tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC June 26, 2015 6:00pm-7:01pm PDT
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feel it's not budging at all. and you get frustrated you put it down and come back to it. then you hand it to somebody else or you take it back and you give it a turn and it pops off just like that. and so you know you've just got to keep trying. and my dad has been doing that for his whole career. so, thank you, dad. joy reid and josh barro, thank you, both. that is all for this evening. "rachel maddow" starts now. >> that was incredibly sweet, chris. congratulations to your dad. thanks. and thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. this is a news day that is basically impossible to summarize. i will not try. but in terms of what has just happened, just in the last few minutes, the new york state police and new york governor andrew cuomo just gave a public briefing on those prison escapees in upstate new york. the bottom line here is that one of those two escapees was found by police today and then shot and killed by police today. richard matt police say, was armed with a 20-gauge shotgun when they found him, when he was confronted by police in the woods near the town of malone
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new york. so, richard matt the man on the left here he tonight is dead. david sweat, the man on the right, is still on the loose. police say the search for the second man continues tonight. we'll keep you posted as we learn more on that manhunt tonight. but again, the headline here is that one of the two escaped prisoners from dannemora maximum security prison in upstate new york has not just been found, but tonight is dead at the hands of police after they found him armed with a shotgun, they say. this is after 21 days that these two guys have been on the loose. richard matt's fellow escapee, david sweat, still out there tonight, and the manhunt continues. beyond that very dramatic development in that story today, the news in america today was almost too much to absorb. for example, just one point. were you home today between 3:00 and 4:00 p.m. eastern time? it would have been between noon and 1:00 p.m. on the west coast. were you home or were you
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somewhere where you could see a live tv or at least listen on live radio? if you weren't, if you were working today or you were in school or you were running errands or something, if you heard about the eulogy today in charleston for the pastor who was killed last week in his church in the charleston massacre, if you heard that president obama gave that eulogy today or maybe you heard a little piece of it maybe you heard that the president sayng -- and that sounded like a strange thing for the president to done -- maybe you've heard of it or heard a piece of it but you've never sat down and watched what actually happened honestly, you should. you really should. we're going to give you a chance to see it this hour. and honestly it's a little bit strange for us to do this but i'm going to give you a commercial break between now and the time when we start this so you can tell your kids to come in and watch it with you or call your mom or your dad and tell them to watch with you. if you need to take a bathroom break ahead of time you will have time to do that. you need to get something to drink. i will give you a minute beforehand, but that is please
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because i want you to sit down and watch it. just take a time a moment out of time to do it because no other president has ever done something like this. and before this particular president, none could. this was an actual historic thing today, and we frankly, have moved heaven and earth to be able to show it to you tonight uninterrupted, without commercials, because you really should see it. and the fact that this happened on this particular day in the news, in this remarkable time we are having in the news it is almost getting to be too much. i mean think about where we are at right here. a week ago at this time a week ago today, our collective national heart did something between over flowing and breaking in south carolina when the family members of the people who were killed in charleston looked at the accused killer in that case and told them that they forgave him. >> you are representing the family of ethel lance, is that correct? >> yes.
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>> and you are whom, ma'am? >> the daughter. >> the daughter. i'm listening. >> i just wanted everybody to know, to you, i forgive you. you took something very precious away from me. i will never talk to her ever again. i will never be able to hold her again. but i forgive you! and have mercy on your soul. you hurt me. you hurt a lot of people but god forgives you. and i forgive you. >> thank you, ma'am. >> that act of grace on the part of the families in charleston basically brought the family to our knees a week ago today, right? within days the governor of the state of alabama just very quietly, without miss without fuss, told state workers to
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remove the confederate flags that were flying at the alabama state capitol. the confederate flag's also going to come down at the state capitol in south carolina soon, too. in mississippi, it's even the republicans now who are saying that the confederate emblem needs to be taken off the state flag of mississippi. and, no it's not done but the confederate flag issue has all of a sudden just broken this week. it is not done but it will be done. and then catch your breath it was then the seminole issue of the obama presidency. the full force of every domestic political enemy this president has has been brought to bear for years against the signature policy that he achieved as president, the signature policy achievement which has alluded presidents before him for half a century. but yesterday, in a surprise ruling, the supreme court definitively saved and upheld and rayified that law.
