let's just completely ignore their issues and causes. well, i'm here to say that's not absolutely true. we need a president who is going to listen to all the issues all of the things that are going on in our neighborhood as well. >> i know you've heard from candidate rand paul. tomorrow you're also going to hear from dr. ben carson. do you expect the rest of the gop field to come through? and who do you like best so far? >> well i want to say right now we're expecting governor jeb bush to come to the south side of chicago. we're expecting governor scott walker to come to the south side of chicago. because people need to hear what they're going to do if they're the president of the united states. to be the president means you're not just president of certain groups, but you're president of all of us. on the south side of chicago, all of our needs, concerns issues are just as important. they're the same issues in brooklyn, the same issues in

l.a. we need those issues to be spoken about, to be heard, and we need our voice to be heard. and that it can only be done when those individuals in those positions make up in their mind they're going to come to the south side of chicago. we believe it's really important that they come. and we believe it's really important they hear what we're concerned about. >> reverend brooks what is the most important voting issue for you and your congregants? >> we have so many people who are unemployed and not working. that cannot be an america. people need to work. people need to have jobs. when you don't have that in a community, you're going to have a lot of frustration and a lot of crime. so the issue of our day is to be employed, to have jobs. we want to work. we want to be employed. the people in our community want to work. so we need companies to consider our aeroreas. and the only way that can be done is when we have people leading in positions of

influence to make that possible. the potential is there and we're looking forward to some great things being done when we have the type of leadership we need to help us. >> and what has been the reaction from your coggregants? any resistance from them to say let's bring on the gop perspective? >> there's always going to be resistance when you try to bring about change anywhere. there's resistance in our neighborhood and in my church. but at the end of the day we want our neighborhoods to be better. the only way to do that is create competition. we can no longer continue to allow democrats to believe it's a cake walk. and we can no longer let republicans believe it's not going to happen. being competitive makes the neighborhood better. so we want people to compete for our votes. no longer are they going to be able to just take us for granted. so we're inviting all the republicans as well as democrats to come to the south side of chicago and put the issues on

the table. hear what we have to say and try to make america a better place. >> this will be beginning with dr. ben carson. what time will he be there tomorrow? >> dr. ben carson will be there at 4:00 on the south side of chicago. and we're inviting everybody to come to the south side and see what happens. >> reverend corey brooks, i'm glad you accepted our invitation to be with us. thank you so much. >> thank you. just ahead, the sixth mass extinction the earth has ever seen. that's happening right now. those details next. when heartburn comes creeping up on you... fight back with relief so smooth... ...it's fast.

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