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and frankly, there was no obvious reason for the court to take that case unless they were going to use that case to kill the health law, and it was a surprise when the court ruled that yes, the health law is the law of the land and, no it cannot be easily torn down. it will not be torn down now and it will not be torn down by some future president who replaces this one. and again, on this issue, no technically, it is not done forever, because republicans still say they'll do anything they can to kill it. but honestly you know what it's done. this effort to kill the health law at the supreme court ended up making it stronger. the ruling on behalf of the law was definitive. yesterday, speaking realistically, the political efforts to destroy obamacare, to destroy the biggest policy legacy of this presidency those efforts yesterday broke. that was yesterday. catch your breath, and then today. [ cheers and applause ]
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today, one of the most sweeping civil rights rulings in american history, certainly the biggest gay rights ruling ever in american history, a clear and resonant and easy-to-understand blunt declaration by the majority of the court. the limitation of marriage to opposite-sex couples may long have seemed natural and just but its inconsistency with the central meaning of the fundamental right to marry is now manifest. with that knowledge must come the recognition that laws excluding same-sex couples from the marriage right impose stigma and injury of the kind prohibited by our basic charter." especially against a long history of disapproval of their relationships. the denial to same-sex couples of the right to marry works a grave and continuing harm."
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it's all from the ruling. if you want to know the part of this that you will hear at weddings from now until the end of your life if you want to know the part of it that will be written out again and again, as almost calographic practice of what it means to articulate american justice and american progress in your lifetime this is it. this is the part that you will hear over and over and over again for years to come. you can say it with me now. "no union is more profound than marriage. for it embodies the highest ideals of love fidelity, devotion, sacrifice and family. in forming a marital union, two people become something greater than once they were. as some of the petitioners in these cases demonstrate, marriage embodies a love that may endure even past death. it would disavow these men and women to say they disrespect the idea of marriage. they do respect it so deeply that they seek to find fulfillment for themselves. their hope is not to live condemned in loneliness,
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excluded from one of the oldest institutions. they ask for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. the constitution grants them that right." it is so ordered. and that's that. you know in 1993 a trial court in hawaii ruled in favor of same-sex marriage rights. the resulting freak-out about what that court was doing in hawaii caused the congress of the united states to almost immediately pass a federal antigay marriage law in 1996. bill clinton agreed to sign that thing before it had even passed the house. that was 1996. by 1998 31 states had passed either their own law banning gay marriage or a state constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. some states ended up doing both for good measure. in the year 2000 it was vermont that passed civil unions. in 2003 massachusetts's state supreme court ruled in favor of marriage rights. but the resulting backlash to
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vermont and massachusetts, the resulting backlash went so high as the sitting president of the united states saying not just that he'd sign a law but that the u.s. constitution should be changed to block gay people from ever actually enjoying that right. change the constitution of the united states to stop gay people from getting equal rights. inspired by that clarion call to stop the progress of social justice, hoping that a chance to cast an antigay vote might really bring conservative voters out of the woodwork and into the polling places, in the presidential election year of 2004, 11 states passed state constitutional bans on same-sex marriage. two years later in 2006 eight more states passed eight more bans. the history of marginal advances on this issue, advances here and there and different kinds of venues, the history of the advances on this issue around the country, that history has been met by conservatives and republicans with ferocious and often disproportionate backlash
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for decades now. but as hard as they have fought to stop it they have now lost. they have lost definitively and finally. after all these evolving maps that we've tried to keep track of over the years about where you might have rights and where you might not have rights where your marriage might be recognized and where it would be illegal, where your kids have two parents and maybe they only have one parent and a friend. after following these maps after trying to put them together, after trying to track this, after all of the push and pull and achievement and blood-curdling backlash over the years, we can now make it very simple. we can now very easily show the map of where gay people legally have the right to get married in this country, if they want to in the united states just like straight people can, because this is the new map. and it's an easy one to remember. this is the new map that shows where your rights are recognized in this country. it's done. it's everywhere. it is unambiguous.
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and you can see that become true in the wires today. in this incredible cascade of state-by-state news, place-by-place news. the decision came down on the wires at 10:02 a.m. by 10:19, look same-sex couples in texas may soon obtain marriage licenses. by 10:28, gay couples in nebraska will now have their marriages legally recognized in the state that has had one of the most restrictive same-sex union bans in the country. by 10:45, the county clerk in the largest county in arkansas tells the "ap," while choking up "it's a special day. i'm honored to be part of it." and he says his office in pulaski county arkansas, is prepared to issue marriage licenses. that was 10:45. by 10:46, it's montana -- gay couples can now marry in montana. by 10:49, it's michigan, one of the states that fought this to the supreme court. look. michigan governor rick snyder says state agencies will insure that the state fully complies
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with the supreme court ruling. by 10:53, it's north dakota. the supreme court ruling nullifies north dakota's constitutional ban on smaerge marriage. same-sex marriage. five minutes later, ohio cuyahoga county probate court has started issuing marriage licenses to gay couples. three minutes after that it's georgia. atlanta court marries gay couples. by 11:51, it's kentucky. kentucky governor steve beshear has told the state county clerks to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. and then it's south dakota and then it's alabama, and then it's tennessee. and this was today, and it is over. it's over. i mean there are places that are going to go kicking and screaming and say they don't want to. in mississippi, where they're thinking about taking the confederate emblem off of their state flag this week in mississippi, the head of the judiciary committee in that state's legislature said today that maybe mississippi should take a step toward banning all marriage. maybe mississippi should ban marriage for straight people and
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everyone, and maybe that will keep them from going along with this. yeah, good luck, mississippi. this may not be exactly done yet, but it will be done. this is settled. the dam is broken. and yes, a number of 2016 republican presidential candidates say they will defy the supreme court on this! how does that work? maybe they'll move to canada, i don't know. but at the end of one week when it did not seem possible for more change in our country, for another chapter to close, today made history. this was a decades-long fight, but it is over. it's really, clearly over. people who say, oh, this is the first step! no. this is something that's done. it's won, clearly. and the woman who won it is our guest live here tonight, next. stay with us. ♪ i built my business with passion. but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one.
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progress on this journey often comes in small increments. sometimes two steps forward, one step back propelled by the persistent effort of dedicated citizens. and then sometimes there are days like this when that slow steady effort is rewarded with justice that arrives like a thunderbolt. >> today was a momentous decision, and it is going to bring joy to millions of families gay and straight across this land. and now, every person in this country who is lgbt realizes they can marry tomorrow. >> today's thunderbolt courtesy of mary bonauto. she is the attorney who argued
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this marriage case decided today by the supreme court. it was the first time she had ever argued a case at the u.s. supreme court, but it was not the first time she had taken a case all the way or made history with it. the first time any state recognized equal marriage rights, it was also because of mary bonauto and the case she brought to the massachusetts supreme court more than a decade ago. now she's done it nationwide. there are a lot of high-profile people, high-profile lawyers, high-profile activists, high-profile plaintiffs who have been involved in this issue as it has progressed through the courts and progressed through american politics but the alpha and the omega, the architect of this whole strategy really is a knowable person a person named mary bonauto. she started it she plotted its course, and today she finished it. decisive, done nationwide, forever. joining us now for the interview is mary bonauto, who, as i said a moment ago, did it. ms. bonauto, thank you very much for being with us tonight. congratulations. >> thank you, and it is a pleasure.
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>> i am curious to hear not whether or not you expected to win, but whether or not you expected to win this way, whether you thought it would happen the way it did and whether this ruling followed the logic you expected. >> it did, because this ruling is built on both liberty that we get to choose who we're going to marry and make that momentous, you know life decision with and it's also based on equality that gay people same-sex couples have to have the same choices and freedoms and equality as everyone else in the country. and both pieces were there in that decision today, just as they were in marriage decisions starting with the 1960s. >> what was it like to hear it? i mean after all of this much of your life right, having been spent working towards this day. what was it like today in the courtroom hearing it? >> you know right away they sit down and the chief justice announces the case and you can't
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hear it as people were continuing to breathe. and as justice kennedy began to roll out the opinion it was clear that we had a victory. and then you started hearing the sobs and the sniffles. and i was elated. how could you not be knowing how many people had been you know just scarred by this experience in being denied this, you know, this true expression of their love and all the protections that marriage provides? so, i was -- i was thrilled. and i also knew some dissents were coming so i was buckling my seat belt. >> on those dissents i might be wrong, but i think this is the first time chief justice roberts has ever read a dissent from the bench today. >> that's what's been reported. >> and he sort of went out of his way not to be mean right, not to be snarky the way some of the other dissents were -- scalia. but he did say -- he said supporters of same-sex marriage have lost forever the chance to win this by some other means, the chance to win this through legislators or through
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referendum, some other part of the democratic process and not the judiciary. he suggested that in this way, it's a loss even if you like the outcome. how do you respond to that? >> i feel like in this world that i live in people have been deeply engaged in talking to their neighbors and their co-workers and in their faith communities, and you know so much of the public has been engaged. the opinion itself talks about the military, the federal government, all kinds of institutions that have been engaging with these issues for years now. and so frankly, a lot of the country has been talking about this for a very long time. and the supreme court itself has been talking about this for 40 years, you know, dating back to a 1970s case. so, you know, i don't -- in our system, you don't have to convince every single person before the court vindicates your constitutional rights, and that's the role of our courts and the system of checks and balances, is to say when laws draw the wrong line and they play that role as final arbiter, when we are ready for that final
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decision and to make something the law of the land. and today they made marriage equality the law of the land. >> mary bonauto, attorney the strategic architect of this fight that won marriage equality nationwide, the person who argued it in the court. this is just a huge day, i mean for everybody. but obviously, this is a vindication of your life's work. i hope you have an excellent vacation planned. >> thank you kindly. thank you. >> all right. okay. ahead, a historic impassioned eulogy by president obama in charleston today. if you did not get to hear this earlier today, please watch it. do not miss this. trust me. next. ♪♪ expected wait time: 55 minutes. your call is important to us. thank you for your patience. waiter! vo: in the nation, we know how it feels when you aren't treated like a priority. we do things differently. we'll take care of it. vo: we put members first... join the nation. thank you. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪
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okay have you got your mom with you? have you got the kids? this is something important, and we are about to do this without a commercial break, because i really personally believe this is an important thing to see and i want you to see it. today, president obama gave the eulogy for the reverend clementa pinckney, who was killed along with eight of his parishioners inside their church in charleston last week.
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it seemed like the entire city of charleston showed up to try to fill one of the 5,000 seats in the arena where this service was held today. hundreds of people were turned away after the venue reached capacity. but what happened inside at this funeral was remarkable and it culminated in this eulogy which is one of the more remarkable public statements ever uttered by our president, barack obama, and one of the most remarkable public statements by any american president on any subject ever. if you did not watch this today, or even if you did, do me a favor, please watch this. just sit down and watch. >> what a good man. sometimes i think that's the best thing to hope for when you're eulogized.
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after all the words and recitations and resumés are read to just say somebody was a good man. [ applause ] you don't have to be of high station to be a good man. preacher by 13 pastor by 18 public servant by 23. what a life clementa pinckney lived. what an example he set. what a model for his faith. and then to lose him at 41 slain in his sanctuary with eight wonderful members of his
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flock flock, each at different stages in life but bound together by a common commitment to god. cynthia hurd, susie jackson, ethel lance, depayne middleton-doctor middleton-doctor, tywanza sanders, daniel l. simmons, sharonda coleman singleton, myra thompson. good people. decent people. god-fearing people. people so full of life and so
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full of kind nessness, people who ran the race who persevered people of great faith. to the families of the fallen the nation shares in your grief. our pain cuts that much deeper because it happened in a church. the church is and always has been the center of african-american life. [ applause ] a place to call our own in a too often hostile world, a sanctuary from so many hardships. over the course of centuries, black churches served as hush
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harbors, where slaves could worship in safety praise houses where their free descendants could gather and shout "hallelujah!" rest stops for the weary along the underground railroad bunkers for the foot soldiers of the civil rights movement. they have been and continue to be community centers where we organize for jobs and justice, places of scholarship and network, places where children are loved and fed and kept out of harm's way and told that they are beautiful and smart and taught that they matter. [ applause ] that's what happens in church.
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that's what the black church means, our beating heart, the place where our dignity as a people is in and there is no better example of this tradition than mother emanuel, a church -- [ applause ] a church built by blacks seeking liberty, burned to the ground because its founder sought to end slavery, only to rise up again, a phoenix from these ashes. when there were laws banning all black church gatherings services happened here anyway in defiance of unjust laws. when there was a righteous movement to dismantle jim crow dr. martin luther king jr.
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preached from its pulpit and marches began from its steps. a sacred place, this church. not just for blacks not just for christians but for every american who cares about the steady expansion of human rights and human dignity in this country, a foundation sewn for liberty and justice for all. that's what the church meant. [ applause ] >> we do not know whether the
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killer of reverend pinckney and eight others knew all of this history history, but he surely sensed the meaning of his violent act. it was an act that drew on a long history of bombs and arson and shots fired at churches not random but as a means of control, a way to terrorize and oppress. an act that he imagined would incite fear and recrimination, violence and suspicion, an act that he presumed would deepen
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divisions that trace back to our nation's original sin. oh, but god works in mysterious ways. [ cheers and applause ] god has different ideas. he didn't know he was being used by god. blinded by hatred the alleged killer could not see the grace surrounding reverend pinckney and that bible study group, the light of love that shone as they opened the church doors and invited a stranger to join in
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their prayer circle. the alleged killer could have never anticipated the way the families of the fallen would respond when they saw him in court in the midst of unspeakable grief with words of forgiveness! he couldn't imagine that! the alleged killer could not imagine how the city of charleston, under the good and wise leadership of mayor riley, how the state of south carolina how the united states of america would respond, not merely with revulsion at his evil act, but with big-hearted generosity and more importantly, with a
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thoughtfulthought thoughtful introspection and thoughtify examinationful examination that we so rarely see in public life. blinded by hatred he failed to comprehend what reverend pinckney so well understood, the power of god's grace. this whole week i've been reflecting on this idea of grace. the grace of the families who lost loved ones the grace that reverend pinckney would preach about in his sermons, the grace described in one of my favorite
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something we deserve. rather grace is the free and benevolent favor of god. as manifested in the salvation of sinners and the bestowal of blessings blessings, grace. as a nation out of this terrible tragedy, god has visited grace upon us for he has allowed us to see where we've been blind. [ applause ] he's given us the chance where we've been lost to find our best selves. we may not have earned it this
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grace, with our rancor and complacency and short-sightedness and fear of each other but we got it all the same. he gave it to us anyway. he's once more given us grace. but it is up to us now to make the most of it. to receive it with gratitude and to prove ourselves worthy of this gift. for too long we were blind to the pain that the confederate flag stirred in too many of our citizens. [ applause ] it's true a flag did not cause these murders. but as people from all walks of life republicans and democrats,
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now acknowledge, including governor haley, whose recent eloquence on the subject is worthy of praise -- as we all have to acknowledge, the flag has always represented more than just ancestral pride. [ applause ] ♪ >> for many black and white, that flag was a reminder of systemic oppression and racial subjugation. we see that now.
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removing the flag from this state's capitol would not be an act of political correctness, it would not be an insult to the valor of confederate soldiers. it would simply be an acknowledgement that the cause for which they fought the cause of slavery was wrong. [ cheers and applause ] the imposition of jim crow after the civil war, the resistance to civil rights for all people was wrong.
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it would be one step in an honest accounting of america's history, a modest but meaningful balm for so many unhealed wounds. it would be an expression of the amazing changes that have transformed this state and this country for the better because of the work of so many people of goodwill, people of all races striving to form a more perfect union. by taking down that flag we express god's grace. but i don't think god wants us to stop there.
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for too long we've been blind to the way past injustices continue to shape the present. perhaps we see that now. perhaps this tragedy causes us to ask some tough questions about how we can permit so many of our children to languish in poverty or attend dilapidated schools or grow up without prospects for a job or for a career career. perhaps it causes us to examine what we're doing to cause some of our children to hate. perhaps it softens hearts towards those lost young men, tens and tens of thousands caught up in the criminal
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justice system, and lead us to make sure that that system's not infected with bias that we embrace changes in how we train and equip our police so that the bonds of trust between law enforcement and the communities they serve make us all safer and more secure. maybe we now realize the way racial bias can infect us even when we don't realize it so that we're guarding against not just racial slurs, but we're also guarding against the subtle impulse to call johnny back for a job interview but not jamal.
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so that we search our hearts when we consider laws to make it harder for some of our fellow citizens to vote. by recognizing our common humanity by treating every child as important, regardless of the color of their skin or the station into which they were born and to do what's necessary to make opportunity real for every american by doing that we express god's grace.
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for too long -- for too long we've been blind to the unique mayhem that gun inflicts upon this nation. sporadically, our eyes are open. when eight of our brothers and sisters are cut down in a church basement basement, twelve in a movie theater and twenty-six in an elementary school. but i hope we also see the 30 precious lives cut short by gun violence in this country every single day, the countless more whose lives are forever changed, the survivors crippled the children traumatized and fearful
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every day as they walk to school. the husband who will never feel his wife's warm touch. the entire communities whose grief overflows every time they have to watch what happened to them happen to some other place. the vast majority of americans, the majority of gun owners want to do something about this. we see that now. and i'm convinced that by acknowledging the pain and loss of others even as we respect the traditions and ways of life that make up this beloved country, by making the moral choice to change we express god's grace.
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we don't earn grace. we're all sinners. we don't deserve it. but god gives it to us anyway. and we choose how to receive it. it's our decision how to honor it. none of us can or should expect a transformation in grace relations overnight. every time something like this happens, somebody says we have to have a conversation about race. we talk a lot about race. there's no shortcut. we don't need more talk. [ applause ]
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none of us should believe that a handful of gun handful of gun safety measures will prevent every tragedy. it will not. people of good will continue to debate the merits of various policies as our democracy requires. this is a big raucous place, america is. and there are good people on both sides of these debates. whatever solutions we will be incomplete but it would be a betrayal of everything reverend pinckney stood for, i believe, if we allow ourselves to slip in to a comfortable silence again. [ applause ]
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one the eulogies have been delivered, one the tv cameras move on to go back to business as usual. that's what we so often do. to avoid a comfortable truths about the prejudice that still infects our society. to settle for symbolic gestures without following up with the hard work of more lasting change. that's how we lose our way again. it would be a reputation of the forgiveness expressed by those families if we merely slipped in to old habits whereby those who disagree with us are not merely wrong but bad. where we shout instead of listen, where we barricade ourselves behind pre-conceived
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notions or well-practiced cynicism. reverend pinckney once said "across the south we have a deep appreciation of history. we haven't always had a deep appreciation of each other's history squoets history history." what's true in the south is true for america. he understood that justice grows out of recognition. of ourselves and each other. that my liberty depends on you being free too. [ applause ] that history can't be a sword to justify injustice or a shield
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against progress. it must be a manual for how to avoid repeating the mistakes of the past how to break the cycle. a roadway toward a better world. he knew the path of grace involves an open mind. but more importantly an open heart. that's what i felt this week. an open heart. that, more than any particular policy or analysis is what's called upon right now i think. what a friend of mine the writer marilyn robinson calls, that reservoir of goodness beyond and of another kind. that we are able to do each other in the ordinary cause of
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ethel lance found that grace. depayne middleton-doctor nund grace. simmons sr. nund grace. sharonda singleton found that grace. myra thompson found that grace. through the example of their lives they have passed it on to us. may we find ourselves worthy of that precious extraordinary gift as long as our lives endure. may grace now lead them home. may god continue to shed his grace on the united states of america. [ applause ] >> president obama speaking today in charleston south carolina. a you'll rolg for the clementa pinckney but also presidential
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remarks on justice and faith and race, the likes of which we have never seen before. his presidency remembered in part for that. i want to say thank you to msnbc for letting me play that without commercials. you can take it out of my paycheck, okay. not really? i guess. stay tuned for a live update on the one remaining escaped prisoner. that's next here on msnbc. ing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy for my studio. ♪ and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business... that's huge for my bottom line. what's in your wallet? ♪ [music] ♪ defiance is in our bones. new citracal pearls. delicious berries and cream. soft, chewable, calcium plus vitamin d.
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breaking news. new york governor andrew cuomo announced that police shot and killed one of the prison escapees but the second is still on the run. nbc stephanie gosk had the latest. stephanie? >> reporter: well, governor cuomo clarified that confrontation with richard matt earlier today. there was a report of a camper shot at and the state police responded. they called in customs and border tactical team that
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